Good evening and welcome to City Council Workshop for October 7th, 2026 on the Plantation Preserve Golf Course Improvements. Ms. Beggaroe, please call the roll. Councilmember Anderson? Here. Councilmember Andreu? Here. Councilmember Fadgen? Here. Councilmember Horland? Here. Councilmember Reinstein? Here. Mayor Sortel? Here. Assistant City Attorney Morgan? Here. Thank you. Great. Thank you very much, Ms. Beggaroe. Good evening, sir. Good evening. Good evening, Mayor, Councilmembers. Tonight we have with us two of our consultants, Frank Custodial Architects and Mayor Legg. They're going to provide us with a presentation and update on the golf course improvements as well as the clubhouse renovation projects. The first presenter will be Frank Custodial Architect and their team. They will provide an overview of the clubhouse facility assessment, which includes the existing conditions, proposed improvement options, and the associated cost estimates with each, along with the city's preferred scope of improvements based on the identified priorities, as well as the approach for the next phase for architectural design services. Now, following the clubhouse presentation, we're going to have Miller Legg and their team provide an update on the golf course improvements, which includes additional condition and assessment findings of the existing recharge well, course pump, brief status of the turf procurement, updated concept concept plan, integration of the clubhouse and starter shack improvements, as well as project schedules, recommended approach for advancing into the next phase, which will include Miller Legg's proposed scope for professional landscape architectural design services. Now, the workshop is intended to provide city council with an understanding of the current status, where we're at with the projects and the direction we want to proceed, as well as obtain some council feedback based on the proposed improvements and the next phases for professional services. Now, with that said, I'd like to bring up Frank Custodial, so he'll start us off with their presentation. Thank you, Gibson. Thank you, Gibson. Good afternoon, Mayor. Members of the council. Franco Sawyer, Franco Sawyer, PA. We're going to try to go through this as briefly as possible with me. Today is Rene Gibbs, project architect for the project. Rene's been with the firm about 19 years, and Ginny's center on project manager. We engaged earlier in the year in what's called phase one of the project, which had basically four major tasks, activity to perform, and we have completed those, and thank you for giving us the opportunity to present today. Next slide. That's a picture of the immediate clubhouse area coming off of our boulevard. Go ahead. We had our firm and six other consultants, engineers, structural engineers, design consultants, MEPs, interior fire sprinklers, structural roofing to do the as-built documentation and also the existing building condition assessment. Go ahead. As I said, phase one, I had four principal tasks. As-built documentation, which is basically going out there multiple times with the whole team, physically measuring the building, digitally, with lasers, et cetera, to have a canvas, if you will, moving forward of the existing conditions of how the building sits today after 20-plus years. And that's what we did on that task. The second task was the existing building condition assessments. We had all the disciplines go out there to check the building as to its envelope, its structure, ADA, what are the deficits, what things need improvement, et cetera. And that's a lengthy report which we have, which was about 192 pages with our findings. Third task was after that that we had the existing building ground up doing building quantity takeoffs for the purpose of providing as accurate as possible budget estimates. And we'll show you what we did there. And task number four was creating what we call concept diagrams. We were supposed to do two, but we did three because it merited. And along with each concept, there was a related budget estimate attached to it. So it's like from the plan A, plan B, plan C, assuming that then we ended up with plan D after we met with administration, parks and recreation, management team, et cetera. So we'll move on to existing task one as well documentation. I'll brief through this very quickly because these are the drawings that we created. There again, the cover sheet, data from the existing zoning code, site plan with Broward Boulevard to the north and the main entry, the rotunda, pictures of the existing conditions in general. We created the floor plan and briefly to bring it to the floor plan, that's at the top is the covered portico share. And then as you enter, there is the open courtyard with the, to the left, the administration flanked. Then you come down to what I call the main spine going east west with a pro shop, the lobby, the 19th hole and the dining room. And then the back auxiliary uses, the restrooms, kitchen and the service areas. Go ahead. We documented existing ceiling plans, lighting plans, air conditioning, fire sprinkler, everything on the building. Go ahead. We did the roof plan, which is an interesting roof plan. The elevations, exterior elevations as they sit today. Go ahead. We did interior elevations in the main dining room, 19th hole, bar area. We blew up the kitchen with lighting plan, elevations of the kitchen, list of all equipment. The pro shop also, the administration ceiling, etc. The restrooms and all the elevations pertinent to that. So that is our canvas. From there we went through the existing building conditions. We visited the site with the, all the engineering consultants on multiple occasions and everybody took care of their discipline. We looked at the structural envelope, being, you know, the skin of the building, the exterior facade, ADA compliance issues, life safety issues, structural roofing, MEP, gas, fire strike, fire alarm. Like I said, the report is 192 pages. The building is over 20 years old. And we tried to identify items that are life cycle, have reached their life cycle, items that can be repaired, items that need renovation, items that need compliance to code presently. And we went through that on every discipline. And that's with the 192 pages. Go to a couple of pictures. As an example, on the exterior facade you can see the deterioration of the stucco and the cornish banding and the waterproofing issues, the canvas canopies. Go ahead. There's cracking in the slab of the building. Half of it sits on grade, half of it sits on columns because the golf cart wells below. So there's been differential settlements and we're experiencing some cracks in the slabs and in the wells and in the courtyard. Also, the trusses, we went into the attic and we realized that there's strapping needed, bolts missing, some decay in the trusses. The gable ends need to be reinforced to meet code as today for wind pressures. These are different views that this goes down to ADA handrails and some things that, you know, just need to be brought up to code. In particular, ADA, the bar, the bathrooms. There's stone cracking doors that need to be reworked. So trying to get a good grip on hardening the project and bringing the infrastructure items to present. Okay. Go ahead, Renee. Go ahead. You know, bathrooms, ADA, things that need clearances, things that need to be redone. Heights, clearances. Go ahead. So once we completed that, with the drawings that we had, we did the building quantity takeoffs. Like I said, basically square footages, square yards, linear feet of stucco, of painting, of roofing, of all different types of materials in the project to be able to use for a relatively accurate, at this point in time, budget estimate of construction on the different concept diagrams. Okay. Next. So here's where we get into the three concept diagrams and the related budget estimates. This is concept number one, where basically it takes care of all the items that need to be corrected under the conditions assessments. And then we go a little bit further and we improve the building by renovating what I call the main spine, the east to west, which is that heavy red line going around, going from the pro shop to the lobby and to the 19th hole and to the dining and to the bar. And basically not doing much, but just refinishing, painting, new flooring, baseboards, lighting, et cetera. So everything that we're doing in that phase is listed on the right-hand side. Go to the next, Renee. Each one you'll see had a pretty thorough budget estimate. This is concept number one. And as you go through the pages, we address, according to CSI construction certifications, the different elements in that building. So concept number one had a 2.182 price tag on it. As we go to concept number two, we start doing, after talking to management and what have you, things that they needed that would work better, would flow better as a club. Beginning of the pro shop, we added a new office and a storage and kind of opened up the sales room and change the point of sale, the cash wrap, relocating that there. We would renovate the lobby and give it another look. We centralized the entry to the main dining room, where it used to be over in the top, which had a bad entry because the main entry to the restaurant, if you will, was right next to the restrooms and you'd see the back of the patrons sitting at the bar. So we would renovate the bathrooms, add lockers at the men's. We added storage for the kitchen, which was needed because right now they're keeping, for example, liquor and the pro shop shouldn't be there. And we redid the serving area. The biggest move there was that we took the bar outboard. So now when you're sitting, the terrace already has structure, it has slab, it has roof, it has columns. So it would be a pretty simple thing to build it out. And now when patrons are sitting at the bar, they're looking out at the golf course, the greenery and the lake. And we gained a lot more seating and we also gained seating outside. And then towards the left of that, we're creating what they call a mantle wall. So if there's an event, you can open it all up and integrate it. Happy hour, cocktails or derbs, that type of thing. And this includes everything that one had. So the budget estimate to this, as we went through that, ended up at 2.894 million. Then moving up to concept three, which really does a whole bunch, is one of the things that we felt was that the courtyard was totally underutilized. So on the bigger courtyard area, where there's presumably a fountain, we introduced what we call the al fresco. It's going to be a covered area with television sets and buffet service for happy hour. You can hang out after playing around. You can watch golf games. You can watch college games. Another place to enjoy and generate revenues. The pro shop, we decided to bring the office out and the cash wrap out under the canopy, same as we did the bar, which would open up larger floors for sales. We still renovate the bathrooms. We redo the foyer again. The bar down the bottom remains the same, but we also brought it back down and we did a large outdoor terrace, which is a true terrace, whether you have umbrellas and tables. We furthermore went and went under the terrace at the end of the round wheel, and we were going to add there to gain at least 40, 50 more seating for capacity because they turned down a lot of events if they're more than 200. And then we added storage because they desperately need storage. So we added storage number one up above, which is right now in the service delivery court area, and we added storage number two, which connected directly to the kitchen. We seized the opportunity to add a unisex bathroom at that point and also a secondary serving area. So if there's an event in the dining and there's another event under the 19th hole, each section can have a serving area. This one also went with the starter booth, if you can go to that one. To the right, you see the alfresco, and that's the idea to have it open with a roof flying over. It'll still get natural day lighting and breezes, but it'll have fans and lighting and furnishing, patio furnishing, so you can enjoy the space and resurfacing and lighting in that area. Then at this point in time, we introduced three starter booths, a smaller one, a second, and a third. Basically having the same components, a starter booth office, restrooms, which are desperately needed. Right now the golfer needs to go, and I forget what the two holes are. They've got to run all the way into the clubhouse and run back out. So we gave them bathrooms out there, and an outdoor terrace, which would have finger foods and beverages before or after the game to enjoy that space out there. That terrace would be facing the lake and facing the clubhouse building. This budget came in at $5 million. So after meeting our administration and parks and recs and the management team, we kind of picked the best out of what we thought we needed the most and tried to be fiducially responsible. And go ahead to the next one. We came up with concept D, or floor if you will. So we will be doing the starter booth. We will be doing the alfresco, the pro shop improvements, the bathrooms, the locker rooms, and the bar sticking out of the mana wall in one of the storage areas with a bathroom and not leaving out the other one. That round of events, go ahead, Rene, is projected to be between $3.4 million and $3.6 million. As you can see, concept one was $2 million plus, then almost $3 million, then $5 million, then we're in the middle of the range right now. So based on the decision of the council and the mayor, at phase two, we would go ahead and phase two would involve five tasks in specific, which would be taking this selected design of approved and moving it to the schematic design phase, the design development phase, the technical construction document phase and specifications, putting it out to bid, running throughout the permitting process, and then contract administration. We assumed the construction of the clubhouse itself to run about 14 months. Timeline would be that we would want to fall kind of in line with the golf course work, and Dylan will talk more about that, but we would want to be in for permitting at the end of the second quarter of next year with a commencement date of November sometime this year because we need about a good eight months to put this work together. And then after that timeframe would be the bidding, the permitting, and then the construction phase. So with that being said, at that second phase, this would be our team. Middle Leg would be joining us, and they would be providing for us surveying work for the main clubhouse that we need one, engineering for the starter booth, some landscapes for beautification in the front of the clubhouse and in the rear, and some around the starter booth also. And that would be the team moving forward if we proceed forward. So with that being said, I'm going to – that wasn't bad, 17 minutes. That wasn't bad. Wow. So I'm going to hand it over to Dylan. Well, I don't know if you want to end the presentation, then you'll have a final. I think we'll go ahead and jump into questions if you don't mind, Ms. Castoya. Thank you so much. Perfect. I'm going to jump in first, and then I don't see my colleagues clicking in. First of all, thank you to your team for all of this work. We're really excited. This is a gem in our city. It is. And I personally am excited to see the refurbishment of the golf course and the clubhouse. I'm not one for throwing good money after bad. So I think taking care of, you know, obviously the structural issues, but really trying to get our return on investment on that. Right. I just want to make a couple of comments. I don't think – and I appreciate all of the different options you gave us. I don't think we need to try to be the old signature grand or even compete with Jacaranda Country Club. I've hosted events there, and I eat lunch there. I don't golf. My colleague does. But we're, you know, first and foremost, a golf club, a golf course. But I think there are certain things. I can tell you I'm terribly excited about the nanowalls because I think that is just for the events that are hosted there. It's just going to add a whole new dimension. Right. So I just have a couple of questions for you, and then I just want to tell you where I'm at with the plans. So I don't know if I saw in there, what's the percentage of contingency built into this when you start going in there and taking down walls and things? What's your contingency? We have about 15 percent in all the budget. About 15 percent? Okay. I didn't see that. Thank you. At this point in time, which is true because, you know, renovations are tough once we start opening up walls. You don't know what you're going to find. In particular, the structural envelope. Sure. Right. It's really hard to nail it down now without going beyond visual observations. Right. Especially with some of the waterproofing issues. Yeah. We had 10 percent across the board. Okay. All right. So 10 to 15. In some line items, we were very conservative. Okay. Not only by 40 years of experience, but by blue book and AI and talking to actually contractors and subcontractors. And, you know, it wasn't just throwing numbers out there, but, you know, that's the beast of renovation work. Okay. I was concerned about the space constraints with the kitchen if we were looking at expanding food service too much. So I will just tell you that I'm at 2.5. So doing two and then adding some of the things in from there and whether that ends up being, you know, plan D. I think adding that extra storage for the kitchen will be imperative. I have always felt that the fountain was a wasted space. So I would like to see, and perhaps you can bring that back up. Would you put that in front of the port cashier? The fountain. If we take the fountain out of the courtyard. Yes. It would go in front of the port cashier. The idea is in the green lawn in front of the port cashier. Right. Okay. For some photo ops. Which I think is a much better spot for that. But I think that would be a great revenue generator. Right. Well. And, you know, and in terms of the storage for the kitchen, even though it's labeled storage, the idea was that it will be an extension of the kitchen. Not necessarily maybe cooking, but, you know, you could food prep for large events. And, you know, the breads and the salads and the desserts and, you know. Right. Because they're so constrained right now. Very, very. And storage is none. I want to make sure that we add the storage into it. Yes. As for the courtyard, personally, and I'll wait to hear what my colleagues, I don't know that we need the TVs and the buffet service out there. Okay. What I would like to see out there is moving that fountain, relocating the fountain. And I think in one of the drawings there, adding the chairs and some beautifully lush potted plants so that that can also be used as a space for cocktail hour if there are events out there. So I think that space can be much better utilized without jumping to the TVs and the buffet service. Right. And so I want to make sure that we're providing the service, but I do believe if we do too much, it's going to take us many more years to get that return on investment. Right. To just clarify, the buffet was basically going to be a countertop. Okay. Just a countertop. No water and nothing. So if they're bringing in finger foods from the kitchen, they could lay it out there and charge X amount of dollars for a happy hour or whatever the case be, or a small party and event. But no TVs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't see the need for that. I think we've got the TVs out by the bar, but those would be my preferences. Okay. So again, I am at like 2.5. I like to, in adding in some of the items that I said, the storage, I don't think that we need the extra cash wrap addition for the pro shop in 50.1. Can you just tell me a little bit more about the starter pavilion? Because that's a really big line item there. The starter pavilion would contain restrooms, unisex with showers, which are presently now in the main clubhouse and they really don't belong there. It would contain obviously janitorial support space. It would contain storage for towels. It would have the office where the club guys go up to it. It would have an IT closet for the golf tracking system that we're going to bring empty condos all the way from the clubhouse to that. And then the tracking system, Miller Lake's taking care of that. And then it has basically an open terrace where you can sit about 20, 25 people in tables and a portable barbecue if you want. A lot of clubs do if on a Saturday want to do hamburgers, hot dogs, or there again, they want to wheel in sandwiches or whatever the case is. There again, you can eat it out there and then leave, not having to necessarily go to the club. Okay. So it's an option. Thank you. My last question is, I think it was diagram A4, and that was when we were looking at C. My concern was there were palm trees that were, I'm assuming those were palm trees showing there? Yeah, that was just an architect drawing pretty palm trees. Okay, okay. I just want to make sure that we don't block that view, which I'm sure you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear you. All right. I'm going to, thank you for answering my questions. I'm going to get my colleagues in. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Andreu and then Councilmember Fadgen. Thank you, President Horland. Thank you for the presentation. Thank you. It was excellent. Thank you. Council President Horland asked a few of the questions that I also was concerned about, especially in terms of storage, because when I did walk the property with Ms. Marlow, that was one of her big sticking points. Yes. So between, I thought it was, I chuckled when she said 2.5 because I was between 2 and 4. So I guess, but I don't want 3. Yeah, we got the 3. But I don't want 3. Yeah. So we'll have to create a new 3. But how much more storage does 4 have than 2, if you can answer that? I know you might not be able to tell on the spot. Let me see. Let me see. No, no. I couldn't figure it out that quickly. Here, we had this one. Well, 2 has, 2 has, yeah, let's go to the big screen there. It's hard to read that. Is that, well, that's final when they go back. So that's 2. 2 has just a little storage area, about 80 square feet next to the entry there, or the restrooms next to the server. So that's not enough. And I think. Right. And that was basically trying to get the liquors out of the pro shop and for some more canned goods and kitchen accessories and stuff like that. But, you know, the chafing pans and all that stuff is where number 3 goes into 2 options of storage. The one out by the service court, which is the top one, Renee. You know, the top one over there. And then the one which is storage that's directly, you know, in line with the kitchen and would have the potential of having another server in the restroom there coming out to the dining area. In other words, the dividing of the 19th hole in the dining is that accordion partition that closes. Exactly. Right. So could we still incorporate that into 2? Sure. Yeah, the pieces are all in 2. Okay. So I think that was kind of. The interesting thing about this is that the alfresco and the bar and the storage are like separate little pieces. Okay. So you can, you know, you could even put them out to bid and get alternate bids. And if it doesn't make sense, then you keep it away. I like that ideal a lot. At least you get a price on it, you know. I like that ideal. And it might be something that, you know, two years on the road or three, you decide to do it. You don't have to do it immediately, right. Absolutely right. Because if you look at it, yeah, go to three, Renee. So all these areas that are yellow and that beige are like separate little projects, if you will. Okay. So we can, you know, kind of pick and choose. Okay. And then my last question. So I saw that you already have your team completely formed. Yes. Do you, can you add members to that team? Sure. Or it's done. No. No. I mean, the team that began working on the project and it would make sense to continue with them. We are adding Miller leg as civil. We had no civil at the beginning. Like I said, they'll be strictly handling the civil related to the placement of the starter booth, bringing the water and the sewer to it, lift station, the mitigation of landscaping and the new landscaping. Okay. But yes, we're open to any suggestions. Okay. Great. Because I have some. We know them and feel comfortable with them. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. You're welcome. Thank you, Councilmember Andrea. Councilmember Fajan. Thank you, Council President Horland. Thank you for your presentation and your work. You're welcome. I guess one of my questions is, for each of these options, including the best of, how much space does it add to the dining room? Because like when you have an event in there, it's, it's shoulder to shoulder. It's actually kind of uncomfortable. Well, we're adding the, the rear eight feet of covered terrace. So each one of those tables is a 10 seater. So you're at least adding 40, you could probably get 50. And if you know, the outside obviously without another, a whole bunch more. So my question regarding the adding capacity, what assessment was done of the parking lot? Because I was always told that the expansion of the core clubhouse, we might have a problem with, with the parking lot. I'll let Renee answer to that because she started studying parking. So based on today's current code. Implantation. Implantation. Implantation. I'm going to lay it on our feet. Well, there's code and there's reality. Yeah. Per code, as is, even adding all of this new square footage that you see here in concept number three, we still meet the required parking. Okay. Good. There was talk about the management company on bigger events, adding a valet service. Park it off site? No, or even on site. They stack them. They stack them and they bring it. Okay. Park it closer because they're not parking. Exactly. They let them build that into their event feet. Okay. Very good. Yes. I think the alfresca is a great idea. I think it will attract the golfers to stay around. Yes. You know, like you said, pay for a buffet or whatever. Have the TVs. You know, it'd be a nice, comfortable area, particularly during season when the cool air is blown through that little courtyard. So, I think I'm for that. I think that the starter hut, I think we should just do the basic stuff. Add the bathrooms, like you're suggesting, the storage, the IT closet, and then the office. That's a project we could add later, possibly for the expansion. I was curious, kind of like, if there's kind of like a terrace out there for people to sort of, you know, like you said, like have a portable barbecue. When they get done with their round, are they going to go all the way back up to the clubhouse and return their golf carts, or are they going to stop there? I was curious about that. In both ways, at the beginning and at the end? Yeah. The building actually is the smallest one. The budget you might be reading there is for the bigger one, which is the one that we budgeted. The building now is designed as 34 by 34, including the bathrooms, the office, everything. So, it's... Well, I think I'm suggesting for now, let's do something basic for the starter house. One, we want to see like, you know, if we add the alfresca and then the, you know, improve the dining room, does that increase our revenue? Does it create more of a... Maybe that's going to want to be utilized, and then we're going to need that for people on the golf course to actually be able to have an opportunity for, you know, beverages and food service there. But I don't think we need to go right off the bat. And then for the bar to be pushed out into the terrace, what is the backdrop of the back of the bar? Because one of the things, like when we do host events from, you know, inviting other cities to us, that view is pretty spectacular and they get pretty jealous of it fairly quickly. Yes. Looking out on the golf course. It would all be glass. Okay. The same glass lines that you have inside are getting transported outside, and the countertops would all be low, windowsill, and all the booths would be standing on shelves. There would be nothing blocking the view. Okay, so they'd be able to see everything. And for sun, since it does operate towards, I believe, the west, we would have cantilevered sun breeze shades to, you know, diffuse the sun for the length of it. The interesting thing about that bar that I didn't bring up, if you look at it, when the partitions are closed that you have two events going on, 19th hole and dining, now if I'm, and my family's had about five parties, their baby showers, bridal showers, so I know they're pretty good. And you listen to the, you know, women, their opinion, and then, but I go there, and I wanted to get a drink, so I had to go through one of the panels, open it, to then go to the bar to get a drink and go back. Right. So that partition would die in the middle of the bar, or two-thirds of it, so you could go get a bar while you're dining and still have the bar while you're at 19th, so it's doubled. Does it go through the bar, or does it stop at the bar? It'll stop at a column, it'll stop at a column like it does now. We are eliminating one column in between, then we will put some steel angles to reinforce the beam, so it'll open up the view to the dining room. What about noise, like not being able to seal off the two locations? Well, depending on if there's an occasion that I'm taking up the whole place, it's just part of the event. Right. But I'm saying if there's two events going on. There could be some sound movement, but it would have to come back in and around, so that's a consideration we would definitely take into place. I think my last question would be, and when you're talking about task one, you said about it was an interesting roof plan, so what did you mean by that? Well, it has slope roofs, one-sided shed roofs, flat roofs, very high volumes. You've got prefab trusses, you've got reinforced concrete slabs, you've got 2x10 and 2x12 wood joists, so there's a lot of flashing. We need to keep it simple. We need a new roof. Okay. Definitely. Well, thank you for your presentation. Thank you so much for your... Councilmember Fadgen, can I ask you a clarifying question? On the former courtyard, when we take the... So we'll call it the alfresco because there's two alfresco in there. I'm not opposed to the seating out there and having food out there. Do you want the TVs out there? Oh, yeah. You want the TVs? I'm a man. I want TVs. You've got four corners. We need four TVs. See, I want it quiet out there. Okay. The TVs are here cheap now, so don't shake your head. I'll acquiesce on the TVs. But I do think that's an underutilized space. I mean, I talked to friends of mine and said I'd go there on a Saturday and watch a college football game. Yeah. And you know I don't play golf. Okay. You know, so... The final thing that, Ms. Dextoya, that I did not say on 50.2, I do think if we're doing all of this, the foyer lobby modifications and design enhancements should be done as well. The floor ceilings, niches, and the lighting there. You know what, if we're doing that, it should just be part of it. The lobby to your main facility, yes. Right, right. So, any other questions, colleagues? No, we didn't give it as a fail. Councilmember Reinstein. You know, thank you very much for the presentation. Councilmember Fadgen raised a question regarding the sound, and it sounded like you weren't concerned about it, but if you have an event in the dining room going on, and it's a party, whatever the event is, how would that sound not be traveling next door into the dining room if there's an opening in the bar? Well, we could design it where we have another accordion dividing off. If you look at that bar, it's like three modules, right? The middle, and the left, and the right. We could have that if there's a specific event, we could close that section. You know what I'm talking about? Put the pointer, so... Right where 11 is? Like, just keep going? Right, right. We could continue another divider, and then close that, and that would soundproof that. We also do have to deal with other sound issues, and we're looking at materials and sound acoustical panels, because it's very high ceilings, which we almost wish we could bring them down, but it doesn't... Money doesn't afford it, but it's a lot of harder materials, so there is sound that we need to deal with. So it is a concern? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Because it seemed like it would be. Well, I mean, you know, it depends on how rowdy the guy is at that, and the girls get at the bar. Fair enough, but whatever, you know. But I don't think it would be a major disturbance. But we could introduce some kind of system that would just be a little pocket door that closes off that section. Then you would be totally closed. And going back, I think it was Councilman Andrea who was mentioning about Concept 2 plus something that has... Can you go back to Concept 2, please? Right, so if Concept 2, but had the additional storage that was the area where is storage number 2 now, but in one of the later slides where it was number 22, number 9, and 26... Go focus in on that area. Right. Right here. So if we did that area now on this concept, that red wall, we were removing a glass line because there's really nothing pleasing to look out there. As a matter of fact, there's a wood structure storage. Right. So this one, we were going to extend that because we see that as a presentation feature wall. Okay. Whether it be a Kiwanis, a Chamber of Commerce, whatever. But where that storage is, and that covered terrace, that's the area that we were going to be enclosing as a storage. Unisex bathroom, pretty much. And there was another, yeah. Right. And so that was in one of the later ones. Yes. So if we were looking to have the bar, add additional storage and some kind of compromise less than the final modified version, less than Concept 3, but to make sure that that storage component is included, that would be something I'd be more inclined towards. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Okay. Council Member Anderson, would you like to weigh in? I'm not the expert, but I don't want to go all the way, but I'm right around with what you guys are saying. Definitely need more storage. Yes, TVs. Yes, the al fresco. I mean, if you're doing it, you need to do it. I mean, otherwise, if you go halfway, people aren't going to use it. It's going to be a hot area to sit with no TV. So white people aren't going to go. So basically, the two point something up there. But definitely the storage, and I think you're already there. I think you might as well do that bathroom there to the small unisex bathroom. The city's preferred direction, so they have a better bathroom. I like the fountain moving out front as a feature just to capture some of our history. So on the preferred city parks, the Concept D that was born out of ABC, the al fresco's in there. We're renovating the bathrooms in all of them. We are improving the pro shop, and it's a minimal thing, moving a counter and office and some storage. They need storage for apparel. We're bumping out the bar. We're doing the nano wall. We are something that was very important. The main restrooms would have access from the interior and the exterior. So if I'm out at the al fresco or I'm out playing golf, I don't have to come into the lobby, into the main dining room. Events going on, go to the bathroom, come back out, you know. And we were able to do that because we eliminated the showers there at the end. We put them out at the starter booth. So that's something that everybody was very in favor of. And we do have the larger storage, and we still have that liquor storage, the one next to the server, that one. That's about 100 square feet. How large is that other storage, Rene? I can't really do that. I want to say it's about 800 square feet. Don't hold me to it, but it's a pretty almost 2 1⁄2 carton ranch. And does that include the modifications or enhancements to the foyer, this one? Yes. It does. Okay. Right. There was like a busy intersection of doors. We wanted to realign the entry so it was more of a grandiose entry. And we're bringing the entry to the gift shop, I forgot to mention, from the outside now. I mean, not the gift shop, the pro shop. Pro shop. So if you're out there, I want to get some balls or whatever, quickly, just go in, get out, and boom. There again, I don't have to come into the main lobby of, you know, the facility and what have you. Which actually, right now, some of these things look simple, but they're gymnastics for that. New entry is on the outside is where there's a closet that accesses in a ladder up to the scuttle on the roof, which we're going to eliminate. And we can just put a stair, we can just put an access ladder out in the service courtyard, not seen, and utilize that space for something better. What was the, we've seen a lot and they all look very similar. When the, the left round, whatever you call the rounded area. That's the rear terrace, yeah. That's outdoor terrace now. When you were all the way out and it was red, what was it doing? What were you? We were enclosing them, moving the glass lines out and then making a conditioned space to gain 40 or 50 more sheets. Air conditioned space. It wasn't just a. Yes, air conditioned. It would be part of the dining room. And that's the, all the way out in the, that's the most expensive option. Correct. Yeah. But that could be brought in too, because like I said, they're all little projects. Right. You can pick and choose. We could do that down there. You could design them all, see how they work, how they permit. Right. And when we go out to bid, in my opinion, you could get alternate bids for different elements. We all know that's a big thing is having more capacity for larger events. So we can make it a great space, but if it's still, it still constrains things. Right. But my, my question was, when we looked at that, is my beginning statement about, we're not seeing it because of the size of the kitchen. So while we are expanding the storage, which should be important, the kitchen is still the size of the kitchen. They're getting some prep area, but yeah. Sure, sure. Well, I believe in, I don't recall the number exactly, but I think their seating capacity now for event was like 140, 45. A hundred. Is that correct? Seating. And so they're turning, they're turning away a lot of parties. Right, right. In corporate weddings that, you know, I need 180. That's why I think that Manowall, opening that up is going to be tremendous because you're just really going to be able to enhance that. That's more like a cocktail area. Sure. You know, but again, you can. But again, we'd have to handle air conditioning there and put blowers so the heat gain and what have you. But yes, closing the back was to pick up another 40, 50, 60 tables, depending on the type of seating you do. But if, to Council Member Horland's, Council President Horland's point, if you went out and air conditioned it, you get more seating capacity. But then now the kitchen is going to be very tough to serve that many patrons. Well, not because by adding that storage, you're moving a lot of the secondary dishes out of the kitchen. All the prep and the breads and the desserts and the salads and et cetera, et cetera. Beverages. It could even become a second serving area within that little nook there that waitress and waitresses come straight out and wouldn't have to come from the other side. So it's a very flexible space as needed to be used. And it would have access directly from the outside from the delivery for any things that need to come in the same way. Okay. Thank you. So you've heard A, B, C, D, two, two and a half, three. So I'm prepared to go with the D, which is what the city has come up with. But what I want to ask Council Member Fadgen is, he said the basics on the starter pavilion. So I want to see how that could be materially adjusted. Well. Because that would be D, correct? Council Member Fadgen, the basics would still be the bathrooms and the office. Yeah. All we're adding, I think it would be a shame not to add a terrace, which is about 30 by 18, which is just columns and a roof and a slab. Okay. It's not a conditioned space. It's not. So the cost of construction on that would probably be, I don't know, $120 square foot versus $350 for finished air-conditioned, plumbing, electrical. Okay. But that's, you know. Part of the thought process with going with that option with the covered terrace is that we're going to relocate the starter shed, caddy corner from where it's located now so that when patrons, golfers go out there, they can actually enjoy the sunset views. Okay. Which has a really nice view from there. Sure. As well as enjoy some of the beverages and small snacks instead of crowding, going into the clubhouse per se. And we do have a TV program throughout there. It's supposed to be enjoying the sunset. May I have one more quick thing? Yes, absolutely. Councilman Harris. If you were eliminating the showers in the main bathrooms, wouldn't we have to then have them out at the starter thing? We do have them. Well, but not in the light version, the scaled down starter thing, did you still have the showers? Yes. So can you go quickly to that plan? Well, just either way. You had them in both. Yes. All the starter booths had showers. The little one, the middle, and the big one. So, Council President, I hear four now. So four or D? I'm D. Yeah. I'm fine if we can get a consensus on D. Is this one or is this? That's D. This is D. That is D. Number four. With the starter. I was numbering them. Okay. Can you imagine? I'll give you your TVs if you give me the rest of the starter pavilion. What do you want from me? Well, what he's saying is really just putting the slab in, it's materially not going to be there. Okay. Then I misunderstood what it was, so. Okay. Yeah, like I said, it's basically. How many people use the showers? Apparently you don't when you go up there? I go home. I go home. That's up to the city and management, you know? You might want to shower. What the management company had said to us several times is that. I'm sorry? What the management company had explained to us is that various times they do have several people either arriving here from the airport. Okay. Or stopping here on the way to the airport. So that they do have people that will want to get around to golf in, take a shower, and then they're heading straight to the airport. But by the starter pavilion that we're proposing here, it's about 1,300 square feet total, but only 400 square feet of it is actually air conditioned. Okay. Okay. So, and by moving the showers to the starter pavilion, we are gaining the additional space to allow the exterior entry and exit from the restrooms. And more to the point of I've been all sweaty and I want to take a shower or whatever, better out there than, you know, in the main building of the, you know, in my attendant. Okay. Do we have a consensus or any further questions? Council members? Okay. Council member Andrea and I are supportive of D. Anybody else? You all wanted to ask, did we just all come around to D where they basically had to solve them? D is basically what, once they went back, it's not C. It's not as expensive as C. It doesn't have that whole outdoor dining that you were looking at. But basically, this is when they talk to administration and the facilities management, what they felt their needs were. I meant from each of everybody's comments, did it basically capture it all? I guess for me, I was at 2.5. This adds in the starter pavilion. Right. So the only thing is what we discussed is right there at 11 to make that sound partition, pocket door, whatever you want to call it. Because I worry if you have a DJ going on or something real lively. We can do that. Yeah. On one side that it would carry over. We'll just have to make sure both sides have sinks and ice bins and, you know, double loaded as well. Right. Okay. That's a question. Yes. The starter pavilion, I see it in the corner, in the diagram, in the layout here. But where actually would it, is it located? You want to go to the site plan? Like on the site plan? Yeah, on the site. Way at the beginning. And while you're going there, can anybody take care of that golf ball sitting on Broward Boulevard for me, please? It really doesn't represent what we're trying to create at this golf course. Okay. Renee, no, you're passing. Yeah. Where are you going? Oh. Okay, that's a better view. That spot. So the terrace would face the lake in the sunset. And so just remind me, though, is that the cost for that alone, if we were to – because you said it's obviously a standalone, right? Yes. So if we were to do what is in that D or the final modified version but not the starter booth, what would it look like? He gave that on his presentation. You're looking at the proposed cost SMF for construction based on D. You're looking between 3.4 and 3.6. Right. Well, 3.4, 3.6 was the final modified version, but that included the starter booth, right? That included the starter booth and the al fresco patio covered area. Right. I mean, listen, my only thought is that since that's a standalone that you could do the whole clubhouse renovation without the starter booth and do the starter booth at a later point in time. But then that affects the showers, which is one of the things that was talked about with management. Right. I heard the comment, people are coming from the airport and using it. I don't know who does that. But I would think it's minimal. There again, you know, you could draw it up and put it as an alternate bid. And what it comes in at, then the decision would be made to be included or included. It's, you know. Just go with consensus. Yeah. Could I? If I could just interject, I was going to have part of my presentation, but part of the starter booth is going to integrate with the driving range. And it gives us an opportunity to reconfigure how that works with the redesign of the golf course. We really can't do that later. It's going to shift and allow us to really reconfigure the driving range extended. And what I was going to talk about was the accommodation of the golf bays that have this TrackMan technology. That can introduce a different type of golfer that doesn't golf for four hours. They just want to come and hit a ball. That's a new revenue stream. You have it now, but there's a certain percentage of people that don't golf. And this becomes your entree to people who might get into golf later on. So part of the idea is to be able to integrate that now and have that patio feature and even a beverage service, because those folks sometimes don't go in the clubhouse. Some of them go down, they park, they walk down there, they hit the balls, and they leave. If you have beverage opportunity to stand a few people with them, you're going to generate more revenue. So just a quick question on that, then. Part of the idea. Yeah, go ahead. Just a quick question, Council President, because I know we're almost out of time. So although it may look like a stand-alone, it may look very separate, it's completely integrated into the entire place. Integrated because we're talking about infrastructure. We have to dig up IT conduit. No, that makes sense. Everything. You're going to rip everything up. We do. Thank you. Okay. D. Thank you. Okay. Do we have a consensus on D? Okay. Thank you, Rene, Mr. Castorio. We have a consensus on D. Thank you very much. All right. Madam President. Yes. Miller Leg. Can you get it done in nine? I want to say something. We run a few minutes over. Basically, one of the things I covered right there was important. Would you mind introducing yourself again? Oh, Dylan Larson with Miller Leg. Nice to see you. Happy to be here again. I'm going to skip through a lot of stuff because you've seen me present before. Part of what I just covered was very important there. So bad news is we always find something bad. Recharge well will get replaced. The wet well is okay. So that's good news. The turf acquisition should be coming before the 21st. Concept C is updated with some minor adjustments. Waste bunkers in native areas that the golfers can look at and hill by hole narratives in there. This is one of the big introductions that came about with discussion of the management companies integrating golf ball tracing technology. That can add revenue in their opinion. There's a few ways they can do that. But again, that introduces different folks who might not golf for rounds or whatever. So right now we're looking at accommodating 10 bays of a similar thing like this. And we have an ability to have a future canopy over that area. Management and everything decide not to put that in because that's another expense. But if we put the infrastructure in that maybe could allow for a canopy that gives you shade and stuff later on. Could do it now. But again, that's an added expense. So that's a really neat thing that allows us to do an integration like I said in that whole area and kind of re-envision how that flows and address some shortcomings. The Gulf Pro is identified with the starter shack and management of that area. Schedule is very important. October 21st we're coming back for the contract for the turf, our design, Frank's in mind. And what we've integrated here is the construction clubhouse schedule. At the bottom, kind of integrated, according with Frank, one of the things I want to point out there, we can be pretty much on the same schedule. The golf course might start first. But one of the key things what we identified is the clubhouse construction will be longer than the golf course anyways. So as long as we can get a bathroom open and the pro shop open, we can open the golf course, even if the interior design is still being done. So that was our logic because it's no different than you just saying, hey, we're going to do the inside event space and keep it open. So right now there will probably be a gap when the golf course opens, the clubhouse is still in construction, but that's how we can address that. And that's the thing. And again, that's the kind of sunset view we talked about. We were willing to take advantage of where the patio would kind of face that way and also look at trackmen and stuff like that. So we think that's an added revenue opportunity with beverage and a host of things associated with that starter shack that really should be integrated. That's where it will be kind of located. The starter booth right now is to the left, but where it's been talked about is to relocate it to the right because it's a redo. There's no water stored, but you'd have a similar thing. But we might redo it, but the range is right there. It might be reconfigured, but we want to take advantage of that view and so forth. That was it. Did you need anything from us tonight, Mr. Larson? Just to be aware, you know, really our key dates in October coming back to be approved to go forward, the turf and everything, because our critical dates are to start the construction in 2028. Okay. So we're still on the track. And again, I'll just emphasize, you know, things are kind of degrading. I just found out since September 10th, you know, three irrigation lines have broken, one, six, and seven. So, you know, things are starting to break down. We can't keep kicking the can down the road. Right. You know, type of thing and all this. So that's all. Councilmember Fadgen, did you have a question from Mr. Larson? Yeah, just a quick question. So the modifications that we're going to do to the course with the reduction of the bunkers and such, we're going to be staying true to the designing architect? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So the second question I have regarding what we're going to do with the modification of the course is, I remember back in the day we used to host Q School. Will that still be, are we going to be maintaining the course that that's still a possibility? I think that's a discussion with management and so forth. But I'm just saying we're not going to cut the distances where we couldn't host it? No. No, no, no. Okay. In other words, we're not going to dump down the course. No. No, the yardage and all that's staying the same. I mean, there was discussion to address some safety issues, one, to do that. But I think with the ability to move the starter shack and that, that allows us to not have that happen and free up some opportunities to address that safety concern that has been raised by management. Okay. I appreciate your work on this and I look forward to voting on it at the next meeting. And you look forward to golfing out there when it's all done. If I have time, 2029. Thank you, Mr. Larson. Mr. Morgan? It's not related to the golf. Okay. All right. So I just wanted to give you a quick update from a time standpoint in between the meetings. The sunrise traffic case that you all have been following, there's an oral argument scheduled now for December the 8th. Okay. Just to keep you updated on that. Thank you very much. And Mr. Larson, thanks for getting that done so quickly. It is 5.56. We're going to adjourn the workshop and convene the city council meeting. We're dealing with the city council meeting. 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