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NEWS: Kennedy Presses Hegseth On Xi And Mauritius Hours Before Trump's China Trip

Forbes Breaking News May 12, 2026 7m 1,072 words 1 views
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"followed by Senator Murphy, and I know that Secretary has a time departure. Thank you for your indulgence, Madam Chair. Thank you. Mr. Secretary, welcome. Can we agree that if you took President Xi Jinping and turned him upside down and shook him, that the African country of Mauritius would fall..."

[0:00] followed by Senator Murphy, and I know that Secretary has a time departure. [0:06] Thank you for your indulgence, Madam Chair. [0:08] Thank you. [0:08] Mr. Secretary, welcome. [0:13] Can we agree that if you took President Xi Jinping and turned him upside down and shook him, [0:22] that the African country of Mauritius would fall out of his pocket? [0:29] I don't know if we can, but I'd like to indulge you on that. [0:33] Well, let me try it another way. [0:35] So, Mauritius is good friends with China, is it not? [0:44] I understand there's some level of a relationship there. [0:46] Yeah, like they're BFFs or whatever the young people call. [0:53] Prime Minister Starmer wants to give Diego Garcia and the Chagos Islands to Mauritius, [1:06] which has virtually no connection with Chagos Islands, [1:10] who will promptly give a spare key to Diego Garcia to China. [1:17] Is that accurate? [1:20] What I would underscore is that Diego Garcia is a very strategic location, [1:23] and having the ability to operate there for the United States military is going to be critically important in the future. [1:28] But Starmer wants to give it away, does he not? [1:29] As President Trump has stated, there's been some pretty bad deals made by the Brits as it pertains to Diego Garcia. [1:35] Well, I'd like to hear you. [1:36] I mean, the President's been back and forth on this, and I've talked to him a lot. [1:43] He is not going to agree to that, is he? [1:48] No, as the President has stated, it was a bad deal that was cut by the UK and Prime Minister Starmer [1:54] as it pertains to Diego Garcia as evidenced by limitations that our troops could face in how we use that island. [2:00] Yes. [2:00] All right. [2:01] I appreciate that. [2:03] My understanding is that the classified information and unclassified, it's public, [2:13] showed that our intelligence discovered that not that long ago, Iran had developed a new Supreme Leader. [2:21] Now, dead is fried chicken, but they have a new Supreme Leader, [2:24] had developed a new game plan for their nuclear weapons program. [2:29] And their game plan was to jack up missile, both ballistic and cruise missile production [2:38] and drone production, and put together this huge stockpile of missiles and drones, [2:46] at which point they would turn to the United States and Israel and the rest of the world and say, [2:50] we're going to restart our nuclear weapons program. [2:53] If you bomb us again, like you did in June, we will destroy the Middle East. [3:01] And by the way, our missiles can now reach Berlin and London and Paris. [3:06] Is that my understanding of one of the reasons, the main reason we went into Iran? [3:11] I think that's pretty well articulated, Senator, that they were trying to use the umbrella of their conventional, [3:17] established conventional stockpiles to blackmail the rest of the world in pursuit of their own nuclear weapons. [3:22] Now, let's talk about Iran today. [3:24] Can we agree that Iran, both the public and the private sector, is being held together right now with spit and duct tape? [3:34] Spit and duct tape is not a doctrinal term, Senator, but I would agree with something along those lines. [3:38] It's a Louisiana term. [3:40] I mean, seven out of ten Iranians are out of work. [3:46] We bomb their infrastructure. [3:49] They've got 70 percent inflation. [3:52] Their Internet's shut off. [3:55] You know better than I do what we've done on the military side. [4:00] Their launchers, gone. [4:02] Their missiles, for the most part, gone. [4:05] Their drones, gone. [4:06] Do they have some left? [4:07] Yeah. [4:08] Their Navy, gone. [4:09] Their Air Force, gone. [4:10] You can get in an airplane, you personally, and fly anywhere you want to across Iran right now and feel safe, [4:19] because they don't have any air defenses. [4:21] It will be, in my opinion, 20 years and cost a trillion dollars before they're even back somewhat to normal. [4:31] And I don't have the slightest idea where they're going to get the money. [4:36] If they think China's going to give it to them or Russia, they've got to learn a hard lesson. [4:41] To that extent, have we achieved our objective in Iran? [4:44] Your objective, as this president has stated from the beginning, is to ensure they don't get a nuclear weapon. [4:51] And President Trump remains dedicated to ensuring that happens. [4:54] And everything you described with the military degradation of their country was in service of ensuring they never get a nuclear weapon. [4:59] This is what—I never understood the president to say, I want a regime change in Iran, and I want to obtain all of their fissile material. [5:16] I've never heard him say that. [5:19] What I heard him say was, I don't want to go back through it. [5:23] But our goal is to cripple them so they can't blackmail the rest of the world. [5:27] Now, many of my Democratic friends are now trying to say, we have lost. [5:34] Here's a footnote. [5:36] You're not going to get Democratic support. [5:39] They're not. [5:39] They're not going to support you, Mr. Secretary, because they don't support President Trump. [5:46] I know that's not a newsflash. [5:47] But they say, we've lost. [5:55] I don't get it. [5:56] I don't understand how we've lost. [5:57] Is the strait closed? [5:58] Yes. [6:00] But if we continue that blockade, where nothing's going in and nothing's going out, eventually they're going to have to shut down their oil fields. [6:07] Half of their oil fields are low pressure. [6:10] Once they put them down, they're not going to get them back up. [6:13] Am I missing something here? [6:15] No, that's why the president is right when he says, we hold all the cards. [6:18] And we do. [6:19] And we've got the best dealmaker in the world able to make the best deal for the United States of America. [6:24] And if we have to go back at it as the Department of War, we're ready to do that as well. [6:28] Well, keep two things in mind. [6:31] You're not going to win over my Democratic friends. [6:34] It's not worth getting your blood pressure up. [6:38] Focus on other things. [6:40] And number two, just keep this in mind. [6:43] America first does not have to mean America alone. [6:49] America first does not have to mean America alone. [6:57] We need all the friends we can get. [6:59] They need to carry their own weight. [7:01] They need to pay their bills. [7:03] But the more the better. [7:04] I'm sorry I went way over, but I sure do appreciate it. [7:06] Thank you, Senator Kennedy. [7:07] Senator Murphy. [7:07] Thank you, Madam Chair.

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