If we can please have the commission start coming forward and PNZ board members, if she promises to. All right. If I can please have the city clerk call the roll for the commission and then Jessica will call the roll for the PNZ board members. Commissioner Caldwell. He's here. Commissioner Harriot. Here. Commissioner Howington. Commissioner Novick. Here. Commissioner Santiago. Here. Vice Mayor Villa-Vasquez. Mayor Villa. Here. Hold on. Can you turn on your mic, please? Pat Northey. Here. David Stewart. Here. Vice Chair Diarco. Secretary Amoroso. Chair Cardo. Member Warnecke. Here. Alternate O'Brien. Alternate Guida. Alternate Hassan. And alternate Zaltos. Let's go through the process first. Let's please stand for the pledge again, and I will have Commissioner Harriot lead us in the pledge this time. All right. We're going to go ahead and get started with a joint workshop for the city commission, the planning and zoning board. And do we need extra seats for any of the alternates to come up here, or are we okay with? We can bring up an extra seat. How many alternates do we have in the audience? Two. We can bring up two seats if possible. Okay. Do you want to do that? Okay. Can we get two seats? We just got to make sure that. That's fine. Okay. So just the regular. Regular seats. Regular board members. Yes. Got you. All right. Let's go ahead and get started. Mr. Smith, go ahead. Mayor and Commissioner and members of the planning and zoning board. The second half of tonight's workshop will focus on Chapter 4, Plan Implementation, as part of the comprehensive plan amendment process. The purpose of this discussion is to review the proposed implementation strategies and confirm the overall direction of the comprehensive plan is consistent with the adopted Deltona Vision 2050 guiding principles. At this time, I will turn it over to Kathy from JB Pro and Simon. Good evening, everyone. Thank you for being here this evening and allowing us to bring back yet another workshop. We've been working on this for about two years, so we're very excited to continue. Quick introduction and a quick overview. We're going to go through a project update. We're going to discuss the vision plan as it relates to the comprehensive plan. We're going to talk about what next steps we're going to move forward to actually developing and adopting the comprehensive plan and transmitting it for the fall. And then so many closing remarks. Throughout the presentation tonight, you're going to see that we're using the Slido tool to help us gather your input. So if you have your phones out, we will have a few questions throughout that will use our Slido. So tonight, the purpose of tonight's meeting is really is a transition. We have completed the workshops, the formal workshop period, and now we're moving into the development of goals, objectives, and policies to update the comprehensive plan. So this is a transition period that ties the vision plan that we've adopted last year to the goals, objectives, and policies that we will be bringing forward for the fall. So at this point, we're going to do a recap of everything that we've done on the project, so dates, and then it will really help us understand how we are transitioning into the next phases of the project. So in June of 2024, we initiated the vision plan. We did a series of workshops to really understand what the desired vision of the city is. And so this was done to really ensure that we are having consistency with Florida law to address existing looming planning challenges. And most importantly, to make sure that we have a shared vision for the city that we want to see going forward. And this was adopted in March of 2025. And so these were the four workshops that were done, one in June of 2024, one in August, one in October, and the last one was in 2024 of December. And out of these four workshops, we came up with this vision statement that in 2050, the city of Deltona will be known as Central Florida's premier community for family-friendly living. And so this was the vision statement that came out of all the four workshops that we did. And out of these vision statement and workshops, we also came up with some guiding principles that will really help us achieve this vision that we want to see in 2050. The first one is to support the city's family-friendly identity by offering a range of activities, events, amenities, business, and housing that serves all ages and groups. The second one is to prioritize redevelopment over new development by focusing growth to areas that are already served by existing infrastructure and services. And the next guiding principle was to cultivate a walkable, mixed-use environment where people of all life stages can safely assess opportunities to live, work, play, shop, and grow within working distance of their homes. The next one was to cultivate an economy that features a diverse range of industries and jobs, ensuring that professional growth for residents at all skills levels and at different life stages, as well as enhance the city's transportation system by prioritizing safety, improving connectivity, accommodating all forms of motorized and non-motorized levels of travel, sorry, and then to protect the city's natural resources by acquiring and preserving environmentally sensitive lands and ensuring development has minimal impact on the local ecosystem. The last guiding principle was to prioritize maintaining and enhancing the quality of the city's existing public facility over expansion while ensuring new development are sufficiently assessed for the cost of infrastructure expansion. And so you can see some of the workshops that we did, some of the activities that people did, coming up with a vision map, and then we asked those who attended those workshops to write on some of these things to really see which areas they want to see development, mixed-use, more walkable areas, more dense areas. And so these were some of the outcomes that came out of that. So like I said before, we're going to be using Slido to help capture our, and do you think these vision statements and guiding principles continue to reflect what you would like to see in Deltona? Again, we just want, we want to remind everybody where we came from and want to make sure that we're on the right track as we proceed into the goals, objectives, and policies. The, if you, you can either go to slido.com and add the, under the number, or you can do the QR code. And anyone in the audience can participate in this as well. Yes, Commissioner Harriet. And let's try to hold all the questions until they're done. Yeah, no, I understand that. Um, okay, so you want to do it similar to the last workshop instead of rather having a discussion. Yeah, because they haven't even started, and then there's a big group here, and then we're going to kill this and run out of time. Okay. So next, we're going to look at the vision plan to the comprehensive plan, and we're going to identify each of the guiding principles to what we have heard through the workshops that we've done for the comprehensive plan. So now that we've gone through the visioning plan, we've had three workshops specifically to the comprehensive plan, and here we are today to make the connection between the two. The first one, we dealt with housing choices and mixed use. The second one, we dealt with transportation and nature and wildlife corridors. And then the last one in March, we discussed public services, facilities, and infrastructure. And this was the vision map that we ended up with. We had our potential city center. We had potential redevelopment areas and mixed use center areas. We had some more along with some trail connections. And then we had an ecotourism commercial hub with office, arts districts, and more connections. Do you feel the map currently still reflects where we want to head? So you can see we identified sort of four major areas. The clouded areas in the, like, brownish color, where we saw smaller mixed use centers, and then the potential city center and the corridors are the green arrows. Yeah. We have seven responses so far. It should have stayed live even when I had clicked off of it. It did stop. It did stop, yeah. All right. One minute for the last person. There you go. There it is. Okay. Now we're going to go guiding principle by guiding principle, and we're going to connect the guiding principles that we adopted in the vision plan to what we heard in the comprehensive plan. And the first guiding principle is support Deltona's family-friendly identity by offering a range of activities, events, amenities, businesses, and housing serving all age groups. So in our workshop where we discussed housing and alternatives, we asked people to tell us what their preferred housing alternatives were, and A, the mixed use areas were the, where 19%, the majority, the largest segment, all the way down to age restricted was the least, the least. The majority were in the A, B, C, and A, B, and C, and then D, so mixed use, tiny homes, cottage courts, and accessory dwelling units. Those were the ones that received the most favorable input. And then we asked what types of businesses, and this was a range of services. But what we really heard mostly when it came to businesses was that people want their business services to be here in Deltona. They don't always want to have to leave Deltona to get basic services or to go to the grocery store or go to a restaurant area. They want to be able to receive those services here in Deltona. They also don't want to always have to leave Deltona to go to work. So they want business opportunities. They want employment opportunities that are here in the community. So the next guiding principle was to prioritize redevelopment over new development by focusing growth to areas already served by existing infrastructure and services. And so in all the workshops, we wanted to understand which areas we should focus for mixed use development. And so preference we saw was given to a redevelopment approach that includes three-story buildings, with some of them having, most of them having commercial, first ground, and then residential above. We also saw a preference for structured parking as well as wide multi-use path, so paths that allow us for bikers as well as people who are just walking or hiking. In guiding principle three, this was to cultivate a walkable mixed-use environment where people of all life stages can safely access opportunities to live, work, play, shop, and grow within walking distance of their homes. And I want to stress that these mixed-use areas and the guiding principles related to them are in the redevelopment areas. This is, as indicated in the vision map earlier, these are not everywhere. The established single-family neighborhoods were to be protected and supported, but these were in new growth. So how do we focus and allow for new growth? It was in these redevelopment mixed-use center areas. So what should a mixed-use neighborhood mixed-use center area include? It should include markets. It should include homes above shops. It should include great places for people to go to and destinations like breweries and distilleries, indoor and outdoor restaurants, libraries. And what does it look like? It looks like vertical mixed-use, where you have multiple different types of uses in one building. Depending on the area, three-story buildings, structured parking, five stories in larger areas, larger mixed-use centers, always wide multi-use paths that people can bike on or can walk, and connected transitions to those surrounding neighborhoods that we are supporting and maintaining. The fourth guiding principle was to cultivate an economy that features a diverse range of industries and jobs and share professional growth for residents at all skill levels and life stages. And so we asked them what sort of industries should we target next, and some of the major ones that came up were manufacturing, technology, medical, tourism, retail, and service. And then we also asked how do we attract these industries that we really desire to target? How do we bring them in? And the most selected options were targeted redevelopment areas, preemptive infrastructure, preemptive zoning, and public land and building assistance. And so these were sort of the major four sort of incentives that we can use to attract these industries that we really target. And the last one, which is local grants or rebate programs, was the least desired incentive to attract these targeted industries. So then when we asked about what comprehensive plan, goals, objectives, and policies could implement, guiding principle five, enhanced Deltona's transportation system by prioritizing safety, improving connectivity, and accommodating all major forms of motorized and non-motorized travel, we heard people talk about that we need to address guiding or goals, objectives, and policies that deal with transportation service priorities. First, neighborhood sidewalks, then local transit services and micromobility, local roadways, citywide trail network, and bike and pedestrian facilities. And that we recognized because we don't have limited, we are, we don't, we're a city without unlimited funds, meaning we have to make real strategic decisions that we understand future goals and immediate needs would have to be balanced. So future goals would be connectivity, multi-use paths, wayfinding, things that we can start now but they would be accomplished in the long term, versus immediate needs of sidewalk, micro-ability, local roadways, major corridors, transit facilities, and connecting to the region's rail services so that, again, we can improve connectivity not only within Deltona but between Deltona and the surrounding Orlando and Daytona Beach region. The next principle was to protect Deltona's natural resources by acquiring and preserving environmentally sensitive lands and ensuring development has minimal impact on the local ecosystem. So regarding this principle, these were some of the statements that majority agreed that new roads hinder wildlife from moving and migrating safely. Also that denser development helps protect threatened habitats. Majority disagreed with this. Majority agreed that trails or greenways can benefit or harm wildlife depending on their design. There was also a 91% majority that agreed that dedicating and conserving open spaces guides where growth occurs. And again, there was sort of a close 50-50 but still majority said that conservation is meant adequately protect wildlife from development. And then cooperation between governments is integral to sustainable growth that we had a 100% majority. So these will also inform some of the recommendations and the strategies that we put in the GOPs that helps to protect wildlife and growth. And then finally, the final guiding principle that we wanted to understand how to develop goals, objective, and policy related to is prioritize maintaining and enhancing the quality of Deltona's existing public facilities over expansion while ensuring new developments are sufficiently assessed for the cost of infrastructure expansion. So in relationship to education and civic resources, the community prioritized trade apprenticeships, vocational and business education, K-12 education, after-school care, and education and history centers and lifelong learning. So these were the five areas that the community wanted us to focus on when it dealt with education and civic resources. Again, balancing future goals versus immediate needs. Kathy, can you let us know when you're on the halfway point? You're actually passed. We're almost done. Okay. So the future goals were museums, libraries, sports complex, athletic fields. Immediate needs would be anything related to education in the current, higher education, apprenticeships, and splash pads. So areas for educate for students and youth to participate. When we dealt with emergency management, that emergency management, medical services, fire services, pre-disaster preparation, disaster response, and finally, law enforcement and emergency shelter were last. And again, then we're prioritizing and balancing future goals versus immediate needs. Future goals including improving or providing police service here locally through a local police department. Hospitals and dispatch operations versus immediate needs of fire service, mental health, emergency shelter, evacuation preparedness, and disaster post-current and recovery. And then when we talked about parks, recreation, and cultural services, priorities included boat ramps and water access, conservation lands, community parks and plazas, playgrounds and splash parks, and community gardens. And again, we're balancing goals, future goals versus immediate needs. So future goals including sports, new sport complexes, splash pads, outdoor venues, areas for event space and botanical gardens, larger facilities versus immediate needs, waterfront, urban and nature playgrounds, athletic fields, public art, greenways, conservation, plazas, and boat ramps. And then when we looked at public services and utility priorities, stormwater management was topped, followed by potable water, wastewater, sustainable retrofits, and broadband and high-speed internet. And again, balancing goals, future goals versus immediate needs, broadband and solid waste management being future. And then immediate water supply, wastewater management, septic to sewer, utility expansion, utility modernization, flood prevention, stormwater management, sustainability, retrofits, code enforcement, and city services. So now that we have gone through all of the guiding principles and we've connected them to our discussions related to the goals, objectives, and policies, we want to know have we adequately captured how you feel about the implementation priorities for implementing the guiding principles established in the vision plan. So generally speaking, people, generally speaking, and this has been consistent across, that you feel like we've done a pretty good job at capturing the connection between the vision plan and the issues facing the goals, objectives, and policies. At this point, before we get into the next steps, I'm happy to take a break and we can have a more thorough discussion, Mayor. Okay. So this is the way we're going to do the questioning because there's some folks that don't have microphones. If you're sharing a microphone, obviously, click, and they made it open, which I asked them not to. That way we can control the speaking over each other. So if we can fix that in the back, I'd appreciate it. I'll call you right now, Commissioner Harriet is first. And then if you want to speak, just make sure that the closest microphone or two, you just click on, and that's it. Thank you, Mayor. Procedurally, I'd like, there's really two questions, going back to the very first slide and then also on this slide. I'd like to understand on the first slide, there was a couple people or 13% said that they disagreed that the vision statement was representative of the community. And I'd like to understand kind of why that was. And then same with this guiding principle or this slide about the implementation priorities for the guiding principles. Three, I can understand 50-50, you know, there were a lot of things that maybe should have gone, that we were already working on and whatnot. But who ranked it as a one, I'd like to understand where the disconnect is. So that's where this open discussion is now, so we can have that discussion. And that's exactly why we're doing this at this point, because it was over a year ago that we adopted that vision statement and guiding principles. We want to make sure that we're still on the right path as we get into, as we start to bring forward the goals, objectives, and policies. So I don't think we need somebody to call themselves out. We just need to have a general comment and discussion about making sure we're headed in the right direction. Thank you. Commissioner, I'm sorry. Member Diarico and then Member Northey. Am I on? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. So if we could just flip back maybe one or two slides to where we saw the future and the current, so just a point of clarification, if I may. Yeah. As you have the immediate needs listed, are those in order of priority, or are those just in random order? They're just in random order. Okay. Very good. Thank you. Remember, the goals and objectives and policies, these are just, all these are items that we were asked to make sure that we address in goals, objectives, and policy, not necessarily a specific order or a specific priority, just that within the goals, objectives, and policies, as relates to those specific elements, that we are capturing those ideas. Very good. Thank you. Will we, at some point, like this immediate needs, we're already not particular on this one, but on some of the others, well, we are doing some stuff on this one. And how are we marrying what we are currently doing with what immediate needs are? So immediate, I would expect that some of your immediate needs are probably being already addressed. That's the whole point. It's an immediate need. You're dealing with it. What we will do is we will look at the goals, objectives, and policies in each of your documents and make sure that those are reflected there. And then we will also share this information with staff to make sure that it's updated in their capital improvement plan. Okay. So can I ask, specific to this slide here, under future goals, you have broadband. We are right now in the process of laying fiber optic all over the city. So how do you, I mean, that almost seems like that's kind of old technology. It's both, right? There's always an immediate when it comes to technology, and then in a long-range plan, you're looking 20 years out. So I know we're talking about 5G and broadband now, but I just got back from Europe and some of the networks, we're looking at 6G. And so in a long-range plan, you're going to have an immediate need where you're saying, okay, we are working actually with staff, and staff is working with the telecom company to get the 5G now to get the broadband thing. But then you also have policies down the line on, hey, the next piece of technology that comes along as well. So, Mayor, if you want, we can go back to the very first guiding principle and just walk through the guiding principles. Sure. That's good. Yeah. We'll do that. Thank you for fixing the microphones. We'll note that from the consultant perspective, there was a lot of feedback from the public on immediate needs, and you'll see that it's really weighed on one side. Some of it is actually being done, but where there aren't as much motion as a city, you will have to make some decisions about how to balance that because you have finite resources and finite staff, right? So, you have a certain amount that you can accomplish in a certain amount of time, and there might be some more parsing of the policy that we will need to run through together with you and your staff because there is a relative imbalance that you see right there. So, let's just start with the vision statement. Commissioner Herriot? Thank you, Mayor. If you don't mind. Before we get started down this, the comments about the difference between the immediate need versus the future need, the fact that we've got so many immediate needs that are currently being addressed, that tells me that we're not doing an effective job of communicating to residents what we're doing. I know the city manager stepped to the back to take a phone call, but I think it's imperative that we do a better job doing that. I'll just talk loud. Hear what you're saying, and yes, that makes sense, but from my perspective, I'm also keeping in mind, these were identified two years ago. So, yeah, so I think, again, the immediate need speaks to they truly are immediate needs because we've already started working on them in the last two years. So, again, and again, it's making sure that they are captured, and that's part of the comprehensive plan process is to let people know these are the things you told us are important, and this is what we're doing to work on it. So, this is part of that communication process. If you were not doing such a public comprehensive plan update, then that information could stay silent. But now we're identifying where those gaps are. Right. So, let's, because we were told very strictly to stick to an hour, so that's why we're trying real hard to make sure that we do that today. As you know, our workshops can run long. So, let's just start here with the vision statement. Is this vision statement still a year and three months since it was adopted? Is this still reflective of who our future is? When Kathy asks a question, what we'll do is, if we feel like it is, I'll ask for you guys to say yes. We'll all vote at the same time. If it says no, then I'll call you the second time. So, do we feel like this is still accurate? All those that agree, say yes. Yes. All those that disagree? Okay. Well, no. They could have disagreed about the guiding principles. So, we're going to go through each of the guiding principles, and as we discussed earlier, we've, these are the guiding principles, but then the information about what we heard through the last seven months, eight months, while we've been doing the comprehensive plan workshops, is that supporting Deltona's family-friendly identity by offering a range of activities, events, amenities, businesses, and housing services for all age groups. Is this something that still, we identified that a range of housing, a range of types of businesses, a range of types of services, and that they're local-based, that this is important? All those that agree, say yes. All those that disagree? Is there anything that we missed in terms of capturing what that range should include? All right. Here, you guys can, Commissioner Harriet. Okay. Anybody else? All right. The next guiding principle, Simon, it's timed out. Simon. No, it's not. Advancing. Can somebody do it? Let me try that. I can maybe turn it off and on. Oh. It's just calm of saying you're at your hour. Do you have to help? Right? Are we sure we've got on time? No. No. You'll just have to have somebody over there. Well, it's... There you go. There you go. You got it. There it goes. Yeah, it just had timed out of the computer. Okay. So, the next guiding principle was to prioritize redevelopment over new development by focusing growth to areas already served by existing infrastructure and services. And as you have seen, one of the primary ways that we have identified, listening to the community, that this should be done is by focusing redevelopment in specific targeted locations that would allow for mixed use of different ranges and different sizes. All those that agree? All those that disagree? Are there any further comments on this one? Member Northey, did you want to say something? Okay. Okay. Well, we clearly heard that that was important. From day one, that was part. And as part of that focused center area was to cultivate a walkable, mixed-use environment where people of all life stages can safely access opportunities to live, work, play, shop, and grow within walking distance of their homes, recognizing that these center areas are the centers of your neighborhoods or your center of your community or centers of the city, and that they should be connected and transition well to the existing single-family neighborhoods that surround those center areas. All those that agree? All those that disagree? The next guiding principle was to cultivate an economy featuring a diverse range of industries and jobs, ensuring professional growth for all residents at all skill levels and life stages. And that is to be done here in Deltona. All those that agree? All those that disagree? The next guiding principle is to enhance Deltona's transportation system by prioritizing safety, improving connectivity, and accommodating all major forms of motorized and non-motorized transportation through improved connections. All those that agree? No. All those that disagree? You have to click on the microphone and please wait to be called. Go ahead. Yes, sir. My apologies. And this is a genuine question. When we say enhance Deltona's transportation system, do we have a transportation system now? Do you? That's what I wasn't sure. Are we talking roads, sidewalks? Yes. Are we talking— Okay. That's what I— Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Harriet? I'd like to clarify my no. I'd like to clarify my no is specifically related to the term all because e-bikes, e-motorcycles, all of that is becoming a major form of transportation in our city, and I have a lot of problems with it, a lot of concerns, challenges, and I don't know how to—I don't know the solution, but I want to identify that as an issue right now. Is it in all areas or is it targeted areas? Yes. All across the city. No, but I mean in terms of is it a sidewalk issue? Is it a roadway issue? Yes. It's all of it. Yeah. We literally have e-bikes. We have e-bikes on the sidewalk, and it becomes an issue when they're sharing it with pedestrians. We have young kids on e-bikes that are on the road that should not be sharing a roadway with a car. Okay. That is definitely something as we get into the goals, objectives, and policies that we can address. I agree with what Commissioner Heron is saying, that that is a problem. Another issue that I don't know where you place it, but I've been doing a lot of walking these days a lot, and I always look at the condition of the places where I'm walking. I mean, some sidewalks are one-width, some are wider. We should have – would this include having a standard-sized sidewalk that is greater than five feet, which I think is the current standard now? I think we should go to six or eight. So would that fall into the transportation system or somewhere else? No, that's here. Okay. I second that. Go ahead. All right. The next guiding principle is to protect Deltona's natural resources by acquiring and preserving environmentally sensitive lands and ensuring development has minimal impacts on the local ecosystem. All those that agree? Yes. All those that disagree? Is there anything further we need to know on the – I do. As a matter of fact, a couple of commissions ago I requested us to look into some type of Deltona Forever, and this could be a great opportunity for that, for us to be able to acquire land kind of in very similar to what the county has but with some improvements so we can preserve it, whether it's for stormwater or turning it into a park just so it's not getting developed. Okay. So – Definitely something we can address in goals, objectives, and policies. Member Northey? Can I just – can we go back a slide? Yes. Okay. The – I appreciate the mayor's comments. However, we do have a fairly robust Felicia Forever that we need to be partnering with. Okay. But we have a lot of – and when we talk about preserving environmentally sensitive lands, and the mayor talked about stormwater, we have a lot of stormwater locations that are fairly significant that would be great wetlands parks. So I don't know if that's where that belongs or not, but wetland parks are – they bring birds, they bring animals, they're – people go to tourism. It's a great product. The one that we're working on down in Fort Smith is – has a good beginning, but it isn't quite there yet. So part of that is, for me, would be taking those stormwater ponds and making them as much as a wetland park as we can on the big ones. Give me one minute. We have Commissioner Harriet. Before I go to him, just for clarification, the only reason we talked about Deltona Forever a little bit was that way we can have more local control. And, you know, we – at least we control it from this dais and not have to depend on another one. So Commissioner Harriet. Thank you, Mayor. That sounds great, but I think we've been told no by the state for something like that. But along these lines, I think that the wetland park concept would fit right in with parks and recreation and with the overall ecotourism economic component. Yep. Commissioner Harriet, that's inaccurate, just FYI. Not accurate. And then the final guiding principle – Hold on. We have Commissioner Nobby. Let him go, and then we'll – Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Commissioner Nobby. Thank you. Just when we're talking about that – the ecotourism and that, it really combines both of those elements of the transportation and the natural resource. We have to create the connectivity and walkability to be able to maximize those. Okay. Please, Kathy. No? Go ahead. And then the final guiding principle was to prioritize maintaining and enhancing the quality of Deltona's existing public facilities over expansion while ensuring new developments are sufficiently assessed for the cost of infrastructure expansion. All those that agree? All those that disagree? Any comments? No? Go ahead. At that – I'm going to – sorry. The only way I can do this is by – we're going to go quickly to the next steps. We appreciate your – are there any questions, then, about how the workshops that we've done through the comprehensive plan connect to the guiding principles and vision statement that were adopted last April? And do you feel that we are ready to move on to the goals, objectives, and policies that we've sufficiently made that connection? All those that agree that we can move forward disagree? So, the – while I get to my spot in my presentation, sorry to do it this way. I just don't – since I don't have the computer in front of me, I have to – all right. All right. The final Slido question is, are there other needs or concerns that we have not discussed that need to be addressed? This is all you, Commissioner. Or Commissioner – Member O'Brien? There. Thank you very much. Yeah. Just wanted to – it's a highlight that, you know, they have been going on for the last couple of years now, about two years, 2024. One thing that should be noted is the sampling population, a lot of these surveys that we're doing. It's a lot of the same folks. I mean, most of us in this room, a lot of the folks that are participating over and over again, you know, as well as maybe a couple other, you know, key players throughout our city. So, we have 100,000, you know, residents, and yet it's the same maybe 40 or 50 people over and over again that are participating with this feedback. So, we have a lot of these, you know, rankings – excuse me – and percentages about, you know, what we're looking for in the future when it really is a small population of, you know, the residents and the citizens. So, I think it's important as we keep going forward to think about how we can continue to increase that population that participates and then also just, you know, monitor engagement, whether that be, like, in person or online. That's it. Thank you. Can I get a quick vote to extend the meeting for 15 minutes? I also want to give public – the ability for public comments. So, all those in favor to extend for 15 minutes? All those opposed? All right. Commissioner Harriot? Thank you, Mayor. I think that some of the other concerns that need to be addressed or, well, need to be considered are changes with the state funding abilities and just overall control abilities within development. So, I saw a couple areas within the slides where we've already been preempted on things that can't be done without giving up something. And in order to do it, we have to incentivize it, i.e. give them more density or more – and so I just want to make sure that we take those things into consideration when we're putting together some policies and procedures. We are. Commissioner Knobbeck. Thank you, Mayor. Is there an element within the plan to evaluate and update and reengage? So, as an example, I'll go back to my firefighting days. You roll up, you size up, you come up with a plan, you execute, you evaluate its effectiveness. If it's being effective, you support it. If it's not being effective, you go back and change the plan and put some different resources. Is there an element to the plan that contains that and then what is – how do we measure that effectiveness? Is there a guidance in the plan to measure that effectiveness? In comprehensive plan, Commissioner, this is done in one of two ways. Some cities, for example, when I rewrote Fort Lauderdale comprehensive plan, we added an administrative element that is not required under the state statute, but because the city felt it's important to put this into the strategic plan and have regular metrics that they put in a new element within that structure. In other cities, the evaluation metrics are built into the policies themselves as evaluation measures. It's been done both ways, but this is something that we can further discuss with your staff and bring back to you, I believe, options toward the plan zoning and the commission consideration. Yeah, I'd like to see that. Yeah, there's a requirement. One of the elements in your – is the plan implementation, and the plan implementation will discuss how to make sure that this is achieved long-term. Right. Yeah. Done in a number of ways. All right. Are we okay with going to public comment now? You're good, Kathy? Yeah. We are – we have a little bit left, but it's next steps. Let's get done with that so then we can go. We only have one person in public comment. Okay. So next steps, as we've discussed, we are moving into policy development. Our next workshop will be July 27th. It is a Monday evening. And at that workshop, we are going to focus on, which is really a major component of your updated conference plan, is these redevelopment areas, is these mixed-use areas. We will be bringing forward a draft map with a series of center types. They include a downtown-uptown, a community center, a community corridor, a main street corridor, a neighborhood center, an ecotourism or ecocenter, which is for ecotourism-focused, and an economic center. The map will show where these different centers are located. It will show the density standards for all of them and some design principles. We will also be working to show you, in the various elements, how those policies would get adopted. So that will be the first set of goals, objectives, and policies that we bring forward are related specifically to the mixed-use centers. And then we will have two more workshops afterwards that will deal with general policies in the entire conference plan. And our goal is to do a transmittal by November. I think the biggest thing, if I can just add, in those policies, we just want to make sure that in some of these areas that we're talking about, we're very strict on if we are allowing specific redevelopment or developments. It just happened not too long ago. We approved something. And then Jordan knows, because I complained to him about it, the developer went back. And I'm just going to tell you what it was. I'm not going to put a gas station. And all of a sudden, they're going to put a gas station. So I have a big problem with that. And we need to make sure that if we're agreeing to something, it's not fair that we can go back on that agreement, but they can. So I want to make sure that in those policies, we're extremely strict on if any change has to come that they want to do, it has to come back before the commission. Not even the PNZ board, but the commission. So that would be a standard that we would do in the land development code. So I'm going to go to the next section. The first step is to develop your goals, objectives, and policies in your comprehensive plan. And if you think of a funnel, your comprehensive plan and goals, objectives, and policies are at the top. They tend to be a little bit more broad. They don't tend to be as specific. And then in order to implement those ideas, we bring it down into your land development code. And it is in the land development code that we can get more specific, and we can establish new procedures and make sure that things like that may or don't happen. So the next step after the comprehensive plan is to ensure that the comprehensive plan gets adopted and implemented. And there's two major places that the comprehensive plan is adopted and implemented. One is your land development code. And clearly, we're going to have some changes in your land development code. We're creating these mixed-use centers. They will need to be implemented. We don't want this to be an idea that just sits on a shelf. And 20 years from now, people go, well, that was a really cool idea, but it never happened. So the land development code is how we make sure those things happen. The next piece is your capital improvement plan. Your capital improvement plan is your financial capital budgeting tool that helps ensure that your priorities are being implemented in appropriate ways. So those two tools will come after the adoption of the comprehensive plan. In that plan, the last request I'm going to put in there is we have, if somebody is zoned to build something, for example, housing, can we make sure, and this might be a exact thing, but it's buildable land. For example, if they own 10 acres, but they have like five acres of wetland, they can only build on five acres on their property because they don't have 10 acres of buildable land. It's five acres of buildable land. On that buildable. That's, again, a land development code standard, but something we can set the framework for. Think of your comprehensive plan as the framework. These are the ideas. These are the things that we want to make sure. They need to be consistent by statute. Your land development code needs to be consistent with your comprehensive plan, but your land development code is really where those really specific details happen. Got it. Commissioner Cowell? I just want to add to that to make sure that the density is calculated based on actual buildable land as opposed to the entire site. Okay. Great. Any other further comments? If not, this is the conclusion of our component of if there are comments. And, again, July 27th will be our next workshop, and that will deal with specifically the goals, objectives, and policies related to the mixed-use centers. All right. Joyce, public comment, please. Well done. I got to say, being the only person left in this room out of the public who has been here since the beginning of your process up until the finality of tonight, you seem to have captured everything that I've heard people talk about, hope for, and wish. I'm taking in on consideration a lot of concerns, and you've done an excellent job. Mayor and Pat Northey, I am so proud of you, too. I wish you were my kids. I have never liked what's come out of your mouths as much as I heard tonight. Okay. I have to disagree with the comment that there wasn't enough input here. We had comment from lots and lots and lots of people, you know, hundreds even, over the course of this entire thing. And there were a lot of proxy people. I consider myself a proxy because there's been dozens, if not, once you multiply it by my wife's social network, hundreds of people who have given us input, which has all been seen in what you presented tonight. And this is going to be a great place to live in another 20 years. And that's all I've got to say. Have a good night. Oh, there we go. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. We've taken very much to heart what we have heard from you. We've worked very hard in understanding what we heard and how those connect to the guiding principles and the vision statement and now to the goals, objectives, and policies. And we look forward to completing this plan with you and then working with you to implement it through your land development code. Thank you so much, Kathy. City Manager, any further comments? No? Meetings adjourned. City Manager, any further comments?