'Asking A Biden Official To Talk About Border Policy Is Pretty Laughable': Knott Grills Dem Witness

[0:00] Thank you, Ms. Gorman. [0:00] The gentleman's time has expired. [0:01] I yield back, Mr. Chairman. [0:02] Mr. Knott. [0:03] Sorry about that. [0:04] No, no. [0:05] Ms. Gorman, Mr. Abraham, thank you for your testimony today. [0:09] Sheriff, thank you for your service, Ms. Pierce. [0:10] Thank you for being here. [0:11] I, again, I say this often as the father of two precious girls, I can't imagine being [0:17] in your chair. [0:18] And I'm sorry, because, again, we have not only a refusal to apologize for the policies, [0:26] but we're trying to bake in the lie that these crimes were unavoidable. [0:33] I mean, that's the lie that no one will talk about. [0:35] Both of these crimes were avoidable. [0:38] They should never have happened. [0:40] And unfortunately for my colleagues on the other side, had President Trump been in office [0:45] from 2000 through 2024, both of your daughters would be alive. [0:53] That's the elephant in the room here. [0:56] That is the absolute elephant in the room. [0:58] I mean, the idea that these crimes are unavoidable is one of the biggest lies that I can't really [1:06] tolerate anymore. [1:08] I really can't. [1:09] I mean, look at Jose Medina, apprehended by the Border Patrol on May 9th, 2023. [1:16] He told immigration officials he did not have any fear of harm or death. [1:23] He was marked by Border Patrol as someone who was likely to abscond. [1:28] He asked to be deported to Colombia. [1:31] He could not provide any point of contact inside the United States. [1:38] But the Democrats behind Biden and Harris programmatically ushered him into the country, [1:47] paying, paying for his health care, his food, his clothing. [1:54] And my colleagues here today on the other side will not say it was avoidable. [2:03] He was arrested for theft. [2:04] He did not show up to court. [2:07] Two crimes. [2:08] Conviction. [2:09] Two crimes. [2:10] They say we don't deport anybody unless they have a conviction. [2:14] Well, it's very hard to convict someone when you don't prosecute them. [2:19] He then murdered a precious American child, a young lady, for doing nothing more than looking [2:25] at the Northern Lights. [2:26] Again, it's the biggest lie that's being told in Congress is that these crimes are unavoidable. [2:33] You know, the second case, Mr. Abraham's daughter, you said that Mr. Bull was deported once [2:42] before. [2:43] Do you know what he was deported for? [2:44] I don't know why. [2:46] I can't get that information from Illinois. [2:48] But he was using aliens. [2:49] You can't get it? [2:50] You can't get it from Illinois? [2:51] No. [2:51] I wonder why. [2:51] I can't get anything from Illinois. [2:54] But he was also using aliases. [2:56] He wasn't. [2:57] He was presenting himself as a Mexican national, not a Guatemalan national. [3:01] Federal agencies knew that. [3:03] State didn't bother checkings. [3:05] Yep. [3:06] Well, I can tell both of you I did work in the Department of Justice under President Obama, [3:10] under President Trump, and under President Biden. [3:14] And it was a programmatic effort to bring as many people into the country as they could [3:19] and to keep them here regardless of what they did. [3:22] And I do have to ask you, Ms. Pierce, one question. [3:25] You said that sanctuary jurisdictions do not prevent ICE or immigration enforcement. [3:32] Do you stand by that comment? [3:33] Yes, sir. [3:35] We have heard testimony in this committee of sanctuary jurisdictions that consider immigration [3:42] consequences before they finalize cases, before they charge cases, before they plead cases. [3:50] Are you aware of that? [3:53] Yes, sir. [3:53] Will you condemn that? [3:56] I think that both U.S. citizens and immigrants should be charged and treated. [4:02] I didn't ask that. [4:03] Will you condemn considering immigration policies before charging or resolving cases? [4:08] I don't think immigration should be a consideration when we're talking about criminal law. [4:14] Because when they do that, that does affect immigration enforcement, correct? [4:19] We're not talking about criminal law. [4:21] We're not talking about civil immigration enforcement. [4:23] I'm talking about criminal illegal immigrants, ma'am. [4:25] Someone sat in that very chair and said, I will release somebody if they're an illegal immigrant and they're charged with a serious felony. [4:35] I questioned them two weeks ago. [4:36] That would affect immigration enforcement, would it not? [4:42] ICE can pick them up either way, whether or not they're charged, sir. [4:45] Asking a Biden official to talk about border policy is pretty laughable, I've got to say so. [4:52] I think it's past time that we as Americans do stand up and say that American children are treasures. [4:58] They are unique. [4:59] Protecting them should be our foremost priority. [5:04] That's impossible when you embrace open borders. [5:08] That's impossible when you welcome people from all over the world, regardless of who they are here. [5:14] Thank you. [5:14] Thank you.