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"Could you talk a little bit about why your Navy Secretary was fired yesterday, sir? Secretary Mnuchin, Jr.: He's a wonderful guy. I just put out a statement about him. Very — he's a very good man. I love — I really liked him. But he had some conflict with — not necessarily, Pete, with some other —..."
[0:00] Could you talk a little bit about why your Navy
[0:02] Secretary was fired yesterday, sir?
[0:04] Secretary Mnuchin, Jr.: He's a wonderful guy.
[0:06] I just put out a statement about him.
[0:08] Very — he's a very good man.
[0:09] I love — I really liked him.
[0:10] But he had some conflict with — not necessarily,
[0:14] Pete, with some other — he's a hard charger.
[0:16] And he had some conflicts with some other people,
[0:19] mostly as to building and buying new ships.
[0:23] I'm very aggressive in the new shipbuilding.
[0:26] And somehow, he just didn't get along with them.
[0:29] He's an excellent guy.
[0:31] I think he would have gotten along great with me.
[0:33] I didn't really deal with him too much.
[0:34] But he's a — you know, I consider him to have done a very good job.
[0:39] I put out a nice statement about him.
[0:42] You've got to get along, especially in the military.
[0:44] You've got to get along, you know.
[0:46] And some people liked him.
[0:48] Some people didn't.
[0:49] And that's usually the truth about everything.
[0:52] But I found him to be a very good man.
[0:53] And I liked him a lot.
[0:55] The Pressure on the war with Iran.
[0:59] How long are you willing to wait until you get a unified response?
[1:02] Well, don't rush me.
[1:02] Don't rush me, Jeff.
[1:05] You know, guys like you, you want to say,
[1:06] Oh, so we were in Vietnam, like, for 18 years.
[1:09] We were in Iraq for many, many years.
[1:12] We were in for all the — I don't like to say World War II,
[1:15] because that was a biggie.
[1:17] But we were four and a half, almost five years in World War II.
[1:20] We were in the Korean War for seven years.
[1:23] I've been doing this for six weeks.
[1:27] And we're — their military is totally defeated.
[1:29] They're — they're outside of the little Wiseguy ships.
[1:34] I call them the Wiseguy ships, the little boats that they have,
[1:37] running around with guns in them.
[1:40] We'll take them out, too, when we see them.
[1:43] But their Navy is gone.
[1:44] Their Air Force is gone.
[1:46] Their anti-aircraft is gone.
[1:48] All of their anti-aircraft machinery is gone.
[1:51] Maybe they loaded up a little bit during the two-week hiatus.
[1:54] But we'll knock that out in about one day, if they did.
[1:58] We've done an amazing job.
[1:59] Their leaders are gone.
[2:00] You know, their leaders are all gone.
[2:02] Part of the problem is that — that's why I can't really answer your question —
[2:07] they have all new leadership, and they're fighting like cats and dogs
[2:10] for who's going to control.
[2:13] Because we've created a real mess for them,
[2:16] but they've created a mess for the world over the last 47 years.
[2:20] They've killed a lot of our people.
[2:22] When you see a soldier, a young person or now an older person,
[2:26] but a person without legs or without arms or with a face that got blown to pieces,
[2:31] most likely it was from Iran.
[2:33] That was Soleimani who I killed.
[2:36] Soleimani loved the roadside bomb.
[2:38] He was an evil genius.
[2:39] He was a brilliant general.
[2:40] Probably we wouldn't be as far advanced had I not taken him out.
[2:43] That was the beginning of it all.
[2:46] And then I ended the Obama horror show.
[2:50] The nuclear transaction that he made was horror.
[2:54] It gave him a road to the — you call it — I mean, what the deal that he did,
[2:59] the Iran nuclear deal, was so bad, it gave him a road to a nuclear weapon.
[3:03] And I will tell you, I deal with him.
[3:05] You cannot give Iran a nuclear weapon.
[3:07] This is all about a nuclear weapon.
[3:08] They cannot have the nuclear bomb, and they're not going to have the nuclear bomb.
[3:12] So we've taken out their military.
[3:14] We've hit about 75 percent of our targets.
[3:17] We stopped a little early because they wanted to have some peace.
[3:22] And we have a blockade that's 100 percent effective,
[3:29] and they're getting no business.
[3:31] And as you know, they're not doing well economically, financially.
[3:35] They're not doing any business because of the blockade.
[3:38] They want to make a deal.
[3:39] We have been speaking to them, but they don't even know
[3:43] who's leading the country.
[3:44] They're in turmoil.
[3:46] They're in turmoil.
[3:46] So we thought we'd give them a little chance to get some of their turmoil resolved.
[3:51] But, you know, and I hope the fake news — people like you —
[3:55] I hope the fake news are going to be able to write about it accurately.
[3:57] Because when you say, oh, they're fighting very well —
[3:59] they're not fighting well.
[4:00] They were — they've been obliterated, Jeff.
[4:02] Obliterated.
[4:05] 159 ships are in the Navy.
[4:07] You know how many ships are at the bottom of the sea, Jeff?
[4:11] 159.
[4:14] So, you know, and if you read the New York Times,
[4:17] the failing New York Times, subscriptions are way down, as you know.
[4:21] That's because people don't believe this stuff anymore.
[4:24] If you watch CNN, you'd think that they're doing well in the war.
[4:27] They're not doing well.
[4:28] They're getting absolutely decimated.
[4:31] Now, with all of that being said, we'll see what happens.
[4:34] They have a lot of — we have no pressure.
[4:36] It's only guys like you with a question like that about,
[4:39] what's your time — we've been doing it for five and a half weeks.
[4:42] But, sir, it's been eight weeks that the U.S. now has been involved with Iran.
[4:47] You had initially said it would be four to six weeks.
[4:49] Well, I hope that, but I also took a little break.
[4:52] I gave them a break.
[4:53] And remember this, I want to make the best deal.
[4:58] I could make a deal right now.
[4:59] Do you know that if I left right now, we had a tremendous success.
[5:03] It would take them 20 years to rebuild.
[5:05] But I don't want to do that.
[5:06] I want to have it everlasting.
[5:08] I want to have it where they never get — they never have a chance to get — I mean,
[5:12] the way you asked that question, yeah, I did say it.
[5:14] I thought it would take four to six weeks.
[5:17] And I was right, because at the end of six weeks, at the end of four weeks,
[5:21] the military was decimated.
[5:23] But now what I'm doing — I don't — I can't tell you that.
[5:26] I don't want to put that kind of a timetable on it, but it'll go pretty quickly.
[5:30] And we'll have the strait opened up.
[5:34] Now, right now, we have it closed.
[5:35] We have total control of the strait, and the fact that it's closed — you know,
[5:39] they would have opened it up three days ago.
[5:40] They came to us, and they said, we will agree to open the strait.
[5:45] And all my people were happy.
[5:46] Everybody was happy except me.
[5:47] I said, wait a minute.
[5:48] If we open the strait, that means they're going to make $500 million a day.
[5:52] I don't want them to make $500 million a day until they settle this thing.
[5:56] So I'm the one that kept it closed.
[5:58] We have total control of it.
[6:00] And it'll open when they make a deal, or something else happens that's very positive.
[6:05] But what is the impression that the American — excuse me — what do you say to the American
[6:08] people who question how much longer this will take?
[6:11] Obviously, you know that they are having —
[6:13] You hear such a disgrace.
[6:14] Did you hear what I just said?
[6:16] Vietnam.
[6:16] How many years was Vietnam?
[6:18] I understand, sir.
[6:18] But you are past your six-week deadline.
[6:20] Well, I did my — I took —
[6:22] I took —
[6:23] I took the country out militarily in the first four weeks.
[6:30] I took it out militarily.
[6:33] Now what we're doing is sitting back and seeing what deal.
[6:36] And if they don't want to make a deal, then I'll finish it up
[6:39] militarily with the other 25 percent of the targets.
[6:41] We've hit 78 percent of the targets that we've wanted to hit.
[6:45] We've knocked out their manufacturing.
[6:47] We've knocked out their missile production.
[6:49] We've knocked out their drone production.
[6:51] We've knocked out everything.
[6:52] In some cases, when I say knocked it out 70, 80, 90 percent,
[6:58] it's amazing what we've done.
[7:00] So I've done that within that period of time that I mentioned.
[7:03] But I don't want to rush myself, you know, because every story says,
[7:06] oh, Trump is under time pressure.
[7:07] I'm not — no, no.
[7:08] You know who's under time pressure?
[7:09] They are.
[7:10] Because if they don't get their oil moving,
[7:12] their whole oil infrastructure is going to explode.
[7:15] You know what that means?
[7:17] Because they have no place to store it.
[7:19] And because they have no place to store it, if they have to stop it,
[7:23] something happens that only Len can explain.
[7:26] Something happens underground that essentially renders it in very poor shape,
[7:32] and you never recover fully.
[7:34] You can recover 50, 60 percent, but you can never have it like it is right now.
[7:38] And they have a matter of days before that event takes place.
[7:42] So I'm not under any pressure whatsoever.
[7:45] We've never had so much ammunition.
[7:47] Our ships are loaded.
[7:49] I call them locked and loaded.
[7:50] They're locked and loaded.
[7:51] They're ready to go.
[7:52] We have much higher quality equipment than we did when we first started the war
[7:58] and — or the military operation, whatever you want to call it.
[8:02] And they're coming to us.
[8:04] The problem they have is they are very disorganized right now.
[8:08] Well, now yesterday — and I was very pleased with this —
[8:11] eight young women were going to be
[8:14] executed yesterday afternoon at six o'clock.
[8:17] And I asked them, call it a favor or call it just a moral request
[8:24] that they not be executed.
[8:25] And they came back with an answer that they won't be executed.
[8:28] They're going to release — it was protesting —
[8:31] eight beautiful young women, very young women.
[8:34] And they were — the pictures are in the paper.
[8:36] And it's been a story for a little while, and I saw that.
[8:38] And I said, let's see if we can save them.
[8:41] And they were — it was very nice what happened.
[8:44] So they're not going to be — what they're doing is, as you know,
[8:47] they're releasing four of them very shortly.
[8:50] And they're going to keep four of them in jail for a period of one month and release them.
[8:54] So they won't be executed. Yeah, please.
[8:55] So if you're asking for more time to sort out negotiations —
[8:58] I'm not asking you for more time. I'm not asking for them, no.
[9:01] It's not more time. I'm just — I'm not asking anybody for more time.
[9:04] If you need more time, does that mean Americans should anticipate
[9:08] spending more on gasoline for the foreseeable future?
[9:11] For a little while. And you know what they get for that?
[9:13] You know what they get for that? Iran without a nuclear weapon
[9:16] that's going to try and blow up one of our cities or blow up the entire Middle East.
[9:20] You want to see what shock would be? And I have to be honest,
[9:24] the stock market is at an all-time high right now.
[9:28] I thought it would have been down 20, 25 percent.
[9:30] When we hit — wait a minute. Can I finish my question?
[9:33] Wise guy. Stock market's at an all-time high right now.
[9:39] I projected — and I'm pretty good at this — that the stock market, Howard, would drop
[9:43] maybe 20 percent, 25 percent. And I understood that. And I said,
[9:48] hey, it's a bad thing, but I have to do what's right for the country, even the world,
[9:51] because you can't have them — you cannot let them have a nuclear weapon.
[9:55] So the stock market, unlike what a lot of people were predicting,
[10:01] I thought they weren't necessarily wrong. The stock market today hit an all-time high.
[10:06] Hit an all-time high yesterday, the day before. And it's staying there.
[10:10] I thought oil would go up to maybe $200 a barrel. And oil is a very different number than anyone
[10:18] thought. In fact, this country is much lower, because we have all the oil we can use.
[10:23] We're actually — ships are coming from all over the world to Texas, Louisiana, and Alaska.
[10:28] They're coming from all over the world to get oil from the United States, you know,
[10:32] while this is closed, the Hormones Strait. So if you look at what I said,
[10:39] I guess it was right, because I said I'd have it four to six weeks. And in four weeks,
[10:43] we have totally defeated that military. So right now, I don't want to rush it,
[10:47] because you guys are, you know, trying to make us look as bad as possible.
[10:51] I don't want to rush it. I want to take my time. We have plenty of time.
[10:54] And I want to get a great deal. I want to get a deal where our nation and the world is safe
[10:58] from lunatics with nuclear weapons.
[11:01] And if it does — if it does go to 200, are you okay with that, sir?
[11:05] If oil goes to 200?
[11:07] I think that there's nothing worse than a nuclear weapon that takes out one of your
[11:11] cities or two of your cities or three. I think there's nothing worse than a nuclear weapon
[11:15] that's going to destroy the Middle East, including Israel. I think there's nothing worse than Europe
[11:21] being under-attacked by people that have missiles now that reach Europe, as you know. They don't reach
[11:26] us, but they reach Europe. But they will reach us at some time. And probably the not-too-distant
[11:31] future, unless we stop them now. I think there would be nothing worse than having nuclear holocaust
[11:37] in Europe, London, Paris, various places in Germany, all targeted. No. What I — what I say is,
[11:48] you can't let them have — I don't think it will happen, by the way. I really think we — we actually — it
[11:53] turns out that we are Drill Baby Drill. And it turns out we're producing a lot of oil,
[11:58] and they're buying the oil. They're going to Alaska. They're going to Texas, Louisiana.
[12:04] And our guys have done a fantastic job. We're putting out, right now, more oil and gas than
[12:08] we ever have in the history of our country. And one other thing — there are more people employed
[12:13] today in the United States than ever in the history of our country. Okay.
[12:17] Mr. President, I have a question, sir. Is it true that your administration is considering
[12:21] sending 1,100 Afghans to the Democratic Republic of Congo? And if so, do you have a response?
[12:26] Mr. I don't know. I'd have to check that.
[12:27] Mr. President, do you plan to pick up —
[12:29] Mr. President, please.
[12:30] Mr. Thank you, Mr. President.
[12:31] Breitbart News' Matt Boyle just published an interview with Greek
[12:35] Prime Minister Mitsotakis, in which the Prime Minister said that he's rooting for you to
[12:39] succeed in getting a deal with Iran. And he also said he looks forward to hosting you in Greece
[12:44] later this year. Do you have any response?
[12:45] Mr. No, it's really nice. I mean, Greece has been very supportive, actually.
[12:50] Greece has been terrific. He's a terrific guy, because he understands the importance of it.
[12:54] You know, oil goes up a little bit. I hate it. You know, I was the one that had it down to $60 a
[13:00] barrel. And I looked at guys like Howard Lutnick — Howard, you remember it well — I said,
[13:05] well, we just hit an all-time high in the history of the market. Think of this. When we hit 50,000,
[13:12] I was told — everybody was told — when I won the election, November 5th, they said, well, during the
[13:18] four-year period, it'll be impossible for the Dow to ever reach 50,000. It'll be impossible for the
[13:24] S&P to ever hit 7,000. Impossible. And you remember that, Howard, right? It was going to hit maybe six,
[13:30] seven years, eight years. But I did it in my first year — hit 50,000. Now it's just about at 50,000.
[13:37] And S&P is higher than it was when we started. And S&P hit over 7,000. And that was before the year ended up,
[13:44] one year. So I can only tell you this. It'll end. I don't think it'll be very long, by the way.
[13:51] They're — they're delaying it because they — we don't know who to deal with. They are in — you know,
[13:56] they know who the leader is in this country. We don't know who the leader is in Iran.
[14:02] Because remember regime change. Khomeini is gone. He's gone to greener pastures. He's gone,
[14:08] and all of his team is gone. Then a second group came in. They're all gone. And now you have the third
[14:14] group. And they're a little concerned about being gone, too.
[14:17] Sir, would you use a nuclear weapon against Iran? You posted on Truth Social a few weeks ago.
[14:20] No. We don't need it. Why do I need it? Why would a stupid question like that be asked?
[14:25] Do you — why would I — why would I use a nuclear weapon when we've totally,
[14:29] in a very conventional way, decimated them without it? No, I wouldn't use it. A nuclear weapon
[14:35] should never be allowed to be used by anybody.
[14:37] Sir, have you planned to Iran who's given a timeline of when they could give you a proposal?
[14:41] All very much looking forward to it. Prince Harry today has said that
[14:44] he would like to see you do more to end the war in Ukraine.
[14:47] Do you think it's appropriate for a royal to make those comments ahead of the visit on Monday?
[14:51] Prince Harry? Yes, sir.
[14:52] How's he doing? How's his wife? Please give him my regards, okay?
[14:57] No, I don't know. I think — I know one thing. Prince Harry is not speaking for the UK. That's for sure.
[15:05] I think I'm speaking for the UK more than Prince Harry. But I appreciate his advice very much.
[15:11] Would you like to invite him to the dinner and to the state visit?
[15:14] I look forward to the dinner. We're having King Charles come. He's a friend of mine.
[15:18] We're really looking forward to it. We've spoken. And we're going to have a great time. I tell you,
[15:22] we — if I had that ballroom built, it would be full. I wish we had more seats. You know,
[15:27] they've wanted a new ballroom for 150 years. Now they're getting the best in the world. We're going to
[15:31] have the best in the world. But, you know, we have a little — a room that's not big enough to handle
[15:36] what would be a big crowd. But we're going to have very great people that love the UK. I love the UK.
[15:43] I think they made a big mistake on energy. You should open up the North Sea in Aberdeen.
[15:50] You should open it up. And the other thing is they've made a big mistake on immigration.
[15:54] What do you hope to learn from Janine Pirro's investigation into the Federal Reserve's
[16:07] reservation that you did not learn when you visited the site yourself last year?
[16:11] Well, look, you know, the Federal Reserve Building is a small building. They're going to be in there by
[16:17] the time it opens, in my opinion, for $4 billion. I built a hotel down the road for $201 million that
[16:25] I believe is bigger than the Federal Reserve Building. $201 million. The ballroom — I'm going
[16:30] to have the ballroom from $300 to $400 million, depending on finishes, like marbles to quality
[16:36] and, you know, quality finishes. We'll go top of the line. But that's a much bigger project.
[16:44] When you look at the fact that they've taken this beautiful building and destroyed it,
[16:49] they've taken down the beautiful ceilings with eagles, they've taken down the walls that are a foot
[16:53] and a half thick, masonry. You couldn't hear from office to office. They ripped it all down.
[17:00] They did — they ripped down — because Kevin Warsh, who's terrific, said to you,
[17:04] the saddest thing is they ripped down the nicest building in Washington for boardrooms and all.
[17:08] Did you know about that building? They ripped it down. The boardroom building. It was beautiful.
[17:13] And they ripped it down. And probably because it cost so much to fix it. So I would have done that job
[17:19] for $25 million, had money left over. It's going to cost more than — in my opinion — it's not going to
[17:25] open for a long time. You know, Kevin may not be able to have an office. I'm going to have to get him
[17:29] an office. Can you give him an office? Yes. Yes, space.
[17:31] Bobby, do you have some space over there, please? Yeah, we have a lot of space.
[17:34] But — it's more than you think. But we're going to have Kevin sitting right next to you, Bobby.
[17:41] But it may not open for a long time. I looked at it the other day. It's a see-through. See-through,
[17:45] you know? That means the wall has already been up yet. This is after years and years of construction.
[17:51] And somehow, you have to find out what went wrong. That a small building — I could have done it for
[17:57] $25 million and had money left over. It would have been beautiful — that a small building can cost
[18:03] $4 billion. It may never open. It may never open. And we have to get to that. On top of that,
[18:10] he's been terrible on interest rates because he should have lowered interest rates. That's why I call him
[18:14] Jerome Too Late — Too Late is his nickname. Jerome Too Late, pal. He likes me a lot. Thank you very much.
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