Democratic Socialists of America EXPOSED in CRAZY Fox News Interview! Robby Soave — RISING

[0:04] When they tell you who they are, you believe them. The Democratic Socialists of America [0:09] are doing just that, telling us exactly who they are and what they believe in. [0:14] They believe in full-on communism, the mass confiscation of your hard-earned money [0:19] in order to fund their radical vision for society. Sadly, it's beginning to feel inevitable [0:24] that the Democratic Party will succumb to socialism's deadly influences. I hate to see it. [0:30] San Piker just gave a speech at a gathering of the National College Democrat Organization, [0:35] which is affiliated with the DNC. By the way, he looked the part of communist dictator. [0:40] Insane wardrobe choices, but I digress. Representative Steve Cohen, an extremely [0:44] progressive Dem, says he quit the Congressional Progressive Caucus because most of their leaders [0:49] are socialists. He's admitting it. Meanwhile, James Carville said recently he doesn't think [0:54] AOC could possibly get the Dem nomination for president in 2028. And I think that might be [0:59] true, but only because she isn't far-left enough for these people. And who are these people? Well, [1:05] let's take a closer look. How about starting with this deeply insightful interview on Fox News? [1:09] Kudos to Martha McCallum for doing it with Gustavo Gordillo, who co-chairs the New York City DSA. [1:16] Gordillo's family, by the way, came to the US after escaping Peru during the Terror of the Shining Path, [1:21] a far-left Marxist, Leninist, and Maoist terrorist group known for its excessive violence and brutality. [1:27] One would hope that having had families survive and flee from leftist violence would make you [1:32] opposed to exporting it, bringing it into your new country. But alas, Gordillo's different. In fact, [1:37] he blames capitalism rather than the left. The economic situation in South America and in Peru [1:44] was in a really bad place. But I think that much of what we could say is responsible for that actually [1:52] was, um, the imposition of capitalism and, um, American imperialism in many cases is actually [2:01] what brings, uh, immigrants, um, to the US outside, uh, coming out of Latin America. And... [2:08] So they come here because they don't like the imposition of American imperialism in the country [2:12] that they're in? McCallum points out that makes absolutely no sense. Now, thankfully, [2:17] it's not the case that all or even most immigrants want to bring socialism to our shores, maybe Nile [2:23] notwithstanding. But the exceptions, like Gordillo, are certainly responsible for negative perceptions [2:28] about the impacts of changing demographics. Gordillo's contempt for private property and private [2:33] business is so thorough. He goes on to say he hopes government-run grocery stores do put mom-and-pop [2:39] shops out of business. Listen to this. Inspiration's great, but if you're the bodega owner, how would you [2:44] feel if the government opened a big grocery store right next to your bodega? How would you feel? [2:51] If one publicly owned grocery store that brings prices down in the neighborhood is enough to put [2:56] someone out of business, then maybe they shouldn't have been in that business in the first place. [3:01] Ah, interesting indeed, because that really is socialism for you. You have no right to earn a living. The [3:07] government can swoop in, use its monopoly power to undercut you and drive you out of business, [3:10] and then what? We're all dependent on the government? Now look, yeah, sure, if the government-run store [3:15] could really keep us all fed more efficiently than the private market, we'd say, well, there's really [3:19] no problem with that. Oh well. Of course, we know that is not the case since no government-run enterprise [3:25] can actually beat the market in terms of price choice and availability. What actually happens is the [3:29] government loses money and thus requires more and more of your tax dollars to operate its services. [3:34] Just look at education in New York City, the way the government spends more money dollar for dollar [3:38] failing to educate your kids compared with the private sector. Is that what we want for groceries, [3:42] too? Or how about housing? The Democratic Socials of America had this to say. [3:46] The landlords in New York have been making a 12% return on their investment for, on average- [3:52] How much should they make? What's fair for the landlord to make if you don't like 12? [3:56] They're complaining that 12 is not enough, and we don't think that anyone should have a [4:01] constitutional right to double-digit returns on their investment. That's why we've implemented- [4:06] No one should have a right to a double-digit return on their investment. [4:09] No one has a right. That's not- [4:11] What are you talking about? No one's in the- [4:12] That's not in the Constitution, but we- [4:14] What we see is that when we implement a rent freeze, [4:16] we have landlords who are crying, uh, that the government is going to put them out of business. [4:22] Well, they're trying to run a business, and, um, they're trying to do it effectively. [4:25] Now, notice the sleight of hand that occurred there. Gordillo asserts, no one has a constitutional [4:32] right to a 12% return on investment, which is correct. No one has a constitutional right to [4:36] any return on any investment. Rights do not enter into that. Your return on investment [4:41] is whatever the market delivers for you. You can do better, you can do worse. It's on you. [4:46] But that's not what he's proposing here. He's proposing through Socialist Mayor Zoran [4:49] Mamdani's rent freeze policies, that the government forbid you from collecting a sizable, to him, [4:55] return on your investment. He is saying the government should decide what's the right [4:58] amount of money for you to make when you rent out your property. And in a nutshell, [5:03] this policy, actually more than anything else he said here in this interview, is the perfect [5:07] encapsulation of why Socialism is a failed ideology that does lead to ruin in every single society [5:13] where it's ever tried. In economic terms, it's unscientific. It's the flat earth theory of economic [5:18] growth. One of the main insights we have in the science of economics is that prices are important [5:24] signaling mechanisms for markets to function properly. When the government messes with the [5:30] price system by using legal force to fix prices artificially high or artificially low, then you get [5:36] chaos. For instance, landlords might decide that 11% growth isn't enough to sustain themselves, [5:41] so then maybe they sell, get out of the housing business entirely. Maybe they decide they get a better [5:46] return by turning it into a parking lot, leveling the building. Suddenly, we have less housing, [5:52] which was the exact opposite of the outcome the government wanted when they implemented the rent [5:56] freeze. That's why you don't mess with prices. You send bad signals like that making more housing [6:02] available is a bad investment, and thus something not to pursue in the marketplace, at a time when [6:07] the number one thing we need in this country is more housing. I mean, it's not exactly rocket science [6:12] what we need to do here. Just get the government out of the way, cut the rules and regulations, [6:17] particularly environmental and labor ones, that make it hard to build more housing and undercut [6:21] supposedly greedy landlords that way. Not by mandating that they stop being greedy, but by [6:26] subjecting them to increased competition in the marketplace. Which, by the way, is the only way [6:31] that anything ever gets less expensive overall and in the long term. More competition. But that's not [6:37] the socialist way. The socialist way is to put that guy, the guy with the ponytail and the mustache, [6:42] in charge of running your life and everyone else's. And what could ever go wrong with that? [6:47] He seemed to have a particular objection to his mustache and indeed the ponytail. [6:51] I don't like mustaches. The ponytail's fine. I'm not a huge fan of mustaches myself. Anyway, [6:56] look, there are elements of that that I do agree with, but bigger elements of it that I disagree with. [7:03] First of all, to the point before we jump past it about his family coming from Peru and the argument he [7:09] made there. It seemed to me that Martha McCallum was being slightly obtuse in how she was seeking [7:16] to understand that. His argument isn't, we hated America, therefore I came to America. His argument [7:24] is, American foreign policy in Latin America and elsewhere led to the instability from which people [7:31] had to flee. That seems actually quite a valid argument because it is often, I think, short-sighted [7:38] whenever people in the United States, by which I mean the sort of government complex in the United [7:42] States, will argue or complain about the rise of Fidel Castro and not their support for the Batista [7:50] regime that preceded it, or complain about the Sandinistas in Nicaragua and not American support [7:56] for the dictator Somoza who preceded them. There is a valid argument to be made about those policies and the [8:02] way they fuel instability. Now, as to the bigger argument about kind of price, price controls is [8:10] the element that I do somewhat more take your point on. I mean, I think the number of Americans who really [8:18] believe in a central command economy in that classic Marxist sense is infinitesimally small. I think the [8:26] reason that DSA and the harder left generally is rising isn't anything to do with that. It's to do with [8:34] a feeling that corporate power runs too untrammeled, that life is more difficult than it should be for [8:43] working people, that it has become more difficult than it previously was. I mean, speaking of housing, [8:50] for example, the median house price is now something like five times the median household income. That, [9:01] as recently as the 1990s, was about three times the median household income. We could go through a whole [9:06] range of issues, whether it's the cost of university, cost of healthcare, etc., where those kind of [9:13] dynamics apply. And people, I think, want that pendulum to be pushed back somewhat. [9:19] Right. But the people they're electing are, you know, I don't think I'm caricaturing them. I mean, [9:25] you hear what he has to say. It's him and the kind of people who are winning office are rather [9:29] doctrinaire Marxists, it seems to me. And that worries me greatly because of, yes, the not just, [9:37] you know, they do this bait and switch where their supporters will say, [9:41] oh, what, you're saying it's socialism to have, like, a slightly larger welfare state or slightly [9:46] more social spending. Like, okay, obviously, no, it's not. But it is socialism to do. We would [9:51] prefer a Soviet or a Maoist model where a central committee decides the price of everything, which [9:57] is an experiment that has done before and doesn't really work. And it's, and also it does lead to a [10:03] backlash against immigration when it appears to be, when it appears to Americans that the people who [10:07] want to do that are foreign born. Now, I often, I try to push back on that often because you have [10:13] plenty of foreign born people who are enemies of socialism, and you have plenty people who've [10:19] lived here their whole lot or, you know, can trace descent to the Mayflower who've become enamored [10:24] with it. So it's not really like that. In terms of the, obviously, I disagree with aspects of American [10:30] policy that have led to the destabilization of Latin America or overthrowing governments. [10:35] I think they, the left sometimes does this sleight of hand that when they're condemned, you know, [10:40] U.S. imperialism and capitalism did this to it. Well, U.S. imperialism, I guess I see why you would [10:46] use that term. But like, this is getting rather maybe academic, but capitalism, I would push back [10:52] when the left says it. Like, capitalism does not mandate you going to war and over, like, capitalists [10:59] tend to not like when nations go to war because it's, it's bad for business, right? The capitalists [11:05] want you to want to, you know, buy bananas from the foreign place and, or whatever, you know, [11:14] exchange of goods. Maybe sometimes they want a different regime because the regime in power, [11:21] you know, doesn't want to do any of that. But it's not, it's not really that they're trying to do. [11:24] It's like mercantilism, like the economic philosophy that led to like the colonization of America [11:31] is pre-capitalist. It's, it's, it's about enriching the coffers of the King of England [11:37] and the King of Spain, like with gold. Like that's not really, that's, it's actually not [11:42] a capitalist economy. Well, I mean, it depends exactly how you define capitalism. But I think [11:46] the counter argument would be that in some of those nations in Latin America, including Cuba, one of the, [11:53] the, you know, one of the issues that the United, respective United States governments had was the [12:00] nationalization of industries or the thwarting of American corporate interests in those countries. [12:05] I mean, taking it out of the Latin American context, uh, in Iran, uh, Mossadegh, the prime minister of [12:11] the fifties was deposed in part because he wanted to nationalize the oil industry, right? So it was a [12:16] capitalistic impulse of some kind. Well, so, but right now the capitalist impulse [12:21] like is, is actually to, we want to say the capitalists want the sanctions lifted so you [12:26] could do business with Iran. It's the, it's the pro-war side who's imposing sanctions and crushing [12:31] military attacks that is, is almost, is doing a non-capitalist thing, right? Capitalism doesn't [12:37] like, blowing things up doesn't make people, I mean, it quite literally makes one specific firm [12:42] richer, the one that makes the bombs, but it is not, it is not productive to blow things. It's, [12:47] you build a bridge, you lower the cost of transporting goods across the distance, [12:50] you blow up a bridge, you don't accomplish that. Right, exactly. Don't blow a bridge. [12:54] Don't blow up. Bad idea. All right, next up, [12:56] Tucker Carlson with some harsh words for President Trump and the war in Iran as the U.S. continues to [13:01] launch strikes on that country. As we've discussed, we'll be right back.