my firm can and can't do, and my fellow shareholders have made huge financial sacrifices over the last eight years because we have preemptively recused ourselves from projects and not taken on clients and even fired clients that we thought may potentially have a conflict, and I hold myself and my firm to the highest ethical standards, and I appreciate the public asking questions, but if somebody has a question, please ask me, but now we've answered this question, and I would appreciate not continuing with this. If anybody in the public wants to have a constructive conversation, dialogue about Hillsborough College and how to protect the faculty and students and the community, I'm happy to have that conversation. I just don't like being slandered. Thank you. Councilman Vieira. Thank you very much, sir, and I would, a couple of things, which is, and I took Mr. Shelby outside to express some concerns, which is we need to have universal rules to not put our chairman in a bad position on citation of council members because we, I'm not going to motion for that, but council members, we need to take care of that because we're going to get in trouble. That's all I'm going to say. Okay, there's got to be universal rules on that. Well, we have, we have the rule. It just has to be universally applied. Yeah. But in other words, if somebody goes up there and says, Louis Vieira walks on water, let's go give them a key to the city. Okay. I'm not going to object. Okay. There you go. But, but I'm not going to object. And that's what I'm saying, which is we put you, sir, in a bad position. And, and I, I just think that we, we need to need to do something of that nature. I would say, um, just, yeah, I, I, I, I agree on that. And it's, I, you know, part of, and it's even some of this discussion, like we had, you know, a couple of weeks ago with the conflict between one person and myself. Um, part of it is because, you know, you try to be the good, you know, you try to let things go. And then where do you draw the line of being like, you know, being authoritarian versus enforcing, you know, being, you know, enforcing rules and, and, and having open and honest dialogue. So it's difficult. I think one of that thing also is we have to be much more diligent about being recognized by the chair before you speak. And because I've been very, probably a little bit too relaxed on that as well, you know, because of that open dialogue stuff, but honestly, especially with these really meaty issues, I think some, you know, we're just, we're just going to have to pull it back a little bit more than we have in the past. May I make, so an admission on my part, cause I'm not judging anybody. Cause seven years ago, somebody called me out and I said, I think Guido was the chair. I said, objection, you can't. And it was because he was saying something negative. So I'm not judging anybody. I don't hate the player. That's like the collapse. I don't allow the collapse because I don't allow the booze. So it's the same kind of thing. Yeah. Okay. Very good. Okay. I'm going to go to any new business. Councilman Carlson, any new business? Councilman Vera, I know you do. Yeah. I have a couple, if I may. I'm going to make that motion and I'm sorry. I don't have the calendar here with me. I apologize. So my motion is for, okay. Yeah, here it is for the moving of Tampa police department district one and the Tampa fire infrastructure that has been promised at the Ray stadium site. Um, a quite a, a briefing by city staff in person, um, on the proper method to memorialize this, um, through a, uh, an agreement that is binding on the rays. And so therefore, what are we in November? Almost let's say, um, how about the third week of January? That's, do we have a date because we don't have the calendar. Yeah. I apologize for a motion. Oh yes, ma'am. Uh, in person report, um, something in January. And if staff needs more time, let's do the 21st. If I may, I have, I have a motion from councilman beer. I have a second from councilman Maniscalco. I agree. I spoke with Nick stock. Yeah. I said, I would agree. I would support this as well. So I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. Aye. And then this is, so today this, I didn't put this with it. Cause I probably thought I was out of line a little bit to open things up, but today is the three year anniversary of the murder of Harrison Boonstoppel. And, uh, that's why I mentioned that. Cause I said, man, I wish I would have put something in that. So I'm going to make a motion for if I may, in the, um, first week of February and again, I apologize. I don't have that is that we get a briefing on what the city, cause I know we do have programs to support victims of crime on things like gun violence and so forth, but a briefing in person from city staff, wherever it may be on existing programs that we have to support victims of crime and prevention of gun violence in the city of Tampa. Um, and, uh, and so that that's, that's what it is, uh, in person briefing again, given that February 18th, I have a motion of councilman Vera for, uh, in person report on February 18th, councilman Miranda. I appreciate what he brought up and I understand what he's doing and I hope you can do that in the legislature because that's where it comes from and you've got a hard battle. Amen. Yes, sir. A difficult battle. Amen. So I have a motion for councilman Vera, a second for councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. The ayes have it. Thank you. Anything else? Councilwoman Young. Okay. I have one motion. Um, I move to make a motion to present an offsite accommodation on November 8th, 2026, celebrating the 35th pastoral anniversary of Reverend Dr. Bartholomew Banks Sr. of St. John Progressive MB Church. I have a motion from councilwoman Young. I have a second from councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. The ayes have it. Councilwoman Hurts. Oh, yeah. Oh, I thought you said you only had one. Um, and then also just, um, today was an interesting day, uh, but necessary and required because that is what we are all elected to do. Um, you know, I've said this before. I think when we, so y'all know, it's only been a year since I've been here and yes, yesterday, yesterday was a year. Um, and it seems so much longer. I know. And in that year we, there's a lot that has happened. Um, but I've said it before. I think, you know, as council members, you know, we all do a good job and we all do our due diligence when it comes to these, um, you know, very serious big matters that we have to take on. Um, but what I will say is that I think one thing that is not necessary or required, um, is disrespect and, um, unnecessary comments, especially, um, you know, once we go to break or once the cameras stop rolling and we may not all agree on everything that we discuss here, but I do think that one thing we all could and should agree on, um, is mutual respect because at the end of the day, we are all here to do a job and we have to respect each other. Um, so, uh, with that being said, um, I will not be disrespected and I'm not going to be bullied, um, by anyone. And I need to, I've said that, but I need to make it very known. We are here to do a job and we're here to be adults. Um, and we need to do that. So let's make sure that we are consistently being respectful from, uh, of each other's, no matter what our views on when we are up here, um, to vote. I think that is an important part of this process and it's, what's going to keep us working together so that we can make the city better. Uh, I'll come back to you. Let me finish this. It was, it was based on hers. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yes, sir. I, I wanted to piggyback. I know what Councilwoman Young was talking about. And afterwards I gave her, um, uh, a photograph that I have of the then first family, the Obama family on the night when president Obama won the election in November, 2008, based upon her prior statement on when folks go low, they go high. And, um, I, I said this before Councilwoman Young, you have my regard. You are, you're a person with a big heart. You're a bleeding heart to me. That's a, uh, a compliment. And one day you're going to be state Senator Young count or a Congresswoman young, Mary young, you have a big heart with a big future. And I know you have all of our respect and you certainly have my respect and regard. You're a good person. So I just wanted to stand by you for that. God bless you. Thank you. Councilwoman Herchek. Councilman Maniscalco. Thank you for your words. I have tremendous respect for you and, uh, you brought it up. I was going to wish you a happy anniversary. It came up on my Facebook memories. I did a post. So, uh, I enjoy working with you and I'm glad you're here. Um, I was going to offer a motion to give you a commendation, Louis, as since this is his, this is your absolute last meeting here, but you had such a send off the other day that was well-deserved. So Louis Palooza. So that's it. And, um, happy early birthday to Charlie Miranda. Yeah. I'll be 26. He'll be 26. Yeah. About 86. Yeah. About 166. You look great for a hundred. Yeah. So do you, sir. You got there before I did. Councilman Miranda. Thank you much. Uh, I'd like to make a motion if possible. Uh, it's going to be a little, but I'll, I'll explain in a minute. I would like to make a motion to continue the first reading item of, uh, number CM 26 dash two, seven, seven, four, one, the charter amendment from November six regular session to November 19th, 20, 26 regular session and move the second reading of this item from November 19th to December 3rd. And the reason for this is we need more time to discuss all this. Wait, I'll second it for discussion. Just, is this for the, the language that goes on the ballot from the charter? When is the deadline of getting it on the ballot? If I extend this correctly, miss, Mr. Miranda, your motion is to continue an item front from what date from, from November 5th to the 19th for first reading. And the second reading would be, uh, on December the third, instead of November the 19th. And I, I Martin Shelby city council attorney. Um, with regard to that, um, and I'm going to refer to set resolution number 20, 25, one zero four, four, four, four, where you set forth the timeline. You asked specifically councilman Maniscalco the final deadline. Yeah. Does this throw, throw off the entire time of getting it to the seat? I'm not sure. Conceivably, yes. Conceivably. Yeah, this, this, we worked through this really. Well, if I, if I can, if I can just, if I can, if I can, if I can just for the purposes of council's edification and reminder, and Mr. Chairman, you are very familiar with the process of creating this ordinance because it was specifically your direction to set forth this timeline, include it in the resolution, have it adopted by council and then stick as closely and humanly possible to do so. And you have up until this point. And as I'm reading from it, November 5th is the first reading of the ordinance by city council. November 19th, 2026, second reading and adoption of the ordinance. And in this case, it's by ordinances of city council. Next bullet point. After the adoption, if that's the case with each of the ordinances, ordinance forwarded to the mayor, excuse me, ordinance forwarded after the mayor's signature to the supervisor of elections for Spanish translation and preparation of the March 2027 ballot. So there's a physical step of when the ordinance is adopted, it is presented to the mayor. And the mayor has 14 days to respond back to city council with the reasons for a veto, if any. And then the charter requires it for council to reconsider that at the next scheduled city council regular meeting, not a special call, not a workshop, whatever. So that being the case, Mr. Chairman, you're very familiar with this because your first question is when is the final deadline for submission of language to the supervisor of elections? And that is January 4th of 2027. Now, mind you, your last meeting after you adopt it, it says in your resolution here, December 3rd or December 17th of 2026. Dependent on the date of a potential mayoral veto, reconsideration of the ordinance by city council requiring a two thirds vote for override. Now, if you miss, for whatever reason, the 3rd or the 17th, it's gone because your next regular meeting is after January 4th of 2027. So I guess my question would be, this is a one week motion. It's scheduled to come back next week on the 5th. And Mr. Tinkler is scheduled to appear and present them to council. Now, here's the issue. If at the first reading, you want to make changes, your only opportunity to make changes is at that meeting. And then it would come back then on the second meeting and that would use up one of your weeks and that would be it. So if there's any, this is, I just want to bring this to council's attention because if for whatever reason, with the potential of a mayoral veto, if council does not reconsider and override time and make it by that date, whatever council has done up until this date will be lost until some future council takes up the issues. Yeah, because I'm going to take a little bit of chair privilege because I was so involved with the council that Mr. Shelby said, in the creation of the schedule and not for, it didn't come from me, but when it came through, again, through direction, we started with Craig Latimer, supervisor of elections, and we worked our way down. And we did that through the advice and council of multiple entities, including Mr. Shelby's advice and other subject matter experts in this, in this field. So I, I, our schedule is, is relatively tight. And as Mr. Shelby highlighted, it doesn't provide a lot of room. And again, we gave, we gave a lot of front end time to get to this point, but now we're in the, now we're in the real mechanics of getting this thing through. So Mr. Councilman Vieira. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So a couple of thoughts on that. I, we, we could, again, if, if it fits Mr. Shelby, um, we could have it on the fifth for a discussion for potential changes. And I'll give two ideas on that, by the way, that I thought about in the meanwhile. Um, one that somebody talked to me about, um, from out of the city, uh, another one, something in a discussion with somebody, but on the 19th, if I'm correct, something that could support this as a rationale, I believe that is the day when my replacement, whoever he or she is, is sworn in. Um, so that, that does give district seven, uh, a bite at the apple, so to speak on this, to the extent it's, it's, it's, uh, necessary. We, we factor that into this equation that they're going to have that final second reading. Yeah. So, so again, that that's of limited relevancy. I would say though, in support of having a discussion on the fifth, having this then for a first reading on the 19th, two very brief issues, which is, do we list financial impacts on these charters? I don't know. I don't know what the law is in that regard. Some of these are going to cause taxpayers money. If we want transparency, something to think about. Another thing is somebody that mentioned this to me, and this makes sense, and I voted for this by the way, is for the executive order override. If it's something of a public emergency designated as such, is there an exception written in? I, we just went through COVID. Okay. A couple of years ago, things to think about. And I say that because that's something that could be discussed on the fifth in further support of what council memorandum is saying. So just my thoughts. If I can, Mr. Chairman, my recommendation would be then council always has the ability to amend its ordinances. It always has the ability to continue its ordinances with direction to staff. You have it on your calendar right now for the attorney to come back and supposedly in a timely fashion to have those ordinances presented to council. Certainly you would have the opportunity to decide what you wish. And if there's a, if for whatever reason, I don't want to go into the machinations of it, but obviously a mayoral override requires the support of five council members, not, not the majority or a super majority of those present, but five votes to survive a mayoral veto. So an ordinance that goes to the mayor with less than five votes may or may not. And even if it does, there may be no facts. But we won't know who that fifth vote is until... Exactly. So what I'm asking council to consider, certainly you can, you, you retain full control. What I'm concerned about council is an unintended consequence that allows you to lose control of the calendar over which you will have no control. I have the same, I have the same concern. Um, councilman, go ahead. And I'm not trying to defend myself or anybody else, but mayoral vetoed. There's only been one that I know of since 1976. And that was on the firefighters pay raise. I think it was, whatever it was, what year it was, 74, 75. And that was vetoed. The mayor vetoed it and the council overrode the mayor on five votes and they called it the fireman five. That's the only veto. And I don't know how many thousands of meetings this council has set in these chambers of these things. So the probabilities of this happening. I think, I think when I recognize councilwoman Hurtzak, she's going to correct that record. Yeah. Um, maybe there's another one. Yeah. She did this the last time we put stuff on the charter. Yeah, she did. I'm sorry. So four years ago, I'm not trying to mislead anybody. It didn't realize it. Yeah. Although all those ones that we know of, there's more, but there's only two. I mean, I, again, I have, I have great concern about changing the counter because this was really, this was worked on pretty, I mean, there was a lot of the time spent on this from a lot of different entities. Okay. I have a motion. I have a second. Um, all those in favor say, uh, this is a motion to continue the item. And you second for discussion. Five words, if I may on it, it is my understanding by voting yes for this, that we're still on train for the veto. Um, so that's, so that's all that's it. Wait, but this is to continue the motion, the motion for council Miranda is to continue, which again, and my kind of goofs up the schedule. I have a second council. Yeah. I just want to add, um, I don't know if it was last time or time before, but the administration blamed us for rushing things at the end. And so I'm going to vote no, because I think we need as much time as possible. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Shelby, normally, I correct me if I'm wrong. Madam clerk, a motion to continue at this point removes it from next week's agenda. So they, the ordinances. So then Mr. Chairman, you'd have to, I suspect count count, cancel the council, um, attorney, the, uh, charter review commission attorney to come in. Can we see the, there's, there's, there's consequences. And by the way, what hasn't been factored into publication. So you might have, you might, you might be more, you might be meeting all the mile posts with regard to the meetings, but you will not meet the mile posts with regard to publication. How is that? And without publication, then, then there is no. How is it impossible for publication? I've asked the clerk because with your motion, I would ask that you request, if it continues, if it's rescheduled to December 3rd for the second reading, that publication be taken care of by November 25th. No, I'm sorry. November 18th is the latest. November 18th, which we won't have second reading until the 19th. Right. Yeah. You can't do it. Right. So any one of the other complexities is what you don't realize. We also have to get translated to Spanish, which is also part of the timeline. Well, I can do that. We don't want all those swear words in there. He said, he said Spanish, not West Tampa. Look, I would draw the motion. That's the way, that's the way everybody's happy. All right. I don't want to embarrass you. Okay. So I have a withdrawal from the maker and the second. Okay. So there's no motion on the floor. Anything else, Mr. Councilman? No, I just want to thank the members for making this move, changing this thing from November the 12th to today. I found out exactly where I'm at. Okay. Councilman Hurtek. Recognize the chair. Okay. I have two motions. One, I make a motion to request staff to bring a resolution to city council on November 5th, 2026, pursuant to pending ordinance doctrine to declare the city's intent to adopt amendments to the Tampa comprehensive plan land development code and city code related to data centers and direct staff to prepare and submit proposed amendments to city council direct direct staff to immediately cease accepting processing land development applications for data centers direct staff to prepare an interim development control moratorium ordinance on data centers so that staff can explore and develop a comprehensive plan amendments land development code and city code language relating to all aspects of regulations of data centers schedule a public hearing on the moratorium ordinance for december 3rd 2026 at 501 pm and january 7th 2027 at 10 a.m and direct the clerk to advertise the public hearings for the moratorium ordinance so I have a motion from chair clendenin I have a second from councilman miranda all those in favor aye any opposed okay thank you I'd also like uh to make a motion to amend the accommodations that we had already approved for the charter review commission members to include our wonderful tanya wilcox and darsh sarvana because of their work so absolutely so I have a motion from the chair a second from councilman uh maniscalco all those in favor aye any opposed nope okay yeah we kind of said this earlier but best wishes to councilmember um her tax mom and thank her for loaning us to councilmember her tech today thank you and uh before I close it out it would be I would be remiss to say um you know the again biggest deal in the history there's so many pieces staff Rebecca uh Johns and so many of city staff has been part of this process our city attorney staff um obviously the county commission folks as well there's been a lot of people whether you agree or disagree you can't um underestimate the amount of effort folks have put in um you know so you may not like the final product but know that these i mean i know Rebecca Johns has been working morning noon and night on this stuff and the county commission staff as well julia mandel and those folks there's been a lot of energy and effort put into this and i wanted to say thank you to them for the amount of time and energy they've spent working on this process with that being said if there's no further i'd like to receive and file these documents okay a motion to receive and file documents from councilman miranda second councilman maniscalco all those in favor say aye aye aye opposed aye seven mr shelby yeah there was a so did you want to very briefly discuss a request by the public because it comes up sometimes very often and people need to know that yes so normally when we receive email correspondence we only file it into the record when it's a quasi-judicial proceeding um i did receive a request from mr alfonso lopez requesting that his email be submitted for the record for today's meeting okay i have a motion from councilman to check to uh receive and file the email correspondence a second for councilman iscalco all those in favor say aye aye opposed i said anything else can i get a motion to receive and file motion to receive and file councilman iscalco second councilman miranda all those in favor say aye aye opposed i said it we are adjourned