Tampa City Council - 10/01/26

the Tampa City Council. I'd like to call this meeting to order and recognize Councilman Miranda. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's my pleasure this morning to introduce the individual going to give the invocation. Mr. Jason Solwell has worked as a pastoral ministry and the nonprofit sector in Tampa for more than 20 years as a church pastor. Law enforcement is his chaplain, nonprofit founder. He has led the Tampa-based nonprofit organization current initiative since 2008 with a mission of dealing hope to local communities through the Laundry Project, Hope for Homes Project, and Affordable Christmas Initiative. He's also been serving as a chaplain with the Tampa Police Departments in 2016. Mr. Jason Solwell. Please write for the invocation. Remains ending for the Pledge of Allegiance. Thank you, Councilman. If you would, pray with me. Heavenly Father, thank you so much for this beautiful day that you've given to us. Thank you for these great leaders of our city, these heroes that are here that serve and protect our city. We ask your blessing today on this meeting, this council. We ask that you would give wisdom to those making decisions for our city, that you would give them compassion and grace, and may they embody that, and may the voices of our community that stand here today and voice their concerns. May they be heard, and may they be well represented, and may we as a community stand firm together as we shine a light on what needs to be fixed in our future going forward to be an even greater city than we are. We love you. We thank you that we get to be here in this community together, and may this meeting and these voices be productive. We love you. Thank you for loving us. In Jesus' name, amen. To the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much. Clerk, would you please call the roll? Miranda. Here. Menescoco. Here. Hurtek. Here. Young. Vieira. Here. Carlson. Here. Glenn Denon. Here. We have physical quorum. Thank you so much. Can I get a motion to adopt the minutes from the regular session held on September 17, 20, 26. I have a motion from Councilman Miranda, second from Councilman Menescalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, I just have it. Agenda review time. I'll start off with, I need a motion to remove items 13 and 45 from the agenda, please. I have a motion from Councilman Miranda, second from Councilman Vieira. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, I just have it. I have a motion to continue item 50 to November 5th. That was actually my request. Thank you. Motion from Councilman Miranda, second from Councilman Menescalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, I just have it. Yes. November 5th. That is a 10 a.m. public hearing. Is that correct? Yep. Is that... So, I motion to move item 50 to November 5th at 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, floor, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602 at 10 a.m. Thank you. I'm sorry, but that can't be the set time for the start of the... Okay. Mr. Chair. Yes. I think it's good for the purpose of the public that we say that we are going to move that. And also, I just want to say that on this topic, I found out that somebody in the city was recruiting small businesses to email us and to come to the meeting today and also to print t-shirts, and I reported to the city attorney's office, who I think stopped it. But it's illegal and unethical to play in politics with city and taxpayer money. We'll have that discussion later. If I can. I have some thoughts on that, too. If I can, then, Mr. Chairman. Yes. Martin Shelby, good morning. City council attorney. Just to talk through number 50, it is council's intention to continue it. Therefore, it will not be heard at 10 o'clock. Is that what council's intention? That is correct. That being said, it is a public hearing, and therefore, I believe, if it's not going to be discussed, especially, particularly today, it would be inappropriate for the public to comment on it during just general public comment because it is the subject of a public hearing, and we would want that into the record. And anything they say today would not be part of that record. Although, that being said, Mr. Shelby, if you're telling us that we cannot continue that until 10.30. 10 o'clock. I'm sorry, until 10 o'clock, if public comment occurs before 10 o'clock, it is still on the agenda. The item is on the agenda, and it is non-quasi-judicial, so I just, okay. Yeah, so I think I would be saying if someone is here and wishes to speak to that item, because it is on the agenda and won't be removed until 10 o'clock, I would give them the deference and be able to speak to that item. And that's your prerogative, and that's council's prerogative. Thank you. Thank you. Very good. Okay. I need a request to continue item number 62 to November 19th. I have a motion from Councilman Miranda, seconded from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Aye. Councilwoman Hurtek. I move to accept the written staff report 66, 67, and 68. 66, 67, and 68. Okay. I have a motion from Councilwoman Hurtek. I have a second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Is staff needed for 60 and 61? Just a moment. No? Okay. Hearing no staff is required for 60 and 61. Can I get a motion to receive and file? So moved. Okay. Oh, can we leave a public comment for it? Yeah, you're right. Never mind. Well, we're just flipping right along, aren't we? Okay. Very good. Anything else? Yes. I said 63, 64, 65 staff is going to be present for already. So we've got that taken care of. Anybody else? Anybody need adjustments to the agenda? Can I get a motion to accept the agenda? So moved. Motion of Councilman Miranda, seconded from Councilman Maniscalco. I'm sorry, Councilman Vieira. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Very good. Okay. We have adopted the agenda and it's time for commendation time. Councilman Vieira. Yes, ma'am. And the addendum. Motion to the addendum. Councilman Maniscalco, seconded from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Okay. Very good. Thank you. Go ahead, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Council. It's my great pleasure here today to do our Officer of the Month. And we always do this. Again, we're a community that supports our first responders, including our wonderful police officers. And here to talk about this person, we have our Assistant Chief Messmer, or Deputy or Assistant. I always, okay, there you go. Come forward. Come forward. Thank you, sir. Morning, Council. Patrick Messmer, Deputy Chief, Tampa Police Department. Today we're here to recognize Officer Barry Maurer. Officer Maurer would like to come up. Officer Maurer has been with the Tampa Police Department for about five years. Three of those five years have been spent as a field training officer up in District 2. He works predominantly in the Sulphur Springs area. But Officer Maurer has over two decades of law enforcement experience when he came to Tampa Police Department, including a lot of leadership and supervisory experience, and that's what motivated him to become a field training officer. Field training officers are extremely important. They train the new recruits when they leave the police academy. Our field training officers train them how to actually do the job, how to interact with the community, how to uphold the values and the mission of the department. And not only do they train them how to do the job, but they really mold them for their mindset of how they're going to police for the rest of their career. So Officer Maurer is extremely, extremely detail-oriented, very knowledgeable, very commendable work ethic, and he is such a good trainer and has such good leadership skills that we frequently use him to train some of our recruits who need a little bit more assistance and are facing some challenges. So in addition to that, he's also a very experienced investigator, does great investigative work. There was a recent case where he helped our detectives identify and arrest some individuals involved in an armed robbery. Additionally, he's a very proactive officer. Again, some recent examples of that. There was an instance where he was able to locate and identify somebody who previously had fled from a traffic stop and had some felony charges. He was proactive and was able to identify and arrest somebody who was illegally in possession of a firearm and narcotics, and he was able also to identify and arrest suspects who were responsible for the theft of another firearm. So violent crime and firearm offenses are obviously something that's very important to curving in our community. Officer Maurer does a great job of both the reactive and the proactive police work and trains our new officers in an exemplary fashion, instilling in them everything that we want our Tampa police officers to be. So for that reason, we are recognizing him as our Officer of the Month. And before we honor you formally and have counsel speak and hear from you, sir, we have members of the community here who would like to honor you. So, Mr. Miller, come. John Miller with Tampa PBA, counsel. On behalf of all the members who want to present this to you in recognition of all the great work that you do very. Good morning, Officer Maurer. I'm Grace Gonzalez. I'm here on behalf of the Gonsmart family and the 1905 family of restaurants. Thank you for being here in Tampa. Thank you and your family for your sacrifices and your time. We want to thank you with this gift card to any of our 1905 family of restaurants. So any of the Columbia restaurants, catch a Flamenco show, the Uleli. Thank you for everything you're doing. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Good morning, counsel. Mary Dillon, representing the Strass Center. Thank you very much, Officer, for your service to our community. On behalf of a grateful Strass, tickets to see, what are these for? Nutcracker. Thank you. Enjoy the holidays or tickets to see Nutcracker. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Morning, counsel. Mike MacArthur, Steps Towing Officer. Congratulations on the job. Well done. Thank you for everything you do for our community. So on behalf of Todd, Steps, and Steps Towing, I'd like to present you with a $100 gift card for dinner, for you and your family. Take some time off. You deserve it. Thanks for everything you do. Appreciate it. Good morning, counsel. Brian Ford with the Buccaneers. Good morning, Chief. Good morning. We met in the lobby there. And, you know, we have a tradition. After hearing your story, it kind of falls in line at one Buccaneer place. Anybody that goes over and above gets a game ball. And hearing your story, you and your family definitely go over and above. So on behalf of the Glazer family, our coaches, our players, our entire organization, thank you for what you do and the sacrifice that your family gives for our great city. Thank you so much. I'd like to present that game ball. Thanks so much. Thank you. Good morning. I'm Mary Lou Bailey. I'm here on behalf of Zoo Tampa. It's always hard to go after the Bucs ball, but I'm going to do my best. So I'm here on behalf of Zoo Tampa. We wanted to thank you for your service. And we've got a basket with a spotted leopard. I know, Lynn, you always ask me about that. And spotted leopards are really cute, but they have really big fangs. So I don't know. There's probably some analogy with police in there. But in here is an annual membership to the zoo for you and your family to enjoy. It includes our events. We have Preachers of the Night going on right now. So I want to thank your family and hope you enjoy that. And I want to thank everybody in service. And I know I'm not looking at you, Alan, but I wanted to make sure to make eye contact. Thank you guys for serving. You're all awesome. You're awfully special. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Good morning, counsel. Leo Gary and Dennis Montero with Bill Curry Ford. Congratulations on winning this award. Thank you so much for what you do. And I say this every single time I'm up here and I'm going to continue to say it. I appreciate and respect each and every one of you guys. It puts that uniform on every single day. It makes it safe for each and every one of us at City Tampa. On behalf of Bill Curry Ford, I want to present to you a handwritten letter from Jennifer Curry herself with a gift card and then there's a full free maintenance on your personal vehicle and there's some Ford apparel as well. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Counsel, I'm Gabby Palacetti on behalf of Friends of the Tampa Riverwalk. We're just incredibly grateful for everything we do for our community. So we have a personalized paver located on Platte Street for you and a dinner for two on board Yacht Starship. Wow, thank you. Thank you so much. The chair, I think you need an automatic Lazy Susan up here to keep people oriented in the right direction. And then you can just push the button so it rotates it back to the... I'm just thinking I need a zapper just for you. We're going to start with you, I'll just say it. Either that or a hook, whichever you want, you know, it's fine. I'm Steve Michelini. I'm here on behalf of a variety of different folks and the Chicho Restaurant Group is providing you with a gift certificate so you can enjoy yourself over there, breakfast, lunch, or dinner. On behalf of the Jackson's Bistro over there on Harbor Island, you can enjoy yourself over there for lunch or dinner. Meat market in Old High Park Village. And yummy house over on Dale Mabry. And please bring these letters and the certificate with you. Yes, sir. Appreciate it. Congratulations. So, officer, on behalf of a very grateful city of Tampa, us all, 400,000 people that live here in the city of Tampa, and I believe your family's here, am I correct? Yes, sir. And we salute you, sir, and your family for your amazing sacrifice. God bless you, man. Thank you. There you go. Thank you so much. It's very humbling to give these awards. I think it says a lot about the Tampa community that folks like you come out and show your support to law enforcement. So, I know it's not required. I know it's not necessary. But it is appreciated. So, thank you so much. My family's here. My mom and my dad, my wife, my two kids. Get them to stand. Family members, stand up. I think Jackson and Katie are just happy they get to skip school today. But they do a great job for me at home. I really do appreciate them, and they're patient with their weird scheduling. So, thank you to my wife for juggling that. My chain of command, just top-notch from the top down. Chief Owen, Deputy Chief Mesmer, Major McCormick, Captain Grown, Lieutenant Kelly. That's my direct administration, and they make decisions way above my pay grade. But I can feel the difference they make on the streets. I can feel in the district and the department. They're doing a great job. My immediate supervisor, Sergeant Nemeth, Corporal Basseus isn't here today, but she's a great person. They're with us on the streets, and they're guiding us and helping us out and keeping us in line. And whether it's a complicated call or a scary call, I know they're right there beside me or leading from the front. And I've been working for Sergeant Nemeth for about three years now. Probably the best law enforcement leader I've ever worked for, so thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Finally, Squad 209 is a group of guys and girls who are just exceptional at what they do. And when they're not making fun of me for being old, they're super supportive, and they teach me things every day. And honestly, any one of them would have been better for this award than me. So thank you to them, and thank you to you all. Appreciate it. Thank you. Hold on. No, I'm sorry. So on behalf of Tampa City Council and the entire city of Tampa, this is one of our favorite days of the month. We really appreciate it. You know, the city council is very appreciative of the folks that wear the uniform and protect us. The numbers speak for it all, the work that you guys do every day, keeping our community safe and sound. Thank you to your family for showing up today because without, you know, the family support, it's a difficult job to have and to be able to go home and be able to have that family life and still put on the uniform every morning to come out for the rest of your family, which is all of us in the city of Tampa. So thank you. Thank you so much for what you do, and we're very appreciative. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Hey, Brian Ford. I see some guys stand against the wall that you guys might need to recruit. Thank you. Okay. Now I'd like to recognize Councilwoman Yeo. Thank you very much. All righty. Well, good morning, Council. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Today we are presenting combinations to two wonderful people. First, we are going to acknowledge and honor Mr. Albert Owens, also known as Mr. Buckified Burt, for his outstanding contributions to the Tampa Bay community as a role model, philanthropist, and community icon. This commendation recognizes Mr. Owens' 30 years of service to WFLA, Channel 8, and for his long-standing dedication to uplifting local youth and inspiring future generations through service, generosity, and positive leadership. The Buckified Burt Scholarship, established as part of the Buckified and Operation Legacy, Emily is a Live Mission, reflects Mr. Owens' commitment to preserving the memory and legacy of his mother, Emily. Since 2004, he has honored her memories by giving back to the Tampa Bay community and supporting the educational aspirations of local youth. Through his scholarship, Mr. Owens awards a deserving high school senior $1,000 toward their education. In addition to his philanthropic efforts, Mr. Owens' unwavering devotion to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers has earned him induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame for the Professional Football Ultimate Fan Association, recognizing his long-standing passion, dedication, and support for the Buccaneers and the Tampa Bay community. The message behind Buckified, be understanding citizens and identify friendly individuals every day, embodies his commitment to kindness, service, and community engagement. It is with great pleasure that the Tampa City Council presents this commendation on this first day of October, 2026 to Albert, Mr. Buckified, Burt Owens. B-U-C-C-A-N-E-E-R-S. Go Bucs! First of all, I want to thank... Start with your name first. Okay, this is my first time ever coming here. Oh, that's okay. But I thank you so much for this opportunity. My name is Albert Owens, aka Buckified Burt, and as the Councilwoman spoke, and Niall Young, that Buckified stand for Be Understanding Citizens, Identify Friendly Individuals Each Day, because a stranger can be a danger. We want kids to be cognizant of their surrounding and, you know, get their education. So if you want to put it in two words, Buckified, education and awareness. You're going to be cognizant of your surrounding, but we want you to get that education and everything. And I'm thankful for this opportunity. I don't have my mom here, but I do have some others here that care about the program that came over to support the Buckified and Olay Alive program this morning, as well as I have some scholarship recipients that took time to come over as well. And I have a student who won a turkey for me when he was at the age of five. He beat everybody out in the state of Florida for BMX bike riding, and he took the time to come. At the age of five, he won that turkey. Then he beat everybody out in the state of Florida with a bike competition. And so we've been connected ever since. He liked the program. He graduated from USF, and now he's working. But he cares about the program. And so we don't do what we do as Buckified for ourselves. We want to help the next generation. We're going to give them some of the tools that we learned over the years, you know, because I started out as a shoe shine boy in Ybor City at the age of nine. And so life lessons learned growing up since then and combined with over 30 years working at WFLA TV afford me an opportunity to kind of like help the next generation. And we have Katie over here, and Katie has been, she helped us make some music back in 2010 when she was like seven years old. And now she's one of our scholarship recipients. And so we have some people that make music for us back in 2002, Sean Brown. He's over here to support us. And we had some students that came over, and they did interviews as we produced shows, Buckified and O'Lear Live 30-minute shows. I didn't go to college to learn how to do that, but observation. I learned so much at Channel 8, so I used that knowledge to help the next generation. And we have Kerry Nose. Kerry Nose coming over to support us as well. His mom, Sheila. I mean, Shirley. I mean, Sheila. So I'm just kind of a little nervous, but I'm trying to be normal with you all. I thought I was going to come over here with the Buccaneers 3-0. Unfortunately, some of them referees didn't allow us to get, you know, and if y'all can do something about that with them referees and legislate, I mean, why y'all, you know, because, I mean, it was, like, unfair for what they did to us. But at the same time, we're here for a serious moment, and I don't want to embarrass the councilwoman for giving me this opportunity. I can't thank her enough. I can't thank you enough for giving me this opportunity. You know, I'm so happy that Channel 8 took the time to come by as well, and we have somebody that's over here that I've been going out to dinner with for 25 years, and she's, like, we just took it to Burns not too long ago, but she's, like, a graduate from Middleton High School at the age of 60. She's a friend of mine that's been helping us, and she's here, and her name is Jackie Wilkin. And her son is the police, and, you know, because you guys recognize the police just recently. Her son is the police over here, and so I just try to surround myself with positive people and have a tendency. How many minutes do I have? Okay. I just want to make sure, you know, I cut it off because, I mean, you know, Buccaneers don't got me wanting to just talk about other things, but I really can't wait for the Buccaneers to play Green Bay Packers. And if you mind, you know, since his clock is giving me a little bit of time, I'm just going to stop right about now. Yeah, you did good. I just have to say, part of his, I think this is the great thing about accommodations because people are recognized, and he's very excited to be here today. So just know that we're doing something really great and positive, and it's really, he's very excited to be here with us today. Your joy and happiness is contagious, and to be able to start a meeting like this, I want you to come before every one of our meetings. Or maybe sometimes halfway through the meeting, we'll be drugged down into the dirt. It'd be able to have that amount of uplifting. You know, Councilwoman Young and I were just at the Police Athletic League, and, you know, we both spoke, and, of course, we met a whole lot of kids, and how important it is to have this type of activity, role model leadership in the community, of building this next generation of citizens for the city of Tampa. And it's so exciting to have people like you understand the importance, and especially tying it into sports, how important sports are to building the next generation of leaders in our community. That's one of the reasons, you know, Tampa's a sports town, but, you know, we're a sports town from the time kids are three, four, and five years old, and we build through the community. How many major league players that we've cultivated through all of our different types of leagues, you know, and folks that have really truly become leaders in their own right and become captains of industry and teachers and, you know, every other type in our community. Our very own leader of our PAL, our Police Athletic League, former NFL football player that started off in the Police Athletic League, growing up in Robles Park, I believe you said, and then starting in athletics and then turning into a community leader, helping kids every day. So it's so exciting. It's so exciting for you to be here. I don't normally talk this much, but I really love your presentations. Thank you very much. Councilor Miranda. Thank you. It's hard to follow you and the gentleman speaking. In fact, when you took your three minutes times six, no, no, no. But if I was the owner of the box, all my helmet would look like your head right there. They would never lose a game. You blind the opposition. This is why I love my councilors. This is why I love my councilors. I mean, you know, I think we are the best. You know, we have the best councilors in the entire nation. Love you guys. Take the dark glasses off. Go ahead, Councilman Vieira. Thank you. And thank you, Councilwoman Young. You said it right, which is that we can honor unique people and see them. And, sir, just in a world of tools, like you're awesome. Like you keep it real. You are who you are. And I think that is so cool. Like just keep on being who you are. We got to see people for who they are on the inside and you are on the outside. There's no facade with you. And to me, that's like really good. So God bless you. Okay. Thank you so much. Brian Ford was coming. Uh-oh. We're going to bring him up in a second. Councilman Escalco wanted to say something to you. Yeah. I've never met you personally, but I've seen you in action. Specifically Thanksgiving morning, you pop into Donatello's on Del Mabry where they go and open the restaurant and feed anybody that is hungry. And I've seen you there for many, many years. And, again, you know, you're on TV. I see you on social media. I see you, you know, you're very unique in a character, but you're always doing something good. Your purpose is always helping somebody or something charitable or lifting somebody up. So your reputation speaks for itself. And we're all very honored that you're here and that we get to honor you and show the folks at home, you know, all that you are and what you do. So thank you very much. Sorry. Can I say thank you? I'm out of time. I'm going to bring up Brian Ford. You all want to come up? Okay. Okay. Oh, my. I want to say thank you to that because I'm not fanatical just to be fanatical, but I'm fanatical to be phenomenal in the community. I'd say it another way. Good morning again, Councilman. Thank you so much for recognizing Albert. Yes, he's an ultimate fan of the Buccaneers, and I love that. But more importantly, you know, he's been in the Hall of Fame going on 10 years in the National Football Hall of Fame for being a fan. But put all that aside, on behalf of the Glazer family, our entire organization, we thank you for being a fan. But more importantly, we thank you for being a role model. Those two words. Wow. Because you are a role model for kids, for adults, for everyone. And I just want to say thank you. And this recognition could not be for a better, more deserving individual. He represents our community in what Tampa, you know, you talk about Titletown and Champa Bay. It's not just on the field. It's what happens in the community. And he's making a difference in, you know, with kids and, more importantly, with adults, showing the path to do more for kids. So, again, thank you. I have a game ball for you, but I had a little fumble, as I explained in the lobby. But it's coming in, and you're going to have a game ball. Because, again, you go over and above, day in and day out, for this community. Not just the Buccaneers, but for the community. Thank you. Come on, y'all. Come on, y'all. Woo! Woo! Thank you. Thank y'all. Thank y'all so much. I really appreciate this. How much more time I got? Can I get about three more minutes? Oh, my God, Stacey Scheibel's out here. Stacey Scheibel is here. It's like, oh, my God, she's our anchor. Stacey Scheibel's our anchor. Go ahead. Oh, we out of time? Quickly, quickly. Stacey Scheibel, News Channel 8. I wouldn't miss this for the world. This man has been around. I've been here 26 years. And, Brian, I have to tell you, I walk in on a Monday morning after the Bucs lose, and I'm like, ugh. And yesterday, he goes, there's still only one game out of the division lead. So he only finds the positive in everything. You are honoring your mother, Ole. She's up there looking down, and she's so proud of you. And I just love that he honors kids who might not be the best athlete or the best student, but they're great human beings. And we need more of you. We love you. Thank you so much. All right. I'm out of time. I don't want to embarrass nobody. Thank you, Councilwoman Young, for bringing that for us today. Thank you, Council. Thank you, Council, so much. So we have one more accommodation that we are presenting today. Okay. Beat this, Commissioner. So thank you again, Council. So today, we're also proudly honoring and recognizing Mr. Leslie Les Miller for his dedication and service to Hillsborough County, the Tampa Bay community, and the state of Florida. Through his distinguished service as a former Hillsborough County Commissioner, elected Florida State Senator, and elected Florida State Representative, Mr. Miller has demonstrated a steadfast commitment to public service and to improving the communities he has had the privilege to represent. Mr. Miller will receive the first inaugural Robert Bob Samuels Award for courage for courage at the first annual Black Men's Wellness Day, October 10, 2026. The award is established in memory and honor of the late Robert Bob Samuels. Mr. Samuels was the founding chairman of the National Prostate Cancer Coalition, co-chairman of the Florida State of the Florida Prostate Cancer Task Force, board member of H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center, and research institute member of University of Florida's Business School Dean's Circle, and a former board member of the Community Foundation of Tampa Bay. Throughout his life, Mr. Samuels advocated for the increased funding of cancer research and raised awareness for prostate cancer and highlighted the disproportionate impact on African American men. On this first day of October, 2026, Tampa City Council proudly honors Leslie Les Miller and the enduring legacy of Robert Bob Samuels for their courage, leadership, dedication, and commitment to giving back to their community with the Robert Bob Samuels Award for courage. Mr. Chairman and council members, thank you very much, but I've got to hug this one because I feel like I have something to do with this one being up there. I really, really do. Thank you very much. It's an honor and a privilege to be here to receive this award on behalf of Robert Bob Samuels. I met Bob before he moved to Tampa. He lived in New York, and he was involved in the National Urban League, and I was on the Board of Trustees of the National Urban League, and met him there, and then he moved to Tampa. And, of course, Bob contracted prostate cancer and became involved in trying to let men know, regardless of the race, color, creed, and national origin, what prostate cancer is all about. And I came down with prostate cancer, and Bob was there as I went through this ordeal, and thank the Lord I've been prostate cancer-free now for 19 years. But Bob did a lot in this community to try to get the message across about the importance of getting yourself checked out and not checked in. So for those men out there that's listening in TV land and to all of those in here, get yourself checked out and not checked in. Prostate cancer research has come a long way. There's no more of that bending over anymore. You get your blood checked for the PSA, and it tells you everything that's going on. So I'm so happy to be here to receive this first award in his honor, and I'm fortunate enough today to have his wife here with us, Ms. Lillian Samuels, who's going to bring a few words with us, and again, thank you so very, very much for this, and I'm back home. Let me say that. I served in that council for 56 days, probably the shortest period of anybody in history serving up here. But I also had an opportunity to be mayor to Ms. Wenderman Miller, who served up there for 16 years, and unfortunately, she couldn't be with us today. So I want to thank you all for all your hard work. Thank you, ma'am. So, again, I feel like I had a lot to do with her being up there, and I'm going to make sure she stays up there if I possibly can. So all of you, thank you so very much, and I would like to now, if you know if possible, for Ms. Lillian Samuels. Thank you for this opportunity. My name is Lillian Samuels, and it gives me great honor and a special privilege to talk about my husband, Bob Samuels. When I think of Bob and those moments that he gave courage to the community and everyone he touched, I think of the times that he went forward, even though the difficult times he knew were ahead. Bob grew up in Philadelphia during the time when opportunities were not great for people of his skin color. But he persevered. He served in the Air Force, and after that, he became a pioneering black banker in our nation. And he worked for actually one of the major banks in our nation. He later became the first African American vice president in our nation, and he led many things in the banking industry. But Bob's greatest act of courage was when he developed aggressive prostate cancer. But he used his medical experience to help other men in their lives pertaining to health. He began educating men about prostate cancer to take responsibility for their health and that building organizations that dedicated to prostate cancer was the road that he was going to lead. He brought awareness, and he advocated for prostate cancer research. Bob founded the Tampa Bay Men's Cancer Task Force, the Florida Prostate Cancer Network, and he began the founding chairman of the National Prostate Cancer Coalition. Throughout Bob's health challenges, he continued speaking, educating, writing, and advocating for men's health. Bob was driven, and he did not give up. His courage turned obstacles into opportunities and personal struggles into a mission to help others. So when I hear the words, award of courage, I know exactly what they represent. They represent perseverance, standing up, even when you know that it's going to be difficult times. Believing that your life has value, and using that life to make a difference. Bob spent his life showing that courage is not just simply something to talk about. Courage is something to live. That is the legacy of Bob Samuels. Thank you. We have one more person from the street. Good morning, City Council. To Mayor Castor and each and every one of you, my name is Carl Lavender, and I'm retired, but I'm also a cancer survivor. Two cancers, kidney and prostate. And I stand here before you having the baton passed to me. In memory of Bob Samuels, I take that charge, and on October the 10th, we will gather men from all over our city in solidarity to work as hard as we can to get men checked out rather than checked in. Thank you, Lily. Thank you, Les. Thank you to you all. We will conquer this. Thank you. Thank you very much, Council. I see you all have your lights on. So go ahead. I wanted to say thank you. This is – I'm really glad you brought this forward. As many of you know, I joined the Cancer Club not that long ago, and my push is for everyone, men and women, to make their annual physical. So I really appreciate your focus. I mean, all of us who are touched by cancer go through a different focus. I really appreciate what you are doing, and so thank you so much. It was a very touching story and a great way to start the day. Thank you for especially focusing on prostate cancer and men. Getting men to go to the doctor can be a more difficult thing, so I really do appreciate you bringing the knowledge that testing has improved. And that's the thing that I talk about as well. So I'll bring that – you educated me this morning, so I'm going to make sure that I talk about that and the fact that no longer is our checkups invasive necessarily. They're coming up with new blood tests every day, and I just really do appreciate what you all are doing. And, you know, solidarity, especially today, the beginning of Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Councilman Maniscalco. Thank you very much. Thank you for talking about the courage of Robert Sanuels and the people that he continues to help, you know. And congratulations to – I know you as Commissioner Miller because we got to work together in that period, and you brought it up. I was going to say that you were a city council member here for a brief period, but you are in the history books, which – and I think you do have the book, but you are pictured there. So I just want to congratulate you and thank you for your many years of service and, of course, your wife, who served here for 16 years. And this is very well-deserved. And, of course, as Councilmember Hertek has mentioned, you know, get tested, get screened. You know, knowledge is power, and knowledge can save your life and a lot of lives in this situation. So thank you very much. Councilman Vieira. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And for you, ma'am, for Mr. Samuels, I served with him briefly on the HARC board, Hillsborough Achievement Resource Center for people with disabilities. It was 20 years ago, and he was a fine gentleman, and we salute his legacy. And so thank you for your words from the heart and Commissioner Miller. You're just a gentleman. You're like Mr. Samuels. I remember you were an Air Force veteran, and you served right after the formal fall – not long after the formal fall of Jim Crow, if I recall. Such a unique time in our military. I always remember that. I always remember you, obviously, in the legislature, you were just a tremendous voice for moral clarity there. And I remember from you, sir, your voice of moral clarity on the Confederate Memorial during your final time in public office, where you used your unique voice as an Air Force veteran, as a patriot, as a person who knows the best of this country, to speak moral clarity on that issue and that abomination. So you're a good guy, so God bless you. Thank you. Councilman Carlson. Yeah, thank you, Commissioner and Senator, for all you have done. You and your wife are great role models for us in elected office. Your legacies of the area have set the paths and examples for all of us to follow. So thank you. It's an honor to be in the same room with you. I was glad to say hi earlier. I also want to say I'm very, very happy that there's an award named after Bob Samuels. I knew him very well. This goes back 20 years in my memory. But you didn't mention the name, but I think it was Chase, right? He was a very, very senior person with them, and he was traveling all over the place. And then I might get the story slightly wrong because I'm going back in my memory. But then he was diagnosed with this, and he was not, I think, expected to last very long. But then he lived like another 10 or more years because of the treatment. And despite all the weariness from all the treatment, he still was traveling all over the place. And to really create a national prostate cancer coalition from Tampa, I remember when he first was talking to me about it, to do something like that from Tampa and to create a national, international presence was a really remarkable thing. And hats off to him for doing that and all the lives that he saved. And I'll just end by saying, you know, he said that men in general, and I think in particular African-American men, don't like to go to the doctor every year. And he in particular was targeting men, although, as my colleague said, everyone needs to get tested. He was pushing heavily the PSA test. There are several other tests also that people can get, I think the CAT scan and others. But he was saying if we could just get everybody to go for the PSA test, you should be doing blood work every year on cholesterol and everything else. And so just ask them to include that. It should be in your regular annual physical. And the annual physical is usually free, I think, in most insurance policies. And so just on behalf of Bob, I would say please go get those tests done. And if you get them done early, it will help save lives as the examples are here. And thank you so much for keeping Bob's memory alive. He was such a great person, a positive influence, great leader. And I told you on the beginning when he would sit at lunch and tell me the stories about the treatments, I would almost pass out and he'd stop and say, you know, don't pass out, we'll keep going on. But he worked really hard on different treatments and research and other things. And I'm so happy that you're carrying on his legacy. Thank you. Councilman Miranda. Thank you. Echo everyone, what everyone said, but especially with your wife. I worked with her for most of those 16 years. She was smart, funny, and straight. She would tell you just how she felt. And we sat right in those two chairs there where the chairman is and where Ms. Young sits. And we swapped chair. I think she became chair for a couple of four years or something like that. And I had an honor of working with her. That's how I met you, sir. And she was very funny, believe it or not, not on the stage. But I think her office was where Guido's is at, in the corner. And my office was here. And one day I had a council member come and tell me, I don't want my office. I want a bigger office. I said, why don't you take mine? And she knew what I was going to say. And I had measured, when I became chairman, I measured all the offices. I knew somebody was going to ask me about that. And mine was the smallest. So I offered that council member this office, and she was laughing because she knew that was the smallest. So after I told her that that was the smallest, she went back to her old office. But that was the type of person she was, that I could share some information what I had done because I knew sooner or later somebody was going to say, my office is too small compared to the rest. The largest office, I hate to say this, no, I didn't say that. You turned yourself in. But that's the largest one we have. But thank you for yourself and what you've done and Mr. Samuels. You know, cancer, I believe, is in everyone. It just started by something else, and it starts festing itself and mutilating and causing the problem. It's one cell versus another cell and cell, cell, cell, and that's what it does. And everybody and everybody in the city of Tampa said somebody passed away from cancer. So sooner or later, I hope it's solved. Thank you very much for who you are and Tech Samuels and the family for what they've done. Mr. Chairman, let me say this. Getting checked out early is important. My wife is a two-time cancer survivor. She had breast cancer twice. Our daughter had cancer five times. And because she caught it early, she's doing very well. And I've had it three times. So early detection will save lives. Let me say this. Thank you for recognizing the police officer of the month. Being the father of a retired city of Tampa police sergeant is highly important. And I prayed for him and every police officer every night because going out there on those jobs, you never know what's going to happen. So, again, thank you. And thank you for sharing Bob with us. We do appreciate it. Thank you very much. Councilman, I don't know what you're talking about. Our offices are like Versailles back there. Okay, they're like a cloak closet in Versailles, but they're like Versailles. You know, you have a lot of titles. You know, councilman, commissioner, representative, senator, father, a husband, a veteran. I mean, so many titles. It's been everybody has said everything that needs to be said except for that. I will say one, thank you for always being a friend. You and I have known each other for many, many, many, many years. And your lovely wife, you know, just give her a big hug for me. And I appreciate you and your family and the service that you all have provided the service for the city of Tampa. The city of Tampa is not the same. And it is so much better because of your service and your family service. Thank you so much. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Okay, Rebecca. Good morning. Rebecca Johns, Legal Department. I am here to make a presentation upon your request about our Bay Area Legal Services program that we have. We started this program in 2022 to help city residents with who are having landlord-tenant issues. This includes, you know, issues with the condition of the property or the landlord breaching the contract or eviction. The way the program is set up is city residents call the housing hotline and then the city, if they meet the requirements for the types of cases, then the city will refer those cases to Bay Area. Bay Area then screens them and makes sure they meet their income requirements and the other requirements that Bay Area has. In 2022, the city funded up to $75,000. Bay Area ended up only expending $2,900 of that. There were nine referrals over and Bay Area handled two cases. In 2023, the city funded again $75,000. Bay Area expended $6,900. There were eight referrals and Bay Area handled five cases. In 2024, the city funded again $75,000. Bay Area expended $5,900. There were five referrals and Bay Area handled three cases. In 2025, the city funded up to $10,000. Bay Area actually expended zero. There were two cases, but they billed them to a different funding source, so none of the money was taken out of the city funding. A lot of the calls that we get from residents are for rental assistance. And so because that's not a legal issue, those cases don't get referred to Bay Area. So we've been working with Bay Area to figure out how to better serve more residents. And so what we've come up with is a lot of the residents are calling Bay Area directly, and they're not coming through our hotline. So the way the contract is set up right now, we would not fund those cases because they didn't come through the hotline. So we are going to be bringing a new contract back to you where now residents can directly contact Bay Area, and then Bay Area can draw down on city funding for that. And Bay Area believes that they have enough of that volume that that will take up the city funding. Councilman Vieira. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you for that. So I motioned for this because I visited our friends at Legal Services not long ago, and this came up. So you think that by making those changes and making the hotline, so first off, the city funding gets activated by the person using the hotline then? Correct. Okay, great. So let me ask you, if I may, what changes can be made to make that hotline more readily known to folks in the community? Because this is such a critical service, obviously. So the hotline is advertised regularly. It's on our website. We put it on publications when we go out. I don't know if it's just that people just automatically call Bay Area first because they've heard about the Bay Area service. And so that's why we're trying to take that element out of them having to reach us. And that way we can still help those residents that don't come to us first. Yes, ma'am. So yeah, because we started this a couple of years ago, and I think Ms. Lockett's here who had a lot to do with that. Hey, Robin. She's like, oh, yeah. And who had a lot to do with that. And so we want to make sure that this gets funded. So yeah, because Bay Area Legal Services is such a godsend in the community. And it's funny, talking about Les Miller reminded me of the late Judge Don Castor, who was the first executive director of legal services after its creation. And I know they have a facility that are in it after the late Judge Castor, who was just such a good dude and a public servant. He was a great guy. So yeah, so what I'll do, if I may, is I'll motion for something to come back in three months, a written report, just on whatever changes, and I won't be here, but just so that. Oh, yes, sir. Yeah, no, I know. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying what I'm going to do. But motion for that to come forward later on, just so that we can keep handling it, because we want to make sure that this is utilized effectively. But thank you, as always. The new contract will be coming, the first hearing in November. That'll be for this fiscal year. Good. Thank you, ma'am. That should take care of that. That's what I'm going to do. Yeah. Again, I want to thank you for your work with this. My question, and thank you for being proactive and trying to find, like, how we can spend this money and changing what, you know, our parameters around it. I think that's really important. So I'm curious, do you think $10,000 is enough the first year for this pilot, or do you think maybe, like, $15,000 might be a better number? That is not a legal question. No, but. The reason that we had taken it down to $10,000 is because we weren't getting the response that we thought that we were going to get. So, you know, maybe if we see how this $10,000 goes with the new adjustments to the program. Okay. So if, I mean, it is coming back to us in November, so I don't know if you still want to do your motion. But hopefully what we can do, and we'll talk about this at that time, is maybe bring us an update before the fiscal year of 28 so that we have an idea of how it's being expended. Because I know Bay Area always needs more funds. So anything we can do to help people with these issues is so important. And it's a, it's a really important pillar of our, um, yeah. Okay. Thank you. Councilman, can you keep it short? We're running like really late. Thank you, Chairman. My question is, I don't know enough about it as far as the financing and where the money comes from. Who are the other agencies that funds this agency? I don't know that. All right. I'd like to know before I do anything on this side. I'm not opposed to what the figure was in the past. So this is a presentation. It's already in the budget. Yeah, but I mean, there's other, there's other agencies that are much bigger than us that do funding for there. I just want to know that. I can find out from them. Okay. And I'll get back to you directly. I just don't, I don't have that information. Okay. Thank you, Councilman Miranda. Okay. That concludes our presentation. Thank you. We ran, ran really, really, really long this morning. Um, we are now going to go to on agenda public comment. This is only for items that are on the agenda. Can I ask in the audience, how many people are here for item 50, the equal business opportunity? Okay. Very good. Um, normally because it was a public hearing, normally you'd only speak when that public hearing occurred, but because this council's intent today to remove that from the agenda, you would not have an opportunity. So I felt in deference, but I want to institutionalize that in a vote. Uh, is there any objection to hearing public comment for item 50? Okay. Very good. Okay. Hearing no objection. I just like to say, I just didn't want to make it. I just didn't want to make sure everybody was good with that. Okay. So on it, you said take off the agenda. Really? We're moving. Moving. Yeah. Can you, can you state the date? Okay. So for those of you that are here for item 50, what will happen when we open that public hearing, we'll move it. We're going to move it to continue it to November 5th, sir. It's past 10 o'clock. You can do it now. Can I get a motion to open public hearings? Can I do it before public comments? Yes. Okay. I have a motion to open public hearings from councilman Miranda, uh, second from councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. I have it. Can I get a motion to move item 50, continue item 15 in November 5th? I have a motion from councilman Vera. Second from councilman. Yeah. November 5th, 10 AM 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, uh, third floor, Tampa, Florida, three, three, six, zero, two. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Viera and Maniscalco. Was that right? Yep. Okay. Very good. Okay. So that's what that is. That's a done deal now. Okay. So we're going to open up public comments for items that are on the agenda. Um, I have your cards in front of me. Uh, not very many today, so that's good. Um, Stephanie pointer, John green, Ashley Moreau, Sergeant Doss, uh, Sandra, Terrell, and, uh, James Ransom, actually then Sandra. Uh, Sandra, you'll be last, uh, Stephanie and John, would you queue up on the wall? Good morning, Ms. Pointer and your fall and your autumn orange. Okay. Good morning. Stephanie pointer, um, five and six are appointments to committees. Those appointments should be made for no more than three to six months after the person who is nominating them is going to be an office. We don't have a, we don't have a process, or at least I haven't seen a process for taking people out of appointed positions. We only have a process. We, we barely have a process for putting them into positions. So why are we putting people into positions for two years after the elected official that's nominating them is going to be gone? I don't get it. And I keep saying this. We need a consistent policy on committees. I talked to somebody yesterday. I think we need an art committee for the city of Tampa, um, charter review commission. The discussion last week was one of the most focused and productive that I've ever seen you guys do. You should be so proud of yourselves because that, that meeting, it just made the hair stand up on the back of my neck and I've meant to send you guys an email about it all week. Um, but we were missing somebody, the mayor, she should woman up and walk over. She should do it again today at one 30 and participate in the process as she should have. When you guys set up the charter review commission, you had two separate ordinances for it and she didn't want anything to do with it until after everybody sat down at the table, she should be participating in the government process with you guys. She should be here at one 30 today. Um, the committee brought up something that I think you guys may have missed, um, the evening meeting for a regular meeting once a month or once every two months, just to get people in here in the evenings. Number 63, the process when council woman, her tech was appointed to council was a pretty smooth process. I'll be honest with you. Um, I do want to point out to you that we had, I think there were 23 applicants and three of them didn't even live in the city. So this time it would probably be helpful if the clerk had a way to pre-approve those folks, because that was district wide, that was city wide. This is going to be for district seven only. So how many people are going to waste their time and energy applying for that position? And they don't even live in district seven. So that's something that's going to be very important. We don't want to waste everybody on the clerks staff time by allowing people who don't live in district seven to apply. The other thing I would like to recommend is last time we had that vote in the morning. Why not do it in the evening, do a special called evening event for it. And, um, that's all I have to say for now. I'll be back. I'll be back. Have a good day. Thank you. Good morning. Mr. Green. Good morning, John Green. Um, first of, first of, first and foremost, uh, we want to say on behalf of Bishop Michelle B Patty, who's unfortunately couldn't be here today because of prior obligations and myself wants to thank you all for the naming of the activity center at Williams Park and on behalf of Frank Reddick, uh, Frank Reddick was a good guy. He was a trailblazer in the community. Uh, he was quiet, but he was heard at the same time. So naming this center, uh, is this, this, uh, activity center for Frank Reddick. Um, we appreciate it. So that's all I really wanted to say, but to council woman young, you, the youngest on the days and I can appreciate you because you're opening up the doors and you're recognizing people in the community who probably wouldn't have ever gotten recognized. And this is what Frank was all about opening doors. He heard the people, he seen the people, so we can appreciate you. Keep doing what you're doing. Don't worry about nothing. We got you. Thank you. Mr. Green. Ashley followed by Mr. Doss. Good morning. My name is Ashley Morrow. I want to thank the city council for the opportunity to serve on the charter review commission. And I especially want to thank council woman Naya young for appointing me. Uh, I learned a lot serving on this commission, uh, including one very important thing. I am not a politician. Uh, what I am is someone who enjoys advocating for people who may not always have a voice or a seat at the table. I am grateful that some of the issues include including the inspector general position and improved project status reporting along with other amendments and recommendations developed by the commission were discussed last week. And it was a very productive meeting. So thank you all. Um, on the other, um, one other idea that came out of our discussions was holding an evening city council meeting once a month. I continue to believe that is worth considering many residents work during the day and simply do not have the ability to be here during regular city council hours. If we want people to participate in their local government, we should continue looking for ways to make participation more accessible. And while we're talking about accessibility, parking is another issue. I believe parking should be validated for members of the public who come downtown to speak during city council, especially when meetings run for several hours. You will be receiving an email from me very shortly regarding parking validation. Here's an example of other cities that do it. So we don't have to reinvent the wheel. Raleigh, South Carolina, Oakland Park, Florida, San Antonio, Texas, San Luis Obispo, California and Oakland, California. So I really want us to start considering that parking is going up, up, up. And I am self-employed. I do not have a veteran's license or whatever to, like, be able to get free validated parking. If I started adding up in the, here's, if you don't come down here, it's $4.50 an hour for the first hour, $3.50 if you renew. If you don't renew and you miss the mark, it's going to be another $4.50. I just had to do another $4.50 because I missed my mark. So I spent nine dollars, and if I want to stay here for public comment later, it's going to be an additional cost. So if we could figure out how we can get validated parking, I'll start making stickers for the people of the public who want to wear them when you come up. That would be amazing. Thank you. Thank you, Ashley. Mr. Doss, followed by Mr. Ransom. Yeah, Shagret Doss. I'm a discharge United States veteran, and I wanted to say I appreciate the strengthening of the item 65. I'm here about the Inspector General, of course. And I wanted to speak also about the whistleblower protection because too many people in public positions, I know, see things. And when I ask them, you know, you can report these things, and a lot of them will say, well, they fear repercussion or retaliation. And, of course, I'm not an attorney or pretend to be one. But, you know, sometimes the retaliation is easier to prove than the original issue. I actually learned that when I was dealing with litigation against United Parcel Service some years ago. But the other thing is we, to the people out here who are apathetic, you know, you lose democracies when people stop participating. And, which is why it was shocking to me to know that Tampa did not have an Inspector General. And I don't know what the ultimate salary will be for this individual or really what the real process is going to be to select this person. But this person has to have a kind of immunity from the people who are, one, going to put him in that, or her, in that position. And I candidly don't believe that the commission that helps to pick him should involve anybody in the judiciary. I really don't. Maybe I'm a little biased because I haven't seen a lot of ethics, particularly in this area, when it comes to that judiciary. And there's been some really questionable behavior from people who are supposedly honorable. So whatever it is or whatever it takes to give the Inspector General the variance to do what's necessary to hold people accountable. And then for those of us who elect these people and other people, and we're actually about a month away, right? In fact, I believe, doesn't early election? I mean, early voting starting in two weeks? Okay. But we'll get to that. But my point is, we have to participate into the young people. I would love to see more of you here. I know a lot of y'all are in school now. But if you happen to be a teacher and happen to be watching these things, maybe you ought to tune in for, you know, a few minutes every week to watch. Not just city council meetings, you know, the county commissioners meeting, town halls, whatever it takes to be more participatory in government. That being said, as always, I shout the greatest institution of higher learning in the city of Tampa, the University of Thomas Jefferson High School. Thank you, Mr. Dawson. Mr. Ransom. Good morning, Mr. Chair, city council members. First, I want to thank you for... Start with your name, sir. James Ransom. I'm representing the Tampa Organization of Black Affairs and chair of the Economic Development Committee. And I've got joining me a couple of members of our Saturday morning breakfast group, which all of you are aware of that organization as well. It's a sister group, a brother group of Toba. You know that we appreciate you and the fact that we send you sometimes voluminous information, but we try to conduct our way of communicating with you and the mayor and city staff after becoming well informed about whatever we want to talk with you about. And we try to do that in a way that's got civility and diplomacy as part of our process. We don't think it's productive to do it any other way. On the matter on 50, item 50 on the agenda, you know, this is the third time that came coming for city council for a second reading and we appreciate you holding that off until November the 5th. We have... I received a call this morning from the mayor on the way here, which was refreshing. We had a little chat. We'll continue to talk with the mayor and the city council member, the city attorney. We've given them not just a problem. We've not brought you a problem that we did not also offer solutions in addition to sharing with you our concern. It is going to be totally impossible for Toba, our organization, the Saturday morning breakfast group, as we represent the special interest of the black community to accept anything that's going to make it more difficult for the city to be equitable and fair in how it spends money with whom and for what when we represent part of the taxpaying community to happen to be black. And any other affected class that had been previously protected, whether it's Hispanic or Asian Americans or Alaskans or whomever, veterans or LGBTQ. It's just wrong to collect taxpayer money. And it's also wrong to discriminate by race and gender still in America. But we want to thank you this morning. Just to let you know, we appreciate it. And we'll continue to work on this to hopefully see the city attorney's office do a little more work to find a path, a legal path, not to discriminate and be fair and equitable to all of the taxpayers who represent the taxpayers in our community. And so with that, I just want to thank you for pushing this back a little bit and hopefully not doing it at all until we find the right way to do it for the right people, which is everybody. All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you, Chancellor. Okay. Our last public speaker on on agenda items is Sandra. Good morning, Sandra. Start with your name, please. Good morning, everyone. My name is Sandra Attila-Sterrell. First of all, thank you for allowing me or us to do some public speaking, especially welcome to the club that nobody wants to join. I'm two weeks post-op and for my second surgery, I have treatment tomorrow, so it's hard for me to come here and you don't understand the discomfort underneath all my clothing because again, two weeks post-op. So thank you for the opportunity to speak to you this morning. I'm going to be brief. Like I said, my name is Sandra Attila-Sterrell and I am the owner of SAT Industrial Supplies and Solutions. I did speak with you or to you about the opportunities the program, the EBO program has for our business. Today, I just want to reiterate my message. I want more small businesses to have that same chance. We know the program needs change. All we ask is that they are fair. Anyways, thank you so very much for the opportunity to speak to you today and have a great day. Thank you, Sandra. Best of luck with your recovery. Thank you. Okay. That concludes public comment for on agenda items. We're going to move on to board administration appointments. Is a Laureen Hero or a Henry Mosley in the room? No? Okay. Very good. Can I get a motion to approve the appointments of both Laureen Henry and Henry Mosley? A Hero. Sorry, Laureen Hero. Five and six. I have a motion from Councilman Vieira. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. Thank you. Councilman Ney Young. Would you please move items 9 through 12? Are there any requests for reconsideration? Are there any requests for reconsideration of legislative matters? Hearing none. Consent agenda. Item 7 through 8, Councilman Vieira. Yes, sir. And before I say that, Sandra, gracias de hablando de tu carazón, mi hermano boricua. Gracias. Gracias. Thank you. If I may, I move items 7 and 8. I have a motion from Councilman Vieira. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. Thank you. Councilman Ney Young. Would you please move items 9 through 12 and 14 through 18? I move items 9 through 12 and 14 through 18. Second. I have a motion from Councilman Young. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Councilman Maniscalco 19 through 22. I move items 19 through 22. Second. I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. I suffer from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. Thank you. Bill Carlson 25 through 41. I'm going to abstain from 31 and 40. I've had extensive conversations with Marty and we're going to go to the Ethics Commission. I don't think I have to recuse myself, but since my firm works with a company that may be related to this, we don't work on any of these issues related to the city, but I'm just going to recuse myself and abundance of caution. So I'll abstain from those, but I'll move 25 through 30 and then 32 through 39 and then 41. Okay. I have a motion from Councilman Carlson. A second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. Which items? 31 and 40. 31 and 40. All right. I move items 31 and 40. Thank you. All right. All right. All right. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I will have the forms for Councilmember Carlson to submit. We will anticipate. Okay. Since I stayed here, can we just get the clerk to read it? Sure. Yes. I'm sorry. I. Items 22 through 30, 32 through 39 and 41 are passed by Carlson and Maniscalco and items 31 and 40 passed with Carlson abstaining and her to be an absent. I vote. Okay. Thank you. Okay. 42 through 43. Councilman Maniscalco. So moved. 42, 43. I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Can I get a motion to set? 44, 46, 47, 48. Great. Substitutes for 44 and 46 as on your addendum. Okay. Substitutes. Well, actually they're not substitutes. No. It's just additional information. Yeah. Yeah. I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco to set the public hearings 44 and then 46 through 48. And a second from Councilwoman Young. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Very good. We are moving on to the 10 a.m. public hearings. Number 49. Mr. We've opened everything. We've already opened it. Okay. 49. Staff presenting? Michelle Van Lone. Okay. Do we need it? Do we need staff to present to that? It's the second reading. We don't need. Do you want to hold it? Good morning. I was looking for Ms. Van Lone to be here. Yeah. She's going to be here. Do you want to hold it for a few minutes and see if she shows up? Please. Should I hold it for a few minutes? Okay. Very good. We'll hold it for a few minutes. Thank you. Councilman. Councilman President. When we talked about 50 during agenda setting, you said you want to talk more about the t-shirt thing. Do you want to talk about it now since we're here? Let's get through the public hearings and then we'll do that. Okay. Let's get the people that are here for business and then we'll put a pin on that. We're definitely going to talk about it. Okay. So the other public hearings that we're talking about today are now quasi judicial. They require you to be sworn in. If you are here to speak to items 51 through 56, you're required to be sworn in. Please stand. Raise your right hand. And what's that? Yeah. Thank you very much. Item number 51 staff who's presenting for 51. I saw somebody online just a moment ago, but we're just like striking out here. Aren't we? I am 51. Could be these. The staff is not. Here we go. Good morning. Council. Apologies for the delay for your ethics and development coordination. Item number 51 is our easy 2620. This item is a request for reasoning for the property located at four seven zero six four seven zero eight four seven one zero West McElroy Avenue. The request is a result from RS 75 residential single-family 75 to PD plan development residential single-family semi-detached and single-family detached. I'm available if you have any questions. Council have any questions? Hearing none applicant. Is there an applicant? Hearing none. Is there anybody in the public that wishes to speak to this item? I have a motion to close. Councilman Maniscalco. Seven. Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. Oh, I'm sorry. Ma'am, my aide just told me you were here to speak to item 51. Yeah. Hold on. Okay. Can I get a motion to reopen the public hearings? I have a motion to reopen public hearings. Councilman Miranda. Second. Councilman. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. Ayes have it. Maybe we can get her a microphone. You want to just remain in your seat? If we can. Thank you. Thank you. If you would just start with your name, please. My name is Linda Erickson. Thank you. And I live at 4705 West Paul, which is directly behind the houses, the townhouses they want to build. And we flood. At rain, we flood the backyard. And I'm just worried about more flooding because, you know, we went through it with Helena. My whole house was, you know, destroyed. Um, I'm very concerned that the water is going to come in my backyard. And as you can see, I can't do anything about it. Especially now that I'm a widow. That, uh, if the water comes, I mean, in the past we've had as much as almost a foot of water in the backyard just from rain. So I don't know what seven townhouses is going to do and a two-story one behind me. That's my biggest concern. Very good. Very good. Uh, the applicant is not here for rebuttal, but is there's a staff? He wasn't. He's here. Yeah. He's not in the public. Has the applicant arrived in city council? Are you here? I, because I was, I couldn't get my video to work last time and he talked so fast. I couldn't understand a word he was saying. Are you the applicant, sir? But you're not the applicant. Who is representing him? Oh, I'm sorry. The applicant is here. Okay. He's coming through security. Okay. Is there anything else you'd like to add before your time is over? I'm sorry. Is there anything else you'd like to add? Because once your time is over, you're over and then I'm going to have the applicant is going to be able to come up and have a rebuttal. So this is your opportunity to speak. And if there's anything else, would you like to add? Mr. Chairman, maybe it'd be appropriate because the applicant's representative or the applicant is here. He, I don't believe you've heard what she had to say. Have you, sir? Okay. Okay. And I'm also worried about a two story building going behind me. You know, I mean, it's just going to, the flooding is the biggest issue. Okay. Very good. Okay. Is that it? That's it. Unless you have anything else to say. Where's the water going to go? Very good. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you. Was there anybody else in the public who wished to speak to this item? Good morning, Stephanie Pointer. Um, as I said during the first hearing, this is a problem. The problem is not necessarily with the single family homes, but with the townhouses that are over 50% impermeable surface. And again, I'm going to reiterate that this is a citywide issue, not necessarily this property issue. All of these houses flooded during the hurricane. So you're going to build up all these properties over 50%. And then, like this lady said, she's, and when I met with the people who proposed this two years ago, and I don't know if it was the same guy or not. I don't think it was. Be honest with you. I told them, you have to talk to your neighbors. You need to go have a conversation with your neighbors. I don't believe there was ever a public meeting about it. But the problem is it's not the single family homes that are less than 50%. It's that we allow single family attached, which are duplexes to go over the 50% mark. They put a bathtub in the backyard to hold the water. That's not going to cure this lady's issue. This is reality. All of that property flooded. And you can't blame the people who are selling this. What you have to do is mitigate for the Coastal Area Action Plan, which was mentioned in today's agenda. The Coastal Area Action Plan said that we should not be building with fill. We should not be going over 50% impermeable surface. Why is it that we keep approving projects that go against what FEMA says is best for our community? These homes flooded. So making a decision today about something that's going to make this lady's house flood worse is irresponsible at best. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, sir. Come to the podium and start with your name, please. You all have three minutes. My name is Edwin Clayton. The property is my property. The property that's in question here. I've lived there for 60 years. Well, actually 64 years. The water does not, water runs off. Linda, I helped her out of her house. I brought in filled dirt. I filled her backyard. Her yard, actually backyard, runs into my yard and then runs to the ditches. And when it rains, it runs pretty easy. She had a pool put back in her house years ago, which prevents the water from her yard running to her ditches in her front yard. It basically runs through my yard. And so in the flood, that was Elena. That was a tidal surge. It didn't matter what went on. I mean, it was like a nine foot tidal surge. I got flooded. All my houses got flooded. I had 13 inches of water in all my houses. And that's the reason why I'm selling to a developer. So a developer can come in, build stuff there that meets all the codes. My houses were built in 1956. They don't meet any of the current codes at all. Zero. So by building something new there, it'll upgrade the neighborhood. Whoever moves there will have a peace of mind because they won't have to worry about their house being flooded. So thank you. Thank you, sir. Anybody else in the public wish to speak to this item? Applicant rebuttal. Alex Rios with Rios Architecture. I did work with staff pretty diligently on proposing an approach to stormwater is shown on our site plan. There's a table on the bottom left that shows pervious and impervious calculations. And we have so much green space that we can do on site and surface retention on the property. I also, on the back of the property, we do have a note to call out for landscaping, which over time will eventually serve as a buffer for some of the concerns with stormwater draining onto adjacent properties. And serve as a private, the intent to, uh, intent for privacy. We had, we had, we had discussed the stormwater and runoff during the first public hearing, correct? Oh, we, we did go into it a little bit more detail. Yes. That thing got that. That was my recollection that this kind of thing. I'd been asked and answered. Okay. Very good. Anybody who had any questions? Hearing none. Well, I just. Councilman Miranda. I just been thinking more and more about this. Is it, is it, is it a question though? Pardon me. Is there a question before we close it and then we can have discussion? I'll wait to the end of the meeting cause I'm going to make some motion. Somebody going to like it. I really don't care. Okay. Just. If they like it or not. So we're not injecting evidence and. Can I just ask. Councilman Wilson. Mr. Attorney. Ms. Wells. Sorry. I know we've asked this question before, but just for the record, can, can testimony, that kind of testimony and in regard to stormwater, can that be competent substantial evidence on a case like this? So courts have. I'm sorry. Kate Wells, the legal department. Courts have found that factual testimony by neighbors is considered competent substantial evidence. So you wish you would have to weigh the testimony that you heard and whether it was factual in nature and then how it relates to the criteria in the code for approval of a rezoning application. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Councilman Carlson. I'm sorry. Councilman Miranda. But thank you very much. You know, I have a question. Question. Really, I'm questioning myself. The question is this. What if this council approves anything that's possible that may flood without realizing that it does flood? Does the property owner who buys the building, is that person could be liable for something that somebody passed that they knew at the time they were buying that they could flood? Who is that question poised to? Anybody can file a lawsuit. I understand that. But I'm saying who is that question poised to? To everybody, to a developer, to a lawyer, anybody who wants to answer it. Okay. Kate, Ms. Wells, would you like to come to them? I know it's a difficult question. It's an assumption of fact that could happen, that may happen. If it can't happen, it will happen. Kate Wells, legal department. I don't know that it's for me to answer that question. You're talking about private property rights. And hypotheticals. Councilman Vieira. Thank you, sir. I got a question, and this isn't for Ms. Wells. It's more of a, you know, we have this nice lady come before us with what is a very sincere question. You're as sincere as you get, and God bless you for that, and sharing that you're a widow and everything like that. And the applicant seems like a very nice shot. I remember you from last time. Is there a space where this, and we can have, for purposes of giving this nice lady respect, push this off a week so that these folks can talk, including with staff, because this was approved by Stormwater, et cetera, just to give the people here a little bit of respect. Mr. Shell Beacon, would you please address what this council should be considering today? And I intend to probably vote for this, but I think there's a right way to do this. If I recall this matter correctly, I believe the, well, no, the answer is you had your opportunity, and the chair told you that. But had you tried at the first hearing, but we couldn't get your microphone or camera on? Okay. She was trying to be here at first reading, so she took the opportunity to be here at second reading. Certainly, number one is this being a separate public hearing for the purposes of your case. It adds to if there is competent substantial evidence that you can address if it's relevant and necessary to your decision. But with regard to continuing this, the issue was that at first public hearing there was issues with regard to the stormwater as council chair has indicated. And again, you have heard that under your code, issues with regard to stormwater are handled at the permitting stage. Sometimes, in this case, you heard testimony that it is addressed, if necessary, on the site plan. And that, according to this testimony, has been done. But to, there is no provision in the code that would allow council without the consent or the desire of the applicant to be able to continue this. And it wouldn't be just for a week, frankly, because next week is CRA. So it would have to be continued for a minimum of two weeks. So my suggestion is that if you wish to raise the issue as a request, you certainly can. But there is no obligation under the code that would require council to do that at this time. Okay. So can I get a motion to close? Okay. We can discuss it after we close. But we can't. Can we make a continuous motion after we close? Yeah. All right. So let's leave it open. I suggest it would be. Well, you can't continue it unless the applicant wants to do that. Well, let me bring up Mr. Rios. Mr. Rios, would you be open to continuing this for two weeks considering she has several concerns that she did try to log in, you know, just to be fair? Yeah. And as Councilmember Vieira said, you know, just as to be as respectful as possible and see if anything else can be explained or worked out, any further details that have been left out. I'd have to kind of speak on the speak with the owner on that. Of course, I think there's good intent behind the request. I will say that the overall, I mean, I understand the broader concern of stormwater. I do think there's like, for a partial townhome and single family development, we have a lot of green space here. We have almost 50 percent, and, you know, we have the calculation on the left-hand side that shows our – that shows some of the additional regulations we had to bypass to – or comply with, excuse me, to – and on top of that, we have a landscape buffer at the back. So a rear neighbor would, over time, not – there's, you know, less of a chance of stormwater affecting their property. To answer the question, I'd have to speak with the applicant – the owner of the property. But, yeah. All right. You can hold it for that purpose. Yeah. Can we hold it? Go back to the redic, the previous one, since we have – and then come back to the – Michelle, that alone is still not here. She was here. She was here. She's here. Oh, she showed up. Okay. Off them. Where is she? Or is she? Councilman Crossan. Yeah, I just wanted – I just want to add in – I can't exactly count votes as I'm listening to everybody, but it seems like, you know, we approved on first reading. We probably would like to approve it, but the neighbor has very legitimate concerns, and it would help a lot if you all could meet with her and address those concerns. And ideally, when it comes back, she wouldn't have concerns. I'm going to – is Michelle Van Lone in the room? You are. Okay. Very good. Okay. We're going to hold this hearing for 15 minutes to give the interested parties an opportunity to sidebar outside. So once we're going to move on and have one more issue, when you guys are done with that sidebar, can you come back in? Yes, sir. If I may add, this isn't my first time speaking with her for content. Okay. I understand. To give the council folks that have concern, I'm going to give them that deference to allow you guys to have a sidebar conversation with you and the property owner and the concerned citizen. If you guys would take it out into the lobby. Sure. Have that sidebar. And when you're done, come back in, but we're going to move on to another agenda item while you have that, okay? Okay. Very good. Thank you. Okay, so we are moving on to item number 49. Recognize Michelle Van Lone. Good morning, Chair, City Council, Michelle Van Lone Real Estate. Thank you for your patience. This is a second reading of the ordinance to honor council member Frank Reddick for all of his service to both this council, the city of Tampa and to his community. This is a second reading. We do have Miss Nellie Brinson to represent the family who would like to say a few words on behalf of the honoree. And we also have community support for this. The chairman's going to step out and, well, before the vice chairman takes a go. I just want to say, as I've mentioned before about council member Reddick, who's always been a friend to me. He was always very supportive of me when I first won back in 2015. And I'll never forget that. And my office is actually council member Reddick's office and his desk or my desk is his desk. I never changed the furniture. I just changed the frames on the wall because, you know, things change. But other than that, you know, same chair, same desk, same everything. And I do it, you know, just to remember him, you know, knowing that he sat there. And I don't want to change anything because he was very special to me and very special to many people in this community. I attended his funeral. I actually stopped by Rest Haven not too long ago to pay my respects. And another colleague, council member, former council member, Harry Cohen. We all served together. He was asking me, you know, so he could pay his respects. So we always remember him. And this is a small token of appreciation that we can do to remember council member Reddick, who did so much with sickle cell, with the city council as president. Well, I'll tell you another story before I pass the gavel. Council member Reddick and I were at a candidate forum in 2011 because I ran the first time, but I didn't win. And we were in Palmetto Beach, Ybor City, Palmetto Beach. It was like a joint candidate forum. And he tells me because we have like 25 city council candidates. He goes, I'm the only city council candidate that's president of their neighborhood association. And that inspired me to get more involved in my neighborhood association in West Tampa. And I later became president. So, you know, he's, he's, you know, he's touched a lot of lives. He's touched my life, you know, significantly. And I, I, you know, I'm very grateful to him. So I will pass the gavel. There you go. Thank you. Who is next? Okay. Yes. Mr. Reddick, if I may. Oh, you all still need to, do you want to wait until after the presentation? I'll wait. Okay. So, excellent. Um, go right ahead. Thank you. Thank you. Please start with your name. I am Nellie Brinson, cousin of former councilman, Frank A. Reddick, standing with other cousins, Louis and Bev Brinson, and Rick Grays, and Northview Hills community members, Ms. Sherrilyn Levy, association president. On behalf of Mr. Reddick's family, Northview Hills community, friends and associates, we wish to thank the Tampa city council members and director Ms. Michelle Van Lone and staff for approving the naming of the activity center building at Williams Park after Mr. Reddick. There's no greater obstacle in the way of success in life than trusting for something to turn up instead of going to work and turning up something. That is what Frank did. He took great pride in striving to help implement various improvements for his Northview Hills neighborhood as well as for people living in the city of Tampa. Again, on behalf of the family of Mr. Reddick, thank you. Thank you so much. Um, yes. I can only say this. I had a pleasurable time working with him. And, um, I've been spoke at the Wake. And I remember about Frank Moses that the nickname that I'd get him when they were coming out of the office and I looked at him and I said, Frank, you remind me of something. He said, of what? And I said, Silent Thunder. Nobody hears you until it's too late. Because after that, you have him. And I really enjoyed working with him. He was a wonderful, wonderful human being. That's all I can say because that's what he was. He was a loving guy that loved everybody. And he did very well for what he did for the community every single day. So I was honored to sit next to him and have the office closed to him. Thank you. Council member Carlson. Yeah, it's a, it's a big loss not to have him around anymore. Um, uh, I, I, as an activist before I got on council, uh, he was a mentor and we also talked about issues all the time. I was proud to be part of the community effort to push to get him to become chair. What was he? Three times chair. I can't remember twice, um, but he did a great job of that. And, um, uh, he, um, he always stood up for what, um, what he believed in. There were a lot of big fights in the community, um, without going into all the details. There are a lot of big fights in the community where he stood up for what was right. And we in the community organized folks to help support him. And he was always on the, on the, on the side of right. And then, uh, when I got on council, he all, he would regularly call me with his opinions too. And I appreciated it, uh, because sometimes he would give me insights that didn't have. Sometimes he would tell me that it is something wrong, which I appreciate, or, you know, something he disagreed with. And, and sometimes he called just to, just to talk. And I appreciate the other way too, where I could call and get his advice because of his tenure and wisdom. He knew a lot of things that we kind of newbies didn't know. And, um, and even when his health was declining, he still would pick up my call. And sometimes he would call me and I appreciate him and miss him so much. And I appreciate everybody working at name something after him. Thank you. Yes. Um, I feel like the, the theme for today is honoring people, great people, um, in our community. And so, um, it gave me great pleasure to, um, to do this motion, but also to continue Mr. Frank Frederick's legacy. I think you could tell a lot about a person, about what people say about them. And as you can hear, um, what the other council members have said, he was a great man. And, um, this is just a small token of our gratitude for everything that he has done, um, for the community. So I'm looking forward to seeing this community center. Thank you all so much for, for being here. Councilman Vieira. Uh, thank you, uh, Mr. Chairman. And it's good to see everybody, including, uh, NAACP unsung hero, Vivian Kitchen. Good to see you, ma'am. Can't wait for Saturday. Um, but you know, I'm glad this is coming forward and, and Councilman Reddick, I served with him for about two years. And I, I remember a story that always sticks out with me is we were getting, um, briefed on the, uh, the ferry, inner bay ferry. And we had a person who was here presenting. I forgot who it was, but Councilman Reddick says, how much, um, promotion have y'all done for this ferry in East Tampa? And they can answer the question. He goes, how many black folks ride the ferry? He asked that. And the guy was like, you know, he just, it, and, and it kind of changed my perspective on the ferry a little bit. It did by him just asking that question. I remember another time he had his opinions on Ybor city, the roosters, the chickens and all that stuff. And he, and we had, we had a staff briefing on it. And, you know, sometimes you say things in the minute you say things, you're like, why did I say that? And I said, why don't we do a workshop on this? And he like stopped and he went to workshop on chickens. He goes, what are you thinking, Lewis? You know? So he was a, he was a nice gentleman. So I'm, I'm glad to see this through. And so, but God bless you guys. Thank you. You know, councilman Reddick was a friend of mine. He was, he was a great, I tell you, sometimes he wasn't so nice. He was a fighter. I mean, he, he, he, he bit onto an issue. He didn't let go. And he made sure that he was fighting for the people that he represented and fighting for the city and the values that he represented. He really, truly was a role model and it's good to see him as Christians, but yeah, we're very, very happy to do this. And thank you, Councilwoman Young for bringing this forward. Very good. Thank you. Okay. Yes, we do. Councilwoman Young. Thank you. File number HN 26-26534. Ordinance being presented for a second reading and adoption and ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida approving the naming of the activity center at Williams Park located at 4362 East Osborne Avenue in Tampa, Florida to honor Frank A. Reddick providing an effective date. I have a motion from Councilwoman Young. I have a second from Councilman Miranda. Roll call vote, please. Vera. Yes. Carlson. Yes. Miranda. Yes. Minnescago. Yes. Hertech. Yes. Young. Yes. Clendenin. Yes. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Okay. Very good. No, that is, that is still in process. No, go back. Mr. Brains, I'm still on the call. Good to see you, Mr. Brains. Yep. Yep. Yep. How are they looking at back there, Mr. Shelby? Can you see Alex Rios in the museum? No, that's not until after we do this. Okay. Let's move on to 52. Item number 52, is there staff? Yep. Christopher. My apologies. No worries. Good morning, Council. Christopher DeManch with Development Coordination. Agenda item 52 is REZ 2623. This is a rezoning request for the property located at 104 South Tampani Avenue and 2522 West Kennedy Boulevard. This request is a rezone from planned development to plan development to allow for medical office and business professional office uses. Revisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerk's office. I'm available for any questions. Does Council have any questions? Hearing none. Does Council have any questions? Hearing none. Hearing none. Does Council have any questions? Hearing none. Does Council have any questions? Hearing none. Hearing none. There you go. Thank you so much. Okay. Is there an applicant? Go ahead. Good morning, Council. Clay Matthews, 100 South Ashley Drive, Suite 850. Here, if you have any questions. Otherwise, we respectfully request approval and second reading. Does Council have any questions? Hearing none. Is anybody in the public who wishes to speak to item 52? Okay. I have a motion to close to Councilman Miranda. Second for Councilman Heretic. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. I said, Councilman Carlsson, would you like to read item 52? I thought we'd know. All those in favor are closed and say aye. Aye. Opposed. All those in favor are closed and say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. and second from Councilor Menescalco. Roll call, please. Menescalco? Yes. Hurtec? Yes. Young? Yes. Vieira? Yes. Carlson? Yes. Miranda? Yes. Clendenin? Yes. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. 53. Again, for the record, Christopher DeMontsch, development coordination. Item 53 is REZ 2634. This is a reserving request for property located at 4400, 4410, and 4488 West Boy Scout Boulevard. The request is a reserving from planned development to planned development. For bank with drive-thru, office, business professional office, hotel with accessory, commercial, restaurant, and bar lounge. Revisions have been completed and revised. Certified plans have been submitted to the clerk's office, and I'm available for any questions. Any questions? Hearing none. Applicant? Good morning. Benjamin Stronzel for the applicant. I'm here to answer any questions you guys may have. Otherwise, we request approval. Does the council have any questions? The applicant hearing none. Anybody in the public wish to speak to this item? I have a question. Closed. Councilwoman Hurtec. Second, Councilman Miranda. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. Councilman Vieira. Yes, sir. Move into orders presented for second reading. Adoption ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 4410, 4400, 4488 West Boy Scout Boulevard in the city of Tampa. More particularly described in section 1 from zoning district classification, PD, planned development, PD, 2, PD, planned development, bar lounge, bank, drive-in, hotel, office, restaurant, and all commercial commercial general CG uses providing an effective date. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I have a motion from Councilman Vieira. Second, Councilman Maniscalco. Roll call, please. Hurtek. Yes. Young. Yes. Vera. Yes. Carlson. Miranda. Yes. Meniscalco. Yes. Clendenin. Yes. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning, Council. Brea Dixon development coordination. Agenda item 54 is REZ 2661. This item is a rezoning request for a property located at 205 South Fremont Avenue. The request is to rezone from RM16 residential multiple family to PD plan development residential single family, semi-detached, and single family detached. Provisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerk's office. I'm available if you have any questions. Council have any questions, hearing none, applicant. Steve Michelinie representing the petitioner. This was the one site plan that you requested that the driveway length be lengthened from 18 to 20 feet and that has been done and certified by the city staff respectfully requesting approval. Okay. Council have any further questions? No. Okay. Hearing none. Anybody in the public wish to speak for this item? Second. Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Yes. Councilman Young. You have to order. File number REZ-26-61. Ordinance being presented for a second reading and adoption in ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 205 South Fremont Avenue in the city of Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in section one from zoning district classification RM16 residential multifamily to PD plan development residential single family detached and semi-detached. Second. Providing an effective date. I have a motion from Councilman Young. Councilman Miranda roll call please. Young. Young. Yes. Vera. Yes. Carlson. Miranda. Yes. Menescalco. Yes. Hertech. Yes. Move the resolution. Okay. Motion from Councilwoman Young to move the resolution associated with 54. Second from Councilman Manescalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. The ayes have it. Thank you. 55. Development Coordination. Agenda item number 55 is REZ 2664. This is a rezoning request for property located at 6200 and 6202 Interbay Boulevard, 6206 South 6th Street, 6205 and 6207 South Martindale Avenue. Requests to rezone property from planned development to planned development for residential single family detached uses. Provisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerk's office. I'm available for any questions. Council have any questions? Hearing none. Hop along. Thank you. Applegate. Matt Newton, 101 East Kennedy Boulevard on behalf of the petitioner. I'm happy to answer any questions. Council have any questions? Hearing none. Hearing none. Anybody in the public wish to speak to this item? Can I get a motion to close? Motion to close. Motion to close. Councilman Radicek and Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. The ayes have it. Councilwoman Hurtuk. File number REZ 26-64. Ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption. An ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 6200 and 6202 Interbay Boulevard, 6206 South 6th Street and 6205 and 6207 South Martindale Avenue in the city of Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in Section 1 from Zoning District Classification PD, Plan Development, Residential, Single Family Detached to PD, Plan Development, Residential, Single Family Detached, providing an effective date. I have a motion from Councilwoman Hurtuk, a second from Councilman Vieira. Roll call vote please. Carlson? Miranda? Yes. Menescargo? Yes. Hurtuk? Yes. Young? Yes. Viera? Yes. Motion passes unanimously. Again, for the record, Christopher Damage, Development Coordination, Agenda Item Number 56 is REZ 26-66. This is a rezoning request for property located at 2910 East Clark Street. Request is to rezoned from RM16 to Plan Development for residential single-family attached uses. Provisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the Clerk's Office. I'm available for any questions. Council have any questions? Hearing none. Applicant? Roncliffe, applicant owner. Here for any questions. Anybody have any questions? Hearing none. Anybody in the public wish to speak to this item? Motion to close. Councilman Hurtuk, second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Councilman Maniscalco. I have an ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption and ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 2910 East Clark Street in the city of Tampa, Florida, more particularly described in section one from zoning district classification RM16 residential multifamily, multiple family to PD Plan Development residential single-family attached, providing an effective date. Second. Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. Roll call, please. Miranda. Yes. Maniscalco. Yes. Hurtuk. Yes. Young. Yes. Vera. Carlson. Yes. Clendenin. Yes. Motion passed unanimously with VRB and abstinent vote. Thank you. Okay. How's the progress outside? Mine's different. How is the progress? Yeah, bring them in. Yes. Okay. 57. Staff ready for 57. Melanie Calloway, Mobility. I'm here for the Brick Street removal. You may recall I was in front of you in October of 2024 for our first block of Tweak Street between Ashley and Tampa. This part will be from Tampa to Florida, and I'll show you what we're going to do on Tweak. Tweak Street will remain brick. It will remain brick all the way from Ashley all the way to Florida. That wall will remain brick. We just were removing some brick here. I'm going to call this the Sam and Eddie's block. This block, we're removing some brick here where the current parking spaces are because we're going to widen that sidewalk, make it larger. As you can see, we're still going to have on-street spaces, both on the north and south side. The next block is the block between Franklin and Florida. That will be, again, the brick street will remain brick, but the parking on the north and south side, as well as there's going to be now a cycle track that will run all the way to Nebraska. That's pretty much it. I have Riley Parks, who is the project manager on this for mobility. Do you have any questions? Do you have any questions? I mean, we heard this. We already heard this. This is 2.0. So this is the first reading. We'll come back with a second reading for resolution. Is that how it has? No, it's ready. That's it? It's only one reading. Okay. Very good. That's all we need to do? Yep. Just approval. Very motion to approve. Approved. There's no associated resolution. Is there anybody in the public who wish to speak to this item? Hearing none. Okay. But close. I have motion to close to Councilman Miranda. Second. Councilman Scott. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. I have it. What do we approve if there's no resolution? A motion to approve the request. A motion to approve the request. Second. I have motion from Councilwoman Herbzak. Second. Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. I have it. Thank you so much. Okay. We're back to item number. Mr. Rios. Oh, thank you. Okay. I'm going to defer. Mr. Shelby reference our conversation. If you wouldn't mind, I would like you to kind of recapture that. And then if I need to fill in the blanks, I will. And then, and Councilwoman Herbzak was only present for portion of the hearing. Since she did not hear all the evidence, she is going to step out and she will be absent at vote, just FYI. Mr. Chairman, did you want to recap what the vote was at first reading? Okay. So for item number 51, this hearing was held and it was a unanimous vote to move to second reading. There's a couple of things I'd like to clarify. Were there any waivers associated with this item? That's a question for staff. As I was staring over at staff. Okay. I see you're online. Ms. Dixon, was there any waivers associated with 51? There were no waivers. Thank you. Mr. Shelby. Mr. Chairman, there may have been a misunderstanding that Council could grant or Council had the authority to initiate a request to continue this. And after discussion, Mr. Chairman, I just want to share what in the discussion it became clear that there was a confusion. I just want that to be clear to Council that the case is ready to be heard. There has been testimony. And I just want to be clear that at this point in time, with regard to staff, staff's role in this case is complete. So for them to take a continuance for the purpose to talk with staff is not appropriate. Staff has, this case has been through the design review committee. They have generated a report. They have issued their recommendation. And that would not be an appropriate purpose for a continuance. So that being said, I just wanted it to be clear that it is not a code requirement at this point in time at second reading, because of whatever testimony was taken, that a continuance would necessarily be in order. Okay. So for the applicant and for the owner and the concerned citizen on this issue, so what you're hearing is we had a first reading where we heard competent substantial evidence. And this, of course, is the second. Now we heard your evidence today that you provided as an adjacent homeowner. We take all of that evidence and we take it into account. And then we move forward on a decision based on that. Just so you know, the first, with all the evidence that we had on the first reading, the decision was unanimous. So we're going to call, we would call for a vote today. Um, did you want to hear from the petitioner? Is there any, would you guys like to add, petitioner, would you like to add anything? Would y'all like to add anything? The petitioner. We can hear you. Yeah, we can hear you. Go ahead. I'm going to give you the deference for disability. Well, I spoke to a gentleman and he assured me that there was only going to be a first story, a one story house behind me. Okay. Not the two story house behind me, which makes me happy. Okay. And he said that elevation, the foundation is going to start at six feet. So that won't be above mine, but I know that was going to happen. But I thought it was. Okay. So that makes me happy. He also said that, that they have to address the drain, the storm water. And if they don't, they will rectify. Mr. Rios, would you like to come to the podium, please? Would you like to answer the question that she just said for the record, please? Uh, sure. Yeah. The, uh, just, uh, just for context, her property is very close, not quite in alignment, but very close to the east side of the proposed seven units. Um, it is not, uh, entirely the single story. It's more like half and half. You know, if you, if you're standing in her backyard, you'd see a single story on the right, you'd see a two story on the left, just for, just to clarify that portion there. Um, uh, with the storm water. Yes. It is something we have to comply with code. There are no waivers for stone stormwater. I have to fully comply with code. And again, out of, you know, yes, there are townhomes on this prop on this property. But again, there's like, just, this is very different than a traditional high density town home development. There's the overall site has is less than 50% hardscape. So. I'm sorry. I can't hear. I see the caption, but I didn't hear the question. Okay. It was, can you confirm the testimony that was provided reference? There was, there was two assertions that were made one about the layout of the homes that the two story versus this, the app, the concerned citizen and her home, what was going to be behind her that she was going to be basically half and half, half, half would be a single story. Half would be a two story. And that stormwater would be dealt with them. I think we all know that as stormwater is dealt with, you know, has to be dealt with. So. If I can share my screen for one moment. Yes, please. Here is a vicinity map of the subject parcels. I'm not sure exactly which house the applicant is. Is it on the Eastern side? So maybe it's this one here, but this would have five is your home. So, so the 4705 Paul, can you tell what the addresses are? And I can't read them. One second. I can add an additional map. So the parcels here in red are the subject property is 470 part Paul on the Eastern or the Western side. It's on the South side. On the South. Ma'am, which home is yours? It should be third from the right. Third from the right. So the one with the like sidewalk and driveway and the car in the driveway. Right. Okay. I cannot miss that one. That's your parcel. And, and can you, and Mr. Rios, can you come to the podium and explain what the development will be behind? It's fine. Yeah. Well, just so the right, there's three parcels highlighted. The right one is around 113 feet wide. The single story home will take up the right 65 feet of that one. Okay. And then adjacent to that is a, as a 50 foot wide lot with a two story structure. So it's like, you know, you can get, you could see both from there. I understand. Okay. Very good. Sorry. Okay. Is everybody satisfied and everybody happy? This is highly unusual, but yes. Go ahead. Yes. Water for the entire site, uh, for all seven units, not just, uh, sitting. Okay. Okay. Can I get a motion to close? I have a motion to close. Councilman. I have a second. Councilman. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. The ayes have it. Okay. Very good. Um, councilman Miranda. Second. Second. Councilman. I have a motion. Councilman. Second. Councilman. Maniscalco. Police roll call. Please. Miranda. Yes. Meniscalco. Yes. Her tech. Young. Viera. Yes. Carlson. Yes. motion passes unanimously with her tech. May 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10. I have a motion. I have a motion from council. Miranda second. Councilman. Maniscalco. Please roll call vote, please. Miranda. Yes. Maniscalco. Yes. Her tech. Young. Yes. Vieira. Yes. Carlson. Clinton. Yes. Motion passes unanimously with her tech being absent that vote. Thank you very much. Okay. Let's move on to 58. Good morning. Rebecca Jones legal department. This is the first reading of an ordinance granting a franchise to a Robles Park, LLC, Robles Park, Village Development Group, LLC, and RPV parcel DLP. City code prohibits any person to use public right of way for services unless they have been granted a franchise. So for the Robles Park affordable housing development, which is now under construction, there is a stormwater pipe that goes from their private property across the right of way to their private property. This really isn't what you see when we talk about franchise agreements. Usually this is for somebody like Verizon or Frontier. However, in this circumstance, it meets the code requirement that there be a franchise. So this would grant Robles a franchise to have the stormwater pipe across the right of way, and they would pay a franchise fee to the city of $2,500 a year for 20 years. Okay. I'm here if you have any questions. The developer's council is here if you have any questions. Councilor, I have any questions? Hearing none. Hearing none. Is there anybody in the public that wishes to speak to this item? Move to close. I have motion to close. Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Carlson, would you like to read this, please? Move item number 58, file number DA 26 test 26530. Ordinance being presented for first reading consideration. Ordinance granting to Robles Park, LLC, Robles Park Village Development Group, LLC, RPV, parcel DLP, its successors, and assigns a non-exclusive franchise to use a portion of North Avon Avenue and the city of Tampa to construct, access, and maintain stormwater improvements. Second. Prescribing the terms and conditions under which said non-exclusive franchise may be exercised, providing for servility, providing effective data. I have a motion from Councilman Carlson. I have a second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. Thank you. Okay. We're going to go to off-agenda item public comment. Do I need to state the date? What's that? The date. For free? Yeah, go ahead. Second year in adoption date will be held on October 15, 2026 at 10 a.m. in City Council Chambers, 315 East County Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602. You're sitting there so quiet, I forgot. Okay. This is your opportunity for off-agenda item public comment concerning City of Tampa business. If you're here to speak to off-agenda items, your name should appear on this list. I'm going to read the first few names so that you can be queued up. Stephanie Pointer, Mr. Hayes, and then Ashley Moreau. Remember, this is off-agenda items but related to City Council business. Ms. Pointer? Good morning. Stephanie Pointer. I want to remind everybody while I get my ducks in a row that the last day to register to vote is October the 5th and you can register online. So, I wanted to talk just for a couple minutes about this list. This is the CIP which stands for Capital Improvement Projects for the City of Tampa. This list is for Parks and Rec Only. Anybody see anything that starts with an S? Oh, wait. Salinas Park is on there. But that's the only one that starts with an S on there. But yet, I found this little nifty piece of information about Swan Park Improvements. And I really want you to pay particular attention to this little map right here. Hopefully, it will clear up. Notice this is a park that is close to the expressway in between the new Aldi and the expressway. But what's funny is that when I Googled Swan Park this morning, there's already a Swan Park in the City of Tampa. It's over here in Bayshore Beautiful. I think, right. Yeah. No. I'm sorry. Beach Park. Thank you. Where did this thing come from? Why is it here? Why are... Why have neighbors not been consulted about it? Where... Why is it being discussed? I think it's six to eight million dollars. Okay. The first list that I saw of Rob and Peter to pay Paul for this park right here. Now, mind you, I don't want anybody to say that this area has not gotten any funding because Kate Jackson's playground was completely redone in the last two years. I would also like to point out that this is the second list. I received a list last last week that had a couple of Sulphur Springs projects on it. And then everybody went back paddling. And no, no, we're not going to take the money from Sulphur Springs anymore. But now we have this new park on Swan called Swan Park. Who's in charge of this? Because why are we naming parks that are already named parks? Um, but I'm looking at some of this and it makes no sense. Dock replacement. Don't you think that might be a safety issue that should be addressed before we build something new? Oh, restrooms and storage. My goodness. We need to be spending our money on restrooms at parks that already exist. We've got, don't get me started on these veterans memorials. I live with a veteran and I still have a big issue with them. The $300 that you, $300,000 that you spent on the one in Port Tampa was BS at best. Um, Wellswood church, which has been promised for years playground surfacing to protect our children. Um, I want to know what's going on with this Swan Park. This is shady AF. It is shady. We all know it's shady because if it wasn't, guess what? It would be on this list right here. I have an issue with this showing up out of nowhere. Where'd it come from? Please explain it. Please ask the right questions. Thank you. Ask somebody to come and present where the money's coming from. Thank you, Ms. Boehner. Rob, Peter. Cairo. Ruff, Ruff. Hey, Cairo. Hello, hello. Grant rising. Good morning. City council woman, city council man, Mr. Hayes, president of Cairo and friends. Um, first and foremost, I just want to acknowledge, uh, Ms. Hurtek. Thank you very much for sharing your journey and being courageous and so forth. And with allowing this whole morning has been positive. I, I don't want to get a trip over my words, but there was an incident that happened roughly two weeks ago. And with the sediment that has happened today, I could not see what individuals would have more than likely been subjected to. It's very concerning that this is a place for the public and for the public to have the opportunity to speak and feel safe. And I don't know all the details that happened, but for that individual to be a professional athlete. And I'm talking about Mr. Sapp, Mr. Warren Sapp for him to be arrogant. And at the same time, he should not be ignorant. It shows that, um, our community should do better. And I am aware of the public's aware of his more than likely frivolous lawsuit that he's followed and followed against the city of Tampa will probably be. Uh, met with a dismissal due to the fact of this place has regulations and it's to be a peaceful place for the community to have an opportunity to speak and not feel and fear anything. And I know there'll be some people that will disagree about my remarks, but there's videos out there for the gentleman to be flicking off, uh, city council members and so forth. It's just, uh, distasteful. And for his stature, for his, um, what he has to offer, it's just very confusing. But let alone with that, I just want to highlight what we were able to do this weekend at Curtis-Sixson Park. And thank you very much, uh, the Glazier Children's Museum. Uh, this was their 16th birthday bash. We've participated in four of them and through just long, hard work, perseverance, and dedication, they allowed us to be, uh, main attraction. But here's a 22 second clip of just some fun activities with the children. So that, that was just an activity. He was over there. Uh, he wasn't playing with them though, but, uh, I just wanted to highlight that. And once again, thank you, Glazier Children's Museum for allowing us to be, uh, and, uh, a highly attraction nonprofit organization. And again, thank you, city council members, women, and y'all have a great day. And today was just a beautiful sediment. And I do want to leave with this. Miss Ashley, we need to come up with something because I'm out about $20 right now with parking. We could work some type of a voucher program across the street. What is that? The Hyatt right there or something? I, you know, I love you. Put your time's up. Oh, I'm sorry. I did not even know that. Thank you. Thank you for your love. Bye buddy. Bye. Thank you very much. Bye my friend. Ashley Morrow followed by Sir Grant Doss. Hello. My name is Ashley Morrow and I'll be sharing Tampa's black history. So, um, where we left off last time, Clara Fry's Negro Hospital and that amazing bust exhibit that is on the Riverwalk. One of the claims connected to Clara Fry's that she operated the first black hospital in Tampa. That is actually not true. Um, there was an earlier hospital and notice I did not say that it was Tampa's first black hospital either because I'm still researching that. So let's not get stuck on the who was first. What I do want to do is introduce you to the earlier hospital that existed before Clara Fry's. This hospital was associated with a man named by somebody I've been mentioning over and over again, Thomas McKnight. And as early as 1899, Clara Fry got started in 1907, a newspaper article reports tell us that Thomas McKnight and other leading black citizens sent communication to Tampa City Council, stating that they were engaged, they were engaged in what the newspaper described as a laudable effort to establish a charitable hospital for black residents. They asked the city either to donate a lot or give them favorable terms for purchasing one in the Mitchell subdivision along Florida Avenue to use as the hospital site. One councilman, Mr. Holmes, said he believed the council should be liberal with the proposal because an institution like this was badly needed. But Chief Harris informed council that the lot they were requesting had already been purchased by the city for the purpose of a fire station. So the matter was referred to the fire committee. About a week later, another newspaper report said that Mr. Webb recommended that the lot requested by the organizers of the Kellard Hospital be leased to them without charge and that the city attorney prepare the necessary paperwork. Then the following month, a resolution was adopted donating the use of the city lot on Nebraska Avenue in India as the site for the proposed hospital for black residents while the city retained ownership of the property. Now we're going to go into the 1900s just a little bit because we still have not left the 1800s yet. We're still in 1899. By the next year, Thomas McKnight was asking for the city for asking the city for a gas lamp at what was described as the new colored hospital at the corner of Nebraska and India Street. Now a couple weeks ago, a couple weeks ago, I talked about Tampa's smallpox scare. We're back in 1899. During that period, doctors were deputized to report people who refused vaccination. So we had an anti-vaxxer here. Her name was Rosa Jackson and she was assaulted by a Tampa police officer named Officer Woodard. Forget his first name right now. Um, and officer Woodard was talked about by a black reporter in his paper and that black reporter was murdered in a bar. And we'll talk about that next week. Thank you. Thank you, Ashley, as always. Mr. Doss followed by Robin Lockett followed by Carolyn Quinn. Anyway, a cigarette Dawson, a city business that I don't think the city's taken care of and it goes to 24 and 65. I know what it's like, uh, to battle giants with nominal resources and uh, for nearly 20 years. Now economic necessity. I've represented myself, um, from Hillsborough County court houses to the United States Supreme Court. And I understand that you don't win by shouting on social media. Uh, you win with sweat equity and change doesn't require violence. Uh, but it does require commitment to those who are on social media. I'm here, I'm here to tell you that anybody can shout safely from a box. Okay. That ain't hard to do. Uh, change is also the reciprocity of revolution and revolution doesn't have to be violent. The book says we're surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses and my heroes marched. They sat in, they stood at podiums like this one right here and they were demonstrators and they demonstrated often at a great cost, uh, personal cost. Uh, they didn't screen from safe, safe distances and they participated up close. I decided to put a couple of my own cases to the side, uh, to do what I think is a greater work. Uh, and to those who've been told that this building isn't for you, it is particularly in our community. Um, every rule that touches your lives and your children's lives is made in a room like this, whether it's here at the state level or otherwise. And you don't need a law degree. You just need to sign a damn signup sheet and use your three minutes. Um, to you all in office, uh, the tools are already there and y'all sometimes refuse to use them. And I say, take the DR and child support. And I know when the state gets it wrong, real people pay. And it's cost people their licenses, their jobs, their relationships, and many people, their peace of mind. And I know the council can't control the state agency, but you can pass a resolution asking the legislator, the legislative auditing committee for an audit and take it to the Hillsborough legislative delegation. Place that resolution on a future, uh, agenda for the people. And to the people out there watching, as I said before, why don't y'all come on down here? I mean, if you can't come down here, shoot, sign up online. You can do that from the comforts of your phone. Um, in that book, a lot of folks love to thump, uh, the most highs. He said, you know, he reached out for a man to stand in the gap for the people. And sometimes people look to you all to be somebody to stand in the gap for somebody else. Um, he didn't find any. And unfortunately, we're not finding a lot of people who stand in the gap for other people. To the public, anybody can rent, anybody can talk online. Let's find somebody to stand in the gap for the people, especially these young people. Shout out to the greatest institution of higher learning in the city of Tampa, the University of Times Jefferson High School. Thank you, Mr. Doss. Robin Lockett, followed by Carolyn, followed by Fran Tate. Uh, good morning, counsel. This will be quick. So first, I want to do something fun. Don't walk out the door yet. The greatest institute is Tampa Bay Tech. Was and still is today. Uh, but I wanted to, uh, thank counsel for, uh, approving the ordinance today in regards to Frank, uh, Reddick. Uh, great human being ran the sickle cell, uh, uh, agency, but it was well deserved. So thank you, uh, Councilwoman Naya Young for, uh, charging forward with that. Uh, cause a lot of times, you know, people don't receive their flowers when they're, when they're here and they can't. So it's left for the family to receive the flowers when they're gone. So I appreciate that. Um, I want to also thank the, I'm full of thankfulness today. Charter review board. You know, I think that, um, their effort was grand. I think that, uh, there, there were good things that came out of that, uh, those meetings, especially, um, the inspect. Is it an inspector general inspector general? I really think that that was the, for me, that was the best thing. Right. Because, uh, again, it allows council to move forward. And I want to thank, uh, Ashley Monroe. I mean, Morrow for, uh, her being the chair, selecting the chair, sitting in it, being new at it, understanding it and moving that group forward. So I appreciate that. Um, and I already did my clarity, uh, my, uh, clarity about who's the greatest institution. So, uh, thank you, council. That's all I have. Robin, do you know, do you know which, um, school in Hillsborough County has the highest graduation rate with a 99.1%? With a, with a, with a 76% of, uh, students on free and reduced lunch. I am not going to separate you. But you know, but you know, the interesting thing. So I graduated from Tampa Bay tech in 82. I didn't realize the importance of us going with us because I lived in Robles Park. We had to get up at six o'clock in the morning to get to school on time. But that process, we let, we were intentional on leaving our, our community school because I was slated to go to Hillsborough. And so we didn't have the camaraderie of our community school. We had to build a commodity commodity about, uh, with Tampa Bay tech. That's why our alumni today is so strong because we built family with that. And it still goes today. So I'm a proud graduate, not a, uh, I'm a sit sideline. I still participate, still, uh, involved, and I'm a proud graduate of Tampa Bay tech. Do I need to have somebody escort you? And I play basketball for tech. Okay. Uh, Carolyn followed by friend. Carolyn, are you here? Yes. Start with your name, please. Hi. Yes. My name is Caroline Quinn. Um, I also go by Carrie for a first name or was new ski for a last name. So I wasn't going to try that part. Yeah. Good call. Um, so I, I live at 3220 West Granada street. Uh, I'm here cause I am concerned about. Um, water main construction has had on my house. Um, what brought me here in the first place is as I was doing online research, I, I, I saw some material about work being done around my house, possibly being related to like a new RSU zoning, which I'm, that's not why I'm here specifically here for my house. Um, I, um, so I live on a corner, um, of Granada and Ferdinand. And, uh, there was a large water main project, um, in that area. And a lot of it, um, I, I, I was told I was like a, is this showing? Does this, yeah. Right. I was told it was like a connection point or something like that. So, um, and if you could see the date, that's July, sorry. Okay. July 20, 25, like July 28, 25. And you could see, this is outside of my kitchen window. Um, you could see between my window frame and where the person is standing. He's on the street. So this is all occurring in my yard on my property. Um, it, we, there, you could see how far, how far the hole, how deep the hole is. And the guy standing there, um, there he's again, I feel like it, you know, a substantially deep hole that held water. Um, you can see this July 28th. They, I think that they maybe wrapped it up here, um, for a little bit and then started at different points or something. Um, these, my pictures, they go July through August through September. Uh, here's, here's a video and I won't show you the whole video. Um, at this point, my street was closed. Um, then in, there's more pictures in October where they were digging again outside of my window. Um, and since then I've had like noticeable issues in my house that I am concerned about. They started, um, digging again right behind my house and I was like, I was kind of shocked. Like how could this be happening again? Um, but, and I want to say when these workers were in my yard, I never gave them a hard time. I felt like, you know, everybody's got a job to do and I didn't, I was, I, I'm not one of those people, you know, but this work started again and I am in my neighborhood and I, I see this house and I look at it online and it says like needs a ton of work, 250,000, which a lot by itself in my neighborhood would be, you know, 400, 500 easy, I feel like. And the fact that this is. Okay. Your three minutes is up, but, um, can you do me a favor, Sam, Sam Thomas, my legislative aide, would you please meet, uh, Ms. Quinn and gather her information so that we can get back with her and connect her with the correct, uh, so if, if, if you want to wait outside, right outside these glass doors, my legislative aide should come up and for somebody to come up and gather your information and we can connect you with city staff to. Okay. Cause there are current, like health concerns that I have because I've noticed digging and I can feel impacts inside my house and I can hear them. We'll connect you with the right person, the people that you need to speak with. So, uh, Sam Thomas, you can meet her outside these glass doors. He should meet you out here. Okay. Very good. Okay. Fran Tate, bring it home. Good morning, Chad Clinton and council members. I am Fran Tate. I'm the founder and president, current president of the Jackson Heights Neighborhood Association and community safety watch group. I serve as a community advisory committee member of the East Tampa CRA elected chair the first two years and I'm appointed to the public news abatement board. I want to continue to advocate, fight for our East Tampa stormwater relief project. The one located Broadway and 56th street, the one that was canceled and the funds reallocated to South Howard Avenue. I'm going to come up here every time I get the chance to, to advocate and fight for their party to be continued. If you say, well, yes, it's going to be continued. We didn't win. We didn't get a town hall meeting to talk about, oh, guess what? They're getting ready to cancel our project. We didn't get a chance to come down here and pack the room like every other organization does with our t-shirts on to say, save East Tampa flood water storm relief project. We didn't get that chance. I'm going to continue to fight because there's dengue fever out there. Mosquitoes transmitting it. There's still flooding. Water collects in that area. It's not safe for us. I'm a fighter and I'm an advocator. I come with new and fresh ideas also, but my ideas expand. Now, I want to thank you for that room that you named after our beloved Councilman Frank Reddick. Councilman Frank Reddick should have had his name on the whole entire building had it been me. I would have fought for that. It would have said Williams slash Frank Reddick building part. He put a swimming pool there. He served as a president of that association. Then he was elected as a city council member. He fought. He was instrumental in getting Jackson Heights on the map. We had to fight to become our own community neighborhood association. And it was him. It was him. It was him that told others who were pigeonholing us. Let them go. They know what they want to do to serve their community. Let them go. Because we was on the umbrella. And it wasn't fair and it wasn't right. I want to talk about East Tampa. We're underserved. Sulphur Springs. We're underserved. We need a fighter sitting up there. A fighter for both areas. Because we don't get what we deserve at any time. In my opinion. We, trophies, trinkets, they're all well and fine. But what about the real fight? What about the community fight? What about our store? What about our fresh food market? What about our potholes? What about our bus shelters? We need a real fighter. Thank you. Have a blessed day. Okay. Now we have one online speaker. Michael Randolph. Bring it home. Good morning, Michael. Good morning. My name is Michael Randolph. And I want to speak briefly about how Florida Amendment 3 will impact West Tampa. And how our community is preparing to respond. Low income residents of the group most negatively affected. Analysts from Florida Today and Florida Policy Institute show that Amendment 3 should cause downwards towards renters, transit-dependent residents, and people living paycheck to paycheck. Public safety will be directly affected. West Tampa already have the highest-than-average calls for fraud rescue, EMS, and police calls. With less funding, response time slow, free units may be available, and community policing constraints. Community service could also be impacted. Families rely on recreational centers, youth sports, after-school programs, and summer camps. People's recreational cards, paid enrollment, and facilities rentals could increase. Seniors may see a reduced in hours or lower program for community centers. Our CEA improvements, including sidewalks, lighting, and housing rehabilitation, and small businesses, could also be offended. Most West Tampa residents are rentals. And Amendment 3 provides no tax release for rentals. And at this time, and at the same time, rent and city service fees rise, creating a double burden for families already struggling for rent. In sum, this amendment could lead to higher eviction, increased youth crime, isolation of seniors, and increase of death because a low response. Please vote. Next week, I will return with the solution for simply how the West Tampa Technology and Wealth Building Curations Center can reduce the economic impact by creating income streams, new career pathways, and real wealth building opportunities. Thank you. Michael, what a perfect way to bring it home and close out public comment. Thank you very much. Enjoy the rest of your day. Can I get a motion to receive and file 60 and 61? I'm sorry. Can I get a motion to remove the resolutions of 60 and 61? I have a motion from Councilwoman Hurtek, a second from Councilwoman Young. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Thank you. I'm going to change the agenda a little bit because Melissa's in the audience. We're going to hear item number 64 now, please. Thank you so much. Didn't expect that. Absolutely. Melissa Zornita, Executive Director of the- Well, you can sit around and wait until after lunch if you like. Well, no. I'm not turning down this favor. Thank you. And I appreciate the opportunity to be here today to tell you a little bit about how we have been exploring the idea of a stadium district plan, put that in quotes. Myself and Mr. Wong from the Transportation Planning Organization have been exploring the idea of what that might look like. We had the opportunity last week to be invited to a meeting of some of the neighborhoods directly around where the new Rays Stadium would be and then listen to some of their concerns around events, around transportation, stormwater, other pieces of infrastructure, growth in their area and along some of their corridors and how that redevelopment might fit in better with their community. And so some of those concerns that we heard were short-term kind of operational things that might feed well into other existing, like the capital improvements plan or other things that like a community benefits agreement. But many of them lend themselves towards looking at a planning effort for that area. And so some of the next steps that we're looking at are hearing from some of the partners in this effort. So DOT, the city of course, the county, HART to understand what are in their plans. What do they have programmed? What might be in their longer range plans to see where there are gaps, where some of these things align, and how we can leverage all of that into a planning effort that addresses what the community's interested in. So we think with that information, we would be in a good position if council so desires to bring forward a scope of services of what that plan might look like. And so that's sort of where we're headed. Wanted to give you an update on that, make sure that was consistent with the direction you all would like, and welcome any feedback on that. Additionally, Jamie Jones from the neighborhood associations is here as well. Hi, Jamie. Good morning, council. And thank you. Start with your name. Yeah. Start with your name, please. Okay. Jamie Jones with the West Tampa Heights Neighborhood Association. All I did was put together a quick list of things that we've talked about so far. And again, this is really the West Tampa Heights Neighborhood Association and then a collection of four other neighborhoods that pretty much directly are abutted to the Hillsborough Community College Campus and the Buccaneers Stadium. We're the ones that are most directly affected by special events and stadium activities, especially with the Rays being approved for their new stadium and their mixed-use development, which we don't, you know, no one knows what that will really look like. But we are really attempting to be proactive rather than reactive and to solve existing issues issues that we all see every single day and feel. You know, this is really evolving. We don't know exactly what's going to happen yet. We have, of course, we don't have any resources for this. This is just neighbors coming together and saying, what does our neighborhood really need right now and what do we want to look like in 20 years? So, again, I'm definitely here for any questions, but we're trying to figure out how, what we can ask for from you. We don't even know yet exactly what that looks like. I'm going to start with Councilman Miranda, the hair technique, Carlson. Carlson was first. Yeah. Councilman Carlson, go ahead. Yeah. Thank you. I just wanted to fill in. So this was something that we talked about during the Rays case because several of the neighborhoods were concerned about direct impacts, but then the neighborhoods also said, well, we haven't had any kind of planning in a long time. And so whether the Rays thing goes through or not, we would like to have some kind of planning. Um, um, the, um, during that, during those discussions, um, council member Cohen, Harry Cohen was sitting in some of the meetings with me and, um, and he is pushing hard to get the county to support the, uh, TPO and the planning commission and to try to allocate some funding for this. And so, um, although each of those organizations will charge something, it could be that if Harry's successful or his colleagues are successful, that the county will pick up a big chunk of it. Um, you know, they were, they were the lead. The county was the lead on the, on the Rays discussion. But as I mentioned, this goes beyond that. Um, one of the things that was discussed in this meeting. This was a meeting that Jamie put together of neighborhoods that are directly adjacent. Can I, can I pause just for a second? I'm sorry. I want to make sure that Alan hears this, but, um, uh, Jamie was the one who volunteered to put the, the, to organize. It's a lot of work just to organize neighborhoods to get them together. And in the discussion, he invited me, invited Melissa, Johnny Wong, and also Harry Cohen. And we were there just to listen to what the discussion was. But one of the questions we asked is who else should be at the table? And I saw Sandy Sanchez sent emails about that. I don't think anybody disagrees that there could be more people at the table, West Tampa and even broader. The, the, the initial question though, that Jamie was asking was how does it directly affect us and what money or planning tools might there be to be able to, if, to affect the direct impacts. And so if there's limited funding and limited tools, especially within a certain amount of time, the neighborhoods that are directly impacted, want to make sure there are, there are solutions that directly affect them. Um, they, it might, I won't speak for you guys, but it, I think the consensus was they would welcome the other neighborhoods from West Tampa. There also was an interesting discussion about what, what is West Tampa? Uh, I think some folks from drew park think that drew park is not in West Tampa. And so I don't, I don't know. Ironically, you know, we step on, we step into each other's turf. Sometimes Charlie literally lives in Jamie's neighborhood. And so, and so I'm, uh, I can't talk to him about the conversations and the details, but I try to give him a heads up that I'm around his neighborhood. I also go to some of the restaurants around there a lot. Um, but anyway, the, the idea right now is just at, at the very beginning, if you all have ideas that you want to give, uh, any of them, you can, uh, there probably will be another meeting just to, just to listen. And then the first question is what, what problems do they anticipate and what tools might there be? And then what money might there be? Once that is determined, then there will be a, from the TPO or MPO or the county, there will be a public process where the public will be invited. There will be public meetings. There will be online surveys. There will be a town hall meetings, all kinds of stuff. These initial meetings are just to ask the question who should be involved. How should it be organized? What are the problems we're trying to face? Okay. Thank you. So a few things I'm thinking about, I'm glad you're thinking about this now. This is really important. Um, my, my first thing that I'm concerned about is definitely getting the conversation because we've been lobbied heavily to take, and we probably will end up taking the arm, some of the Armenia corridor out of the TRC. And that's what the neighborhoods are asking for. So you, I mean, but that's counterintuitive to what you all are trying to accomplish. So while we may take it out short term over long term, that might be something that you all as neighborhoods have to come together for. So, which brings me to my second point, which is we have some neighborhoods that have gone through this. Seminole Heights has a new over, has an overlay. It's older, but absolutely. Um, if you don't know people in the Seminole Heights area, um, this is where you use than to connect you to, to go through that process. I believe it was done in about 2007, 2008. So unfortunately it was finished right before the economic downturn. So it's taken a really long time to really get it going again, but that would be a good group for you to talk to about what happened. Also East Tampa and Tampa Heights have brand new overlays. So again, I would talk to Tampa height or, um, fan about getting you connected with those folks. Um, and thirdly, uh, when it comes to how the neighborhoods connect, um, the Heights has a, their own umbrella group for all the Heights neighborhoods to be a part of. So maybe talk to, uh, one of the Heights and while you're talking to people from Seminole Heights, just be like, you know, how that, how's that going? It stopped for a little while because of COVID, but I believe the conversation now is to bring it back. So how do they do that? What does it look like? Like I know, um, when I was on the, the later leadership board, we had, we had like a Facebook group, like a private Facebook group. So we could chat, but we actually got together every quarter. I mean, so there were things to definitely bring together, but that way, you know, each other, you can message each other really quickly. Um, you know, with whatever the newer tool of the day is. Um, although y'all may be back to Facebook cause everybody tends to use it, but, um, but all of that's really important as you come together, because what you're trying to do is strengthen your community and then build upon it with this. Um, I have no problem, uh, allocating money toward this project. I think this is so important that regardless of what happens with the stadium, um, you really do, it's, it's your turn. It's your time. Um, and eventually it would be nice to have more parts of the city do that. But just because of where we are, I really, I'm, I'm supportive of this, but those are my first initial thoughts. And next time you have a planning meeting like this, please feel free to invite all of us. Um, we may not be able to speak at it, which is fine, but, um, you know, wanting to be there to listen, I think is really important. It's something that I'm interested in hearing too. Like what are the concerns that we're getting from the community? And, um, and thank you, Mr. Neda for helping with this process. Councilman Miranda. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, Mr. Jones, your, your area and your homeowners association, what's the area, the boundaries? Can you give them to us? For West Tampa Heights, it is MLK on the north, which was formerly Buffalo Avenue. Found that out looking at the plat the other day. Uh, and then Armenia, Tampa Bay Boulevard and Hines right up against. Well, that's rather small, compacted. Am I correct? Compared to. Very much. In fact, just this Sunday, I was heading south. Yes. To go have dinner with my daughter's house, one of them. And I left about 15 minutes before the game left. Already when I turn in Armenia, heading south, I didn't realize what I was doing. I'll be honest with you. I got on the inside lane and that inside lane was backed up for blocks until I noticed that there was no one in the outside lane. So I went on the outside lane and I coaxed it all the way down Armenia, all the way into Cleveland, back there so I could go see my daughter's house. But I finally realized why. That inside lane was blocked because they were getting cars into the interstate heading south. Yep. That's it. All of them. Right. People that go to the visit, and they should, are an enormous traffic pattern for every block that you have in your homeowner's association. Yes. Because I live in your homeowner's association. And I can tell you that there's something has to be done because if you don't leave then, you're going to be an hour and a half inside your house where you cannot have, and I'll tell you what another thing. If you take a traffic count of accidents on McDill Avenue, south of Tampa Bay Boulevard to Columbus Drive, you're going to be surprised how many accidents they are leaving the stadium. Yes. And I'm going to get those figures from the police department now that I mentioned it. So these things are in your district, in your homeowner's association. Is there any way where you can expand your homeowner's association if you're looking at it? We have asked. Well, first, let me address. We are a neighborhood association. We're not an HOA. We don't charge a fee. Anybody who's interested, please let me know. Make an HOA just around his lot and charge him fees. You're fine. I can live outside. Completely free and neighborhood driven. But anyway, yes, so two things there. When it comes to the boundaries of where we are studying, the first thing that I have proposed, and this is really me as an urban planner, I proposed doing a traffic study that really would model the roadway network and figure out where traffic is heading, especially on special event days, right? There are different things there. You'd have to model different scenarios. One of the biggest things is that TSA and the police department or whoever is in control of that, they turn Tampa Bay Boulevard into a one-way. One-way. They don't let people go north at all. Everyone has to go south no matter what. That puts everyone through our neighborhoods. There are a few things that are really operational that, yes, we really need to look at, and it should expand as much as it has to for us to capture the big picture here. I mean, you already have a situation that's unacceptable because you can't leave. Yes. And now you're going to be exacerbated by 81 more days of something maybe not as large, but there. Right. So if there's an event there and there's an event at the stadium for a concert, you're going to have to stay in your house. So we live about two and a half miles from the airport. The other day I flew in to the airport, got in at 11 PM. My wife and son are already in bed. I'm trying to take an Uber. Because of Bruno Mars, $74 to get home. Two and a half miles, right? If that is 81, if that's 200 days of the year, you know, that is something that we need to avoid here. We're trying to figure things out, find resources to make sure that. Sounds like we need mass transit. Yeah, transit, what we want. I think we'd ask for a traffic study of the area that we're talking about. So we can get the numbers. We don't, we were just talking now without, but on those games, they, you have to have a traffic study when there, there's an event at any one of those areas, because what you're going to get is an unbelievable number that you can't, you can't move. No one can move. And I understand what they're talking about. South Tampa live aware. And I guarantee you it's three times as bad. Councilman. Maniscalco. Thank you very much. So I live right there just outside of the boundaries, you know, cause some of the residents where I live take part in your association. So I'm right there at what you said was Buffalo and Havana. That's cool. Cause it hasn't been like that since I was a kid, but you know, I'm, you know, born and raised here. I lived behind Charlie Miranda for two years when I was a kid. I don't, I don't have memories that far, but on event days, you mentioned, I was going to bring up Tampa Bay turns into a one way. It's very difficult. The timing, the sequence of the traffic lights just to go north on Havana for me to get home to cross MLK. Sometimes it doesn't change. Sometimes it takes forever. If you have emergency vehicles, that's a problem. Um, I remember reading maybe 50 years ago, they did widening to Del Mabry. They added a, a, a right turn lane, um, maybe 20, 20, 30 years ago, you know, things have been improved upon, but that is a residential neighborhood like Tampa Bay Boulevard. I think at the TPL level, they're looking at probably funding for widening that. Just to, just to Del Mabry. Yeah. That's it. That's on the other side going to do part. Air cargo was redone about 20 years ago. Now they're talking about redoing it again, I believe. So it's a, it's on the west side of Del Mabry improvements will be made. But what about, uh, West Tampa? Another thing, cause you have it listed here, sidewalks. We have people asking forever because we have the open ditches that do serve their purpose when it rains. But what about closing those ditches or adding sidewalks? That makes sense. Council member Miranda's brought up when there's new development, they make you put a sidewalk and there's a sidewalk to nowhere. But so many people that park in residential lots, you know, people make money, whatever, and they have to walk to these places. There's inadequate sidewalks. I mean, you have to take MLK because of the sidewalks or Columbus drive, but in between very, very few parts of Tampa Bay. And then throughout the residential streets, again, it's very narrow. Traffic study is the biggest thing. My concern is not just for the residents, but for emergency vehicles sidewalks, because a lot of people walk looking at closing some of those ditches and building the sidewalks and putting a modern, a more modernized drainage system. I mean, and you know, then there's other things that we can talk about, but let me know how we can help. I mean, I'm literally around the corner from you down the street and, you know, we'll take it from there, see how we can improve this area because it's going to be tremendously effective. So my suggestion would be during new business, Councilman Carlson, you're the one that brought this forward. Unless somebody else wants to pick it up. I would suggest that we entertain a motion for a resolution of council to create a, and use with the neighborhood association, the planning commission, all interested parties to create a committee to, you know, a city committee to facilitate. This would be my suggestion during new business. If somebody wants to take that on. Can, um, instead, cause this is grassroots, they're, they're running it right now. But I, but, but I mean, that, that gives the, that gives the, the nice thing about, I mean, the pitch for that would be, if somebody wants to make that proposal is once you institutionalize that as a city, you know, you, you have city resources, you have city staff, you have, you know, you can coordinate with planning commission, the TPO that you mentioned, the TSA, you, you have that, that, that ability, cause as a, as a community organization, you really can't compel or ask those folks to come and, you know, do these things. So if you, if we institutionalize this and created something formal, I think that would maybe help facilitate this and potentially create a funding mechanism for it. So, I mean, just, and that's a suggestion for new business. I would suggest we take that up for new business. Okay. Yeah. May I say one other thing? Yeah, go ahead. I'm going to wrap it up and go to lunch. Another thing that we can do at the same time, or maybe why Melissa is still here, but I think, I think Johnny and Melissa would, Johnny and Melissa would like, um, a motion to, um, to just as it's, give them consent, especially since three of you are on the TPO board just to get them right. Can you tell me what the words are? Uh, yeah, I think we, we'd love some sort of, um, motion or direction for us to continue working on this so that we know it's a, a, a request of all of council as well as the new credit. Do you want me to say that to any business? I, I, I would, I would just say, is there anybody here that disagrees that we have UNM's consent that can have them continue what they're doing right now and then we can formalize it with some other process. Is that all? Yes. That's great. Okay. I just believe the first thing you've got to do is traffic study. The planning commission doesn't do traffic studies that I know of. Yeah, they do. They do? Absolutely. Can I add one? I thought the city did the traffic studies. If I can. The other, hold on, let me, let's, let's, let's take control. Councilman Carlson, then I'll address Mr. Shelby. The other thing about traffic is listening to the stories again, just now and the other day about what happens is the same exact thing that happens in downtown and South Tampa. And we've had TPD and others come before us several times and mobility come before us several times about downtown. And there are some obvious things that I think we still need to change in downtown because it's causing backups in South Tampa. But there's the same thing happening here. When you suddenly it's, there's a traffic study, but then there's also, I forgot the name of it, but the, the traffic flow that gets put in by mobility and TPD. And when you suddenly change roads that people expect to be two way, to be one way, it confuses everyone. It sends people the wrong direction and downtown, instead of sending people away from the arena, they send people back toward the arena, which I think is crazy. I hear you. And I agree. Mr. Shelby. What Ms. Zornita was requesting was an action of council. What council just did was not an action of council. No. I think she just wants. What did you, for your minutes, there's not going to be much of anything. We do not have a resolution in front of us for clear direction. I think she was, my understanding is they're just asking to continue what they're doing right now. Basically they just self-disclosed that they're working behind the scenes to kind of like work through this process. They want to make sure they're not working behind our back. And so this was full transparency and disclosure. And we just want to say, yeah, we like what you're doing. That works. That works. But that is not an official action of city council. Right. I understand. I think councilman Clendenin characterized it correctly. We want to make sure that council is in agreement with the direction that we've been going and are continuing to pursue that. And then we'll look at some of the mechanism of creating something more formalized to be able to have some, you know, resources and ability to compel. Hold on. I've got council memorandum first. And then, and then if we could just, if we could wrap this up. I agree with all that being said, but you still need a base for a traffic study. They do the traffic study. Ask them for one now. They're right here. She's coordinating with them. Are you going to do a traffic study? No, she's coordinating with the transportation planning organization. That's fine. It can do that. And we're working closely and you've got the boundaries and everything else. Well, that's all part of what they're having to work on. Yeah. So we don't know what's happening, but it's happening. Well, that's a wonderful thing. We can tell the public. We'll, we'll find out working on it. Yes. What a work in progress. Yeah. What, what happened is they, as, as chair just said, they wanted to disclose very early in the process. So there's nothing that's done. There's nothing that's planned. They're just having organizational meetings and they want to disclose even at this stage, which I think is good for transparency. The last thing I'll say is I can make that motion later about the city, but keep in mind that the county apparently wants to play a big role, especially since they were lead on a stadium. And so, um, uh, you all know county commissioners and you, all of, you know, Harry Cohen, he's trying to take point on this and he's pushing really hard. It's possible that the county will fund all of it. So let's talk to them first. Okay. Well, again, yeah. So if you want, if you want to take that IOU to come back at some future time to, with something that'd be great because I mean, I could, I could conceive, you know, perceive this to be, you know, coming into like a Seminole Heights kind of thing, you know, a meld of overlay versus, you know, other forms of government structure. We, we are still trying to figure out if we do want our own zoning districts like Seminole Heights has, or if this should be an overlay or just a master plan, but master plans get put on shelves, all the things, right? Um, there's a lot of, there are a lot of parts to this that we have, we have not figured out. And yeah, we, we do not have, um, we don't have a, like a scope, an RFP that can go out for a traffic study yet, anything like that. Um, and until you have that scope, you don't know how much it's going to cost. I wouldn't even know how much to ask you guys for yet. Uh, but if you guys want to give us 3 million, that'd be cool. We'd figure it out. Go to Johnny Wong and ask him for 3 million for it. Councilwoman Young has a question. I was just going to ask if you could, if I could have a copy of this, but you have one. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. Could you send it to the audience? Sure. No problem. Okay. So, um, we, we still have a couple of items left to do after lunch. One of them is going to be a time certain one thirties that is required us to come back for lunch. It is 12.07. Let's be back in council chambers at one 25 and we'll hear the last two remaining items of business. We are at lunch.