Erwin Tulfo apologizes to public over Senate drama: We're here not to advance self-interest — ANC

[0:00] We'll talk more about that in a bit, but first, two things happened last night. [0:03] One is that that amendment, all of a sudden, was brought to the floor, right? [0:09] And number two, the amendment itself. [0:12] Please explain to the public why on the first point that that should not have happened already, [0:18] because we were all glued to our TV screens May 11th, Senator, [0:21] and we all saw that that amendment was referred to the Committee on Rules. [0:28] How did it now make its way back to the floor? [0:33] Number one, without the committee being constituted, and number two, without any discussion at all. [0:40] And now you were sort of forced to vote on it yesterday. [0:44] So first point, how did it make its way back to the floor, Senator? [0:51] Exactly our point, Ms. Carmina. [0:54] They were trying to railroad this, because like what you've said, [1:00] they tried to refer to the Committee on Rules last May 11. [1:07] Unfortunately, the Committee on Rules was not formed yet or activated, [1:11] because there was no majority floor leader to head the Committee on Rules. [1:16] So that's why they raised it again yesterday. [1:18] And we were so surprised that suddenly there's a lot of issues going on [1:22] and a lot of bills that we need to tackle. [1:25] Unfortunately, they inserted it yesterday, and they tried to force it, [1:30] like knowing that they have the upper hand, they're the majority. [1:36] There were like 12 of them or 11 of them, while there were only 10 of us yesterday. [1:41] So easily, they will win. [1:43] So they were insisting. [1:45] But then again, Senator Luxon was saying, wait up. [1:49] But the rule says that we have to talk about this. [1:53] There should be discussions, et cetera. [1:55] And so did Senator Risa Ontiveros and Senator Kiko Pangilinan mention all about this. [2:01] But they don't want to listen, particularly to the Senate President. [2:04] The Senate President was saying, like, let us just divide the House [2:07] and let's talk about it after we divide the House. [2:11] But according to our rules, Rule 136, we really have to discuss this first [2:17] because there will be a lot of questions. [2:21] Even myself, I was raising my hands and I was telling Senate Pro Temporee Lauren Legarda [2:29] that I would like to interpolate Senator Marcoleta to ask him, like, [2:34] this justifiable reasons. [2:37] I want them to explain what is this justifiable reason [2:40] that we have to amend this Rule 41, Section B. [2:46] And then why in such a hurry? [2:48] I mean, why today? [2:49] I mean, we're about to adjourn and suddenly you're trying to bring this up on the floor. [2:57] But they don't want to answer it. [2:59] Instead, the answer was like, no, we have to divide the floor [3:01] and we have to make a decision now. [3:03] So that's when we stood up and we definitely did not agree. [3:07] And then our senior members like Senator Soto, Senator Laxon, [3:11] Senator Ami Subiri decided, like, let's go, guys. [3:15] Let's just walk out. [3:16] I mean, we're not going anywhere here. [3:19] Do you think that Senator Joel Villanueva should also answer [3:23] or be held answerable to this? [3:25] Because he was the one as acting chairman of the committee. [3:28] He was the one who brought it back to the floor. [3:31] Kasi ang tanong po dyan, bakit? [3:34] Ano ang naisip? [3:35] Ano ang justification? [3:36] Ano ang rason? [3:38] Kung bakit? [3:38] Sinong kinausap? [3:39] May kinausap ba? [3:41] Sinong miyembro ng komite? [3:42] Eh, wala namang komite. [3:44] Sometimes, this is how it works, Ms. Carmina. [3:48] The Senate, what the President, Senate President wants, [3:52] and he will direct the majority floor leader. [3:55] Siyempre, susunod lang naman yung majority floor leader, [3:58] wala siyang magagawa. [3:59] And that's what the Senate President wants. [4:01] And siguro, we believe, it is upon the instruction of the Senate President [4:04] na pag-usapan ito and then Senator Marcoleta has to raise this up again. [4:10] We were so surprised na they were gone for over an hour and a half. [4:16] They were on a caucus. [4:17] So sabi ko nga, they're probably cooking up something, [4:21] so we better watch out. [4:22] Ayun na nga, they suddenly said like, [4:26] Senate President Cayetano gave us copies. [4:30] Like, oh, we'll be talking about the resolution, [4:33] about the rules, amendment of our rule, [4:37] Section 41 introduced by Senator Marcoleta. [4:40] So we were shocked, like, what? [4:42] Why do we have to do this now? [4:44] We have other urgent matters to talk about. [4:46] But they said like, no, we need this now. [4:49] Whatever it is, though, both sides invoking Rule 136. [4:55] They wanted to talk about it yesterday, [4:58] but with the masterstroke, as some have been calling it, [5:01] I don't know if you've been reading the commentaries, [5:03] but it was a masterful stroke by former Senate President Tito Soto [5:06] when he said that, you know, called for a quorum [5:10] and moved to adjourn, right? [5:12] That was a masterful stroke, according to some. [5:14] Would you say that, you know, you want it yesterday [5:18] because now you just have to deal with it come Monday [5:22] and not yesterday as how they would have wanted, Senator? [5:26] Yeah, because it takes precedence. [5:30] When you question the quorum, no ifs and buts. [5:33] You cannot say point of order, et cetera, file a motion. [5:37] When somebody, a member of the Senate, [5:40] will question and say, like, do we have a quorum? [5:43] And at that very point, when we walked out, [5:46] they don't have the number anymore. [5:49] Even counting Senator Soto, who was still on the floor, [5:52] there were only 12. [5:53] You need at least 13 to have a quorum, Ms. Carmina. [5:57] So, well, it is also our strategy to stop them from making that voting [6:03] because we will really be outnumbered, Ms. Carmina. [6:07] So, Senator, before we leave this, because we're only on point number one, [6:13] which is how the amendment made its way back to the floor, [6:18] pero ito po ang tanong, ano pong aasahan ng taong bayan sa Senado [6:21] kung mismong proseso pa lang ninyo ay tila hindi sinusunod? [6:29] It's, well, kaya nga I would like to take this opportunity now, Ms. Carmina, [6:33] to apologize on behalf of the Minority 11, our group, [6:39] to the public that has been going on for several days now. [6:45] We haven't done anything. [6:47] We haven't been productive in the Senate under this new leadership [6:51] because we keep on talking. [6:53] Instead of prioritizing bills and laws that will benefit the interest [6:58] or it will benefit the public, [7:01] we're only talking about the interest of the few of us, [7:05] few members, like Senator Batto, [7:07] na was it lawful ba na to chase him in the corridors, [7:13] in our corridors? [7:15] There was nothing wrong, and they said there was nothing wrong, [7:17] na he left the Senate, he ran away or escaped, whatever it is. [7:21] Na, no, there was no exchange, [7:23] no, there was really indeed exchange of gunfire. [7:26] We were talking all these issues, Ms. Carmina, [7:31] and it doesn't concern the public. [7:33] I mean, we are here, our job is to craft laws [7:37] that will benefit the entire nation, [7:39] not to benefit the few, the privileged, [7:44] I mean, the members of the Senate. [7:46] We are not here, we were not voted by the public [7:49] to work on our own interests or our family, [7:55] our businesses, our political parties, our group. [8:00] Rather, we were voted here, elected, [8:02] maybe they have forgotten some of our colleagues [8:04] that we were voted by the people [8:07] to help them resolve issues, [8:10] to help them with the national problem, [8:12] not with internal problems, [8:15] problems of some senators. [8:16] That's not what we are here for, Ms. Carmina. [8:19] Which brings me to my next question. [8:21] How does this amendment benefit the people? [8:24] I mean, Senator, you look out into the streets, right? [8:29] There's thousands of people trying to make their way to work [8:33] every single day with a broken transport system. [8:36] You have young students somehow already risking their lives [8:41] just to get to school in some remote areas. [8:45] And then you have this amendment allowing senators [8:48] to be present when they're actually absent [8:51] and actually vote and participate. [8:53] How does that make sense? [8:55] How is that worth the people's money, Senator? [8:59] I can describe it only, Ms. Carmina's nakakahiya. [9:02] I mean, our salaries, [9:06] $300,000 plus allowances, etc., etc. [9:12] These are the money of the people. [9:14] These are coming from the taxes. [9:17] Yet, we're like privileged. [9:19] Like, nakakahiya, di ba? [9:21] You don't go to work, but you pay us. [9:24] You, the taxpayers, pay us. [9:26] They have to grind. [9:28] They have to go to work every single day, [9:31] come hail or storm, etc. [9:32] or typhoon flood. [9:34] They must report for work, [9:35] otherwise they won't get paid. [9:37] While us, [9:39] is it because we're senators? [9:41] We don't need to attend the session [9:44] and go to work? [9:46] Paano po yung our bosses? [9:50] The people are our bosses. [9:52] The masa, everybody, [9:54] the street sweeper, the janitor, the guards, [9:57] everybody are our boss [9:59] because they elected us. [10:00] Our powers emanate from the public. [10:04] So we have to respect that. [10:05] Kung yung amo namin, [10:07] the people is our amo, [10:09] nagtatrabaho, [10:11] paano naman yung mga, [10:13] kaming mga utusan, [10:14] nakaupo lang, [10:16] at pasarap-sarap, [10:17] mag-i-internet lang, [10:19] magte-teleconferencing, [10:20] samantali yung amo namin, [10:22] kailangan tama ka, [10:23] magtiis sa traffic, [10:25] pumunta sa factory na mainit, [10:27] magtatrabaho, [10:28] yung construction worker, [10:29] napaka-init ngayon ng panahon, [10:31] pumupukpuk doon. [10:33] These are the people paying our salaries, [10:35] Ms. Carmina. [10:36] And yet, for us, [10:38] in the comforts of our home, [10:40] air-conditioned, [10:42] we don't need to go to the Senate [10:44] for session [10:45] kasi pwede ang teleconferencing, [10:48] video conferencing. [10:49] Why? [10:50] Kaya nga, [10:50] we objected, [10:51] Ms. Carmina, [10:53] nakakahiya. [10:54] And besides, [10:55] you pointed out that rule, [10:57] you already have a rule, [10:58] allowing for teleconferencing, [11:01] right, [11:01] if there's force majeure. [11:04] Katulad nyo nangyari sa pandemia, [11:05] kayo po'y tumayo kagabi, [11:07] at pinunto nyo na, [11:09] meron naman kayong rule na ganun. [11:11] Bakit kinakailangan pa [11:12] na magkaroon ng iba pang [11:15] justifiable reason [11:17] para makapag-participate [11:20] sa isang proceeding, [11:22] na wala naman dyan, [11:24] na off-site, [11:26] Senator. [11:27] That's what I was asking them [11:29] yesterday, [11:29] Ms. Carmina, [11:31] and then they were saying [11:32] the Senate President, [11:33] Kayatano, [11:34] said I'm out of order [11:36] by asking questions, [11:39] just real talk, [11:40] Ms. Carmina. [11:42] I mean, [11:43] so, [11:43] how will I ask them? [11:46] I mean, [11:47] I'm just asking [11:48] what the people wants to know [11:49] because everybody, [11:51] I've been already seeing, [11:52] in my messenger, [11:54] pakitanong Sen, [11:56] kung bakit nila minamadali. [11:58] That was the people [11:59] asking me to ask them [12:01] on the floor. [12:02] Para ako na sa radio [12:03] kahapon broadcast, [12:05] yung listeners ko [12:06] are texting me, [12:08] pakitanong bakit siya [12:09] nagmamadali, [12:10] pakitanong ano po itong [12:11] justifiable. [12:13] So, [12:13] I am just relaying [12:14] what the people are asking me. [12:16] So, [12:17] I'm asking them. [12:18] Unfortunately, [12:19] they cannot answer that. [12:20] They're telling us, [12:21] no, [12:21] let's divide the house, [12:23] et cetera, [12:23] et cetera. [12:24] Kaya tinagalog ko na, [12:26] ano po ba, [12:26] bakit po ba [12:28] tayo nagmamadali? [12:29] Dahil ba may huhulihin [12:30] ilan sa atin [12:32] over the weekend? [12:33] Is it the reason? [12:34] May sumisigaw na po na, [12:36] out of order po ako. [12:38] Eh, [12:38] nagtatanong lang po ako [12:39] yung gustong itanong [12:40] ng taong bayan. [12:41] My question, [12:43] my question sa Carmina, [12:45] are the same questions [12:47] in English ko lang [12:48] sa messenger ko [12:49] and it's all in here [12:50] in my messenger, [12:51] Ms. Carmina, [12:52] since yesterday. [12:53] They were asking me. [12:54] I don't know if you [12:55] were able to hear it [12:56] though because [12:57] it all happened [12:58] at all at the same time. [13:00] I think when after, [13:01] soon after you [13:02] walked out, [13:03] if I'm not mistaken, [13:05] Senate President [13:05] Alan Peter Cayetano [13:06] took to the floor [13:08] and [13:09] he was still trying [13:11] to say that, [13:12] you know, [13:13] things should be put [13:14] on vote, [13:14] but, [13:15] and this is the word [13:15] that he used, [13:17] the minority [13:18] scampered, [13:19] scampered their way [13:20] out of the floor. [13:21] na tila bagang [13:23] pinapakita [13:24] or ang gustong [13:24] ipahewatik [13:25] ng Senate President [13:27] ay kayong mga weakling [13:28] because I don't, [13:30] you know, [13:30] you only use that word [13:31] in a very derogatory manner. [13:33] So what do you say [13:34] to that, Senator? [13:36] He can use all the words [13:38] he can to describe [13:40] what we did. [13:41] Scampered, [13:42] run away, [13:43] hide, [13:44] etc. [13:45] And there's a reason [13:46] why we left, [13:48] we, [13:48] our walked out [13:49] because [13:50] we cannot accept [13:52] them [13:54] trying to [13:55] really [13:56] include [13:58] and change [13:59] our rule [14:00] yesterday [14:01] and force us [14:02] to make [14:03] a, [14:04] to, [14:04] to, [14:04] to vote. [14:07] Eh, [14:07] alam nilang [14:07] outnumbered kami. [14:09] So they, [14:09] they, [14:10] they took [14:11] that opportunity [14:12] while there's [14:13] this only [14:13] 10 of us [14:15] yesterday [14:15] and there was [14:16] like 11 [14:17] or 12 of them. [14:18] So they were like, [14:19] let's go, [14:20] let's, [14:20] let's vote on this, [14:21] etc. [14:22] So we just [14:23] walked out [14:24] kasi wala eh, [14:25] wala nang silbi. [14:26] And then, [14:28] Ms. Camina, [14:30] when I was asked by the media, [14:31] I said, [14:31] naglulukohan nilang kami. [14:33] Binobola namin yung taong bayan. [14:36] Ang purpose [14:36] nang talaga nito, [14:37] and this is clear [14:38] and I will say it again. [14:40] I said it yesterday [14:41] and I will say it again. [14:44] Niluloko po natin [14:45] ang taong bayan. [14:47] Alright. [14:47] Right. [14:48] Ginagawa ho natin [14:49] itong batas na ito, [14:50] babaguy ng rules [14:51] to accommodate [14:52] per probably [14:55] Senator Bato [14:56] and the two other senators [14:57] who will be [14:58] arrested this weekend [14:59] according [15:00] to [15:01] Ombudsman Rimulya [15:03] or arrested soon [15:04] para sa kanila [15:06] naman po ito eh. [15:07] Kasi it will not [15:08] benefit the public. [15:09] It will not benefit you. [15:10] It will not benefit [15:11] my mom, [15:12] my family, [15:12] my children. [15:13] It will just benefit [15:14] the few [15:15] of us. [15:16] Ms. Camina. [15:17] Senator, [15:18] with the way [15:19] the minority [15:21] has been [15:22] standing [15:23] their ground [15:24] lately, [15:25] we all saw it [15:26] a couple of days back, [15:27] right, [15:27] when you called [15:28] the attention [15:29] of Senator [15:29] Jaime Marcos [15:30] that he was, [15:31] that she was [15:31] eventually forced [15:32] to withdraw [15:33] her presentation [15:34] and then [15:35] what happened [15:36] yesterday. [15:37] Do you still [15:38] seek a change [15:38] in leadership [15:39] given that [15:40] you're a force [15:41] to be reckoned with [15:42] now, [15:42] even if you're [15:43] in the minority? [15:45] You may not [15:46] have the numbers [15:47] but the fact [15:49] that you're [15:49] standing your [15:50] ground [15:50] and you're [15:50] able to [15:51] sway things [15:52] in this [15:54] manner [15:55] and you have [15:57] an impact [15:58] now on how [15:58] things are [15:59] being done [15:59] at the Senate, [16:00] would you still [16:01] want that, [16:02] a change [16:02] in leadership? [16:04] Well, [16:05] it depends po [16:05] doon sa mga kasama [16:06] namin [16:06] on the other [16:07] side, [16:08] the members [16:08] of the majority. [16:10] I hope [16:12] and I [16:12] fervently [16:13] pray [16:14] that what [16:15] happened [16:15] yesterday, [16:16] to probably [16:23] think again [16:24] on their [16:25] stand [16:26] where they [16:26] stand. [16:27] If they [16:27] really [16:28] believe in [16:29] democracy, [16:30] if they [16:30] really [16:31] believe in [16:32] integrity [16:32] of the [16:33] Senate, [16:34] if they [16:34] really [16:35] love [16:35] to work [16:37] for the [16:38] people, [16:39] then I [16:39] guess they [16:40] should leave [16:40] that group [16:41] and join [16:41] us. [16:42] We don't [16:43] have the [16:43] power to [16:44] force [16:44] them, [16:45] it's up [16:46] to them. [16:46] So maybe [16:47] three, [16:48] four of [16:48] them there [16:49] should start [16:50] thinking or [16:50] should have [16:51] thought last [16:52] night, [16:52] thought it [16:52] over, [16:53] am I in [16:54] the right [16:54] place? [16:56] Am I [16:56] doing the [16:57] right thing? [16:58] Because forcing [16:59] a revision [17:01] of our [17:01] rules in [17:03] the Senate [17:04] that is [17:06] not for [17:08] the benefit [17:09] of the [17:09] public, [17:11] then there's [17:11] something wrong, [17:12] that it will [17:12] only benefit [17:13] the few [17:14] of us. [17:15] The other [17:16] problem here, [17:17] Ms. Carmina, [17:19] if we [17:19] allow that, [17:21] granting [17:21] it passed, [17:24] we accepted [17:25] that rule, [17:27] what about [17:28] those [17:28] colleagues [17:30] of ours [17:31] who will [17:32] one day [17:32] be arrested? [17:35] And the [17:35] rule, [17:35] and I'm [17:36] very sure [17:37] 100% [17:38] that the [17:40] BGMP, [17:41] the new [17:42] believed [17:42] prisons, [17:44] do not [17:44] allow [17:45] PDLs [17:46] to have [17:47] cellular [17:47] phones, [17:49] video cameras, [17:50] go in [17:51] the [17:51] internet, [17:52] they are [17:52] not [17:52] allowed. [17:53] So, [17:54] to accommodate [17:55] the [17:55] senators [17:56] so that [17:57] they can [17:58] go live, [17:59] they have [17:59] to change [18:00] their rules [18:00] also. [18:01] Paano [18:02] naman po [18:02] yung [18:02] ordinary [18:03] na hindi [18:03] senador? [18:05] So, [18:06] sila hindi [18:06] sila [18:06] pwedeng [18:07] gumamit [18:07] mag-online [18:08] kasi [18:09] hindi sila [18:10] senador eh, [18:11] di ba? [18:11] Eh, [18:11] senador ka eh, [18:12] di ba? [18:14] Just, [18:14] just, [18:15] just, [18:16] ika nga, [18:16] I'll give [18:17] you that, [18:18] let's just [18:19] talk about it [18:20] for the sake [18:21] of discussion. [18:22] So, [18:22] because you're [18:23] senator, [18:23] because it's [18:24] in our rules [18:25] in the senate [18:25] that you're [18:26] allowed [18:27] to attend [18:28] session, [18:29] you can [18:29] go on [18:30] through [18:31] video [18:31] conferencing, [18:32] teleconferencing, [18:33] through the [18:34] internet. [18:35] What about [18:35] the hundreds [18:36] and thousands [18:37] of other [18:38] PDLs [18:38] languishing [18:40] at the [18:41] BGMP, [18:42] at the [18:42] newly [18:42] believed [18:43] prison [18:43] throughout the [18:43] country? [18:44] They are [18:45] not allowed [18:45] to use [18:46] cellular [18:46] phones. [18:47] They are [18:48] not allowed [18:48] to use [18:49] internet. [18:51] What about [18:51] them? [18:52] So, [18:53] because senator [18:53] ka, [18:54] you're special [18:54] because that's [18:56] the rule [18:56] of the [18:56] senate? [18:57] Oh, [18:57] no, [18:58] I don't [18:58] think so, [18:59] Ms. [18:59] Carmina. [19:00] And here's [19:00] another thing, [19:01] will it [19:01] actually stand [19:02] the test [19:03] of time? [19:04] Alam naman [19:04] natin, [19:05] nabilog ang [19:05] mundo sa [19:06] politika. [19:07] What if [19:08] they find [19:08] themselves [19:09] at the [19:10] opposite side [19:11] of the [19:11] spectrum [19:12] later on? [19:13] Will they [19:13] then [19:14] change the [19:15] rules [19:15] in their [19:15] favor [19:16] once again? [19:18] Parang [19:18] ganun yung [19:19] nangyayari, [19:20] senator. [19:21] Go ahead. [19:22] I don't know, [19:22] I cannot answer [19:23] that anymore, [19:24] Ms. [19:24] Carmina, [19:25] but what I'm [19:25] trying to [19:26] point at [19:26] is, [19:27] fair is [19:28] fair. [19:28] Okay? [19:30] Sige, [19:30] ilusot natin. [19:32] Paano pag [19:33] nilusot natin [19:34] itong rules [19:34] na ito [19:35] ngayon [19:35] sa senate? [19:37] Dahil [19:38] senador ako, [19:39] kailangan [19:39] ko mag-attend [19:40] ng [19:40] sesyon. [19:41] So, [19:41] kailangan [19:42] kong [19:43] excuse [19:44] ako, [19:45] payagan [19:46] ako [19:46] na makapag [19:47] video [19:48] conferencing [19:49] dahil [19:50] kailangan [19:50] ko mag-attend [19:51] ng [19:51] sesyon. [19:53] Well, [19:53] what about [19:54] the hundreds [19:54] or the [19:55] thousands [19:55] of other [19:56] PDLs [19:56] around the [19:57] country? [19:58] They are [19:58] not allowed [19:59] to even [20:00] have a [20:00] phone call [20:01] or cellular [20:02] phone in [20:03] their hand. [20:04] They are [20:04] not allowed [20:04] to have [20:05] access to [20:06] internet. [20:08] So, [20:08] sila [20:08] hindi [20:08] pwede. [20:10] Yung [20:10] mga [20:10] matataas [20:11] na [20:11] opisyal [20:11] pwede. [20:12] Mga [20:12] senador [20:13] po pwede [20:13] pag [20:14] nakulong. [20:15] Ganun [20:15] ho ba? [20:17] Dapat [20:17] fair is [20:18] fair, [20:18] Ms. [20:18] Carmina. [20:19] Fair is [20:19] fair. [20:20] I'm [20:20] sorry. [20:21] Come [20:21] Monday, [20:22] this is [20:23] going to [20:23] be brought [20:23] again to [20:24] the floor. [20:24] You are [20:25] going to [20:25] discuss [20:26] this once [20:26] again. [20:27] You said [20:27] that you [20:28] met [20:28] after what [20:29] happened [20:29] last night [20:30] transpired [20:31] with the [20:32] rest of [20:32] the members [20:32] of the [20:33] minority. [20:34] What [20:34] can the [20:35] public [20:35] expect [20:35] from the [20:36] minority [20:36] come [20:37] Monday? [20:37] Senator [20:37] We're [20:39] outnumbered, [20:40] Ms. [20:40] Carmina, [20:42] but we [20:43] will really [20:43] put a good [20:43] fight. [20:44] We will [20:45] continue to [20:45] object, [20:47] but first [20:47] we have to [20:48] ask them, [20:49] lay down, [20:50] tell us [20:50] the truth. [20:51] Why are [20:51] you in a [20:52] hurry? [20:52] We have a [20:53] lot of [20:54] bills to [20:55] talk about, [20:56] laws that [20:56] are already [20:57] ripe, [20:58] bills that [20:59] are already [21:00] for sponsorship. [21:02] How come [21:02] we prioritize [21:03] this rule [21:06] in our [21:07] rules, [21:08] section [21:08] 41, [21:09] to allow [21:10] senators, [21:11] etc., [21:12] video [21:12] conferencing, [21:13] attending a [21:13] session to [21:14] video conference, [21:15] rather than [21:16] talk about [21:17] important, [21:19] pertinent [21:19] laws, [21:21] or [21:22] the [21:26] laws, [21:28] but why [21:29] do we have [21:29] to talk [21:30] about this? [21:31] So, [21:31] what is so [21:31] important? [21:32] That's what [21:32] we're going [21:33] to ask them [21:33] again on [21:33] Monday. [21:34] Now, [21:34] okay, [21:35] tell us, [21:36] what is it? [21:37] What's so [21:38] important? [21:39] Why it is [21:39] very important [21:41] to tackle [21:41] it now? [21:42] Will it [21:43] benefit? [21:43] That's another [21:44] question, [21:45] and I hope [21:45] they're hearing [21:46] me so that [21:46] they can [21:47] prepare on [21:47] Monday when [21:48] I ask that [21:49] question. [21:49] Will this [21:50] benefit the [21:51] ordinary [21:52] Juan and [21:53] Maria? [21:54] Will it [21:54] benefit the [21:55] students who [21:56] go to [21:57] school, [21:58] who will [21:58] go to [21:58] school, [22:00] the walk, [22:00] like what [22:01] you said, [22:02] walk for [22:02] miles and [22:03] miles to [22:04] get to [22:04] school? [22:04] Will it [22:05] benefit them? [22:06] Will it [22:07] benefit the [22:07] elderly, [22:08] the senior [22:09] citizens, [22:10] those who [22:10] do not [22:11] have money [22:11] to buy [22:12] maintenance [22:13] medicines, [22:14] will it [22:15] benefit them? [22:17] If not, [22:17] then why [22:18] are we [22:19] forcing this [22:19] and why [22:20] are we [22:20] prioritizing [22:22] this issue? [22:25] Ms. [22:25] Carmina, [22:25] we have [22:26] wasted so [22:27] many days [22:28] since they [22:29] took over [22:30] the leadership, [22:31] we haven't [22:31] talked anything [22:32] about laws, [22:34] bills, [22:35] except [22:36] Bato [22:39] de la [22:39] Rosa, [22:41] if it was [22:41] legitimate or [22:43] illegitimate, [22:44] he walked [22:44] away, [22:45] etc. [22:46] We talk about [22:47] ICC, [22:48] we talk about, [22:49] well, there was [22:50] one, in fairness [22:51] naman. [22:52] I think last [22:53] week, we [22:53] talked about [22:54] that bill of [22:56] the Senator [22:57] Salt [22:58] Ontiveros [23:00] about [23:00] anti-detention [23:03] bill for [23:04] those patients [23:05] who do not [23:06] have money, [23:08] they're not [23:08] supposed to be [23:09] detained in the [23:12] hospitals until [23:12] they come up [23:13] for payment. [23:15] That's the [23:16] bill. [23:16] But other [23:17] than that, [23:18] there's no more, [23:18] we haven't [23:19] tackled anything, [23:20] except for Bato. [23:21] It just goes [23:22] around and [23:22] around about [23:24] legitimate [23:25] encounter, etc., [23:27] what happened [23:28] last week. [23:29] It just went [23:30] around these [23:31] issues. [23:32] All right, [23:32] but I guess [23:33] we're going to [23:33] have to wait [23:34] till Monday [23:34] to see the [23:35] continuation of [23:37] what everyone [23:37] is calling now, [23:38] and I know [23:39] it's not a good [23:40] title, but [23:40] everyone's calling [23:41] it the Senate [23:42] Serie. [23:43] I guess we [23:44] just have to [23:44] wait till the [23:45] next episode [23:46] drops come [23:47] Monday. [23:48] Senator Irwin [23:49] Tulfo there [23:49] joining us [23:50] today. [23:50] Thanks for [23:51] your time, [23:51] Senator. [23:53] Thank you, [23:53] Ms. [23:53] Karamina.