Democratic Socialism Movement Is GROWING + Slavery Debate — Full Show

[0:08] Yeah, man, let's go, let's go. [0:20] Heard that? [0:22] Yeah, 844-ELR-ELR3. [0:24] 844-ELR-ELR3. [0:28] Yeah, man, we got a lot going on today. [0:32] First, Just Thrive is the big sponsor today, so EL Army, we're going to need you to activate. [0:36] No, you have to. [0:37] You have to. [0:38] It's time. [0:39] It's time. [0:39] Well, if you haven't. [0:41] Got to get that gut right, folks. [0:43] We'll get into it. [0:44] We'll, you know, tell you about your Just Thrive assignment, EL Army, and everybody out [0:49] there who's not regular daggler, you know what I mean? [0:52] We'll get you right with some probiotics. [0:54] 844-ELR-ELR3. [0:56] Laura, you got a big rundown lined up. [0:59] Oh, man, we're definitely going to discuss the drama with Big Tig, man, and his arrest. [1:06] A very sad update with Savannah Guthrie's mom. [1:12] Ugh, that made me so sad yesterday. [1:13] Oh, and I didn't even realize that story was still... [1:16] Bro, it's not what you want. [1:18] And, yeah. [1:19] Yeah, we'll cover it all in the rundown. [1:20] All sounds very uplifting, Laura. [1:22] I know, I know. [1:22] I can't wait for the rundown, person. [1:24] Well, look, here locally in the city, it was a big night last night. [1:26] In the voting world, all the Mom Donnie-endorsed candidates, victory. [1:33] Brad Lander. [1:34] Yeah. [1:35] Claire Valdez. [1:36] Yeah. [1:37] Dara Liza, who came by the show, all secured their, you know, I guess it's nomination, [1:45] and now they got to go to the general election. [1:48] This, you know, with the Democrats in these districts, I think it was basically all seen [1:52] as a win. [1:53] I mean, because you're going to win the general against the Republicans. [1:56] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [1:57] So, it's interesting, because I saw a headline early in the night on New York Post that was [2:01] like, Mom Donnie's first failure. [2:04] His, his, I guess the excitement's not there. [2:07] We're seeing numbers at the polls showing people weren't so excited to come out for Mom [2:11] Donnie's people. [2:12] Well, they all won. [2:13] Yeah. [2:14] Wait, who said that? [2:15] Trash post. [2:17] But like, that just means that's the angle they were trying to play was based on who [2:21] had early voted, numbers wise. [2:23] I think it was like 300,000 early votes or something, and they were like, oh, that's [2:29] not what it was when Mom Donnie ran. [2:31] It's down. [2:32] Well, yeah, bro, this isn't the mayor election. [2:35] This is the primaries for people's congressional seats. [2:37] It's not the same thing. [2:38] Yeah. [2:39] Yeah. [2:39] But the fact is, the people who did come out, came out, all voted for Mom Donnie's [2:43] people. [2:43] Yeah. [2:43] So it's, this is the message that people are getting the message of where this party's [2:47] going. [2:48] Well, and I would also say for all of these candidates in this democratic socialist convo, [2:54] remember, this starts with a candidate you may have heard of by the name of Bernie Sanders. [2:59] You may have heard of him. [3:00] A lot of people had him as somebody that they really, really wanted to be president before [3:06] Biden. [3:07] Right. [3:07] And I think even during Trump's first term, he was running during that conversation, I [3:12] think as well. [3:13] Right. [3:13] During the Hillary cut, he set the tone. [3:16] He ran in 16. [3:17] 16. [3:19] And then he ran in. [3:21] Did he run in 20? [3:22] 20, 20. [3:22] Am I confusing it? [3:24] Edit. [3:24] He ran in 20 also? [3:25] He ran in 20 also. [3:26] Yeah, it was people choosing between Biden and Bernie. [3:28] Yeah. [3:29] People were excited about Bernie because Bernie's policies were very much working class policy. [3:34] Yeah. [3:34] It was very much affordability. [3:36] It was very much, you know, child care, health care, affordability, child care, health [3:43] care, affordability, workers, tax the rich workers, rights, you know, things people in [3:49] the United States of America claim that are important. [3:51] And Democrats in their classic, no hope, miserable way of seeing things thought it can't happen. [3:58] Let's just go with the guy who nobody really likes. [4:00] And meanwhile, the Republicans have had someone now, two out of three terms, who you wouldn't [4:07] have thought on paper should win an election. [4:10] Well, he has no policy. [4:11] Well, he also has no credentials and shouldn't win. [4:13] But still, the point is, you know, these people are like, hey, but yeah, but we like him. [4:17] He stands for the racism we like. [4:19] Well, he stands for the racism. [4:21] He's also very highly entertaining and he can take up a news cycle. [4:24] Right. [4:24] But for these candidates that won here in the city, I think this is mostly about the policies [4:30] they're talking about. [4:31] They're seeing. [4:32] Right. [4:32] I think that's for us here. [4:35] I think we need to really focus on that piece. [4:38] Yeah. [4:38] Yeah. [4:39] Yeah. [4:39] Yeah. [4:39] Yeah. [4:39] Right. [4:39] Because I, you know, they're going to run around and throw around these labels, Democratic [4:44] Socialist, Socialist, Socialism, you know, all of this stuff. [4:48] And I think those are scare tactics. [4:50] I think if we, first of all, I can't sit up here and clearly articulate what a Democratic [4:55] Socialist is other than a Democrat who's for working people. [4:59] A further left, a further left Democrat. [5:01] That's it. [5:02] Right. [5:03] But that socialism title clearly is used, is weaponized. [5:06] Yeah. [5:06] Well, I mean, yeah, but it is what the title, they specifically want that title. [5:11] So you can't, the weaponization is going to happen when you said, hey, we don't want [5:15] to run as regular Democrats. [5:16] We want to be Democratic Socialists. [5:17] Well, I think there, but I think because of Bernie and what Bernie always represented, [5:21] I think it's the truest sense of the word, not the, not the boogeyman that American foreign [5:26] policy has made it right. [5:28] Because most of the socialism that we understand in South America and Central America or around [5:33] the world was destabilized when they tried to make, you know, natural resources and these [5:39] things more for the people. [5:40] The U.S. [5:40] government will go down there and tamper with those and put in puppet, you know, politicians [5:45] that would take from the people. [5:46] So most immigrants that come here or come people in other nations or even people here [5:51] look at that because that narrative has been created as a bad thing. [5:54] It's a big one. [5:55] It's a big one. [5:56] And most people don't even know what socialism is supposed to mean. [5:58] They just know it's failed. [5:59] And they associate it with communism and communism is bad. [6:02] It's all bad. [6:04] And Russia and Cuba and bad. [6:05] Yeah. [6:06] That's it. [6:06] I saw a lot of comments from a lot of Latinos being like, it started like this in my country. [6:12] It started with socialism. [6:13] And look where we ended up, like a Cuban, a Venezuelan. [6:17] You know what I mean? [6:17] Yeah. [6:17] So it's definitely the boogeyman talking point. [6:20] But listen, I'm excited for everybody who won last night. [6:25] Me and Kingway were sending videos of Spanish-speaking media, like the way they were attacking Daria [6:31] Lisa. [6:32] And yeah, yo, so nasty. [6:35] Like there was one she hit. [6:36] And I wish they would have prepared her a little better. [6:38] She walked out of a morning show. [6:39] I was in La Mega. [6:40] Here in the city. [6:41] She walked out. [6:42] They were yelling at her, like screaming at her. [6:45] What were they screaming? [6:46] Well, the story goes that she wouldn't put the Dominican flag or apparently allegedly wouldn't [6:52] put the Dominican flag in her bio on social media. [6:55] And she thinks her reasoning was that nationalism like that is violence. [7:02] Meaning, like I'm not going to like ascribe a flag or an alignment with a government that's [7:08] been doing harm. [7:08] I'm just not going to do that just to ingratiate myself. [7:12] This is what I read, by the way. [7:13] This is to ingratiate myself through some like symbolism. [7:20] And so then it got spun into she spit on the Dominican flag. [7:25] And on top of all the crazy smear campaigns and the fact that the anti-blackness, when she [7:32] was in that interview, she was just trying to focus on policy. [7:35] Like, this is what I'm trying to do. [7:36] And they just were not listening to the point where she was like, all right, you guys are [7:39] just yelling at me. [7:40] I'm just, I'm going to leave. [7:41] Really? [7:42] And she walked out. [7:42] Yeah. [7:42] Oh, I haven't seen that. [7:44] I haven't seen it. [7:44] I just heard about it yesterday. [7:45] Yeah. [7:46] But- [7:46] On La Mega, that's what they did? [7:47] Yeah. [7:47] I mean, they're right wing. [7:49] Well, I can't tell you how you listened because it's in Spanish. [7:52] Yeah, I wouldn't understand. [7:52] But I've told you guys before. [7:53] We've had this conversation on the show before. [7:55] Yeah. [7:56] Yeah. [7:56] They're pretty right wing. [7:57] Wow. [7:57] Well, good for her, man. [7:58] She's an exciting, she's an exciting candidate. [8:00] We've always liked Brad Lander. [8:02] Yeah. [8:02] Yeah. [8:02] I don't know much about Valdez, but it feels, it all feels good. [8:07] Well, look, if what we're seeing with Mondani is trying to get things done and get, once [8:12] again, back to policy, trying to find a path to affordability, trying to find a path to [8:17] take care of more workers, trying to find a path to improve public education and little [8:22] things, garbage and potholes, and if that's what we're talking about, and these things [8:28] could have been done efficiently all these years and they just haven't been because of [8:32] mismanagement and not prioritizing the people, why wouldn't we be excited about these people? [8:37] Yeah. [8:37] We've been happy with AOC pretty much so far. [8:40] Well, I just, you know, for me, it's just about pushing the Democrats further left and [8:45] getting us eventually to the party representing what people like us actually care about. [8:49] Yeah. [8:50] You know what I mean? [8:50] Well, and I think too, you know, right now, like you can, once again, I don't even like [8:55] using terms like left or right, even though it is appropriate, but it's about working people, [9:02] man. [9:03] It's about people who are trying to afford groceries, afford a place to live, afford, you [9:11] know, to have a good public school. [9:13] And you know what I mean? [9:14] Like these simple things that people don't have. [9:17] I just don't understand how people can even question like these things. [9:20] Do you know what I mean? [9:21] Like I just read some BS that the Trump administration canceled a crazy amount of grants that were [9:26] focused on preventing teen pregnancy. [9:28] They're so obsessed with women having babies earlier. [9:31] They're pushing these trad wife movements, all this BS yet people cannot afford childcare. [9:38] It is insanely expensive. [9:41] And we're very privileged that we have decent jobs where we can pay. [9:44] Do you know how many people I know? [9:46] They're like, what am I going to do? [9:47] Having to think about putting your child, the most important thing in the world, in a quote [9:53] unquote, underground childcare system, because that's all you can afford is sick. [10:00] Well, look, I know people who have great jobs and can't afford to get a two bedroom apartment. [10:07] I know somebody who can't find an apartment below $2,500 in a nice area with her two children and her man in the state of New Jersey that has close enough proximity because she works in the city. [10:29] And her daycare, she has to pick up at a certain time. [10:33] Yeah. [10:34] So to get to the city and to get back to daycare, she can't even find an apartment that can get her out. [10:42] So she has to like ask to leave work early, which then she's on calls when she gets, you know what I mean? [10:48] Like it's a whole thing. [10:49] And this is just, you know, obviously she's trying to work one or two jobs to do this. [10:52] And her husband also works. [10:54] Yeah. [10:54] It's really sad. [10:56] You guys are saying things aren't going well financially in this country is what it sounds like you're saying. [11:00] No, they're not. [11:00] And the more candidates that focus on affordability, you know, look, I know we live in a bubble here in New York City where things are very, very, very expensive and also can be very, very progressive. [11:12] But I think, you know, the way Wall Street and the big real estate and the billionaires operate, we have to have individuals like those that just got elected to balance this out. [11:21] Can I also say, let's be real. [11:22] We always talk about this like ticket prices and stuff like that. [11:25] So we collectively, at least I can speak for myself, have accepted a level of price gouging that's just crazy. [11:34] And it's not just tickets. [11:35] It's absolutely everything. [11:37] Yeah. [11:37] Like, no, but it's in the last. [11:40] It's haircuts, bro. [11:40] No, it's in the last five years, though. [11:42] Post COVID, we've never in our lifetime, we never have seen anything like that. [11:47] Every place now sells a coffee for $7. [11:50] It's not just Starbucks. [11:51] Like, every little place you go is like, oh, cool, you want a coffee? [11:54] Oh, with milk? [11:54] Oh, $7.45. [11:56] Like, every. [11:57] Oh, a bagel with cream cheese? [11:58] Oh, $7. [11:59] All the things you used to get that would add up to $5 is now $14. [12:03] So listen, listen. [12:03] I went to go, because, you know, now that you have kids, you know, berries are the, you know, berries go to my house like this, right? [12:09] So now I try to make healthier choices. [12:12] So I was like, I'm not going to go with those. [12:13] Those have a bad rap. [12:14] So I'm looking for the organic strawberries, guys, for a supermarket, a fairway. [12:18] You got all that. [12:19] And the ones that are colored like straw, actual strawberries. [12:21] $12 for a carton of strawberries. [12:25] $12. [12:26] Because they're organic. [12:28] Yeah, and by the way, even the cheapy non-organic ones are $9. [12:32] It's all bad. [12:34] It's insane. [12:35] King Lou, you look like you're chomping at the bit to participate in this combo. [12:38] No, I was going to say, and to add to that, in stores, you know those digital signs that they have, right? [12:43] They're going to start dynamic pricing. [12:44] Therefore, they're going to price Galgeny more. [12:46] So let's say it's raining and you need an umbrella. [12:48] You go into a Walmart. [12:49] That price of the umbrella is going to go up depending if it's going to rain or not. [12:53] Oh, absolutely. [12:53] They can change those prices based on the digital signing. [12:56] That needs to be illegal. [12:59] That needs, that has to be something that Amandani fights against. [13:02] Right. [13:02] And you would have to elect more people like Amandani. [13:05] He could fight against it in New York City. [13:06] Right. [13:07] And I believe he already is. [13:08] I know they're trying to do it, I believe, with travel and different things. [13:11] Well, hotels for sure. [13:12] The level of gouging that they would do that, like literally it's raining, normally we sell [13:17] these for $6. [13:18] You need it bad. [13:19] It's $15. [13:19] So now, but here's the fight. [13:22] The fight, that's only part of the fight. [13:25] The CEOs aren't going to take a pay cut. [13:30] And the working people, they want to make more money. [13:33] The person at the register, the person unpacking the boxes, the person driving the boxes, the [13:37] person making the boxes, the person taking the boxes. [13:39] Everybody wants a couple more dollars. [13:41] The people making the most aren't taking a pay cut. [13:45] Where is the money for the working class people coming from if the people at the top aren't [13:51] taking a pay cut? [13:52] No, no, not taking a pay cut. [13:54] They're making more. [13:54] They need more every single time. [14:00] It's not sustainable. [14:01] That's the, that, think about that whenever you're talking about prices, the price of gas, [14:07] who drove the gas to that location and put it in the ground for you to put it in your [14:12] car? [14:12] Who got it off the boat? [14:13] Who put the tires on the truck? [14:17] Everybody at every stop of the way of the chain wants more money. [14:25] And, and the people who do essentially the least work are the ones who always will get [14:30] more money. [14:31] That's right. [14:31] And we're up here debating, trying to get the people who are actually getting their [14:36] hands dirty and, and on the front lines dealing with people, we're trying to get [14:41] them more money. [14:41] That's why people are fighting for minimum wage and all these other things, but the people [14:46] And taxing, and taxing the rich, taxing the rich, because at least you got to be able [14:49] to get it back somewhere because God forbid we had caps on the money that these billionaires [14:54] can make. [14:54] We can't have that. [14:56] We need to be a true capitalist society where Elon Musk can become a trillionaire. [14:59] But tell me, this is why, this is why to be a billionaire is basically inherently to [15:06] be not, not always, but it's tough because they're always, these, these companies are [15:13] always needing to make more. [15:15] Even when it's past the point of reasonable, you have more money than anyone could do anything [15:20] with. [15:20] You're now sucking the world of its resources and all of us, regular people have to pay [15:26] for it every single day. [15:28] So their dividends match. [15:29] It's crazy. [15:31] And we just accept, yo, the other day I stopped. [15:33] It was like, you know, you know those situations where you're like, you're, you're with your person [15:37] and you're like, ah, should we get, should we get something? [15:40] You're not even sure if you really want something. [15:42] Yeah, let's stop. [15:42] Let's, we'll stop and get a bagel on the way. [15:44] All right, cool. [15:46] I grabbed two coffees and two bagels at, at, at, at bagel talk or something on the [15:50] up west side, regular plates, two bagels, two coffees, no locks, none of the extra ish. [15:59] It was $25. [16:00] It's insane. [16:01] Like, do you realize, like that, we're not stopping to go, that's mad. [16:05] Some, I want to scream, like, what are we doing? [16:08] And everyone's online. [16:09] It's like, well, I need my bagels and coffee. [16:11] Yeah. [16:11] But also remember, you're, you're almost 50. [16:15] I don't like when you say it that way, but yeah. [16:18] 46. [16:19] Let's just stay right here at 46. [16:20] Yeah. [16:21] You aren't even in the consumer population they even care about. [16:25] They're conditioning 18 and 19 and 20 year olds that this is normal. [16:29] Right. [16:30] They won't even remember. [16:31] They won't remember a time. [16:32] Like, you remember a time where you could put a quarter in a phone and make a call. [16:37] Yeah. [16:37] Or a quarter into a newspaper machine and pull out 10, 20 newspapers if you want to. [16:42] No, it was an honor system. [16:43] You was only supposed to take one. [16:44] It was an honor system. [16:46] And I think for the most part, it worked. [16:48] For the most part, it worked. [16:50] Look, there's still an honor system around the city. [16:52] You walk by these newsstands, they got stuff laid out in front. [16:55] People don't take it. [16:56] I think about that all the time. [16:58] How much food and stuff is literally you walk right past. [17:05] Like, we talk about how crazy shit is in our city or the world. [17:09] You know how much shit you walk past? [17:11] And people generally don't go grabbing and run. [17:13] And they generally don't take it. [17:14] No. [17:17] Round of applause for us, man. [17:18] We're good people. [17:19] But we're mostly good. [17:20] We're mostly good people, man. [17:22] People could be all right. [17:23] Stealing old racks of newsstands. [17:26] If you want the full circle, though, on to why people like us have the politics that we [17:30] have generally, it's because of the conversation we're having right now. [17:33] Right. [17:34] And of course, they villainize socialism. [17:36] And of course, they villainize communism. [17:38] Any regular person who's not a billionaire or has hundreds of millions of dollars would [17:43] look at the general ideals of socialism and go, well, yeah, this makes a lot more sense. [17:49] Everyone can live. [17:50] We don't need some people to be on their house on the hill staring down at all the peasants. [17:55] That's basically what it comes down to. [17:58] Yeah, man. [17:59] I know how excited people are for the Marriqueta, the Mamdani's grocery store in Harlem and [18:07] the amount of chatter around it. [18:08] It's beautiful to hear and it makes me happy, but it also reminds me of the need to just [18:14] have affordable groceries. [18:17] People are struggling. [18:19] Remember when $100 can get you a couple bags? [18:22] Bro, it's one bag now. [18:24] I mean. [18:25] For the most part. [18:26] That's crazy. [18:27] For the most part. [18:28] It's like a bag. [18:28] A bag and a half meat? [18:30] Nah, really? [18:31] A hundred? [18:32] Depends what you're getting. [18:33] I guess it depends who you're getting. [18:34] Yeah. [18:35] But if you want healthy food, for sure. [18:36] Yes. [18:36] You're paying more for healthy food. [18:38] Unless you want a bunch of processed food. [18:40] What's in the bag? [18:40] I want to know what's in the bag. [18:41] A bunch of veggies. [18:43] Yeah. [18:44] I mean, it depends. [18:44] Meat. [18:45] Depends. [18:45] Some good meat. [18:46] Fish. [18:47] You know. [18:48] Whatever it is that you... [18:49] You ain't buying any fish. [18:49] Whatever you want for your family. [18:54] But it's beyond. [18:55] It's insane, bro. [18:57] It's absolutely insane. [18:57] People are really struggling. [18:58] And once again, we want to reiterate, really happy here in New York City that the candidates [19:03] that want to go on to represent the city on the federal level is a big deal. [19:07] So, and as Mom, I think, I don't know if we have Mom Donnie's speech today. [19:12] I don't know what clips we have today, actually. [19:15] We got a bunch of good stuff. [19:16] I missed the sheet. [19:19] You guys have it? [19:21] Huh? [19:22] No sheet? [19:23] Oh, we just have Daria Lisa. [19:26] Oh, let's listen to Daria Lisa. [19:30] 21. [19:31] To you and me. [19:33] No problem. [19:33] A single one of us has a story about being let down by our governments. [19:41] About our representatives. [19:42] Our former representatives. [19:44] About the affordability crisis and looking the other way. [19:56] while the real estate corporations that funded his campaign raised our rents and priced [20:01] us out of the community that we love. [20:09] There you go. [20:15] Daria Lisa. [20:16] We had a great combo with her, too. [20:17] What was that? [20:18] About a week and a half ago? [20:19] Two weeks ago? [20:20] Yeah. [20:20] Around two weeks ago. [20:21] Yeah. [20:21] Yeah, Griff. [20:22] I don't have the sheet, my bro. [20:23] This one? [20:24] Yeah. [20:25] Thanks. [20:27] Hand that over. [20:27] No problem, man. [20:28] These things happen. [20:29] Yeah, and Daria Lisa, I mean, listen, the stuff that was out there on her not being, [20:33] you know, perfect in her past and the tweets and the this and that. [20:37] We have to understand that in order to get some exciting people in here who might make [20:42] change, who are 32 years old, you might have some people who in their past have some moments [20:49] of saying some ish that I'm like, ah. [20:51] Yeah, yeah. [20:52] You know what I mean? [20:52] Because they were, because they're passionate people who are like very much against status [20:58] quo and want change. [20:59] And in that, I got news for you. [21:01] When you're young and you're really, really out there pushing the envelope, guess what [21:05] you say? [21:05] Dumb shit. [21:06] Happens all the time. [21:07] I know I certainly did. [21:08] And then usually as you go. [21:10] Still do. [21:10] By the way, still do. [21:12] You're not wrong. [21:13] And then as time goes on, you generally think, oh yeah, you know, I know where I was going [21:17] in that moment, but this is what I'm trying to do. [21:20] And maybe there's a better way to say it. [21:21] And there's a better way to say it. [21:22] I'm learning the better ways to say it. [21:23] Like, you know, I mean, that Elisa, when she was up here and I brought up some of the [21:27] uncomfortable things that I knew were out there and we had to mention, I could see her [21:32] getting a little squirmy, but she's brand new to this. [21:35] Yeah. [21:36] Like, this is what it has to be. [21:38] Like, do we want people to eventually be great? [21:41] Like, now you're looking at an AOC. [21:43] AOC is, you know, potential future president. [21:46] Like, that's the kind of level we're talking about as she gets better and better and better. [21:51] And she was practically how she was two years removed from bartending when she ran. [21:54] Yeah. [21:54] That's right. [21:55] Yeah. [21:55] We had her on the show back then. [21:56] And then I also know that, yes, I mean, she did say crazy things in the past, but even [22:00] like when you pushed her about, you know, her criticism of Joe Biden and Kamala, she [22:05] was like, yes, I was, but I still voted for them. [22:08] Right. [22:08] You know, I thought that was important. [22:10] I know I saw some people in the comments who were like, you know, that didn't understand [22:13] why we were pushing her on that. [22:15] But to me, as someone who at this point, who I guess relative to the comments on social [22:19] media would be considered not the far left person that many people that I know consider [22:24] me, but consider me more, you know, centrist. [22:28] Yeah. [22:28] I just want to make sure you're voting for the Democrat come to the presidential election. [22:32] Sorry. [22:32] Yeah. [22:33] Need it. [22:33] I'm excited. [22:34] They could roll out a toaster oven. [22:36] I need to know you're not going to abstain if we're running against Trump, J.D. Vance [22:42] or Marco Rubio. [22:43] So I need to know that. [22:45] I mean, they get in line running against fascism and white supremacy. [22:48] Yes. [22:49] So Christian nationalism and all of it. [22:51] So I don't consider it a centrist ideal to demand of our people and tell me you're going [22:55] to support the Democrat, even if you're not fully aligned. [22:58] Yeah, I do wish. [22:59] And I hope. [22:59] And I have I have a lot of faith in Daria Lisa. [23:02] Let's see what she does for the district. [23:03] I used to live in that district. [23:04] So that's why I pay attention. [23:05] But I want her because this was so convoluted with all the insane propaganda and the drama [23:12] within the Latino community. [23:14] I also want her to pay attention to the black community because it's very important where [23:20] she represents. [23:21] And then I did see some, you know, black folks stating like, yes, while I voted for I didn't [23:27] feel like I was included in the conversation. [23:30] So I just hope that, you know, she was drowning in all this disgusting propaganda and anti-blackness. [23:36] I hope that she also pays attention to the black community. [23:39] Real quick, because you're not being specific. [23:41] Anti-blackness. [23:42] You're saying people were using anti-blackness to come after her being Afro-Latina. [23:48] Yes. [23:48] But specifically the Latino community were trying to use being Haitian as a slur. [23:53] Right, right. [23:54] The idea of being black. [23:55] And even calling herself Afro-Latina for that matter was problematic. [23:59] Yeah. [23:59] Which just goes to highlight the colonialism and, you know, you know, white supremacy that [24:06] has infected the brains of a lot of Latinos. [24:08] Well, a lot of people. [24:09] Yeah, everyone. [24:09] Yeah. [24:10] Have you been following the Jasmine Crockett stuff at all? [24:14] No. [24:14] I haven't. [24:15] Neither of you saw that? [24:16] About what? [24:18] Jasmine Crockett, some people being, there's a debate of people being unhappy with Jasmine [24:24] Crockett not lining up with Tallarico. [24:27] Okay. [24:27] After she said when she lost to him, like, I will do whatever. [24:31] I heard a blur. [24:32] I saw a red line. [24:33] Yeah, I'll do whatever I can to support him. [24:34] And then at some point she was asked, like, are you? [24:36] And she was like, eh, I don't know. [24:37] I'm not sure yet. [24:38] And people were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on? [24:40] And then I saw Rachel Lindsay talking about it on Higher Learning. [24:47] Rachel's from Texas. [24:48] So she was talking about this specifically and expressing her frustration about Jasmine [24:53] Crockett not getting on board to make sure, because there's a chance for Texas, like, [24:57] across the board to finally be mostly blue. [25:00] That's an opportunity that exists. [25:01] And so Rachel was expressing her frustration with that. [25:05] And the comments, the split, is why are we always telling a black woman she has to do? [25:12] Why is everyone counting on her to do this? [25:15] Like, she lost. [25:16] Why does she have to support Tallarico? [25:18] She's done enough. [25:19] I think she appeared in one campaign commercial with him. [25:22] And so people are like, that's enough. [25:23] So it's just a debate that was going on out there. [25:25] I think, look, I think there is a, there's historical significance of making the, you [25:33] know, the woman, and in this case, black women, are expected to behave a certain way. [25:40] Right? [25:40] Like, that's a, we know that to be a thing. [25:43] I think that carries over into what you're seeing in this. [25:47] But if we remove that, which is tough to do, but just for the sake of the convo. [25:52] And you make it about just losing candidate in the party, supporting the winning candidate [25:56] in the party. [25:57] And this is what a candidate should do. [26:00] And most candidates do do, is make sure that the, just because you lost the primary, you [26:07] are still a part of this collective. [26:09] And now it's about, I mean, look, we saw, we've seen Kamala do it. [26:13] We've seen, you know. [26:16] Everyone do it. [26:17] Hillary do it. [26:18] We've seen, I'm trying to think of a presidential candidate. [26:21] Bernie did it. [26:21] Bernie did it. [26:23] So, you know, it happens where you're not the winner. [26:26] The Lord knows the Republicans do it. [26:28] This man will call out, call their wives out of their name. [26:30] They still line up to support. [26:31] I know, he called your wife ugly, bro. [26:32] Yeah, he called her a dog. [26:34] And you're like, well, this is, hey. [26:35] Hey, we're Republicans. [26:36] We got to get the work done. [26:37] But you're right. [26:38] It's hard to remove the cultural stuff around that. [26:41] I think people do get. [26:42] And you're just talking about regular humans, right? [26:45] Most of the time. [26:46] Not, not. [26:46] Well, Jasmine, I think, knows the work that needs to be done. [26:50] And maybe she's waiting for some sort of conversation to take place that hasn't taken place. [26:54] She put up a video. [26:55] She put up a video on social media, kind of be like, why is everyone worried about me? [26:59] I'm not the one who's running. [27:00] Why? [27:00] What are you concerned about Jasmine Crockett for? [27:02] And I think it was like, well, you're important. [27:05] That's why people are concerned. [27:06] They really want Tolerico to win. [27:07] Right. [27:08] Tolerico is seemingly a really great Democrat. [27:12] I've been following him for a long time. [27:14] You know, a long time I started following him on Instagram. [27:18] I was like, okay, this dude is using the Bible and calling out, you know, and he's very religious, [27:24] but he's calling out the inconsistencies with the religious groups. [27:28] I mean, he's using religion. [27:28] He's actually following the teachings of Christianity. [27:31] Well, yeah, according to, you know, the, the, you know, uh, philosophical and, and, you know, theological interpretations of the Bible. [27:41] That's what he's going toward. [27:42] Um, whereas most people, you know, uh, misconstrue it, but you know, it's always yet to be seen until they actually get on the job. [27:51] Yeah. [27:51] You know, and that's a, that's the cool thing. [27:54] And also the annoying thing about the way our political system is set up. [27:58] Cause you can get somebody in there and they could be going good. [28:01] Like mom, Donnie is right now and we all love it. [28:03] And we're hoping this continues, but something could go left. [28:06] I mean, look what happened with, uh, what's his name? [28:08] Hoodie guy. [28:09] Fetterman. [28:09] Oh, Fetterman. [28:10] Yeah. [28:11] Super left. [28:11] I mean, beyond left. [28:13] He didn't go left. [28:14] He went right. [28:14] Yeah. [28:16] Crazy. [28:17] You know, I knew once the sweatshirts got so crazy. [28:21] I was like, nah, it's too far. [28:22] Now he's wearing suits. [28:24] No, he's nice. [28:25] I still see him in his trash. [28:26] I see him all the time in suits. [28:27] With a baggy suit? [28:27] Maybe a little, but usually he's wearing that. [28:29] He's usually wearing his bullish still. [28:31] No. [28:31] That's the one thing he's committed to is the sweatsuit. [28:34] Not anything. [28:35] Yo, it's so weird too. [28:36] Like it honestly seems like he has serious problems. [28:40] Um, I want to bring up, bring up this main old video. [28:42] You guys, uh, who sent this in the chat? [28:44] I did. [28:45] Laura did. [28:46] And Laura, why did you send this video? [28:48] Because it was being said to me. [28:50] It was funny. [28:51] I saw it. [28:51] It hit my algo too. [28:52] Yeah. [28:52] It hit my, yeah. [28:53] I'm surprised it didn't hit your algo. [28:54] I didn't, I didn't see it yesterday. [28:55] I wasn't on social. [28:56] It was two days ago, but it's funny. [28:58] So this is main old with Jim and Dave and fab. [29:02] And I guess Jim was asking him a question about, uh, believing if the slave trade happened. [29:08] Yeah. [29:09] Him and Davies were questioning it. [29:11] The way they brought that, the, the, the, the slaves from Africa on the boats, you think [29:15] all that was facts? [29:16] What do you mean? [29:17] The way they brought them on here? [29:18] What they brought over here on the boats? [29:20] They stopped in Charleston. [29:21] They stopped in Virginia. [29:22] What do you mean? [29:23] Did they come from Africa? [29:24] Did they come from Africa? [29:25] They went across the Atlantic Ocean on a boat. [29:27] Yes. [29:27] The way they, the way they showed us. [29:29] Right. [29:30] You believe that? [29:30] Well, they stopped in other places though. [29:33] I don't understand the question. [29:35] I ain't gonna get too, I ain't gonna get too deep today. [29:38] I'm gonna save that for another day. [29:39] Did they come from Africa to America? [29:42] Generally, yes. [29:42] Okay. [29:44] All right. [29:44] What's, what's, what's the question? [29:45] You got a question? [29:46] I was just asking your opinion on it. [29:47] No, no, I want you, what's up? [29:49] I'm be asking, so do you feel, do you feel that there were already people here in America [29:54] when they got here? [29:55] Right, because the, the, what they, what we call Indians were black people. [29:59] You think all of us, that's black people? [30:00] You think all the people that was here was just Indians? [30:02] You think, yeah. [30:02] No, they, they black. [30:04] Indians were black. [30:05] I'm, all I'm saying is that. [30:06] Native Americans. [30:07] Native Americans. [30:08] So you think before any slaves, anybody got here, this land was just filled with Native [30:14] Americans? [30:16] Yeah. [30:16] Yes. [30:17] Like Native, the Native. [30:19] You think it was just them? [30:21] There was no white people, no black people, no other people. [30:24] They came here from, they came here. [30:26] 1400s. [30:27] Okay. [30:28] Okay, and you just think that this. [30:30] All right, yeah, bro, I just want to know what you're saying, nigga. [30:32] I'm asking your opinion. [30:34] I don't understand your line of questions. [30:35] Say what you're saying, nigga. [30:36] I'm just asking you. [30:37] I want to know how you feel. [30:38] The same way I ask you if the world was round or if the world was flat. [30:42] I'm not asking if we ain't talking about all that. [30:43] We are, though. [30:44] If you got some knowledge, share it. [30:47] You got something to say, brother. [30:48] Give it to us. [30:50] I was just merely asking, wanting to know what you thought. [30:52] Because I said what I said, and you keep, you know, I don't understand. [30:57] Mano, do you think we came here or we already was here? [31:00] We were here. [31:01] We were already indigenous people. [31:03] We already, we already inhabited all these places. [31:09] They say that they discovered it, but how do you discover something that people was already [31:12] ill? [31:12] Right. [31:13] This is a fact. [31:15] Okay? [31:15] So, what we talking about? [31:18] Jesus, his face is so funny. [31:20] I, I, and I still don't know what the implication was. [31:23] That's the funniest part is. [31:24] East at no point explained. [31:26] I think, I think, I think those, I think it would serve those gentlemen well to take [31:29] a history class. [31:32] Part one, take a history class. [31:35] Travel. [31:36] Yes. [31:36] Like, you can go and meet some of the indigenous tribes and hear their story of, you know, [31:45] and maybe they can share with you how long. [31:46] And some of those indigenous tribes along the Eastern seaboard, uh, do present as black [31:53] because Africans traveled from Africa around the world before the slave trade that took [31:59] place. [32:00] So did Vikings. [32:02] So did a lot of other people, right? [32:03] Like it did travel. [32:05] Some stayed, some left. [32:06] Some history is long and complicated. [32:09] The first humans, they say walked out of Africa 60,000 years ago. [32:13] I am cramming to understand how we came out of that clip and you're now having serious [32:17] conversation. [32:17] That was the most, can we just laugh at the most, what the hell was East even suggesting? [32:22] Well, because I think, I think people need it. [32:24] I honestly, I'm looking at that like, because these conversations happen on the internet. [32:28] But it's also people just being high. [32:29] Let's be honest. [32:30] People also just get high and say dumb things. [32:32] And some people just, you know, people just follow conspiracy. [32:33] Some people will sit up and have that convo, bro. [32:37] And I'm like, yo, go to take a class. [32:40] Go to the places where people can give you the information, travel, fly around. [32:46] You know, you could literally, all of these people act like they got all this money. [32:49] You think the world is flat? [32:51] Get on a boat. [32:53] There's boats that you can get on and you can go discover for yourself. [32:58] Go to Antarctica. [33:00] Guess what, dude? [33:02] Yeah. [33:03] Go on out there. [33:05] I just, I have to imagine. [33:08] I mean, I don't know what the, again, I still don't know what the implication was. [33:11] Well, that's why I'm getting into it. [33:12] Because I think Jim and Dave are trying to ask if black people were already here. [33:17] And there is a. [33:18] So they're saying they do not believe in the transatlantic slave trade? [33:21] They're questioning. [33:22] Because there is a. [33:22] Whether the slave trade was real? [33:24] Yes. [33:25] Bro, that's a real thing, bro. [33:27] I can't. [33:28] Nah, bro. [33:28] Listen, that's fine for you to have that conversation with yo-yos. [33:31] I'm laughing. [33:32] That was insane talk. [33:34] That was, and I loved seeing Mano get so, I've never seen that quite that side of Mano. [33:39] See, but you can write it off. [33:39] You can write, I have, because Mano's smart and Mano knows. [33:42] But I've just never seen that level of seriousness. [33:45] No, just, Mano's face was funny and he was offended. [33:48] No, but he went, what's up? [33:49] I know. [33:50] Like, what, were we fighting? [33:51] Where are we going? [33:52] Well, no, because I feel him, because I feel like you're trying to play with black history [33:56] and make me look, and like, we don't know what we're talking about. [33:59] Like, what are you saying right now? [34:00] And, yes, Rasaan. [34:02] I'm sorry, I think you're wrong, April. [34:04] I don't think they're questioning if the slave trade happened. [34:07] I think they're questioning if black people only got here because of the slave trade. [34:12] Okay. [34:13] Either way, that's why during the clip when it was running, I said the answer is both. [34:17] Well, yeah. [34:19] The answer is both. [34:20] There's indigenous people through the islands all over that look black that was already here. [34:25] And then there were Africans that were brought here also. [34:27] And people try to act like they understand time. [34:30] And that's the thing that frustrates me when I see these clips. [34:33] Because when you're talking about 1619, you're talking about 1600 years after the quote-unquote [34:42] start of time where Jesus was on the Gregorian calendar. [34:47] You're not talking about all of time. [34:50] You're not going all the way back 5,000 years ago, 6,000 years ago. [34:54] And people don't understand the difference between 1619 and 6,000. [34:59] Yeah. [34:59] They just don't time it. [35:01] It's a lot of time. [35:02] It's a lot of time. [35:03] That's a lot of time. [35:03] It's a lot of time. [35:04] And I think people get lost on that. [35:06] And I think when you're having a conversation about the black American experience, it's very complicated. [35:12] I agree. [35:13] I agree. [35:14] And I don't think Dave East is going to be invited to have any dissertations. [35:16] But unfortunately, you know what triggers me about that. [35:19] What triggers me about that is that the same conversation of people who will fix their lips [35:24] and say Kamala wasn't black. [35:27] It's all in that same thought process of not understanding blackness and the black American [35:34] experience. [35:34] I think that's why I take it serious. [35:36] Because these are the same people that are going to have a platform. [35:38] And then when it's time to get people motivated around something, they're going to have all [35:42] these questions that aren't rooted in real understanding. [35:46] Everything you're saying is factual. [35:48] So I can't just laugh at it. [35:50] Sorry. [35:50] That's unfortunate. [35:51] But you can do both. [35:53] Have the laugh and then the dissertation. [35:55] But I feel Mano. [35:56] I'm like, what are you saying, bro? [35:57] I know. [35:58] What are you saying right now? [35:59] I think that's what amused us, right? [36:01] Because that's how we felt. [36:02] But the way he did it, it was funny. [36:04] I was just like, what on earth? [36:07] And maybe the conversation went on and they expressed better what they were trying to even [36:12] say. [36:12] But to your point, whatever it was, was not going to make sense. [36:16] And there's a lot of people with microphones now. [36:18] So that's the other part. [36:19] Yes, Griff. [36:21] We got Jackson. [36:23] Oh. [36:24] Jackson. [36:24] Jackson. [36:27] Hey, Jackson. [36:29] Hey, good morning. [36:30] How are you? [36:30] I'm great, Jackson. [36:31] Drop it. [36:32] What you got for us? [36:33] Man, it's like this. [36:35] I'm just listening to the whole transatlantic slave trade talk. [36:38] And I'm like, nothing for nothing, but we were already here. [36:41] And I know that this has been echoed. [36:42] I don't know where I am in with the conversation, where you guys are at, because I was on hold [36:47] listening to some corny-ass music. [36:48] But be that as it may, we were here. [36:53] We were established. [36:55] Who is we? [36:56] Who is we? [36:57] New York City was established. [36:59] But who is we? [37:00] There's no way the math adds up as far as the population of, quote unquote, blacks and the [37:07] transatlantic slave trade, what they had the ability to do as far as that transatlantic, [37:12] you know, travel. [37:16] That's all I'm saying. [37:17] The math doesn't add up. [37:19] Well, thanks for your call, brother. [37:20] I'd say the majority of us were here. [37:22] And then- [37:23] Majority? [37:23] A very, very small percentage were brought over by Africa. [37:26] Very small percentage. [37:29] Go to Brazil. [37:30] Go to Brazil and holler back. [37:33] I'll just leave you at that. [37:34] Go to Brazil, holler back. [37:35] Go talk to the Gullah Geechee in South Carolina and Atlanta. [37:39] Go talk to a lot of people who were brought over or intermixed with indigenous cultures [37:47] that were already here. [37:47] The Garifuna communities. [37:49] The Garifuna. [37:50] There's so many communities that have their history. [37:52] The Maroons. [37:53] There's so many. [37:55] Like, to just- [37:56] And that's why I say it's complicated. [37:58] Yeah, but- [37:58] Because I'm not going to get- [37:59] He says the math isn't adding up. [38:01] Like, what math? [38:02] What math are you talking about? [38:03] Yeah, because you're now essentially questioning how big the transatlantic slave trade was. [38:07] And to call it a very small percentage- [38:10] Bro, I- [38:10] Well, so, and I'm going to just say this and I'm done with it. [38:13] Too many black people don't want to be African. [38:16] That's where the root of this conversation comes from. [38:19] Too many black people want to act like your heritage is not tied to being African. [38:25] That's what this is rooted in. [38:27] That you are somehow different than Africans. [38:31] And you can escape the actual history that's here. [38:34] And that way you could say, I'm indigenous. [38:37] I'm not African American. [38:41] Is that, you think about a bias, an anti-African bias? [38:45] I think it's that. [38:46] Or not wanting to be associated with slavery? [38:48] I think it's all of it. [38:49] I think it's the first one you mentioned. [38:51] I think it's the slavery component. [38:53] And I also think it's lack of education and the fact that we live in a society that has tried to erase our story. [39:01] And so it's frustrating for people because it feels like your story has been minimized to just being on slave boats and being a part of slavery when there's much more dynamic history there. [39:15] So it's rooted in this. [39:16] But once again, that's why I go back to the time component. [39:19] Because yes, black Africans were in the United States before the slave trade. [39:25] That's a fact. [39:27] And they weren't brought over on boats. [39:30] That's a fact. [39:31] Black Africans. [39:32] Black Africans. [39:33] And they weren't brought over as enslaved people. [39:35] That you mean they explored and came in. [39:37] They explored and migrated in these things. [39:39] But that's why I talk about time, right? [39:42] Because you're talking about thousands of years, not hundreds of years. [39:46] And sometimes people, I feel like people's brains can't process the difference between a hundred and a thousand. [39:52] Based on this conversation, I'm sensing what you're saying. [39:54] Or tens of thousands for that matter, right? [39:57] Like, even when you talk about the migration of humans that were indigenous on the west coast of North America, you're talking about people who walked across a land bridge when the water was lower and then it rose up and you can't walk across that land bridge anymore. [40:13] You're saying that was a long time ago. [40:14] That was a long time ago. [40:15] You're saying that. [40:16] Okay, I got it. [40:16] You know what I'm saying? [40:18] Or how, you know, Polynesian individuals in the Pacific Islands, they're black looking individuals. [40:24] They're on islands in the Pacific Ocean. [40:26] Like, they have kinky hair and broad noses and dark skin and they're on islands in the Pacific Ocean. [40:35] They look African. [40:36] You think they walked there? [40:38] No, they've been using boats and traveling for the longest. [40:40] Y'all seen Moana? [40:42] Y'all saw Moana. [40:43] You know what I'm saying? [40:44] These are wayfinders, man. [40:48] Yo, bro. [40:48] But I just feel like we try to make it all make sense in the 400 years of the experience of this country we're in. [41:01] It's much more vast than that. [41:03] And I feel like when people get calls like that, the root of that is a frustration of the information not being told correctly. [41:10] It's not being taught. [41:12] Yeah, but now you're going, wait. [41:13] Now you're, because of that and you're thirst for more information on these things, you're now going rogue and basically saying you think the percentage of black Americans who are descendants of enslaved people is a tiny minority. [41:27] That's ridiculous. [41:28] You're now making things up. [41:30] Well, but once again, we don't know. [41:32] That's the problem. [41:33] So people, like, we could say that based on what we were told, but there's a lack of trust in what we were told. [41:40] Okay. [41:40] You see what I'm saying? [41:41] Sure, sure. [41:41] All of this lack of trust. [41:43] But at some point, if you overemphasize the lack of trust, you're now doubting. [41:48] A hundred million people were in part of American slavery and died related to slavery. [41:55] Some insane number. [41:57] It's not a, even if it's smaller than we were taught, it's not what he was saying. [42:02] Well, and that's why I said go to Brazil. [42:03] You should go to places that, Brazil has the largest population of black people outside of Africa in the world. [42:13] Brazil. [42:14] It's like 80% black. [42:19] You can go and- [42:20] And very indigenous also. [42:21] And very indigenous also. [42:22] You can go and see those people. [42:23] Like, they exist. [42:25] You can meet people. [42:26] You can study people's heritage. [42:28] There's not like a one, it's not a one path. [42:30] Right, right, right. [42:31] And I think that's where people get frustrated is because it's all lumped in and they want to know the truth. [42:35] And I get that. [42:36] But at the same time, I also think a lot of it is rooted in not wanting to be associated with Africa. [42:42] And also not understanding time. [42:45] Well, Laura, I just want you to know that if you were sending over that clip for a quick ha-ha, I have a button for you before we get to the rundown. [42:52] Congratulations. [42:53] You played yourself. [42:53] That's why I asked before. [42:54] I was like, why did you just say that? [42:56] Why did you do that? [42:56] Why? [42:57] Because Laura and I are simpletons and we were just laughing at it. [42:59] We were just laughing at it. [43:00] I can laugh in a moment, but it's too real. [43:02] Like, it's a real combo that's taking place. [43:04] And people really want their heritage. [43:06] Like, you see how many people are out here trying to find answers, man. [43:09] Yeah, I guess I'm just, I'm at a point now where I'm so used to what I see on the internet is so many people being unserious with their conversations about everything that's important. [43:21] The heritage. [43:22] I think Dave and Jim, honestly, are trying to, like, have a convo to find answers. [43:28] Could they have been smoking weed? [43:29] Could it have been all this? [43:30] And then tongue-in-cheek, absolutely. [43:32] But I think that's why Mano kind of raised up, like, yo, what are you saying, right? [43:35] Like, where are you trying to take me, right? [43:36] Which I do believe is the appropriate way for a friend to act when people start suggesting things that are crazy. [43:45] You know what I'm saying? [43:46] Kanye needed early on. [43:48] He needed Mano to be like, yo, what are you saying? [43:50] When he started toying with the, well, you know, Hitler. [43:53] Yo, yo, what did you say? [43:54] Yo, what's up? [43:55] That's what he needed. [43:58] And we don't have that. [43:59] And I just had a conversation the other day with someone that I'm not going to get to on here. [44:03] But, like, we were debating racial stuff. [44:06] This is a well-known person. [44:09] And I was expressing some of my issues with certain things. [44:12] And when they were saying that, like, they don't judge people for, like, their dumb views, essentially. [44:17] I was like, see, that's where we, that's where I can't relate anymore. [44:22] When people have views that I view to be dangerous. [44:25] Now I can't have the, it's one of two things. [44:27] Dumb and dangerous can be the same. [44:29] They could also be different. [44:30] Yeah, but I'm talking about when they're the same. [44:32] Okay. [44:33] Because Holocaust denying, racism denying. [44:39] Yeah. [44:40] We're in danger land now. [44:41] Now we're in danger land. [44:42] So there's two things. [44:44] There's either Mano, yo, what's up? [44:45] What are you saying? [44:45] What's up? [44:46] There's either that, I don't have the same base in my voice. [44:48] I can't do it. [44:49] Or there's, oh, my God, Maya dropped her shoe. [44:52] I got to call you back. [44:53] And you don't call back. [44:54] Yeah. [44:55] Which I just did recently. [44:57] So, you know what I'm saying? [44:58] I just, I can't. [44:59] I can't. [45:00] I can't sit there and be like, hey, you should read a book. [45:02] But what you should not do is ever talk about this again. [45:05] You know what I'm saying? [45:05] Don't talk about this in public. [45:06] All right, hit the run now. [45:07] We got to get to the stuff. [45:08] There's some real stuff to that. [45:09] This isn't, are we there yet for, Ibro? [45:12] We got real news. [45:14] All right, guys. [45:23] This, this was really sad. [45:25] I just saw that Big Ticket was arrested over the weekend on charges related to aggravated battery [45:31] and third degree cruelty to children. [45:34] So Fulton County jail records show that that Tigger was arrested on Saturday. [45:39] He was released the same day after posting bond. [45:42] But according to reports, because I was digging, it's unclear what led to the charges. [45:46] And they're saying that as of right now, they're not sure if they're connected to the accusations [45:51] made by his wife, Alicia Brown. [45:55] You know, as previously we reported, we talked about this on the show. [45:57] Tigger made a statement denying the recent accusations against him. [46:01] So they investigated and now they arrested him? [46:07] Yeah, I don't understand. [46:08] I'm trying to figure out what third degree child endangerment could, what that could cover. [46:14] Yeah. [46:14] Louie, can you look what that even could cover? [46:16] I didn't like understand that. [46:18] So I think Tigger had a kid after me. [46:21] Yes. [46:22] We're talking very young child. [46:24] Yes, yes, yes. [46:25] So I'm trying to understand what that could even mean. [46:28] So while I saw this, I remember because I was talking to King Louie about it. [46:33] I remember seeing headlines where his wife said that she never called him an abuser, that [46:39] it was something that that we made up the audience. [46:42] So look, and I pulled up complex as an article. [46:43] Big Tigger's wife said she never called him an abuser amid domestic dispute investigation. [46:49] I never, excuse me, I never called my husband an abuser. [46:55] Social media has drawn its own conclusions from information that was shared, but those [47:00] conclusions are not statements I have made. [47:03] I respect the legal process and I believe the law enforcement should be allowed to do [47:07] its job. [47:09] So what is Tigger being charged with again? [47:11] Third degree child endangerment, which could include. [47:14] An aggravated battery. [47:14] It could include like failure to provide adequate necessities or supervision that can be included [47:24] in third degree. [47:26] It can involve failing to provide medical care, food, clothing, shelter, or leaving a young [47:32] child unattended in a car or home. [47:36] So it's like abandonment. [47:37] The thing I'm finding super odd about the whole thing is so the initial thing is she posted [47:42] a picture. [47:42] Yeah. [47:43] Where, yo, the picture she posted was so graphic, the first one. [47:46] So it, it literally looked like someone took a baseball to the face. [47:50] I don't know if you saw the photo. [47:52] Oh yeah. [47:52] It was awful, right? [47:53] I was like, oh my God, I don't even know what this to mean. [47:56] Oh, there it is. [47:57] Yeah. [47:58] That original one. [47:58] That looks like literally you got hit with a baseball in your face. [48:02] It's insane. [48:03] So what I've read, and I'm just saying, this is what I've read in blogs is that they were [48:07] tussling over a phone and I don't know if he pushed her, um, but she kind of fell into [48:15] a doorknob, like she was pushed towards a door and it, she hit her head on the doorknob, [48:20] which would create a really bad, that circular, you know what I mean? [48:24] Gash, yeah. [48:25] Gash that she had. [48:26] Like I said, this is just what I read. [48:27] I'm not saying that this is what happened. [48:28] I don't know if it's true. [48:29] So then Tigger went on his morning show, read a statement where A, he made clear that [48:35] him and his co-host did not have anything going on because that was also in the original [48:40] thing. [48:40] And the co-host was very aggressive about denying that. [48:43] And then he basically just read a statement. [48:47] It was a pretty generic statement. [48:49] I believe that the same statement he put out that he read on the air was put out in print [48:53] form also. [48:55] Um, I mean, listen, let's just be real. [48:57] This is super uncomfortable. [48:58] He was my, you know, my first mentor in the, in the, in the business. [49:01] So I have a lot of love for Tigger. [49:03] I, it's a, all of this is shocking to see. [49:08] And I guess we just have to see what comes from it. [49:11] Yeah. [49:11] Yeah. [49:12] Just have to see what the, you know, after police investigations, I guess we'll learn, you [49:15] know, I've been quiet. [49:16] I've been quiet listening to y'all this whole time. [49:17] Cause I still haven't heard any substantiating. [49:20] Well, there's not, this is what, but this is evidence of other than the arrest, right? [49:24] The arrest makes you go, okay, something's here or some, you know? [49:29] Yeah. [49:29] It's, it's confusing. [49:30] Cause you see a picture of a woman who looks like she's been battered horribly. [49:33] She brings up an affair thing, which seems like it's soundly, clearly not true based on everyone's [49:41] responses to it. [49:43] And then you hear her come out and say, I never called him an abuser. [49:46] Yes. [49:46] And then I'm like, what am I, now there's an arrest though. [49:49] And it includes this weird third, third degree child endangerment with the battery, which [49:55] makes you feel like maybe there's a world in which she says we got into a thing and the [50:00] kid was there. [50:01] So it was also endangering to the child. [50:03] That's what I think it was. [50:04] And all of this could be really bad. [50:06] And all of this could be, you know, maybe, maybe it's not what it appears. [50:11] I do not know. [50:12] So yeah, we don't really, I got to tell you guys out there, there's not a huge W for us [50:16] in giving opinions on this, except like reporting it. [50:19] Right. [50:19] Are people giving opinions? [50:21] No, everyone's just as confused as we are because of everything. [50:25] Yeah. [50:25] Yeah. [50:26] But you know that, you know that if you don't address things, if you're like tangentially connected [50:30] to something and you don't have some sort of take on it right away, it can, it can somehow [50:34] be seen as an implicit defense or ignoring of the story. [50:38] So I think it's important. [50:39] We at least bring the story. [50:40] Well, you could, you could say, we don't know what the F is going on. [50:43] We wasn't there and we're waiting for the fact. [50:45] Yeah. [50:46] Yeah. [50:46] Yeah. [50:46] And hopefully you get the facts. [50:48] That's it. [50:49] But I, I don't, I don't think you and Tigger ain't on the, on the text no more. [50:53] You guys ain't just checking in every week since you was his intern back in 19. [50:57] In the late nineties. [50:58] No, but we, but we do check. [50:59] I did. [50:59] I did hear from him, um, a couple of months ago. [51:02] I mean, we do check in every once in a while, obviously. [51:04] I mean, but, but I'm just saying not to the degree you wouldn't know what's going on in [51:08] his house. [51:08] I don't know his partner. [51:09] I don't know his child. [51:11] I don't know. [51:11] No, we are an occasional one. [51:13] I think that's the other piece. [51:14] We say it a lot on this show. [51:16] Like, you know, people at work, I don't know what's going on in your personal life. [51:22] Correct. [51:23] I like your song. [51:24] You came by for some interviews. [51:27] I don't know what you're into privately. [51:31] We took a picture. [51:32] Cause that's a lot. [51:32] Oh, look, here's a picture. [51:33] I'm like, just took a picture. [51:34] We were at an event. [51:35] We took a picture. [51:37] And, and yeah. [51:38] And then relationships are so complicated. [51:42] I, I'm constantly amazed at like the level of maturity you have to gain in life to be [51:48] able to go through real relationships in a, in a good way is a real skill that not a lot [51:57] of people don't have. [51:58] And that's not, that's not a guilty, um, statement on Tigger or anything like that, or [52:03] his partner. [52:03] I'm just saying a lot of people have crazy ish going on. [52:06] I will say that. [52:07] That is a thing that there's a lot of crazy ish going on in romantic relationships. [52:11] That is a fact. [52:12] Yeah. [52:13] Um, the search for Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy Guthrie, it's continues. [52:17] But according to recent reports, a ransom note reportedly alleges that her mother is deceased. [52:23] The story was discussed on the today show. [52:26] You know, Savannah was present. [52:28] Um, and of course she emotionally pleaded for the return of her mother. [52:31] This story is just so wild guys. [52:34] It's like something out of a movie. [52:36] It really, it's, it's, it really is out of like a, a movie with some like complete idiot [52:42] bad guys. [52:43] Yeah. [52:44] Like idiot bad. [52:45] We're like, Oh, we got a plan. [52:47] And then they do this thing thinking it's going to go away and all it is, it's going [52:52] to go a certain way. [52:53] That is. [52:54] And all it goes to is like complete tragedy. [52:57] Like, yeah, it's, you know, they offer, they wanted Bitcoin as a ransom. [53:01] They have a masked man and entering the house, a backpack, a gun. [53:09] And why her mom? [53:12] Like who is she, who is she that you would want to kidnap her mom? [53:20] I mean, why her? [53:21] Yeah. [53:22] Just, just a person who's rich. [53:23] That's what I'm saying. [53:24] It sounds like an, like idiots are like, yo, and what do you mean? [53:28] She's not that rich. [53:32] No, he's saying it on the level of rich. [53:34] Yes. [53:34] Yes. [53:34] But again, back to me saying they're idiots. [53:37] They were like, well, I know the, a famous, I know where a famous lady's mom is. [53:41] She probably has millions of dollars she could give us. [53:45] I'm just trying to figure out what your moronic brain could have been thinking. [53:49] And now you killed this old lady. [53:52] What a, what a horrible, what a horrible thing. [53:55] So the internet and it's, and it's infinite wisdom. [53:58] Uh, the conspiracy is, you know, Savannah Guthrie was interviewing Epstein, um, uh, accusers [54:06] and was really in that rabbit hole. [54:08] That's the internet in its infinite wisdom. [54:10] And was she? [54:11] I mean, she had, she had an interview with the, with the, the women who were like, you [54:16] know, she had them all on the show and like interviewed them. [54:19] And so people on the internet have speculated that that it's tied together in some way. [54:23] Let me ask you a question though. [54:24] If that was the case and the, and the move was, we just, well, okay. [54:30] I was going to say, well, then what would be the point of the ransom notes? [54:33] But if that was just to throw the set in, in this conspiracy theory, that's why I said [54:36] you went, you went to, they're just some Indian bubbling indie idiots, which I would [54:40] think, okay, well, are they? [54:43] Nobody can find anything. [54:46] You mean if they were bubbling idiots, you'd be able to find something. [54:48] Presume. [54:49] Maybe. [54:49] Is it, did I say bubbling or bumbling? [54:51] I meant bumbling. [54:53] Bumbling's correct. [54:53] What did I say? [54:54] What did you say? [54:55] I don't know. [54:57] I'll tell you who's the bumbling idiot. [54:58] All right. [54:59] Okay. [55:00] Another news at Lin-Manuel Miranda's musical warriors will open on Broadway, April, 20, 20. [55:05] I knew it. [55:06] Oh, wow. [55:07] Wow. [55:07] Ebro, you really dug deep on this one. [55:09] You called it right away. [55:11] The moment he came by the show and played the warrior soundtrack on Apple and had the [55:17] whole storybook. [55:18] I said, Lin, I see where this is going. [55:22] He said, I'm not sure. [55:23] I said, I am. [55:24] He said, I'm not. [55:26] And here we are. [55:27] Wow. [55:27] You know it all. [55:29] They call me know it all. [55:32] You would have wanted to find an E word. [55:37] E something that implies you. [55:41] All knowing E, bro. [55:42] There we go. [55:44] But yeah, I mean, it was one of the second I heard it. [55:46] I was like, well, this is a musical. [55:47] Of course. [55:48] Well, yeah, they already did the audio musical. [55:50] Like, you could literally go listen to it on Apple right now. [55:52] No, it's an album. [55:53] Yeah. [55:53] It's been an album for two years now. [55:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [55:55] Yeah, that's the rundown. [55:57] Man. [55:58] There we go. [55:58] Yo, I love it when I'm on to things early. [56:00] Look at you. [56:01] Called it. [56:02] Oh. [56:02] I got a fun guru that I'm late to here. [56:07] We got to get to. [56:08] It is time. [56:09] Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. [56:11] Before the guru just thrive. [56:13] Come on. [56:14] Just thrive probiotics. [56:16] Do you have your. [56:16] Laura, did you take your gummies today? [56:18] I sure did as soon as I walked in. [56:19] Rosenberg, did you take your gummies today? [56:21] Rosenberg? [56:22] Don't slip, Rosenberg. [56:22] Oh, yeah. [56:23] No, no. [56:23] You lying. [56:24] I didn't. [56:24] I didn't. [56:25] I'll take it tomorrow. [56:26] Tomorrow. [56:26] You got to be consistent with your just thrive gummies, man. [56:29] We have them right over here in the studio so that everybody can make sure their gut health [56:33] is on point. [56:34] Now, Laura Stiles, you're the OG probiotic consumer on the program. [56:38] I am. [56:39] It changed my life. [56:40] But what I like about these specific just thrive gummies is like I know I have a couple [56:45] of friends who are like not really good at taking pills. [56:48] Yeah. [56:48] The gummies, they taste good. [56:50] They're easy. [56:51] Just keep them in your purse. [56:53] Keep them in your office. [56:54] Because let me tell you something. [56:55] When your gut is right, your head is right. [56:57] Because I would be walking in here. [56:58] I can't talk, guys. [56:59] My stomach is killing me. [57:00] I don't have to deal with that anymore. [57:01] You know when your energy, people talk about their energy slipping in midday? [57:05] Mm-hmm. [57:07] The word is that's tied to your gut health and your body's ability to process food and [57:12] get the bad stuff out of the body and make sure it's on point. [57:17] And just thrive. [57:18] Go ahead. [57:18] Just Thrive Probiotics can help you with that midday drag. [57:21] You know what I mean? [57:21] Because these aren't just random symptoms. [57:25] So get your Just Thrive Probiotics EL Army. [57:28] Rosenberg, you got the code for the EL Army? [57:30] Oh, are you kidding me? [57:31] I got it all. [57:31] Here's what you want to do, folks. [57:33] You want to start your 90-day risk-free trial at JustThriveHealth.com slash ELR. [57:39] And you save 20% on your first order. [57:41] That's JustThriveHealth.com. [57:43] The promo code is ELR. [57:45] Be your best you with JustThrive. [57:50] Let's get to the gurus. [57:52] Rosenberg, it's all right. [57:53] You know you are a beautiful queen. [57:55] Ebro, don't ever play yourself. [57:57] You're not a guru. [57:58] Breathe in, breathe out. [58:01] The OriginalGurus at gmail.com. [58:04] The OriginalGurus at gmail.com. [58:08] Where the gurus unite. [58:09] Yeah, they do. [58:10] Invite for what's right. [58:11] Ebro, burn the sage. [58:14] Rosenberg, who's writing to us? [58:16] Who needs help? [58:17] A GTA 6 trailer's out today. [58:19] I know people about to lose their marbles. [58:21] What is? [58:22] Tomorrow. [58:22] Grand Theft Auto trailer tomorrow. [58:24] Oh, it's just a trailer. [58:26] Pre-orders. [58:27] You guys are going to need to write the guru because your gamer husbands and friends are [58:32] going to disappear. [58:34] So this is a follow-up, and it's not a question, but I do find it amusing. [58:37] I think we should read it. [58:38] Okay. [58:38] Dear Gurus, thanks for reading my email. [58:42] Peter's an excellent reader for the gurus. [58:44] Thank you. [58:44] I pride myself in my reading. [58:46] My apologies for assuming everyone knows about the lifestyle. [58:51] Oh, lifestyle guy. [58:54] Laura and Peter, you were very confused, yet you seemed interested. [58:59] Wink. [59:00] Here's my version of the lifestyle that I was referring to from experience. [59:05] It's a form of swinging, where there are small communities who engage in safe play, meaning [59:14] sex with one or multiple people, in a party environment, with no judgment, consent only, [59:21] and respectfully. [59:23] Hence the term ethical non-monogamy. [59:28] The participant usually attends these events, and the event totals can range from 20 to 80 [59:35] people. [59:35] The best comment from one of my fellow FOTs was, it is a misrepresentation to think that [59:41] there are no guidelines and that it doesn't matter what you do within the lifestyle. [59:46] There are business owners and mentors who give guidance to participants on how to safely [59:52] engage in play. [59:54] The business owners in these communities host ticketed events while renting homes to invite [59:59] the community. [1:00:01] Inside, each room is supplied with protection and labeled with options for the participants. [1:00:06] Examples can include the body worshiping room, BDSM and rope room, the cuddle room for people [1:00:15] who just want the touch of another, and the put-em-down, smack-em-yack-em rooms. [1:00:21] That would be the lay-em-down, smack-em-yack-em-yack-em. [1:00:23] Yes, she said put-em-down. [1:00:25] In this space, the participants consist of couples, singles, and is also LGBTQ friendly. [1:00:32] Some may say going to a lifestyle event highlights the flaws within a romantic relationship due [1:00:38] to bad communication prior to entry. [1:00:41] Yes, Laura, some couples split from attending a lifestyle event. [1:00:46] And yet, there are successful, happy, 20-plus-year marriages who participate. [1:00:51] Some couples just like to be watched by others. [1:00:53] The beginning of a party is usually a networking mixer with food, drinks, and music. [1:00:58] Keep in mind, during the networking sector, you find yourself submersed. [1:01:02] Is this an advertisement? [1:01:04] What is going on, bro? [1:01:05] Like, why am I hearing the whole brochure right now? [1:01:08] What is happening? [1:01:09] He's just breaking it down. [1:01:10] No, this person is really giving us the whole... [1:01:12] Listen, obviously you're not. [1:01:15] I find myself interested. [1:01:16] Me too. [1:01:17] Tell me more. [1:01:17] I mean, I've heard of it already, so maybe... [1:01:19] I never heard the details. [1:01:21] So, you know, listen, maybe you're part of the lifestyle. [1:01:22] We don't know. [1:01:23] The brochure. [1:01:24] No, the brochure is interesting. [1:01:25] It's a good brochure. [1:01:26] It sounds like they just cut and pasted from the website. [1:01:30] During the networking sector, you find yourself submersed in the mix of highly educated professionals [1:01:34] in many industries. [1:01:35] That's super... [1:01:36] This is from... [1:01:37] That's super... [1:01:38] No, this is a chat GPT, like... [1:01:40] No cameras allowed, by the way. [1:01:42] Oh, here we go with the rules. [1:01:43] Also, the time to share... [1:01:45] It's going to close with emails, contact so-and-so at thelifestyle.com. [1:01:49] This is also the time to share recent test results with potential play partners. [1:01:52] Oh, God. [1:01:53] Come on, man. [1:01:53] When the clock strikes 12. [1:01:55] When the clock strikes 12. [1:01:57] A consent speech is given from the mentor. [1:01:59] Nah, they said... [1:02:00] That is when the ambiance becomes intimate. [1:02:03] Oh, my God. [1:02:05] The reason... [1:02:05] Rosenberg, just sign up for your private time, man. [1:02:06] The fairy sex mother comes and goes... [1:02:08] Listen, I'm just here because they complimented my reading. [1:02:11] The reason it was important for me to address my participation in black and brown lifestyle [1:02:16] spaces is because it is more common to see our counterparts free, expressive, and experienced [1:02:21] in the lifestyle. [1:02:22] For example, there are beautiful mansions in the tri-state area that were purchased solely [1:02:26] to host lifestyle events, and unfortunately, for white people only. [1:02:30] While some communities are mixed, we are also allowed to engage in communities we find attractive, [1:02:35] and my preference is black and brown. [1:02:37] Since the Guru segment needs an ending question after what I described, does the lifestyle still [1:02:43] seem peculiar or intriguing, and why? [1:02:45] See? [1:02:46] Recruitment. [1:02:47] They're trying to recruit. [1:02:49] I mean, thanks for explaining. [1:02:51] I mean, for the most part, I've heard most of this already. [1:02:53] Thanks for explaining. [1:02:55] Would everybody stop asking like you haven't heard these stories or seen a movie or... [1:03:00] It's still pretty far away, though, where to me, I find it interesting to hear. [1:03:04] Yeah, and I was curious to see what her version of the lifestyle was. [1:03:06] When we first heard The Lifestyle, we were confused. [1:03:08] I don't think you were here that day. [1:03:09] When we first heard it, we were like, The Lifestyle. [1:03:12] Uh-huh. [1:03:14] Can you play... [1:03:14] Well, because we're not... [1:03:15] The Lifestyle. [1:03:17] I don't know. [1:03:18] Maybe that's what... [1:03:18] The beginning. [1:03:20] Yo, that might have been what that song was about. [1:03:22] Yeah. [1:03:23] Based on the individuals who participated. [1:03:24] And when he says... [1:03:26] That's about the lay-em-down, smack-a-me-yak-a-mo. [1:03:30] It's code talk. [1:03:30] Yeah. [1:03:31] Now it makes sense. [1:03:32] All right. [1:03:33] So, yeah. [1:03:33] Thanks for explaining. [1:03:34] How about this? [1:03:35] No, I'm not interested for... [1:03:37] I can speak for myself. [1:03:38] Yeah, I'm good. [1:03:39] I have had enough play in my life. [1:03:42] I'm not looking to participate with 80 randos in a mansion with multiple... [1:03:48] I'm just not into that. [1:03:49] Yeah, it's... [1:03:50] I have no judgment for it. [1:03:52] Whatever works for people's long-term relationships. [1:03:55] But the setup of it... [1:03:58] Just being truthful, even if I were in like an experimental, [1:04:01] hey, we should try other things phase of my life, [1:04:03] I don't think it would be a... [1:04:06] We go to a party and it's not for me. [1:04:09] I'd be shy and not... [1:04:10] It's not for me. [1:04:11] I'd be like... [1:04:11] Yeah. [1:04:11] No, thank you. [1:04:12] This is getting strange. [1:04:12] Oh, wait. [1:04:13] He gave the speech. [1:04:14] The lights are going down. [1:04:15] Why are they playing Cupid by 112? [1:04:16] Too much pressure. [1:04:17] Yeah. [1:04:17] What the hell is going on? [1:04:18] Cupid by 112. [1:04:20] What the hell is happening, folks? [1:04:22] Oh, God. [1:04:23] I mean... [1:04:23] Well, like I said, thank you for the explanation. [1:04:25] I appreciate that. [1:04:25] You're going to see the gurus. [1:04:26] Yeah. [1:04:27] Thank you. [1:04:27] Yeah. [1:04:28] Make sure you have a hand sanitizer. [1:04:30] Sanitizer, Laura. [1:04:31] There's sanitizers. [1:04:31] That's why Laura can't participate. [1:04:32] She's a germaphobe. [1:04:34] Yeah. [1:04:35] Don't make fun of me. [1:04:37] Same with this, damn, ma'am. [1:04:38] It'll be like hand sanitizer, ma'am. [1:04:41] What? [1:04:42] Patreon. [1:04:43] New episode on... [1:04:45] Patreon today is pretty interesting. [1:04:47] Yeah. [1:04:48] Yeah. [1:04:49] There's a lot of good stuff on Patreon today. [1:04:50] Good music. [1:04:51] Play some music. [1:04:52] Yeah. [1:04:52] A lot of music. [1:04:53] Play a bunch of music. [1:04:54] A lot of music. [1:04:55] Dive deep on the Dame Dash of it all. [1:04:57] I went left a little bit on the Dame Dash combo. [1:04:59] It needed to be done. [1:05:00] I went left a little bit. [1:05:02] Well, tomorrow's our big... [1:05:04] I don't like it. 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