About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of A Text Dispute Ends in Gunfire — Dwann Ross Interrogation from The Interrogator Files, published July 5, 2026. The transcript contains 26,665 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"Basically, like I said, once I got that jammed, then that's when I wasn't shot. And then it jammed again, I heard it jammed again, and that's when I was like, oh shit. On May 28, 2024, two neighboring business owners in Inverness, Florida, were caught in a dispute that had been building through a..."
[0:00] Basically, like I said, once I got that jammed, then that's when I wasn't shot.
[0:03] And then it jammed again, I heard it jammed again, and that's when I was like, oh shit.
[0:07] On May 28, 2024, two neighboring business owners in Inverness, Florida,
[0:17] were caught in a dispute that had been building through a series of hostile text messages.
[0:23] Dwan Ross Jr. operated a barbershop at Colonial Plaza on Highway 44 West.
[0:28] Just steps away, 33-year-old Trask C. Johnson ran a technology and electronics business.
[0:34] The tension between them centered on personal allegations and relationships.
[0:40] But by late morning, the conflict was no longer contained to their phones.
[0:44] The two men came face-to-face in the shared parking lot outside their businesses.
[0:50] What began as a confrontation quickly turned physical.
[0:53] And within moments, deputies were responding to a shooting.
[0:57] When they arrived, Johnson was found badly wounded in the parking lot.
[1:01] He was rushed to a nearby hospital, but did not survive.
[1:04] Ross was detained at the scene, and the Citrus County Sheriff's Office began securing evidence,
[1:10] speaking with witnesses, and piecing together how a business neighbor dispute had ended in gunfire.
[1:15] Now, detectives are preparing to sit down with Ross and hear his account of what happened.
[1:20] This is the interrogation of Dwan Ross Jr.
[1:23] It's called travel ball.
[1:27] Everything has to be, yeah, it has to be, like, uniform, and also has to be, you know, like, not, like, the bat can't have.
[1:35] Oh, no, these were just little, like, for the end of the year, little 18-inch bats.
[1:39] Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, I didn't know nothing about that.
[1:41] Damn.
[1:42] This is Detective Slingerland.
[1:44] This is Dwan.
[1:45] Dwan, yes, sir.
[1:46] Yes, sir.
[1:46] Yes, sir.
[1:46] This is Detective Steele Fox.
[1:49] They're good people, man.
[1:50] All right.
[1:51] Good people.
[1:51] Like I said, keep your head clear.
[1:54] Yes, sir.
[1:55] Hey, man, thank you for real.
[1:57] Yeah, man.
[1:57] Yeah, man.
[1:59] Hey, I handcuffed him in the front.
[2:01] That's fine.
[2:02] That's fine.
[2:03] Let me tell you what I did.
[2:05] I'll tell you what I did, and I apologize.
[2:08] I'm a big dummy.
[2:10] I let him go to the bathroom.
[2:11] We went to the bathroom.
[2:12] Had to go potty.
[2:15] Started to wash his hands.
[2:16] Stopped him about halfway through.
[2:17] Sorry.
[2:18] Okay.
[2:19] I mean, I got a little bit right here on my fingers, you know, but not a problem.
[2:23] Not a big deal.
[2:24] All right.
[2:24] Is this my wallet?
[2:25] That's my wallet.
[2:26] That's my wallet.
[2:26] That's his wallet and his pen.
[2:28] Okay.
[2:28] So that's the only thing you have on him.
[2:31] Okay.
[2:32] All right.
[2:33] Let me sit there.
[2:35] What's your name again?
[2:36] Deputy Ruby Sam.
[2:37] Ruby Sam.
[2:38] Yeah.
[2:38] All right.
[2:38] I'll try to remember about that.
[2:39] All right, man.
[2:40] All right, man.
[2:40] I'll see you around.
[2:43] Hey, like, like.
[2:44] Sorry about that.
[2:45] I need to throw open because I told him I didn't get a chance to take a shower yet, and then,
[2:49] you know, the sweat from being out there in that heat.
[2:52] When that situation went down, they're coming over here, so it's a little sinking.
[2:55] It's hot already?
[2:57] No, it's scorched out there.
[2:58] Yeah.
[2:58] It's like 9 o'clock in the morning.
[3:00] It's a skinny spring.
[3:00] Yeah.
[3:01] We went straight to summer, didn't we?
[3:03] Yeah.
[3:04] No, it's been that way for a minute.
[3:05] I cool softball, so I know.
[3:06] So, it's, it's, everybody's been calling you Skinny?
[3:10] Yeah, that's my, I'm the barber.
[3:13] I go in that barbershop up there at Papa Jenny's Restaurant, so they know me as Skinny,
[3:17] the barber, but my name is Dewan Ross.
[3:20] D-W-A-N-N.
[3:23] Ross, R-O-S-S?
[3:25] Correct.
[3:26] So, what's your middle name?
[3:27] Demetrius.
[3:28] D-E-M-E-T-R-I-U-S.
[3:32] And I'm a junior.
[3:34] Junior.
[3:35] Yeah, at least you were putting that in.
[3:36] What's your birth name?
[3:37] 0815-1988.
[3:43] What's a good cell phone number for you?
[3:45] Hey, so, you're obviously here at the sheriff's office, you got handcuffs on, I'm going to ask
[3:57] you some questions.
[3:58] I have to raise your rights before I do that, okay?
[4:05] You have the right to remain silent.
[4:07] Anything you say can will be used against you in a court of law.
[4:11] You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him present with you while you are being
[4:15] questioned.
[4:16] You understand those so far?
[4:17] Correct.
[4:17] If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before
[4:22] any questioning, if you wish.
[4:24] You can decide at any time to exercise these rights and not answer any questions or make
[4:28] any statements.
[4:29] Do you understand these rights I just explained to you?
[4:31] Yes, sir.
[4:32] Okay.
[4:32] Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us?
[4:35] Yes, sir.
[4:35] Answer my questions.
[4:36] Okay.
[4:39] So, what can you tell me about what happened today up there?
[4:44] So, you say you run the barbershop?
[4:46] I own the barbershop.
[4:47] You own the barbershop.
[4:48] Yes, sir.
[4:48] Who else works that barbershop?
[4:50] I own, I co-own with Chris Davis and John up there as well too.
[4:56] Okay.
[4:57] And then I just got one employee.
[4:58] Okay.
[4:59] Other than that.
[4:59] And you guys do all the work cutting and obviously I don't go to the barbershop that often.
[5:04] Correct.
[5:05] But we can do the beer though.
[5:06] You know what I'm saying?
[5:06] I don't take advantage.
[5:09] I understand.
[5:09] But yes, sir.
[5:10] That's what I do for a living.
[5:12] So, were you working this morning?
[5:13] I was not working this morning.
[5:15] Okay.
[5:15] So, what brought you up there today?
[5:17] Okay.
[5:18] So, today I was coming back from Ocala, from Marion County.
[5:22] I had to drop it off my son because I had to take him to go get back to daycare.
[5:26] I have another child.
[5:27] So, I got two girls, which I had in the house.
[5:29] I'm 14 and 11 years old.
[5:31] I had to take the two-year-old to Ocala to the Kid USA.
[5:34] As I was coming back from there, I was on the phone with John explaining to him that I had got a threat.
[5:41] That's why I wish to be.
[5:42] I don't know if y'all got a cell phone or not.
[5:43] Y'all got my cell phone?
[5:44] Yeah.
[5:45] Okay.
[5:45] So, I told him or whatever that I had got a threat because, let's see here.
[5:52] Let me make sure I'm exactly right.
[5:53] At like 1-23, I forget what day exactly it was, but like I said, it's in my phone still.
[5:59] I had got a text message saying that we can go thought for thought or I can spray that bitch up.
[6:07] You're fucking with, basically, you're fucking with the wrong woman.
[6:10] You know?
[6:11] So, I get a message at 1-23.
[6:13] I check it at 3 o'clock when I go get some of the drink and take a fish or whatever.
[6:18] And then I respond back, who is this?
[6:19] And I said, it's sad that you are trying to shoot up my home knowing that my kids are in here over a female.
[6:26] Left it alone.
[6:28] So, then I was going to call it.
[6:29] I was nervous the whole weekend.
[6:31] I left it, took my kids to Orlando.
[6:34] Me, what do you call it?
[6:34] We come back.
[6:35] So, let me stop you real quick.
[6:37] When was that text?
[6:39] That, I can't confirm the whole day because today is what?
[6:42] Today is Tuesday.
[6:42] You remember what day?
[6:43] Today is Tuesday.
[6:44] Today, yeah.
[6:45] I started talking.
[6:46] I'm trying to figure out when the girl saw me because she said she had to go to work.
[6:49] I think it might have been Sunday.
[6:53] Yeah, it was Sunday because I didn't leave because I had my son, Liam.
[6:55] So, it had to have been Sunday.
[6:57] It was Monday.
[6:58] Yeah.
[6:59] So, Sunday it had to happen just to make sure because she had, like I said, I'm talking to
[7:03] her on our end.
[7:04] So, she went to night shift or whatever, you know.
[7:06] Because you said you went to Orlando.
[7:08] Yeah, but that was before.
[7:09] So, I didn't go to, so during that time, Orlando already went to.
[7:12] Okay.
[7:13] I already went to Orlando or whatever because I'm thinking about it because someone had got
[7:17] mad that I had ended up watching The Niece.
[7:20] So, it was The Niece of Trask, Johnson, as a matter of fact.
[7:26] The little girls in the middle of the street or whatever, you know, we had to chit-chat
[7:28] and have a conversation.
[7:29] I'm just trying to tell them, like, hey, blah, blah, blah, you know, I'll watch her or whatever.
[7:33] And I ended up watching the girl that night or whatever.
[7:37] Apparently, Trask got mad about the situation, you know.
[7:40] And I'm just going to say everything he said.
[7:42] He's like, oh, you know, he's a fuck nigga for watching someone else's child.
[7:46] And then you also let that child be there at the house with someone that she don't know.
[7:53] And I explained to them that I have two daughters or whatever.
[7:56] She's in the front room.
[7:57] She's perfectly fine and safe.
[7:58] You can FaceTime and do whatever you want to.
[7:59] I just wanted the child to have a good home or somewhere to sleep for that night until
[8:04] she got off work to pick the child back up at 8 a.m.
[8:07] So, then, back to the story now.
[8:11] So, she gets the child at 8 a.m.
[8:13] You know, she gets ridiculed for the whole night.
[8:15] I don't hear everything that she's talking about.
[8:17] But then, today, after I dropped Liam off from daycare, I get a call on Ben on there
[8:24] saying, a text message saying that, what is she going to tell me?
[8:28] She said, oh, so apparently you was fucking another girl.
[8:34] She's like, apparently you was fucking another girl and they got you on the ring camera.
[8:39] When was this?
[8:40] Because you were with a girl named Liz.
[8:42] And I was like, that has nothing to do with you.
[8:44] So, I'm not even going to even talk about that.
[8:46] Like, I just let that situation go or whatever, you know.
[8:49] So, then, I go to call Trask up because I wanted to find out who was the one that said
[8:55] that you were going to shoot at my house.
[8:56] I want to know.
[8:57] Hey, bro, what's going on?
[8:59] Oh, man, don't fucking call me.
[9:01] I'm like, bro, I'm calling to find out answers.
[9:04] Like, I'm not calling you on no, like, tough guy stuff or no hypey stuff.
[9:08] And I can even show that, too, on my phone because I clearly texted him after he hung up
[9:12] and said, hey, man, I'm not trying to cause no issue.
[9:14] I just wanted to know, you know what I'm saying, like, what's going on?
[9:18] Why are you even putting my name in your mouth about this situation when I'm only dating this
[9:22] girl?
[9:22] I have nothing to do with you guys.
[9:24] You know what I'm saying?
[9:24] We live on the same street.
[9:25] We see each other.
[9:26] I cut your hair.
[9:27] But I have nothing to do with you.
[9:29] Other than those things, I would never talk to you, you know?
[9:32] So we're leaving it at that.
[9:34] So I drive home as I'm pulling into the Starbucks because they got the new Starbucks.
[9:39] That's where I live at behind there.
[9:40] I see him, and he opens up the door or whatever.
[9:44] It was like, oh, man, you a pussy-ass nigga.
[9:48] I told you once the first time that you need to keep that little pee-pee shooter on you
[9:53] and you need to, whatchamacallit, uh, yeah, I told you the first time you need to keep
[9:57] that little pee-pee shooter on you and, um, to stay protected.
[10:00] I was like, huh?
[10:01] I was like, that's weird.
[10:03] Which, actually, I got that in the text message, too, because this is not the first time he
[10:07] done threatened me.
[10:08] And like I said, he literally threatened me over a female, you know?
[10:12] So I got him in the text message or whatever, and I was like, damn, bro, that's kind of
[10:15] messed up with you being, you know, a convicted felon saying those type of things, and I'm
[10:19] not even trying to be on that level.
[10:20] I'm just trying to have a simple conversation with you.
[10:22] So then he was like, well, fuck it.
[10:24] Come and meet me, um, at the iSpy place, which is where he owns, and then over there at our
[10:29] business.
[10:29] I said, okay, bet, I will come over there.
[10:31] I get ready to get out of the truck.
[10:33] As you see, my truck was on a 45 angle.
[10:36] As I get out of the truck, he jumps out and immediately approaches me or whatever, and
[10:40] I start running his mouth, and I'm like, bro, I'm not even trying to hear that.
[10:43] Now, he don't know that I got my buddy, one of my owners, on the phone, just because
[10:48] I already knew for a witness.
[10:49] I said, John, please stay on the phone, but I put John on, uh, the mute.
[10:52] So that he couldn't hear if John were to say something.
[10:55] So, John was on the phone, and the phone was in the seat the entire time.
[11:00] I'm like, bro, I'm just trying to get answers on why you, you know, speaking about this and
[11:04] that.
[11:05] Man, fuck you, bro.
[11:06] You a pussy-ass nigga, this, that, and the other.
[11:08] I'll punch you in your fucking face.
[11:09] Now, you don't mind me standing up?
[11:11] You don't mind me standing up.
[11:12] Okay, that's what I want to say.
[11:13] So, I'm standing like this, facing him, you know what I'm saying?
[11:17] He says, he's like, I'll punch you in your fucking face.
[11:21] And goes and rears up, you know what I'm saying?
[11:24] Now, I grab him, I get a hold of his necklace and all this shit, this shit, breaking in the
[11:27] whole nine, or whatever.
[11:29] Now, after that, I black out.
[11:30] I don't know really too much what happened after that, because he goes and says, oh,
[11:35] I'm a whatchamacallit, I'm going to fucking go get something for you.
[11:37] So, I see buddy literally reaching into his car, reaching on the back of his fucking truck,
[11:42] or whatever.
[11:42] Now, he coming back at me again, or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
[11:45] Now, he goes and starts swinging, or whatever.
[11:48] Now, with this situation, okay, now he goes and starts swinging.
[11:51] I was just going to show what I was doing when I backed up.
[11:53] But he goes and swings, boom, boom, boom, I'm backing up, you know what I'm saying?
[11:57] Now, I wasn't going to call it, like I said, I wasn't going to call it fire upon his ass.
[12:00] Or whatever.
[12:01] But the thing is, is when he's sitting there doing that, he's still trying to steadily
[12:06] attack.
[12:06] And I'm just like, bro, like stop, stop, stop, or whatever, you know, like just stop,
[12:10] or whatever.
[12:10] There's no reason for this shit, you know what I'm saying?
[12:12] And that's when the shots end up happening, you know, from there.
[12:16] And then I saw one of the clients, which is the guy that was in a blue shirt, because
[12:21] he was going to get a haircut from Chris.
[12:23] He comes up and was telling me, oh, man, you know, like just chill out, chill out, chill out,
[12:28] whatever, blah, blah, blah.
[12:29] And I'm like, no, man.
[12:30] And I'm like, my firearm goes to jam.
[12:33] You know what I'm saying?
[12:34] My prior surgery, my firearm goes to jam.
[12:36] First thing I'm going to do is just go right back into training to clear it, so that way
[12:39] I can be able to defeat the threat or whatever.
[12:41] And I'm literally sitting there doing that.
[12:44] I put fire off one last shot.
[12:45] It jams again.
[12:46] I say, fuck it, you know, leave it alone.
[12:49] He's still sitting there.
[12:51] The dude's still kind of mad at me and agitated, but he don't even know what's led up to that.
[12:57] You know what I'm saying?
[12:57] Like he's mad.
[12:58] I'm like, bro, I'm trying to show you and tell you, I've been threatening this whole time
[13:03] or whatever, saying that I'm going to get shot at.
[13:05] And if someone goes and reaches into their vehicle to go and act upon it or I don't know
[13:09] what you got.
[13:10] Now, I smoke with him every day.
[13:11] See, this is another thing a lot of people don't know.
[13:13] Every morning, me and him sit with each other and smoke.
[13:17] You know what I'm saying?
[13:17] And he's a 50-50.
[13:19] And I don't know what type of shit he got because, like I said, he said he wanted to fire upon
[13:22] me and then also I got the text messages where they were saying they wanted to shoot at my
[13:26] house.
[13:27] But I don't know if you got a knife, a gun, or whatever the case is in your shit.
[13:33] You know?
[13:33] I do know that you do have knives and I do know that you do have guns, but I didn't know.
[13:38] So, like I said, you reaching in and I'll go grab something, I don't know what you got
[13:41] going on.
[13:42] And, like, I literally tried to defer the whole time.
[13:45] I'm sitting there saying, bruh, I am trying to talk and have a conversation with you man
[13:49] to man.
[13:50] That's why I post, I've sent it in the text message to tell you this, but immediately
[13:55] you, man, go call these fucking bitches.
[13:58] Man, go call these fucking bitches.
[13:59] And then you stand there threatening me, telling me you're going to hurt me and fucking
[14:02] punch me in my fucking face.
[14:03] That's not going to happen.
[14:05] You know what I'm saying?
[14:05] So, I stood my ground.
[14:07] So, what time, what time did you see him at Starbucks?
[14:14] My map is right, because I did, I texted my daughter, Aubrey, and I said, get ready.
[14:20] I mean, I was on the phone.
[14:22] Yeah, so I was on the phone.
[14:23] So, that was a little bit.
[14:24] I probably stayed around about nine, because my barbershop was open.
[14:28] My barbershop opened at nine o'clock and Nick was there and they always there first.
[14:31] So, Chris was sitting outside about nine, nine o'clock, between nine o'clock and 9.15.
[14:37] Okay.
[14:39] And was he, like, in the line at Starbucks or?
[14:46] No, sir.
[14:46] He jumped out on me or whatever.
[14:48] Like, as I'm going into the Starbucks at that first apron, you know, on the 44.
[14:53] You're coming off a 44 at Starbucks.
[14:55] Yes, sir.
[14:56] That's when I'm coming into there.
[14:58] He can't put his windows down on his truck.
[15:00] So, he just opened it.
[15:02] Immediately, I was nervous anyway, because the fucking windows are all blacked out.
[15:05] You know what I'm saying?
[15:06] And you literally just pulled it up like that.
[15:08] And if you look at the camera on Starbucks, you can see clearly that I stuck purposely.
[15:12] So, anyway, he didn't feel threatened in any way, shape, or form.
[15:15] I literally took both my hands like this and put it right outside the door.
[15:19] And said, man, I'm just trying to have a conversation with you.
[15:21] And that was, so if I pull into the building of Starbucks coming off the 44 this way.
[15:27] Where Don Posse is at?
[15:29] Between Starbucks and Don Posse?
[15:31] Yes, that apron there.
[15:32] Were you guys parked there?
[15:34] Yes, right there at that one there.
[15:35] You know, he was coming out, like his vehicle, whenever he was leaving out.
[15:39] And I was going in, because like I said, I cut through Starbucks to make that right.
[15:42] Because I live behind Whistler Pines.
[15:44] Okay.
[15:45] You know what I mean?
[15:45] Right there.
[15:46] And literally right there.
[15:47] Then he was just like, man, you know, let's chit-chat, talk about it.
[15:50] I said, okay, bet.
[15:51] I'll go back over there to go have a simple conversation.
[15:54] And now I'm sitting over here, you know, like I said, being threatened in the whole nine,
[15:57] feeling as if you're really going to hurt me.
[15:59] Because, like I said, this is multiple times that this has happened or whatever,
[16:03] to the fact that instead of having a conversation, you always bring it up that you're going to
[16:08] harm me and shoot me or do anything of that nature, you know?
[16:11] And did he say he was going to do something to you while you were there at Starbucks?
[16:15] Oh, yeah.
[16:15] No, no, not at Starbucks.
[16:16] No, not at Starbucks.
[16:17] So, what happened after he left Starbucks?
[16:22] I just turned around and then I followed him like he told me to.
[16:24] But then we were supposed to go straight, but there was a truck unloading vehicles from
[16:29] in front of a Dodge Plaza or whatever.
[16:31] So, I went around, you know what I'm saying, like that.
[16:33] So, when he came through the poverty line, he passed my barbershop and I came around, you
[16:39] know, like, I don't know what the other interests would be, but basically by the mailbox.
[16:42] You know what I'm saying, like that.
[16:44] And then that's why I started to park there at 45 because I wasn't going to be there alone.
[16:47] I didn't want to have the conversation and just leave.
[16:49] Right.
[16:49] You know what I'm saying?
[16:50] It wasn't like I'm trying to run up there and trying to harm you or nothing.
[16:52] I just quit conversation, boom, boom, boom, and get out of there because we can't park
[16:56] in the front anyway because of the businesses.
[16:58] Right.
[16:58] You can't block them so that other businesses have opportunity to be able to get money too.
[17:01] Okay.
[17:02] Yeah.
[17:02] So, he goes in and parks in front of his shop?
[17:06] Yeah, he backs in and parks right in front.
[17:08] Well, technically, there's tattoo shop.
[17:10] Okay, and then I saw where your truck was parked.
[17:12] Yeah.
[17:13] You got the silver Dodge.
[17:14] Silver Dodge right in there.
[17:14] Okay.
[17:15] So, was he getting out of his truck?
[17:20] Was he out of his truck when you pulled in?
[17:22] Yeah, he was getting out of his truck.
[17:23] I don't know, like, if I opened my door first or whatever to be exact, but I know that he,
[17:28] like I said, he came up to me.
[17:29] You know what I'm saying?
[17:30] And I was just like, oh, shit.
[17:32] You know, like, because it was just mad aggressive right off the rip.
[17:35] When he came at you, you were already out of your truck.
[17:38] Yeah.
[17:38] Like, I don't know if I was out of the truck halfway or just in all the way.
[17:41] Like, I know that he came up to me.
[17:43] The door was open, though.
[17:44] My door was open.
[17:45] You know what I'm saying?
[17:46] And that was it.
[17:47] Because I didn't know a lot of you.
[17:48] I think when I'm looking at him in the eye, like how I'm looking at you, I did look at
[17:52] him and see, like, he looked down.
[17:54] You know what I'm saying?
[17:55] Because he's been in my truck plenty of times.
[17:56] I keep my firearm literally on the door wall.
[17:59] You know what I'm saying?
[17:59] He ended up looking down, and then that's when that shit escalated there, where he was just
[18:05] like, oh, I do that.
[18:06] I'm like, bruh, this is just, just because you see it, it was in a holster and everything.
[18:12] On safety and the whole nine.
[18:13] You know what I'm saying?
[18:14] What kind of gun do you have?
[18:15] I carry a, what is it, Millennium G-2 Taurus?
[18:19] Uh-huh.
[18:19] Yeah, Millennium G-2 Taurus or whatever, you know?
[18:21] And you keep it in a holster?
[18:22] It was in a holster.
[18:23] I got a Blaytech holster, you know what I'm saying?
[18:25] Um, you know, the one that you ain't got to worry about the screws or whatever, the tension
[18:28] or nothing of that nature at all.
[18:30] And like I said, literally was on the door, you know, right then and there.
[18:34] But once that situation got abrupt or whatever like that, that's when I was like, shit,
[18:38] you even have me out here looking crazy.
[18:39] So, he looks down, he sees, he knows he's got your gun in the door.
[18:43] You didn't have your gun at that point?
[18:45] No, sir.
[18:46] Okay.
[18:47] No, sir.
[18:47] So, what happens now?
[18:48] Um, now after that situation ended up happening, like I said, I had pretty much, you know what
[18:54] I'm saying, I'm kind of like black because, when black because he started yelling or whatever.
[18:58] But what I'm thinking was, what it is that I'm sitting in the thing and he's like, oh,
[19:03] I got something for you.
[19:03] That's what it was.
[19:04] I got something for you or ass or whatever.
[19:07] And I was just like, oh, really?
[19:10] Exactly.
[19:10] Let me just go put it right here on my waistline.
[19:12] You know what I'm saying?
[19:13] And that's what I went and did because I have every right to do so.
[19:16] I put my arm on my waistline, but she didn't see though.
[19:18] You see what I'm saying?
[19:19] It wasn't like I'm like, okay, I got my shit and I'm going to, you know, so then I put
[19:22] it there and that's when I had to draw because he went to go start reaching or whatever, you
[19:27] know what I'm saying, for shit.
[19:27] And I'm like, oh my goodness.
[19:29] And we ended up getting in a tussle.
[19:31] Well, I'm sorry.
[19:32] We ended up getting in a tussle.
[19:33] That's what it was.
[19:34] I'm sorry.
[19:34] So he went and go and do the reaching.
[19:36] He started swinging on me or whatever.
[19:38] And then that's when, you know, he got fired apart.
[19:40] Did you grab him out of the truck?
[19:42] Oh, no, sir.
[19:43] He was reaching?
[19:43] No, sir.
[19:44] Okay.
[19:44] No, sir.
[19:45] I never even walked into his truck or whatever, like any way, shape or form.
[19:49] You know what I'm saying?
[19:49] I'm no casual doctor and I'm not going to do that shit.
[19:51] You know what I'm saying?
[19:52] Like, I'm not going to ever.
[19:53] So where were you guys at based on where your trucks are parked?
[19:58] In the middle of them.
[19:59] You're in between the two trucks?
[20:00] Yeah, in between the two trucks right there, sir.
[20:01] Okay.
[20:02] And that's where you guys started tussling.
[20:03] You're both grabbing on each other?
[20:05] Yes, sir.
[20:05] Okay.
[20:06] And you're throwing punches back and forth?
[20:07] Yeah.
[20:08] I actually grabbed him behind the truck, which I don't even know how the hell he get behind
[20:11] the wife of his truck.
[20:12] Behind his truck?
[20:13] Yeah, because you look at the scene, his necklace, his mom's necklace is laid behind there.
[20:17] Right.
[20:17] You see what I'm saying?
[20:18] Right in that area or whatever, right in there.
[20:20] And then, oh, that's why.
[20:21] Because we started back there.
[20:22] Then he started to swing.
[20:23] You're not going to swing on me.
[20:25] I try to get in an open area because my back was up against something.
[20:28] Right.
[20:28] And then that's when we came out to that area right there.
[20:30] And I literally, I'm with the left hand trying to control him, you know what I'm saying?
[20:34] The best I can or whatever.
[20:35] But he's just swinging away, swinging away.
[20:38] And I'm just like, damn, man.
[20:39] And I felt something cut me, but I didn't know what it was.
[20:42] You know what I'm saying?
[20:43] So, like, I got hit right there.
[20:45] And I'm just like, and then that's what it all said and wrote.
[20:48] And these are brand new props, too.
[20:49] Like, I literally was in a tussle with this dude.
[20:52] I got a hole on the side.
[20:53] Like, I'm homeless.
[20:54] So, you guys are, were you punching back on him?
[21:00] I did not be in the swing because I had, at the time, I had the cell phone in my left hand when I was on the phone with John.
[21:06] Yeah.
[21:06] So, you came out with John on the phone?
[21:09] Yeah.
[21:09] I was on, yeah, correct.
[21:11] So, you're still trying to hold on to your phone?
[21:13] Yeah.
[21:13] Fend him off.
[21:16] You guys get out to the parking lot.
[21:19] And are you left-handed or right-handed?
[21:21] I am right-handed.
[21:22] Right-handed.
[21:22] Okay.
[21:23] So, then you took a shot?
[21:25] Correct.
[21:25] Okay.
[21:29] Right-handed shooter on the ticket?
[21:30] Yeah, right-handed shooter.
[21:31] Got John on it.
[21:32] Because it was a close-order shot.
[21:34] I stood up.
[21:35] I'm standing up or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
[21:37] In the situation, he's right here.
[21:40] And he just steadily swinging.
[21:41] So, I drew my weapon up here, brought it out, and just two shots, you know what I'm saying?
[21:46] Like I said, my shit went to jam.
[21:47] I went to go and figure it out what was going on or whatever.
[21:51] But he steadily saying that, literally, while he on the ground, I'm going to fucking kill you.
[21:55] I'm like, man, bullshit.
[21:57] You know what I'm saying?
[21:57] Because I don't know what you have on you.
[21:59] Right.
[21:59] I don't know.
[22:00] I don't know if you have a firearm or any way, shape, or form.
[22:02] You know what I'm saying?
[22:03] All I do is see this black cell phone here laying there, and I'm just like, damn, man.
[22:08] And that was all she wrote.
[22:09] Gun jams.
[22:10] I cleared it back to work again.
[22:13] I fired another shot or whatever, was to let him stay down.
[22:16] And that's when the guy, the guy with the blue shirt, I did notice he runs over or whatever,
[22:22] and he's trying to help me.
[22:23] I'm like, bro, don't touch him, you know, because I don't know, like, you know, like,
[22:25] the whole suing of the thing.
[22:27] And he may not know what he's doing.
[22:29] I let EMS handle the situation, but then when I went to go touch him on his shoulder during
[22:35] the situation, he's like, get the fuck off of me.
[22:37] But like I told the Leo that was here earlier, and I noticed, as soon as the situation happened,
[22:43] Traf's family member came up there, and they immediately went to go talk to him.
[22:48] Now I thought back or whatever, as me being a barber and seeing, he's family with them.
[22:53] You see what I'm saying?
[22:54] So, like, I don't know how he's related or where he's at with that part, but it's just,
[22:59] like I said, he's family with them because as soon as those two females came there, instead
[23:03] of seeing about my age, they ran right over to him, directly to him.
[23:07] And I know...
[23:07] Was that the guy, I think he was wearing black shorts?
[23:11] No, he had blue...
[23:12] No, no, no, the guy that called in with the all blue on, and the blue hat, the white guy.
[23:17] Yeah.
[23:17] Yeah, that guy, they ran directly to him because he went and called everybody and told them,
[23:22] hey, skinny shot, Traf's.
[23:24] Oh, he's going to stab him.
[23:25] You see what I'm saying?
[23:26] That's why they was able to get to the scene, and that's why I told him that.
[23:29] That's why I was trying to tell the guy, I'm like, man, please, please get me in this
[23:31] car because I don't know what them guys are going to do.
[23:33] Right.
[23:34] You know what I'm saying?
[23:35] Like...
[23:35] So that was when he was still walking back over to where Traf's was, and you told him
[23:42] to step back.
[23:43] Yeah, yes.
[23:47] And I was just trying to tell them or whatever, like, hey, someone got shot, you know what
[23:51] I'm saying?
[23:52] Like, as well, you know what I'm saying?
[23:55] They're trying to figure out, and they were trying to tell him, like, oh, can he be, you
[23:58] know, like, can you do any, you know, chest, this, this, and the other, and I'm trying
[24:02] to tell them, like, don't do that, don't roll him over, but like I said, with that
[24:06] situation, he was pissed, you know what I'm saying?
[24:08] That I shot one of the family members or whatever out of self-defense, and he's just
[24:13] like, get the fuck off of me.
[24:14] I said, bro, I'm going to walk away.
[24:16] How is he related to Traf's?
[24:17] That I have no idea because they got mixed family, you know, black and white, everybody,
[24:21] you know, nowadays, but I have no idea, to be honest.
[24:25] It's got to be down to family tree, but I do know that they are just because of the
[24:29] simple fact of, you know, seeing the timeline and then not thinking back in the day, whenever,
[24:34] like, he used to bring the boys in for a haircut, his sister is dating somebody
[24:39] from Crystal River that's black or whatever, you know, like I said, some Chavon Ashanti
[24:43] guy or whatever.
[24:44] I don't know how to pronounce the guy's name, per se.
[24:46] Okay.
[24:48] Um, you said, going back just a little bit, you said Traf was looking in his, in his truck.
[24:56] Yes.
[24:57] Did he ever come out with anything?
[24:59] That, I wouldn't let him, I wouldn't even let him come out with anything.
[25:02] Okay.
[25:02] You know what I'm saying?
[25:03] You didn't see him with a gun or a knife or a stick?
[25:05] No, sir.
[25:06] You know what I'm saying?
[25:06] The only thing I saw was just, like I said, he had something black in his hand and then
[25:10] like I said, once all that whole incident and everything, it dropped and it was a cell
[25:15] phone that slid, you know what I'm saying?
[25:16] Like that.
[25:17] And that was it.
[25:18] And then whenever the cell phone slid, I kind of like, you know, kicked it off to the side
[25:22] away from where he was at, you know what I mean?
[25:25] Like that situation.
[25:26] And then that's when I cleared over and put the mag on, I don't know if I left it on the
[25:31] floorboard or the seat, you know what I mean?
[25:33] So you cleared your...
[25:35] Yeah, I took everything out.
[25:36] You cleared it up, set it down on the ground, set the mag off to the side?
[25:39] Yes, sir.
[25:40] Okay.
[25:40] Yes, sir.
[25:42] Like I said, that wasn't my intention in any way, shape or form or whatever.
[25:45] It literally, you know, me defending myself or whatever with a situation.
[25:49] I wasn't leaving from Starbucks to be like, yeah, I'm going to get buddy.
[25:52] No, sir.
[25:53] None of that in any way, shape or form.
[25:55] It's just simply just to have a conversation and find out what was going on prior or a couple
[26:01] of days ago, you know what I'm saying?
[26:02] And why my name is being brought up to something.
[26:04] Because I've been, I've been trying to get a, like to be real with you, I've been trying
[26:08] to get with this girl for a long, long time.
[26:10] You know, how's this girl related to...
[26:13] The girl is actually, which y'all probably know is Jakey, her baby daddy, you know?
[26:18] And I'm thinking low key that he may have been the one that sent the text message either
[26:24] away, but the thing is, is he didn't know.
[26:26] He was never home.
[26:28] Like I can even show him on camera.
[26:29] He was never home to see that she came to my house.
[26:32] The only person that knew that she came to my house was Trask.
[26:36] Okay.
[26:37] You see what I'm saying?
[26:37] And then they got brought, and then he get, the guy gets home at 12 o'clock at night.
[26:43] This girl been gone for at least six hours.
[26:46] You know what I'm saying?
[26:48] Soon as the little girl, soon as the little girl goes into the house and falls asleep and
[26:52] I text her and let her know that the little girl fell asleep.
[26:54] That's when him and Trask had been talking and conversating about her being, the baby mama
[27:01] being at the house and it became an issue, you know?
[27:04] So then, that's when I got that text message or whatever that stated, you fucking with the
[27:10] wrong one because there's no other guy that would send that message.
[27:15] Either the baby mama, I mean the baby, that's the only person, it's just the baby daddy.
[27:19] That's it.
[27:20] Literally would be the only one that sent that text message, you know?
[27:23] Trask wouldn't send that text message, but Trask would give him that information to say
[27:27] that, you know?
[27:28] Just like he gave her and I can show him the text message, the information because I was,
[27:34] I literally, I'm telling you, every morning we sit there and smoke, I literally sat here
[27:37] and said, man, you know, I want to fuck this girl or whatever, you know?
[27:40] But her rain camera, I tried to talk off to the side so her rain camera wouldn't catch
[27:44] me, you know what I mean?
[27:45] Because girls will do that.
[27:46] They got this little app out like, don't fuck with these guys or whatever, you know?
[27:49] And it is what it is, but, and I didn't care nothing about it.
[27:52] But, I also had a girlfriend at the time that I was getting ready to break up with and
[27:56] I didn't want the shit to get out there, you know what I'm saying?
[27:58] So I'm like, damn, bro, like, you know, you want to say, you know what I'm saying?
[28:02] Like, you know, when it broke, broke code and told everybody on the street.
[28:05] Who, who is John?
[28:07] John, um, is, you know, his last name?
[28:09] Estevez.
[28:11] Estevez?
[28:11] Estevez.
[28:12] He is, uh, Mickey Dixon's brother-in-law.
[28:15] He's one of my co-owners.
[28:17] Okay.
[28:18] And he was on the phone.
[28:19] Was he at work?
[28:20] No, he wasn't at work, he was at the house.
[28:22] He was at the house?
[28:22] Yeah, he was at the house.
[28:24] Um.
[28:25] And I, I was calling him about that information about the, the, the, the weekend thing or whatever.
[28:30] I was calling him about that.
[28:31] So, all the texts that you've been talking about are, are in your phone right now?
[28:36] Yes, sir.
[28:38] Would you consent to let us download those?
[28:41] Hell yeah.
[28:42] Okay.
[28:43] What's the, what's the passcode for your phone?
[28:46] 2048.
[28:47] So, we brought, we brought your phone over here.
[28:58] That's fine.
[28:58] They're in, they can do it in an office right here.
[29:01] Do I get you a, a consent form?
[29:03] Would you consent to us downloading your phone?
[29:05] Yeah.
[29:05] Yeah.
[29:06] I mean, don't look at the video, you know what I'm saying?
[29:08] But other, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I'm looking for real though.
[29:11] This information that you're, you're telling us.
[29:14] Um.
[29:14] Yeah.
[29:15] Because I saved it, I saved it.
[29:16] And I even screenshot it and sent it to that girl.
[29:18] The girl ain't got nothing to do with it.
[29:20] we just trying to get a relationship together you know what i'm saying right but like somebody else
[29:26] i got to talk to like john we got to talk to and now i gotta go to starbucks and talk to them so i
[29:31] could make sure we're looking at all the same stuff and you tell me all this information's in
[29:35] your phone if you if you consent to let me do that we can get that taken care of while you're still
[29:40] sitting here and that way if you decided that hey i don't want to do that no more no no no no i want
[29:46] y'all to see that because like i said i really i'm still nervous that's the reason why i made sure
[29:51] that my doors got out of that house right you know i'm saying after this situation because it was so
[29:55] fast the weird how trash people were the only one to find out that that situation happened you
[30:02] know what i'm saying that's why i was worried i was just like oh no please just get my daughters out
[30:06] of that house okay no sit sit tight let me get a four real quick okay and i'll be right back okay
[30:13] you good yes um he's got more information we were all over the place this morning and so i was
[30:21] working on a different person and they called and asked for some help yeah i heard over the thing
[30:25] but i'm kind of not clear i'm more clear now what happened yes um the only question i had was
[30:33] in between the shots so you said he went digging in his truck right and then that's when you put your
[30:40] gun in your waistband yeah when he went in the first door the first line when he went back to his
[30:45] thing because he came up to me you know what i'm saying and said i'll punch you in your face then
[30:49] he went back to his truck you know what i'm saying so and when he came up to you he said he punched in
[30:55] your face did he say anything else no he's like i punch in your face or whatever if you try me like
[30:59] that i'm like i didn't try you that's exactly what i just said like literally i'm just like i did not
[31:04] try you noncelantly but like i said prior service bill paying attention to my surroundings you went you
[31:09] wouldn't turn your back on me so i don't know if you wouldn't just scoop something in there or whatever
[31:14] the case is and he kept trying to screw around the back of the truck or whatever you know like the
[31:19] side of it so the way i couldn't see and i'm like uh-uh so then we end up getting into it like he
[31:24] approaches me and we get into the fight and like i said we so close that i don't know what the hell's
[31:29] going on you know what i'm saying like i really don't know what's going on at all but besides the
[31:34] swinging part you know what i mean i'm trying to really try to keep the distance but i'm also trying
[31:38] to see what the hell he's trying to do yeah you know i'm saying in that situation and then that's
[31:42] whenever he went to go swing i'm like oh hell no and i saw him look i literally looked to see him
[31:46] like oh he looked like he's in a region i'm like i can't i can't sit there and check that
[31:51] did you have a hold of him when you when you fired the first one yes yes the first two shots i had a
[31:55] hold of him with my left hand with my left hand like his shirt yeah the shirt okay he's wearing two
[32:00] shirts he always wears a white shirt in the back and then he had his brand shirt of the business
[32:04] and the front over at that time and then uh so the first two you had a hold of him
[32:12] gun in the right hand yes pulled from the waistband correct bang bang quick correct all right whenever
[32:19] i was in the service they tried to call the control pierce so i just did shoot shots and then i tried
[32:23] to see what happened after that how close i mean was it like full arm playing did you was it close up on
[32:30] him it was close up on him it was close up on him yeah it was close shots or whatever you know
[32:33] what i'm saying like i said i felt threatened that dude sitting that swinging on me like that i'm
[32:36] like oh no yeah you know what i'm saying that was too close or whatever because any situation
[32:40] you and i both know if he did have any knife or weapon on him it could have been me you know
[32:45] what i'm saying if he didn't have the proper training or whatever at all but you know i'm prior
[32:50] service so i just knew what to do and what to expect and what to do to protect myself and i wasn't
[32:54] finna sit there and just let you know that type of thing happen where he pulls out a knife or a gun
[33:00] and now he's slinging it and i'm now i'm i'm messed up you know right and so you fire the two rounds
[33:07] what happens does he does he go down immediately he went down not immediately he held his chest for
[33:13] a second and he gets ready to come back at me towards again or whatever you know like i said
[33:18] literally coming back towards me again he falls down to the ground boom now he's down onto the ground
[33:23] and he's like trying to get up and he's like i'm gonna kill you and i'm just like man and i'm just like
[33:28] that's this bullshit you know and i wouldn't let my ground go but it was all it wasn't like i'm
[33:33] i don't want you to notice it ain't like shoot shoot let's wait wait wait wait wait wait wait and
[33:38] then shot again you know what i'm saying that's what i'm trying to say i shot clear it quick you
[33:43] know what i'm saying protocol bump you know clear and then i shot and then that's when it jammed again
[33:48] and i was like oh shit so then that's when i dropped the mag and then i went ahead and dumped you
[33:53] know i charged it back clear to make sure there was nothing in there at all and then that was it and then i
[33:58] saw the dude walking around and i told him to stay away which is the guy in the blue shirt that's the
[34:02] reason why we more or less started talking because he was trying to walk around the whole scene thing
[34:07] and i'm like bro just stay away you know what i'm saying because like i don't already took my my weapon
[34:11] apart you know so i'm just like just stay away you know what i'm saying because i didn't want them to
[34:19] be like oh coming up there all guns blazing like i don't live if they even lay on the ground
[34:24] you know what i'm saying like so what i'm trying to understand is so is two shots he went down you said
[34:28] your gun jammed yes and you had to you had to fix the jam and so you got the jam fixed yeah and fired
[34:34] correct one more yeah how far was he when you fired that third i was still in the same spot how far
[34:41] was he from you about i don't know probably from about me to you i would probably say give or take
[34:45] or whatever right then and then you know what i'm saying give or take how long did it take you to fix
[34:49] your jam no i didn't take that long quick yeah from training yeah it's quick from training did stovepipe on
[34:55] me what happened no it literally it did stovepipe but um i think what happened is since i was telling
[35:02] the guy it's been i don't know how many years i've had that firearm for so depending on what magazine
[35:07] did i grab that morning to throw in there you know what i'm saying it could have been like the rounds
[35:12] being not flushed up against the back to smoothly go through and it's a tourist so it wasn't feeding that
[35:17] bet the best or whatever you know what i mean like i don't know what the last time i won that bad boy
[35:21] like i said man i never really thought that i would ever have to use a firearm here you know
[35:27] i'm saying on u.s soil but at the same token you know it did happen you know what i'm saying and
[35:32] it sucked or whatever you know because god forbid if he did have one i would have been messed up as
[35:37] well too because mine jammed mine jammed out the two shots you know what i'm saying and then i'm just
[35:42] like i was screwed after that yeah so yeah that's the only thing but like i said i tried i tried to
[35:49] clear as fast as possible and just just like i said i'm literally just neutralizing the threat
[35:53] or whatever you know you still steadily telling me that you're going to see him kill me or whatever
[35:57] and that was it and i took that shot i wasn't going to sit down and go clear it again and then
[36:01] keep shooting shooting shooting until all of the rounds were gone you know i'm just like i'm just that's
[36:06] it yeah you know and i'm literally clearing and put it up and so prior to this you had a pretty
[36:13] cordial relationship with him right every day man you guys hung out so every day we used to go to the
[36:19] flowery that's why i never understood it i'm i could show it in the messages bro we like i don't
[36:24] think the messaging would stay where i said that hey we've been friends for so long but it may have
[36:29] you know what i'm saying but i'm just like bro we smoke every single day together bro we wrote the
[36:34] four bullets together with each other you know what i'm saying and for you to sit back here and just all
[36:39] i wanted to know was whether or not if you told the new girl that i'm trying to get with that i slept with
[36:45] britney that was it even if you just said yeah i wasn't gonna fight you because of that i just
[36:51] wanted to know you know what i'm saying because we're just going around saying that you said this
[36:56] and you said that and i'm just like bro i just wanted to know simple but when you immediately
[37:01] getting all agitated and i'm just like you know in the back of my mind i'm like it just like
[37:07] it's just ridiculous you know what i'm saying so do you think he was trying to give that girl no no no no no no
[37:14] he doesn't know he has a whole family or whatever he was just giving the information to that that dude
[37:20] that sent that message saying that he was going to shoot my house up and you think he's like good
[37:24] friends with that guy oh no they're real good friends they man i'm keeping real with you and
[37:28] everybody know it you didn't when you were telling trash you were trying to get with her
[37:34] you didn't know that he was good friends correct like that you see what i'm saying yeah yeah he went
[37:39] back and that's why i said i put two and two together because i'm like the only person i talked to
[37:44] about this girl and i'm excited you know i was like damn bro like look you know what i'm saying
[37:47] she just sent me a bathing suit photo like and down center and he was happy he was but i guess that
[37:54] was the cover-up and so what's the scene what's the new girl's name uh her name is amanda nelson
[38:00] but like i said she ain't got nothing to do she just you know i'm saying she's been trying to get with
[38:06] no and and it's i'm not trying to drag no more people into we verify your story yeah everything makes
[38:12] sense and where does she live close to you citrus hills okay she lives far but what she did was
[38:18] she just you know when she in the midst of going to our end because i think she works in leesburg
[38:22] so she'll pass through she passes through citrus county so like when we first started talking we
[38:28] would meet each other up in the morning i would get coffee at papa james every morning every morning
[38:32] you know what i'm saying because i'm trying to go in there and shake hands with those people
[38:35] and then this time she had to go work um later on in the night shift because she picked up an extra
[38:43] shift for bills you know what i'm saying so that was the only reason why she came to my house but when
[38:47] she walked across the street to the guy's house the way she dropped off the little girl he was still
[38:52] sitting outside seeing everything like you know i'm i'm looking through the window i didn't go outside
[38:56] i'm stupid you know what i'm saying i was just like damn man she coming over here i don't want my neighbors
[39:01] to be like damn it's another female like within a week that's the real reason why i didn't walk
[39:04] outside so i let her come inside you know and then they were that's when i'm telling you man like i
[39:11] said i literally was just a crazy timeline as soon as i seen him come home at 12 12 30 which is the baby
[39:16] daddy then right after that i'm they talked you know there's no way that trash would never talk because
[39:23] i didn't go over there and tell you tell you that she was here you see what i'm saying and he didn't
[39:28] even know that that little girl was even staying in the house so how long ago was that like i said
[39:33] that was probably what sunday probably sunday and she came to your house yeah she came to my house
[39:38] she part of my she part of my driveway and just walked across the street to go drop one little
[39:41] girl off though so she knows somebody across the street yeah that's her baby daddy okay the baby
[39:46] daddy is the one that's across the street like i said and that's why he said when he said when he
[39:50] was like you know you're with the wrong one uh you're with mines or whatever and then he went and
[39:55] said to her uh or said to me we can go thought for thought meaning like he wanted to my recent
[40:02] ex which i don't care you know and or um you can get your house sprayed and then that's when i was
[40:08] running back who is this and i said like you said like you know why are we talking about shooting up
[40:12] a house knowing that my children live in here you know what i'm saying and over a female and i clear
[40:18] they put on there you fucked up you know i'm saying i'm gonna be at alert at all times now you know
[40:22] what i'm saying you literally sit there and say that you're gonna hurt me then i'm gonna be at
[40:26] alert but i didn't i was i was gonna go and talk to the guy across the street the next day but he
[40:30] wakes up so early because he he got the international egg roll place that's over there posted up and
[40:35] hold her uh he leaves to go pick up his trailer and the whole night so i didn't get a chance to talk
[40:39] to him face to face but i do in my heart feels as if that you're the only one that would have sent that
[40:44] message there's no other person i'm following you know what i'm saying but it's not you got trashy's number
[40:50] in your phone i got trashy's number in my phone yeah i wasn't trashy sent that message no sir it was
[40:54] from a totally different number and we actually tried to call it and then we googled the number
[40:57] and it came back to a black chicken like miami or whatever so they may have to use one of them like
[41:02] uh talk to talk right apps or whatever you want to check that thing what kind of what kind of phone
[41:10] you got iphone 12. slide over your seat real quick let me sit next to him and we'll go
[41:27] quickly all right what it says is juan d ross hereby authorized to give permission to
[41:41] me detective slingerman identify himself as a law enforcement officer uh with the necessities of
[41:46] computer forensic examiner to make a full and complete search of your cell phone computer
[41:51] it's not we're just doing the cell phone okay related materials located here sheriff's office
[41:56] that's our address uh related to this case number for our investigation all right uh you have been advised
[42:03] by the above law enforcement officer law enforcement officers are engaged in investigation concerning
[42:07] alleged violation federal and or state laws i do further authorize and give permission to take
[42:12] away i'm not taking anything from your residence your computers i'm not taking any of that
[42:20] anything about your relevance in this investigation you're saying i'm taking i'm not taking any of the
[42:24] items just looking at the data that's on your phone right now okay iphone 12. i'm going to go in
[42:30] here and look at your serial number okay all right above the law enforcement officer has fully and
[42:38] fairly advised you of your rights as follows that you have the right to refuse consent to the search
[42:42] of this property you have the right to consult with an attorney or any other person of your choice prior
[42:46] to giving this consent and permission to search the above iphone that any of the computers computer
[42:54] profiles related media found by said officers in the course of their search can be used against you or
[42:59] others in court logging we're not doing computers just or so forth i fully understand appreciate
[43:03] these rights and wish to be specifically understood that i am hereby giving consent and permission to
[43:09] conduct the search of the cellular telephone not the other items solely because of my desire to freely
[43:15] and voluntarily cooperate with this investigation i have not been promised or persuaded in any way nor
[43:20] has any inducement of any kind been held out to me in return for this consent and permission to search
[43:26] understand all that yeah you would have just signed right there for me i just cut here how long you
[43:45] been cutting here at least 23 years you know 23 years to be in final i'm 35 so i picked them up at a
[43:57] young age all the time on there all right so are these regular text messages yes sir you can hit right
[44:04] down in your messaging app now um slide up um you're going to go to that stable so that's one right there but i want
[44:13] you to see the one where it shows the buddy was sitting there okay here we go right there the five
[44:18] one the five six five six one yes sir you playing a game of king mine you know
[44:33] you don't know who that that number is you know sir like i said i was literally sleeping you see the
[44:39] timeline i was knocked out and then i went to go to the bathroom at three o'clock only did it because
[44:44] my neighbors had made a little bit of noise and i'm like you know right who the hell is this so that was
[44:57] that was this one right here yes sir and then sabo's is up now who's sabo sabo is his his street
[45:05] name is sabo but his name is trash okay so this is this is trash yes all right that's you mind if i
[45:12] scroll back through yeah you're perfectly fine that's that's i don't know if that was see right here
[45:16] this is where i was going to get ready to start texting him and say you know my fault for stepping up
[45:20] and feeding your niece um when your brother did not uh have food in this house at all and letting my
[45:26] daughters walk down the road to play with her she didn't even have anywhere to play with um the
[45:32] little girl did not actually be brought into this world and i was going to continue to put on there
[45:35] and say like you know i'm just you know helping that was literally it you know what i mean but this
[45:40] is where it was at this morning right here you go up that was this before you saw him at yeah this
[45:47] is before i saw him at starbucks okay i didn't want to you know what i'm saying because i thought that's what he
[45:51] would have been bothered by because you know his niece was at my house that's why i figured that
[45:56] would have been a thing that put him over the top but if you keep going up that's my that's my text
[46:02] message in the booth so they're from today so this is from today when is this from that's not from
[46:06] today that's from no you keep going okay yeah you want to go to today no no problem on i see these are
[46:12] friday messages no no no no no no no honestly you can look at it it's funny because he thought that uh
[46:16] the police was watching him you know what i'm saying okay and i said i think so because i'm just
[46:32] i was just with him like because he called nick and personally i don't care whether or not you
[46:37] getting watched by the police okay okay so this is nine o'clock nine on nine there you go now we was
[46:45] on the phone chit chatting beforehand you know waiting this is this is after you guys are talking
[46:51] no this morning this is on my way back from picking up dropping off liam she has nine on nine
[46:56] right here i'm on my way back from dropping off liam when i received a text message from uh the girl
[47:03] amanda you know and i was like let me just go and call buddy really quick you know to see what's going
[47:08] on and then i'm on the phone talking to him i said hey man you know i've been with you friends with you
[47:12] for a long time i just want to know what's going on you know blah blah blah man you a
[47:16] fuck nigga don't know what i hung on the phone i'm like that's kind of weird you know what i'm
[47:21] saying and that's what he texted it was just like you know saying that he don't play whole games and i
[47:26] just responded back and told him i just said that i'm not trying to do this i really honestly not it
[47:30] just a simple question so you said you're on your way to hit to your shop right now because this is
[47:37] ridiculous so so you were already you're on your way to go no i'm on my way to go home okay and then that's
[47:45] when i ended up just like coming through the thing and i saw him like i'm literally on my way home
[47:49] you know what i'm saying that was just it sometimes i drive by and check on my barber shop but i didn't
[47:55] at that time i didn't have time to do that you bring back nick yeah you all done yeah so so you were
[48:07] going this morning you were heading home from ocala and then you see trash at starbucks not see him i
[48:27] ain't see him and then like oh he's right there let me pull in i'm just on my way home right you
[48:32] know what i'm saying that's just it so he was coming out of starbucks you know so he may have went in
[48:36] and got a drink because from the angle of where he came from he wouldn't it didn't look like he came
[48:41] through the drive-thru line okay but either way so you're you're on rodney wanted to be known that i
[48:47] did not go like i didn't like see him over there and be like oh i'm gonna go and try to conversate with
[48:52] him type of shit i literally just driving down the road i mean i turned into a starbucks
[48:58] or whatever right there and that's my shortcut way to go to take the back road okay so you're
[49:02] just cutting through starbucks see you just yeah i wasn't doing that he just happened exactly okay
[49:08] you know what i'm saying because like i said our business is right there like literally his business
[49:12] is here my business is here and both our apartments on the same like literally right behind there our
[49:16] apartments are behind the um yeah the business there's two stories because the colonial plaza yeah colonial plaza
[49:25] yeah yeah but colonial plaza is right like literally right behind it that's what we say
[49:29] back to the silverwood yeah that's where i stay out of silverwood yeah so you're using starbucks as a
[49:36] cut through so you ain't got to go all the way down around racetrack or even to the light and we sit
[49:41] there at the light and make a left you know which way were you coming from were you coming from off of
[49:45] independence off of independence yeah coming off of independence whatever and made that left and so you were
[49:49] going home so you go past colonnade go past racetrack and go and cut through starbucks correct which
[49:57] comes back out the colonnade correct okay and then you turn down and go and i'll turn right and make
[50:02] that next right is that that stop sign right there on the new apartments correct okay because that's
[50:07] why everybody got to stand out there i see people standing out there all day smoking because they can't
[50:10] smoke they can't smoke in there correct okay so you you turn you cut through as you're cutting through
[50:17] trash just happens to be you're pulling out but he was in like before we before i even made it to
[50:24] that second colony like like i said as soon as i turned left and i come into the apron so i mean like
[50:30] i said i literally got half of my truck ass in on the concrete pad of the apron and the rest of it on
[50:36] the asphalt like that type of deal so it's literally right at the entrance okay so whatever you know but
[50:41] he jumped out mad aggressive you know or whatever i'm like damn man start up yeah he jumped out
[50:47] he jumped out at the start yeah now you guys had already had the phone conversation correct
[50:52] trying to resolve it yeah well i tried i just tried to call him in and he started calling out are
[50:57] he hung up on you yeah he said some choice words and then he hung up i thought i lost service because
[51:01] i'm coming back from 200 but then when i went to go call again he didn't answer okay so then that's when
[51:06] i said that look that he was mad okay you driving and texting no no no the text messages that we just
[51:14] looked at yes we're after that conversation yes but before you see him at starbucks okay yes so then
[51:23] you pull in he jumped out of his truck at starbucks correct you guys had another hey what was he saying
[51:34] he was saying that he just like man you're a pussy ass nigger it was specifically that you're a
[51:39] pussy ass nigger you're acting like these hoes out here go and call them bitches and tell them exactly
[51:44] what i said i'm like i don't need to know what that was said i know what was said right or whatever
[51:48] you literally were the only one that was around me when i was happy that i said what i said about
[51:55] messing with that girl and then also getting the new girl okay you know what i'm saying okay the only
[52:00] one because i tell you we literally sitting there we're not smoking for we call it a safety meeting
[52:05] for a whole hour and we're just rambling okay just chit chatting you know he telling me his problems
[52:10] about life i'm telling him my financial problems about life so now did did he say anything that he was
[52:17] gonna beat your ass terrible shop oh yeah he hit the house right no he's saying that right not not not
[52:24] when he was at starbucks or whatever he was just like that he just said man come over here and have a
[52:28] conversation with me or whatever i said okay then so i really backed up went to the thing like i said
[52:34] as soon as i pull out to the suicide lane there's a 18 wheeler taking off them trucks or whatever you
[52:40] know what i'm saying so he pulls out yeah he goes in front of him though he ain't gonna lie i don't
[52:43] know why he did that one though right because he he's facing the semi and he he goes all the way from
[52:48] the semi on on to the left lane 44 drives up to towards the traffic and then turns in i'm like oh hell
[52:55] no i'm not doing that that's why i went all the way around the semi and came in because you know anybody can
[53:01] hit you it's a heel it's kind of like a heel right there oh i know i you know what i mean i don't
[53:05] like so when you come out of starbucks exactly i was about to say you come out of starbucks you don't
[53:08] look three times maybe you might get hit because people flying coming over that heel that's common
[53:14] sense so then yeah he pulls in back backs backs in in front of his shop so why why did you come in at a
[53:23] 45 i was just gonna just have a conversation to leave i had to get aubrey like i said before i texted
[53:28] my daughter to get ready for school because today i have the day whatever she wanted to go specifically
[53:32] today so she could know what her friends were wearing afterwards you know and aubrey was still
[53:37] at the house and aubrey and emmy is still at the house okay i got a high school and then i got a kid
[53:41] that's getting ready to go into the school okay so you just got two kids at the house correct okay and
[53:45] that's why i park like that because i'm looking through the way i'm dressed i mean it's nine o'clock or
[53:49] whatever i wasn't gonna go to work like this okay you know i'm saying i always wear like you know
[53:53] uniform vibes dress up whatever you know looking in the wood especially if i'm not cutting grass but
[53:57] i would never go to dress like this okay you know so you just want to have a conversation with him
[54:05] yeah finish what the conversation was and i wasn't even wondering the conversation he actually told me
[54:09] to come back to have a conversation come back over here you know what i'm saying yeah i was going
[54:12] i literally could have cut through go drop her off because i needed to get to work you know i'm saying
[54:16] like on my app or whatever on my phone and you know i got a busky app yeah so people can book an
[54:21] appointment whenever they want to between those hours so i literally was like damn man i might
[54:26] only got like 30 minutes to get here to get aubrey you know do what i need to do that's why i said i'm
[54:30] gonna go up there talk to bro and i'm going to tell them clear the day bro let's let's like we're gonna
[54:35] have this conversation you know what i'm saying but let's run out here to the flowery real quick you
[54:39] know what i'm saying we'll get some new and we're gonna smoke and figure out what the
[54:42] really going on and then go about our merry-o-way because like i told you this is not the first time
[54:48] that a situation happened i should have showed you actually that where he actually threatened me
[54:52] on his part a few months back about a situation that's i still got that too on now where he told
[54:57] me he said you better make sure you keep that little pp shooter with you and i'm like why would
[55:03] you even bring that up why would you even say that but when you pull in he jumped out you got out
[55:12] or at least open your door yeah get out right he looks down sees your gun in the door
[55:17] and you get out you guys start grabbing on each other yeah correct but he went to his vehicle
[55:24] first though did he go did he go get into the driver's door he opened the driver's door he opens
[55:30] the driver's door but he has a back turned to me and like i was telling him he had a back turned to me
[55:35] or whatever and that's when i was just like oh hell no because i don't know what you're gonna have
[55:38] you know what i'm saying so i just like because he could have the knife the machete any of that stuff
[55:43] he goes fishing a lot right i do know that much so he opens his door so you go back get your gun correct
[55:49] put your gun in your waistband he didn't come out of his truck with anything but he closed his door
[55:55] um no he adjusted his shirt though he did do adjusting a little bit of the shirt and i just
[56:00] like i didn't know i like kind of get that number like oh you know what i'm saying like you know so
[56:05] then you guys start yeah pushing shoving you wind up pushing back behind the his truck
[56:13] mm-hmm and then still pushing pushing correct and then we get out into the front get out into the
[56:19] front mm-hmm and then that's when i had to do the close quarter shootings you draw you draw yours you
[56:24] shoot them one time no twice two shots boom boom okay the first one yeah shot right there in the
[56:30] center correct i saw exactly where every shot went and then he like he kind of like falls to a seated spot
[56:38] kind of falls down on his butt i don't know i just did it you know what i'm saying the two shots
[56:43] you know one and then you did another one yeah so i don't know second no i don't see like i didn't see
[56:49] directly where every bullet went i'm not when i walked up on him yes after that like after like
[56:55] whenever i was telling him like damn he got hit cinemas one in the arm one in the face or whatever
[57:01] you know what i'm saying like so i was just like damn so your second one then you got were you trying
[57:06] to shoot a third time and yeah i was trying to shoot till the threat was down right straight up and
[57:11] like i said my shit jammed and then i went and cleared it you know brought it got it back where
[57:15] it needed to be and i want to shout again and i i hear the jam again on that on the third shot
[57:21] third shot he was down on the ground already yeah and he was trying to get up and that's when he
[57:25] walked over fired a third shot i didn't walk over i didn't use i was already there yeah you know what
[57:30] i mean okay just pop him or whatever because i don't want it to be like that i don't want it to be
[57:33] where i turn my back and i came back the threats already down type stuff like i'm not that guy right
[57:38] or whatever you know what i'm saying it's a situation of where like i said i felt threatened
[57:42] you know buddy i don't know what he had going on you know there's multiple times like i said i
[57:47] can show you to where he even sat there and did it and even the first the time that he sent me
[57:52] the text message with that i feel like i didn't text him because i didn't want to be in a rebuttal
[57:56] back and forth he i believe he texted me back and said man i'm so sorry the information that i got
[58:02] was wrong but you knew you knew that first one was right well yeah yeah i i didn't know the first
[58:09] one there but i'll just i was just there you know you saw you saw it later on when he was down
[58:13] on the ground and it was hit right here yes sir okay yeah so then boom boom shoot twice jammed
[58:20] correct you cleared it do you know what kind of a jam you had just a misfire like he said
[58:28] just like he had mentioned or whatever you know and um i just wanted to just receive because i didn't
[58:33] know about the mag like with the ammo being like loose bouncing around in the truck and it's not
[58:37] flush and it wasn't lined up correctly because there was some ammo there was some rounds that i had
[58:42] full metal jackets then i had hollow you know what i mean so i don't know how it was if i had two hollow
[58:48] first and then one you know full metal after that per se i didn't really matter to me and my gun it was
[58:54] just you know for defense or whatever um but that was basically it like i said once i got that jammed
[59:00] then that's when i wasn't shot and then it jammed again i heard it jam again and that's when i was
[59:04] like oh so did you have to clear it twice no i cleared it once you cleared it once yeah and then
[59:10] that's when i shot correct last shot yes and then jammed you tried to shoot again but it jammed again
[59:15] yes sir so then you had to clear it again yeah and then so what did he was down in that why you
[59:22] cleared your gun totally or what yeah once you like what you just said you said once you said that
[59:27] once that jam hit and i realized it was a jam and then i saw that like i was just like okay the
[59:32] threat is down you know what i mean then that's when i went to go and clear my weapon because of the
[59:40] simple fact that i saw him the other guy in the blue shirt on the phone and i didn't want nobody
[59:45] coming up guns a blazing i wanted to let them know someone had got shot i specifically you know
[59:49] they were the same so i and i was going to lay down on the ground you know you guys got there okay
[59:54] but if leo came up really quick i already had the weapon ready you know already cleared up and
[59:59] safe you know for his safety too right and pushed it away you know what i'm saying and i stepped i
[1:00:04] even stepped away and then that's when he came up to me and i'll just put my hand on my back okay
[1:00:08] you know what i mean yeah surrender to him yeah correct okay um you don't know what kind of ammo you
[1:00:14] you kevin you said you've got a mix yeah i have four metal jackets and then i had uh other ones or whatever
[1:00:21] the hollow points but you know that was been enough for a minute like i said i never had
[1:00:25] the fire upon anybody you know you don't know what you had loaded you know whether it was a hollow
[1:00:29] point or or full metal jacket was the first round or no sir i don't know because i got two different
[1:00:34] mags the other mag actually was in the truck i think on the floor or whatever you know at the time
[1:00:40] you know because normally what i normally do i always no matter what that's why i keep it on the door
[1:00:45] i keep a mag in my left pocket you know what i mean even though it's still loose all around
[1:00:49] whatever it should actually be upright but you don't matter i don't know you don't ever know
[1:00:52] what you have on you and i always always always carry no matter what no any any situation or whatever
[1:00:58] so i don't want to be like thinking like oh you know he running back and going to try to do some
[1:01:02] malicious no i always care you guys want to know you have a concealed carry as well too but he's all
[1:01:08] he knows that's why i said he knows he's specifically safe i know you keep that little pp shoot on you
[1:01:13] at all time because i keep it and i know that buddy's a convicted felon you know what i'm saying
[1:01:18] but i keep it where he can't you know be around it it ain't like i'm putting it on the floorboard or
[1:01:23] put it up here while we smoking you know what i mean it's just on the side right you know what i'm
[1:01:27] saying like my dad's a convicted felon you know i'm not gonna not put my firearm up for my safety
[1:01:33] because you you know what i mean like that's not gonna happen uh what what's your address my address
[1:01:39] and then i don't think they got like street east and all of that um and you got your two kids that
[1:01:51] live with you yeah my daughter love me my daughter's living full-time i'm a full-time father two or three
[1:01:56] three i got three kids total okay um do you know where trash stays the trash stays so when you walk out
[1:02:03] of my door yeah he stays four houses to the right yeah four houses to the right so if i walk out of your
[1:02:16] door turn right one two three four houses down correct and there's not five just make sure but
[1:02:23] i know it's there yeah i don't want to be you know what i'm saying like you know forward and be like
[1:02:27] yeah i counted five like no who's who stays with trash his girlfriend does and the two kids her name
[1:02:34] is nicole she's part owner of uh her last name is torres she's part owner of um the ice fire place too as
[1:02:42] well do uh what is what is i spot is i spot is a gadget place or whatever like they have cop stuff
[1:02:50] there too as well or stuff that you can put like that that that that clock right there for instance
[1:02:55] the 10 o'clock can be a camera okay you know what i'm saying so that's what it is do they got kids
[1:03:01] together they don't have no children together um the niece the little niece you're talking about
[1:03:08] now that's is that nicole's that's his his yes this is she's just over visiting she was just over
[1:03:15] visiting i heard about her the whole weekend that's the reason why i opened my door the way that i did
[1:03:19] because the girl that i wanted to get with she was she was just letting me know stuff like right
[1:03:23] man you know either like with trash situation trash got three kids living down there in one room
[1:03:29] you know what i'm saying but you got a three-bedroom house so she was talking about that as far as like
[1:03:34] why you didn't spread the kids out did the kids live with trash they all live together yes they all
[1:03:39] live together that was the place is nicole's place trask moved in but since he was the man of the house
[1:03:45] they'll let him have the house in a sense you know how many so how many kids does he have living with
[1:03:51] him who trashed yeah the three kids of nicole's oh yeah that's got three kids yeah those are nicole's
[1:03:57] three kids correct yes and then his niece just happened to be over there hanging out or just yeah
[1:04:02] she came to hang out and visit uh but she's been bouncing around between the girl amanda's house then
[1:04:08] over there to his brother which is called speak but his real name is kendall okay um and then you know
[1:04:14] with jakey as well too but then like i said i literally heard them out there arguing or whatever
[1:04:18] as far as like oh i gotta go to work why the would she bring you over here and i'm just like man you
[1:04:23] know what who's you know who the niece's mom is um no i don't know i didn't know her name is keela
[1:04:31] that's all i know okay yeah and i think that just felt like k-e-l-a yeah yeah all i know is i
[1:04:49] nobody was upset this whole weekend though you know because we sat down we talked like every day we
[1:04:53] talked or whatever and he was mad because the uh the baby daddy originally the original the real
[1:04:59] father claimed all of the kids right for taxes okay and he was hot you know i was just like man you
[1:05:06] got to just do your proper work you know just that's all you got to do he's like man we need it i'm like
[1:05:10] i get it you may have needed the money but just calm down and you know go up to ocala and put in a report
[1:05:16] because if y'all have been taking care of these kids which i know you know everybody else knows y'all should
[1:05:21] be receiving that money you know what i'm saying and that's it hey let me uh let me step out for a
[1:05:27] few minutes that's fine one of y'all take me to the restroom though that's gotta pee like literally
[1:05:31] like two seconds piss you know what i'm saying yeah just sit tight let me get you down there take care
[1:05:36] of that real quick okay um i just what happened to your leg again can you tell me what happened to your
[1:05:44] leg again yeah i don't know i don't even know like you know what i'm saying during that that dude didn't
[1:05:47] want to wipe it off with me um you know what i'm saying but we was fighting you know i didn't know
[1:05:52] that i mean we was fighting did you fall in the concrete or no i didn't i didn't know that yeah he
[1:05:57] might have scratched me you guys hit the trucks but i didn't know sir i i kept everything you know like
[1:06:02] nothing on my back you know what i'm saying i didn't touch the ground in any way shape or form
[1:06:06] like he just told me to just keep that on you you know so that you can know that you showed them that you
[1:06:11] had a fault that type of deal it got a little bit of it was more blood but i didn't know that it was there
[1:06:16] when i'm going to go wash my hands you know i'm saying that type of deal but that's all and he
[1:06:20] was just also telling because my crotch i didn't even show the receipt man these are brand new i'm not
[1:06:24] going to see i'm i'm sitting there getting attacked you know what i'm saying and i'm looking at my
[1:06:28] shit real i keep i'm trying to tell you you can look at my truck right now i think you can you can
[1:06:32] hold it about 10 minutes and i'm going to get her in here to come swab your hands real quick i mean
[1:06:36] that's fine or whatever i just i i don't want to get you down there yeah yeah and then i get you down
[1:06:41] there to pee and then she there you go i feel i understand what you're saying i understand what you're saying
[1:06:44] when you're washing me give me a few minutes that's fine yeah i'm sorry about this thing in
[1:06:53] here man it just no it was really hard bro being a single dad for all time because like the scheduling
[1:07:00] is just so bad i got a kid all the way in locala which that was you know i can't say it was a mistake
[1:07:05] it was a mistake was to be able to mom of course that was like a one night stand but i got a kid in
[1:07:11] locala then i got two daughters that go to two different schools you know what i'm saying and trying to
[1:07:15] have them get there in time along with being able to get the time to work and i'm just like damn i
[1:07:20] ain't no time to shower but i did if i would have never asked you to go have a conversation i would
[1:07:24] have had time to shower i didn't want to just have a conversation just to be you know to play the air
[1:07:29] type of deal that's all it was we were right next to each other and we live right next to each other
[1:07:33] right you know there's no reason for us to be on those type of levels of anything when we see each
[1:07:39] other we've been affiliated with each other for years like you know knowing each other for years
[1:07:44] you know like i think should i know travis since he is 15 no 14 years old 14 years old it was you know
[1:07:55] 14 years old because i didn't have my license at the time and uh my cousins did and uh he he and him
[1:08:03] and his boys came and ran a train on a girl from evidence so he dropped the girl back off to us at the
[1:08:09] mcdonald's because remember everybody used to hang out at the mcdonald's at the high school and i'm
[1:08:13] like you better take her home you did what you did and i see the way she looked you know and then after
[1:08:19] that we just became friends with whatever like i said every street i lived on you came to the house
[1:08:23] got a haircut the whole nine it's just crazy how this situation happened truly does so did your your
[1:08:34] current girlfriend live with you at the house at your place no i'm trying to get her to be my girlfriend
[1:08:39] it's not going to happen now no no not a man that you said you were with another girl oh liz yeah
[1:08:43] liz she um she don't she lives in beverly hills okay but she was there though like she was you
[1:08:48] know like she'll come like three four nights or sometimes out of the week you know and hang out
[1:08:51] and chill shit like that but no she didn't live at the house she wanted to though how long you been
[1:08:58] dating her that was four years four years and that was the hardest breakup ever i had to do because
[1:09:05] you know i really wanted to be with the girl but you know like i said it was a hard one all right
[1:09:15] you easy for her you let him sit or stay in power student swallton gsr and also is this your stuff
[1:09:41] yes okay do you have your camera yeah he said you want to go to the bathroom first and i'll do that
[1:09:55] and then we're going to have to take clothing too all right i'm going to be quick he'll he'll be right
[1:10:03] back oh okay okay okay i didn't want to okay i see what you're saying my fault don't talk
[1:10:06] you're good you're good you're good you're good you're good no i get it you got p
[1:10:09] i don't want to take a dump before we came in well i'm like i drank that coffee from papa jay's
[1:10:15] i'm like lord have mercy i'm for real i'm serious i'm not joking around i say time management everything
[1:10:20] man i'll be even trying to wake up before the kids go to school so i can use the bathroom i've always
[1:10:26] had bowel problems always all right you want to walk down here and take a piss for a quick quick
[1:10:32] quick peace that's it i can smell like this so something something we saw was kind of weird
[1:11:02] you said you're coming from ocapa yes sir you drive down before you pass pass calling you come
[1:11:13] off of independence on the 44 you go past calling you go past racetrack and you said you saw you're
[1:11:21] going to cut through yeah especially yeah while i'm turning to the other spots no at what point why
[1:11:29] did you drive through the parking lot of colonial plaza i drove through the parking lot of colonial plaza
[1:11:37] yeah oh that was when i was on the phone with john because i saw nick up there and i was just like
[1:11:43] oh you know what i'm saying like nick is up here already at the barber shop so i don't got to worry
[1:11:47] about going in i told you i literally said i go to papa jay's every morning right to go get my coffee
[1:11:52] then i go and check on the shop because what i wanted to do was i was going to go up there and make
[1:11:57] sure that the ac is perfectly fine which i can show proof of that too as well that we had an ac issue
[1:12:01] within the last two weeks because when summertime kicks that commercial unit don't really do what i'm
[1:12:06] supposed to do right you know what i'm saying and also too i was going to go up there and go and
[1:12:10] pick up when i got done cutting my son's hair when she got a fresh ass haircut he had chipped that he
[1:12:16] spilled all over my barber's hair and i didn't want to hear chris bitching you know what i'm saying from
[1:12:21] before yeah from the day before i literally i think i've cut his hair like literally that the day before
[1:12:26] okay you know i gave him a fresh fade and then that's when i left and i went out there and i was just going
[1:12:31] home that was it so you drove through colonial plaza yeah he didn't stop and and go inside the
[1:12:39] barber shop or anything no he saw nick was not i saw nick was already there and i know once they're
[1:12:44] there that they're gonna be like oh fine you know what skinny had his son here or whatever you know
[1:12:48] what i mean and just did it that way so then now you're heading back home you're going to cut through
[1:12:52] starbucks yeah correct see him there i ain't gonna lie i was about to go through don pass because i was just
[1:12:59] like oh you know i want to see my ex britney right you know what i mean i'm like fuck you know that
[1:13:05] girl aggravated as hell but i was just like no i'm gonna just go through starbucks you know i literally
[1:13:09] do that same route every day i even had a golf cart i drive through there with um david elias saw me one
[1:13:15] day he said man you need to go get one of them low speed things and i'm like what is that he's like a
[1:13:19] tag because you can't be driving it like you literally i saw you leave from your house drive through
[1:13:23] starbucks and he drove up the sidewalk and i'm like i don't want to put on the road i only can go 20 miles an hour
[1:13:30] and he was just like yeah but you still i was like all right i understand so i just stopped driving
[1:13:34] that thing you know what i mean that's literally my same route every day i got like i told him my life
[1:13:40] is so tight with having those girls full time you know that i do the same thing right every single day
[1:13:47] um i don't know if anybody has told you yet you know trask is dead yeah they they had him a lot a
[1:14:07] little bit um but he did not make it at the hospital i don't know if anybody had told you
[1:14:14] that you know leo was in here trying to just you know he comfort me and stuff whatever he understood
[1:14:19] the story and stuff like that but that's not something i wanted to have happen today and you
[1:14:27] know they're just really sad because like i said that's literally my friend you know that's it and
[1:14:32] i'm just trying to you know i was just trying to get him to understand stuff like i told you a guy
[1:14:36] before there's a lot of black guys that grow up in life with a lot of anger in their body and don't
[1:14:41] want to listen they just automatically draw to thinking that type of thing and saying that you
[1:14:46] know that's why i want to show proof to you to let you know that every single time there's an argument
[1:14:50] on any type of instance that's immediately the first thing that he wants to do is to threaten
[1:14:55] you know and i'm like that's just weird i'm trying to have a civil conversation with you right you
[1:15:00] see what i'm saying like i'm not here to be no running up on no game person or running up on
[1:15:06] somebody or whatever you know like in that manner doing a drive-by or whatever or looking for an
[1:15:10] altercation i got two little girls man and a son that i'm just not brought into this world you know
[1:15:16] the last thing that i want to be sitting there doing is be trying to sit there and get into a fight
[1:15:20] my main thing was the safety of them that's why i was trying to get clarification so that he can
[1:15:25] possibly even say if you knew who the person was that was speaking on that stuff then say something
[1:15:30] i even you can go to my house i literally i literally barricaded my house so that if it were
[1:15:35] to get shot that i know that i can roll off the bed no joke i put my truck in front of my window
[1:15:41] you know what i'm saying because you ain't gonna shoot through an engine block if anything
[1:15:44] or whatever and my back door to where my door to stay at i even put a big ass spotlight back there
[1:15:50] so if somebody you know there's sometimes if you see people see a spotlight they're not going to go
[1:15:54] there right but that's just it you know what i'm saying it's i don't know a vindictive
[1:15:58] meaning like oh you know you need to go and do this hell no you know what i'm saying and i know
[1:16:04] nick norton's the one that's going through that paperwork right now he knows me he sees me every
[1:16:07] single day when he comes to my barbershop you know what i'm saying he knows that i carry while being
[1:16:12] in my barbershop you know what i'm saying because he's seen it multiple times and never has one time
[1:16:16] have he ever said skinny cover of your weapon you know what i'm saying or any of that nature he don't
[1:16:21] feel threatened he'll be turned around feeling no type of weight no i'm just this is just mind-blowing
[1:16:26] that's why i said this situation should have never even happened if we just would have a
[1:16:30] civil conversation and you're not talking about threatening and hurting and taking me away from
[1:16:35] my family right you know what i'm saying that's self-defense flat-out clear date or whatever you
[1:16:39] know and it sucks because like i told the leo beforehand being in the military prior service or
[1:16:44] whatever i know how this shit works out to where you got to break down every single detail but at the
[1:16:49] end of the day you know what i'm saying if you were to put yourself there in the same shoes and you
[1:16:53] said him and threatened multiple times and you got the proof to even show this you know what i'm
[1:16:58] saying and then you're over here just trying to just have a civil conversation and now this just
[1:17:02] happened it it's clear today stand your ground protect yourself you know what i'm saying that's
[1:17:09] just it and i'm telling you i ain't no vindictive i feel bad i honestly swear to god i really honestly
[1:17:14] do you know what i'm saying no joke there's no there's no bone in my body that's just sitting there
[1:17:19] saying yay this is happening i'm stressed out even more now because now i can't go back to my home
[1:17:26] you know what i'm saying i don't know what's going on with the situation you know what i'm saying i'm
[1:17:30] worried about my daughter she graduated today she ain't gonna walk across the stage knowing that her
[1:17:34] dad is in this situation you know i'm saying and i even saw like just a glimpse my kid's mom even knows
[1:17:40] about it out here and she's rushing back from tennessee to try to make sure she can get to my son
[1:17:44] which is in ocala you know so that's what i'm trying to i got a lot of going on in my head
[1:17:50] which i only i put the kids first man like i said everything anything in this world i put my kids
[1:17:56] first and their safety didn't you know that is a lot to me you know i'm saying when it comes down to
[1:18:00] it and that's all i really was just trying to make sure that hey we was on the same page or whatever
[1:18:06] like hey man you know i should be able to go out there and go barbecue or whatever and not have to
[1:18:09] be looking over my shoulder or even getting on zillow to try to find a new place to live you see what i'm
[1:18:14] saying because i just want to be happy all i wanted to do is just date the girl you know what i'm saying
[1:18:20] that's it hey do you know you don't know john's number do you uh john is and you may have to call
[1:18:35] him or you have to text him because john's from new york and he ain't probably gonna answer but i mean
[1:18:40] if you said you know me oh that might yeah yeah he should answer because i saw him text me too as well
[1:18:46] sit tight for me for a few more um what's that stuff that's this is your wall right yes sir you can check
[1:19:00] all that i don't need that pin or nothing bro i'm gonna stick it in this other room over here yeah
[1:19:04] you're fine i'm not stressing none of that no you can come on bud oh yeah she's gonna take photos
[1:19:28] we'll do them right here oh yep what are these photos for what's that what's the photos for just would
[1:19:40] document everything as as we find it at the scene so we do uh just exactly how you were just exactly how
[1:19:48] everything was okay i just don't want to be put on facebook guys at the time no no no that's this is
[1:19:53] this is not going on facebook okay not a chance but okay uh i am going to take a close up but i got
[1:20:04] to change you're gonna look good on these we'll go back out of the bathroom okay and the reason i'm doing
[1:20:13] that well out of the wheels you know work with you guys so false oh yeah yeah rj cobb yeah brad latin
[1:24:11] rj ain't doing good brad latin doing good i think he was a basketball coach for citrus right one year
[1:24:18] yeah for one year he did it for one year and then augustine which is my uh classmate um he's now the head
[1:24:25] coach of citrus brad augustine yeah yeah did you play any sports there though i ran track and i played
[1:24:35] soccer okay so you was with um you knew matt richards then yeah yeah matt richards yeah matt richards let's
[1:24:41] show yourself and then uh chad richie i don't know i don't know if chad was a i think chad played for
[1:24:47] a little while chad was a soccer player too yeah yeah but that's the only one that i knew uh right now
[1:24:52] i'm trying to think of i can't remember his dad's name um he's like a sophomore when i was a senior
[1:24:59] he's a tall tall black kid he was fast as hell he was awesome um we ran four by four and
[1:25:08] four hundred together so you as a senior year i cannot remember his name to save my life
[1:25:15] wasn't andrew frank i was good friends with him for a long time i can't believe i can't remember
[1:25:19] and that's the only sport he played i think he played football he's probably a little younger than
[1:25:28] you maybe same grade he was awesome he was awesome yeah we didn't have no too many athletes that i was
[1:25:34] on i ain't gonna lie but i was really the only athlete in my class because i did all the sports even
[1:25:39] track and field um and then out you know i've been i was true the only brother on the team uh you knew
[1:25:47] nick del judas yeah the one that went and played baseball he's a leo now he's down in miami is he
[1:25:53] really yeah he's down in miami but he off the road though now he does like training stuff okay so i got
[1:25:58] his brother here too yeah he cool people he cool people man but just like this situation right here
[1:26:06] he stole my high school sweetheart you know what i'm saying and we still living our lives
[1:26:12] that's why i try to say bro it's just crazy you know what i'm saying like we still living our lives
[1:26:18] and i mean like we i literally walked into a party and seen him i'm just like damn cousin like that
[1:26:24] she's like well i want to go i'm like once i saw that at high school my for the rest of my life i was
[1:26:29] just like you know if a female does it to me oh well you just push on and move on about your
[1:26:34] very old life you know what i'm saying like it sucks though it really does suck especially when
[1:26:39] it happens to the guys or whatever you know guys we be in our feelings for like like we was in
[1:26:44] covid or something you know we got to die but a female ain't nothing yeah i mean i ain't gonna lie
[1:26:51] i miss them boys though but i should have left though the same time that they left the only real
[1:26:55] reason why i came back is just like i told him is because my daughters are here i was really really
[1:27:01] successful in ocala even though i was only a few minutes away but i didn't want my daughter being
[1:27:06] raised over in ocala you know with all the way the advances of them boys because like my clients
[1:27:11] would come here 13 14 years old and be like man you know i hit this one this week i'm like oh hell
[1:27:17] nah even if you hit my daughter you know what i'm saying we don't want that though like if you
[1:27:21] let me do stuff like that you know you got to be getting on but yeah yeah i just moved down here
[1:27:28] and you were cutting hair in ocala too yeah i was cutting hair i worked at um hair junkies and um flash cuts
[1:27:36] which is really two really really good barbershops way better than my barbershop even though i mean i'm
[1:27:40] the owner i can probably i can say that for real though because they got more traffic the people
[1:27:46] willing to pay more you know i'm saying they got events going on in ocala too not like how citrus county
[1:27:52] is we have fucking you know goes by 1200 driftwood at an art festival you know like they got real events
[1:28:00] going on so the guys have to be cleaned up more and then so the kids as well too so i was having
[1:28:05] way better business you know and atmosphere was pretty cool too because he had a big ass like 300
[1:28:12] gallon uh fish tank or whatever you know in there and like if you came and got so many haircuts he'll
[1:28:17] put you into the winning of you winning one of those fish i ain't a lot of management a lot of money
[1:28:21] man spent like two thousand dollars on a fish you know but he was the business owner he had seven no he had
[1:28:27] 10 barbers working for him so the man's grossing like 30 000 a month you know wow killing it you
[1:28:33] know i'm saying killing it it's good money in barbering it really is you know truly is what's
[1:28:37] a haircut cost to your shop uh my haircut for when you walk in is 25 um i do give the leos the five
[1:28:45] dollars off because i'm the military i do the discount but uh 9 10 people pay 40 for the cut and
[1:28:52] then now i just recently went up to 30 for my haircut just because of inflation you know what
[1:28:58] i'm saying and i i really don't have no second income so i just like i went up to five dollars
[1:29:02] there um so it's not too bad it's a medium price but i don't want to go no higher than that because
[1:29:09] not a lot of people are going to be able to afford that you know what i mean and then who the hell
[1:29:12] would be looking at like man i got to eat or i'm gonna go get this haircut you know what i'm saying
[1:29:16] like it's not a lot of people doing that type of stuff or whatever so it's hard to keep a business
[1:29:21] here it really is man i'm not gonna lie to you i've been trying to do a whole nine they don't
[1:29:25] want me to try to go political and i'm not doing that man um yes you want to talk about that yes i
[1:29:35] thought you got it it's on his knee yeah i mean if you think about it if you want here to stay like
[1:29:52] nice and short like i get mine paid it's been probably been two weeks but i'm like it's 25 bucks
[1:29:59] correct and so like where do you go to get paid i've been going to that guy in time square forever
[1:30:04] in town barber shop oh yeah yeah yeah i've been getting my hair cut there since i was a little
[1:30:08] kid yeah that's um damn the little italian guy yeah yeah yeah that's it i'm just waiting on swing
[1:30:15] if you let him know um thank you man yeah i've been going there a long time but i mean if you think
[1:30:22] about like after tip and everything you'd be spending 60 or 80 a month just to keep your hair
[1:30:28] looking around oh yeah absolutely it grows a lot like we was going to stay along the lines of a low price
[1:30:32] with like timber room even fred even came to me and he was just like man your name carries wait
[1:30:38] every barbershop i go in and he's like skinny skinny i was like i know i've been there for a long
[1:30:42] time you know what i'm saying i try to help out everybody and i'm also involved in the community too
[1:30:47] so he was like well why don't you make a shop like how i had it and i'll help you and i'm like
[1:30:54] i don't want no other partners because i already got two other partners now and i really don't want to
[1:30:59] be there no more i actually wanted to open up my barbershop in the um into walmart before back to
[1:31:06] school you know yeah because you're gonna get all of those kids there but once people see that that
[1:31:10] barber's up there you're cutting the cost of having to advertise because walmart's already doing that
[1:31:15] for you for the foot traffic you see what i'm saying that's gonna save us a lot of money there uh
[1:31:20] walmart actually cares about their stores and making sure that the ac stayed up the par things of that
[1:31:25] nature you know they got backup generators we don't get that love of where we're at i'm paying
[1:31:29] almost a thousand dollars a month and the ac recently went out um like i was telling him you
[1:31:34] know about what two weeks ago man well yeah about two weeks ago man was so hot in that place and guess
[1:31:41] what they tell us you got to give us a thousand dollars before we can even call or have someone fix it
[1:31:48] so that's another reason why i kind of it is beneficial that i do have business owners that said because you
[1:31:53] know it was only three hundred and thirty three dollars out of my pocket but why do i have to
[1:31:57] pay you a thousand dollars to go get it fixed when they may have just been something super simple you
[1:32:02] know and it ended up being something simple because i had to go back the next day um because like i
[1:32:09] said my other barbers they they they have their life going on but like i really do love cutting hair
[1:32:13] and i care about my business so i showed up the next day at 6 a.m um and i'm over there hanging out
[1:32:19] i apologize like i always do but not at 6 a.m though i go around like 7 30 8 o'clock but 6 a.m
[1:32:24] i'm hanging out they're like what the hell are you doing here i said i'm here to check and make
[1:32:27] sure my ac is working right or whatever you know and also that the guy can come in and out if he
[1:32:31] has to set something you know what i'm saying to see if it's working he was just like all right
[1:32:35] i kid you not man the guy goes up there and comes right back down off the ladder guess what he says
[1:32:41] something was just lodging in your family and we can't get the money back and i was like are you
[1:32:47] serious he's like yeah this is a 250 call for me to come out and then i i man to be real with you
[1:32:54] the fan didn't need to be replaced but i just replaced it anyway i was like so did you charge
[1:32:57] me for that he's like no i didn't charge it for the fan but i just want to let you know i said damn
[1:33:01] so by you going up there and just seeing something was lodged in there and you're moving now the fan's
[1:33:06] back working again because it was a humming noise he said he he was humming up top anyway that cost 12 50.
[1:33:14] i was like damn so i want to try to switch up man hopefully hopefully you know like this thing is
[1:33:19] you know whatever um over which i keep going on with my life and that's really what i want to do i
[1:33:26] want to get this barbershop here and then after i get this one successful then i was going to go to
[1:33:30] ocala and do the same thing in ocala and i think the village no villages don't have a walmart um
[1:33:36] is there a place open in walmart yeah right by the right by um the glasses spot right by the glass
[1:33:44] spot i scanned the code the other day and they told me all i got to do is put all my information in db
[1:33:48] and then all that and then they're going to run back and see numbers and they may let us go in there
[1:33:53] but my numbers what's the rent cost in there now that i don't know if i told myself i'm not going
[1:33:59] past 2 000. i can go to that because it's an 800 square foot building but i don't need seating for
[1:34:05] customers so i'm just going to maximize the whole spot foot full of barbers you see what i'm saying
[1:34:11] or even you know a hairstyle with the braid here and then i just charge a commission i've been afforded
[1:34:16] you know because if i get eight barbers or even eight stylists you know and i charge them because
[1:34:22] right now my barbers paying fifty dollars a day but they will be getting taken almost on the average
[1:34:27] of a hundred dollars or more a day because of the commission now they're going to leave with a good
[1:34:31] chunk of change you know because i'm going to tap it off like once you hit a certain number
[1:34:35] i don't need no more money from you that's just being greedy you know what i'm saying because
[1:34:38] like i said i've been doing it for 20 something plus years i've seen barbershop owners push away
[1:34:43] their clients because of being greedy you know so hopefully it works out you know what i'm saying
[1:34:49] hopefully is it would it be hard to find that many barbers to come no because i swear every time like
[1:34:55] i go to get my haircuts like there's nobody in there yeah i had two people correct it is but i'm
[1:35:00] gonna keep it real with you man they don't take care of their barbers see me i'm gonna make sure i get a
[1:35:03] schedule you know what i mean and i'm gonna let people know their potential earnings because i
[1:35:08] can do that for them or whatever and they're gonna be like and i'm like no i'm being serious work for
[1:35:12] me just work for me for one day work for me for a week and you'll see how hard i go you know to get
[1:35:17] people in you know what i'm saying because like i said i'm not political in any way shape or form but
[1:35:22] we ain't even touch bases i got i got the fire department uh the police station or whatever and a lot
[1:35:27] of people been wanting me to like have our spot be like deemed only for first responders and stuff
[1:35:34] but like i said what about the d boys and stuff like they pay money too you know i'm saying like
[1:35:38] we got to get it for everybody and whatever you know and i don't want to just be on that but i've
[1:35:43] had a lot of big name people come in that pendergrass came and talked to me as well too
[1:35:47] you know but i don't want to be a part of all of that that politics yeah you know what i'm saying
[1:35:52] because it's just a scary thing like even with buddy right now he got to deal with it right now
[1:35:57] with the whole you know the hero thing and i'm just like oh lord you know i can imagine what he got
[1:36:03] to go and deal with on a regular basis that's why i never wanted to be a boss like like you know
[1:36:09] having that much power over anybody even when i was in the service i'm like no you good i'm like no i
[1:36:17] i suck i don't even know how to shoot you know what i'm saying i'm like i'm serious i don't even
[1:36:22] i don't even know how to shoot they're like all right we'll keep you here because if you try to be
[1:36:25] that guy you know what i'm saying like the leo that was here earlier just like he was telling me he's
[1:36:31] like man i was going to qualify and they just kept moving me up and up and up and up and up and
[1:36:34] anything you know i was on the same level as chris kyle as a sniper i was like nah when you're in the
[1:36:40] military you don't want to be that guy you know you just want to do your job and get out that's all you
[1:36:45] want to do straight up so do you go overseas no no overseas no overseas thank god i had orders to go
[1:36:53] but i was smart i got the hell out of that military i'm serious man my first six months of being in
[1:36:58] there i'm like damn how am i supposed to pay bills you know my first check was 1200 first check i said
[1:37:05] i was here for 30 days and i got 1200 bucks i'm like i don't know bro i don't think i can stay in
[1:37:13] here you know what i'm saying so i got out of the military and right after i got out of the
[1:37:17] military i started making a lot lot more money you know i worked at closet made in locala uh i did
[1:37:23] apply for e1 but i turned that job down because they told me how stringy which that job was so i was
[1:37:29] like i'm not doing that and that's basically yeah i've been a barber ever since that's when you got
[1:37:36] to come here yeah yeah i got in the barber ever since because it's quick money you know like you do the
[1:37:41] math or whatever you know as far as you know you working right you're you have to get paid by the
[1:37:46] hour you know what i'm saying if i can get so if i can go and get so many units to come through this
[1:37:51] door you know i may get to cut three four heads in an hour you know and not rushing because some
[1:37:57] hair because it's simple you know what i'm saying and if i can do that i can potentially make anywhere
[1:38:02] from a hundred dollars an hour forty dollars an hour thirty dollars an hour it all depends on how i
[1:38:06] want to be you know because i'm not going to show some days like monday for instance of last week
[1:38:12] i went in to work from nine to three and i'm gone they're like why you left i made 400 bucks i'm
[1:38:19] going i'm not we have like i don't know i think i did the census like almost 300 000 or something
[1:38:24] that didn't move to citrus county now or whatever you can't cut everybody so i'm going to cut what i
[1:38:29] can and i'm going to leave and go by my mary away you know and a lot of times like my boy john he
[1:38:34] like to be up there all day like john greedy though but i'm like i can't do it i used to be
[1:38:39] like that but i ain't greedy i don't want enough to get by you know what i'm saying go home smoke
[1:38:44] hang out my kids throw the softball around and that's basically it i just recently got some soft
[1:38:50] balls matter of fact for my daughter um i got 50 of them now tell me how up city county is with this
[1:38:57] i messaged the lady because it's on the word of mouth whatever 75 dollars you want to follow these balls
[1:39:02] now some of them were new some of them isn't but at the same token it's a best offer so my best offer
[1:39:09] was 50 dollars i shot you the 50 deal you didn't want the 50 for me and i told him i come pick them
[1:39:15] up right now now you didn't have these balls online for six days you know so i said okay i'm gonna shoot
[1:39:21] it at you again here's the 50 bucks and then i said you know what let me get my employee to message this
[1:39:27] lady really quick soon as mick messaged the lady and said i come pick them up right now for 50 bucks
[1:39:33] that's all i have clear as day yeah here's the address citrus springs i said this is just messed up
[1:39:40] i got a lot of bills like that though even my lawnmower i did the same thing i had my girlfriend
[1:39:44] going message the lady because she they see me as being all aggressive like damn you just trying to
[1:39:48] screw me over but then whenever she messaged she was like oh i got 900 bucks or whatever the guy was like
[1:39:55] yeah just come over i'm like yeah my whole my whole house is off of that marketplace or whatever man
[1:40:01] like my front is just from the villages all of my front is just from the villages um and then yeah i'm
[1:40:09] gonna like little scrap that's from here and there right now i'm looking for a washing dryer for that
[1:40:13] actual girl that's what i was trying to do today to be honest because she said she needed one so i was
[1:40:19] like she that'd be the icing on the cake you get her in the nose hand i was like we were going to get the
[1:40:23] washing machine and i'll just message everybody too and i'm like fuck you working hard to get this
[1:40:31] girl man i'm telling you she's worth it bro she really is that's why i was trying to let them know
[1:40:35] like i'm not here to try to be a father to your your boy's son you know but everybody in this world
[1:40:42] need love or whatever you know and i'm looking for that girl to be a mother to my kids but if she can
[1:40:46] step up and play that role then that's fine but let's at least be on the same page the co-parent
[1:40:51] then at the same token you should respect it coming from me being the man that i am knowing
[1:40:57] that i'm out there doing the stuff that i'm doing i work every day i'm out in the front of that yard
[1:41:02] or whatever on silverwood throwing softballs up and down that goddamn street i ain't got time
[1:41:06] my whole house is clean but if you go to my room i'm getting that laundry and you take that laundry
[1:41:14] you know what i'm saying like you need something for a week i might fold some stuff up real quick but
[1:41:18] everything else is spotless though it's just my part of it because like i said i want them to have
[1:41:22] a good life or whatever you know my daughters i've i grew up poor man my whole life like i'm
[1:41:27] talking about dirt poor like i'll probably be this outfit right here when i was in school
[1:41:32] when you was in school i'd have been wearing this for like four days you know what i'm saying and
[1:41:35] then i'll try to like go get that same shirt maybe wear it with a different pair of pins
[1:41:40] you know what i mean so that's why i appreciate a lot of things whatever in life and that's why i'm the
[1:41:44] way i am because i'm you know what they would say i guess that's humble you know because i got gucci
[1:41:50] shoes now you know i'm saying name brand designers and all of that stuff but i don't never flaunt it
[1:41:56] in no one's face you know i just bought it to see maybe if like you know it was gonna change the way
[1:42:02] i am as a person like in a better way but not all the deal just bring me more pussy you know what i'm
[1:42:06] saying oh my god he has gucci shoes she gonna spend money on me bullshit you ain't my daughters i don't
[1:42:12] spend no money on you i'm being so serious but that girl is different because the story with that
[1:42:20] is like all right so i gotta tell you so when i was with my first kid's mother she had cheated on me
[1:42:26] so you know we still stayed in the same house it was cordial but it was my time to leave because i
[1:42:30] didn't want to be i'm like i'm watching you coming in the house i know you didn't want to got something
[1:42:34] from some other dude i'm playing the game i'm just like man i said you know what seven months that went
[1:42:38] by your mom living here i was just like you're good i know that you financially if you're all right
[1:42:43] i'm gonna just leave well i met that girl in school and i was like you know hey you're so nice and
[1:42:49] there's over in ocala and i'm like man let's just chit chat so we started talking and i went and took
[1:42:54] her out on a date and i went to go on you know like everything went perfectly fine but i was so anxious
[1:43:00] and nervous bro i couldn't do nothing nothing when i say nothing bro i'm telling you i went to that
[1:43:07] girl house four days in a row nothing i was i even called the doctor i said hey man we need something
[1:43:13] going on with blood pressure or something's wrong bro because i can't even perform and he's like what
[1:43:19] so i had told myself whatever you know what since i can't give her that i'm gonna just let it be you
[1:43:24] know then i met up with her again and this time she had her own house all of this stuff whatever you
[1:43:31] know same thing with me i'm living in sugarville so i had a little bit of a financial confidence you
[1:43:36] know because i'm in a way better house and all of this stuff but again it happened again the same
[1:43:42] girl same as that chick now this is the first time we chit chatted we went to the movie theater bowling
[1:43:48] out there and stuff like that i waited four years later maybe five and saw her again because she
[1:43:54] liked to talk to chris river dudes i don't never be out there affiliated i'm an emerness you know what
[1:43:59] i mean so like she finally came and got a haircut and my mom was like oh you know he's a good looking
[1:44:04] guy blah blah you should go and talk to him or whatever you know and then that's when we end up
[1:44:09] chit chatting but in the back of my mind like i said paying attention to my surroundings i said hold
[1:44:15] on isn't your baby daddy in prison she's like yeah and i was like when does he come home or whatever
[1:44:21] she was like oh very soon and then i was like what is this and she was just like oh i'm just holding
[1:44:26] his money because i mean that boy had a shit ton of money you know what i'm saying y'all not arrested
[1:44:31] buddy already multiple times um but i was like ugh i don't think i can compete with him and i don't
[1:44:37] want to be around when that situation happens so i got my girls and i left that was like a month and
[1:44:43] a half of us doing that you know and she was mad after that she was like why didn't you listen to
[1:44:48] me and get me pregnant or you know wipe me up and i'm like cuz i didn't want to deal with that
[1:44:53] shit now look at what's going on this dude now he's notably talking and he literally had no problem
[1:44:59] sending the threat over you know so i was like damn but she's a good one though she really is a
[1:45:04] good woman you know i'm saying it's just the people that she chooses to be with her the bad ones and
[1:45:10] that's why i don't understand how i even got into it because i'm like going down the line i'm like
[1:45:13] naming all these different dudes and i'm like he got felonies i don't this dude sags his pants all the
[1:45:19] time i don't this dude you know i'm saying selling drugs i don't like i'm with my kids this kid's never
[1:45:25] with his kids and i'm always with my kids you know what i'm saying he's just like it was just
[1:45:30] ongoing or whatever i just like i don't know how to feel how to fit into it but i think really now
[1:45:35] that i logically think about it what her fancy is that she do want me to like give her the business
[1:45:40] you know i'm saying that all said and done and i'm like uh i want more than that i do i want more but
[1:45:49] it ain't gonna happen are you married yet yep i'm settled down i've been settled down you married somebody
[1:46:01] from citrus uh no they're a military girl they're all over the place that's good they ended up here
[1:46:08] late but um yeah that's good yes sir kids too oh yeah you know how it goes oh yeah man by far
[1:46:18] i tried to only have two girls man my daughter was a 14 and 11 but i had that dog on one night stand and
[1:46:25] next thing you know it was a wrap that's how it goes i'm like damn and i blame my ex ever since that
[1:46:33] she was like why are you blaming me out that shit you know i had a high sex drive i was just trying
[1:46:37] to get some and next thing you know now i'm stuck between i'm on 1300 a month child support oh are you
[1:46:43] really yeah i really am for both of them or one just no my daughter's my daughter's live with me i'm
[1:46:49] i'm dad like you know i'm the only oh so you have two different yeah so i got a puerto rican baby mama
[1:46:55] that lives here but that's the two two girls that's the ones i'm more or less worried about because
[1:47:01] obviously they were stuck in the house um and then i got a son that's in ocala and his mother is uh
[1:47:07] um she what the hell is she she's a banker bank teller you know what i'm saying like that but
[1:47:15] yeah she put me on child support because i didn't want to date her she was like oh well you you won't
[1:47:21] go and make this girl and i you know basically what i think what it was was whenever i first started
[1:47:26] talking to her and i'm like i showed her like how a real man can actually be you know taking her on dates
[1:47:31] you know i'm saying showing her shivery's not dead treating her daughter the correct way type
[1:47:36] stuff and then also too i've been able to afford to both do different things she's like she fell in
[1:47:41] love instantly but i was just being me they just come natural just like with this last girl as well
[1:47:46] too the same thing with her she's like why do you do so much i said because i love hard and i like to
[1:47:50] give i prefer to give people before i give myself you know what i mean and she's just like i get that
[1:47:55] but you also got to take care of stuff but anyway yeah this chick right here bruh she went to see
[1:48:00] them finances it's straight to court she had my baby statement before i had my baby statement
[1:48:07] and i don't even know how that even happened i'm just like you know but yeah it's been a struggle
[1:48:12] ever since man because now i'm gonna they're trying to put my child support up more um because of
[1:48:18] inflation because the judge says or not judge but the lawyer says he has a good argument just because
[1:48:24] of the inflation because now the daycare went up fifty dollars food costs went up and also stuff
[1:48:31] cost goes up and i'm like well why don't you just do her part my son would be like i said growing up
[1:48:36] poor and only having one pair of shoes he got 18 he's only two years old he don't need all those
[1:48:42] shoes you know what i'm saying i made it you know and personally i feel like the kids should struggle
[1:48:46] a little bit anyway so that way they can be a little bit more accepting and appreciable things you
[1:48:50] know what i mean right rather than just being a spoiled brat but i ain't nothing i can do about
[1:48:55] it you know she got a brand new house as well too what does she do for a living she's the bank teller
[1:49:01] i'm paying for it i calculate it every year i give her 20 for lisbon he's about to be three years old
[1:49:07] and 26 25 000 a year i'm telling you bro and i say i'll be tough like i'm not joking when i say this
[1:49:14] it'd be it really it's really hard some days for me you know it truly honestly is that's why i would
[1:49:24] be down there hanging out with buddy smoking sometimes shoot he buy something i buy something
[1:49:28] we just buy every week because you know that's expensive you know man and 50 a day you do it man
[1:49:34] that's a lot of money you know so i'm just like man is that what it costs yeah it's depending now did
[1:49:41] you go get your card i got my card yes i want to get that yeah that's crazy expensive yeah it is
[1:49:46] that's why i got that little pin i just i heard it's strong though it is but just one little tap
[1:49:52] is like equivalent to almost a half a blunt you know of a cigar so you just mellow that's all it is
[1:49:58] like mine is just to be mellow i don't be on that trying to be like looking like i'm taking 30 perks
[1:50:02] or something and sleeping in the corner does it help you sleep at night oh yeah by far to sleep at night
[1:50:08] even like with back pain like i got one strand which is not in that pen i don't even know what
[1:50:12] strain that one is but it literally only fights pain so like you can smoke you can sit there hold
[1:50:17] it in you ain't gonna get high but your body you know you want it to be like almost a numb type of
[1:50:23] thing or whatever and you just relax so at nighttime before i go to sleep i do smoke i just you know
[1:50:28] what i'm saying go on my little knot that i got back there i smoke even a joint uh uh or the bong or a
[1:50:34] whole blunt and you're good to go you still wake up you don't hear stuff you know what i'm saying
[1:50:39] and just you just my thing is what me my mind runs so much that's the reason why i think i smoke
[1:50:46] because i think about a lot of things like i said i think about my daughter today when this is your
[1:50:50] situation or whatever just trying to figure stuff out so it's kind of it's kind of difficult you good
[1:51:10] anything i'll take a leap but you're good just waiting on you five minutes got you hold it for
[1:51:18] five i don't know we made him hold it for like fifteen yeah yeah she made me hold it for almost
[1:51:24] an hour no like dang it's all right though it's sad to say but i'm gonna tell you it's a job and
[1:51:37] the truth lord if he let me make it out of this and i know i didn't do nothing wrong i'm never
[1:51:42] touching a fucking gun again and this is coming from a veteran's mouth it's truly truly crazy
[1:51:54] what did you say i know about anything else um amanda amanda nelson yes what was your uh
[1:52:36] your baby mama lived local yeah no i got one that lived local with your son oh my son that's shelby
[1:52:44] shelby yeah maddox sounds familiar yeah she stayed here for a little bit um but she left
[1:52:52] though she only stayed for like a little bit because i let her stay with me for probably maddox with t's
[1:52:58] yeah two uh two t's but the girl that you dated for four years oh that's liz liz what rios well
[1:53:09] is it elizabeth or liz uh it's just liz she's mexican rios r-i-o-s yeah and you have so you have a
[1:53:20] kid with liz no no yes but you have one with shelby correct one boys with shelby you know two girls
[1:53:27] are with michelle michelle was well obviously it wasn't on the one night stand then no michelle
[1:53:35] i almost married michelle yeah we were together for eight years and then she had cheated on me um
[1:53:44] i started letting her go to the gym and she just cheated on me just literally one day and i'm like
[1:53:50] that's crazy i let you know like not let you go to the gym i would say that was just like you know
[1:53:54] like oh go to the gym work out because you're feeling down and out about yourself so go work out i work
[1:53:59] out in the sun every day so i'm never gonna get fat you know what i mean so just do it and long
[1:54:05] story she just sat there and just you know had a whole i'm talking about for almost like three months
[1:54:09] i didn't even know it you know from something she had in the gym yeah and then the guy slipped up and
[1:54:15] called my called the phone one day and i was just like you know like i said i pick up numbers quick
[1:54:20] so i saw it and i'm like i'm gonna call this dude back and see what it is and sure enough it was the
[1:54:24] guy he explained the whole nine to me so i left her alone yeah i'm a long relationship kind of guy i just
[1:54:32] girls just gravitate to me because like i said they see that i'll be taking care of my daughters
[1:54:36] they see the money you know and they think that i'm just that guy that wants to do that but i
[1:54:41] really don't i'll be just trying to find girls who you know like to love and care about and only have
[1:54:46] one person to worry about you know what i mean because it's too much to be oh you got this life
[1:54:51] you're living with this girl but in this life you got going with this girl like no i like to know i'm
[1:54:56] good like right now and it's sad to say but my phone probably blowing up from every female
[1:55:02] i've never talked to you because i've already seen it and i'm just like damn
[1:55:20] i think you got no ticket you're good yeah sure we just gotta get um get you a ride i'm sorry about
[1:55:40] the clothes they kind of get just some generic clothes for situations like this so it's not
[1:55:47] really kind of kind of neutral neutral clothing get you right out of here oh okay so we're about
[1:55:57] wrapped up so what do i do from this if you don't mind me asking ah well because i can't even it's
[1:56:08] just so saddened to me i can't even how long how long how long you know i'm trash we've been friends
[1:56:13] for years man i know a brother and i'm just like you know and the sad thing is this is where i'm home
[1:56:25] this is my home you know and then now now it's going to be dangerous for me you know because like i told
[1:56:34] the guy before that the situation that happened with tyler i knew tyler true hopkins yeah and david
[1:56:40] and stuff like that and i told david i was like bro you know i told his kid's mom i said he better not
[1:56:46] come back here after i'm 25 years is up you know like the streets is like real and people don't play
[1:56:52] and it just sucks but the thing is is my situation is i feel like everybody's gonna be screaming at me
[1:57:00] is if i i've done something you know i'm saying out of the way wrong you know i don't know man i
[1:57:05] think that's so much going on in my head i really honestly don't know what to do and then what they
[1:57:12] got to do they do they tow my vehicle or anything or so i do have to tow your vehicle okay um we're gonna
[1:57:21] have to do a search warrant on your car so we had to tow it down they're they're writing up the search
[1:57:26] warrant now so okay it won't take that long um but so we had to tow it down to operations our
[1:57:34] office down in neverness okay so they're going to put it in a garage down there so okay thank god
[1:57:39] yeah i was about to say in my back or whatever it did my kids shoes and stuff and all that stuff
[1:57:43] yeah no we're going to take it they're going to put it in a garage down there so that way it's out of
[1:57:48] the public eye it's out of the weather and stuff like that and that way it's kind of a clean sterile
[1:57:54] environment so we can do our search warrant and stuff down there i can't tell you how long that's
[1:57:59] going to take or when it's going to be done um i know we don't the evidence lady that runs that
[1:58:05] garage is like hurry up and get your stuff out of my garage so i can get the next one in there so okay
[1:58:11] we'll get it in get it processed as quick as we can okay um hopefully they'll have the search warrant
[1:58:17] done and signed before the judge goes home today so that way we can knock it out first thing in the
[1:58:23] morning um they'll take updated photographs um any any of your firearms ammunition stuff that's in
[1:58:31] there we're going to seize right now um i think michelle needed anything important for the girls
[1:58:41] but i don't think that you i think all of their medicine this should be all at the house yeah yeah
[1:58:47] michelle should have everything in the house the kids take medicine yeah um now they don't have a key
[1:58:53] to the house though to get back in if they needed their belongings because i know they probably packed the
[1:58:57] back you know what i mean for a couple of things right but i would like to give her the food that
[1:59:01] at least is in there you know that type of thing is there is there a neighbor with a key no just got
[1:59:08] a landlord but i don't even really my landlord was kind of weird what what about what about on your
[1:59:14] on your key ring there's a key on the key ring yes a key on the key ring is it marked or is it something
[1:59:19] yeah i just don't want them going there by my by by their self or whatever that type of thing right
[1:59:24] it's got a whole bunch of little dots on it so what's going to happen with me that's what i want
[1:59:29] to know in my situation because i know we talking about that and all that stuff sir but i ain't lying
[1:59:34] i gotta poop again stomach flipping and i totally get it you said let me back up to the to the key
[1:59:49] is there yeah a bunch of different keys on there yeah just a house key with a dot so a whole bunch of
[1:59:54] little dots on it you know have your off your work keys on there the same same key ring right yes but
[2:00:01] uh we'll find it i'll fight it yes if we need to we'll help them out taking care of that yeah if
[2:00:10] anything i mean yeah they could just take because the way my keys are set up on there it's like another
[2:00:15] quick release latch you know what i mean so that that that that's that set of keys that's only quick
[2:00:20] release like they can just take that off and just keep the file if they want to do it that way you
[2:00:26] know what i mean so that way they can have that because it even got my harley my harley keys on it too
[2:00:34] you said michelle yes michelle who's michelle her name is is uh emmy and aubry's mom okay and she is
[2:00:48] she coming to get the girls she already got the girls are you okay with her going in there and
[2:01:03] getting stuff yeah i don't well i don't know what the situation is like i told you it really is bad
[2:01:09] so i don't want her going in the house and then they mistaking it as me so honestly just don't even
[2:01:15] worry about letting her get the key you know because god forbid if they do and they try you know
[2:01:20] i'm saying like they think it's me going in the home and i don't know what goes on because the the
[2:01:26] guy that you know the situation this thing happened to his family lives literally right across the street
[2:01:31] so i don't want her going in the house right right okay um as everything goes right now just kidding you
[2:01:51] are going to be arrested okay we find something anything you find all goes to the state's attorneys
[2:02:05] correct so we've reached out to them already i don't even got no money for them okay go ahead i'm sorry
[2:02:10] you told them where we're at okay i just want to make sure that right now we can take care of your
[2:02:16] kids or help you get your kids stuff that they might need well that money that's in there that cash or
[2:02:22] whatever just give it to michelle and if there any way i can even talk to michelle just so that way she
[2:02:26] knows the money that's in your wallet yeah i need to get that to her because i'm when i say i'm tight
[2:02:32] tight i don't have no money in my account like so i want to give that to her you know what i'm saying
[2:02:37] damn man Liam needs money too though what's what's michelle's number how much money is in your wallet
[2:02:55] six to seven hundred bucks you want you want to give that to her i don't want to give it all to her i just
[2:03:02] pushed him some of it but you want me to get your wallet and put it in here yeah just give it to her
[2:03:09] because i know that they're going to take it you know she's on her way back from tennessee no that's
[2:03:13] shelby that's liam's mom that's the little boy yeah michelle's already here but i tell you i already
[2:03:23] knew that was going to happen i ain't going to be upset or do no crazy but it just really does just
[2:03:28] i told you i knew it and i was exactly i was exactly right that's exactly why i got the military
[2:03:35] you know what i'm saying you stand your ground all of this other bullshit comes into play you know
[2:03:39] what i'm saying and it's messed up you know what was he doing beforehand what if i lied and said i was
[2:03:46] having sex or something like come on man like that don't matter the fact of the matter is the person
[2:03:51] being threatened and it's just like it's really sad but so i think the girl that was in here taking
[2:04:09] your pictures and stuff i put that with your property with her damn i can release it though yeah man
[2:04:17] my kids need that money man it's easy i can take care of that i can take care of that easy enough
[2:04:21] yeah because that the other stuff um so there's 190 or 120 i need that going to the boys to the
[2:04:30] barber shop though because that money has to go in there for us to make our payment for rent okay you
[2:04:34] know what i'm saying um because i had to use that to pay my cell phone bill this past week but i have
[2:04:41] the money you know i just need to put it back into the account so that they can make it right let me see
[2:04:46] what i can do will michelle handle that for you i mean if she if i can talk to her you know what i'm
[2:04:53] saying she would definitely do it she gonna make sure that my son is fine yeah she's not gonna even
[2:04:57] though she don't like me as a person you know what you know she gonna make sure that my kid is always
[2:05:01] taken care of so are you good if i just release the money to her and i'll i'll relay to her hey you
[2:05:10] know give what you say 190 if you know with 120 to the barber shop 20 to the barber shop yeah it should be
[2:05:16] 120 to 120 to the barber shop because i use the cell phone um use that money to pay the cell phone
[2:05:22] and then um the remainder of the money can go to her take care of it and then to take care of the girls
[2:05:30] okay um i just like i said i don't want to go into that house you're gonna you're gonna have you'll
[2:05:36] have a chance to to call and talk to her you know like call over there from the jail and all that stuff
[2:05:42] okay is there any way i can get numbers out of um the phone or is she already hauled ass with it
[2:05:47] because it's 2024 remove everybody number is there a specific number you're looking for um i would
[2:05:55] like to talk to brittany you would get with nick i don't know if he can it's plugged in i don't know
[2:06:02] if he can well you're that means you're giving us permission to go in there and get these phone numbers
[2:06:06] so we gotta rewrite again i don't worry about i don't have to rewrite it oh yeah you're gonna get
[2:06:11] yeah yeah yeah i'm not worried about that just you know what i'm saying just trying to get the
[2:06:14] numbers so that way i can at least have a number because i don't have nobody to call nobody nobody
[2:06:20] you know what i'm saying i don't got no one to call well you know michelle's number but you need
[2:06:25] britney yeah which is uh put in there actually you can don't even worry about it as long as i can call
[2:06:30] michelle michelle will give me the rest of the numbers and i think when you go to jail or whatever i
[2:06:35] don't know if they give you a damn whistle or anything but yeah you'd be able to like rack stuff down
[2:06:40] there'll be people and be able to get your stuff squared away in there so what am i being tried
[2:06:52] is murder yes that's crazy and that is on why because if you don't mind me asking you know man to
[2:07:04] man just wondering because there was no way shape or form that i see in my life that i ever said oh
[2:07:10] you know what let's go play fortnight do you know what i'm saying like well it's it's a lot more
[2:07:16] complicated than anything like that no i know i break down so even the person even whenever they're
[2:07:20] challenging you they turn left or whatever they're starting to retreat or are you sitting there
[2:07:25] doing something along those lines but like i said man you know the guy that was there he didn't see
[2:07:29] shit i know for a fact he didn't see shit you know what i'm saying literally he just he just rolled
[2:07:35] up i paid situational awareness i chose i pay attention to everything or whatever you know straight
[2:07:40] up so i'm just trying to think pinpoint to figure out who got the best angle as far as cameras though
[2:07:45] because i know we have people that got cameras up there and that's what i'm trying to figure out you know
[2:07:50] that's the only thing is there cameras in the shop in your shop no it didn't happen in the shop it
[2:07:55] happened outside it just you know i want them to see man you know like i said bro it's just that's
[2:07:59] just too much trash has a camera right outside of his shop is there anybody else that has access to
[2:08:05] the show nicole does nicole does she probably ain't recorded it because he said it just runs you know
[2:08:11] what i'm saying like it just runs you know 24 7. but the sad part about it is she ain't gonna let she
[2:08:17] she not gonna let you get access to it because of the shit that he was doing down there you know
[2:08:23] that's that's that was he doing that out front yeah man you know what i'm saying they've been
[2:08:28] notified multiple times or whatever you know elias had been down there that's why you see i
[2:08:32] showed you on the phone that he was like oh you know who is this gray suv i'm like brother like
[2:08:38] damn elias personal vehicle his own lady's personal vehicle you know what i'm saying that's how paranoid you
[2:08:44] are i was like that's crazy like damn i ain't never in my entire life bro never ever ever like
[2:08:59] never in my entire thought that i was gonna lose my life you check sarge out here in the hall
[2:09:25] that's a dumb question but is there anywhere i can smoke a cigarette good time ah no yeah
[2:09:45] okay following the interrogation prosecutors in florida's fifth judicial circuit moved forward
[2:10:02] with a homicide case against dwan demetrius ross jr ross was formally charged with second degree
[2:10:08] murder with a firearm in connection with the death of 33 year old trask c johnson before trial the defense
[2:10:14] pursued a stand your ground immunity motion arguing that the shooting should be treated as legally
[2:10:19] justified self-defense in august of 2025 the citrus county circuit court denied that motion allowing
[2:10:27] the prosecution to continue the case went before a citrus county jury in january of 2026 prosecutors
[2:10:34] argued that the shooting followed a confrontation between two neighboring business owners and that ross's
[2:10:40] decision to use a firearm during the altercation was not justified the defense maintained
[2:10:45] that ross acted out of fear during the physical fight on january 15th 2026 the jury found ross guilty
[2:10:52] of second degree murder with a firearm he was remanded into custody without bond while awaiting sentencing
[2:10:59] on february 24th 2026 ross was sentenced to life in florida state prison without the possibility of
[2:11:06] parole ross was later transferred into the florida department of corrections as of the latest custody
[2:11:12] record in the report he was housed a century correctional institution if you found this video
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