Senate quorum declared; Cayetano fights 'illegal coup' — June 3, 2026

[1:50] Ito sa trial ng kinakaharapin sa 2nd Division ng Anti-Craft Court. [1:59] Sa schedule ng Anti-Craft Court kanina, ay bukot kay Estrada. [2:05] Dapat ay ahaharapin ang dating video ko yung 8 secondhand niya si Manuel Bonoan. [2:10] Pero hindi pa siya napapakita sa kanina hanggang sa mga oras na ito ng 1-1-1. [2:16] So, na dito na po sa 2nd Board ng Anti-Craft Court. [2:26] Natang atin ang minyemre ng kanyang pamila, papasok na sila sa board board. [2:33] So, na dito na po sa mga oras na pagpasokan saification na hindi. [2:40] Laki sila ang mga oras na pagpasokan sa mga oras na sa mga oras. [2:46] At malinan ng oas na ang mga oras na dito. [2:49] So, na malalaman sa mga oras na mga. [2:51] Thank you, you're not here. [2:54] Prevente pa rin yan. [2:56] What's up, yung isyo na siya kakaringan lang? [3:00] May nakaposyan sa naibahay. [3:04] Ang kapalaposyan ng senador. [3:09] Sa may yung isyo na ng ating rap for you, yung nakaposyan ng disisyon. [3:13] Kung makunso, yung makaposyan na hindi. [3:17] Sa mula dito sa pinagbahan, sa agad ngayon ang magiging development. [3:22] Sa kaso ng iso, pumula dito sa ating rap for you. [3:25] Yung taalang marahan ng ka-ante ESCBN. [3:28] Thank you. [3:30] Thank you. [3:31] Thank you. [3:32] Thank you. [3:33] Thank you. [3:34] Thank you. [3:35] Thank you. [3:36] Thank you. [3:37] Thank you. [3:38] Thank you. [3:42] Thank you. [3:46] Thank you. [3:50] Thank you. [3:52] ader. [3:53] developer [3:54] fan [3:57] ngayon [3:59] use [4:02] a [4:03] wan [4:04] suppose [4:04] decided [4:12] to [4:15] help [4:24] snark [4:25] customer [4:36] must [4:39] walk [4:42] jem [4:43] היא [4:44] ang [4:45] speaking [4:47] They're out with you. [5:23] Ito lang yung, sir, diba? [5:42] Hmm, BGMB. [5:45] Maliit lang nga, maliit lang nga. [5:50] Duman lang kayo, sir. [5:52] Malaki yan. [5:56] Malaki yan, may rap-rap yan. [6:00] Ate, diba tayo. [6:03] Malaki yan. [6:04] Malaki yan. [6:08] Orang may rap-rap yan. [6:11] Malaki yan. [6:19] What happened today was a clear abandonment of responsibility, a dereliction of duty, [8:22] and a blatant disregard of the rules that govern this institution. [8:29] Because the Senate cannot be made to stop working simply because its presiding officer refuses to lead. [8:37] Under Rule 14, Section 41, the rules of the Senate, [8:41] the Senate president may postpone the holding of the session after consultation with the majority leader and the minority leader. [8:50] That rule was violated. [8:53] This is not merely a procedural lapse. [8:57] It is a direct violation of the rules of the Senate and a serious disrespect for the institution and the Filipino people. [9:05] Senate President Alan Peter Cayetano should resign as he has shown that he cannot function as the leader of the Senate anymore. [9:16] That is our joint statement of the SQ11, the minority. [9:28] The Senate will be here because that's our duty. [9:43] I will appeal to all our colleagues. [9:47] In case of a 10 session, it is their duty. [9:50] Tinabayaran tayo ng taong bayan para magtrabaho, para mag-legislate, [9:55] hindi para mag-absent-absent naman at mag-bulakbol. [9:58] Sir, para po tomorrow, last session day na po? [10:04] Every day, ang Senate kumagasos ng 25 million kuryente, sa utilities, sa swelto, [10:12] pero walang session nangyari. [10:14] Walang patas na na-approve, walang resolution na-approve, [10:19] pati mga confirmation ng mga military personnel natin. [10:22] Sayang ang bayan ng taong bayan. [10:25] At lahat ito, dahil lamang, sa mga kasamahan nila, [10:30] ay nakakulong. [10:33] Sir, Parliamentary po daw ito, sabi nyo ni S.P. Cayetano, [10:36] para matuloy yung blue ribbon kumitigirig mga Thursday [10:40] at parang hindi nyo kumahagal yung ibang kumitigirig na chairmanship. [10:44] Sabi po sa live diyan. [10:46] Abuse po yan ng sinasabi niyang parliamentary rules ng Senado. [10:51] Hindi po namin hinahadlangan magpatuloy ang anumang pagdinig ng komite [10:57] basta nasa tamang parangin. [10:58] Mabuti, binawi nila yung South Committee. [11:02] And the numbers will always speak for themselves. [11:04] Habang ganito ang bilang namin, kami ang minority. [11:07] Dapat siya rin, si Senate President, at ang majority, [11:10] maging matapang harapin ang mandato o kakulangan ng mandato [11:14] ng buong Senado dito sa Florida. [11:17] Ang masakit niya, na impista po mga si Charito, [11:19] ito ang si S.P. Allen. [11:21] Sa pinnit siya, papasok. [11:23] Dito natin siya magsalita. [11:25] Dito natin siya magsalita. [11:27] Dito natin siya magbibati kung ano yung gusto niyo doi. [11:28] Dito naman sa social media. [11:31] May violation sa rules. [11:32] Sa na'y pwedeng doi? [11:34] Sa pag hindi nila pagdati kumitirang. [11:36] Sa pagdating kumitirang. [11:39] We will be tackling that. [11:41] Hopefully by tomorrow. [11:43] Again, the rule and the rule says and the constitution says to be so good, [11:49] but we can't be here. [11:51] The mandate is in one place as a matter of where they should be a working table also. [11:57] We will cross the bridge when we get there. [12:02] We'll see. [12:02] At nililing po namin sa mga kasama namin na nagmamahal pa po sa Senado at nais magtrabaho para sa taong bayan. [12:10] Pumasok po bukas. [12:12] Makita-kita tayo dito. [12:13] Pwedeng pagdibatihan. [12:15] Kahit anong bagay. [12:16] Pwede pong pag-usapan. [12:18] Kahit anong bagay. [12:19] Dito po kami magdiskusunan. [12:21] Dahil nandito po tayo para magtrabaho. [12:23] Hiniikayan po namin lahat ng kasama namin na nagmamahal pa. [12:27] Dito po sa Senado. [12:28] Pumasok tayo bukas. [12:29] Magtrabaho tayo para sa taong bayan. [12:31] Sir, kung hindi sila pupunta, sir. [12:32] Pinahamol ko si Alan Peter Daitano. [12:36] Kung matapang, ulo't na pali yung pag-i-trust. [12:38] Otherwise, it won't pass. [12:40] Sir, if they will still not show up tomorrow, mag-a-ajorn without settling anything? [12:45] Tingnan natin. [12:46] Tingnan natin. [12:47] That's why we're appealing to our colleagues. [12:49] Magkasama natin. [12:50] Nag-agam pa na natin yung ating trabaho. [12:52] Kasi pinakayaran tayo ng taong bayan. [12:55] At bawat araw na hindi natutuloy yung sesyo, [13:00] hindi na pang matapat yung batas, [13:02] hindi na implement yung mga dapat namin yung katapat. [13:05] Yung, gaya kanina, [13:07] may mga tao pumunta dito para i-confirm, [13:11] hindi naku-confirm. [13:12] Saan yan ang panahon? [13:14] Sir, sa Thursday, paano po yung blue ribbon? [13:18] Sa Thursday. [13:19] Wala naman tayo pinipigil na hindi. [13:20] Hindi ko namin inahadlagan yung blue ribbon. [13:22] Tuloy po nila yung blue ribbon. [13:23] Figment of their imagination lang ang ginagawa nila. [13:26] Wala naman kaming ginagawa ng atlang sa mga proseso ng Senato. [13:31] At mga agenda ng Senato, wala. [13:33] Yung sinasabing Senate independence, [13:36] ako'y naniniwala. [13:38] This is actually, [13:40] madami na nilalabag rules ng Senato. [13:43] It's actually impunity masquerading as assertion of the Senato as an independent institution. [13:52] Impunity ito. [13:53] Sunod-sunod ang paglabag. [13:55] Mula nung May 11, [13:57] mula nung pagbubuo ng mga umite, [13:59] mula nung kami nag-walk out dahil na hindi inikilala or dinidisregard. [14:06] At binabaliwala ang ating rules. [14:08] At hanggang ngayon, [14:09] hanggang kanina, [14:10] hanggang kahapon, [14:12] binabaliwala ang ating rules. [14:13] Hindi ito tama. [14:14] Kaya kami sa SB 11 ay total dito. [14:18] Dahil impunity ito, [14:20] hindi ito Senato independence. [14:21] Sir, sabi po ni S.P. [14:24] Sir, sabi po ni S.P. [14:24] Sir, what are the measures we will do in account? [14:28] Okay, ganito na lang, no? [14:29] We appeal to the rest of the members of the Majority Plac. [14:32] Pag ni si Sen.P. [14:33] Kasi we appeal to their sense of duty, [14:36] of their responsibility. [14:38] Kasi mukhang attend na po na si SB. [14:40] Kasi siya yung nagsasabi sa mga pasama namin [14:42] na huwag mag-attend ng seksyon. [14:45] So we now appeal to the rest of the members of the Majority Plac. [14:48] We appeal to their sense of duty na sana [14:50] mag-attend sila ng seksyon o pas. [14:54] So, sir, mo pwede po mag-sesyon ko yung open na seksyon? [14:58] Well, under the rules, [15:00] pagwala yung S.P. pwede mag-preside ang pro-tem. [15:03] Pagwala yung S.P. and pro-tem, [15:05] pwede mag-preside ang majority leader. [15:07] Pagwala yung tatlo, pwede mag-preside. [15:09] Any of the two deputy majority leaders. [15:11] So, or any other member designated by the Senate President? [15:16] Sir, you have information na talagang utos ko ni S.P. [15:19] Yun ang gulilay sa amin, yun ang sekretaryat. [15:23] So, nag-live na naman siya sa Facebook kanina para sabihin, [15:26] in effect, yun. [15:28] At maling-mali pa, yung sinabi na kahapon na, [15:30] let the Senate go quiet, [15:33] ang Senado ay dapat boses ng mamamayan. [15:37] Bakit niya bubusalan? [15:38] Kung bubusalan niya at hindi niya bibigyang daan [15:41] yung boses ng Senado, [15:43] alang-alang sa mamamayan, [15:44] talagang hindi na siya karapat dapat mamunod. [15:47] At parang nag-itero yung kayo pinto, [15:49] at what price? [15:51] Ang pinoprotektahan lang yung Senate Presidency, [15:53] power, position. [15:55] Kaya nag-appell kami sa isang pang samahan namin, [15:57] sa majority block. [15:59] Ano bang price para sa inyo? [16:02] Sa tingin namin, wala eh. [16:04] Tingin namin, nakikisama lang sila [16:06] kay Senado President Kaytano. [16:08] Sir, may pag-alok po ba kay Senjingo Estrada [16:22] na umani kapalit pagbasura na po nung kaso sa kanya? [16:26] Hindi, doon. Alang ganyan. [16:29] Yung pag-ikipag-usap sa isang kasama namin, [16:32] the segment of the majority, [16:33] pinato-alok ng minority, [16:35] o ni minority, [16:36] kailangan ko sa minority. [16:37] Normal yun. [16:38] In any parliament, normal yun. [16:41] Pero yung para sabihin na mayroon dati. [16:43] Walang pananakot. [16:45] Hindi ka namin. [16:47] Ako, kulong. [16:48] We don't have that power. [16:49] We have no power over the Ombudsman. [16:52] What happened is the rule of law. [16:54] What can we do? [16:55] Sir, are you also appealing to the majority [16:57] na lumipat sa inyo? [16:58] Yes. [16:59] Sa minority? [16:59] Why not? [17:00] Sino-sino po kaya? [17:01] That's it. [17:02] Mayroon na po ba sa kanala? [17:03] Mayroon na po sa kanala. [17:03] Mayroon na po sa kanala. [17:05] Mayroon na po sa kanala. [17:06] Mayroon na po ba sa majority [17:15] yung nagsabi, [17:16] hindi nila gusto kong inanggawa [17:17] ng pag-boycott sa families? [17:20] Mayroon, marami. [17:21] Marami. [17:21] Marami. [17:22] Marami. [17:22] Marami nag-text sa akin na gusto talaga nilang magtrabaho, [17:25] hindi nilang maintindihan ba na nagkaganito. [17:27] For the first time in my 14 years, [17:29] in this institution nangyari ito, [17:32] na hindi po tinawag ang session [17:33] dahil ayaw ng presiding officer. [17:36] Never has it happened in my time here. [17:38] I am in the Senate, [17:39] and I'm sure the longest serving [17:41] is in the Picos, [17:42] in the Senate, [17:43] and I think po nangyari pa yan, [17:45] pag-tinyari dito sa akin. [17:47] So talagang, [17:48] this is unprecedented, [17:50] and I think it is really [17:51] an irrelectional duty [17:52] and an abandonment [17:54] is opposed [17:56] as the leader of this institution. [18:00] Kaming nangyari, [18:00] sila pa nangyari, [18:01] hindi pa nangyari [18:02] nangyari pa nangyari [18:02] ng paumanhin, [18:04] dahil kanina, [18:05] yung dalawang mag-seg third reading sana [18:07] nandyan ulit. [18:09] And I told them, [18:10] I apologize to them, [18:12] I apologize to the Filipino people [18:14] on behalf of the Senate [18:15] that this is going [18:16] the way it is. [18:18] Kapat, [18:19] dun sa walong agenda today, [18:21] dapat dalawang [18:23] agri bills [18:24] na makikinabang sana [18:26] ang ating mga magsasaka [18:27] at mga mga mga mga [18:28] at yung citizenship bills. [18:30] Lahat, [18:30] hindi na-actional [18:31] dahil dito sa [18:32] abandonment of responsibility. [18:34] Pati yung bill [18:36] help nisa to nisa. [18:37] Mas na-parta [18:38] of Barangay Health Workers [18:39] at saka [18:39] anti-hospital detention bill [18:41] nasa amendments na [18:43] eh hindi nila [18:44] bigyang daan [18:45] ang seson [18:46] para makumpleto yan [18:47] para sa atin. [18:48] Sa lahat, [18:48] sa sabihin nalang natin [18:50] tulong [18:50] mag-misa. [18:51] Sa lahat [18:52] ng hospital na yun [18:53] na mga mahirap [18:54] natin makumayan [18:55] na hinohostage [18:57] ng hospital [18:58] dahil hindi makabayan. [18:59] Asalanan ni Alan [19:00] kaya namin yan [19:01] dahil ipapasan na [19:02] sana namin [19:02] ang batas na yan [19:03] na ipapabawal [19:06] yung paggagawa [19:06] ng ganyan. [19:07] Nag-ihostage [19:08] yung pasirin. [19:09] Thank you. [19:09] Hindi natin na ipasal. [19:10] Sir, [19:10] kaya daw sila [19:11] hindi pa mapasal. [19:12] Thumbs down! [19:13] Thumbs down! [19:14] Thumbs down! [19:14] Thumbs down! [19:14] Thumbs down! [19:15] Ganyan natin! [19:16] Reside! [19:16] Tapos, [19:17] ganyan natin! [19:18] Sir! [19:23] Sir! [19:28] Sir! [19:29] Sir JV. [19:30] Sir! [19:30] Sir sino pwede mag-preside? [19:31] Sir! [19:33] Sino yung pwede mag-preside? [19:34] Let me address that. [19:53] At sabi ni Sen. Tulfo, pag hindi ako nagpakita sa session hall ay ako yung duwag, ang katuwagan ko ay naguugat yan sa ano ba ang purpose at trabaho mo. [20:04] So, for example, kung ang trabaho mo ay magtanim pero bumabag yun, grabe po yung kidla, e hintayin mo kung mawala kidla kasi it's not a matter of tapang magkatanin ka nga, tamaan ka naman ng kidla. [20:23] So, ganun din sa sundalo, hindi natin isusubo ang sundalo natin sa mga bagay na suicide ambition. [20:31] Pero ipagtanggol ang bansa at mamatay para sa bansa. Hindi lang sundalo, dapat pakita yung mga senador. [20:38] So, yung hamon mo, magpakita ako kung hindi, i-duwag. E para po rin sinabihan ang bawa, senador, ikaw, maging independent ka. [20:48] Maging independent ka. Kung hindi, i-duwag ka. You know, this is not a radio or TV program. This is not entertainment. This is the Senate of the Philippines. [20:58] So, we have to be more professional. E kung hindi ka lang tulfo, kung hindi lang tulfo si kapatid mong si Erwin, sinumbong ko na kayo may tulfo eh. Diba? [21:06] Pero ang reality is, because nandiyan kayo, because you have a strong voice, use it for the good of the country. [21:14] There are also issues facing you. So, you asked Joel Villanueva. You asked Jingo Estrada. You asked Cheese Escudero to face it squarely. [21:25] So, face the issues also squarely. Huwag yung hitigilan natin yung Blue Ribbon na committee. And then, gagawin natin personal yung lahat ng issues. [21:34] There are issues facing all of us. Pati ba naman, ano, Senator Tulpo, lahat ng pinapay, binintan nyo sa amin. [21:42] Nung panahon ni President Duterte, kamping-kampi kayo sa drug war. Ngayon naman, eh, balita. Tapos lahat ng pinapay, sinisig nyo. [21:51] So, pati ba naman internet at saka aircon, sa akin nyo pa rin sinisig? O baka murder pa yung kaso na yan, ha? Murder kasi pinapay ang wifi at yung oriente. [22:02] Nakita ko na po ang report, yung po palang master, yung po nga centralized aircon, yung master switch or yung sa kuryente, [22:13] nasa GSIS yun at may nag-trip ng wire. Kaya around 6 o'clock, nagkaroon talaga ng problema sa aircon. [22:20] So, hindi po namin gagawin sa inyo yun. I've always treated you well, whether I'm close to you or not, whether you're in the minority, majority, and I will continue to treat all of you well. [22:31] But, kayo ang namemersonal because kami, it was been one issue after the other, di ba? Hindi kami ang nagpapasok sa MBI sa Senado yung May 11. [22:43] Hindi rin kami ang nagpumuhan ng MBI na fully armado na pinaikutan ang Senado tapos pumasok pa sa Senado noong May 13. [22:52] Hindi rin kami ang nagwalk out. So, you keep saying fresh start, every Senate President that I've served under, whether I was their majority leader or majority leader, [23:02] whether I was in the leadership or I was just a simple follower, I gave them a chance. [23:09] So, let me ask the 11 minority who's asking me to resign now. [23:13] Well, kahit na isang oras, binigyan nyo ba ako ng chance? [23:16] So, let me go to the bigger issue ngayon. [23:20] Yung pong dignidad, yung pong karangalan, yung pong honor ng Senado. [23:25] Simple matters. Nabanggit ko na po ito before. [23:28] Why do we get angry pag binastos ang ating flag? [23:31] Bakit pagka hindi tumayo? [23:33] Pagka kumanta tayo ng lupang hinirang, ba't natin sinasabihan ang Tato? [23:37] Bakit po ang Kristiyano man o Muslim pag hawak yung Biblia o hawak po ang Koran? [23:45] Ayaw natin po na pwede mo sabihin papel yun. [23:48] Mga pahina lang yun. No. [23:50] But to us, those are holy books, di ba? [23:53] To the Muslim, the holy book is the Koran. [23:55] To the Christian, the holy book is the Bible. [23:58] So, it's more than just a piece of paper, [24:01] whether softbound or hardbound yun. [24:03] There's a symbolism that matters. [24:06] So, nashock ako sa sinabi ni Sen. Luxon. [24:12] Nashock ako dahil yung labing isa walang comment [24:15] sa statement ni Sen. Remulia. [24:18] Because napakaganda na nang usapan namin [24:20] first with the CIDG through informal and formal channels [24:23] that susuko naman si Sen. Jindoy, dadaling namin doon. [24:27] And then afterwards, sa labas, [24:29] nung dumating si Sen. Remulia, [24:31] ang insabi niya, [24:32] sige, kasi nga yung pamilya medyo dating to a huddle [24:36] kasi nga medyo emotional na. [24:38] Pero pagdating sa hallway, nagbago. [24:41] At sinabi ko nga, [24:43] dun sa hindi nakakalam dahil dun sa mga bata pa. [24:46] Masarimuot pero malalim ang history ng Sen. ng Philippines. [24:54] All parliaments, for that matter, [24:56] parliaments in the past, [24:58] have been attacked by kings and queens, [25:00] by president, prime ministers, [25:02] by dictator, by tyrants, [25:04] but even by the most democratic leaders. [25:07] That's why may mga privileges. [25:09] So, in the case of former Sen. President Juan Ponsenrile, [25:14] dalawa lang ang posisyon noon, [25:16] panahon ni President Corrie. [25:17] And everyone knows, [25:18] at pasensya na po sa pamilya ni Sen. President Salonga [25:21] at President Corrie, [25:23] in our conversation, [25:24] minsan nasabi ko, [25:25] panahon ni Corrie, panahon ni Salonga, [25:27] I meant to say yung buong pangalan, [25:29] but it was, you know, [25:30] a fast and a big long turn eh. [25:32] Kasi ibang-ibay yung pag-usapan namin [25:34] ng Secretary Romulia, [25:35] who's the friend? [25:36] That's why they try to keep it civil. [25:38] But nung sinabi niyang, [25:39] doon mismo sa hallway, [25:41] i-arresto. [25:42] You know, [25:44] it's not about Alan. [25:45] It's not about Jingoy. [25:46] It's not about what they can do. [25:48] Na-shocked din ako nung sinabi niyang, [25:50] you lost that right [25:51] when may nag-escape. [25:53] First of all, [25:54] it's not Alan's right [25:55] or the Senate President's right. [25:57] It is the right [25:58] of the Senate of the Philippines. [26:00] The Senate of the Philippines [26:01] is different from the 24 Senators [26:03] and the SP. [26:04] I never claimed to be the Senate. [26:06] Diba? [26:07] The Senate is the Senate. [26:08] And it's a co-equal branch. [26:10] So, [26:11] ang inihingi ko naman lang [26:12] sa lahat ng law enforcers, [26:14] huwag niyong bastusin ang Senate. [26:16] Bastusin niya si Alan Kain Tanong, [26:17] okay lang, [26:18] tao lang naman ako eh. [26:19] Diba? [26:20] Ganun din. [26:21] Diba? [26:22] When we criticize the President, [26:23] huwag naman yung office of the President [26:24] ang babuhin natin. [26:26] May free speech tayo, [26:27] but let's hold certain things sacred. [26:30] Yung ang religion eh, [26:31] na hindi tayo pare-parew ng paniniwala, [26:34] nagbabatian tayo. [26:35] Diba? [26:36] Pag nakita ko si Brother Robin, [26:39] sinasabi ko sa iyo kanya, [26:40] Assalamualaikum, [26:41] which is a greeting [26:42] sa ating mga kapatid na Muslim. [26:45] Pagka may mga special occasion [26:47] like Sa'id, [26:48] babatiin mo ng Ibu baat? [26:49] At minsan, [26:50] this last time, [26:51] siya pa bumati [26:52] kasi niya kung ano ng issues [26:53] na naiyari that day, [26:54] nakalimutan ko. [26:55] So, [26:56] we honor each other [26:57] and symbols matter to us. [26:58] That's why nga, [26:59] I was insisting, [27:01] Sir, [27:02] labas lang tayo ng pinto ng Senado. [27:04] At siya naman po ay susurrender. [27:08] Just to skip back and forth. [27:10] Remember, [27:11] Senator Baton did not escape. [27:13] Mismong si Secretary Romulia said that day, [27:17] wala naman silang haurap na warang [27:19] at hindi naman sila nandun para rescuing siya. [27:21] So, he's free to do. [27:22] But, [27:23] you know, [27:24] I didn't feel like arguing at that time [27:25] because that wasn't my point. [27:27] Senator Jim Doyle was not asking for [27:29] protective custody or sanctuary. [27:31] So, [27:32] baka nandun nangyari yung miscommunication. [27:34] But, [27:35] pagdating sa elevator, [27:36] nakapag-usap kami ng Secretary John Dick, [27:37] so, [27:38] more or less lang, [27:39] nagkaroon ng paglilinaw. [27:40] Sa kanyang question, [27:41] sinabi niya yung mga opinion niya. [27:43] But, [27:44] I disagree with that. [27:45] But, [27:46] I won't disagree with it. [27:47] I mean, [27:48] I disagree with it, [27:49] but I won't argue. [27:50] Ito lang ako nagtaal. [27:51] Sen. [27:52] Laxon, [27:53] may sinabi pang mabiga. [27:54] Yung iba, [27:55] wala ka lang magsalita. [27:56] Si Sen. [27:57] Win, [27:58] gusto maging Sen. [27:59] President, [28:00] tatudod din his chance. [28:01] Umakyat, [28:02] minority-majority. [28:03] At sabihin, [28:04] Sen, [28:05] hindi isyo si Jingoy. [28:06] How you respect the Sen. [28:07] premises and how you will process his arrest [28:10] is more important to all of us. [28:12] That's why I was emphasizing, [28:13] marami akong pwedeng nalitin na example. [28:15] Bakit kung ginamit yung [28:17] sa the great statesman and the great Sen. [28:19] President Salonga [28:20] because, [28:21] Sen. [28:22] President Salonga [28:23] was put in jail. [28:25] He was injured in Plaza Liranga. [28:27] Sen. [28:28] President, [28:29] former Sen. [28:30] President Enrique, [28:31] he wasn't Sen. [28:32] President yet then, [28:33] was Minister of National Defense. [28:36] He issued some of the arrest orders. [28:39] And despite, [28:40] despite, [28:41] na halos [28:42] kahit anong gawin ni President Corilon [28:44] at kahit anong sabihin [28:45] kasi talagang [28:46] sa tao [28:47] sobra yung pagmamahal. [28:48] Anong sinabi ni Sen. [28:49] President Salonga? [28:50] Not here. [28:51] Tapusin niyo yung session. [28:52] Pasalitain niyo muna. [28:53] Sabi nila, [28:54] hindi, [28:55] kasi pagka below 6 years [28:56] pwedeng nulun. [28:57] Yung pong kinasa kay Sen. [28:59] Ilila na rebellion complex [29:01] with murder [29:02] was non-vailable. [29:03] Diba? [29:04] So, yun pong pakiusap ko. [29:06] Huwag natin idamay [29:07] yung mga institutions. [29:08] Diba? [29:09] VOJ o goods man. [29:10] We'll have issues [29:11] with who holds the office. [29:12] But we have to be mature enough, [29:15] rational enough, [29:16] professional enough [29:17] to protect the image, [29:19] to protect the dignity [29:20] of these institutions. [29:22] Alright, joining us this morning [29:23] is Sen. Erwin Tulfo. [29:25] Senator Tulfo, [29:26] good morning to you. [29:27] Ms. Karen, [29:29] good morning. [29:30] First of all, [29:31] I'd like to apologize. [29:32] I don't have a very good [29:33] internet connection [29:34] at this point. [29:35] So, we can just do this [29:36] through a phone patch. [29:38] Alright. [29:40] Well, I hope your internet [29:41] gets better [29:42] within the hour. [29:43] Alright. [29:44] Senator Tulfo, [29:45] mahalaga pong ikwento niyo muna. [29:48] Take us behind the scenes. [29:50] Right? [29:51] Kasi marami po sa mga Pilipino, [29:53] hindi nila alam [29:54] kung ano exactly [29:56] ang nangyayari [29:57] before the press conference, [29:59] before the majority decided [30:01] not to show up. [30:03] Take us through the timeline then. [30:05] Did the minority know? [30:07] Did they give word? [30:09] Did Senate President Alan Peter Cayetano [30:12] give word at any point [30:14] that there will be no session that day? [30:17] No, Ms. Karen, [30:20] let's not just talk about [30:22] yung walkout. [30:23] Let's rewind some more [30:26] like all the way back to [30:28] the time the [30:30] coup d'etat happened. [30:32] Umpisahan po natin doon. [30:34] Bakit may coup d'etat? [30:35] The question was, [30:36] bakit may coup d'etat, Ms. Karen? [30:38] That is the right question. [30:39] Not that may nag boycott, [30:41] may nag walkout. [30:42] Backtrack po tayo hanggang doon sa coup d'etat. [30:45] Why was there coup d'etat? [30:47] Ito po ang totoo. [30:48] Real talk lang naman po eh. [30:50] Gusto talaga malaman ng tao. [30:52] Ang problema po kasi, [30:54] yung Blue Ribbon Committee Report [30:59] ni Sen. Ping Lakson. [31:01] May mga pangalan po doon [31:03] ng mga senador. [31:05] Nandoon po silang Sen. Jingoy. [31:07] Nandoon po silang Sen. Joel Villanueva. [31:10] Nandoon po yung magka si Sen. Villar. [31:13] Nandoon po yung mga pangalan po nila [31:16] na ika nga involved po [31:18] sa flood control dahil nabanggit po [31:20] yung mga pangalan. [31:21] Ito po yung naging problem. [31:24] Eh, pakiramdam na po nila [31:26] dahil hindi po makontrol, [31:27] hindi po mapakiusapan [31:29] yung chairman po ng Blue Ribbon. [31:31] Eh, nagkaroon po ng kundita. [31:34] Okay. [31:35] Ayaw po nilang pumirma ngayon doon [31:36] sa committee report ng Blue Ribbon [31:38] ni Sen. Ping Lakson [31:39] dahil tatamaan ang mga kasama. [31:41] Tapos, nagre-reklamo sila [31:43] bakit yung iba daw, [31:45] yung sila Speaker Romualdez, [31:46] yung Tiga Congress, [31:47] yung Tinamaan, [31:48] yung Executive Department. [31:49] Bakit ganon? [31:50] Eh, ang sabi naman po niya, [31:51] eh, ang sabi naman po ni Sen. Lakson, [31:53] pumirma kayo dyan lahat, [31:54] lahat kayo member, [31:55] kasama po Sen. Marcoleta, [31:57] para mapag-usapan natin sa floor, [31:59] then you can open up all these questions, [32:01] you can bring all these questions. [32:03] Kaya yan naman pong pumirma. [32:05] So, na-install po itong report na ito. [32:07] While install, na-install po, [32:09] ibig sabihin, [32:11] eh, kinakabahan po siya, [32:13] baka ituloy po yung pagsasampa ng kaso. [32:16] Kung mapansin mo, Miss Karen, [32:18] na bago nga po yung wording eh, [32:20] from recommend filing of charges, [32:22] ginawa na na to soften, [32:24] to further investigate yung flood control na ito, [32:28] to soften, [32:29] na bahala na ang ombudsman. [32:31] Ito po nagka-problema, [32:32] warami po hindi gustong pumirma. [32:35] So, ang ginawa po, [32:36] take-over nalang, [32:37] tapos pakiramdam po nila, [32:38] pinipresecute po sila, [32:40] lahat po na may mga kaso, [32:42] nakakasuhan po ng administration, [32:44] eh, yun ho, anang yan. [32:46] Kaya nagkaroon ho na ng take-over. [32:48] Now... [32:49] Okay, but then, [32:50] the leadership change, [32:52] a Senate coup, [32:53] is typical in the Senate naman eh, [32:56] Senator Tulfo. [32:57] Diba? [32:58] Kahit ano pa ang dailan, [33:00] it's happened many, many times before. [33:02] So, they have the numbers, [33:04] they had 13, [33:06] they had 13, [33:07] so there's a new leadership. [33:09] Ang tanong is, [33:10] bakit nangyayari ito ngayon? [33:15] Because, because nga miscarried, [33:17] may mga issues sila, [33:18] na eh, [33:20] saliwa naman yung issues nila. [33:22] Number one, [33:23] they're trying to protect, [33:24] uh, pa, [33:25] yung grupo na, [33:26] ilan sa grupo nila, okay? [33:28] Unfortunately, [33:29] naisyuhan po ng warant yung isa, [33:31] si Senator Jinggoy. [33:33] Meron pa pong susunod, [33:34] susunod dahil sabi nga po, [33:35] di po ba, [33:36] ni, uh, [33:37] Ombudsman Boyerimulya, [33:38] binanggit niya po, [33:39] kung sino-sino yung mga yan. [33:41] May sinabi nga po siya, [33:42] at least 10 na mga senador po, [33:44] na, uh, [33:45] pwedeng makasuhan. [33:46] So, [33:47] yun po yung issue na yan. [33:49] Pangalawa, [33:50] Oo. [33:51] But why would they refuse to work? [33:53] Yan ang tanong. [33:54] Why would they refuse to work? [33:56] Because not having sessions for two days [33:59] is already at the expense of the Filipino people. [34:03] What are they fearing, [34:05] Senator Tulfo, [34:06] pag nagka-corum? [34:07] Bakit maayaw mag-session? [34:11] Because nagpo-protesta po sila, [34:13] Ms. Karen, [34:14] doon po sa pagka-aresto kay Senator Jinggoy. [34:17] Okay? [34:18] Isa yun. [34:19] So, [34:20] yung first day po, [34:21] ah, [34:22] nag-walk out, [34:23] talagang, [34:24] binoycot po nila, [34:25] hindi po sila pumasok, [34:26] na wala naman pong paalam. [34:28] It's already a violation. [34:29] Dalawang, [34:30] dalawang, ah, [34:31] rules po, [34:32] ng, ah, [34:33] Senate, [34:34] ang binayolate po, [34:35] ni Senate President Cayetano. [34:37] Ah, [34:38] una po, [34:39] yung, ah, [34:40] Section 3, [34:41] Rule 3, [34:42] Section 3, [34:43] that stating na, [34:44] doon po sa panunumpa niya bilang Senate President, [34:46] that I will faithfully discharge my duty. [34:48] Eh, [34:49] duty niya po, [34:50] Senate President, [34:51] magkaroon po ng session every day, [34:53] every Monday, [34:54] Tuesday, [34:55] and Wednesday, [34:56] exactly 3 o'clock. [34:57] Pangalawa pong rule na binayolate niya, [34:59] na before na magkaroon ng, ah, [35:02] ikaw nga, [35:03] no session, [35:04] na walang session, [35:05] walang pasok, [35:06] he will have to consult the majority leader [35:09] and the minority. [35:11] Ibig sabihin, [35:12] dapat sinabihan niya rin po si Senator Soto na, [35:14] hindi kami papasok ngayong araw na ito, [35:17] kasama namin si Jingoy. [35:19] Kahapon po, [35:20] hindi kami papasok dahil nagpo protesta kami. [35:22] Hindi niya rin po, [35:23] in-advise sa minority, [35:24] in-advise niya naman po, [35:26] late na, [35:27] pinadaan niya po sa Facebook. [35:29] Ang totoong rule po noon, [35:30] dapat kausapin niya po, [35:32] kung hindi man sa text, [35:33] or what letter, [35:34] communication, [35:35] et cetera, [35:36] ipadaan niya, [35:37] sasabihin niya po sa minority leader. [35:40] Hindi po eh, [35:41] pinapadaan niya lahat sa Facebook niya, [35:43] sa kanyang live. [35:44] Okay. [35:45] Second, [35:46] sinasabi na po, [35:47] mapasok may committee hearing. [35:48] Anong, [35:49] ano pong saisay ng committee hearing? [35:51] Mag-hearing po tayo na mag-hearing. [35:53] Ang problema, [35:54] at the end of the day, [35:55] kailangan po, [35:56] yung mga ika nga, [35:57] panukalang batas, [35:59] yung mga proposed bills na yan, [36:02] Senate bills na yan, [36:03] kailangan dalhin sa floor, [36:05] para pagdibatihan, [36:06] para makapagtanong yung mga kasamahanan namin. [36:09] Ano po ang purpose noon? [36:11] Di po ba? [36:12] Para ikaw, [36:13] may mga input din po kami, [36:15] na mga nasa minority, [36:16] dyan sa bills na yan, [36:19] na magiging batas one day. [36:21] Eh, wala po. [36:22] If you're not calling a session, [36:24] wala pong quorum, [36:26] paano natin pag-uusapan yung mga [36:28] hini-hearing-hearing daw nila ngayon? [36:30] Even that blue ribbon hearing [36:33] na they're planning on Thursday, [36:35] mag-hearing sila na mag-hearing. [36:36] Eh, kung wala naman pong session, [36:38] where will it lead us? [36:40] Di po ba? [36:41] I mean, [36:42] wala rin magiging committee report yun, [36:43] dahil wala kami mga input. [36:45] So, ano pa ang say-say? [36:47] So, lumalawas. [36:48] Pakitampao lang po yung mga hearing na yan. [36:50] Kung hindi ka naman magkakaroon ng session, [36:52] there must be a session kasama po sa duty namin yan. [36:57] So, there must be a session. [37:01] And I think it's important for the public [37:04] to understand the process. [37:06] Because all over social media, [37:08] the minority is hit na, [37:10] eh, kayo naman ang unang nag-walk out. [37:12] Pero nung nag-walk out ang minority, [37:14] may session na kayo doon. [37:16] Do you need, [37:17] what do you need for there to be a session? [37:21] Right? [37:22] So, you need, of course, the presiding officer. [37:24] What if the Senate President is not available? [37:27] Then, we call on the Senate pro tempore, [37:35] Senator Loren Legarda. [37:37] We are calling also for Joel Villanueva [37:43] to report work so that we will have a forum. [37:46] Kailangan po silang dalawa mag-attend. [37:50] Kung ayaw ni Sen. Cayetano, [37:52] at least silang dalawa. [37:53] Kung meron pa po silang sense of responsibility to this country, [37:58] sense of duty, [38:00] dahil binoto po sila ng mga kababayan nila, [38:03] ng mga Pilipino. [38:05] I am sure hindi lang sila binoto ng mga tega Mindanao. [38:09] Sila po ay nakakuha din ang boto sa Bulacan. [38:12] Sila po ay nakakuha din ang boto sa Iloilo, [38:16] sa Antique, [38:17] because that's where Sen. Loren Legarda came. [38:20] Paano naman po ito, Sen. Legarda, [38:23] yung mga constituents mo sa Iloilo? [38:25] Hindi lang po sa Mindanao ang constituents mo. [38:27] Meron ka sa Iloilo, [38:29] meron ka sa Luzon. [38:31] Ganon ka rin, Sen. Villanueva. [38:35] Meron ka mga constituents mo sa Bulacan. [38:38] Bakit hindi po kayo magsipasok? [38:40] Pumasok po kayo para may quorum tayo [38:43] dahil kailangan po kayo ng taong bayan. [38:46] Binabayaran po tayo araw-araw. [38:48] Ang sweldo po namin, Miss Karen, [38:50] believe it or not, [38:51] we're making like around 10,000 pesos everyday. [38:54] Victoria, ano ang nagtulak sa minority [38:57] para manawagan na magbitiw si Cayetano? [39:01] Karen, nanawagan nga ang minority block [39:06] na magbitiw na sa pagiging Senate President [39:08] si Sen. Alan Peter Cayetano [39:10] matapos hindi muli dumalo sa sesyon [39:13] ang mayorya ngayong Martes. [39:15] Pasado alas 3 ng hapon [39:18] nang sabihin ni Sen. Juan Miguel Zubiri [39:20] at Francis Pangilinan [39:22] na hindi na dadalo sa sesyon [39:24] ang majority block. [39:25] Matapos makatanggap ng mensahe [39:27] si Sen. Sekretary Jose Luis Montales. [39:30] Ayon kay Montales, [39:31] nakatanggap siya ng mensahe [39:32] mula kay Sen. Alan Peter Cayetano [39:34] na nagsabing no-show ang mayorya. [39:40] Hindi nagpag-iwagin ko sa vital therapy. [39:42] Agad nagbunta ang minority Senators [39:47] sa Senate Lounge para magpulong. [39:49] Matapos ang ilang minuto, [39:51] humarap sila sa media [39:52] at kinonda na ang diumanoy [39:54] paulit-ulit na paglabag [39:55] sa Senate rules ng mayorya. [39:57] What happened today was a clear [40:01] abandonment of responsibility, [40:03] a dereliction of duty, [40:05] and a blatant disregard of the rules [40:07] that govern this institution. [40:09] Because the Senate cannot be made to stop working [40:14] simply because its presiding officer refuses to leave. [40:18] Panawagan ng minorya, [40:23] magbitiw si SP Cayetano. [40:25] Sen. President Alan Peter Cayetano [40:30] should resign as he has shown [40:34] that he cannot function as the leader of the Senate. [40:37] At maling-mali pa yung sinabi niya kahapon na [40:40] let the Senate go quiet. [40:43] Ang Senado ay dapat poses ng mamamayan. [40:46] Bakit niya bubusalan? [40:48] Kung bubusalan niya at hindi niya bibigyang daan [40:51] yung poses ng Senado alang-alang sa mamamayan, [40:54] talagang hindi na siya karapat dapat mamunod. [40:57] At what price? [40:58] Ang pinoprotektahan lang yung Senate presidency, [41:00] power, position. [41:02] Nanawagan ang Solid Block 11 o Minority Block [41:08] sa mga kapwa nila Senador [41:10] na gawin ang kanilang tungkulin lalot [41:12] maraming nakabimbing trabaho. [41:15] Every day, [41:16] ang Senate gumagastos ng 25 milyon [41:20] sa kuryente, [41:22] sa utility, [41:23] sa sweldo, [41:24] pero walang sesyo nangyari. [41:26] Walang batas na na-approve, [41:28] walang resolution na-approve, [41:30] sayang ang bayad ng taong bayad. [41:33] I apologize to the Filipino people [41:35] on behalf of the Senate [41:36] that this is going the way it is. [41:39] Nanawagan din ang minority sa majority [41:44] na lumipat na sa kanila. [41:46] Ayon kay Sen. Rafi Tulfo, [42:00] may tatlo hanggang lima [42:02] na posibleng pa rin lumipat sa kanila. [42:04] Naniniwala siya na marami pa rin sa mayorya [42:06] ang may sense of responsibility. [42:08] Marami rin umano sa majority [42:10] ang nagpapadala ng mensahe kay Zubiri [42:12] para sabihin gusto nilang magtrabaho [42:14] at hindi maintindihan kung bakit umabot [42:16] sa ganito ang sitwasyon. [42:17] Puna ni Sen. Rafi Tulfo [42:19] sa plenary hall, [42:20] dapat magsalita [42:21] at makipag-debate si SP Cayetano [42:24] at hindi sa Facebook. [42:38] Itinanggi naman ng minority [42:39] na hinahadlangan nila [42:40] ang anumang committee hearing. [42:41] Partikular, [42:42] ang nakatakdang Blue Ribbon Committee [42:44] sa webes tungkol sa flood control scandal. [42:46] Pinabulaanan din ng minority [42:48] na may nanakot [42:49] kay Sen. Jingoy Estrada [42:50] para talikuran ang mayorya [42:53] para hindi ituloy ang kanyang kaso. [42:55] Pag-usapan umano ng minority [42:57] ang lahat ng legal na hakbang [42:58] na maaari nilang gawin [43:00] para tugunan ang kasalukuyang sitwasyon. [43:02] Kabilang dito, [43:03] ang posibleng ethics complaint [43:04] o kaya ay paghahain ng kaso [43:06] sa Korte Suprema. [43:08] Karen, huling session day na bukas [43:11] bago mag-sinedye adjournment [43:13] ang Kongreso. [43:15] Magbabalik ang session [43:16] sa July 27. [43:17] Samantala, [43:18] sinabi ng minority [43:19] na kung walang Senate President [43:21] ay maaaring [43:22] Senate President pro tempore [43:23] ang maging presiding officer [43:24] sa session. [43:25] Si Sen. Loren Legarda [43:27] ang may hawak ng posisyon na iyan. [43:28] Kung wala ang [43:29] Senate President pro tempore, [43:30] maaari daw ang dalawang [43:32] deputy majority leader. [43:33] Pero sa mga oras na ito [43:35] ay wala pa rin natatalaga [43:36] na deputy majority leaders. [43:38] Kaya bukas, [43:39] Karen, [43:40] hindi pa rin natin tiyak [43:41] kung magkakaroon ba ng korum, [43:42] kung dadalo ba ang mayoria [43:44] at kung sino [43:45] ang magiging presiding officer. [43:47] Karen? [43:48] Maraming salamat, [43:49] Victoria Tulad. [43:50] Sa puntong iso, [43:51] ito makakasama natin [43:52] si Sen. Erwin Tulfo. [43:54] Sen. Tulfo, [43:55] magandang gabi po sa inyo. [43:59] Yes, Karen, [44:00] magandang gabi sa inyo [44:01] at sa lahat ng mga [44:02] nakatutok [44:03] dito sa inyong programa. [44:05] Sen. [44:06] Mabilisan tayo, [44:07] no? [44:08] Ito na po ba [44:09] kung dadalo [44:10] ang mayoria [44:11] bukas [44:12] sa isa pang session [44:13] bago magsinedie? [44:15] We have no idea, [44:18] Ms. Karen, [44:19] kasi kaya nga [44:20] nanawagan na kami kanina [44:21] na kumari pumasok sila [44:23] dahil marami po kami [44:24] mga trabaho pa [44:25] na nakabinbin [44:26] with a lot of bills [44:27] on the floor [44:28] na kailangan pong aprobahan. [44:30] Ngayon, [44:31] hindi po nila pagpasok, [44:33] ibig sabihin, [44:34] itong mga panukalang batas na ito [44:36] ay hindi po gagalaw. [44:37] Wala po po papasok sila [44:38] dahil wala po kaming quorum [44:39] dahil 11 lang po kami. [44:41] Hmm. [44:42] Ipaliwanag po ninyo, [44:43] no, Sen. Tulfo, [44:44] sa social media, [44:45] sinasabi ng ilan, [44:47] e una namang [44:48] nag-walk out ang minorya. [44:50] Gumaganti lang ang mayoria [44:51] at nagboboykot. [44:53] Ano ang kaibahan [44:54] ng walk out ng minorya [44:56] at boykot ng mayoria [44:58] pagdating sa proseso? [44:59] Sa isang session [45:01] o pagbubukas ng session? [45:03] Mabuti nabanggit mo yan, [45:07] Ms. Karen, [45:08] kasi pareho naman po [45:10] defending, [45:11] ika nga. [45:12] What we did [45:13] was to defend, [45:14] ang pinakaiba naman po, [45:15] we have to defend [45:16] the institution. [45:17] We have to defend [45:18] the Senate rules. [45:20] Sa kanila naman po [45:21] pag walk out nila, [45:22] and they're defending, [45:23] ika nga, [45:24] yung pagka-aresto po [45:25] kay Sen. Jingo Estrada, [45:27] saan naman po ang hostesya doon? [45:29] They're not defending, [45:30] they're protesting [45:31] kasi hinuli po ang isa [45:33] sa kanila [45:34] at nabawasan sila. [45:35] Real talk lang tayo, [45:36] Ms. Karen. [45:37] I mean, [45:38] para maintindihan ang mga kababayan natin, [45:39] yung walk out po namin [45:41] kasi gusto nila [45:42] i-divide ang house, [45:43] magbutohan kami [45:44] para ika nga [45:45] pwedeng magbutohan [45:46] yung mga, [45:47] tulad po nyan, [45:48] mga kasamahan namin [45:49] na nakakulong, [45:50] na pwedeng bumoto. [45:51] Eh, wala po sa rules yun eh. [45:53] Eh, gusto nila [45:54] gawin pong rules. [45:55] Eh, kailangan, [45:56] bago po gawin yung aprubahan, [45:57] kailangan pagdebatihan, [45:58] kailangan diskusyon. [45:59] Hindi, [46:00] sasabihin po agad [46:01] ni Sen. Alan Peter Cayetano, [46:03] let's divide the house. [46:04] So, gusto niya pong [46:05] i-railroad, [46:06] gusto niya pong ika nga [46:07] i-quick fix [46:08] yung i-railroad po [46:09] at kaagad na magkaroon [46:10] ng butohan. [46:11] Eh, siyempre, talo ho kami. [46:12] Yung sa kanila naman po, [46:14] nag walk out sila, [46:15] eh, ika nga, [46:16] protest, [46:17] nagpo-protesta po sila [46:18] dahil kinulong po [46:19] isang kasama nila. [46:20] Eh, ba't nila ho [46:21] sisisihin sa amin [46:22] sa minority [46:23] kung may warrant of arrest po [46:24] yung kasamahan nila [46:25] sa majority? [46:26] Dapat hindi ho. [46:27] So, yung amin po, [46:29] we're defending the institution, [46:30] we're defending the rules, [46:31] Senate rules. [46:32] Sa kanila naman, [46:33] it seems like [46:34] they're defending [46:35] yung pagka-aresto [46:36] at kumukontra sila [46:37] sa pagka-aresto po [46:38] kay Sen. Jingoy. [46:39] Oo. [46:40] Pero, Sen. Linawin nyo, [46:41] yung walk out nyo kasi [46:42] sa minority, [46:43] the session already started. [46:45] Ang boycott, [46:46] isang paglilinaw, [46:47] hindi pa nagsimula [46:48] ang session. [46:49] Hindi kayo makapagsimula [46:51] ng session. [46:52] Tama po yun, [46:53] Ms. Karen. [46:54] Tama po yun, [46:55] Ms. Karen. [46:56] Kasi nga, [46:57] ang nangyari nga doon, [46:58] gusto niya po [46:59] agad i-shortcut [47:00] na ipasa po yung [47:02] through voting, [47:03] magbutuhan kami, [47:04] ipasa po yung rules na yun, [47:06] i-apply na namin [47:07] yung rules na yun, [47:08] idagdag yung rules na yun [47:09] na ika nga [47:11] pwede nga [47:12] teleconferencing lamang [47:14] ang butuhan [47:15] ng mga Senador [47:16] o pag-attend ng session. [47:17] Eh po, [47:18] malag ho kami [47:19] dahil wala pong [47:20] wala pong diskusyon, [47:21] wala man lang debate. [47:22] Ang tama po, [47:23] dapat, [47:24] dindaan po sa proseso, [47:25] pag-usapan natin sa floor [47:26] and gusto niya [47:27] magbutuhan. [47:28] Siyempre, [47:29] outnumbered ho kami. [47:30] Anong gagawin nyo namin? [47:31] So, napilitan po kami [47:32] mag-walk out. [47:33] Yung sa kanila naman po [47:34] ibang-iba eh. [47:35] Boycott po, [47:36] hindi po sila pumasok, [47:37] hindi man po sila nagpaalam. [47:39] Okay. [47:41] Senator, [47:42] nanawagan ang kapatid po ninyo [47:43] si Senator Rafi Tulfo [47:45] na mag-resign [47:46] si Senate President Alan Peter Cayetano. [47:49] Ito ba ang pananaw [47:51] ng buong minorya [47:52] o ng kapatid lang po ninyo, sir? [47:55] Tama. [47:56] Tama po yun. [47:58] Kasi sunod-sunod na po [47:59] ang paglabag niya [48:00] sa mga rules po namin [48:01] sa Senado. [48:02] Una po, [48:03] section 3 po [48:04] ng Senate rules. [48:05] Sa sinasabi po doon, [48:06] nung siya po ay manumpa, [48:08] Ms. Karen, [48:09] ang sabi niya po doon [48:10] that I will well [48:12] and faithfully discharge [48:13] to the best of my ability [48:15] the duties [48:16] of my present position. [48:18] Anong duty po yun [48:19] na maging presiding officer po siya [48:21] everyday [48:22] at pumasok po siya [48:24] at mag-preside [48:25] pwera na lamang [48:26] kung may force majeure, [48:27] may national emergency. [48:29] E wala nga ho eh, [48:30] hindi siya ayaw niyang pumasok [48:32] kahit na wala pong valid reason, [48:34] Ms. Karen. [48:35] Pangalawa, [48:36] dapat po, [48:37] according din po sa [48:38] rule 14, [48:40] section 41, [48:41] dapat sinasabihan [48:43] ang minority leader, [48:45] majority leader [48:46] na hindi siya papasok [48:48] o walang pasok [48:49] ang Senado. [48:50] Hindi rin po niya [48:51] ginawa yun. [48:52] So, dalawa na po agad [48:53] yung violations niya, [48:54] dalawang rules po [48:55] ng Senate, [48:56] ang viniolate niya, [48:57] Ms. Karen. [48:58] Okay. [48:59] Ano ang plano [49:00] ng minoria? [49:01] Makikipag-dialogo ba [49:03] ang minoria? [49:04] Yan ang sinabi po [49:05] at panawagan [49:06] ni Senate President Cayetano [49:07] sa Facebook niya kanina. [49:09] Ms. Karen, [49:13] yung problema eh, [49:14] puro siya Facebook, [49:15] puro siya live. [49:16] Eh baka gusto niya [49:17] maging vlogger na lamang. [49:18] So, [49:19] bakit ni Lila lang po? [49:21] At least ha, [49:22] pagbablog, [49:23] may kikitain pa po, [49:24] di po ba, [49:25] may monetary, [49:26] ika nga, [49:27] compensation. [49:28] Doon na lang siguro [49:29] kasi three times, [49:30] four times, [49:31] five times siya. [49:32] May oras siya sa pagbablog, [49:33] yung gawain niya rito, [49:34] yung trabaho niya [49:35] bilang Senate President, [49:36] hindi niya magampanan. [49:37] What does he tell you? [49:38] Sayang, [49:39] Ms. Karen, [49:40] yung pasweldo [49:41] sa kanya ng tao. [49:42] Sayang yung pasweldo [49:43] ng sambayanan [49:44] sa mga senador. [49:45] Tatlong daan libo [49:46] mahigit pa [49:47] ang sweldo namin. [49:48] Hindi ka papasok. [49:50] Diyos ko po, [49:51] nasasayang, [49:52] Ms. Karen, [49:53] yung 10,000 per day [49:55] na sweldo namin [49:56] dito sa Senado. [49:58] Yung po yung hindi po niya [49:59] naiisip siguro [50:00] at ng mga kasamahan po niya. [50:02] Senator, [50:03] medyo personal na no [50:05] yung mga pahayag kanina [50:06] laban sa mga tulfo [50:08] sa inyong magkapatid. [50:09] Sinabi po ni [50:10] Senate President Cayetano, [50:12] kung hindi lang kayo tulfo, [50:14] e ipapatulfo ko na kayo. [50:16] Yan yung quote. [50:21] Kailangan baka [50:22] stress out lang po [50:23] ang Senate President. [50:24] Kailangan po siguro [50:25] ikaw [50:26] magpatingin po [50:27] sa doktor, [50:28] magpakonsulta. [50:29] Paano naman [50:30] niya sasabihin [50:31] na ipapatulfo niya po kami. [50:32] Kami po si tulfo. [50:33] But I know what he means, [50:35] Ms. Karen, [50:36] na wala siya [50:37] mapagsumbungan. [50:38] E nung may susumbung mo, [50:39] ikaw nga yung may mali. [50:41] Ang gusto lang po namin, [50:42] Senator Alan Peter Cayetano, [50:44] I know you're watching, [50:45] pumasok po kayo sa trabaho, [50:47] isama nyo po [50:49] yung inyong mga miyembro [50:50] para makagawa tayo [50:52] ng mga batas, [50:53] magawa natin ang trabaho. [50:54] Kahiyahiya po, [50:55] dalawang araw na po tayong [50:57] walang pasok. [50:58] Okay, [50:59] isa pang personal, [51:00] no, [51:01] na observation [51:02] laban sa inyo, [51:03] sinabi po nung panahon daw [51:04] ni Duterte, [51:05] camping-campy po kayo [51:07] sa drug war. [51:08] So siguro, [51:09] sinasabi ngayon, [51:10] ay bumabaliktad naman [51:11] ang paninindigan nyo. [51:12] Quick reaction on that. [51:14] Dalawang bagay, [51:17] Ms. Karen. [51:18] Una, [51:19] ang issue rito [51:20] ay ang Senado, [51:21] hindi po yung drug war [51:22] ng Pangulo. [51:23] Sabi ko nga, [51:24] siguro, [51:25] kailangan magpacheck up po [51:26] si Sen. Alan Cayetano, [51:27] si Psychiatry, [51:28] Psychologist, [51:29] meron po kami dito sa Senado. [51:31] Hindi po yan ang issue [51:32] tungkol sa drug war. [51:34] Pangalawa, [51:35] tama po yun, [51:38] suportado ko po dati, [51:40] suportado namin yung drug war [51:41] ng Pangulo [51:42] ng pag-upo niya. [51:43] Pero yung sunod-sunod na [51:44] ng nanlaban, [51:45] araw-araw may nanlaban, [51:47] tricycle driver nanlaban. [51:49] Lahat ng namamatay, [51:50] biglang may mga baril [51:51] na mga paltik. [51:53] How is that, [51:54] di ba? [51:55] Okay, [51:56] palik tayo sa issue ng Senado [51:57] very quickly ito. [51:58] May plano ba ang menorya [52:00] na bawiin [52:01] ang committee chairmanships? [52:03] Kung meron, [52:04] paano po ninyo ito gagawin? [52:06] Kung hindi po sila dadalo bukas? [52:08] Paano po? [52:09] Paano po mababawi? [52:11] Kayo na rin po [52:12] nagsabi. [52:13] Wala ko kaming numero. [52:14] We don't have the numbers. [52:15] So how can we do that? [52:17] Kailangan po namin ng numbers. [52:18] Eleven lang po kami, [52:19] hindi po namin kayang bawiin. [52:21] Dagdag ko na rin po [52:22] dahil sinasabi nila [52:24] kontra po kami dun sa blue ribbon hearing. [52:27] Hinaharang po namin. [52:28] Wala pong harang. [52:29] Kanina niya pa sinasabi eh [52:31] na hinaharang namin yung blue ribbon. [52:34] Wala pong maharang. [52:35] Gusto niya pong mag-hearing. [52:37] Bukas walang problema. [52:38] Sa isang bukas, [52:39] wala pong problema. [52:40] Hindi po namin haharangin. [52:42] Siya nga pong may problema eh. [52:43] Natatakot siya. [52:45] Alam mo ba, [52:46] Ms. Karen, [52:47] dahil ex-officio siya, [52:48] dahil minority leader siya [52:49] nung binuo po yung blue ribbon [52:51] na sa pangunguna po [52:53] Senator Pink Lacson. [52:54] Hindi siya nag-attend ni Minsan. [52:56] Wala pong inatenan niya [52:58] na blue ribbon hearing. [52:59] Pangalawa, [53:00] ayaw niya pong pumirma. [53:01] Ex-officio ka? [53:02] Ayaw mo pirmahan yung chairman's report? [53:04] Eh, [53:05] kung may mga kontra ka, [53:07] hindi mo gusto, [53:08] firma ka. [53:09] Dapat nakalagay doon [53:10] with reservations, [53:11] with amendments. [53:12] Kagaya po nang ginawa ko. [53:13] Hindi po ako sang-ayon sa report. [53:15] Ms. Karen, [53:16] ako po yung vice chair. [53:17] Dahil nakukulangan ako. [53:18] Tipo, [53:19] mirma ako, [53:20] nilagay ko doon [53:21] with amendments. [53:22] Ibig sabihin, [53:23] pag-usapan natin sa floor, [53:24] at doon mo sabihin na [53:25] kulang itong report. [53:26] Eh, bakit hindi ninyo po ginawa? [53:28] Kasi Ms. Karen, [53:29] ang problema sa kanya, [53:30] may tatamaan ng mga [53:32] kamembro niya ngayon [53:34] sa majority [53:35] dyan sa flood control. [53:36] Ganun lang naman po, [53:37] kasimple yun. [53:38] Okay. [53:39] Pero, Senator, [53:40] para maintindihan ng buong [53:41] sambayanan, [53:42] ang totoo dito, [53:43] may impas, [53:44] may deadlock. [53:45] Labing isa kayo, [53:46] labing dalawa sila, [53:47] pareho kayo na walang 13. [53:50] Kung hindi pumasok ang mayoria, [53:52] wala kayong magagawa. [53:53] So, [53:54] paano po ang trabaho [53:55] sa Senado ngayon? [53:57] Paano po lahat [53:58] ng nakabimbin dyan? [54:00] Kailangang amyandahan? [54:01] Paano na po yan, sir? [54:03] Yan po ang hindi niya masagot eh. [54:08] Live po siya ng live [54:09] sa kanyang Facebook page. [54:10] Puro banat. [54:11] Mga priorities [54:12] ng... [54:13] Ano rin ba ang priorities [54:14] ng minority? [54:15] Ang priorities po [54:16] ng minority, [54:17] Ms. Karen, [54:18] may pasa. [54:19] Itong mga nakabingbing [54:20] panukalang batas, [54:21] Ms. Karen. [54:22] Eh, [54:23] hindi ho niya nababanggit yun [54:24] kung anong plano. [54:25] Kami ho, [54:26] ang ginawa namin. [54:27] What we can do is ask them [54:28] to come to work tomorrow. [54:30] Kung kailangan po namin lumuhod, [54:32] we will do that to just... 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