Carville issues STARK warning to Dems: 'This is a bridge too far'

[0:00] JAMES CARVILLE, THANK YOU SO [0:02] MUCH FOR JOINING ME AGAIN THIS [0:03] MORNING ON A VERY BIG WEEK. [0:05] THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME. [0:06] YEAH, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU. [0:07] I WANT TO START BY ASKING YOU [0:09] ABOUT CHEVALLEA. [0:10] SHE, OF COURSE, IS THE DEMOCRATIC [0:11] NOMINEE IN CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT [0:13] 13. [0:13] POLITICO SAYS THE DEMS ALREADY [0:15] HAD AOC. [0:16] NOW THEY HAVE DAC. [0:18] WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON [0:20] CHEVALLEA BEING A LEADER OF THE [0:22] PARTY POTENTIALLY? [0:23] I DON'T THINK THAT THE [0:26] CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS SHOULD [0:27] SEAT HER AS A MEMBER OF THE [0:28] DEMOCRATIC PARTY. [0:29] SHE'S ACTUALLY DESCRIBED HERSELF [0:31] AS A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. [0:32] I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN COMMON [0:35] WITH SOMEONE THAT SAYS THAT [0:36] THEY'RE AGAINST INTERRACIAL [0:37] DATING OR DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE [0:40] ANY INCARCERATION FOR CONVICTED [0:43] FELONS. [0:43] THAT'S JUST NOT WHO I THINK THE [0:46] DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS. [0:47] THEY WOULD LET HER BE A DEMOCRATIC [0:49] SOCIALIST. [0:49] I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD, YOU [0:52] KNOW, YOU CAN'T KICK OUT OF [0:53] CONGRESS. [0:54] SHE WAS VOTED BUT SHE DOESN'T HAVE [0:55] TO BE IN A DEMOCRATIC [0:56] CAUCUS. [0:56] YOU WANT HER OUT OF THE [1:00] DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS AND SHE'S NOT [1:01] IN ISOLATION. [1:02] THERE ARE OTHER SOCIALISTS AS [1:04] WELL, THREE OF WHOM WON IN NEW [1:06] YORK ON TUESDAY NIGHT. [1:07] I WANT TO ASK YOU, THOUGH, YOU [1:09] SAY SHE'S NOT THE DEMOCRATIC [1:10] PARTY BUT WE DO HAVE THIS POLL [1:11] THAT I WANT TO PULL UP AND IT [1:12] SHOWS THE NET FAVORABILITY FOR [1:13] SOCIALISM WITHIN THE PARTY IS [1:15] THAT 66%. [1:16] SO HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH NOT [1:18] WELCOMING THEM IN THE PARTY WHEN [1:19] YOUR BASE IS SAYING WE'RE OKAY [1:20] WITH THIS IDEA? [1:21] FIRST OF ALL, EVERYBODY HAS A [1:25] DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF WHAT [1:26] SOCIALISM IS. [1:27] A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT SAY [1:29] THAT SOCIAL SECURITY IS SOCIALISM. [1:31] PEOPLE AT MY PARTY, THEY THINK [1:33] IT'S A GOOD IDEA. [1:35] IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE [1:37] STATE CONTROLLING PRODUCTION, [1:39] UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES BUT [1:41] SOCIALISM IS A WORD THAT GETS [1:43] THROWN AROUND AND MOST PEOPLE [1:45] THAT USE IT ARE NOT ACQUAINTED [1:46] WITH WHAT IT MEANS. [1:47] YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO PLACES LIKE [1:50] SCANDANAVIA WHO TEND TO BE MUCH [1:52] MORE SOCIALISM THAN WE ARE. [1:54] IF ANYTHING, MORE DEMOCRATIC [1:56] THAN WE ARE. [1:58] BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE [2:01] DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AT ALL. [2:03] THAT'S ONE THING. [2:04] HOW THEY VOTE IS ANOTHER. [2:06] JASON CROWD, WE'VE RECRUITED [2:08] VETERANS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. [2:10] VOTE DEFTS. [2:11] WE WENT IN A LOT OF SEATS LIKE [2:13] THAT. [2:14] THESE ARE THE KIND OF DEMOCRATS [2:15] THAT I WANT TO HELP AND BE A [2:17] PART OF THE SAME PARTY. [2:18] I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN COMMON [2:19] WITH MS. CHEVALIA AND I REALLY [2:21] DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE SAME [2:22] PARTY SHE'S IN. [2:23] SO JAMES, ALYSSA SLOTKIN IS [2:25] SOMEONE WHO IS WIDELY HAILED AS [2:26] A GREAT CANDIDATE AS A DEMOCRAT. [2:27] SHE OUTPERFORMED KAMALA HARRIS [2:28] BY 1%. [2:29] SHE WON THE STATE. [2:30] SHE GAVE THE STATE OF THE UNION [2:31] RESPONSE. [2:32] SHE CAME OUT THIS MORNING AND SAID [2:33] THAT SHE WANTS NEW LEADERSHIP [2:35] WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BOTH [2:37] IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE. [2:38] WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? [2:40] WELL, THAT, FIRST OF ALL, I'M [2:42] CRAZY ABOUT SENATOR SLOTKIN. [2:43] THAT'S HER JOB. [2:44] SHE'S THE UNITED STATES SENATE. [2:45] SHE GETS TO VOTE ON WHO THE [2:47] LEADERSHIP IS. [2:48] MY JOB IS TO HELP TO TRY TO GET [2:50] HER AS MANY VOTES AS SHE CAN TO [2:52] AFFECT HOW TO VOTE THAT. [2:53] BUT I'M JUST DON'T GET INTO [2:56] LEADERSHIP STRUGGLES OR LEADERSHIP [2:58] CHOICES. [2:59] THAT'S UP FOR PEOPLE INDIVIDUALLY [3:01] TO MAKE. [3:02] SO, I MEAN, BUT I'M CRAZY ABOUT [3:04] HER. [3:05] YOU'RE RIGHT. [3:06] SHE WON IN A STATE WHILE TRUMP [3:08] WAS CARRYING IN MICHIGAN. [3:09] SHE WON IT. [3:10] WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO HER ON [3:12] A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. [3:13] I'M A BIG FAN OF SENATOR SLOTKIN. [3:14] OKAY. [3:15] FAIR THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GET [3:17] INVOLVED IN THE LEADERSHIP [3:18] WITHIN CONGRESS BECAUSE YOU ARE [3:19] ON THE CAMPAIGN SIDE AFTER ALL. [3:20] I UNDERSTAND THAT. [3:21] RIGHT. [3:22] YOU DID SAY THERE NEEDS TO BE [3:24] DEFINITIVE ACTION BY PARTY [3:25] ELDERS. [3:26] I HEARD YOU SAY THAT IN ANOTHER [3:27] INTERVIEW. [3:28] I'M WONDERING WHAT YOU THINK THAT [3:29] WOULD BE LIKE AND WHO THAT [3:32] SHOULD BE. [3:33] I GUESS I'M GOING TO THINK OF [3:35] WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE [3:37] CONTEXT OF CONGRESSPERSEN OF [3:39] THE DEMOCRAT. [3:40] I WAS THINKING SPECIFICALLY [3:43] ABOUT THE NEW YORK RACE AND [3:45] CHEVALLE. [3:46] I JUST CAN'T SEE HOW SHE CAN BE [3:49] PART OF THE SAME COALITION THAT [3:51] WE'RE ALL PART OF. [3:52] I THINK IT IS A BRIDGE TOO FAR. [3:54] SHE'S TALKING ABOUT USING THE [3:55] AMERICAN FLAG AS A NAPKIN. [3:56] ABOLISHING ICE. [3:57] NO DEPORTATIONS. [3:58] IT'S WILD. [3:59] YEAH. [4:00] IT'S WILD. [4:01] YEAH. [4:02] IT'S WILD. [4:03] YEAH. [4:04] IT'S WILD. [4:05] I UNDERSTAND THAT IN A COALITION [4:06] YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF SLACK IN [4:07] YOUR LINE BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY [4:08] IS GOING TO AGREE WITH ME. [4:09] BUT THIS IS JUST AS THEY WOULD [4:11] SAY THIS IS A BRIDGE TOO FAR. [4:12] THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN PUT [4:13] IT. [4:14] A BRIDGE I DON'T WANT TO CROSS. [4:15] I THINK A LOT OF DEMOCRATS FEEL [4:17] DEMOCRATS. [4:18] IT'S WILD. [4:19] YEAH. [4:20] YOU DON'T NEED TO CONVINCE ME. [4:22] THAT'S ONE THING THAT YOU AND I [4:24] ARE IN THE SAME PLACE. [4:25] I PROMISE YOU. [4:26] YES. [4:27] I'M SURE WE ARE IN THE SAME PLACE [4:29] ON THAT. [4:30] YOU'VE BEEN VERY VOCAL ON IT. [4:31] I'M WONDERING BECAUSE SENATOR [4:32] FETTERMAN CAME OUT AND SAID WHY [4:33] AM I THE ONLY DEMOCRAT IN THE U.S. [4:35] SENATE THAT REFUSES TO EXCUSE [4:36] THIS OR DEFEND ANY OF THESE [4:38] SELF-IDENTIFIED COMMUNISTS. [4:39] HE HAS SLOT CANAL WHO IS ON BOARD [4:40] WITH HIM. [4:41] THERE WERE 13 DEMOCRATS IN THE [4:42] HOUSE WHO SAID HEY WE ARE NOT ON [4:44] BOARD WITH THIS. [4:45] I'M WONDERING DO YOU THINK MORE [4:47] WILL COME ON BOARD? [4:48] WHY ARE MORE NOT ON BOARD NOW [4:50] AND CALLING THIS OUT THE WAY [4:51] LET'S SAY FETTERMAN HAS? [4:54] THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT SAY [4:56] THEY ARE ON BOARD. [4:57] THEY HAVE BEEN ASKED ABOUT IT. [4:59] WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW IS HOW MANY [5:01] MORE ARE COMING. [5:02] BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO THROW THE [5:04] IDEA OUT AND IT'S SOMETHING [5:06] THAT DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO [5:07] ANSWER FOR. [5:08] IF YOU WANT TO HAVE POLITICAL [5:09] POWER OF WHICH WE DO AND WHICH I [5:11] THINK WE WILL REQUIRE COME [5:13] NOVEMBER, YOU HAVE TO ANSWER [5:14] THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS. [5:15] YOU SHOULDN'T DUCK THEM. [5:17] I THINK THERE WILL BE SOMETHING [5:19] TO DEAL WITH. [5:20] HAKIM IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL [5:22] WITH THIS. [5:23] IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. [5:24] I'M SURE HE UNDERSTANDS AND [5:25] KNOWS THAT. [5:26] BUT TO THIS EXTENT OF THIS ONE [5:29] INSTANCE I THINK THE DEMOCRATS [5:31] NEED TO STAND UP AND SAY THIS IS [5:33] NOT WHO WE ARE. [5:34] WE DO NOT DETERMINE WHO YOU CAN [5:36] DATE OR NOT DATE. [5:37] THAT IS YOUR OWN BUSINESS. [5:38] YOU CAN DATE WHOEVER YOU WANT. [5:40] WHEN YOU START TELLING PEOPLE [5:42] THEY CAN'T DATE SOMEBODY OF A [5:43] DIFFERENT RACE OR A DIFFERENT [5:45] GENDER OR WHATEVER THE HELL IT [5:46] IS. [5:47] IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS. [5:48] IT'S NEVER BEEN ANY OF MY [5:49] BUSINESS AND CERTAINLY NOT [5:50] NOW. [5:51] I JUST THINK THAT'S NOT WHY MOST [5:54] PEOPLE ARE DEMOCRATS. [5:55] WE ARE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE WE [5:56] DON'T HATE ANYBODY. [5:57] YOU ARE REFERRING TO [5:59] CHEVALIA WHO MADE BIZARRE [6:00] COMMENTS ABOUT NOT SUPPORTING [6:01] BIRACIAL MARRIAGE WHICH IS [6:02] VERY STRANGE TO MAKE THAT [6:03] COMMENT. [6:04] IT IS. [6:05] FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU. [6:07] YOU TALKED ABOUT A SCHISM. [6:08] IT'S TIME FOR DEMOCRATS TO TALK [6:10] ABOUT A SCHISM. [6:11] WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN [6:12] PRACTICE? [6:13] YOU SAID NOT SEEDING SOME OF [6:15] THESE MEMBERS IN CONGRESS, [6:17] CALLING THEM OUT VERBALLY. [6:18] WHAT KIND OF SCHISM ARE YOU [6:19] TALKING ABOUT? [6:20] I GUESS THE SCHISM I WAS [6:23] TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY WAS [6:24] THE SCHISM WITH THE DSA. [6:29] I MEAN, THAT'S THE START OF IT. [6:31] AGAIN, I WANT TO BE CLEAR. [6:32] I BELIEVE IN A BIG TOWN. [6:33] I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE TO AGREE [6:34] WITH ME. [6:35] IF YOU CAN BE FOR MEDICARE FOR [6:36] ALL, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS A [6:37] PARTICULARLY GOOD IDEA, BUT I [6:38] GOT THAT. [6:39] FINE. [6:40] I WOULD CAMPAIGN. [6:41] I WOULD HELP YOU. [6:42] I MEAN, YOU SAID A DIFFERENT [6:44] VIEW ABOUT HOW TO EXPAND [6:45] HEALTH CARE. [6:46] YOU ARE GOING TOO FAR WHEN YOU [6:47] START. [6:48] IF YOU WANT TO SAY AS I DO, I [6:49] THINK THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL [6:52] MAKES HORRIFIC DECISIONS. [6:53] I DON'T SUPPORT THEM IN ANY WAY. [6:55] THAT'S FINE. [6:56] I AGREE WITH YOU. [6:57] BUT WHEN YOU SAY ISRAEL SHOULD [6:59] NOT EXIST, THEN I'M GONE. [7:00] YOU LEFT THE HOUSE WITH ME. [7:02] THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENCE [7:04] BETWEEN NOT LIKING A REGIME OR [7:06] A GOVERNMENT AND DENYING THAT [7:08] SOME PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO [7:09] EXIST. [7:10] I THINK WE SHOULD DRAW A VERY [7:12] CLEAR LINE THERE. [7:13] WE WILL SEE IF MORE [7:14] DEMOCRATS COME ON BOARD TO [7:15] THAT POSITION. [7:16] JAMES CARVILLE, THANK YOU SO [7:17] MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. [7:18] THANK YOU SO MUCH. [7:19] THANK YOU SO MUCH. [7:20] THANK YOU SO MUCH.