Committee on Social Justice, Welfare and Rural Development (April 14, 2026)

[8:07] The joint public meeting of the Committees on Social Justice, Welfare and Rural Development, [8:13] Finance and Trade, Commerce and Entrepreneurship is hereby called to order. [8:28] For today's public hearing, the Committees will deliberate on the proposed legislation which seek [8:33] to institutionalize the Sustainable Livelihood Program of the DSWD. At this point, let me [8:41] recognize our Committee Secretary to read into the record the agenda and to acknowledge the [8:47] resource persons in this joint public hearing. [8:50] Komsak, go ahead. [8:53] Good morning, Mr. Chair. [8:55] The Committee on Social Justice, Welfare and Rural Development, together with the Committee [9:01] on Finance, will deliberate on the following proposed legislative measures. [9:08] We have Senate Bill No. 766, an Act Institutionalizing Sustainable Livelihood Program, SLP, of the Department [9:17] of Social Welfare and Development, DSWD, Appropriating Funds Therefore and for Other Purposes, introduced [9:25] by Senator Erwin Titulfo, and Senate Bill No. 787, an Act Institutionalizing the Sustainable [9:32] Livelihood Program and Appropriating Funds Therefore, introduced by Senator Lauren Legarda. [9:40] The Committees would like to acknowledge the following resource persons. [9:43] From the Department of Social Welfare and Development, we have Assistant Secretary Edmund Monteverde [9:52] and Director Marifes Ida Leon. [9:55] Good morning, sir. [9:56] Good morning, ma'am. [9:57] From the Department of Budget and Management, we have Attorney Tricia Baraan. [10:02] Good morning, ma'am. [10:03] From the Department of – from the National Anti-Poverty Commission, we have Officer in [10:14] Charge Director Nolan Banda. [10:17] Good morning, sir. [10:18] From the National Commission on Indigenous Peoples, we have Ms. Glenda Pua. [10:26] Good morning, po. [10:27] From the Philippine Statistics Authority, we have Mr. Ramil Marco Toledo and Ms. Maria Fidesz-Wilma [10:37] Marquez. [10:39] Good morning, sir. [10:40] Good morning, ma'am. [10:41] From the League of Provinces of the Philippines, we have Policy Director Angelica Sanchez. [10:46] Good morning, ma'am. [10:50] From the Samahan and Nagkakaisang Pamilya ng Pantawid Incorporated, we have Vice President [10:56] Ms. Melanie Cervantes. [10:58] Good morning, ma'am. [10:59] And also attending online from the Department of the Interior and Local Government, we have [11:06] Ms. Lucinda de la Peña. [11:10] That is all, Mr. Chair. [11:15] Thank you, Madam Komsek. [11:19] Komsek. [11:21] At this point, let me just read quickly or deliver quickly my opening statement. [11:33] As I call this hearing of the Committee on Social Justice, Welfare and Rural Development [11:41] to order, we turn our focus to a simple but powerful principle that every Filipino deserves [11:50] a real opportunity to make their life better. [11:54] Ang ating pagtalalakay po sa institutionalization and sustainable livelihood program ng DSWD [12:02] ay nakaugat sa paniniwalang ito. [12:06] Hindi sapat na tugunan lamang ang agarang pangangailangan. [12:09] Kailangan natin ang maglatag na malinaw at matibay na landas tungo sa pagunlad. [12:15] Ang mga ayuda po ay pansamantala lamang po yan. [12:21] Pero it is not ikang na iyan po ay band-aid solution lamang po. [12:28] Across the country, we see Filipinos are ready to work, to strive, and to improve their circumstances. [12:35] What they need is not just assistance but opportunity, access to capital, skill training, markets, and sustained support [12:46] that allows them to stand on their own and move forward with confidence. [12:50] Hindi po kakulangan sa sipag o determinasyon. [12:54] Punong-puno po tayo noon lahat ng mga kababayan natin. [12:59] Kadalasan ang kulang po ay pagkakataon. [13:01] Pagkakataong makapagsimula. [13:05] Pagkakataong makabangon mula sa kahirapan. [13:08] Pagkakataong makamit ang mas maayos na kinabukasan para sa kanilang pamilya. [13:13] The sustainable livelihood program of the DSWD has shown that [13:20] when government creates the right condition, our people respond with resilience and determination. [13:27] But without institutional support, these opportunities remain uncertain and uneven. [13:36] Ito po ay hindi lamang programa. [13:38] Ito po ay pangako. [13:41] Pangako na ang bawat Pilipino ay magkakaroon ng pagkakataong baguhin ang takbo ng kanilang buhay [13:46] sa pamagitan ng sariling pagsisikap na sinusuportahan ng isang gobyernong may malasakit. [13:52] We need to institutionalize this program. [13:57] Batit po natin, lahat tayo rito, pag nagpalit po ng administrasyon, pag nagpalit po ng pinuno, [14:05] nababago rin ang mga programa. [14:07] And that is politics and I don't know why. [14:11] And that has been here in existence for quite a while now. [14:15] Programa ni mayor, ito, gobernor, ni sekretary ng pangulo, nabago, iba na naman. [14:24] Eh, unahin nilang natin ito. [14:26] So we have to make sure, and this is the reason why we're meeting right now, [14:29] to make sure na kahit na wala na ho tayo dito, iba na ang pangulo, iba na ang mayor, gobernor, et cetera, [14:38] iba na mga congressman, this program will still be here under the DSWD. [14:43] And as we proceed with this hearing, let us be guided by the shared goal to open more doors, [14:50] to remove barriers, and to empower our people to build better lives themselves. [14:57] Sa ating mga desisyon na kasalala yung kinabukasan po ng maraming pamilyang Pilipino, [15:01] naway maging makabuluhan at makataong ating talakayan ngayong araw na ito. [15:06] Ulitin ko po, hindi po ito simpleng usapin ng paglalaan ng pondo pagbibigay ng ayuda. [15:13] Ito ay tungkol sa pagbibigay ng pangmatagalang solusyon. [15:17] Isang sistema ang magbibigay ng tunay na pagkakataon sa ating mga kababayan na magkakaroon ng matatag at marangal na kabuhayan. [15:26] Hindi po yung dapat asahan lang ang ayuda na pag may problema kaagad na nariyan, may matatakbuhan, may malalapitan. [15:37] Sabi nga, para ikang imabuhay, kailangan turuan po yung mga kababayan natin na mangisda. [15:46] Teach them how to fish. Do not give them fish everyday. [15:50] Ayan din po, isang ayon po sila dyan at gusto po nila nga na matulungan sila. [15:55] Ang problema lamang po talaga sa ating bayan ay wala pong ikang mga programa tulad po nito sa DSWD. [16:02] So, with that, maraming salamat po at magandang araw sa ating lahat. [16:13] We hope we'll have a fruitful exchange of ideas, presentations today, so that we will be able to institutionalize this program. [16:28] And so, we now proceed with the presentation and discussion on Senate Bill number 766 and 787 on the institutionalization of the Sustainable Livelihood Program. [16:49] For the order of presentation, DSWD will present first, followed by DBM, DILG, DOLE, DTI, NAPSI, TESDA, NCIP, PSA, Union of Local Authorities, League of Privacy of the Philippines, [17:07] PEDS, Philippine Institute of Development Studies, Samahanan Kakaisang Pamilya ng Pantawid Incorporated. [17:16] But let me remind everybody, our resource persons today, please limit your presentation to five minutes. [17:23] Please limit. Otherwise, if it's too long, you just have to submit your position paper to us or to this committee. [17:31] Maraming salamat po. Go ahead, DSWD. [17:34] Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have the position paper here, so please allow me to read this. [17:43] Honorable Chairperson, distinguished members of this committee, ladies and gentlemen, a pleasant good morning. [17:50] On behalf of the Department of Social Welfare and Development, under the leadership of Secretary Rex Gachalian, [17:58] It is an honor to address this committee today. In alignment with the President's vision of Bagong Pilipinas that fosters inclusive growth and leaves no family behind, [18:10] we are here to express our strong support for Senate Bills No. 766 and No. 787, which seek to institutionalize the Sustainable Livelihood Program or SLP. [18:25] The mandate of the Department has always been to protect the vulnerable, uplift the marginalized and disadvantage, and provide a clear sustainable pathway out of poverty. [18:39] For years, the Sustainable Livelihood Program has served as one of our most effective mechanisms in fulfilling this mandate. [18:48] To date, SLP has touched and improved the lives of over 4 million Filipino households, which 50 of such is Pantawid Familia Filipino Program. [19:01] These are not just numbers. These are families who have been given the dignity of work, the capacity to build their own small businesses, and hope of a secure future. [19:14] By transforming our beneficiaries from passive recipients to aid to active contributors in the local economies, the SLP directly advances the administration core target of reducing poverty incidents to a single-digit level by 2028. [19:34] The SLP operates a critical as critical bridge in our social protection framework. [19:41] It is particularly vital for beneficiaries who are transitioning out of our graduating from the Pantawid Familia Filipino Program for Peace. [19:54] While the four-piece provides survival and human capital investment, the SLP provides the economic engine. [20:03] Through its two main tracks, micro-enterprise development and employment facilitation track, the program ensures that our beneficiaries do not simply graduate from one social welfare program only to fall back into the graves of poverty when a crisis strikes. [20:24] Instead, we equip them with the capital skills and market linkages necessary to achieve lasting economic stability. [20:32] Institutionalizing these tracks will also mandate a stronger whole-of-government convergence bridging the disability with agencies like DTI, DOLE, DA-TESDA, and among others to provide a comprehensive support system that ensures no graduating family slips through the cracks. [20:56] Mr. Chair, your honor, you might ask, if the program is already successful, why do we need to legislate it? [21:05] First, institutionalizing the SLP align our grassroots intervention directly with the national poverty reduction targets outlining the PDP 2023-2028. [21:17] It provides concrete livelihood assistance as a permanent pillar of our national economic strategy rather than a mere temporary project, empowering our grassroots sectors to build resilient livelihoods that can withstand external economic and environmental shocks. [21:38] Second, a law will secure ongoing and predictable funding for the program. [21:46] The fight against poverty is a long-term commitment. [21:49] By institutionalizing the SLP, we ensure that the capital and operational funds necessary to reach the farthest and most vulnerable communities are insulated from the uncertainties of annual budget ships. [22:07] Third, these effectively transform our budget allocation from short-term relief expenditures into guaranteed high-return investment in the country's human capital and local micro-economies. [22:23] Third, these bills will establish a more robust sustainability framework and enhance transparency in the distribution of grants. [22:32] Third, legislation will provide strict permanent guidelines that promote accountability, ensuring that every peso of the taxpayer's money goes directly toward genuine livelihood development and capacity building. [22:48] In conclusion, the DSWD stands ready to work closely with this committee to refine these measures. [22:56] We firmly believe that the institutionalization of the sustainable livelihood program is not just an administrative upgrade, but a moral imperative. [23:08] It is a declaration that the Philippine government is committed to teaching our poorest citizens how to fish, providing them with a boat and nets, and ensuring they can navigate the waters of our economy independently and successfully. [23:25] With the passage of these bills, we transition from merely managing poverty to decisively eradicating it, moving closer to our collective vision of matatag, mag-inhawa, at panatag na buhay para sa lahat. [23:39] We humbly urge the swift passage of Senate Bills No. 66 and No. 787. [23:47] Thank you, Mr. Chair, and good morning once again to everyone. [23:50] Thank you, ASEC Edmond Monteverde. [23:54] I just have a couple of questions. [23:59] May we know the accomplishments of SLP since it started? [24:04] And then, saman niyo na po diyan kung marami na po ba itong natulungan? [24:11] Lahat po ba na natulungan natin? [24:13] Umangat ng pamumuhay? [24:16] Successful po ba yung binigay natin pera? [24:19] Ginami talaga sa pagninegosyo or winaldas o ginami talaga sa pagninegosyo pero nalugi? [24:27] Ano ang naging problema? [24:30] Kindly submit to this committee updated data on this. [24:34] Now, my next question will be is, bumaba po ang pondo ninyo this year? [24:41] Last year po, sa GAA, it's 6.285 billion. [24:45] Naging 5.305 billion po this year. [24:52] Naka-apekto po ba ito? [24:54] Sa tingin niyo, makaka-apekto po ito? [24:57] Other than, syempre, yung beneficiaries natin, mababawasan din ASEC Monteverde. [25:03] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [25:10] For the first question, the Sustainable Livelihood Program already accomplished and served 4.1 million beneficiaries since 2011 up to date. [25:24] So, of that totality, the SLP program able to monitor 1.2, representing 30% of the 4.1 million and as a result, 78.86% po yung success rate na nakuha namin. [25:46] How many percent? I'm sorry. [25:48] 30% of the total 4.1 million na naserved. [25:53] So, 1.2 million po yung na-monitor namin and 78.86% po yung success rate. [26:00] Oh, 78%. [26:02] Apa? [26:02] Yung remaining percentage po, ano nangyari? [26:05] Nalugi o hindi dinala, hindi ginawang kapital? [26:10] Meron pong, Mr. Chair, mga several factors that are affecting the success of the projects. [26:16] Number one, yung kapag tinamaan po sila ng mga natural calamities. [26:21] Isa po yan at marami po yan, very perennial po yan sa implementation nationwide. [26:26] Second, yung mistrust dun sa among the members. [26:31] Isa rin po yan. [26:32] Lalo na kapag nakita po namin dito, na-observe namin na kapag dumating yung second year of implementation, [26:39] kung saan mas nagkakaroon ng malaking income yung isang organization, [26:45] dun po nagkakaroon ng interest. [26:48] Kumaga there are mistrust due to vested interest. [26:53] So, yun po yung ina-address ng aming organizational development tools na ginagamit sa ngayon. [26:58] Then, yung pangatlo po is yung may mga instances po na pagkabigay ng pera, [27:05] ito yung lumipat sila ng tirahan at nawala na po. [27:11] So, pero ang may pinakalaking representation po ng failure talaga ay yung disaster, [27:17] yung mga natural calamities. [27:20] So, meron po kami, Mr. Chair, na ginawa na bagong guidelines. [27:23] This is MC03. [27:25] We're in addressing all those affected by the natural calamities na kung saan we will refinance. [27:33] Kapag ka napatunayan na ang operation ng SLPA ay maganda at kumikita, [27:39] pero nagkataong tinamaan siya ng bagyo, [27:43] so we will refinance the equivalent amount being funded prior doon sa calamities [27:48] so that they can start another business or yung existing business nila. [27:53] So, yun po yung ginagawa namin sa ngayon. [27:55] Alright. [27:57] Tama po ba ang pagkarinig ko po out of the 4.1 million, [28:01] 1.2 million lang po ang namonitor ninyo or you're saying success rate? [28:06] 1.2 million lang po yung namonitor. [28:10] Bakit po 1.2 million lang out of the 4.1? [28:14] Yes, Mr. Chair. [28:16] No, unang-una po, we have lack of administrative costs to hire our monitoring project development officer. [28:25] This monitoring project development officer hired po na sila yung bumababa sa municipal level to monitor talaga. [28:34] Pero given the limitations on the admin, [28:38] so kakaunti lang po yung na-hire with 240 project caseload na hindi talaga kayang i-cover yung total na 4.1 million na naserve. [28:49] Di po ba doon po sa 15,000, ang usual pinamimigay natin, di po ba na sa SLP, inaalisan niyo po ng administrative costs? [28:59] Tama po ba? [29:00] Or wala ng administrative costs? [29:01] Binibigay niyo lang po na kung magkano yung 15,000? [29:06] Hindi po siya, Mr. Chair, kasama doon sa 15,000. [29:11] The 15,000, now is 20 na eh, tinaas na po namin, 20,000, grant na po talaga yun to be received by the beneficiaries. [29:19] Hindi po siya, hindi kayo nagbabawas ng administrative costs. [29:23] Bakit po? Bakit? [29:25] Doon po sa total budget. [29:28] Kasi sinasabi niyo, because may problema kayo sa administrative costing, di ba? [29:34] Kulang ng tao. [29:35] Bakit hindi pwede ibawas na lang po dito? [29:37] Total grant naman po yan. [29:39] Nakahiwalay po kasi talaga yung pasweldo sa mga tao, Mr. Chair. [29:45] Under the MOE, meron talaga yung specific na grants at meron talaga din sa administrative costs. [29:51] So yun po. [29:52] Currently, the program has an allocation of 16% administrative costs. [29:57] So given na hindi po siya one-time, hindi siya ayuda, meron siyang binabalikan. [30:03] Kumbaga, we need to monitor on a three-year incubation period [30:07] to ensure the sustainability of the enterprise established by the association. [30:13] Panghuli na lamang po, di ba usually ito po yung ginagamit para sa exit, [30:19] pag nag-exit po ang mga nasa four-piece, [30:22] pero hindi naman po lahat ng four-piece binabibigyan po ng SLP. [30:27] Ito po talaga sana yung tinitingnan kasi nasa four-piece law po ito, [30:36] yung referral to the SWD livelihood program. [30:39] However, since medyo maliit po yung allocation niya compared dun sa exiting four-piece, [30:49] and even yung nasa level two, yung subsistence level po na tinatawag, [30:53] ito sana yung tinatarget namin before makapunta sana si four-piece beneficiary dun sa level three na self-sufficiency. [31:01] So dito po, disrepresent, currently kung hindi po ako nagkakamali, [31:04] it's around 1.4 million na yung nasa level two ng four-piece. [31:10] At out of this po, ngayong 2026, [31:12] ang kaya lang namin itarget dito is around 15,000, [31:20] which is wala pa siya sa 1% o 0.05% ng supposedly dapat natatarget na po ng SLP [31:29] because of the limited funds po talaga. [31:32] All right, I will ask later on further questions. [31:38] But anyway, thank you, DSWD. [31:41] Who's next to present, Comsec? [31:43] Next to present is the DTI, DTI on left side. [31:49] All right. [31:50] Good morning, Mr. Chair. [31:51] I have no presentation, [31:53] but we would like to express our strong support [31:56] for the passage of the Senate Bills 766 and 787, [32:03] which seeks to institutionalize the Sustainable Livelihood Program [32:06] as a key mechanism for poverty reduction and inclusive growth. [32:10] DTI recognizes the SLP complements its mandate [32:15] in developing micro, small, and medium enterprises [32:17] and empowering Filipinos through entrepreneurship and employment. [32:22] The proposed measures will significantly strengthen efforts [32:27] to transition beneficiaries from social protection [32:29] to sustainable income-generating activities. [32:33] To support the effective implementation of SLP, [32:37] the DTI stands ready to align its programs, [32:39] including the Negotio Center, Business Advisory and Registration, [32:44] and Kapatid Mentor Me program, [32:47] the Small and Medium Enterprise Roving Academy [32:49] for entrepreneurship training, [32:52] shared service facilities for production support, [32:55] the One Town, One product, [32:56] and various trade fairs for programs [32:59] that will access market for our SLP graduates. [33:03] In addition, DTI's Pondo sa Pagbabago at Pag-Ascenso [33:06] or your P3 program [33:08] can also provide accessible financing [33:11] to help SLP beneficiaries. [33:13] We also have a program, [33:15] the PPG, [33:16] Pangkabuhayan para sa Pagbago at Kinhawa, [33:19] which provides for around $80 million this year [33:22] for beneficiaries also. [33:24] So, with that, sir, [33:26] we strongly support the passage of the measures. [33:30] Thank you so much, sir. [33:31] All right. [33:32] Thank you, Assistant Director Salonga. [33:37] Yes, Mr. Chair. [33:39] The next speaker will be [33:40] the National Anti-Poverty Commission. [33:46] Thank you, ma'am. [33:47] Mr. Chair, magandang umaga po. [33:49] Magandang umaga. [33:51] May read the position paper of the NAPSI. [33:54] Sige po. [33:55] The National Anti-Poverty Commission [33:57] expresses its strong and qualified support [34:02] for Senate Beers 766 and 787, [34:07] recognizing their critical role [34:10] in advancing inclusive and poverty [34:12] in social development objectives. [34:16] Mr. Chair, [34:17] the 14 sectors recognize [34:19] and unionize on [34:21] to the substantial impact of SLP [34:24] to each and every sector. [34:26] Yet, they are equally at fear [34:30] that by chains of administration, [34:33] the SLP might be at risk of losing. [34:38] But by the proposed bills, [34:41] once it becomes a law, [34:44] such fear will be addressed [34:47] and be given a stamp of finality. [34:52] Mr. Chair, [34:52] on behalf of NAPSI, [34:55] we express our sincerest accusations [34:57] to your legislative initiative. [34:59] With the permission of the Chair, [35:04] we will just want to [35:05] read the NAPSI recommendations. [35:10] In light of the foregoing analysis, [35:12] the NAPSI, [35:13] Hervé recommends the options [35:15] of the following measures. [35:17] Number one, [35:18] NAPSI recommends [35:19] consolidating the beneficiary provisions [35:22] of both bills [35:24] to ensure the broadest [35:26] and most equitable coverage. [35:29] Senate Bill No. 787 [35:31] clearly provides [35:33] more comprehensive eligibility architecture [35:36] which includes [35:37] disaster-affected communities, [35:41] walk-in clients, [35:42] and re-entry [35:43] of previously-deserved participants. [35:46] Equally, [35:48] Senate Bill No. 766 [35:49] explicitly names [35:52] priority vulnerable sectors. [35:55] Together, [35:55] they will form [35:56] a complete framework [35:57] that aligns [35:58] with NAPSI's sectoral approach [36:00] to poverty elevations. [36:02] Second, [36:03] NAPSI strongly advocates [36:05] that local government units [36:07] be mandated [36:08] to integrate [36:09] the sustainable [36:10] livelihood program [36:11] into their local development plan [36:14] and annual investment program. [36:18] LGUs [36:18] should be encouraged [36:19] to designate [36:20] a livelihood [36:22] focal person [36:23] to ensure [36:24] efficient program delivery [36:26] and seamless [36:27] data sharing [36:28] under established [36:29] privacy protocols. [36:32] Number three, [36:33] NAPSI recommends [36:34] explicitly [36:35] prioritizing support [36:37] for green livelihoods [36:39] and artisanal industries. [36:40] This includes [36:42] climate resilience [36:43] farming, [36:45] circular economy initiatives, [36:48] and the preservations [36:49] of indigenous crops [36:50] all aligned [36:51] with the sustainable [36:52] development goals. [36:55] Fourth, [36:56] NAPSI orders [36:57] the ZENIC [36:58] to consolidate [36:58] Senate Bill 787 [37:00] and Senate Bill 766 [37:03] into a single, [37:05] comprehensive, [37:06] sustainable, [37:07] livelihood program act [37:08] which draws [37:09] on stronger provisions [37:11] of each. [37:11] The institute [37:13] to [37:15] analysis [37:16] of SLP [37:17] is not merely [37:17] a programmatic [37:20] decision [37:20] but a redeclaration [37:22] of the state [37:23] that the dignity [37:24] of the poor [37:25] is a permanent [37:26] legislative priority, [37:29] not a transient [37:30] executive preference. [37:33] NAPSI [37:33] stands ready [37:35] to provide [37:35] technical inputs [37:36] called [37:38] sectoral consultations [37:40] in legislative support [37:42] throughout the [37:43] committee deliberation process. [37:45] And lastly, [37:46] Mr. Chair, [37:47] NAPSI recommends [37:48] the participation [37:50] of the sectors [37:51] in program design, [37:53] implementations, [37:54] and monitoring. [37:56] While the bills [37:57] recognize [37:57] the sectors [37:58] as beneficiaries, [38:00] they currently [38:01] fall short [38:02] in this area, [38:04] creating a gap [38:05] between service delivery [38:07] and participatory [38:08] governance [38:09] which is central [38:10] to NAPSI Monday. [38:12] Salamat po, [38:12] Mr. Chair. [38:13] All right, [38:14] thank you. [38:15] Your recommendations [38:16] can kindly [38:17] submit it [38:18] to this committee [38:19] so that we can [38:20] review it [38:22] and take a closer look. [38:23] All right, [38:24] thank you, [38:25] Director Banda. [38:26] Come sec. [38:28] Yes, Mr. Chair. [38:29] Our next speaker [38:30] is from the [38:31] Technical Education [38:32] and Skills Development [38:34] Authority, [38:35] Ms. Carla Salvo. [38:39] Good morning, [38:39] Mr. Chair. [38:41] Foremost, [38:42] what does that [38:42] express its support [38:43] for the above-mentioned bills? [38:45] TESTA recognizes [38:46] the importance [38:47] of strengthening [38:49] initiatives [38:50] at poverty alleviation, [38:52] employment generation, [38:54] and promotion [38:55] of sustainable [38:56] livelihoods, [38:56] particularly for the [38:57] marginalized [38:58] and vulnerable sectors. [39:00] We already have [39:00] a long-standing [39:01] partnership [39:02] with the SWD, [39:03] even with the SLP. [39:05] So we, [39:06] together with [39:07] the Four Peace Program, [39:09] we have been [39:10] training, [39:11] providing skills training [39:12] for the Four Peace [39:14] beneficiaries [39:14] and under the SLP [39:15] for the past years. [39:19] And in fact, [39:20] we already have a new, [39:22] we have renewed [39:23] our MOA partnership. [39:27] Thank you very much, [39:28] Mr. [39:29] All right, [39:29] Ms. Carla. [39:31] My question is, [39:33] other than teaching them, [39:35] alam ko po na [39:36] bago po sila [39:38] bigyan ng pondo, [39:39] ay kailangan mo nila [39:40] mag-undergo [39:41] ng training, [39:42] di ba? [39:42] How to run a business [39:43] o kung saan sila [39:44] mag-i-invest. [39:46] But, [39:46] do they also [39:47] undergo training [39:49] yung ikang [39:49] business management [39:51] para they know [39:52] how to run it? [39:53] Kasi okay, [39:54] yung iba, [39:55] di ba? [39:55] Tasabihin, [39:56] yung kooperativa, [39:58] cooking, [39:59] gagawa ng parang [40:00] maliit na [40:01] karinderiya, [40:02] kainan, [40:03] etc. [40:04] But then again, [40:05] what about the training [40:07] to how to run [40:08] the business, [40:09] how to manage it? [40:10] Meron din po bang [40:11] ganun? [40:11] Do they undergo [40:12] this kind of training? [40:15] O po, [40:15] Mr. Chair. [40:17] Although we have [40:18] different kinds of [40:19] scholarship, [40:20] different kinds of [40:21] training nga po, [40:22] we made sure po [40:24] na embedded naman po [40:25] sa ating [40:26] competencies po [40:29] yung [40:29] entrepreneurship [40:31] skills. [40:32] Although [40:32] we recently po, [40:36] under the guidance [40:37] po of the [40:38] Secretary Kiko Benitez, [40:40] we are planning to [40:41] strengthen it further [40:42] by separating [40:44] entrepreneurship [40:45] skills po [40:46] as a separate [40:46] modality po [40:48] for the [40:49] scholarship program. [40:50] So parang ka po [40:50] pala kasi yun. [40:51] So while [40:52] DTS, [40:53] DTI has their own [40:54] training programs [40:56] po for [40:57] entrepreneurship [40:57] and MSME [40:59] training. [40:59] So for the [41:00] TESTA po, [41:01] since it goes [41:02] both ways, [41:02] either mag-wage [41:03] employment sila [41:04] or mag-self [41:05] employment, [41:06] we give them [41:06] options po para [41:08] makapili po sila, [41:09] by giving them [41:10] both kinds of [41:11] competencies. [41:11] All right. [41:14] Before we go to our [41:16] next resource [41:17] person, [41:19] Asak Monteverde, [41:20] can you explain to us, [41:21] for example, [41:22] pag binigyan, [41:23] may beneficiary, [41:24] may payout, [41:25] diba? [41:26] Sino po [41:26] namimili, [41:27] kung ano [41:28] negosyo, [41:28] at kung ano [41:29] ang mabubuhay [41:30] sa community [41:31] na yan [41:31] na negosyo? [41:32] Are you the [41:32] one who [41:33] identify it? [41:34] Or you [41:35] let these [41:36] people, [41:36] these [41:36] cooperative, [41:38] kung may [41:38] cooperative [41:39] man, [41:40] kung ano [41:40] ang negosyo [41:41] nila? [41:41] How does [41:42] it work? [41:43] Can you walk [41:44] us through? [41:45] Thank you, [41:46] Mr. Chair. [41:47] We operate [41:48] on the principle [41:49] on build [41:50] on what [41:50] they have. [41:51] Meaning, [41:52] kung ito yung [41:53] livelihood na po [41:54] nila ngayon, [41:54] for example, [41:55] mga farmers po [41:56] ito, [41:57] yung tinitingnan [41:58] natin dito [41:59] is yung [41:59] technical [41:59] advancement. [42:01] Alimba, [42:01] mga [42:02] manging isda [42:03] sila, [42:04] kapagka [42:04] nanguli sila [42:05] ng isda, [42:05] currently, [42:06] before the [42:07] SLP [42:07] pumunta, [42:09] pag nanguli [42:10] sila ng isda, [42:10] binibenta [42:11] agad yung [42:12] isda. [42:13] So, [42:13] tinuturoan po [42:14] sila rito [42:15] kung paano [42:15] natin pwedeng [42:17] i-drive yung [42:18] isda, [42:18] i-vacumize [42:19] para mas mahaba [42:20] yung maging [42:21] shelf life niya [42:22] pero kailangan, [42:23] definitely, [42:24] kailangan na [42:24] machine. [42:25] Kailangan na, [42:25] so we engage [42:27] other [42:27] national government [42:29] agencies [42:30] to come in [42:30] to provide [42:31] yung mga ganon. [42:32] Same with the [42:33] training, [42:33] tama po yun, [42:34] yung sa TESDA, [42:35] meron kaming [42:35] partnership [42:36] sa kanila [42:37] para maituro [42:38] paano pinoproseso [42:40] yung mga ganito. [42:41] So, [42:41] sila po [42:42] ang nag-a-identify [42:43] talaga nito. [42:43] Tapos, [42:44] we do the monitoring [42:45] every quarter [42:45] for three years [42:46] to ensure [42:47] the sustainability. [42:49] At doon po kami, [42:50] I admit, [42:51] na doon kami [42:52] nagkukulang sa ngayon [42:53] pagdating doon [42:53] sa monitoring. [42:54] Alright, [42:55] kaya ako po [42:55] natanong yan [42:56] kasi yung mga [42:58] residente po [42:59] sa municipality [42:59] of Kalayaan [43:00] sa Pag-asa [43:01] wherein I went [43:03] there last week, [43:04] wala pong [43:05] kinamubuhay. [43:06] Ang karamihan, [43:07] parang [43:08] sustentado [43:09] ng gobyerno, [43:10] pinapaaral, [43:11] etc. [43:11] Yung iba pa naman [43:12] namubuhay [43:13] sa pamagitan ng [43:14] puro mga [43:15] andaming [43:15] sarisari store, [43:16] hiwahiwalay. [43:18] Puro sarisari store, [43:20] puro [43:20] iba-iba [43:21] negosyo. [43:22] Yung lugar ba [43:25] na yun po [43:25] pwedeng lagyan [43:26] ng SLP [43:27] para ika nga [43:28] bumuo sila [43:29] ng kooperativa [43:30] and I believe [43:31] there are only [43:31] 80 households [43:33] there eh. [43:33] Kung babaya [43:34] bibigyan yun [43:35] ng SLP [43:36] kasi ang kulang [43:37] nila doon [43:37] it's just [43:38] a small island. [43:39] Ang nakikita [43:40] ng ilan, [43:41] sabi ng mayor, [43:42] pwede pong [43:42] gawin namin [43:43] na isang [43:43] malaking tindahan [43:44] parang [43:45] trading outpost [43:46] dito na po [43:47] bumili [43:48] buong community [43:49] kumpleto na [43:51] may mga gamit [43:52] po sa bahay, [43:52] may gamit [43:53] ng mga bata [43:54] etc. [43:55] Para [43:55] hindi na [43:56] punta [43:57] ng punta [43:57] o para [43:58] mga sarisari [43:58] store talagang [43:59] medyo malaki [44:00] na. [44:01] So [44:01] doon [44:03] ba [44:03] yung [44:04] recommendation [44:05] na beneficiaries [44:07] yun po [44:07] ba [44:08] pinapakinggan [44:08] ninyo? [44:09] Yes, [44:11] Mr. Chair. [44:12] Pero [44:12] kapag [44:13] nakikita [44:14] ng aming [44:15] project [44:15] development [44:16] officer [44:16] kasi meron [44:17] tayong [44:17] mga [44:17] project [44:18] development [44:18] officers [44:19] sa baba [44:19] na [44:20] train [44:20] po sila [44:21] tapos [44:22] mga [44:22] business [44:22] course [44:23] graduate [44:24] po ito [44:24] pinapakita [44:26] yung mga [44:27] different [44:27] types [44:30] of livelihood [44:31] na pwede [44:31] sila [44:32] mag-engage [44:32] pero yung [44:33] nabanggit [44:34] nyo po [44:34] na it's [44:34] an [44:34] island [44:35] tapos [44:35] parang [44:36] community [44:36] store [44:36] yung gusto [44:37] natin [44:37] mangyari [44:38] dito [44:38] possible [44:39] po yun. [44:40] So [44:40] kapag [44:40] yun po [44:41] yung [44:41] lumabas [44:41] din sa [44:42] recommendation [44:42] ng mga [44:43] beneficiaries [44:43] given [44:44] na may [44:44] mga [44:45] isa-isa [44:47] na silang [44:48] store [44:48] dun [44:48] then [44:48] consolidate [44:49] the [44:50] individual [44:51] stores [44:51] para [44:51] maging [44:52] community [44:52] store [44:53] dun po [44:53] sila [44:54] tuturuan [44:54] ngayon [44:55] ng ating [44:55] workers [44:57] at [44:58] ng [44:58] other [44:58] government [44:59] agency [45:00] how to [45:00] run [45:01] a [45:01] community [45:01] store [45:02] pwede [45:02] po yun [45:04] ma'am [45:05] salvo [45:06] kung kagaya [45:08] niyan [45:08] sa small [45:09] island [45:09] kagaya [45:09] ng [45:10] kalayaan [45:10] municipality [45:11] 80 [45:11] households [45:12] so [45:13] kung lahat [45:13] po sila [45:14] beneficiary [45:14] at [45:15] tatay silang [45:15] community [45:16] store [45:16] lahat [45:17] po sila [45:17] do they [45:17] have to [45:18] undergo [45:18] training [45:19] sa [45:19] test [45:19] on [45:19] how to [45:20] run [45:20] a [45:21] store [45:21] or [45:22] hindi [45:23] ilan [45:23] lang [45:24] sa [45:24] kanila [45:24] papano [45:25] ito [45:26] nasa [45:26] isla [45:26] sila [45:27] pupunta [45:28] ba [45:28] sila [45:28] pupuntahan [45:29] nyo [45:29] sila [45:29] doon [45:30] para [45:30] mag [45:30] seminar [45:31] pupunta [45:32] sila [45:33] how does [45:34] it work [45:34] or how [45:35] will [45:35] it [45:35] work [45:35] honestly [45:37] Mr. [45:37] Chair [45:38] I do [45:38] not [45:38] have [45:38] the [45:38] data [45:39] right [45:39] now [45:39] po [45:39] if [45:40] we [45:40] have [45:41] interventions [45:42] po [45:43] sa [45:43] kalayaan [45:43] group [45:44] of [45:44] islands [45:45] pero [45:46] we [45:46] will [45:46] check [45:47] po [45:47] pero [45:47] supposedly [45:47] po [45:48] we [45:48] have [45:48] different [45:48] kinds [45:49] of [45:49] modalities [45:49] para [45:50] po [45:50] ma-reach [45:50] kahit [45:51] po [45:51] yung [45:51] mga [45:51] malalayo [45:51] po [45:51] talaga [45:52] yung [45:52] mga [45:52] gidas [45:53] meron [45:53] po [45:53] tayo [45:54] mga [45:54] mobile [45:55] training [45:56] programs [45:59] na [46:05] yung [46:05] lugar [46:05] para [46:05] mag [46:06] conduct [46:06] po [46:06] ng [46:07] training [46:07] and [46:08] they [46:08] undergo [46:08] naman [46:09] po [46:09] either [46:10] dadaan [46:11] po [46:11] sa [46:11] peso [46:11] o [46:12] sa [46:12] CITEC [46:12] ano [46:13] ba [46:13] ang [46:13] kailangan [46:14] nyo [46:14] so [46:15] depende [46:16] po [46:16] sa [46:16] sasabihin [46:17] po [46:17] at [46:18] siyempre [46:18] po [46:18] yung [46:18] pangkailangan [46:19] din po [46:19] sa [46:19] paligid [46:20] yung [46:21] skills [46:21] needs [46:21] po [46:21] sa [46:22] area [46:23] po [46:23] kung [46:23] ano [46:23] po [46:24] yung [46:24] narapat [46:24] po [46:24] at [46:25] maganda [46:25] po [46:25] training [46:26] po [46:27] sa [46:27] kanya [46:27] so [46:28] the [46:31] same [46:31] din po [46:31] na [46:31] sabi [46:31] po [46:31] kung [46:32] kailangan [46:32] po [46:32] na [46:32] entrepreneurship [46:33] training [46:34] may [46:35] mga [46:37] scholarship [46:37] programs [46:38] po [46:38] na [46:38] may [46:38] kaakibat [46:40] pong [46:40] entrepreneurship [46:41] training [46:42] po [46:42] all right [46:43] thank you [46:43] very much [46:44] miss [46:44] salvo [46:45] komsek [46:46] yes [46:47] mr. [46:47] chair [46:47] our next [46:48] speaker [46:48] is from [46:49] the [46:49] national [46:49] commission [46:50] on [46:50] indigenous [46:51] peoples [46:52] miss [46:53] glenda [46:53] thank you [46:55] mr. [46:55] chair [46:56] thank you [46:56] committee [46:56] secretary [46:57] thank you [46:58] very [46:58] much [46:58] for [46:58] inviting [46:59] us [46:59] here [46:59] the [47:00] ncip [47:00] expresses [47:02] its [47:02] support [47:03] for [47:03] the [47:03] passage [47:04] of [47:04] senate [47:04] bill [47:05] 766 [47:05] and [47:06] 787 [47:06] on [47:07] the [47:08] proposed [47:08] bill [47:08] that [47:08] seeks [47:09] to [47:09] institutionalize [47:10] the [47:10] sustainable [47:10] livelihood [47:11] program [47:12] of the [47:12] dswd [47:13] to [47:13] appropriate [47:14] faster [47:14] for [47:14] and [47:15] for [47:15] other [47:15] purposes [47:16] mr. [47:16] chair [47:17] please [47:17] be [47:17] sure [47:17] that [47:18] the [47:18] ncip [47:18] position [47:19] paper [47:19] will [47:19] be [47:19] submitted [47:20] to [47:20] the [47:20] committee [47:20] for [47:21] consideration [47:22] thank you [47:22] very [47:22] much [47:23] mr. [47:23] chair [47:23] mr. [47:25] would [47:26] you [47:26] happen [47:26] to [47:26] know [47:27] or [47:27] may [47:28] mga [47:28] records [47:28] po [47:28] ba [47:29] kayo [47:29] na [47:30] may [47:31] mga [47:31] member [47:32] na po [47:32] tayo [47:33] ng [47:33] indigenous [47:33] group [47:35] or [47:36] people [47:36] na [47:37] beneficiaries [47:38] po [47:38] nitong [47:39] SLP [47:40] na ito [47:41] do you [47:41] have [47:41] yes mr. [47:42] chair [47:42] we do [47:43] have [47:43] indigenous [47:44] peoples [47:45] group [47:45] who are [47:45] already [47:46] benefiting [47:46] from [47:47] the [47:47] program [47:48] in fact [47:48] with [47:49] director [47:50] the office [47:50] of [47:50] director [47:51] marife [47:51] and [47:51] our [47:52] office [47:52] is [47:53] ongoing [47:53] with [47:53] ongoing [47:54] collaboration [47:55] po [47:55] namin [47:55] we [47:56] will [47:56] collab [47:57] with [47:57] the [47:57] creation [47:58] of [47:59] sustainable [47:59] livelihood [47:59] programs [48:00] for [48:00] indigenous [48:01] peoples [48:01] depending [48:02] on [48:02] their [48:02] cultures [48:03] and [48:03] practices [48:04] on [48:05] the [48:05] livelihood [48:05] practices [48:06] in [48:06] farming [48:07] and [48:07] agriculture [48:07] and [48:08] ecotourism [48:09] Mr. [48:09] chair [48:09] how is [48:10] it [48:10] how is [48:12] their [48:13] business [48:14] how is [48:15] their [48:15] business [48:15] what's [48:20] going [48:20] on [48:21] Mr. [48:21] Chair [48:22] for [48:22] now [48:22] we [48:23] are [48:23] still [48:23] on [48:23] the [48:23] process [48:24] on [48:24] discussing [48:24] on [48:25] the [48:25] data [48:25] sharing [48:25] with [48:26] SLP [48:26] we [48:27] do [48:27] not [48:27] have [48:27] yet [48:27] the [48:28] copy [48:28] and [48:30] in [48:30] terms [48:31] of [48:31] the [48:31] status [48:32] of [48:32] their [48:32] SLPs [48:33] what [48:33] we [48:34] do [48:34] know [48:34] at [48:34] our [48:35] level [48:35] is [48:35] knowledge [48:36] that [48:37] some [48:37] of [48:37] the [48:37] indigenous [48:38] groups [48:38] are [48:39] taking [48:39] help [48:40] from [48:40] the [48:40] SLP [48:42] DSWD [48:44] but [48:45] as [48:45] to [48:45] the [48:45] data [48:45] we [48:46] are [48:46] still [48:46] ongoing [48:46] discussion [48:47] with [48:47] the [48:48] SLP [48:50] on the [48:51] impact [48:51] of [48:51] SLP [48:52] and the [48:52] indigenous [48:53] people [48:53] spot [48:53] Thank [48:54] you [48:54] Ms. [48:55] Pua [48:55] Asik [48:56] Monteverde [48:57] would [48:57] you [48:57] happen [48:58] to [48:58] know [48:59] or [48:59] do [48:59] you [48:59] have [49:00] the [49:00] figures [49:00] ilang [49:01] mga [49:03] katutubo [49:04] na [49:04] at [49:05] grupo [49:06] ang [49:06] nabihayaan [49:07] itong [49:08] SLP [49:08] Thank you [49:10] Mr. [49:10] Chair [49:10] As [49:11] of [49:11] date [49:11] we [49:12] have [49:12] served [49:12] 138,402 [49:15] IPs [49:17] po [49:17] pero [49:18] yung [49:18] as [49:19] to [49:19] how [49:19] many [49:20] of the [49:20] business [49:20] are [49:20] still [49:21] in [49:21] operations [49:22] yun [49:23] po [49:23] yung [49:23] babalikan [49:24] namin [49:24] para [49:25] makita [49:26] namin [49:26] kung [49:27] ilan [49:27] po [49:27] doon [49:27] sa [49:28] 138,402 [49:30] IPs [49:32] ang [49:32] existing [49:33] pa rin [49:34] yung [49:34] kanilang [49:34] negosyo [49:36] kailangan [49:37] po [49:37] kasi [49:37] masasayang [49:38] lang [49:39] magbibigay [49:40] tayo [49:41] ng [49:41] SLP [49:41] sa [49:41] kanila [49:42] kung [49:42] hindi [49:42] naman [49:42] natin [49:43] namomonitor [49:44] na [49:44] successful [49:45] ba [49:45] siguro [49:46] I'm [49:46] sure [49:47] they [49:47] undergo [49:47] training [49:48] also [49:48] Ms. [49:49] Carla [49:50] do they [49:50] undergo [49:50] training [49:51] itong [49:51] mga [49:51] katutubo [49:52] mga [49:53] IPs [49:53] pag [49:53] binigyan [49:54] sila [49:54] ng [49:54] SLP [49:55] Yes [49:56] po [49:56] we [49:56] have [49:57] we [49:57] consider [49:58] IPs [49:59] as part [50:00] of our [50:00] special [50:01] clients [50:02] po [50:02] kaya [50:02] may special [50:03] consideration [50:04] po [50:04] ang mga [50:04] IPs [50:05] but I [50:06] need [50:07] Asik [50:08] Monteverde [50:08] as you [50:08] submit [50:09] to us [50:09] the [50:10] ikang [50:11] list [50:12] or [50:12] report [50:13] to this [50:14] committee [50:15] kung [50:15] kumusta [50:16] na po [50:16] yung [50:16] mga [50:17] nabigyan [50:17] po [50:17] natin [50:18] ng mga [50:18] katutubo [50:19] they [50:20] really [50:20] need [50:21] this [50:21] dapat [50:21] siguro [50:22] sila [50:22] pong [50:22] unahin [50:23] natin [50:23] na mabigyan [50:23] ng mga [50:24] gano'n [50:24] mga [50:24] sustainable [50:25] livelihood [50:26] because [50:26] marunong magtanim [50:28] pero walang [50:28] mga gamit [50:29] yun [50:30] ang [50:30] nagiging [50:30] problem [50:31] po [50:31] kaya [50:32] hindi [50:32] po [50:33] umangat [50:33] kaya [50:34] siguro [50:34] yung [50:35] mga [50:35] badjaw [50:36] nandito [50:36] sa Metro [50:37] Manila [50:37] namamalimos [50:38] kasi [50:38] walang [50:38] pinagkakitaan [50:40] umaasa [50:40] po sila [50:41] sa [50:41] dole [50:41] out [50:42] dila [50:42] po [50:42] yung [50:42] mga [50:42] badjaw [50:43] pati [50:43] po [50:43] yung [50:44] mga [50:45] central [50:48] Luzon [50:48] na [50:48] mga [50:49] ITAS [50:50] po [50:51] nakikita [50:52] nyo [50:52] dyan [50:52] palakalat [50:53] pero [50:53] siguro [50:54] give [50:54] them [50:56] tools [50:56] siguro [50:57] give [50:57] them [50:57] capital [50:58] palagi [50:59] siguro [51:00] they will [51:02] be able [51:03] to stand [51:04] on their [51:04] own [51:04] feet [51:04] rather than [51:06] mamalimos [51:06] din sa [51:07] kalsada [51:07] pagdating [51:09] ng Pasko [51:09] makikita [51:10] mo [51:10] ngayon [51:10] dalawang [51:11] grupo [51:11] na [51:11] dati [51:12] badjaw [51:12] lang [51:12] nakikita [51:13] natin [51:13] bago [51:13] pumutok [51:14] ang [51:14] bulkang [51:15] sa [51:15] Pampanga [51:16] ngayon [51:16] yung [51:17] pinatubo [51:17] ngayon [51:18] dalawa [51:19] na [51:19] baka [51:19] naman [51:19] sana [51:20] huwag [51:20] naman [51:20] masundan [51:21] pa ng [51:21] ibang [51:21] mga [51:21] katutubo [51:22] at [51:22] nandito [51:23] na [51:23] sila [51:23] lahat [51:23] so [51:24] siguro [51:24] we [51:25] also [51:26] have [51:26] to [51:26] identify [51:28] yung [51:30] bibigyan [51:30] natin [51:30] ng [51:30] mga [51:31] katutubo [51:31] and let's [51:31] not forget [51:32] them [51:33] kasama po [51:33] sila [51:34] thank you [51:36] yes [51:38] next to [51:38] present [51:39] their [51:39] position [51:40] is [51:40] the [51:41] department [51:42] of the [51:42] interior [51:43] and [51:43] local [51:43] government [51:44] who is [51:44] attending [51:45] online [51:45] miss [51:46] lucita [51:47] de la [51:47] pena [51:48] good [51:49] morning [51:49] mr [51:49] chair [51:50] i'm [51:50] lucita [51:51] de la [51:51] pena [51:51] from [51:51] the [51:52] department [51:52] of [51:52] the [51:52] interior [51:53] and [51:53] local [51:53] government [51:54] the [51:54] department [51:55] fully [51:55] supports [51:56] the [51:56] senate [51:57] bill [51:57] 766 [51:58] as well [51:59] as [51:59] 787 [52:00] impact [52:01] we [52:02] invited [52:02] every [52:03] time [52:03] the [52:04] DSWT [52:05] to [52:05] discuss [52:05] the [52:06] SLP [52:06] during [52:07] our [52:07] training [52:08] for [52:08] the [52:08] preparation [52:09] of [52:09] workforce [52:09] development [52:10] plan [52:10] as [52:11] for [52:11] our [52:11] recommendation [52:12] although [52:13] it's [52:14] already [52:14] stated [52:15] in [52:15] senate [52:16] bill [52:16] 787 [52:17] and [52:18] as [52:18] well [52:18] as [52:19] recommended [52:19] by [52:20] NAFSI [52:21] that [52:22] LGUs [52:22] encourage [52:23] to [52:23] include [52:24] in [52:25] their [52:25] local [52:25] development [52:25] plans [52:26] and [52:26] annual [52:27] investment [52:27] program [52:27] but [52:28] we [52:29] would [52:29] like [52:29] to [52:29] recommend [52:30] that [52:30] the [52:30] LGUs [52:31] is [52:31] that [52:32] also [52:33] wants [52:33] to [52:34] prepare [52:34] the [52:34] workforce [52:34] development [52:35] plan [52:35] the [52:36] workforce [52:36] development [52:37] plan [52:37] is [52:37] already [52:37] in [52:38] implementing [52:39] rules [52:39] and [52:39] regulations [52:40] of [52:40] the [52:40] Trabaho [52:40] para [52:41] Sabayan [52:41] Act [52:41] so [52:42] that [52:42] it's [52:43] not only [52:43] encourage [52:44] LGUs [52:44] but [52:44] LGUs [52:45] should [52:46] prepare [52:47] the [52:48] workforce [52:48] development [52:49] plan [52:49] the [52:49] workforce [52:50] development [52:50] plan [52:51] includes [52:52] skills [52:52] of [52:53] scaling [52:53] and [52:53] scaling [52:54] of [52:55] the [52:56] workforce [52:57] to [52:58] lessen [52:58] the [52:58] unemployment [52:59] purpose [52:59] is [52:59] to [53:00] lessen [53:00] the [53:00] unemployment [53:01] of [53:02] the [53:02] localities [53:03] so [53:04] it [53:04] includes [53:05] not [53:05] only [53:05] training [53:06] but [53:06] also [53:06] employment [53:07] as [53:07] well [53:07] to [53:08] the [53:08] Public [53:08] Employment [53:09] Service [53:10] Office [53:10] and [53:11] the [53:11] CITEC [53:11] po [53:11] so [53:12] the [53:12] one [53:12] who [53:13] prepared [53:13] the [53:14] workforce [53:14] is [53:15] the [53:15] peso [53:16] and [53:16] the [53:17] CITEC [53:17] so [53:17] that's [53:17] our [53:17] recommendations [53:18] to [53:19] include [53:20] SLP [53:20] in the [53:21] workforce [53:21] development [53:22] plan [53:22] of the [53:23] local [53:23] government [53:23] units [53:24] to [53:25] share [53:25] yung [53:26] sinasabi [53:26] nyo [53:26] kahit [53:27] magpalit [53:27] po [53:27] ng [53:27] governor [53:28] ng [53:28] mayors [53:29] ay [53:29] naka [53:30] institutionalize [53:31] po [53:31] yung [53:31] programming [53:32] SLP [53:32] sa [53:32] workforce [53:33] development [53:33] plan [53:34] the [53:34] workforce [53:35] development [53:35] plan [53:35] should [53:36] be [53:36] adopted [53:36] with [53:37] the [53:37] local [53:37] sanggunian [53:38] for [53:38] appropriation [53:39] kasi [53:39] may [53:40] funding [53:40] support [53:40] po [53:41] yun [53:41] for [53:41] the [53:41] training [53:42] po [53:42] and [53:42] then [53:43] after [53:44] the [53:44] training [53:44] of [53:44] the [53:45] SLP [53:45] the [53:45] LGU [53:46] should [53:46] also [53:47] pwede [53:49] pa rin [53:49] pa po [53:50] silang [53:50] mag-train [53:51] topping [53:53] the [53:54] TESDA [53:55] and [53:56] the [53:56] SWP [53:57] programs [53:58] and [53:58] the [53:59] OSD [53:59] and [54:00] dollar [54:01] and [54:02] also [54:02] one of [54:03] our [54:03] recommendations [54:03] also [54:04] is to [54:04] include [54:05] peso [54:05] in [54:06] the [54:06] SLP [54:06] I think [54:08] in [54:08] the [54:08] local [54:09] government [54:09] units [54:09] they're [54:10] only [54:10] tapping [54:10] the [54:11] social [54:11] welfare [54:11] officer [54:12] but [54:12] must be [54:13] included [54:14] also [54:14] the [54:14] public [54:16] employment [54:16] service [54:17] office [54:17] that [54:18] will [54:18] charge [54:18] for [54:19] the [54:19] livelihood [54:20] training [54:21] for [54:21] livelihood [54:22] and [54:22] livelihood [54:23] and [54:25] also [54:25] employment [54:26] as well [54:26] and [54:27] we will [54:28] submit [54:28] our [54:28] position [54:29] paper [54:29] as well [54:30] as [54:30] passport [54:30] thank you [54:31] sir [54:31] thank you [54:32] Mr. [54:32] Chair [54:32] please do [54:33] alright [54:34] balikan ko lang [54:35] si Aset [54:36] Monteverde [54:36] para sa [54:37] kalaman po [54:38] ng ilan [54:39] may mga [54:39] nanonood po [54:43] sa atin [54:44] ano pong [54:45] pinagkaiba [54:46] nitong [54:47] sa [54:48] kalahisids [54:49] kasi [54:49] may isa [54:49] pa pong [54:50] programa [54:50] ang [54:51] DSWD [54:52] what we [54:53] call [54:53] kalahisids [54:54] it's also [54:54] community [54:55] based [54:56] itong [54:57] SLP [54:58] ganun din [54:59] parang [54:59] community [55:00] din [55:00] so what's [55:00] the [55:01] difference [55:01] I mean [55:02] may [55:02] kalahisids [55:03] may SLP [55:05] what's [55:06] the [55:06] difference [55:06] ano [55:07] ano [55:07] naman [55:07] itong [55:08] kalahisids [55:08] ano [55:09] ito [55:10] di kaya [55:11] magdoble-doble [55:12] na [55:12] ang [55:13] Aset [55:13] Monteverde [55:14] yung [55:14] isang [55:14] community [55:15] na [55:15] bigyan [55:16] humingi [55:16] for example [55:17] nag [55:17] request [55:19] si [55:19] congressman [55:20] ng [55:20] kalahisids [55:21] sa isang [55:21] bayan [55:22] na ito [55:23] sa barangay [55:23] si mayor [55:24] nag request [55:25] naman [55:25] ng SLP [55:26] ay [55:27] papan po [55:29] ito [55:30] thank you [55:31] Mr. [55:31] Chair [55:31] the [55:32] kalahisids [55:33] and SLP [55:35] maganda po [55:36] siyang [55:37] mag-complement [55:38] it's a [55:39] complementation [55:40] of two [55:40] programs [55:41] the kalahisids [55:42] objective [55:44] is community [55:45] empowerment [55:45] wherein the [55:46] small [55:47] infrastructure [55:48] is the [55:48] manifestation [55:49] that we [55:51] can say [55:51] that the [55:51] community [55:52] are empowered [55:53] so [55:54] binibigay [55:55] po niya [55:55] is yung [55:56] grants [55:58] for them [55:59] to provide [56:00] the access [56:01] roads [56:01] water [56:02] system [56:03] that in [56:04] support [56:05] yun po [56:06] yung [56:06] complementation [56:06] niya [56:06] that will [56:07] in support [56:08] doon [56:08] sa [56:08] livelihood [56:08] project [56:09] for example [56:10] sabihin po [56:11] natin [56:11] sa [56:11] mountain [56:12] province [56:13] mga [56:13] farmers [56:14] po [56:14] ang [56:14] karamihan [56:15] dyan [56:15] ang [56:15] nagiging [56:16] problema [56:16] nila [56:16] yung [56:17] pagbaba [56:17] ng [56:18] mga [56:19] farm [56:19] produce [56:20] so [56:21] the [56:21] I'm not [56:23] saying [56:23] na hindi [56:23] maganda [56:24] na merong [56:24] middleman [56:25] doon [56:26] pero [56:26] somehow [56:27] it affects [56:28] the [56:28] income [56:29] ng [56:30] mga [56:30] farmers [56:31] so [56:31] si [56:31] kalahi [56:32] po [56:32] yung [56:32] mag [56:33] provide [56:33] farm [56:35] to [56:35] market [56:35] roads [56:36] para [56:36] yung [56:37] mga [56:37] farmers [56:38] madala [56:38] niya [56:38] ng [56:38] diretsyo [56:39] doon [56:39] sa [56:40] market [56:41] yung [56:42] produkto [56:43] nila [56:44] so [56:44] wala pong [56:45] cut [56:45] na [56:46] mangyayari [56:46] pangalawa [56:47] po [56:48] ang [56:48] kalahi [56:48] seeds [56:49] hindi po [56:49] siya [56:49] nagpo [56:50] provide [56:50] ng [56:50] capital [56:51] assist [56:51] ng [56:52] financial [56:53] capital [56:54] to [56:54] start [56:54] a [56:55] business [56:55] talaga [56:56] mga [56:57] small [56:58] vertical [56:58] and [56:59] horizontal [56:59] infrastructure [57:01] po [57:01] yung [57:02] binibigay [57:03] niya [57:04] pangatlo [57:04] po [57:04] the [57:05] kalahi [57:05] seeds [57:06] meron po [57:06] siyang [57:07] tinatawag [57:07] na [57:08] municipal [57:09] interbarangay [57:10] forum [57:11] in [57:11] prioritization [57:12] we're [57:14] talking [57:14] about [57:14] I don't [57:15] know [57:15] if [57:15] you're [57:15] the [57:15] right [57:15] person [57:16] to [57:16] talk [57:16] about [57:16] these [57:17] kalahi [57:17] seeds [57:17] I was [57:18] wondering [57:19] when I was [57:19] the [57:19] secretary [57:20] of [57:20] DSWD [57:21] I keep [57:21] on [57:21] thinking [57:22] hindi [57:23] ba [57:23] bumabanga [57:24] itong [57:24] kalahi [57:24] seeds [57:25] because [57:25] you're [57:25] saying [57:26] vertical [57:26] and [57:26] horizontal [57:27] infrastructure [57:28] meron [57:29] din [57:29] po [57:29] ang [57:30] Tieza [57:30] papano [57:30] po [57:31] yung [57:31] livelihood [57:31] ng [57:32] mga [57:32] tao [57:32] doon [57:32] turismo [57:33] sa [57:33] isang [57:34] maliit [57:34] na [57:34] isla [57:35] gusto [57:35] po [57:36] nila [57:36] na [57:36] malagyan [57:36] ng [57:37] CR [57:39] dahil [57:40] yun [57:40] ang gusto [57:40] ng [57:40] mga [57:41] turista [57:42] makapagswimming [57:42] eh [57:43] ang [57:43] pwede [57:44] rin [57:44] sila [57:44] magrequest [57:45] sa [57:45] Tieza [57:45] noon [57:46] so [57:46] hindi [57:48] kaya [57:48] magdudoble [57:50] lamang [57:50] pagdating [57:50] sa [57:51] mga [57:51] infrastructure [57:51] o [57:52] baka [57:52] humingi [57:53] yung [57:53] isang [57:53] community [57:54] sa [57:54] DPWH [57:55] so [57:56] how [57:56] do [57:57] we [57:57] monitor [57:58] this [57:58] meron [58:01] po [58:01] criteria [58:02] na [58:02] sinusunod [58:03] sa [58:03] pagselect [58:03] ng [58:04] mga [58:04] areas [58:05] na [58:05] papondohan [58:05] ng [58:05] Kalahi [58:06] project [58:06] which [58:07] is [58:07] primary [58:07] the [58:08] poverty [58:08] incidence [58:09] that [58:09] falls [58:10] 15.5 [58:11] not [58:12] fall [58:13] 15.5 [58:13] poverty [58:14] incidence [58:14] so [58:15] doon [58:15] po [58:15] tinitingnan [58:16] ngayon [58:16] doon [58:17] sa [58:17] community [58:18] sa [58:18] munisipio [58:19] pag [58:19] pumasok [58:20] na [58:20] si [58:20] Kalahi [58:21] meron [58:21] po [58:22] itong [58:22] memorandum [58:23] of [58:23] agreement [58:23] na pinipirmahan [58:24] at [58:25] lahat [58:26] po [58:26] nung [58:26] existing [58:27] or [58:28] ongoing [58:29] project [58:29] nung [58:30] munisipio [58:31] with [58:31] other [58:32] government [58:32] agency [58:33] minamatch [58:33] po [58:33] yun [58:34] para [58:34] to [58:34] avoid [58:35] the [58:35] duplication [58:36] so [58:36] for [58:36] example [58:37] si [58:37] sabihin [58:39] natin [58:40] yung [58:40] sa [58:40] infrastructure [58:41] meron [58:42] pinunduhan [58:42] po [58:42] halimbawa [58:43] doon [58:43] yung [58:44] mga [58:44] other [58:45] government [58:46] agency [58:46] hindi [58:47] na [58:47] po [58:47] siya [58:47] i-cover [58:48] ni [58:48] Kalahi [58:49] pwede [58:49] po [58:50] siya [58:50] mag [58:50] complement [58:51] for [58:51] example [58:51] yung [58:52] kaya [58:53] ni [58:53] Kalahi [58:53] kasi [58:53] may [58:54] maliit [58:54] na [58:54] proyekto [58:55] lang [58:55] po [58:55] ito [58:56] kumpara [58:56] din [58:57] sa [58:57] mga [58:57] national [58:57] project [58:58] ito [58:59] usually [59:00] ang [59:01] Kalahi [59:01] seeds [59:01] na [59:02] yan [59:02] it's [59:03] 20 [59:04] to [59:04] 40 [59:04] million [59:05] for [59:05] the [59:06] three [59:06] cycles [59:06] po [59:07] per [59:08] municipality [59:09] ganun po [59:11] siya [59:12] all right [59:12] thank you [59:13] komsek [59:13] yes [59:16] next to [59:17] present their [59:17] position [59:18] on the [59:20] agenda [59:21] is the [59:21] league of [59:22] provinces [59:22] of the [59:23] philippines [59:23] represented [59:25] by miss [59:25] angelica [59:26] sanchez [59:27] yes [59:29] good morning [59:29] mr. [59:30] chair [59:30] at the [59:31] outset [59:31] the league [59:32] of provinces [59:32] of the [59:33] philippines [59:33] expresses its [59:34] unequivocal [59:35] support for [59:36] the early [59:37] passage of [59:38] senate bills [59:38] 766 and [59:40] 787 that [59:41] seek to [59:42] institutionalize the [59:43] sustainable [59:43] livelihood program [59:45] as a means [59:46] towards pursuing [59:46] countryside [59:47] development through [59:48] sustainable [59:49] poverty reduction [59:50] programs [59:51] mr. [59:52] chair [59:52] we shall [59:52] be submitting [59:53] our [59:53] official [59:54] position [59:54] paper [59:55] however [59:55] we just [59:56] have to [59:57] we want [59:58] to present [59:59] some of [59:59] our [1:00:00] recommendations [1:00:00] of hand [1:00:01] first mr. [1:00:03] chair [1:00:03] we encourage [1:00:04] the establishment [1:00:05] of a [1:00:05] community [1:00:06] based [1:00:06] enterprise [1:00:07] to ensure [1:00:08] economies [1:00:09] of scale [1:00:09] instead of [1:00:10] individual [1:00:11] slp [1:00:12] beneficiaries [1:00:12] we would [1:00:13] really strongly [1:00:14] support that [1:00:15] we make it [1:00:16] into an [1:00:16] slp [1:00:17] association [1:00:18] kasi [1:00:18] it [1:00:19] ensures [1:00:21] economies [1:00:22] of scale [1:00:22] at the [1:00:23] same time [1:00:23] it also [1:00:24] discourages [1:00:25] the [1:00:26] competition [1:00:27] unnecessary [1:00:28] competition [1:00:29] between the [1:00:30] beneficiaries [1:00:30] and then [1:00:31] second mr. [1:00:32] chair [1:00:33] we recommend [1:00:34] a target [1:00:34] targeted [1:00:35] training [1:00:36] program [1:00:36] that will [1:00:37] address [1:00:37] the actual [1:00:38] needs [1:00:38] of the [1:00:38] beneficiaries [1:00:39] depending [1:00:40] on the [1:00:40] track [1:00:40] they would [1:00:41] like to [1:00:41] take [1:00:41] whether [1:00:42] it is [1:00:42] employment [1:00:43] or [1:00:43] entrepreneurship [1:00:44] so [1:00:45] dapat [1:00:46] talagang [1:00:46] natututukan [1:00:47] kung ano [1:00:48] talaga [1:00:48] ang [1:00:48] kailangan [1:00:49] hindi [1:00:50] yung [1:00:50] kung [1:00:51] ano [1:00:51] yung [1:00:51] convenient [1:00:52] and [1:00:53] then [1:00:53] third [1:00:54] we [1:00:55] recommend [1:00:56] to [1:00:56] strengthen [1:00:56] the [1:00:56] continuity [1:00:58] between [1:00:58] training [1:00:59] and [1:00:59] employment [1:01:00] opportunities [1:01:01] and or [1:01:02] entrepreneurial [1:01:02] development [1:01:03] kasi mr. [1:01:04] chair [1:01:04] on the [1:01:05] ground [1:01:06] we have [1:01:06] received [1:01:06] some [1:01:07] feedback [1:01:07] na [1:01:07] after [1:01:08] nilang [1:01:09] mag [1:01:09] training [1:01:09] sa [1:01:10] TESDA [1:01:11] hindi [1:01:11] na po [1:01:12] ito [1:01:12] na [1:01:12] follow [1:01:13] up [1:01:13] like [1:01:13] to [1:01:14] ensure [1:01:14] that [1:01:14] it is [1:01:15] being [1:01:15] linked [1:01:15] to [1:01:16] employment [1:01:16] minsan [1:01:17] hanggang [1:01:17] training [1:01:18] na lang [1:01:18] po [1:01:18] hindi [1:01:19] rin [1:01:20] nagagamit [1:01:21] so [1:01:22] sayang [1:01:22] din [1:01:22] naman [1:01:23] po [1:01:23] ang [1:01:23] pondo [1:01:23] ng [1:01:24] bayan [1:01:24] na [1:01:24] ginagamit [1:01:25] natin [1:01:25] for the [1:01:26] training [1:01:26] and then [1:01:28] next [1:01:29] recommendation [1:01:30] is a [1:01:30] whole [1:01:31] of [1:01:31] government [1:01:31] intervention [1:01:32] to ensure [1:01:33] not just [1:01:34] the supply [1:01:35] side [1:01:35] but also [1:01:36] a market [1:01:36] for the [1:01:36] products [1:01:37] of [1:01:37] of [1:01:37] our [1:01:38] SLP [1:01:38] partners [1:01:39] kasi [1:01:40] sayang [1:01:40] din [1:01:40] naman [1:01:40] po [1:01:41] na [1:01:41] tinuruan [1:01:42] natin [1:01:43] like [1:01:43] based on [1:01:45] the [1:01:46] example [1:01:46] of [1:01:47] Yusek [1:01:47] Monteverde [1:01:48] kanina [1:01:48] yung [1:01:49] tuturuan [1:01:50] natin [1:01:50] silang [1:01:50] mag [1:01:51] process [1:01:51] ng [1:01:51] products [1:01:52] pero [1:01:52] wala [1:01:53] naman [1:01:53] po [1:01:53] marketing [1:01:54] side [1:01:55] so [1:01:56] may [1:01:56] supply [1:01:57] side [1:01:57] ka [1:01:57] wala [1:01:57] ka [1:01:57] naman [1:01:58] demand [1:01:58] so [1:01:59] sayang [1:01:59] din [1:01:59] naman [1:01:59] po [1:02:00] and [1:02:01] then [1:02:01] at [1:02:01] the [1:02:01] same [1:02:01] time [1:02:02] we [1:02:02] also [1:02:02] propose [1:02:03] to [1:02:03] adapt [1:02:03] the [1:02:03] CIDS [1:02:04] principles [1:02:04] the [1:02:05] CIDS [1:02:06] as [1:02:06] principles [1:02:07] where [1:02:07] of [1:02:08] empowerment [1:02:09] wherein [1:02:09] the [1:02:10] SLP [1:02:11] associations [1:02:12] identify [1:02:13] what [1:02:14] programs [1:02:15] they [1:02:15] want [1:02:15] to [1:02:15] implement [1:02:16] and [1:02:17] then [1:02:17] at [1:02:17] the [1:02:17] same [1:02:17] time [1:02:17] implement [1:02:19] it [1:02:19] itself [1:02:20] I [1:02:21] think [1:02:21] kasi [1:02:21] by [1:02:23] using [1:02:23] the [1:02:24] SLP [1:02:24] associations [1:02:25] din [1:02:25] mababawasan [1:02:26] yung [1:02:27] monitoring [1:02:27] cost [1:02:28] natin [1:02:28] kasi [1:02:29] mas [1:02:29] kukonti [1:02:30] na [1:02:30] lang [1:02:30] po [1:02:30] yung [1:02:31] imonitor [1:02:32] natin [1:02:32] instead [1:02:33] of [1:02:33] individual [1:02:34] enterprises [1:02:35] and [1:02:36] then [1:02:37] next [1:02:39] is [1:02:39] to [1:02:40] formalize [1:02:40] and [1:02:40] professionalize [1:02:41] the [1:02:41] management [1:02:42] of [1:02:42] the [1:02:42] enterprise [1:02:43] so [1:02:44] kasi [1:02:44] minsan [1:02:45] in [1:02:46] the [1:02:47] experience [1:02:48] of [1:02:48] some [1:02:48] LGUs [1:02:49] they [1:02:49] do [1:02:50] some [1:02:50] animal [1:02:53] dispersal [1:02:53] activities [1:02:54] individual [1:02:55] po [1:02:55] yan [1:02:55] minsan [1:02:57] pag [1:02:57] malapit [1:02:57] na [1:02:58] po [1:02:58] ang [1:02:58] fiesta [1:02:58] or [1:02:59] malapit [1:02:59] na [1:02:59] isang [1:03:00] okasyon [1:03:01] nagkakaroon [1:03:01] ng [1:03:02] epidemic [1:03:02] unexplainable [1:03:04] epidemic [1:03:05] which [1:03:05] is [1:03:06] just [1:03:06] very [1:03:07] sa [1:03:07] area [1:03:08] nila [1:03:08] so [1:03:08] I [1:03:09] think [1:03:09] that's [1:03:09] one [1:03:10] of [1:03:10] ano [1:03:10] na [1:03:10] dapat [1:03:11] may [1:03:11] talaga [1:03:12] siya [1:03:12] ma-professionalize [1:03:13] ang [1:03:13] management [1:03:14] and [1:03:14] operation [1:03:15] and [1:03:16] then [1:03:16] we [1:03:18] also [1:03:18] encourage [1:03:19] the [1:03:19] harnessing [1:03:20] of [1:03:20] indigenous [1:03:20] materials [1:03:21] and [1:03:21] practices [1:03:22] within [1:03:22] the [1:03:22] communities [1:03:23] in order [1:03:24] to [1:03:24] strengthen [1:03:24] the [1:03:25] experience [1:03:26] kunwari [1:03:27] farmers [1:03:28] na [1:03:28] hindi [1:03:29] na [1:03:29] po [1:03:29] natin [1:03:29] ilalayo [1:03:30] sa [1:03:31] kung [1:03:31] anong [1:03:31] meron [1:03:31] sila [1:03:33] and [1:03:33] then [1:03:33] harness [1:03:33] the [1:03:34] support [1:03:34] of [1:03:34] the [1:03:34] LGUs [1:03:35] in [1:03:35] terms [1:03:35] of [1:03:36] its [1:03:36] formalization [1:03:37] as [1:03:38] and [1:03:38] promotion [1:03:39] and [1:03:40] then [1:03:41] the [1:03:41] SLP [1:03:41] should [1:03:42] be [1:03:42] implemented [1:03:42] side [1:03:43] by [1:03:43] side [1:03:43] with [1:03:44] the [1:03:44] CCT [1:03:45] instead [1:03:45] of [1:03:45] waiting [1:03:45] for [1:03:46] beneficiaries [1:03:46] to [1:03:47] graduate [1:03:47] from [1:03:47] the [1:03:48] program [1:03:48] because [1:03:49] as I [1:03:50] understand [1:03:50] it [1:03:50] po [1:03:51] mag-graduate [1:03:53] muna [1:03:53] sila [1:03:54] sa [1:03:54] 4Ps [1:03:54] bago [1:03:55] sila [1:03:55] ma-enroll [1:03:56] sa [1:03:56] SLP [1:03:58] I [1:03:58] think [1:03:58] we [1:04:00] think [1:04:00] that [1:04:00] it [1:04:00] would [1:04:00] be [1:04:01] better [1:04:01] if [1:04:01] simultaneous [1:04:02] ang [1:04:03] 4Ps [1:04:03] nila [1:04:04] tapos [1:04:05] SLP [1:04:06] na [1:04:06] rin [1:04:06] po [1:04:06] and [1:04:07] then [1:04:08] we [1:04:08] believe [1:04:08] that [1:04:08] it [1:04:09] takes [1:04:09] a [1:04:09] community [1:04:10] to [1:04:10] build [1:04:11] and [1:04:11] sustain [1:04:11] the [1:04:11] community [1:04:12] so [1:04:13] thank [1:04:13] you [1:04:13] Mr. [1:04:14] Chair [1:04:14] Thank [1:04:15] you [1:04:16] Ms. [1:04:16] Sanchez [1:04:17] Asek [1:04:19] Monteverde [1:04:20] or [1:04:20] Director [1:04:21] Leon [1:04:23] Leon [1:04:23] Do you [1:04:25] have [1:04:26] mechanisms [1:04:27] right now [1:04:28] kasi [1:04:29] may mga [1:04:30] balita [1:04:30] ako [1:04:30] before [1:04:31] when I [1:04:32] took [1:04:32] over [1:04:32] when I [1:04:33] joined [1:04:33] the [1:04:33] SWD [1:04:34] Nagagamit [1:04:35] po ito [1:04:36] ng ilang [1:04:36] politiko [1:04:37] sa [1:04:38] pumulitika [1:04:39] lalo [1:04:39] na po [1:04:40] pag [1:04:40] eleksyon [1:04:40] hinihingi [1:04:41] po ito [1:04:42] dati [1:04:42] ng mga [1:04:43] politicians [1:04:43] na sa [1:04:44] local [1:04:44] government [1:04:45] units [1:04:45] local [1:04:46] government [1:04:47] so [1:04:49] sino [1:04:50] po [1:04:50] na may [1:04:50] mili [1:04:50] ng [1:04:51] beneficiary [1:04:51] is that [1:04:52] is that [1:04:52] you [1:04:52] I mean [1:04:52] other [1:04:53] than [1:04:53] kasi alam ko [1:04:54] hindi lang [1:04:54] naman [1:04:55] hindi lang [1:04:55] naman [1:04:56] for peace [1:04:57] ang beneficiary [1:04:58] nito [1:04:58] meron pong [1:04:59] sa labas [1:04:59] so who [1:05:00] identifies [1:05:01] them [1:05:01] is it [1:05:02] DSWD [1:05:03] is it [1:05:03] the [1:05:04] politician [1:05:04] or [1:05:05] namimigay [1:05:06] pa rin [1:05:06] ba [1:05:06] kayo [1:05:07] sa mga [1:05:07] mayor [1:05:07] governor [1:05:08] ng [1:05:08] SLP [1:05:09] kasa [1:05:10] congressman [1:05:11] or [1:05:11] ito [1:05:12] po [1:05:12] nililimit [1:05:13] yun [1:05:13] talaga [1:05:14] para [1:05:14] sa mga [1:05:14] for peace [1:05:15] kasi [1:05:15] dati [1:05:16] tapos [1:05:17] magsasubmit [1:05:18] si mayor [1:05:19] kung sino [1:05:20] bibig [1:05:20] ipapano [1:05:20] yun [1:05:21] na naman [1:05:22] balik [1:05:22] na naman [1:05:22] tayo [1:05:23] sa parang [1:05:24] AICS [1:05:24] na [1:05:25] ang problema [1:05:25] eh [1:05:26] hindi [1:05:27] botante [1:05:28] ni mayor [1:05:28] bumoto [1:05:29] sa kabila [1:05:30] sa kalaban [1:05:31] so kawawa [1:05:32] pero [1:05:32] kailangan [1:05:33] kailangan [1:05:34] niya [1:05:34] talaga [1:05:34] ng hanap [1:05:35] buhay [1:05:35] o ng [1:05:36] capital [1:05:36] para [1:05:36] makapag [1:05:37] negosyo [1:05:37] siya [1:05:38] so [1:05:38] do we [1:05:39] have [1:05:39] mechanisms [1:05:40] I mean [1:05:41] if we [1:05:41] institutionalize [1:05:42] this [1:05:43] na para [1:05:43] hindi [1:05:43] na maulit [1:05:44] itong [1:05:44] ganitong [1:05:44] sitwasyon [1:05:46] thank [1:05:47] you [1:05:47] Mr. [1:05:47] Chair [1:05:47] yung [1:05:48] sharing [1:05:49] po [1:05:49] noong [1:05:49] targeting [1:05:50] is [1:05:50] 60% [1:05:51] yung [1:05:51] 4Ps [1:05:52] while [1:05:54] the [1:05:54] 40% [1:05:55] kasi [1:05:55] meron tayo [1:05:56] nakikita [1:05:56] ng mga [1:05:57] exclusion [1:05:57] error [1:05:58] dun sa [1:05:58] 4Ps [1:05:59] so [1:05:59] ito yung [1:06:00] mahihira [1:06:01] pa rin [1:06:01] base [1:06:02] dun sa [1:06:02] PSA [1:06:03] so [1:06:04] kinocover [1:06:05] din po [1:06:05] yan [1:06:05] so [1:06:06] ang [1:06:07] referral [1:06:08] po [1:06:08] from [1:06:08] the [1:06:08] local [1:06:09] government [1:06:09] unit [1:06:09] and [1:06:10] other [1:06:10] organization [1:06:12] or [1:06:12] institutions [1:06:13] welcome [1:06:14] po [1:06:14] yan [1:06:15] pero [1:06:15] subject [1:06:16] for [1:06:16] the [1:06:17] eligibility [1:06:18] assessment [1:06:19] na ginagawa [1:06:20] ng [1:06:20] beneficiaries [1:06:21] so [1:06:22] kahit [1:06:22] mag [1:06:22] submit [1:06:23] po [1:06:23] si [1:06:23] for [1:06:23] example [1:06:24] mag [1:06:24] submit [1:06:24] si [1:06:24] LGU1 [1:06:25] sa [1:06:25] amin [1:06:26] na [1:06:26] ito [1:06:27] yung [1:06:27] nakikita [1:06:27] namin [1:06:28] na [1:06:28] mahirap [1:06:29] we [1:06:29] in-honor [1:06:30] po [1:06:30] natin [1:06:31] yan [1:06:31] pero [1:06:32] sinasubject [1:06:33] pa rin [1:06:33] siya [1:06:33] sa [1:06:33] eligibility [1:06:34] at [1:06:34] yung [1:06:34] magiging [1:06:35] feedback [1:06:35] po [1:06:35] doon [1:06:36] ini-inform [1:06:37] yung [1:06:38] nag-request [1:06:39] na [1:06:40] party [1:06:40] so [1:06:40] sinasabi [1:06:41] namin [1:06:41] na [1:06:41] ito [1:06:42] hindi [1:06:42] talaga [1:06:42] po [1:06:43] pwede [1:06:43] kasi [1:06:43] hindi [1:06:44] siya [1:06:44] pasa [1:06:45] dun sa [1:06:45] eligibility [1:06:46] criteria [1:06:46] na [1:06:47] niraran [1:06:47] po [1:06:48] natin [1:06:48] so [1:06:48] ganun [1:06:49] po [1:06:49] yung [1:06:49] nangyayari [1:06:51] po [1:06:51] doon [1:06:51] How [1:06:52] do you [1:06:53] yung [1:06:53] sinasabi [1:06:53] eligibility [1:06:54] sa [1:06:55] criteria [1:06:55] yun [1:06:56] yung [1:06:59] LGU [1:07:01] right [1:07:01] e paano [1:07:03] kung hindi nga [1:07:03] sinama [1:07:04] for example [1:07:04] ako [1:07:05] dito [1:07:06] ako [1:07:06] sa [1:07:06] barangay [1:07:07] 123 [1:07:07] e hindi [1:07:09] ko [1:07:09] binoto [1:07:09] itong [1:07:10] si [1:07:10] mayor [1:07:11] na ito [1:07:11] yung [1:07:11] angkan [1:07:12] ko [1:07:12] dahil [1:07:13] wala lang [1:07:14] hindi ko [1:07:14] siya [1:07:14] binoto [1:07:14] may [1:07:15] kandidato [1:07:16] ako [1:07:16] at [1:07:17] pagkatapos [1:07:18] hindi [1:07:19] binigay [1:07:19] ni [1:07:19] barangay [1:07:20] captain [1:07:20] kay [1:07:20] mayor [1:07:21] yung [1:07:21] pangalan [1:07:21] namin [1:07:22] yung [1:07:22] angkan [1:07:22] namin [1:07:22] papano [1:07:23] e kailangan [1:07:24] kailangan [1:07:24] talaga [1:07:25] namin [1:07:25] so [1:07:25] parang [1:07:26] wala [1:07:26] po [1:07:26] yata [1:07:27] kayong [1:07:27] mechanism [1:07:27] dyan [1:07:28] is [1:07:28] there [1:07:29] ah [1:07:29] co-institutionalize [1:07:31] po natin [1:07:32] ito [1:07:32] we have [1:07:32] to come [1:07:33] up [1:07:33] with [1:07:33] something [1:07:34] na [1:07:34] hindi [1:07:35] po [1:07:35] maulit [1:07:36] na [1:07:36] naabuso [1:07:37] ito [1:07:37] nagagamit [1:07:38] ng [1:07:38] politiko [1:07:39] na talagang [1:07:40] ang [1:07:40] intention [1:07:41] po [1:07:41] nito [1:07:41] ang [1:07:42] target [1:07:42] po [1:07:42] nito [1:07:42] ay [1:07:43] to [1:07:43] uplift [1:07:43] the [1:07:44] lives [1:07:45] of [1:07:45] the [1:07:45] poor [1:07:46] Filipino [1:07:46] family [1:07:47] eh [1:07:48] pero [1:07:48] kung [1:07:48] target [1:07:49] lang [1:07:49] ni [1:07:49] mayor [1:07:49] dahil [1:07:50] hindi [1:07:50] ka [1:07:50] bumoto [1:07:50] ito [1:07:51] mga [1:07:51] bubulong [1:07:52] si [1:07:52] chair [1:07:52] sabihin [1:07:53] mayor [1:07:53] bigyan [1:07:53] naman [1:07:57] ni [1:07:58] binoto [1:07:59] itong [1:07:59] darating [1:08:00] na [1:08:00] eleksyon [1:08:00] eh [1:08:01] kahit [1:08:02] na [1:08:03] mahirap [1:08:03] ako [1:08:03] kunari [1:08:03] for [1:08:04] example [1:08:04] ako [1:08:04] at [1:08:04] sa [1:08:05] angkan [1:08:05] ko [1:08:05] hindi [1:08:05] ko [1:08:05] binoto [1:08:06] si [1:08:06] mayor [1:08:06] sige [1:08:09] maghanap [1:08:09] ka lalang [1:08:09] iba [1:08:10] dyan [1:08:10] paano [1:08:11] po [1:08:11] ito [1:08:11] eh [1:08:12] hindi [1:08:12] nakarating [1:08:13] sa inyo [1:08:13] yung [1:08:13] pangalan [1:08:14] namin [1:08:14] yung [1:08:14] angkan [1:08:15] namin [1:08:15] paano [1:08:15] po [1:08:16] yan [1:08:16] sige [1:08:18] po [1:08:18] for [1:08:19] SLP [1:08:19] po [1:08:20] meron [1:08:20] kaming [1:08:20] pinatawag [1:08:21] na [1:08:21] regular [1:08:21] implementation [1:08:22] so [1:08:23] hindi [1:08:23] it is in the COOP. Any institution, politicians, [1:08:26] they can endorse us. But on our implementation, [1:08:29] there are separate implementations for regular. [1:08:32] It is called our target [1:08:33] that is our hard municipio. [1:08:37] So, automatically, we have to allocate [1:08:39] the fund to support or to provide [1:08:42] intervention to the areas that we really target [1:08:45] in the SRP. And then, many walk-in clients [1:08:49] nag-susulat sa atin. Minsan, pupunta sa opisina [1:08:53] sa munisipyo, sa regional office po. [1:08:55] Ito, ini-entertain po namin. [1:08:57] Ina-assess din po namin sila if they are eligible. [1:08:59] Then, we provide po livelihood assistance din po [1:09:02] sa mga ito na humihingi sa amin ng individually [1:09:05] or through an organization. [1:09:07] Minsan po, meron din mga organizations [1:09:09] na yung kanilang member ay gusto nilang matulungan. [1:09:12] So, we also entertain and we also assess them po [1:09:15] if qualified. Then, we implement the SRP for them po. [1:09:18] But, how would you know na itong community na ito [1:09:22] ay ma-identified as kailangan-kailangan [1:09:27] when, in fact, kulang po yung tao ninyo? [1:09:29] Kanina lang po sa opening statement ni ASIC, [1:09:31] kulang pa kayo ng manpower? [1:09:33] Ay, paano pa po? Tapos, let alone [1:09:36] yung magmamonitor ng ikang itong community [1:09:39] na ito mahirap, let alone na mag-interview kayo. [1:09:43] Siyempre, ikaw bag, etc., etc., [1:09:45] nagihirap, gusto mo mabago ang buhay. [1:09:47] Kung wala kayo yung tao, how do you do this now? [1:09:56] We admit, Mr. Chair, na talagang malaki yung problema namin [1:10:02] sa kakulangan ng tao, not just for the manpower, [1:10:06] but also for the budget. [1:10:08] So, talagang kahit kailangan isaturate yung isang lugar na mahirap, [1:10:13] hindi namin magawa eh. [1:10:14] Because of untied kami doon sa limited resources. [1:10:19] So, what we did, [1:10:20] ang unang tinitingnan namin dito, [1:10:23] yung poverty incidents, [1:10:24] and the most number of poor pays [1:10:26] na nasa level 2. [1:10:29] So, yan po yung tinitingnan namin dyan. [1:10:31] Then, we identified those municipalities [1:10:34] based on the available budget. [1:10:37] So, kapag halimbawa, [1:10:39] sabi natin si LGU, [1:10:41] ma nag-refer po sa amin, [1:10:43] of the total referrals niya, [1:10:46] mayroon talagang hindi napasama. [1:10:48] Sabi natin yung realidad na hindi niya, [1:10:50] kasi hindi nga buboto sa kanya yan. [1:10:52] So, kapagka dun sa nirefer po niya, [1:10:54] ay qualified po, [1:10:57] base dun sa assessment, [1:10:59] pwedeng, [1:11:00] ang possibility, [1:11:01] mauubos talaga yung pondo na allocated doon, [1:11:05] nang hindi namin mako-cover yung hindi niya sinama. [1:11:09] Pero eventually, [1:11:10] for the next round, [1:11:11] or yung next year, [1:11:13] yun po yung tinitingnan namin, [1:11:14] na pag pumasok uli yung munisipyo na yun, [1:11:16] na dapat iserve ng SLP, [1:11:18] dun na kami dun sa second round pumupunta ngayon. [1:11:21] So, yun po eh, [1:11:23] as much we would like to saturate sana yung mga target eligible clients, [1:11:30] but due to limitations that we have experiencing right now, [1:11:34] yun po yung, [1:11:34] kaya hindi namin talaga siya totally, [1:11:37] mabuo yung beneficiaries. [1:11:40] Okay, I understand where you're coming from, [1:11:44] basing on your explanation. [1:11:47] Sabagay, kung ma-institutionalize ito, [1:11:49] you will need, [1:11:50] you will have funds. [1:11:52] To hire more people like, [1:11:55] hindi lamang po yung monitoring, [1:11:57] that's ongoing, [1:11:59] pati yung sa surveillance, [1:12:00] or yung ikang mag-i-interview, [1:12:01] and then follow through. [1:12:03] May mga kailangan din kayong tao na, [1:12:05] kumusta na kaya ito. [1:12:06] So, I can understand. [1:12:08] Alright, thank you, [1:12:09] Asik Monteverde, [1:12:10] Komsek. [1:12:11] Our next speaker will be from the Union of Local Authorities of the Philippines, [1:12:17] represented by Mr. Edmond Quaresma. [1:12:20] Sir. [1:12:25] Good morning, Chair Tulfo. [1:12:27] I'm Edmond Quaresma from the Union of Local Authorities of the Philippines, [1:12:30] and we thank you for inviting us to this session, [1:12:33] and reaching us to us for comments on the Sustainable Livelihood Program. [1:12:36] So, the Union of Local Authorities expresses its support for the proposed measure seeking to institutionalize and strengthen the Sustainable Livelihood Program of the DSWD. [1:12:47] ULAP recognizes the importance of these reforms in advancing a more sustainable and inclusive approach to poverty reduction by empowering individuals, households, and communities with the necessary skills, resources, and opportunities to achieve long-term economic self-sufficiency. [1:13:04] The institutionalization of the SLP is a critical step in ensuring continuity, stability of funding, and coherence in the delivery of livelihood interventions nationwide. [1:13:14] By shifting the focus from short-term assistance to capacity building, employment facilitation, and enterprise development, [1:13:23] the program contributes to breaking the cycle of poverty and enhancing the resilience of vulnerable sectors. [1:13:29] ULAP likewise acknowledges the importance of convergence among national government agencies, the private sector, and local stakeholders in strengthening livelihood outcomes and expanding economic opportunities. [1:13:40] Moreover, ULAP expresses its support for the provision encouraging LGUs to integrate SLP implementation into their local development plans, annual investment programs, and other local planning mechanisms. [1:13:54] This approach appropriately respects the principle of local autonomy by allowing LGUs the flexibility to adopt and align SLP interventions based on their unique development priorities and local contexts, rather than imposing a uniform mandate. [1:14:11] At the same time, ULAP underscores the effectiveness of the SLP will depend largely on the meaningful participation and empowerment of LGUs as key partners in implementation. [1:14:20] In this regard, ULAP respectfully puts forward the following initial recommendations. [1:14:26] Firstly, we would want to strengthen the role of LGUs as co-implementers by clearly defining their functions in beneficiary identification, project development, monitoring, and post-assistance support. [1:14:37] Secondly, provide adequate fiscal and capacity support to LGUs. [1:14:41] Thirdly, ensure alignment of SLP interventions with local economic development priorities, including local industry clusters, employment opportunities, and investment plans to improve sustainability and impact. [1:14:55] Fourth, institutionalize local convergence mechanisms to facilitate coordination among LGUs, disability, and other relevant agencies such as DOLE, TESTA, DTI, and the DA, as well as private sector partners. [1:15:08] Next, would be to clarify the transition and long-term responsibilities of LGUs in sustaining livelihood projects and supporting beneficiaries after initial program assistance. [1:15:21] Next, would be to strengthen market linkages and private sector engagement to ensure that livelihood initiatives are demand-driven and connected to viable economic opportunities. [1:15:30] And lastly, is to ensure access of LGUs to relevant data and monitoring systems to support evidence-based planning, implementation, and evaluation. [1:15:38] ULOP, likewise, highlights the role of LGUs as drivers of innovation in strengthening the implementation and outcomes of the SLP. [1:15:46] In this regard, LGUs may adopt the following priority innovations. [1:15:50] Promoting industry-based clustering of beneficiaries aligned with local economic strength to improve scale coordination and sustainability. [1:16:00] Establish market linkages mechanisms prior to livelihood support, including support, partnerships with local businesses, cooperatives, and institutional buyers. [1:16:08] To develop local livelihood incubation and mentorship hubs to provide continuous technical and business development support to beneficiaries. [1:16:16] Institutionalize local governance governance platforms to ensure coordinated delivery of services among national agencies, LGUs, and privacy actors. [1:16:26] And integrate SLP interventions into local economic development and planning frameworks to ensure alignment with long-term growth strategies. [1:16:33] ULOP remains committed to working with Congress, Gestability, and other stakeholders in refining the measures to ensure the SLP becomes effective, locally responsive, and sustainable pathway towards inclusive development and poverty reduction. [1:16:47] We will submit our official position paper once it is approved by the National Executive Board. [1:16:51] Thank you. [1:16:52] Thank you, Mr. Quaresma. [1:16:56] It was just like one of the recommendations nyo kanina na you're requesting the local government units will be partners of this program. [1:17:08] I think we'll have a problem with that. [1:17:09] Kasi nga, based on experience, I don't know, baka nagbago na yun because we have already the, we're really pushing for this anti-EPAL law. [1:17:18] Nagagamit po kasi ito before ng ating pong mga LGU, ng mga politicians po natin sa LGU level na ika nga, parang iba nga, iagamit po ito pag mag-e-eleksyon for vote buying. [1:17:35] But I'm not saying lahat po ay gano'n. [1:17:37] It's just like siguro kailangan natin pag-aralan, kailangan pag-aralan DSWD how kabagay kung maipasan na po itong anti-EPAL law na ito. [1:17:46] I think mababawasan po definitely itong pangamba natin, pangamba ko na baka magamit na naman sa ikang pamumulitika. [1:17:57] Yung what we're avoiding is kagaya po ito, ito po ay grant po ito eh. [1:18:03] Parang di ayuda siya but in a sense like parang pangmatagalan, hindi yung parang ban aid like AX na pangangailangan. [1:18:12] Ito ay parang capital, startup capital for business. [1:18:17] Ang nga problem po lamang, yung nga po baka, papano kung talagang doon sa isang barangay, isang town, talagang isang pamilya, isang grupo na kailangan-kailangan talaga dila. [1:18:31] They really need ika nga ng puhunan to survive. [1:18:35] Eh hindi siya naka-align kay mayor, hindi siya tao ni mayor. [1:18:38] That's what we are trying to avoid. But it's a very good point. [1:18:42] Sige po, well, the committee will really have to study this and then probably sa TWD Technical Working Group [1:18:48] and how do we go around this, yung mga recommendations po ninyo. [1:18:53] Recommendation ng NAPSI, ng NCIP, pati po ng LPP. [1:18:58] So we really have to look into this. [1:19:01] All right, Komsek, there's still resource persons? [1:19:06] Yes, Mr. Chair, we have still three resource persons. [1:19:11] Next to present their position is the Samahanan Nagkakaisang Pamilya ng Pantawid Incorporated, represented by Ms. Melanie Cervantes. [1:19:20] Good morning, Mr. Chair. [1:19:24] Isang bukas na oportunidad po ang pag-i-institutionalize ng SLP dahil para po sa aming mga benepisyaryo, ito ay hindi lamang kailangan ng mga mag-e-exit sa programa, [1:19:39] kundi ng mga sambahayang may malaking kakulangan sa kanilang kabuhayan. [1:19:44] Agree po ako dun sa sinasabi nila na hindi ito ipapa-implement during the time na gag-graduate ang isang purpose. [1:19:53] Kasi hindi po naaaral overnight yung mga ganitong bagay. [1:19:57] Ito po'y dapat napaghahandaan as early stage po para sa aming mga transformative years. [1:20:03] At mas maganda rin po na isinasabay po sa aming family development session yung pagtuturo ng mga skills para sa mga benepisyaryo kasi gusto po namin i-improve yung aming buhay. [1:20:20] At dun po sa sinasabi nila na yung magagamit ng politika, may mga paraan po para hindi. [1:20:28] Kasi sa aming po, part po ako kasi nang nabigyan ng SLP, ang nagtarget po sa amin as beneficiaries ay hindi po nasa loob ng munisipyo, [1:20:39] kundi yung aming city na nakaka-assess ng aming pamumuhay. [1:20:43] Sila po yung nagsuswidi sa amin, alam nila yung mga status namin sa buhay. [1:20:49] So sila po yung nagbibigay ng reperal. [1:20:51] At from there po, pinagtulungan po ng council na ibigay sa POCAL. [1:20:58] Tapos yung POCAL po ang nag-bridge dun sa aming mayor. [1:21:01] Ma'am, makasingit lamang po. [1:21:04] Sa inyo, walang problema. [1:21:05] Dahil identified na ho talaga kayo sa four-piece, di po ba? [1:21:08] Talagang yun po ang exit program ng pamahalaan ng DSWD para kayo po ay muling tumayo sa sarili niyong mga paanan. [1:21:22] Dahil titigil na po yung binibigay ng gobyerno na four-piece po sa inyo buwanan. [1:21:28] And for so many years, you've been a beneficiary of that and then suddenly mawawala. [1:21:33] So kailangan po nilang may pamalit po rito na parang ikamang mabubuhay. [1:21:37] Ay, ay, ay, alam ko po yung where you're coming from. [1:21:41] Hindi po kayo walang politiko na involved because it was the DSWD. [1:21:46] Nakita po ginuwa sa lisa. [1:21:47] My point was, yung nagagamit po ng LGU ito, [1:21:52] doon sa mga na-identify na may mga ilang mga politiko na nakakalusot na nagre-request ng SLP [1:21:58] dahil mahirap nga talaga ang kanyang lugar. [1:22:01] Pinuntahan ng SLP talagang kalunos-lunos sa mga tao. [1:22:04] Wala na talagang trabaho, walang makain. [1:22:06] So pupunta, ang punto lang namin dito is, [1:22:10] paano nga kung hindi naman talaga sinaman ni Mayor? [1:22:12] Kunwari ikaw, hindi ka SLP, hindi ka four-piece beneficiary. [1:22:17] Nakatira ka dito sa bayan ko, sa bayan ng Timbukto. [1:22:20] Eh, pagkatapos tanungin ko, barangay chairman, bumoto ba yan si Aling Melanie? [1:22:25] Sabihin, naku, Mayor, ibang binoto niyan, hindi ikaw. [1:22:28] Eh, kung ako lukuloko na Mayor, eh, hindi. [1:22:30] O, naisama yan si Aling Melanie, hindi pala bumoto sa atin niya. [1:22:33] Kung hindi ka four-piece. [1:22:34] Pero pag four-piece ka, we have no problem with that. [1:22:37] Dahil talagang DSWD talaga, matik yun na isasama ka pag exit mo na. [1:22:44] But we're pointing here yung sa LGO, yung mga ina-identify nila na, [1:22:49] hindi naman four-piece. [1:22:50] Yung na nagkakaproblem. [1:22:51] Apo. [1:22:52] Mr. Chair, mahalaga rin po kasi na may focal po ang DSWD na nag-handle po para sa mga indigenous families po. [1:23:00] Sa mga indigent families. [1:23:02] Kasi kung hindi nga po magkakaroon ng mga ganong focal, yung DSWD, na ha-handle sa mga hindi four-piece, [1:23:10] talaga pong mangyayari yung sinasabi nilang pinili ni Kapitan, pinili ni Mayor, pinili ni Governor. [1:23:16] So, dapat po talaga, each pillar po, kagaya po ng DSWD, ay nagtatalaga ng kanilang focal na nag-a-assess sa kalagayan ng mga residentes sa community. [1:23:29] Kasi napakahalaga pong bagay yung may nag-monitor at may nag-evaluate po. [1:23:34] Hindi lang po yung after at before mabigay yung SLP. [1:23:38] Kasi kung ang approach po ay kumpleto, magiging efficient po yung implementation nitong SLP. [1:23:46] Kasi hindi naman po basta-basta dapat ito ibinibigay na, ibinibigay lang po yung perang puhunan. [1:23:52] Kailangan po, ine-equip po talaga ng knowledge na may training sa financial management, [1:23:58] may training sa good manufacturing practices, may training po sa digital marketing, [1:24:04] at lahat-lahat pa po nang dapat na inclusive dun sa itinuturo nila, [1:24:08] para po maging mas efficient po para sa amin itong mga SLP. [1:24:12] At masisiguro po na hindi lang pinili na dahil lang may political basis, [1:24:23] kailangan po talaga yung approach ay holistic kung may focal. [1:24:28] Salamat po, ma'am. Thank you. [1:24:33] Tom Sek. [1:24:34] Next to present their position is the Philippine Statistics Authority, [1:24:41] represented by Mr. Ramil Marco Toledo and Ms. Maria Fides Wilma Marquez. [1:24:46] Good morning, Mr. Chair. [1:24:49] The Philippine Statistics Authority fully supports strengthening the country's social protection programs, [1:24:55] including the Sustainable Livelihood Program, [1:24:57] through the use of the community-based monitoring system in beneficiary targeting [1:25:01] and the National ID in verifying the identity of social protection beneficiaries. [1:25:06] The PSA recommends the use of the National ID as the primary documentary requirement [1:25:11] in application and granting of assistance to be considered during the development [1:25:15] of the overall framework, guidelines, and operational procedure of the SLP. [1:25:20] Requiring the National ID as the primary documentary requirement in social protection programs, [1:25:25] directly advances the statutory objectives by institutionalizing a standardized and secure method [1:25:33] of identity verification. [1:25:35] Additionally, the PSA through the community-based monitoring system data [1:25:40] may be used by the DSWD in the pre-identification of potential SLP beneficiaries. [1:25:46] This is in accordance with the provisions under the Republic Act No. 11315 [1:25:51] or the CBMS Act that permits the appropriate national government agencies [1:25:55] to use the data generated by the CBMS in prioritizing timely, relevant, [1:26:01] and much-needed social protection programs. [1:26:03] Thank you. [1:26:06] Madam, lahat na po ba tayo? [1:26:08] Lahat na po ng mga Pilipino ba? [1:26:10] Yung mga dapat na magkaroon ng ID? [1:26:12] May ID na? [1:26:12] O ilan pa po ang walang ID? [1:26:16] By the way, on top of my head, [1:26:19] I would just like to ask, [1:26:22] ilan na po ba tayo ngayon sa populasyon natin? [1:26:24] Hindi ko na po nasundan. [1:26:25] Alam ko, 120. [1:26:26] Ano na ba kung may? [1:26:27] 121, 122 million, 130. [1:26:30] Baka dumami ng dumami tayo. [1:26:33] Ilan na po? [1:26:34] Meron po kayo dyan sa inyong system? [1:26:37] Can you tell us? [1:26:39] Kung ilang million na po talaga tayo. [1:26:41] As of, pagsabihin natin, [1:26:42] 2024, or yung last na ikot po ninyo, [1:26:45] 2020, [1:26:45] o kailan po yung last na census po ninyo? [1:26:52] 2024. [1:26:53] Ilan po tayo noong 2024? [1:26:59] Okay. [1:27:00] And out of that kasi, [1:27:01] sa population na yun, [1:27:02] ilan po ang may ID na? [1:27:06] Mr. Chair, [1:27:08] meron na po tayong 55 million [1:27:10] na delivered na cards. [1:27:12] Pero meron din naman po tayong option po, [1:27:15] yung pong format na nandun po sa ating paper format, [1:27:21] National ID and Paper, [1:27:22] at saka po yung Digital National ID. [1:27:24] So, dun po sa paper format na na-issue, [1:27:28] meron na po tayong 49,475,605 as of March 15, [1:27:34] at saka yung Digital National ID naman po [1:27:37] na ready for access ay nasa 90,488,679. [1:27:43] Paper format. [1:27:44] Bakit may paper format po tayo? [1:27:46] Ibig sabihin, papel? [1:27:47] Para resibo lang? [1:27:48] Naku, marami mga kababayan natin, ma'am, [1:27:50] makalimutin na lalabhan eh. [1:27:52] Pag nalabhan yung pantalon, eh, wala na. [1:27:54] Pwede na po po itong magpa-print po lagi. [1:27:57] Pompomanta lang po sa aming mga... [1:27:59] Bakit wala pang card? [1:28:01] Bakit wala mo pang card? [1:28:02] Bakit alam, bigyan mo na ng papel? [1:28:04] Previously, sir, I think we've mentioned [1:28:07] that there has been an issue with the printing of the cards, [1:28:11] but we assure po that everyone po [1:28:13] will receive their physical cards po. [1:28:16] Have you already... [1:28:17] Are you guys fixing that problem? [1:28:20] Yes. [1:28:20] With the printing? [1:28:21] We can deliver po additional mga... [1:28:24] Initially, 12 million cards for this year. [1:28:27] 12 million cards? [1:28:28] Yung sa akin, ma'am, [1:28:29] inaantay ko pa yung one, [1:28:30] nakatatlong litrato na ako, [1:28:32] thumb mark, etc. [1:28:34] Hindi ko ba natatagap. [1:28:35] Ang dami ko nga ang ID dito, [1:28:36] halo-halo, may Pill Health, [1:28:38] may SS, [1:28:39] ngayon GSIS, [1:28:41] Senate, [1:28:42] napakadami kong... [1:28:43] Kumapal na po itong wallet ko. [1:28:46] Dahil sa mga ID, [1:28:47] hindi sa pera, [1:28:47] sana sa pera. [1:28:48] Muro ID. [1:28:50] Tsaka mga kung ano-anong card, [1:28:52] yung po yung problema. [1:28:53] Sana, [1:28:53] inaantay ko po yung Pill Health [1:28:55] para isa na lang. [1:28:55] We recommend po as well of, [1:28:58] downloading po yung eGov PH app [1:29:00] to download po your [1:29:01] digital national ID. [1:29:04] These were, [1:29:04] ano po, [1:29:05] formats... [1:29:05] Sa tingin nyo, [1:29:06] kailan na lahat tayo [1:29:08] ay makaka may ID na talaga [1:29:10] na lahat ng Pilipino [1:29:12] may ID? [1:29:14] Continuous po kasi rin naman po [1:29:15] yung registration namin. [1:29:17] Kaya po, [1:29:18] patutuli lang po yung printing [1:29:19] once hapang po meron tayong... [1:29:21] Paano po yung mga NCIP nga pala? [1:29:23] Paano sila mong parehistory? [1:29:25] Pinapuntahan nyo ba? [1:29:25] Bababa sila sa bundok? [1:29:27] Yes po, [1:29:27] meron po kaming mga mobile registration [1:29:29] para pupuntahan po talaga [1:29:31] yung mga wala mong ID. [1:29:32] Alright. [1:29:34] Sir Ramil, [1:29:35] ilan po tayo na, [1:29:36] ilan na populasyon natin? [1:29:38] Para pag may nagtanong po sa akin [1:29:39] yung mga sagot ko ng tama. [1:29:41] As of 2024. [1:29:43] Good morning po, Chair. [1:29:44] As of 2024 po, [1:29:46] dun sa ating naging [1:29:47] census of population, [1:29:49] we have a total of 112 million, [1:29:53] in specific po, [1:29:55] 112,700,727,776 persons. [1:30:06] So 1-1-2-7-2-7-7-7-7-6. [1:30:10] 7-7-6. [1:30:12] Ito po. [1:30:12] Hindi, so wala pa tayo sa 120. [1:30:15] Nasa 112 pa lang tayo. [1:30:17] Yes. [1:30:17] Yes, Chair. [1:30:19] Oh, okay. [1:30:20] As of 2024. [1:30:23] 2024 ng ano po ito? [1:30:26] As of July 1, 2024, [1:30:28] this excludes po Filipinos [1:30:30] in Philippine embassies, [1:30:31] consulates, [1:30:32] and missions abroad. [1:30:34] Yung mga nasa abroad, [1:30:35] binilang nyo na, [1:30:36] hindi pa. [1:30:36] Yung mga nagaantay, [1:30:38] mga permanent resident doon, [1:30:40] mga green card holders, [1:30:42] mga OFW, [1:30:44] binilang nyo na po sila? [1:30:45] Meron po tayong mga OFWs [1:30:47] na counted po doon sa ating, [1:30:49] dahil may reference period po tayo na sinusunod. [1:30:52] So, hindi lahat talaga na nabilang. [1:30:55] Kasi yung mga paano, [1:30:56] yung mga hindi pa naman [1:30:57] American citizen o Japanese [1:30:59] o ano man dyang European citizen, [1:31:02] hindi sila nabilang [1:31:03] dahil sila ay bahagi pa rin, [1:31:05] gumagamit pa rin po sila na Philippine passport. [1:31:07] Ang ating pong official census po, [1:31:10] o yung ating data, [1:31:12] ay excludes po yung mga Filipinos [1:31:14] and Philippine embassies, [1:31:15] consulates, [1:31:16] and missions abroad. [1:31:18] So, kapag naman po na-declare ito [1:31:20] na kanilang mga family members [1:31:21] during the time of visit, [1:31:23] so doon po sila nakokover. [1:31:25] Oh, okay, okay. [1:31:26] All right. [1:31:27] Sige, sige. [1:31:28] All right. [1:31:29] Thank you. [1:31:29] Thank you, Mr. Ramil. [1:31:31] Madam Comsec. [1:31:33] Yes, last to present their position [1:31:36] is the Department of Budget and Management, [1:31:40] represented by Atty. Tricia Barahan. [1:31:44] Good morning, Mr. Chair, [1:31:45] and to everyone present in this meeting. [1:31:47] First of all, [1:31:48] we support the intention of the bill. [1:31:51] On the proposed program management office, [1:31:54] the same should be subject [1:31:56] to the review and evaluation of the DBM [1:31:58] to ensure compliance with our organization [1:32:01] and other pertinent lawsuits and regulations, [1:32:03] and also in accordance [1:32:05] with the government optimization program, [1:32:08] Mr. Chair. [1:32:09] And as to the funding for the purpose, [1:32:11] the same should be subject [1:32:12] to the usual budget preparation process, [1:32:15] and we encourage the convergence [1:32:17] with other government agencies [1:32:19] to ensure that there will be [1:32:21] no duplication of benefits, [1:32:23] beneficiaries, [1:32:24] and of course, [1:32:25] to maximize the utilization [1:32:26] of limited public funds. [1:32:28] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [1:32:29] All right. [1:32:30] So, yung pong takakatanungan ko sana, [1:32:32] Attorney Trisha Barahan, [1:32:35] yung budgetary implications po nito [1:32:37] pag-institutionalizing SLP, [1:32:39] syempre, [1:32:40] we really have to allocate budget po rito, [1:32:43] kapartikular na [1:32:44] yung karagdagang mga [1:32:46] personnel, [1:32:48] project development officers [1:32:50] ng DSWD. [1:32:54] Yes, Mr. Chair, [1:32:54] as long as [1:32:55] ma-evaluate na po yun ng DBM [1:32:57] and okay naman po rin. [1:32:59] It will be funded po [1:33:01] annually. [1:33:02] Ako ma, [1:33:03] marami na kayong utang. [1:33:04] Meron pa yung social worker natin [1:33:06] sa DSWD, [1:33:07] ilan libo pa yun. [1:33:09] Wala pa rin po sa plantilya. [1:33:10] Wala pa rin, [1:33:11] di ba, [1:33:12] social worker po sila, [1:33:13] pero parang job order pa lamang po. [1:33:15] Wala pong kasiguruhan. [1:33:17] I think, [1:33:18] we really have to focus this. [1:33:20] Napakahira po kasi noon, [1:33:22] Attorney Trisha, [1:33:23] siguro maganda eh, [1:33:24] parating niyo po doon sa secretary. [1:33:27] Tumutulong ka, [1:33:27] pero yung sarili mo, [1:33:28] hindi mo matulungan. [1:33:29] Hindi mo alam kung [1:33:29] wala ka ng trabaho bukas, [1:33:31] di ba, [1:33:32] hindi ka na ma-extend. [1:33:33] That's the problem, [1:33:34] that's their problem at DSWD. [1:33:37] As we speak, [1:33:38] ilan libo po na social worker. [1:33:40] Social workers po sila, [1:33:42] nag-exam po sila, [1:33:43] parang mga engineers din. [1:33:44] But then again, [1:33:46] wala nga mahal na trabaho eh, [1:33:47] pinagtsatsagaan na lang po yan. [1:33:49] I think you have to, [1:33:50] you guys will have to sit down, [1:33:52] but that's another matter. [1:33:53] Ang sinasabi ko, [1:33:54] I'm just bringing that to your attention, [1:33:55] na we're talking about SLP, [1:33:58] we need people, [1:34:00] and then yung doon mismo sa department, [1:34:03] maraming social workers [1:34:04] na hindi pa regular, [1:34:06] yun ang problema, [1:34:07] and hindi pa na-allocate na ng pondo. [1:34:09] Sana, [1:34:10] I wish, [1:34:11] nilapit ko na yan dati, [1:34:13] si Secretary Rex, [1:34:15] nilapit na rin, [1:34:16] apubahan niya ata siya ng ilan, [1:34:17] ng DBM. [1:34:19] Sana, [1:34:19] na next year, [1:34:21] mag-allocate ang DBM ng budget [1:34:24] para sa regularization [1:34:25] ng mga employees na ito. [1:34:27] Okay. [1:34:28] Komsek? [1:34:31] Sir, [1:34:31] we no longer have, [1:34:33] do not have resource persons. [1:34:36] Okay. [1:34:36] I thank our resource persons [1:34:40] for sharing with this committee [1:34:42] valuable comments [1:34:43] and recommendations on SLP. [1:34:46] Rest assured, [1:34:47] we will carefully examine [1:34:48] your positions and submissions [1:34:50] as we collaborate [1:34:51] to implement [1:34:52] significant improvements. [1:34:54] I anticipate [1:34:55] your continued cooperation. [1:34:57] Let me remind our resource persons [1:34:59] to submit your respective [1:35:01] position favors [1:35:02] to elaborate on the opinions, [1:35:04] the positions you have expressed today. [1:35:07] We really need this, [1:35:09] this kind of programs, [1:35:11] this kind of [1:35:12] government assistance. [1:35:18] Every year, [1:35:20] every administration [1:35:22] keeps on talking [1:35:23] alleviate poverty, [1:35:24] alleviate [1:35:25] mayangat ang buhay ng Pilipino. [1:35:29] Simula ng pinanganak po ako, [1:35:31] naririnig ko na po ito [1:35:33] to alleviate [1:35:34] na maging journalist po ako [1:35:35] for some 30 years [1:35:37] to alleviate [1:35:38] ilang administration [1:35:40] ang dumaan. [1:35:41] It's always a promise. [1:35:43] Tapos lalo na po [1:35:43] pag-eleksyon, [1:35:45] pangako dito, [1:35:46] pangako doon, [1:35:48] maganda pakinggan [1:35:48] kasi syempre marami po tayo, [1:35:50] most of us are like [1:35:51] living below poverty line. [1:35:55] So, [1:35:56] yehey, [1:35:56] palakpakan, [1:35:57] pag itong binoto ko, [1:35:58] nagagamit po ito eh, [1:36:00] nagagamit itong mga ganitong [1:36:01] pangako na [1:36:02] pag binoto ko pala ito, [1:36:04] gaganda yung buhay ko, [1:36:05] aasenso. [1:36:07] Unfortunately, [1:36:07] yung lahong nangyayari [1:36:08] na lahat po eh [1:36:09] napako lang. [1:36:10] It's just a promise. [1:36:11] So, [1:36:12] I hope that [1:36:13] with this, [1:36:14] during this time, [1:36:16] during this administration, [1:36:17] may magawa po tayo rito [1:36:18] na talagang truly, [1:36:20] it will be able [1:36:21] to help people [1:36:22] alleviate from poverty, [1:36:24] take them out [1:36:25] of their [1:36:25] ikang [1:36:25] misery, [1:36:27] yung mga hindi po [1:36:29] nakakain [1:36:29] because wala po talagang [1:36:30] pangkain, [1:36:31] because there's no [1:36:32] livelihood, [1:36:32] because there's no money, [1:36:34] there's no work. [1:36:35] So, [1:36:36] siguro maganda dito [1:36:37] yung mga wala pong [1:36:37] trabaho, [1:36:38] bigyan po natin [1:36:38] ng ganito [1:36:39] para ikanga [1:36:40] mabuhay. [1:36:41] Even my office, [1:36:43] DSW, [1:36:44] the everyday [1:36:45] people come to my office [1:36:47] and asking for [1:36:48] pangpuhunan, [1:36:50] pangkabuhayan, [1:36:51] we give out. [1:36:52] Anong gusto nyo? [1:36:53] Magba-barbecue, [1:36:54] magkano? [1:36:54] We give out, [1:36:55] 5,000 po, [1:36:56] ganon. [1:36:57] Magbukas po ako [1:36:57] na sarisari, [1:36:58] so 10,000. [1:37:00] We do that. [1:37:01] I mean, [1:37:01] out of our own, [1:37:02] mubutin lang po, [1:37:03] may foundation po yung [1:37:04] nanay ko. [1:37:04] That's what we were [1:37:05] getting because [1:37:06] lahat po ng tao. [1:37:08] And then, [1:37:08] nagpa-follow up po kami, [1:37:09] nagninegosyo nga talaga [1:37:10] kasi alam nyo na [1:37:12] she or he has to [1:37:14] use that money [1:37:15] wisely to survive [1:37:16] dahil may mga anak po siya. [1:37:18] Hindi naman niya [1:37:19] na luawaldasin niya, [1:37:20] lulustayin. [1:37:21] May mga interviews [1:37:22] din po kami [1:37:23] ginagawa. [1:37:23] So, [1:37:24] this is very important, [1:37:25] this kind of program, [1:37:26] project of the government [1:37:28] that we really have [1:37:28] to push through, [1:37:29] na sana may ipasa nga po [1:37:30] talaga, [1:37:31] at sana may madagdagan. [1:37:33] Rest assured, [1:37:33] come this budget season, [1:37:36] I will take a closer look [1:37:37] in this, [1:37:38] and I will make sure [1:37:39] na ito pong SLP natin [1:37:40] madagdagan [1:37:41] para mas marami po tayong [1:37:43] beneficiaries, [1:37:44] mas marami tayong matutulungan. [1:37:46] Alright? [1:37:47] Anyway, [1:37:47] with that, [1:37:48] the chairman [1:37:49] hereby suspend [1:37:49] this public hearing. [1:37:51] The committee will inform you [1:37:52] on the next schedule. [1:37:53] Please submit your position papers, [1:37:55] recommendations, [1:37:56] et cetera. [1:37:57] And thank you for attending. [1:37:59] Magandang tanghali po [1:38:00] sa ating lahat.