About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of Beachgoers Avoid Difficult Questions 😩 from The 40 year old Vegan, published July 12, 2026. The transcript contains 19,466 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"It's so great to see you. I haven't seen you guys for a very, very long time. How are you, Angela? I'm great. How are you doing? I'm great. So, guys, guess what we're doing today? Not that you've not seen this before, but we are talking to people at the beach here, and we are asking them an..."
[00:00:00] Speaker 1: It's so great to see you. I haven't seen you guys for a very, very long time. How are you, Angela?
[00:00:04] Speaker 2: I'm great. How are you doing?
[00:00:06] Speaker 1: I'm great. So, guys, guess what we're doing today? Not that you've not seen this before, but we are talking to people at the beach here, and we are asking them an important question, and that is... This is a social experiment. Oh, no.
[00:00:20] Speaker 2: No, no. It's this. That it's okay to abuse animals for pleasure.
[00:00:25] Speaker 1: Do you agree? Is it okay to exploit animals for pleasure? A lot of people think that they disagree with the sign, but...
[00:00:34] Speaker 2: They'll say they don't agree with the sign, but then if you ask them, are you vegan, they say no, and then you ask, well, why are you not vegan? And then you end up, you say, well, if you're not vegan, you clearly agree with this sign because you're paying for the abuse of these animals.
[00:00:50] Speaker 1: Then you're kind of agreeing with the sign, yeah. Yeah. So, guys, we're going to go for a little walk here. Join us on the boardwalk. Welcome, guys. I haven't seen you guys. Sorry, guys. Welcome back to the stream, and then it dies. All right. So, I hope this is working now. I'll put... I'll let you go ahead of me. Yeah. I'm following you. So, we are just headed down to a different area. What am I lying about? No, I'm just pretending that we're starting a stream from scratch and that we haven't been already doing this for a couple hours. Is it buffering still? Or am I back? Guys, this is the problem. You walk down and... Anyways, guys, this is the area... Again, I offer to everyone, guys, if you send me $7,000, in the description, there's a link, I will take off my shirt and I will go for a swim. $7,000, and then we can give some of that back to people. Anyways, guys, yes. It's kind of awkward holding a tripod with a camera attached to it and following Angela. And, yeah. So, hope you're enjoying the trip because it's not awkward at all. Oh, I got to turn on all messages. So, we'll take a quick break here. Guys, one in the chat if you're vegan, two of you're open-minded to change. Let's see some green hearts. Let's share with the stream, guys. We are at Woodbine Beach and we are talking to the public. We're asking them how they feel about this sign. Angela, let's see the sign. Is it okay to abuse animals just for pleasure? What do you think, guys? Do you think that's an okay justification?
[00:02:58] Speaker 2: Oh, do you want me to get what I was going to say? Yeah, so we're just asking people if they agree with this sign. Most people don't. Well, I'd say everyone doesn't until you ask them if they're vegan and then they say no. And then you ask them why. And most cases, they're kind of stumped. And then the rest of the people, they just say, oh, but I love the taste of meat. And then you just inform them that if you love the taste of meat, you are agreeing with the sign because you are paying for the abuse of animals.
[00:03:42] Speaker 3: Better? Yes. Awesome. All right. Okay.
[00:03:56] Speaker 1: This is so awkward. Anyways, yeah. So guys, we're just walking down the beach here. I don't know why I'm talking like a fucking reporter. So we're just going to go down to like a volleyball area here and there's a lot more people. And so maybe we'll be able to have some more conversations. Maybe more people willing to stop. Again, this is the beach, if you couldn't tell. A ton of people here enjoying their Sunday off. And I actually had some really great conversations on the weekend. Maybe we'll stop here for a second. Had some really great conversations on Sunday with a We the Free event. Friday? Was it Friday? Sorry. Oh, yeah. Sorry, sorry. I'm mixing up days. Sorry about the...
[00:04:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, we had We the Free on Sunday. Well, two weeks ago.
[00:04:54] Speaker 1: Yeah. We had We the Free a few days ago. And holy crap. Almost right away, guys, we had people going vegan. Almost just like after they watched the 3-Minute Movie Challenge. So if you're curious, guys, check out the link in the description. The link tree there, it has a 3-Minute Movie Challenge there. Go check it out. See it for yourself. See if you agree with the system that's going on. It's a system that many of us don't agree with. And that's why I'm out here today. I'm with my friend, another damn vegan. And we are having conversations. Hopefully, we'll be able to get some more people to stop. We will be moving further down. I just needed to adjust myself here. Guys, again, let me know if you're vegan. Let me know if you know what happens in the animal agriculture industry. One, if you're vegan. Two, if you're someone who's open to change. Three, if you think we should still be exploiting animals. Also, four, if you're a hunter. Five, if you're a farmer. Let's see some green hearts as well. And hopefully, we can get some conversations going. Once again, it was more me just talking. And Angela was actually doing some great outreach, speaking with some people that agree that we shouldn't abuse animals, that we shouldn't use them. Jason's a five, apparently, now. Jason Goof? Yeah, Jason. Jason's a funny guy. Yeah. But you can be a farmer, and you can be a plant-based farmer. That's true.
[00:06:31] Speaker 2: And he has an awesome garden. Well, there you go. Yeah.
[00:06:34] Speaker 1: So he's got the correct... Go check out.
[00:06:35] Speaker 2: He's done a live about it, and it's pretty cool. So check out Jason Goof's YouTube channel. Yeah.
[00:06:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, great. Yeah, go over and check out Jason. Incredible activist, helping just about every stream, always in every stream. Throwing out the hearts, being kind, doing the videos, and the kind of stuff that we need to have happen. So if you guys didn't know, I'm an ex-Slaughterhouse inspector. I work for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency. A number of you already know that, but for those tuning in. So a very exploitative industry. I thought we had to eat animals. My whole family worked in it, and I changed 12 years ago. And now I'm talking to y'all. Like an American. Even though I'm Canadian. Talking to y'all. Talking to y'all. I'm kind of losing my... I'm getting inflections from traveling around, so... So yeah, why don't we... If you guys want, we'll go down to the other area, though. It's like a volleyball area. And you guys can enjoy me face and the beach. Vegan dog... Veggie dogs are good, yeah. Yeah, they're good. They're better than the alternative. Oh my God, look at that dog.
[00:08:01] Speaker 2: You see that? I think it's a tiny...
[00:08:03] Speaker 1: Tiny little dog, yeah. So I'll show you guys kind of where I'm walking.
[00:08:07] Speaker 2: I wish we had ice cream today. Because all those kids buy the ice cream.
[00:08:13] Speaker 1: Oh, ice cream, yeah. So we did outreach on Canada Day, July 1st. And my friend Mary bought 500 ice cream sandwiches. And I want to say it was like an hour before they were all gone.
[00:08:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't keep long at all.
[00:08:29] Speaker 1: And everybody loved them and we had terrific conversations. These are the things we got to do. You know, maybe if you can't afford the ice creams, I think at least get out there and speak up. Simon, video, and Angela? What is that? Is that code?
[00:08:50] Speaker 2: So, I don't know. Oh, no, I told you. Oh, you have a companion. Yeah, my little foster guy.
[00:08:57] Speaker 1: Foster guy.
[00:08:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, so, yeah, I know. I was supposed to do a live stream on Wednesday. I haven't done it yet. Oh. My cooking one. Oh, sorry. Do you want me to go ahead? So, yeah, I'm a little late on my cooking live stream this week. Maybe we'll do it tonight. But, yes, absolutely. Simon will make an appearance and we may even just do a live stream with me and Simon because he's really cute. The one I pirate cat. So, yep. That's it. Cool. Thank you very much. There's your update.
[00:09:32] Speaker 1: I'm glad I could update through the, you know.
[00:09:35] Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, David.
[00:09:38] Speaker 1: So, yes, holy shit, it is hot out today. It's cute. What's this? So, we're just kind of walking around the beach here. We're going to have a conversation with some people. We've got a sign here and it says, it is okay to abuse animals for pleasure. So, a person who just showed up, do you think that's a valid statement? Do you think that we should abuse animals for pleasure? What are your thoughts on that statement?
[00:10:13] Speaker 2: Do you think that's okay?
[00:10:16] Speaker ?: Yeah.
[00:10:19] Speaker 1: So, this is... It's so busy in this area. It's good to see, like, people being physically active. Volleyball is a pretty good, great sport for all around, being physical. So, I do see, like, some shade over there. Maybe that can be a spot. So, we're at the beach.
[00:10:52] Speaker 4: I love the beach.
[00:10:53] Speaker 1: The beach is the place to be. Guys, if you can't get outside once in a while, you know, I think it's so important to go on walks and get out there. Get to...
[00:11:06] Speaker 2: Especially you trolls. Get out. Active.
[00:11:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, especially the trolls.
[00:11:10] Speaker 2: Leave the basement once in a while.
[00:11:12] Speaker 1: These guys don't know what the sun is. Maybe get out once in a while, guys, the trolls. All right, we're going to stop. Well, we'll go up. Yeah. Just go right in the shade. Yeah. Yeah, that looks good. Excellent. Sorry for the extreme close-up. We'll go right over here. Or, actually, no, you're right. We should go over here. Here? Or, like, should we go on the edge here? Like, living on the edge? So, we can put this down here. Can we even see the stream? Like, holy...
[00:12:08] Speaker 2: Yeah. Just...
[00:12:10] Speaker 1: Barely.
[00:12:12] Speaker 2: Look, sorry.
[00:12:13] Speaker 1: That's okay. Living on the edge, guys. Is it... Yeah, that's good. Maybe...
[00:12:22] Speaker ?: Oh.
[00:12:23] Speaker 1: I just said dark is the battery life.
[00:12:26] Speaker 2: Oh. Okay, now.
[00:12:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, please like, subscribe. Thank you, Paulina. Always here. Share of the stream. Gotta find some...
[00:12:38] Speaker 4: Why do you need to do that? Why do you need to do that?
[00:12:43] Speaker ?: Why do you need to do that?
[00:12:46] Speaker 1: How long have I been vegan? So, I've been vegan for 12 years. Unfortunately, prior to that, I worked in slaughterhouses and also as an inspector and various roles for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency. So, I worked in fish sampling, I worked in licensing and registration, I worked in imports, exports, I worked in processing and pandemic response. I followed sort of my family, my grandparents immigrated from Portugal, the job they were given was slaughterhouses, my grandfather became an inspector, my uncle became one of them, and then I became one. So, that's how I, basically, I saw a lot of things that really messed me up, and I didn't know there was a thing called vegan, I didn't know what that was. And so, 12 years ago, I just don't want to be a part of this system. I saw a cow on a truck, mother cow, who was, her head was stomped on, covered in feces, and her calf was, she gave birth on the truck, the calf was stomped on as well. You could barely make out the calf, covered in feces, and I was like, why am I doing this, why am I part of this? So, I went home to my partner that night, said, listen, I can't, I can't do this anymore, and she helped me, like, eat plant-based. I didn't really know what veganism was, again, so I just started researching, learned about these things, and made the change, and haven't looked back, and now I've worked up the courage to talk to people out in the streets, because I know how important it is. We are consuming violence, we're treating the most vulnerable in ways that most people don't even realize, so, it's not mandatory to eat animals, or anything like that, so, yeah, there's the story. But, yeah, it's really not about me, or veganism isn't really about us, it's about the individuals being exploited, about their interests, and them not wanting to be used. Confined, tortured, worn, looked at, like zoos, for example, so, my friend Angela and I are here, we just moved to a different spot, figured it would be nice for the ongoing streamer, people that have been here all day, thank you so much. Happy accident, no, I'm not, I'm not here to pick up, dude, if you want to, to pick up, or whatever, I'm sure there's apps for that, that's not what the stream's about.
[00:15:41] Speaker 2: People get confused sometimes.
[00:15:44] Speaker 1: They do, don't they? I just got a whiff of weed, so, in Canada, if you didn't know, um, weed is legal, so, so, all, ever since it's gone legal, everybody's, just, tokes. Yeah, N-A-D-D-I, like, listen, there's a video in the description, in my channel here, on the link tree, go to that, check it out, you'll be, you'll be informed, you'll be an informed consumer after that, and there's some great resources there as well. Yeah, it's pretty simple, right, it's a simple question. I don't know, I don't know, Mr. Perfecto.
[00:17:03] Speaker 2: You'll have to go to an American life suite.
[00:17:05] Speaker 1: I'm in Canada, but, hey, audio's breaking up a bit, thank you for letting me know. I think sometimes when we move out of, it's usually, like, for some reason, here to here.
[00:17:19] Speaker ?: Anyone who eats them? Are you vegan? No, I'm not a vegan. Oh, well, then, you can't go. Yeah, I eat beef, I eat chicken.
[00:17:29] Speaker 1: Do you want to discuss?
[00:17:31] Speaker ?: I'm 68 years old, I need protein.
[00:17:34] Speaker 1: I get protein, I've been vegan for 12 years, bro.
[00:17:37] Speaker ?: I know, I totally agree.
[00:17:38] Speaker 1: Thank you. Hey, there's a sign.
[00:17:40] Speaker ?: Not me.
[00:17:41] Speaker 1: Why? They're innocent animals, you know? I worked in slaughterhouses, that's why I'm out here.
[00:17:47] Speaker ?: Good job.
[00:17:49] Speaker 1: Vegan for 12 years, you can do it, too. Go visit one. So, audio is breaking up a bit. Hopefully, it's a bit better, guys. Let me, you know. Luke Davidson. Ben, chickpeas and wheat flour are helpful for converts. Yeah, I had, oh, I had this, well, it was a smash Reuben sandwich. It was like, it had chickpeas in it and it had dill. Oh, my God. People come, like, people are ridiculous when it comes to food. Thank you, Mo. Audio is fixed for now. For now. Fuck, man. Drives you crazy, right? Because you get the right stuff. And then, if you're so far away, there's an issue. And I don't know if it's the chord that I have. I mean, you can play around with it all the time, right? At some points, I just, I don't even use the mic. And it seems I get a decent amount of views. Om, oh, my God. I called you Mo again. Sorry, om, om, om, om, om, om, om. I'm so sorry. I'm an idiot. No, I wasn't born into a vegan family. I, in fact, nobody else in my family, immediate family, is vegan. So, I'm the only one to break out of the mold. My entire family worked in agriculture, basically. So, I'm kind of the one that moved outside of that after I realized that you could not. Yeah. Om, om, om. I'm just, I got to keep saying it or I'm going to keep forgetting it. Yeah, I know. I keep calling Mo, too. Yes. How are you doing? Good, good. Great. I'm David. Gerardo, nice to meet you.
[00:19:45] Speaker 2: I know Smuky's in the chat. Look at his t-shirt.
[00:19:49] Speaker 1: Can we get you, we'll move you this way a little bit more. There we go. So, we got a Guinness, Ireland t-shirt for Spooky, if you're there. Yeah. We went out of our way. We called him in. Yeah. Yeah. So, what do you think of the sign? Oh, this sign. Oh, this one.
[00:20:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
[00:20:13] Speaker 5: No, no. You don't? The abuse is not at all good. Well, I was telling her that I'm actually vegan, so I'm probably wasting your time, guys, here. So, you're vegan? Yeah, yeah. He's vegan.
[00:20:23] Speaker 1: How long have you been vegan?
[00:20:25] Speaker 5: For probably 13 years now.
[00:20:27] Speaker 1: Okay, nice. Yeah. And so, what made you start thinking about these things, or was there a particular moment?
[00:20:35] Speaker 5: So, the final decision actually was made by my wife, but we jump in or move toward it slowly. So, I was, because of some health issues, I was half of the way, so doing totally on salads, on non-dairy, because of issues. Yeah. In the place where I come from, which is Mexico, we eat a bunch of meat in, like, half of the dishes in Mexico comes with meat. So, but my wife got into the animal rights, activism, and things like that. So, one day, she told me, I remember clearly, we're not, we're moving into veganism today, today, like, today. That is amazing. And, yeah, we did it.
[00:21:26] Speaker 1: I love your wife already. I love your wife already. Yeah.
[00:21:30] Speaker 5: Thank you. Yeah.
[00:21:31] Speaker 1: And so, now, if, say, your wife had to move away and broke up with you or something, I'm not saying that's going to happen, would you continue to be vegan? Of course. Yeah.
[00:21:45] Speaker 5: It's like the red pill or the blue pill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, once you see the truth, you cannot unsee it. Unseen it, yeah. I love it. It's something that makes no sense at all, once you're there, once you see the real facts. Yeah, not at all.
[00:22:04] Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. So, are you local, Toronto? Yes. Cool. Well, I have some information my friend can give you. Did you give him a card? Yep. Oh. So, this is my channel here. This is going to be online. But, so, we have a wonderful animal rights community here. We have parents that are animal rights activists who run teams, local teams and stuff too. So, we're just trying to include community and we would love to include you and your wife to come to some of our events and stuff too. There's something called animalrightstoronto.com and you can see a list of events there. So, if you ever feel like joining us, there's no, you don't have to do anything. You can just show up to an event or you can reach out to me and I can help you guys join in if you like. Yeah.
[00:22:52] Speaker 5: Okay. No, no, no. Definitely, definitely I'm going to dig into this. Amazing. Look forward.
[00:22:56] Speaker 1: So, this will bring you to a three-minute movie challenge. This is generally what I give to people that haven't seen it. So, it's a good video to show people and then it has a whole catalog of resources. You've probably already seen them all maybe but my channel here is on Instagram as well, the 40-year-old vegan. Just reach out to me, connect with me on Instagram and then I can help you get involved in it if you like.
[00:23:20] Speaker 5: So, no special requirements? No, no, no. Because I was trying to attend the Anonymous for the Voiceless. Okay. But I don't have the black. Sure, sure. Yeah, I don't have black on label. Okay, no problem. I need to get that first and then.
[00:23:36] Speaker 1: So, no, there's no requirements with the other events. So, I run a group called We the Free. So, you can show up wearing whatever you like. And we have an event actually on the 19th. And so, we also have other events prior to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, great. Awesome.
[00:23:52] Speaker 5: If I'm free. Yeah. Amazing. We'd love to see you there. And see what, how can we support?
[00:23:59] Speaker 1: Well, we're like-minded, right? We think the same way. It's important to develop community. And if you feel like you're strange from that, we can totally bring that, you know. No, no, no.
[00:24:08] Speaker 5: It's awesome. Also, meet people that go for the cost, right?
[00:24:12] Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. Well, good luck. You have a great day. Yeah.
[00:24:15] Speaker 5: Well, thank you.
[00:24:16] Speaker 1: Yeah. Why don't you stop being vegan? Because we respect animals. That was great. You'd like to know that 80% of the animals you consume are under seven weeks old, that a lot of them are under six months old, or a lot of them are two to five years old. And when we're talking about cows, do you want to talk about antibiotic resistance? Do you want to talk about hormones? Do you want to talk about pandemic risk? Do you want to talk about PTSD, drug alcohol addiction, because of these places? What would you like to talk about? The facts? Yeah, actually, no, I know, Peter. Is it okay now? It seems like the further I get away, maybe I'll switch the mics. Thanks, Peter, for letting me know. Yeah, so, B12, definitely crackling. Again, that freaking crackling. It drives me crazy. And I don't know what to do about it. I try to adjust it and work with it. I try to, you can try practice live streams, and, yeah, it is the further away. I had that situation before. So, yep. Somebody help me. Somebody figure out what's wrong with my mics and why I keep having this crackling issue. A lot of people are having it, though. I looked it up, and a number of people are having issues. So, I don't know if it's YouTube or if it's my mics. I can definitely switch out this one for another one and see. Oh, vegan stoner lady. You know, right? It's like, it's tough enough to get out, and then you have these, sometimes, these, like, conversations, if you know what I mean, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, man, I got to deal with tech issues, too. Like, and, and the thing is, it's not cheap, either, so. It's not, actually. The, the mics, actually, the mics last forever. I restarted the YouTube app. I did all the things I was told to do. I did all the things. So, any change, guys? I can, uh, also... The power of positivity will help me. Yeah, hopefully. That's the only way, guys, actually. Being positive. I wonder if it's this. I wonder if it's this, because this is newer. So, I'm going to try without. And just let me know if you guys notice any difference in sound whatsoever. Yeah, I did update the road. Clearer, Peter. Thank you. Peter McQueen in the house. Oh, wow. By the way, guys, Peter McQueen, we were talking about it, uh, last night, while we were, just after our two events that we did yesterday. Peter McQueen. This guy, I, I swear, this guy has done probably more events, driven more miles, probably, than any other animal rights activist, probably in the world. I want to say. Between him and Jenny McQueen, I got, I got a lot of catching up to do. Let's just put it that way. So, W's for Peter McQueen. Please. Thank you. He doesn't like the, he doesn't like the, he doesn't like to talk about, you know, that, he doesn't like the, the accolades, but, man, it's not, it's not, there's no even thinking about, oh, do I got to go out or, oh, do I got to do something? It's just like, okay, what are we doing next? W. Like, animal rights marches, marshal safety, like, uh, bringing people to events, driving people, the whole thing. McQueen. Yes, green hearts. Guys, one in the chat if you're vegan, two, if you're someone open-minded to change, three, if you're someone who thinks that we should exploit animals, guys, let's hit that heart button. I need the likes to go up, uh, before you can shut me up, you gotta hit those like buttons.
[00:29:31] Speaker 2: It is not, I agree. Are you vegan by any chance?
[00:29:36] Speaker 1: Oof, the tough question is always, are you vegan by any chance? And often they're walking by and saying no, but they, they disagree that.
[00:29:44] Speaker 2: And they don't want to talk.
[00:29:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, they, they think animal abuse is a bad thing, but does their wallet, does their dollar go to that? Um.
[00:29:55] Speaker 3: Yes. What up all?
[00:30:02] Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Well, I'm going that way sometime. So there's a, there's a volleyball game. Pretty, like, busy area. Um, we had a converse, I had like one conversation earlier. This is why I wasn't sure if this would be like the best spot. Uh, we did have some, a lot of conversations during Canada Day. Um, but you know, it is what it is, right? At least you guys get to listen to me, uh, and, and look at me face for a few hours. Because that's exciting. You lost 150 pounds on a diet. Congratulations. You know, there's a lot of diet trends out there, my guy. One that increases your, uh, risk of all cause mortality is that diet you're talking about. Uh, I wouldn't risk your health, uh, I wouldn't risk your health, but.
[00:30:59] Speaker ?: No? Do you have time for a conversation about it? I'm about to play back in the turbo, so I need so much time. Oh, I'm afraid of you, man. I'm not making them. Oh, I'm afraid of you. Oh, I'm afraid of you.
[00:31:09] Speaker 1: These guys are spiking the ball near me.
[00:31:13] Speaker ?: Don't be sorry to me. Be sorry to the animals.
[00:31:17] Speaker 1: I love that. Angela's like, don't be sorry to me. Be sorry to the animals. Stop exploiting animals. That's the point. B.S. What's B.S.? What's a good diet to go on? A plant-based diet? Absolutely. Animals. Jared, you don't salivate when you look at roadkill. It's not like when you see a squirrel, you're like, yum, yum. Or a dog or a human. You're not like, mmm, food. You're conditioned, Jared. We've had this conversation. Look at all the hearts here. Marcos. What a legend. Always supporting people in the street. I see you, Marcos. We all see you. Thank you for all your support. Helping out so many activists. Actualize and get out in the street. Actualize some of their dreams of becoming full-time activists. Highly encourage people that can do that kind of stuff. Please do. We need more of us out in the streets. You know, there's so few of us. There are, like, it seems like there's a lot of us, but there are so few of us that have just, we have so many powerful voices. And I think Anna was saying it on one of her streams recently about getting out there, that we need your help. The animals need you to get out there. Look, you get a mic, you get talking, it flows out of you. You know the conversation, you know the arguments. And even if it's a little tricky like the guy I had before, again, it's not that difficult. Look at me. I'm stumbling over my words, I'm, you know, I get trolled all the time. It doesn't matter, guys. It doesn't matter. Jared is an animal abuser. He's glorifying his taking a life for no reason. Like, imagine, imagine Jared had to fight somebody his own size. Maybe not own size, but maybe someone that could defend themselves with a weapon or something like that. Why don't you pick on somebody who can defend themselves, Jared, instead of coming on here and glamorizing your kill. People like yourself obviously have these psychopathic tendencies. And a lot of you people don't know that. But people like Jared will hang heads on walls and glorify it and make fun of people that don't do this. But likely, I do feel a little sorry for you, Jared. That's why I haven't booted you yet. Because it's people like you that probably were conditioned by your parents, conditioned by a dad who brought you out to look at animals as things, as items that you can just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, arbitrarily kill. And now, oftentimes when you move from empathy, you move to apathy. And a lot of times people move to psychopathy, which is very sad because this world accepts that. This world allows it. This world says it's okay. And you can see with some of the comments how triggered people get. Yeah, tell us about your first time. Your first time is terrible. Your second time is terrible. But then you become conditioned to accept this and be okay with it. It's normal to you. You think it's acceptable. And it really isn't. At the end of the day, you're just doing it because you've been conditioned. You've been told to, and you get a thrill out of it, right? You get some excitement out of that. When you can go do, like, some other event where you're actually being chased and maybe, you know, like, go play volleyball for fuck's sakes. Like, it's not that difficult. Alisha.
[00:35:06] Speaker 2: Oh, Alisha?
[00:35:07] Speaker 1: Yeah. Teaspoon.
[00:35:10] Speaker 2: Alisha, hi.
[00:35:12] Speaker 1: Maybe we can't. No, I don't want to take that away from Allison, though. Allison. You know, like, that's Allison's thing.
[00:35:20] Speaker 2: Well, we do it with Mason. We do it with Louie. Oh, you do?
[00:35:23] Speaker 1: So people are doing the voice?
[00:35:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'd be like, Alisha!
[00:35:32] Speaker 3: Spooky!
[00:35:33] Speaker 2: Yep. We do it with Jason.
[00:35:37] Speaker 1: Infantry. I hunted animals, too. So what? You hunted them. Like, listen to what you're saying. I hunted them. I hunted them. This is, like, bullies. Bullies taking out innocent animals. Yeah, exactly. Paulina, I mean, you're saying it right there. I don't even have to say it. Guys, one in the chat again if you're vegan. Two, if you're someone who's open-minded to change. Three, if you think animals should be exploited. Four, if you're a hunter five, if you are a farmer. Guys, I'm out at Woodbine Beach. Doing some outreach here today. Sometimes we pick other beaches to go to. And we do some conversations. We had one for Canada Day. That was pretty great. We gave up 500 ice creams. We got to say thanks to Mary Chris Staples. What an incredible activist she is. She bought those ice cream sandwiches and just gave them to the public. And guess what? They all loved it. They all enjoyed it. Nobody, as Lenny Bruce said, that's the first event I ever went to where I wasn't heckled. Which is pretty incredible. People like gifts, right? So that's why we do something called a three-minute movie challenge, where it's a challenge to come in and watch the video. It is in the link in the description, the link tree. You can go watch this video and see the truth, the reality of what happens with your food system. And it's under three minutes. It's fairly quick. And you can have some resources there, other documentaries, speeches, stuff like that, if you're someone who's open-minded. Go do it. Go check it out. And Angela is just having, like, good conversations all day today. So, guys, do this. Do this yourselves. Do you find any specific tech more effective on your corner of the world? So, the tripod I have is actually, like, I ordered it online a long time ago. And it's very light. It's very efficient. Like, I'm able to fit everything in my backpack. And I have other stuff in here, too. But I would say that's the best thing. When the Rode mics came out, I was, like, all over it. I'll get the Rode mics because they can just, like, literally record right out of the case. Yes. Oh, sorry. So, yeah. The thing is, with AV and We the Free, I don't, like, I don't, sometimes I've recorded myself at AV. But because I organize We the Free, I'm generally just in quarterback mode, like, starting a video, helping people do outreach. Like, I'm normally doing the organizer mode. So, I don't really get a chance to do too much outreach with We the Free. And even generally AV, I'm kind of just always kind of in the middle of it. This is why, like, there is an AV event going on today. But I figured, you know, I have 72 people in the room. Maybe I can get some more people this way. And, yeah, I think, like, there's two things. So, I used to, like, years ago when TikTok first came out, I did, I would do, like, six-hour streams. And I would yap like I'm doing right now. And I'd have six views, seven views, ten views. And I was like, well, this isn't really efficient. I tried YouTube, same thing. I wasn't getting any traction. So, I said to myself, well, maybe I'm meant to do something else. So, I toyed with the idea of podcasts. I did one, did a couple of them. And then David Rams had me on his, and he said, well, not on his podcast. Yeah, why? David Rams, why haven't you had me on your podcast? But he did. He had me on his longer streams with a bunch of other activists. So, he's like, you should do the podcast stream. Or, sorry, the podcast, like, just get on as many as you can. And I agreed. But I also decided that doing events and being an organizer was probably the best way to build community and help people become active and stuff like that. So, that's why I moved towards that. And then it wasn't until last year when... Potential conversations. Oh, yeah. We're going to the lockdown. Oh, okay. Okay, cool, cool. Yeah. Yeah, so then I went to, what was it? No, so then we, I saw some, like, live streams taking off. And so, like, I noticed that YouTube switched to the vertical. And I was like, there's something here. Because of all the talk about TikTok shutting down, like, in the U.S., I'm like, someone's going to jump on that market and try to, and YouTube was, trying to take that over. So, that would be the norm. So, I was like, huh, there's something to this. Saw some live streams. They got tons of views. And I'm like, well, what if I try this? So, I conversed with Mel and Steve. We talked about it a little. They did a few lives where they were getting pretty good views. Chip was doing the live streams as well. The vegan sign guy was doing them live as well. And then, yeah, I was like, well, maybe I'll try it. And so, we determined that, like, after five streams, then you start to really take off. So, I talked to Mel and Steve. We decided, okay, we'll do this live streaming stuff together. And I think it was Mel, maybe, that came up with the idea of project live stream. And so, we said, okay, we'll get, you know, myself in Canada and then them in the UK. So, we'll start this project live stream thing. And from there, well, you know how it's gone, right? It's taken off. So, it's been really great. Very happy about it. Because you, because you a piece of shit. Just because you have a fucking pop phone. Don't use it for these shit, jackass. Who really gives a fuck?
[00:42:09] Speaker ?: What?
[00:42:10] Speaker 1: I don't know. King Cash. King Cash. I think you're probably. I think King Cash is probably out of cash. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's why you're so triggered.
[00:42:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:42:21] Speaker 1: Maybe you shouldn't have put, you shouldn't have gone all in, dude. You shouldn't have bluffed. Like, I can't help you there. If you can't play poker, then don't play poker. Like.
[00:42:30] Speaker 2: Yeah. Especially with me.
[00:42:32] Speaker 1: It's funny. We were talking about $7,000. I.
[00:42:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:42:36] Speaker 1: I think it was $7,000, yeah. I actually won $7,000 playing poker once. You did? Yeah.
[00:42:42] Speaker 2: And that's good. You got up and you stopped.
[00:42:45] Speaker 1: Uh, yes. I stopped. Yeah.
[00:42:48] Speaker 2: No, I've seen.
[00:42:50] Speaker 1: I, um.
[00:42:51] Speaker 2: I've seen people who were up, like, over $100,000. And they thought they'd get more. And then, when I came back, they were down, like, $50,000. Yeah. And I was like, so not only did you lose, like, basically, he paid, he played almost $200,000 to be, you know, his $100,000. And then, when I came back, he was down $50,000. I was like, oh my gosh.
[00:43:15] Speaker 1: Like our guy here. He's got to know when to fold them, you know? Yeah. Know when to fold. It's like, know when to walk away and know when to run. Know when to run.
[00:43:23] Speaker 2: Run, buddy.
[00:43:23] Speaker 1: Get a fucking life. Just a, just a thought. Well, I'm alive, right? Like, how do I get a life if I'm alive? Please, please do inform. Please tell me what, please lead the way, my guy. Tell me how I should be like you. Tell me what I should do to live a life, guys. I'm trying to live a life. Let's see how Cash King says I should get a life. Wait, I thought I, wait, did he say, wait a second here. I used to play poker. Um, wait a second. Most people aren't vegan, get a job. You know, um, hey, some call me fur. Did I get a job yet? Well, I'd like to explain something to you guys. Um, someone, uh, sent me a donation and they told me to get a job. And I was like, okay. And then, then someone, because of that donation, because I shared it in a post, they told me not to get a job. So, I'm kind of confused here, guys. Do I get a job? Do I don't get a job? Should I get a job? Like, I'm, I'm kind of confused. So, if someone wants to donate to the stream, uh, there's a link in the description. And, and try to, try to decide this thing for me. I can't, I don't know what to do here. So, if you think I should get a job, you know.
[00:45:02] Speaker 2: Donate five dollars?
[00:45:03] Speaker 1: Well, not even five. No, it's got to be more than how much was donated. Oh, I'm sorry. But, I'm not going to say how much was donated.
[00:45:10] Speaker ?: Oh, okay.
[00:45:11] Speaker 1: Because, yeah. You'll never get to like me, but change for you might help some. Maybe.
[00:45:25] Speaker ?: Yeah.
[00:45:27] Speaker 1: This is my job now. Uh, God fed people with meat. No, that's not what happened. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, isn't the goal to retire? I mean, I'm retired, but apparently people want people that are retired to work. Like, maybe, maybe we should be protesting the old home, old folks' homes, right? Be like, yo, get a job. What are you doing?
[00:45:57] Speaker 3: Lazy buggers.
[00:45:57] Speaker 1: You lazy buggers. You know, pull them out of the wheelchair. Be like, get up, get to work, right? That's what I'm assuming these guys advocate for. And King, whatever his name, King Cash? You haven't, you haven't explained to me how I should be like you. Um, so I can be cool or something. Let's not use the ableist language, Jared. Let's not use that ableist language, because I don't appreciate that. King Trash, ooh. Is it related to King Cash? Ben's, Ben's be fighting King Cash, I think. I don't know if it's related. It might not be related.
[00:46:40] Speaker ?: Oh, no. I thought it was like this country.
[00:46:44] Speaker 1: Feeding people fish, yes. Well, in fact, most, like, what is it, 100 billion fish are factory farmed, and they're fed with, like, soy, and I think bones, and people are eating that shit. Fucking unbelievable, man. It's coming home.
[00:47:08] Speaker 2: Do you guys agree with my son? Cool. That it's okay to use animals, just for fun.
[00:47:11] Speaker 1: Jason's going raspberry picking. Just always showing off, Jason. Always showing off. Teasing us here. Jason's going raspberry picking.
[00:47:22] Speaker 2: Oh.
[00:47:23] Speaker 1: He's teasing us.
[00:47:25] Speaker 2: I know.
[00:47:25] Speaker 1: He's kind of a show-off.
[00:47:27] Speaker 2: He actually, yes.
[00:47:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason's a bit of a show-off. Show-off.
[00:47:31] Speaker 2: Brag, brag, brag.
[00:47:32] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[00:47:37] Speaker 2: Make sure you post about it after, so we can see.
[00:47:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Tease us more by posting about it. Guys, go subscribe to Jason Gut.
[00:47:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, Gut.
[00:47:47] Speaker 1: Gut.
[00:47:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Gut.
[00:47:49] Speaker 1: Gut, sorry.
[00:47:50] Speaker 2: Go check out his channel.
[00:47:51] Speaker 1: I keep screwing up the names.
[00:47:52] Speaker 2: It's okay.
[00:47:53] Speaker 1: She was looking. Sorry, Jason. I'm a jerk. You'll make fun of me later, though, I'm sure. What do the signs say? So, we have two. So, I know, like, I wish YouTube, YouTube, get the feature where the camera's turned around at the front. What are you doing? Like, you are the richest freaking company ever, and you can't figure out to do the front facing camera. Ridiculous. Anyways. It is okay to abuse animals for pleasure. And then, the other one, this is a social experiment. And I've taken off the filter to the mic, and I don't know if that's made things better. Hopefully, it has, but it's a bit windy, so, I don't know. Maybe I can put on the other, uh, the other filter, or sorry, the, whatever it's called. Cover thing. Yeah. We can't, we're not braining right now. It's hot. We have a spammer in the house. Yes. Spam away. Let's see those green hearts. Green hearts. One in the chat if you're vegan. Two if you're someone who's open-minded to change. Sorry, guys. I thought I'd be having more conversations, but it's just the way it is, you know? Oh, Martin's, like, laying the hammer down. You don't mess with Martin, and sometimes you don't mess with Benji, either. So, this is, like, the spot here. Pretty cool little spot. Hopefully, the stream you guys can see. Had some tech issues earlier. That was awesome. Love it. Yeah, Martin's, I mean, Martin's allowed to do whatever he wants, right? It's Martin. Of course. Everyone should green hearts for Martin, guys. Throw the green hearts in the chips. Big ups Martin. Come on, Martin. Yes, big ups Martin. He agrees. The guy agreed there. Still a bit blurry. Yeah, tech issues suck.
[00:50:04] Speaker ?: Yeah, tech issues suck.
[00:50:04] Speaker 1: But what do you do? Angela followed someone down the street. Angela followed someone down the street, down the boardwalk. It's been a busy weekend. We had two events yesterday. Had an event, and Sunday I had to travel. What else was there? No, wait. Sorry. I keep thinking Sunday was Friday. Sorry, yesterday. Saturday, right?
[00:50:31] Speaker ?: Yes.
[00:50:32] Speaker 1: See, I don't even know what day it is. That's what happens when you retire, guys. But you guys want me to go back to work? How am I going to even remember the days of the week? What the hell are you talking about? Vegan burgers. Don't tease me, guys. You're teasing me right now. Imagine soy boys right now.
[00:50:57] Speaker 2: We should do that after.
[00:50:58] Speaker 1: Maybe because you're a valued animal rights activist that's helped me out my streams. If you guys aren't subscribed to another damn vegan, then what is wrong with you?
[00:51:12] Speaker 2: What's wrong? If you want to see someone who's goofy and awkward, go check me out.
[00:51:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, go see the goofy and awkward. Because no vegans are ever that, right? Ben is subscribed. Well, subscribe again, Ben.
[00:51:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben.
[00:51:30] Speaker 1: We need to make up another account. Come on. What the heck is this? Well, thank you for the green hearts, Ben.
[00:51:36] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Thank you so much.
[00:51:37] Speaker 1: And thank you, Ben, for being on all the streams.
[00:51:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben's awesome. Thank you.
[00:51:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[00:51:44] Speaker 2: I'm lucky. I have a lot of, well, I think everyone who subscribes to me subscribes to you. Maybe. Yeah.
[00:51:49] Speaker 1: Maybe there's a little crossover. Yeah. You think so?
[00:51:51] Speaker 2: I think so.
[00:51:52] Speaker 1: Do you know any of these people? Do you know Miss Teaspoon? Yeah, I love Alicia. Do you know some call me Fur?
[00:51:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:51:59] Speaker 1: Do you know Kaz?
[00:52:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:52:02] Speaker 3: Do you know Ben?
[00:52:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:52:04] Speaker 3: Do you know Martin?
[00:52:05] Speaker 2: Yes, I love Martin.
[00:52:07] Speaker 3: Do you know Tad?
[00:52:09] Speaker 2: Tad. Yeah, of course I know Tad. Hey, Tad.
[00:52:12] Speaker 3: Do you know, we're looking at all the other names. Do you know Loris?
[00:52:18] Speaker 2: Yes.
[00:52:19] Speaker 3: Oh, Manna boy.
[00:52:23] Speaker 2: Hey, Manna.
[00:52:24] Speaker 3: Manna boy. What's up?
[00:52:26] Speaker 2: You talks, of course. PJ.
[00:52:27] Speaker 3: PJ.
[00:52:28] Speaker 1: Do you know Jake?
[00:52:29] Speaker 2: Uh, not familiar.
[00:52:31] Speaker 1: Jake. You might be tall. You might have a lot of luscious hair going on there.
[00:52:35] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:52:36] Speaker 1: Do you know, you are nothing.
[00:52:40] Speaker 2: Who's this vegan stoner lady? Who's this vegan stoner lady? What kind of name is that anyways?
[00:52:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, who would use such a vulgar name? Your microphone's pop filter helps reduce wind, noise, and popping sounds. Thank you. Uh, do you know Om?
[00:52:59] Speaker 2: Yes, I know Om.
[00:53:01] Speaker 1: I said it right. I had to think for a second. Do you know vegan Christianity?
[00:53:06] Speaker 2: I do.
[00:53:07] Speaker 1: All right. I think we got through the list of names, I think. Yeah. If I didn't say your name, then you better, wait, come on down. Yeah. Yes. I do want to go.
[00:53:25] Speaker 2: Oh, you know what? You should, well, you're leaving me.
[00:53:29] Speaker 1: Oh, true. Yeah.
[00:53:30] Speaker 2: I keep giving him a hard time because I was going to say, let's plan a road trip.
[00:53:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the thing.
[00:53:37] Speaker 2: Maybe when you come back, if you come back.
[00:53:40] Speaker 1: Maybe we'll make a road trip down in the fall to hang out with the crazy west coasters.
[00:53:49] Speaker 2: Yeah. Is that how they talk?
[00:53:51] Speaker 1: Well, we're east coasters, aren't we?
[00:53:53] Speaker 2: Are we?
[00:53:54] Speaker 1: Well, I get. We're in the middle.
[00:53:56] Speaker 2: We're in the middle.
[00:53:57] Speaker 1: But we still considered east.
[00:53:58] Speaker 2: To them.
[00:54:00] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[00:54:01] Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, so. So we're east coasters. East coasters.
[00:54:04] Speaker 1: We're east coasters.
[00:54:06] Speaker 2: We can start talking to my dad.
[00:54:06] Speaker 1: Maybe you'll teach us how to speak.
[00:54:09] Speaker 2: Hey, bye.
[00:54:10] Speaker 1: Uh, surfer talk. Surfer ways. Surfer talk. Post-mortem.
[00:54:18] Speaker 2: Oh, I know post-mortem.
[00:54:20] Speaker 1: I'm just yelling at names at this point.
[00:54:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are all awesome.
[00:54:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are great. So we tried to have some conversations. I got to be honest. Even as a Canadian, like, the conversation, people are, like, kind of a little intimidated to have conversations sometimes.
[00:54:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you ask them, because they'll look at the sign, and first, almost everyone, they'll say yes, and then you're like, what? Do you support animal abuse? And then they're like, no, no, no. And then you ask them, oh, so then you're vegan? And then they say no. And then you ask them, why not? But they don't want to get into any conversation.
[00:55:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, it's like, Canadians are very good at not having an opinion publicly.
[00:55:16] Speaker 2: Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. Do you agree? I do. Because they'll have...
[00:55:19] Speaker 1: We're a little bit of pushovers, kind of? Or no?
[00:55:23] Speaker 2: I don't think we're pushovers.
[00:55:25] Speaker 1: Not when it comes to, like, when push comes to shove, but...
[00:55:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, we're... Reserved. Yeah, Canadians are more, like, laid back, and they'll, yeah, they'll complain, but not...
[00:55:39] Speaker 1: We definitely do say sorry a lot, right?
[00:55:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, we do apologize. I apologize to... I don't even know why I'm apologizing.
[00:55:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, sorry, I don't mean to bother you, but do you want to look at my sign?
[00:55:50] Speaker 2: And then they'll say, oh... It's just ingrained into us. I'm really dizzy, and they'll say, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, have a good day, and then that's it. But that's...
[00:55:56] Speaker 1: Like, even when we're protesting, and we're inside a store, and we're getting kicked out...
[00:56:01] Speaker ?: Oh, yeah.
[00:56:01] Speaker 1: They're like, can you please leave? And we're like, no. And they're like, yes. And we're like, no. But we don't talk like that, but I'm just... You know. But, like, it's like, we stay there forever, and then the security's like, please leave. Yeah, they'll be like, please. And we're like, no. And then...
[00:56:20] Speaker 2: And then they'll just be like, you can see, they just kind of give up, and then they're like...
[00:56:25] Speaker 1: We're going to call the police.
[00:56:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we're like, that's okay. And they're... That's a whole thing. Perfect example. Yesterday, yesterday, when we went to this restaurant called Lucie, and they serve foie gras. So, I went in, and I was speaking with the manager. And then he came back out, and he was speaking to me, and he was like, you know... Yeah, I told him. I said, it's really unfortunate that, you know, you guys said you were going to remove it, but you didn't. I said, now you're open to protests. And I was like... And it's probably...
[00:56:58] Speaker 1: You guys had, like, an hour-long conversation.
[00:57:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, we had, but it was...
[00:57:01] Speaker 1: Even outside, as the protest was going on...
[00:57:03] Speaker 2: He came to talk to me.
[00:57:04] Speaker 1: You guys were having, like, this civil conversation. I don't know. It's so Canadian. It's so Canadian.
[00:57:09] Speaker 2: So, but he came out, and he, like, he came out... I don't know if it was the second or third time, because he came out twice. And so then, he came... Oh, yeah. Because the second time he came out, he's like, you know, I'm going to have to call the police. He's like, I'm really sorry. And I said, oh, you know, that's okay. I said, I'm really sorry that we're so loud. But I did tell you, so to Canadian, I'm really sorry, but that we're disrupting. But we already told you it was going to happen. And he's like, well, I'm really sorry, but I'm going to have to call the police. But you have the right to do what you do. And I was like, well, that's okay. You do what you got to do, and we're going to do what we got to do. And he's like, that's okay.
[00:57:46] Speaker 1: I'm like, but, you know... It's like an agreement to be sorry, but, you know, anyways.
[00:57:50] Speaker 2: And then I said, if you want us to leave, just take foie gras off your menu, and you'll never...
[00:57:56] Speaker 1: Did you hear that, Lucy? We're coming back. I told you. Yeah, and I told you. I might even come back today.
[00:58:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:58:02] Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead.
[00:58:03] Speaker 2: That's okay. I told him, I said, you know, we'll be back every time, and you have an awesome opportunity to set an example.
[00:58:12] Speaker 1: Didn't he give you his business card?
[00:58:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, he gave me his business card. He asked me to email him so that we can discuss it a little further. And he's going to help me get in touch with the business owner. And he's going to... So he says, he's going to try to help me set up a meeting with the actual business owner. We'll see what happens with that. So this week, I am going to email him. We'll see what happens. But, yeah. And he was so upset when we were being loud. And then, like, if dogs came and then a baby came, he's like, he's like, think about the babies. I'm like, think about the ducks.
[00:58:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, having a pipe shoved down their throat.
[00:58:54] Speaker 2: And I told him, I said, we do. Like, we're very, we're respectful. And he was worried we were going to, like, break windows. We're not here to destroy anything.
[00:59:03] Speaker 1: We're non-violent. We're peaceful. Yeah.
[00:59:05] Speaker 2: I said, we're just very, very loud. And you're not going to like it because we're extremely loud.
[00:59:09] Speaker 1: I just got to interrupt the programming for a second. That's okay.
[00:59:13] Speaker 2: I went on a tangent.
[00:59:14] Speaker 1: Very good. Yeah, she's, she's in the house.
[00:59:21] Speaker 3: We're trying to reach him and see what's going on. It's just, like, hard to see. With the sun.
[00:59:29] Speaker 2: Oh, fur.
[00:59:30] Speaker 3: What's wrong? What happened? What happened?
[00:59:32] Speaker 2: Oh, no, she said she's better now. Were you not feeling well?
[00:59:36] Speaker 3: Who's, who's not good?
[00:59:37] Speaker 2: Fur said she's better now.
[00:59:39] Speaker 1: Oh, hope you're okay.
[00:59:40] Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, did you know that it was Fur's birthday the other day?
[00:59:43] Speaker 1: Did I? Didn't I?
[00:59:45] Speaker 2: I don't know if you didn't.
[00:59:46] Speaker 1: Oh, no, I was, I think it was Kuka's birthday that I shut it up. Guys, happy birthday, Fur.
[00:59:54] Speaker 2: There's a lot of July birthdays, and there's still some coming up this week.
[00:59:59] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[01:00:00] Speaker 1: See some green hearts for Fur Free. No, we're not, there's another Fur Free, Free Toronto. No, Some Call Me Fur is the other name that we're talking about.
[01:00:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about Some Call Me Fur.
[01:00:22] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[01:00:22] Speaker 2: Check out her account, post delicious food. You got to go see it. It's really good.
[01:00:28] Speaker 1: Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Do you want me to sing happy birthday? If you do, donate $11 million into Jake Lagatur's Patreon, and I'll sing happy birthday for you. Sorry, it's just my, I, like, I, I'm under contract. Um, so I can only do so much singing. Um, 7K is for something else, Ben. That's for, for singing something else. Birthdays are more, because they're, they, they have more, they have more meaning, Ben. So, the 7,000, if you want me to sing a 29 second clip, was that, that was right, Ben? Yeah. And then 5 billion, or no, 1 billion, for me to jump in the water with my shirt off. So, and then we did, I think it was the other day, we did 5 billion, I can't remember what it was for. Just taking my shirt off, was it, Anna? I think it was 5 billion, and then Anna gets 4 billion.
[01:01:36] Speaker 2: Oh, I remember you saying. Yeah, and someone, someone gets, it's a, or who gets, I think it was Jake, because of the puppies and the dogs.
[01:01:45] Speaker 1: No, I think it was somebody else. Someone else was getting, like, 900 million of that, and then I, oh, I think, no, I was gonna, no, it was Anna. No, Anna got the 4 billion.
[01:01:56] Speaker 2: No, you said, Anna was getting some, I can't remember. It's either Chip or Jake.
[01:01:59] Speaker 1: I think it was Chip. Was it Chip? Anyways.
[01:02:03] Speaker ?: Anyways.
[01:02:04] Speaker 1: Anyways. I'll go back on the stream to figure out who, who's gonna be, yeah, the 980 million, sorry. I'm only gonna take 20 million. See, I'm not greedy. I give away. I would help out. So, five billion, I take off the shirt, one, what was it, one billion, or was it one million? It was one billion, I take off my shirt and I jump in the water, and then 7,000 for...
[01:02:35] Speaker 2: What's seven billion? Oh, 7,000.
[01:02:38] Speaker 1: 7,000 is singing for 29 seconds.
[01:02:40] Speaker 2: Oh, right, yes.
[01:02:42] Speaker 1: And then, what did we say, 11,000 for a birthday sing-out. So, guys, we gotta figure it out.
[01:02:52] Speaker 2: We're gonna have to put a list together.
[01:02:54] Speaker 1: We'll have to put the list together. The fees. The fees. The fees together. Yes. And it will all mostly go back to animal rights, but I'm gonna also eat some at the restaurants and eat some nice food, so gotta do what you gotta do.
[01:03:07] Speaker 2: Well, you do have to keep it, otherwise you can't do this.
[01:03:08] Speaker 1: A billion per nipple show. That's a bit... Like, you think my nipples are only worth a billion each?
[01:03:18] Speaker 2: It's not cheap, by the way.
[01:03:19] Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, maybe, Miss Teaspoon. Send me... Where's that least? Get somebody to send me the billion, the two billion, and I'll think about it. We'll decide then. We'll have a referendum.
[01:03:37] Speaker 2: We'll have a vote. We'll make a poll.
[01:03:39] Speaker 1: I said a big word.
[01:03:40] Speaker 2: Oh, a referendum. You did?
[01:03:42] Speaker 1: Yeah. Guys, I said a big word. Yeah, I require a retainer. You can send it to Allison. Allison's my bookkeeper.
[01:03:51] Speaker 2: Yes. Allison.
[01:03:53] Speaker 1: Allison is my bookkeeper.
[01:03:55] Speaker 2: Allison is the bookkeeper. Bookkeeper!
[01:04:00] Speaker 1: Yes. Donate to animals. Fur. Agree. PJ is going to donate $10 billion. Imagine it. Wow.
[01:04:10] Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible.
[01:04:11] Speaker 1: That's amazing.
[01:04:12] Speaker 2: Thank you, on David's behalf.
[01:04:14] Speaker 1: Green hearts for PJ, guys. This is what the stream's evolved to. I'm sorry. I'm sorry we were only meant to eat only veggies. Yes, we're only meant to eat plant-based, guys. That's ridiculous. My God says I can save and exploit non-vegans in my basement. Fire. I mean, why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? I mean, the other guy said it was in our nature. Hey, Marissa. Right? It's in your nature. Hey, Marissa. I will donate some happy steaks straight from our farm. You'll love them. Hey, Jackie, how about this? How about you let me full, unadulterated access to your farm 365 days a year? And also, let me follow where you bring the cows, and maybe I'll get a job at the slaughterhouse, and then I'll send you the video of what you do to these poor cows.
[01:05:22] Speaker 2: They couldn't just go with you and watch it themselves?
[01:05:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they don't go into slaughterhouses, right? Oh, that's right. They just take the check. Right. Yeah. Because, yeah.
[01:05:32] Speaker 2: Cowards.
[01:05:39] Speaker 3: My God is the most authoritative source of what is moral and not moral. I am morally allowed to lock non-vegans in my basement.
[01:05:50] Speaker 1: You might want to get some air fresheners down there, Anna.
[01:05:55] Speaker 3: Open some windows. Open some windows.
[01:05:58] Speaker 1: Can you imagine the amount of flesh breath? The secretions that go out of...
[01:06:04] Speaker 2: The stench that would be coming over there.
[01:06:08] Speaker 1: When you say stuff like that, people get so triggered. They get upset. Yeah.
[01:06:14] Speaker 2: Oh, well, deal. Deal.
[01:06:15] Speaker 1: Lambretta is in the house. You got a great spot for me. Okay, Jackie, send me a DM. Send me your address in the DM. And say that I have unfiltered access to your farm. And then because you're such a great farmer, I'm not going to find anything, right? People will love it.
[01:06:44] Speaker 3: We're just like, what the hell?
[01:06:55] Speaker 2: Just like there was no funny.
[01:06:57] Speaker 1: We just, yeah.
[01:07:01] Speaker 2: YouTube, stop being difficult. YouTube, stop being difficult.
[01:07:14] Speaker 1: YouTube hate us.
[01:07:18] Speaker 2: They're like, no, they're getting the message across. We must shut that down.
[01:07:23] Speaker 1: People can do that, you know. Anyways, I won't say anything.
[01:07:27] Speaker 2: That's okay.
[01:07:28] Speaker 1: Martin, are we done? We died.
[01:07:33] Speaker 2: But we came back because we're being.
[01:07:37] Speaker 3: We did. Oh, it went up a bit. The hell.
[01:07:43] Speaker 2: What's going on?
[01:07:47] Speaker 1: Are you there, people? Maybe they're there and we can't see. Oh, oh.
[01:07:53] Speaker 2: Oh, back.
[01:07:55] Speaker 1: Back. Audio to sync. Amazing.
[01:07:59] Speaker 2: Excellent.
[01:08:00] Speaker 1: So happy about that.
[01:08:01] Speaker 2: Yes.
[01:08:02] Speaker 1: Love it.
[01:08:03] Speaker 2: Oh, what's going to be a good one? What did Manavoy say? Probably overheating. Oh, Ben says the phone's probably overheating.
[01:08:18] Speaker 3: No, the phone's fine. What?
[01:08:22] Speaker 2: The chat, do you have to put it back to?
[01:08:23] Speaker 1: No, it stays. It's all messages. Oh, okay. Because I did it originally. There's some people. Oh, audio is good. We're coming back a little bit to life. Had to take our B12. Had to inject it into the phone.
[01:08:36] Speaker 2: Yep.
[01:08:38] Speaker 1: Unfortunately.
[01:08:39] Speaker 2: Got a little protein.
[01:08:40] Speaker 1: The phone lost the B12. So, uh, it's back a little bit. Um, so I'm going to stand here and see if I can maybe convince someone to have a quick conversation. Ohm says it's fine. The trolls went to have their diarrhea. Is that what it said? Oh, their brain rot. Sorry, I thought you meant diarrhea.
[01:09:06] Speaker 2: No volume.
[01:09:07] Speaker 1: Diarrheal.
[01:09:07] Speaker 2: Who's iron? Who's iron? Who's iron? I'm going to say that.
[01:09:10] Speaker 1: Well, usually I wait for confirmation. Yeah. Because some people will just say that. It's worth it. Thank you. Yeah. Iron is iron deficient right now because they eat animals. Um, maybe I'll do the, this is a social experiment.
[01:09:29] Speaker ?: Nope.
[01:09:31] Speaker 1: Nope. Imagine calling a living being a pork chop and then making fun of them on a live stream. They can't defend themselves or do anything about it.
[01:09:47] Speaker 2: There is a guy.
[01:09:48] Speaker 1: People are weak.
[01:09:50] Speaker 2: With this sign. And he's like, who's abusing animals? And I said, well, anyone who's eating them. He's like, who eat? I'm not lying. Who eats animals? I said, well, are you vegan? He's like, no. I said, well, then that's you. I'm like, you. I'm like.
[01:10:06] Speaker 1: So he didn't even know. Guys, this is how. This is like the pork guy. Maybe it's the same guy. Maybe. Maybe he walked by. He's like, I don't eat animals. Even trolls don't know that they're eating animals.
[01:10:21] Speaker 2: That's exactly what he said. This is the reality.
[01:10:25] Speaker 1: Trolls don't know that they're eating animals. Can you imagine? This is how far humanity has come. They've been convinced to eat baby animals. And then they've been convinced that they're not even eating animals. Guys. Insanity.
[01:10:42] Speaker 2: Not even making the connection that his steak is a cow. I'm like, you eat a cow? I'm like, you eat pigs. And he was like, I eat steak.
[01:10:51] Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, anyways, I gotta maybe not do that.
[01:11:03] Speaker 3: What's going on, guys?
[01:11:09] Speaker 2: There is a volleyball tournament going on. So people are rushing from court to court.
[01:11:19] Speaker 1: I, like, this guy here. I don't know why you think. So I worked in Slaughterhouse's Cal, whatever the hell your name is. So you ate a baby animal. So what's your point? Kind of curious, like, what you think you would get out of that. Like, most people are eating animals. Why don't you, like, have some nuance or talk about something else? Like, why you hate animals.
[01:11:50] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[01:11:53] Speaker 1: You guys think of the sign.
[01:11:57] Speaker 2: I'll be a vegetarian. You're a vegetarian? Yeah.
[01:12:01] Speaker 1: Vegan next, okay?
[01:12:02] Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Oh, drop dairy. Wow. It's the most cruel industry.
[01:12:06] Speaker 1: That's what this sign's about, my guy.
[01:12:09] Speaker ?: I know.
[01:12:12] Speaker 1: Vegetarian. People scream at vegans for, like, churchy and conventions. Oh, hey, Stephen. Yeah, they do. I had, um, I was holding a sign at Fearman's Slaughterhouse. Hey, Stephen. Good to see you. And, um, this guy, he fucking crashed into the curb because he wanted to tell me that, um, what was it, I love bacon. I also had a guy turn his car around from the other side of the street, drive it around like a maniac, pretend he was going to drive towards me. And this was caught on, some of it was caught on live, and he, he wanted to tell me to get a job. Get a job! And I got it on slow-mo on my video, so. That's awesome. I should dox this guy.
[01:13:06] Speaker 2: That's a lot of effort to, like, to come back home later.
[01:13:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, like, he was, like, the guy's probably going to work, picture this, like, whatever. But he had to come around, drive a bunch of lanes of traffic, illegally, turn around, try to scare me, and then say that, but then drive all the way back and probably have to turn around and do the same thing over.
[01:13:29] Speaker 2: And then he's late for work, probably. And then, why were you late for work? Ooh, I had to go tell this guy. I had to tell this guy to get a job.
[01:13:37] Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
[01:13:38] Speaker 2: And meanwhile, the guy's like, well, you're late. You're fired. Go stand with that guy.
[01:13:43] Speaker 1: Get a job. It's like the trolls in here, right? It's like, this guy's like, I ate baby calf. He probably doesn't even know what he's talking about. The guy can't even probably tie his shoes. And so, like, what do you guys think? You agree with the sign?
[01:14:02] Speaker 3: Sorry, sir, my English is not okay.
[01:14:03] Speaker 1: No.
[01:14:04] Speaker 3: That's the thing.
[01:14:04] Speaker 1: Oh, okay. That's all right. Of course, they're probably not even Canadian, and they're the only ones that will talk. You want to eat calf in front of a room of vegans. Why, though?
[01:14:22] Speaker 2: You know how weird that is? And you really think, like...
[01:14:26] Speaker 1: Like, but what would...
[01:14:28] Speaker 2: We would just point and laugh at you.
[01:14:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what is...
[01:14:31] Speaker 2: Maybe give you a good smack. Who knows?
[01:14:33] Speaker 1: What is the... Ooh! Is this like a...
[01:14:39] Speaker 2: I've never seen this before.
[01:14:40] Speaker 1: A flex? Is that what he's trying to do? Is that a flex or something?
[01:14:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, very weak. Very weak.
[01:14:50] Speaker 1: Ooh! Ooh! You can pick on individuals...
[01:14:53] Speaker 3: You kill holy cow?
[01:14:55] Speaker 1: You pick on individuals... People that can't defend themselves. Wow. They're just so tough. Now he's crashing out. Yeah. Right? With the spam. Oh, people. I tell you. So guys, one in the chat if you're vegan. Two, if you're someone who's open-minded to change. Three, if you're like that guy saying whatever the heck it is he said there. Also, guys, hit the like button. And also subscribe. What the hell if you're not subscribed. And turn on the notification bell. What do you guys think of the sign? That guy's like, what the heck is going on there?
[01:15:48] Speaker 2: It's just a big wave of weed just came back.
[01:15:52] Speaker 1: I think people are like... I think maybe there's a lot of people that are fucking baked out here, man. That's all I smell out here. Maybe that's why we're laughing so much. Secondhand doobage.
[01:16:06] Speaker 2: So... Oh, never mind.
[01:16:09] Speaker 1: You should be able to defend yourself. Well, children can't defend themselves, right? But we still protect them. What I'm saying is like, if you're going to pick on someone, pick on someone who can defend themselves. Simple as that. Don't be a bully, right? Missing out on what? Be polite. What am I missing out on? I'm an ex-agriculture inspector. I worked in slaughterhouses. I ate animals most of my life. I'm not missing out on rotten corpses being dipped in chlorine baths with chemicals and rotten fucking rigamortis. No, thank you. You're missing out by not exploiting others. You think you think you're governed by your taste pleasure and anything can happen to these animals and you're okay with that. Anything. Even including taking their life for your trivial pleasure. So your whole life is attributed to your addiction, fetish, to the animals that you're eating. I had to say fetish once because I got to shout out the other J.
[01:17:32] Speaker 3: What the fuck is this guy talking about?
[01:17:39] Speaker 1: And then he retracted it? Bro, there's some, there's some freaking weird individuals, isn't there? What do you guys think?
[01:17:52] Speaker 6: I just don't want to deal with that.
[01:18:12] Speaker 1: You do, you moral hypocrite, be pro-abortion and vegan. Chris, Chris, so you don't know what my opinion is on abortion because I have nothing to do. Like this is a vegan, like we're talking about veganism here. There are other channels that talk about abortion. But Chris, if you care so much about pregnancy, then why are you paying for animals that are pregnant to be sent to slaughter?
[01:18:44] Speaker 2: And being forced to be pregnant.
[01:18:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Having their bodily autonomy taken away from them. It's kind of a weird thing to say.
[01:18:52] Speaker ?: Yeah.
[01:18:53] Speaker 1: What do you guys think of this sign? Do you agree? No? No. Can you tell me why?
[01:19:05] Speaker 7: Because it's inhumane.
[01:19:07] Speaker 1: It's inhumane, yeah. Yeah. So this is, I'm just saying this as a statement. Because I believe most people are actually, whether they know it or not, actually paying for this to happen.
[01:19:19] Speaker ?: With what?
[01:19:20] Speaker 1: So, do you know what veganism is? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so most people are paying for animals to be exploited because they're eating them. So if you're not vegan, then the logical connection is that you are paying for this and that you would agree with this sign. Yeah.
[01:19:37] Speaker 8: Yeah? The thing is a lot of times we can't really, like, control it anymore because, like, both my parents are vegan. So I'm very, like, like, I've been around this situation a lot. But the thing is, like, since we're so deep into, like, this system where, like, we just get meat, like, sento and, like, animals are getting slaughtered. Like, it sucks. But at the same time, like, a lot of people that are just used to eating meat, like, what are we supposed to do? Move out to, like, I would rather do that. I'd rather eat, like, meat that's, like, because I like eating meat. But I'd rather move somewhere where, like, I'm getting something that's, like, meat that's getting treated nice.
[01:20:23] Speaker 1: Well, can I just say something? So you're calling them meat, right, when they're an individual, right? And you mentioned that your parents are, well, it's true, right? They're not, they're not not an individual.
[01:20:35] Speaker 8: Yeah, they're not an animal, but, like, I still, that's the type of diet that I choose.
[01:20:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like, what we're talking about is the individuals themselves because they have their own interests, right? And you mentioned that your parents were vegan. Yeah. And so, like, you know that you could live vegan. So what would be the justification for exploiting animals and abusing them when you don't have to?
[01:20:59] Speaker 8: You know, this thing is an argument I have all the time with my parents, so there's no end to this conversation.
[01:21:06] Speaker 7: I feel like I could potentially...
[01:21:07] Speaker 1: But that's not really an argument, though.
[01:21:09] Speaker 7: I feel like I could potentially... Wait, hold on. I feel like I could potentially be going maybe vegetarian or vegan if I perhaps moved to a place where there's not, like, a mass production of meat where people are pushing you towards fast food options and where the meat is so...
[01:21:26] Speaker 8: Yeah, but they're on the other side where it's already, like, they just, like...
[01:21:28] Speaker 1: But would you say it's an injustice to the animals, though?
[01:21:31] Speaker 7: I would. I know. I actually struggle with this every day because I am, like, a huge empath, but I do eat meat. And I'm, like, this is crazy because, like, last week I was like, maybe I should switch. Yeah. But honestly, what is stopping me right now is just financial freedom. I feel like when I have financial freedom, then I'll be able to choose where my money is going towards and I can make that, like, jump.
[01:21:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you do agree with the ethics of it. And I could definitely provide you some resources to show you that you can live, whether you're in a situation right now or in the future. Definitely it's very easy to be like his parents are. So I just want to also point out that I'm an ex-slaughterhouse inspector. My whole family worked in animal agriculture. My grandparents immigrated from Portugal. So most of the workers, they actually come from, like, different places, from war-torn countries, people that are suffering. So it's not like everyday normal people that are college-educated or educated in the sense that they have different choices. They're taking children, immigrants, refugees, and all these people are being put into these and they're being exploited. PTSD, drug-alcohol addiction, increased violent crime rates, including sexual assault, happen as a result of slaughterhouses, as a result of what we're paying for, our choices. So I was diagnosed with PTSD three years ago. And it's no wonder, right, because mother cows are being shot in the face. They're having their necks slit all day long. And people are seeing this. Babies are being cut out of these animals.
[01:23:02] Speaker 7: What do you, do you guys have, like, resources and things that we could be maybe contributing to or donating or even conditions?
[01:23:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a card that you can look at and it definitely, do you have the cards, actually?
[01:23:14] Speaker 7: No, I don't.
[01:23:15] Speaker 1: Or did you give them out? I think I might have one more. Oh, no, it's that one. Yeah, so like I said, like, regardless, so this is to get involved. I don't know if I have the other card, but this will still bring you to where it would be cool to go. So it's just, like, what you're paying for does have bigger consequences. And the individuals, the animals, they don't have a choice in the matter, right? You know, just because they're born in a different species, a different body, just because we can do it, just because, you know, we don't have, like, this accountability. Can you imagine if you were in their position?
[01:23:53] Speaker 7: No, honestly, I saw a video that came up on my social media and I did start crying. It's honestly disgusting. I wish there was a way where we could potentially be eating meat, but not contributing to that kind of abuse.
[01:24:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, but, like, even at the end of the day, if you could, and you have other options, right?
[01:24:13] Speaker 7: I mean, the first thing is they do want to eat meat, but the way that they do it is completely different.
[01:24:18] Speaker 1: That's okay.
[01:24:19] Speaker 7: They have a completely different way of eating meat and how they eat.
[01:24:22] Speaker 1: Well, you can talk to someone who's indigenous right here, right? Yeah, it's a completely different way. She's vegan, right? Yeah. And so, like, the unfortunate thing is, like, and I'm not saying you're doing this, but we use other cultures and other issues to kind of justify what we're doing. Like, justify it. Yeah, so, like, maybe not the best, but, again, it comes down to necessity, right? And at the end of the day, is it necessary? Does it have to happen? No. And I would argue that we are very lucky. Look at where we are, right? We're lucky in a sense that we don't have to worry about these things. And, again, like, I mentioned the workers just because it sounds like people just think that, oh, you know, it's just one thing that's happening. There is no ideal way. If we start viewing the most innocent and vulnerable with kindness and respect, we'll live in a much better world. Yeah, I don't know what I'm saying.
[01:25:14] Speaker ?: I agree.
[01:25:15] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, thank you guys for doing this. Yeah, so I'll just get you a car. Can I give you that? Yeah, yeah, of course.
[01:25:21] Speaker 2: Yep.
[01:25:22] Speaker 1: I'm just going to give you a car.
[01:25:23] Speaker 2: Thank you for the conversation. Yeah, no, of course.
[01:25:28] Speaker 1: And this is on the 40-year-old vegan. So, like I said, I can't even spell. Like I said, vegan for 12 years. I worked in the industry for so long. And I saw nothing but horrific things. Yeah, I can't even imagine. And imagine if, like, you know, your country's in war, for example. And then you flew over to a foreign country and they're like, here's the job you're doing.
[01:25:58] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[01:25:59] Speaker 1: It's like you're moving from one war to another.
[01:26:01] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[01:26:01] Speaker 1: And those are the people doing that, right? So, yeah.
[01:26:04] Speaker 7: That's actually, I've never really thought about that. But, yeah, this is opening my viewpoint a little bit. It's not just the animals. It's also the people working with that and witnessing that every single day. So, yeah, 100%.
[01:26:17] Speaker 1: Great. Thank you. What's your name?
[01:26:19] Speaker 7: Louise.
[01:26:19] Speaker 1: Louise, I'm David.
[01:26:20] Speaker 7: Nice to meet you. It's a pleasure to meet you as well. What's your name? Angela. Angela. Nice to meet you too. Thank you for the conversation. Thank you.
[01:26:27] Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Bye.
[01:26:28] Speaker 7: Have a good afternoon.
[01:26:32] Speaker 1: Wow. She was incredible.
[01:26:34] Speaker 2: Her boyfriend's pretty kissy.
[01:26:36] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[01:26:36] Speaker 2: He didn't even want her to have that conversation. I know.
[01:26:39] Speaker 1: He was trying to pull her away as if he owned her or something. She's great, though. Yeah. I really appreciate people that, in despite of, like, you know, even someone trying to push you away, that they're willing to engage and have a good conversation. And I feel like she'll change. I feel like he probably just lost a lot of points. And I don't believe, I believe.
[01:27:05] Speaker 2: His parents are vegan.
[01:27:06] Speaker 1: I believe they're probably, I'm going to guess they're just, like, vegetarian or plant-based, kind of, like, you know, like, and maybe, I don't know, maybe, maybe he's, like, you know, in that phase where he's just trying to, like, go against his parents or something. But she was awesome. Like, I love people who can think through these things logically. And, of course, I don't necessarily always want to bring up the human rights. But he, I could tell by what he was saying. And this was almost more to him that I knew he could give a shit about the animals. Like, how could you, like, be that way? But I could tell.
[01:27:44] Speaker 2: Oh, I thought they were.
[01:27:45] Speaker 1: And so maybe they were. So I thought I would explain that and just completely ignore him and make him stay there as long as possible, which maybe it was more to talk with her. But I wanted him to hear that as well because I thought, yeah. And then she was, like, yeah, I didn't really think about those things. So, yeah. I thought that was, like, the best conversation we could have had outside of this guy saying that his, yeah. This guy, Callahan, is just continuing to spam a lot and cry in the chat.
[01:28:23] Speaker 2: What's wrong with him?
[01:28:24] Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he's, oh, he's at his mom's house with you. He's at his mom's house with you. Okay.
[01:28:32] Speaker 2: With who?
[01:28:33] Speaker 3: You?
[01:28:33] Speaker 1: Emma, this person here. Amore. Amore is, and the guy are at their mom's house or something. Oh, they're two guys. With Callahan, with Liam. Yeah. Liam, Amore, and Callahan are all at, they're in the basements at their mom's house. Well, we know you guys aren't together because trolls just live in the basement, right? No offense to, like, actual, like, cartoon trolls. You guys are pretty cool, but real-life trolls, kind of boring. Yeah. Kind of lame.
[01:29:05] Speaker 2: You're social.
[01:29:06] Speaker 1: At least you got a job. Yeah. Guys, don't aim for retirement. Because that's a, please don't aim for retirement. Yeah. You need a crack rock. Well, they got some rocks over here. Um, you can go lay on the rock on the beach.
[01:29:34] Speaker 3: Look at, get a life, you vegan whore.
[01:29:37] Speaker 2: Oh, wait.
[01:29:41] Speaker 3: Hey, Callahan.
[01:29:42] Speaker 2: Calm down.
[01:29:44] Speaker 1: While you're having a, while you're having a stroke over there. Um.
[01:29:48] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[01:29:50] Speaker 1: Oh, my. I almost want to keep you around for entertainment, but I think I'm going to give you a little time out, buddy.
[01:29:56] Speaker 2: I'm going to start calling you a whore.
[01:29:57] Speaker 1: Is that okay? You little, little guy, little feelings are hurt. I'm going to give you a five minute little time out there, Callahan.
[01:30:05] Speaker 2: Think about what you're doing, what you're saying.
[01:30:10] Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I actually do have more cards in my backpack.
[01:30:14] Speaker 2: I have a few from Friday in my bag. I put one in my pocket just in here.
[01:30:20] Speaker 1: You vegan whore. That's a new one. I'm going to add it to the.
[01:30:23] Speaker 2: But in caps even.
[01:30:26] Speaker 1: Uh, my job? Um, that's none of your business, Liam. That's personal. Um, I'm retired, Liam. Hey. Have a nice outreach. Much love. Kale. Kale in the house. Guys, Kale is. You know, you talk about outreachers and people that are just incredible. Uh, Kale on Discord.
[01:30:52] Speaker 2: Is that CallMeKale? Or is that, oh, Kale.
[01:30:54] Speaker 1: Uh, not CallMeKale, no, no. Kale on Discord. So, I can't remember what your name, your handle is there. Something like, uh, eating. Something about beans or something. Um, one of the best, uh, outreachers I, I've been, come, or, or, had the privilege to eat. Yeah. Kale does a terrific job.
[01:31:20] Speaker 2: Uh, thank you.
[01:31:21] Speaker 1: Answer me, vegan. If I turn vega, can I still smoke crack? I'm trying to change here. Well, um, that's not what veganism is. Uh, so, like, whether you smoke crack or you don't, um, that really doesn't have anything to do with what veganism is. Unless if it's exploiting animals somehow. So, veganism is, like, the idea of rejecting animal exploitation, not using them, not viewing them as commodities, uh, not, uh, watching them in a zoo, taking a selfie. All these things.
[01:32:02] Speaker 2: You need to change your name to the 40-year-old vegan whore. Yeah.
[01:32:06] Speaker 1: What do you think, my guy? What do you think of the sign?
[01:32:11] Speaker 6: Oh, sorry.
[01:32:12] Speaker 1: What do you think of the sign?
[01:32:16] Speaker 6: Oh, no.
[01:32:17] Speaker 1: No? Disagree?
[01:32:18] Speaker 6: I, I disagree. Yeah, why? Because I have a dog. I love, I love animals.
[01:32:22] Speaker 1: You have a dog and you love animals? Yeah. Yeah, so this is more like a statement than actually, I don't believe this either. I think animals should be treated with respect, uh, dignity, uh, because it's in their best interests. Yeah.
[01:32:36] Speaker 6: Do you agree? I do agree, you know, because I don't know why animal costs so much money and then put everybody, like, more, you know? Animal is like a baby. Yeah. And go and make it, you know, I believe in God, I believe in Jesus Christ.
[01:32:52] Speaker 1: So, you, so you think we should respect animals?
[01:32:55] Speaker 6: Oh, definitely. We should put more money, save them in the States, save them with user, family members, because people love to abuse the animal. They love to, like, get it and then when something happened to them, take it out, you know, I'm from Trinidad. Okay. So, we see a whole bunch of animals getting abused, killed. You see, oh. It's just the bad thing.
[01:33:19] Speaker 1: That's got to be tough to see. Yeah. And so, like, have you always felt this way about animals?
[01:33:25] Speaker 6: Always? I never have some, like, a family member or, like, somebody who, like, more, like, logical thinking.
[01:33:34] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[01:33:34] Speaker 6: Telling me, hey, you should not do that. Or, like, chose stone. I used to, like, you know, I did wrong when I was in Trinidad. Like that, because I was so young, trying to, like, little cat, whatever. And I'm like, this is wrong. Why I don't have somebody teaching me what's right and wrong? Right. And a lot of people don't know, you know? Sure.
[01:33:56] Speaker 1: So, I'm going to bring it to a different area. Do you know what veganism is?
[01:34:01] Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:34:02] Speaker 1: And what are your thoughts on veganism?
[01:34:07] Speaker 6: Both. I do believe it. I did it once when I was on diet. I'm going to eat one meal a day, you know? And I don't believe it is in between. I believe in between.
[01:34:20] Speaker 1: Okay. And so, let me ask. So, you did for diet. Yeah. So, like, a lot of people will maybe do things for diet, and maybe more self-interest, right? Like, I can see you work out and stuff like that. But, so, the way I view veganism is, is just not about exploiting others, right? Yeah. Not using others against their own interests. Yeah. And so, like, do you agree that you can live vegan, that it's possible?
[01:34:47] Speaker 6: You can, because I only eat one meal a day. Okay. Yeah, I don't eat the beef and thing. And I, you know, maybe, like, when I eat one meal a day, you can live on, like, you know, like, eggs and the, you know, certain stuff.
[01:34:59] Speaker 1: Well, calories in, right? Calories in. Yeah, yeah.
[01:35:02] Speaker 6: You know, all that food to, like, all that meat. Yeah.
[01:35:04] Speaker 1: And you're a big guy, right? Yeah. So, you agree that there's, there's vegan athletes, people your size, and then you can get jacked and all that.
[01:35:12] Speaker 6: Because everybody thinks I eat six meals. Yeah. And I only fast 24 hours. I only eat one meal. One meal a day. Yeah. You know, my salad and my thing. Awesome. Yeah. I don't believe in the burgers and all them things and hot dogs. Processed stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:35:28] Speaker 1: If, if I was able to provide you with some resources that were, like, a meal plan or something like that, as well as, like, a dietician for free, would it be something to consider moving away from exploiting animals?
[01:35:44] Speaker 6: I believe. Yeah, I think so, you know.
[01:35:47] Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, cool. I'm going to give you a card. I just got to take out my backpack and get that for you. But I appreciate you stopping in. And I appreciate you acknowledging that the animals shouldn't be exploited and that we can move away from it. We could. And I've been vegan for 12 years myself. Yeah. A number of the people in my chat, maybe much longer. Yeah. I know people born vegan. I know people of baby vegans, you know. Yeah. The whole thing, right? Yeah. And I know athletes that are vegan. Yeah. Most importantly for maybe you. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, so I'll give you some information. Uh, just give me one second here, uh, while I'm, uh, adjusting here. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:36:23] Speaker ?: Awesome. Yeah.
[01:36:25] Speaker 3: Awesome.
[01:36:34] Speaker 1: It's here somewhere.
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[01:36:47] Speaker 1: I should have done this earlier, but did I? Oh, I have the pen. So, um, from Trinidad you said? Yeah, Trinidad. Nice. Cool. Enjoying the beach?
[01:37:01] Speaker 6: I love it. Yes. You need to be hot all year round. I don't, I don't enjoy the cold water, like the cold, like the weather. Oh, I'm with you, man.
[01:37:12] Speaker 1: I just, I don't like it.
[01:37:13] Speaker 6: Nine months is making me depressed. I'm with you. Cause, cause that's what it is. Yeah.
[01:37:18] Speaker 1: It's like, we, it's like we were frozen for how long and then. Yeah.
[01:37:23] Speaker 6: And then you only have like 10 days and you're like, you're like, okay. I understand what my mom tried to do. Take me off to that environment. Make a better life. I'm so depressed because I eat one meal. So I need something to like walk or do something, you know?
[01:37:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, so this is going to provide you. So there's going to be a documentary here to show you what happens with the animals. Okay. It's a three minute movie challenge. It's just three minutes. Okay. And then there's going to be other documentaries, but there's also going to be, there's two things. So there's challenge 22. I don't really have access to the animal justice 21, but challenge 22 will give you a, put you in a group where they can provide you free meal plans, swap out the meat products for the plant based products. And then you're living in alignment. And then maybe cause you're a big dude. Maybe you can show people that we can be empathetic and jacked at the same time.
[01:38:17] Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, people don't listen to me. Yeah. When I'm trying to tell them. Yeah. I'm like, Oh, how you get it? Yeah. How you still can live 600 with no food? and you know yeah it's just hot is you know if I can help one person it's better
[01:38:33] Speaker 1: than you know yeah a lot of people are closed-minded any country them all is
[01:38:41] Speaker 6: saying oh why you don't eat this why don't drink this way yeah it's discipline like I understand it really is yeah yeah yeah yeah you want this only when I eat the one meal I don't worry I don't try to stay out from so you do like it's a it's
[01:38:58] Speaker 1: the 20 was a 20 hours 24 hour one meal a day 24 I used to do that yeah and I loved
[01:39:06] Speaker 6: it I thought it's really great I just don't put too much meat I don't believe in chicken all of that too much yeah if I'm think others pretty solid now you're
[01:39:16] Speaker 1: gonna be plant-based yeah only one thing once I just take out one thing and do me a favor watch game changers and also there's vegan athletes go and follow them yeah because then maybe you can join our little crew okay yeah awesome okay so
[01:39:31] Speaker 6: great to meet you yeah my name is Chucky Chucky yeah David David David all right thank you Chucky I hope you get I hope you can yeah yeah absolutely if the world change it'll be better do it go all around the world and the kids will start young and everybody will like you know have a different man I believe in 90 fitness industry none of that bodybuilding thing because then comes to all that meat and all that stuff I don't believe in all of that fitness industry yeah I try to stay away from that because they must eat all of that do this you know don't care you
[01:40:12] Speaker 1: yeah it's it's a product by this diet by that and I stopped buying all of that and
[01:40:17] Speaker 6: I realize that it's like they don't care about the animals and then no care about the like how to save the nature and everything yeah it's all about like consuming and doing what I want to do yeah I travel I'm sick in my stomach with them eat it all-exclusive and then don't have the discipline to stay away from it yeah treat him you know yeah yeah exactly God bless all you thank you thank you I
[01:40:43] Speaker 1: appreciate you have a lovely day you too awesome nice to meet you damn that was good really good conversation he's amazing great guy oh yeah yeah that was great he was really empathetic and you know I think there's sometimes a way you can go with conversations like like he had said he eaten animals and I could have maybe at that point said well then you agree with the sign or I could have said you know maybe is it something you considered you know what veganism is inquire asking questions it's sort of like the sort of what we do with the we the free is like we want to ask some question a lot of questions questions questions because then they can have these resolved you know like rather than them always having these questions oh can I get enough this that or the other why not just like figure that out with them spend the time with them give them the space because a lot of times people will really only come to the conclusions that they want to come to but if you can just spread that little bit of information in there and help them out I think helping them out is a little bit better sometimes Jason's back he he got some raspberries we just had a good conversation Jason oh my camera's dead that sucks that means this one is too isn't it ah oh well didn't get that one on camera probably didn't get the last one either but that's okay I just have to change it some batteries what's up guys we are at the beach obviously on the boardwalk talking to people about veganism and it's been great why should non-vegans eat a vegan diet if they hate it for no reason what do you mean Tracy so we're looking at the individuals and what's in their interest right if if someone wanted to eat me it's not in my interest to have that happen so plants feel pain oh we we did go through that on the last dream so we did that earlier we were gonna have we can we can show you here we were gonna have a funeral earlier this was on the boardwalk so I'm sorry I'm triggering the chat but this is I should have given a warning so what warning guys this isn't for the faint of heart this fell off a tree and so I know I know for the plant rights people I know it's triggering but we need to talk about this so did you
[01:43:37] Speaker 2: know that there's a city I think it was two weeks ago in Quebec I heard yeah the
[01:43:42] Speaker 1: the sentience thing so what happened oh sorry I'm talking to the plant so so what happened to you oh you aren't sentient oh you aren't even alive oh okay oh what so I'm kind of curious to the the sentience people in the chat that care more about plants than they do the animal that is sent to slaughter that consumes far more plants than then what vegans do but I'm just curious to to them what do they do in the fall do they just do they put on blindfolds are they scared of the leaves falling down do they feel that does that hurt them do they seek therapy do they talk to a psychologist a psychiatrist what do you do in the fall because I need to prepare now that I know that now that I know these things I'm a little bit afraid guys I just green hearts exactly green hearts let's see some more green hearts for the plant that we just buried here save the leaf save the leaf will be maybe the new campaign maybe I should just have a sign
[01:44:58] Speaker 2: that says save the leaf so he agrees with veganism or had the sign upside down yes green hearts love it
[01:45:12] Speaker 1: guys love it one second for no oh no no no like the the juice yeah sorry guys it's hard to see in the chat sometimes the leaf died tragically I know what's your favorite kind of meat plant-based of course we're not monsters we don't hate animals guys we're almost up to a hundred likes let's get that up there to a hundred you guys can do it it's like sober vegan in the house hey all loud yesterday we we did two protests yesterday one was a fur and one was a flag it up wag it up and anyways got to do what you got to do that's what we're doing as vegans we're trying to change the world for the animals shut
[01:46:15] Speaker 2: one store down for the rest of the day and then went and had a conversation mm-hmm yep hunting leaves
[01:46:27] Speaker 1: despicable it is yeah what do you think of the sign my guy do you agree yeah vegan steaks for the w green hearts for vegan steaks guys yes home let's go green hearts for the vegan steaks let's go vegan meatloaf let's go green hearts one in the chat if you're vegan two two of your open-minded and once again we are at the beach if you couldn't tell there's a boardwalk and a beach and we are talking to people we're asking them this question or we're implying that not implying what am I saying here I can't even use my think box you're asking them if it's okay to abuse animals
[01:47:39] Speaker 2: for pleasure if it's fine and that's what I'm doing yes and if they disagree with this then they have to be vegan and if they're not vegan then they obviously agree with abusing animals I mean that's what happens
[01:47:56] Speaker 1: if you're eating them you're abusing them well you're paying for it right exactly you're paying for animals to be exploited and this this is what happens as a result nice green hearts guys let's go blue jays I agree open-minded wouldn't choose meats or plants because we are to eat both Harold what's wrong with you Harold you know you can live vegan you know you don't have to pay for animals to be exploited abused confined uses resources as clothing as entertainment come on Harold it's 2026 it's time to stop living in the stone ages live vegan and hit that like button Harold double tap the screen what are you waiting for oh jeez there's some weird comments again as usual it's always weird comments you can watch a human
[01:48:59] Speaker 2: animal porn online what I just in the wrong place yeah we don't need we don't need people like that in
[01:49:09] Speaker 1: so guys also um if you're a vegan channel uh if you're a content creator uh put a one in the chat let people know and everyone please go over and subscribe to their channels we're trying to grow all the channels so we can have all the vegans out and uh reach a heart a larger audience and stuff like that uh we got a bunch of channels in here look at this look at the channels in here check out tado's
[01:49:42] Speaker 2: stream he is incredible he does drumming streams which are fantastic he does outreach he does it um he rides uh tado i'm not even sure what it's called but he's one wheeling all over and it's amazing it's really cool go check him out that's tado and uh yeah he's he's incredible yes love his streams
[01:50:14] Speaker 1: who the wants to eat grass fuck that give me a cheeseburger james james who the wants to eat a mother cow that's ridiculous and when you eat that burger uh how many strands of dna are in there dude like why would you want to do that to an innocent cow that just was living their life that wanted to live that didn't want to be tortured didn't want to be brought to a slaughterhouse slide around in their feces with their friends and family why do you hate mammals bro all for your sick little pleasure i think um callahan is is callahan are you having a stroke you keep seeing the same thing over and over maybe yeah i think callahan's had a stroke maybe if we put callahan just in a little time out there he can calm down a bit maybe or we don't want him to have one right yeah we don't want him uh joe i don't know if you think that's a flex you don't have to abuse abuse animals torture them confine them for your fucking sandwich um oh jason wants to know how much cancer is in the food supply well jason i mean if you want me to get into that guys so quite literally most of the job of the people working on the line is to be cutting out different portions of the animal so they don't go into your yap so things like uh tumors different types of cancers ascites cellulitis um oh my god there's a whole list of different uh diseases that the animals do have often so rather than uh throw the whole corpse out they will cut they will cut like so the body that you're eating like say it's full of cellulitis the cellulitis as long as the body is cut in a way that gets all the cellulitis out or so you think then can go back into the food chain it's the same with feces so when i started every animal that had on them would be thrown out and sent to your animals so they could suffer the consequences of the consequences of eating intestines with tumors in them or having cancers or uh on their bodies and put into chlorine bats and then rendering facilities right um but the when when i was working they they didn't allow that to go into your food chain until i think it was like 2003 when they decided that they were going to move to a faster line speed have less inspectors uh and do random sampling so what had happened was they also brought in a wash so um they would put the poor corpses on this wash and try to flush all the feces out so imagine um wet diarrhea embedded into skin this would just be washed out and then thrown into a big chlorinated bath and then that would go to the public um so they would also have chemicals sprays to try to kill the pathogens and that's what you would eat the animal who was uh basically a frankenstein animal so bred into existence uh as as and fed as as much as possible given copious amounts of drugs uh selectively bred to grow uh like so big anything natural would ever conceive of like like like if you look at the guinea fowl in the early 1900s they're nothing like the animals that we have now like all the animals you eat are not like of the animals that were eaten maybe back then or or they're not even ancestors i would say like um so anyways my point is you're eating frankenstein babies that have pathogens and potentially diseases parasites that you can't see i mean it's not like all the individuals are examined they're on high speed lines and you're eating that shit so i hope that answers your question jason absolutely disgusting
[01:55:00] Speaker 3: muslim can keep your wife okay all right all right i guess a muslim have four wives apparently
[01:55:13] Speaker 1: good luck yeah i look nuts apparently thank you how do you determine if someone looks nuts though what's the threshold there i don't know um because that wouldn't that be like a um like one person could say that someone does look nuts and someone could say that they don't but that's still like uh
[01:55:39] Speaker 2: isn't that ableist maybe if they have like crazy eyes or something like really shifty eyes
[01:55:44] Speaker 1: yeah but even if they have crazy eyes maybe they're not crazy maybe they're the smartest person in the room right but apparently people look crazy how do you know them how do i know what you look like
[01:55:59] Speaker 2: oh maybe they're looking in a mirror oh
[01:56:04] Speaker 1: yeah if you come over to the stream i know you're just listening to the stream um you're looking in the mirror in your camera uh just come back to the stream you're just looking at yourself you don't have to call yourself crazy though don't be so hard on yourself be kinder oh look at another account ah number two hey but you know what um oh my gosh if if sabby was here now i know oh so we don't need like pervy people here like this guy bye enjoy your life like what i feel like there's i don't know if it's a mosquito or i know someone i like how it went to 103 likes and then it went down to yeah what happened there i think it's uh oh it's because oh it's it's it's what trolls do yeah yeah right yeah like imagine now it's 99. oh your feelings hurt yeah yeah this is like also a therapy session uh we're trying to um like we're the only ones that like have to deal with these people so we're trying to help like that's what vegans do we're pretty nice people we try to help so we would try to help the trolls a little bit help them try to realize that they are trolls and they maybe don't understand what that means and how
[01:57:48] Speaker 2: people look at that yeah and maybe try they can figure out what's missing yeah you know or what should be missing to make them better and i'm really considering having like a short stream on spelling you know like what was it uh hooked on fox maybe do something like maybe maybe that'll help yeah i just
[01:58:12] Speaker 1: don't know i mean the omni king oh yeah that guy the so omni king if you ever watch this omni king you are such a coward such a coward can't even can't even debate vegan gays oh i'm scared to debate a girl can't even debate uh vegan gays i'm scared to debate women oh my god i can't do that uh omni king is just a a little baby cry he he makes all these videos and cries about uh vegans
[01:58:49] Speaker 2: what was that oh someone's i don't know he said you're not awful and i'll give you one so i don't
[01:58:55] Speaker 1: know what that was so weird like these sexual references these are clearly people that don't have uh like who talks like that where did it go oh martin delete it yeah martin's on it martin it's got it covered yes uh michigan nice i love michigan northern michigan's great i'm a red wings fan too so
[01:59:37] Speaker 2: that's nice that's nice that's great one of my favorite players played for the wings yeah who's
[01:59:44] Speaker 1: that federoff oh federoff was yeah 91 the legend yeah that was my uh field across number yeah it was uh uh these days we're a little bit struggling because larkin is like who knows what's happening with him but however my team we'll see i know you're a habs fan i know i remember hearing you talk about the the habs i mean they look pretty good i you know one thing i think they should do they got to stock up on some maybe bigger players yeah they're i think they're the
[02:00:19] Speaker 2: smallest like the smallest like smallest team in the nhl yeah but i mean they're great i mean
[02:00:27] Speaker 1: it's probably because saint louis you know he's he's got the biggest legs though in the world but anyways we're talking sports yeah hi what do you think of the sign
[02:00:39] Speaker 4: okay no no why not because it's wrong yes why and is it okay to abuse animals for pleasure no
[02:00:50] Speaker 1: it's not okay to abuse animals for pleasure it's not okay to abuse it's not but why why do you say
[02:00:55] Speaker 4: that though because little cruelty is not okay and i don't support it yeah and can you think can you
[02:01:03] Speaker 1: think of ways where society says they don't want animals to be abused but maybe by what they pay for
[02:01:12] Speaker 4: i think i know where you're going with this like food yeah yeah like chicken and stuff and and like
[02:01:17] Speaker 1: i would say entertainment and clothing yes like clothing like ingredients and cosmetics or like um skin care yeah yeah yeah yeah so so do you know what veganism is yes and um is it something you've ever
[02:01:34] Speaker 4: considered um like as in skin care products i do use vegan skin care so like yeah i've considered it but
[02:01:45] Speaker 1: um but other than that no i don't no no and and has it would it be something you could ever consider
[02:01:53] Speaker 4: um it really depends like i don't disagree with it so i don't see any harm in that but i mean yeah what
[02:02:04] Speaker 1: about the animal's perspective have you ever thought of that um i mean like yeah like i don't know like
[02:02:13] Speaker 4: kind of put you on the spot yeah yeah no no it's okay it's okay no i know a lot of my friends are
[02:02:18] Speaker 1: vegan so okay yeah i get their point so then then you know you can live yeah and be healthy on a plant-based diet yes yeah and so so like when i mentioned the individual so like do you think um what do you think when they go through something like say this situation like maybe they're being driven to the slaughterhouse what do you think their experience is like well okay so as you can tell
[02:02:41] Speaker 4: i'm muslim yeah so like for us um we do like a special like yes hello meet like that's what we do so we do like a special like prayer over the um animals so they don't feel any pain yeah if that makes sense do you think that they don't feel pain honestly that's everybody's beliefs are different yeah and i get that so if you don't agree with me that's totally fine like i won't take any can i tell you
[02:03:06] Speaker 1: i'm an ex-slaughterhouse inspector so one of my roles was to watch over halal slaughter and so i would heavily argue against that it does but but let's say let's say that you know that's the case that you can pray so when we we both know it's not mandatory to get into heaven right we agree there and so like and also like some of the deeds you can do are like giving you can uh donate money time volunteer right so it's not a mandatory thing right um i would also argue that the animal that all of them that are bred into existence for food are genetically altered so they're not anything like the the animals that god put down on earth for us here and then the other point is that um most people working and taking lives um like there's some data to show that they suffer things like ptsd trauma if you can imagine what that might be like taking life uh you know yourself and and what that might do to someone's mental health uh so people tend to turn to alcohol drugs and these things so i think like i i would argue that like all that's hurrah to me personally because again it's not necessary if it was necessary we're having a different conversation so what are your thoughts honestly as i said before everybody
[02:04:37] Speaker 4: has their own opinions i'm not one to judge like if you think that way that's totally fine i'm not going to like argue with you and be like no that's you're wrong yeah because everybody has their own point of views yeah uh yeah that's that's honestly my response like that's something i would say like if you believe in that and you're strong in that then it's like good for you like not in a rude way not in a rude way sure in a positive way like if that's something that you you're fighting for something that you're like protesting about like i'm happy for you and that's good for you but like personally like for me like i stand on what i believe yeah and i know everybody won't agree with me which is fine too like it's okay we're all humans we have our own opinions and everything and i study social work yeah so i know like what you were talking about like mental health and alcohol and stuff like that so i'm really passionate about those things but yeah that's honestly what i would say like i'm not gonna sit here and disagree with you because everybody has their own opinions but yeah
[02:05:30] Speaker 1: so so what would it take for you to say walking away from this conversation that i would go vegan and
[02:05:36] Speaker 4: maybe i would change i think like as i said before like everybody has their different like um perspectives on it like i personally don't see myself going vegan even though like i use many like vegan cruelty like free products like for my face for my hair like for my body like everything else but yeah i think that's just like my opinion on it yeah yeah that's just what i believe yeah do you think that your opinion could ever be changed um i'm really strong in my faith so i don't think so yeah but if like i'm not like i don't know how to answer that because i think like if i'm strong in something that i believe like i'm not going to go against it so it's kind of like you're in like so yeah so i brought up this
[02:06:20] Speaker 1: sign about animal abuse right and like you're talking about haram yeah and so like again i feel like sometimes people will pick what they want uh and choose what they want out of religion um but sometimes
[02:06:36] Speaker 4: they don't follow everything in the religion yeah that's true everybody is on their own journey everybody has disagreements within their religion like um or there's even some people who like kind of um take it let's just like i need an example like let's just say the hijab like people would assume i'm forced to wear it but that's not true that's just you know like i personally have worn it for myself like not for anybody else like this is for me so it's kind of like people have their own perspectives on it people will say like negative things about it people will say positive things about it and honestly like personally like i'm not one to judge as i said before so i'm not gonna
[02:07:14] Speaker 1: like argue with that if you found out that the animal actually did suffer while their life was being
[02:07:21] Speaker 4: taken would that matter to you um obviously i do care about animals and i don't support animal cruelty or abuse at all but again it's what i believe like i don't think like that's what had happened like if that's something you have seen yourself like that's on your perspective but my perspective is that as muslims we do a certain prayer over it so the animal doesn't feel that sort of pain have you seen it yes i have i have seen it like for either or like um like back home like there's like eat prayers and stuff over the animal how did it make you feel when you saw it um obviously i was sad obviously but um i what i believe is i'm very strong in what i believe so i know that the animal is gonna um go to heaven or like they're not feeling any of sort of that pain that's what i believe yeah but that's fine if you don't agree with it like as i said like okay well well i one thing one thing i'll leave
[02:08:19] Speaker 1: you with is i would really encourage you to like i understand your beliefs are strong and sometimes that's okay i think but also at times maybe that can blind us to what the reality is so i'll just leave you with that and i appreciate you stopping by of course i hope you guys have a nice day all right you too yeah i don't i don't think there's anywhere more i could go with that um maybe just leave on a positive interaction i mean i could have told her off but i don't think that's gonna happen um maybe maybe the conversation plants a seed you never know right um i wanted her to reflect on the time that she saw an animal being killed and and she said it did bother her but if it bothers her then then there's something there maybe so what can we do right we can try with everybody but sometimes it doesn't happen thank you ben for telling me i should drink water yeah it's been a bit i should probably drink some water but guys guess what i'm going to say to the legends to the legends to all the incredible people here i just want to say you freaking rock not to the trolls the trolls go get outside go for a walk for once in your life jesus get a tan or something anything get some vitamins geez i just got to say to all you legends who are here with us today i appreciate you all you guys are the best you keep me going uh that's how i'm able to keep going but i also encourage you to get active get out there you have a voice a powerful voice you don't even realize it it was like seven or eight years ago i started going to vigils i had no idea i'd be sitting in front of a box talking to people and it just took a matter of someone having some confidence in me to say hey and i'm just paying it forward i know you guys can change the world go change the world be that change thank you so much for being here thank you go subscribe to another again another damn vegan sorry go subscribe and follow and you're a legend as well tato thank you guys so much and we'll see you guys later and guess what these streams they might be happen a little bit more often you never know you never know thank you guys so much for being here uh martin again thank you uh for being an incredible mod i appreciate you guys and yeah get outside enjoy some weather get some good vegan eats in and yes tony i'm gonna go eat some grass right now it's gonna be lovely