roll call. Commissioner Villa-Vasquez. Present. Commissioner Caldwell. Commissioner Howington. Commissioner Novick. Commissioner Santiago. Vice Mayor Harriet. Mayor Villa. All right at this time if everybody would stand I'll say a prayer for the invocation. Heavenly Father we ask you today that you provided the commissioners guidance and clarity. We ask for your wisdom Lord. We ask that you give us the courage to make the decision that best represents our community and is in the best business for our community. Lord we ask that you hear all the needs of our residents and our neighbors and you fulfill their needs Lord. We ask that you bless our first responders and bring them home safe. We ask that you watch over and bless our military personnel that are serving at home and abroad and you bring them back to their families Lord. We ask this in your son's name. Amen. At this time I would like to ask troop 340 to come to the front and do their flag ceremony and pledge. Audience attention. Audience please rise. Those in uniforms please salute. Those non-uniforms please put your right hand over your heart. Please follow me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and into the republic for which it stands one nation under God and indivisible for liberty and justice for all. Two. Y'all may be seated. Thank you. I'd like to thank troop 340 for doing the pledge for us and then I'll ask if the commissioners can meet me down at the front for honoring retired Sergeant First Class Jake Thomas this month. Thank you. At this time I'd like to present this recognition to Sergeant First Class retired Jake Thomas for his dedicated service dedicated service and sacrifice to the our community. Thank you sir. You want to come and take a picture with us? At this time can I ask for any additions and deletions? I know that we've got one addition for resolution 2025-168. If that's okay with the commission we put that at the end of right after the consent agenda not part of the consent agenda but immediately following. Are there any other additions and deletions? Vice Mayor if I may just read the title. Yes. Resolution number 2025-168 a resolution of the city of Deltona Florida approving the settlement of all claims made by Stacey Kiffalo providing for implementation and an effective date. Thank you. Any others? Commissioner Howington? Thank you Vice Mayor. Yes I wanted to see if the commission would be willing to hear discussion on automated school zone speed detection systems. This was something that was brought up by a resident and they asked if we would consider it it would be something that would be in line with state statute and so I'm just asking that we have a discussion at some point whether it be after consent or after ordinances to discuss the possibility of directing the city manager and city attorneys to research this to see if it's something we might be interested in. Kind of goes hand in hand with the e-bike ordinance that we've been working on. Can we ask that this be put on the next commission agenda? Sure if we'd like to go that route. Either way just wanted to get it out in front of everybody because it was an ask from a resident. Thank you. Commissioner Villal-Vasquez? Thank you Vice Mayor. Is that for Board of Education? Would that be under us or would that be something to discuss with the Board of Education? No this actually falls under us. It would go in the school zone so it would actually be on a city street or potentially if it falls in a county area it would be a county issue. Okay thank you. Commissioner Novick? Thank you Vice Mayor. I just would request that Commissioner Howington get with the managers so staff can have the details and adequately prepare to give us information about it at the next meeting. I have no problem with going on the agenda. I think it's a great idea but just give staff some time to get ready. Sure absolutely. Can we get a verbal all in favor of putting on the next agenda say aye. Aye. No opposed. Thank you. Thank you. Okay at this point I would can we do well I think maybe eight a one yes all right at this time we'll go to presentations awards and reports. Do we have anybody presenting the Operation Deltona Cares update? Perfect there he is. Thank you Chief. If you can just push the little microphone button on the speaker. Good evening everybody my name is Robert Donaldson. I am a representative of the Deltona Firefighters Foundation IFF 2913 and I am also a proud member of Deltona Fire Department. Today I'm here to talk to you about Operation Deltona Cares. This is one of our greatest and biggest endeavors that we do throughout the year of providing Christmases for families in need. Humble beginnings in a big heart. Lieutenant Gallagher started this program with her own funds in 2010. She walked into many houses saw there were no trees, no presents, no food. She wanted to help so she came back and got started. Shortly after that she was able to get the union and the personnel from the department to better help her and donate their own money and donations from the union to help more and more people as it grew. As you can see here a lot of fun wrapping, everybody volunteering, all of it going to the citizens. A grand idea was borrowed. I'm not going to say we created this because we didn't. We borrowed it from another department. We stood on the shoulders of giants and we brought the fire trucks out and did fill the fire truck. It's a great event. We do it with Walmart every year and honestly it works in collaboration with our citizens. Luckily we've been very successful with it. We have family, all the firemen come out. We have 100% participation from our entire department throughout the entire event which is absolutely amazing. Walmart is one of our biggest partners in this. They give us front row center. Their delegate Salik is always wonderful. He's already called me this year before I even had the chance to call him because they are excited to work with us. Community support. Nothing we do is even possible. Not in the most remote way possible without the citizens of Deltona. I am beyond grateful. Every one of the members of Deltona is grateful for everything they give us and how they help us and all their donations. It's absolutely staggering the amount that we get. A family affair. For those who don't know my two daughters are in the picture up there. Dead center and to the left of the blonde hair blue eyed ones can't miss them. But other than that what became amazing about fill the fire truck in this whole event was the integration of the family. Everybody brought their kids. Everybody showed their kids that Christmas is about giving back. It's about more. They do amazing things. My daughter Jade stays out there the entire day. She participates in every aspect and she hates some of it but she loves the entire thing and is jonesing to do everything. My daughter Bailey over there is a typical I'm heading to college see you guys later but she's still coming back to do this program and she is excited. Last year if you look at the bottom left you'll see the picture they set up a mobile nail salon in the back of the fire truck and they started dragging people into it and what did that end us with? These people were so excited and so happy and saw such joy they went back into the store and bought more presents. It's an absolutely amazing thing. A wonderful family affair. Our local business partners not just Walmart but Italianos, Beefo Brady's. This year my Greek Taverna has offered to pitch in so we try to incorporate the whole community in everything we do. Santa's workshop. Every year we designate one of the training rooms in our departments and we fill it full of gifts turn it into a workshop and that's basically where everything gets worked out of. It's an absolutely amazing place. It makes me smile. It gets divided in a very OCD way into all the age groups and everything along those lines but it's a good time. What everybody looks forward to delivery day. Delivery day is a wonderful day. We used to drive and deliver them to the houses. This proved to be a little difficult with schedules so now we do a drive-through at station 61. Families come through we load the gifts up for them and it works amazing. It's a lot of fun. All right expanding our outreach year after year. I went back to 2019 just to show you the growth that we've done from 20 families up to 37 families 140 children. We assist pastor Wanda Bruce with her toy drive. We donate to guardians at lightem. For those who don't know is an absolutely wonderful program in our area. They give representatives to children that need them and one of the things they do is bring a toy to bond with them. We are more than happy to give them all the leftovers we have once everything's done because it's a program I truly believe in. And over the past two years we've incorporated the shoe boxes which is done in conjunction with the Sons of Italy. I will tell you this year alone though we have gotten over 108 applications. Oh wow. So and that is just to date and that was at two o'clock this afternoon and they've been pouring in more and more. So this is going to be our biggest year and we're going to need the most outreach that we can from our citizens. Other than that Operation Deltone Cares truly is compassion and action. These are the men and women who not only made it their career but made it their life to help the community on and off duty. And they care every ounce about this and they give everything they can to it. But it's not just that. They do a lot more. The Deltano Firefighters Foundation was actually created not only for this but to help citizens in need. We have helped soldiers whose cars caught on fire and needed a hotel for the night. We have had a big rig RV catch fire and they were just stuck in the middle of nowhere thousands of miles from home and we got them to a hotel and helped them out. We go and help disabled people and make sure that if they need modifications to their bathrooms, if they need ramps for their front doors, we do everything and anything because we are actually out there to see what people need. And when we couldn't do it with just being firefighters, we created a foundation that would let us do more. I thank you all for your time tonight and I look forward to working with you in the future. Have a good night. Thank you, sir. Chief Donaldson, if you don't mind coming back up, I think we have a couple questions for you. Commissioner Vasquez, you're on, Commissioner. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Rob, thank you so much for that beautiful presentation and for all that you do for the community. When is your cutoff for the applications? Cutoff for the applications starts as December 1st. December 1st. And I just want to repeat what he said about the manicure. It's free and it's open to the guys as well. All our firefighters last year were displaying their beautiful manicure and their beautiful colors that they had in their nails. So please show up and drop off your gifts or your monetary donation is accepted as well. Black Friday at Walmart. We'll be there from 8 to 5. Yes. Let's see. So the application is December 1st and just go to the fire station, right? Yes, ma'am. Well, no, it's an online application. They can find it on social media. We have it posted all over. Okay. Because I've been asked. All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate everything you guys do for us. Anybody else before I go? All right. Yep. Almost. Almost. Commissioner. Donaldson, thank you so much for your, you've done so much with this. I know Christy Gallagher, her heart, my goodness. I remember what she did when she first started this and your family and everybody and all the firefighters and their families come together to make sure that the children here in our community are taken care of during Christmas. And I've seen it where you guys go out there and help residents build ramps and do other things that are needed that are not part of your daily duties. So thank you, number one. Number two is 108 application is a lot of applications. What is it that you specifically need from us to help you? Now, you have toys from what age to what age? What? Well, our biggest problem that we have is, of course, we can't keep up with the cost of technology. So we do the best we can. We're one of the most tailored. I want to say tailored ones possible where you try to match what they've asked for, different things along those lines. Obviously, the biggest problem we have is getting gifts for older kids. Financial donations is the greatest thing we can have. If you, once we have designated who all the people are, you will notice that you'll see a bunch of firemen walking around Walmart, holding little three by five cards of all the people they're buying clothes for because every kid gets an outfit. And then we go in and buy all the extra toys we need. And you just see a bunch of grown men in the little girls section. It's absolutely hilarious. I take pictures and make fun of them all the time. But it's truly not just one person that makes this work. It's the entire department. There is no one person. I'm the second prettiest guy in our department. At first, prettiest would have been available. He'd have come and done this speech, but he had child care issues. Another quick question. Donations to what day can you accept them? We accept donations all the way up to the 20th. And they can go to any fire station and city hall or anywhere just city. Okay. And to donate. Okay. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. Anybody else? Commissioner Howington. I have one, but it may be more for doc. So we all have an allocation of $4,000 to spend on events. Can we allocate a portion of our $4,000 event money to support this program if we so choose by commissioner? Yes, commissioner. I think maybe commissioner Novick has jumped the shark already and move forward on it. Commissioner, if you'd like to speak up. Okay. So we're, but we are allowed to do that then. Okay. Thank you so much. Commissioner Novick. I handed Rob a check for $1,000 already tonight from, from my account. And I'll do the same. I'd like to use $1,000 of my money for the program as well. Commissioner Santiago. I don't know. I think I'm going to get a divorce this year, but after all those donations I've been making to the food lines and everything, but I will also commit to $1,000. Donaldson, you got my thousand. I thank everybody. Commissioner Caldwell. I agree. I'll take a thousand out of my account. Well, it looks like we're off to a good start. All right. I think I got everybody up here. We're good. We'll take care of it. Thank you, sir. Thank you, chief. We appreciate everything that you guys are doing. Now we've got a presentation of events from Kat Barker. We have actually a lot going on until the end of the year. So I'm going to give the events for the rest of the month in the first couple of weeks of December. First of all, this Friday night is our movie in the park. We are showing Tower Heights. It has a bit of a Thanksgiving theme to it. It's going to be over at Campbell Park. Movie starts at 545 or whenever it gets dark enough to start the film. And as always, we do free popcorn and lemonade while supplies last. And then on Saturday, Saturday morning, we're doing our turkey giveaway. That's going to be over at Dewey. It starts at 8 a.m. We'll be doing it until while supplies last. I just want to make sure everybody knows this is only for Deltona residents. You do have to show ID. It's one turkey per vehicle. And this is a drive-through event. So there's not going to be walk-ups allowed. You have to drive through. And then the Deltona Pickleball Club also this weekend, they are doing a tournament over at Harris-Saxon. It's a doubles tournament, men's, women's, mixed. So if you'd like to participate, you can go ahead and sign up for that. And then mentioning the fill your truck, it's at, is Chief still here? I had a question for him, but it's over at Walmart day after Thanksgiving. He mentioned 8 to 5. They told me 7 to 5. So anyways, they're doing that. So great cause, great, great organization to help. And then a couple events in December that I wanted to mention off the top of the month. The Parks Department is doing a senior day trip to St. Augustine. So this is on December 6th. They're going to leave City Hall at noon, get back around 1030. It is $100 per person. And that includes the transportation there and back. It includes a Miracle on 34th Street, live radio play, the Knights of Lights trolley tour. So spots are feeling fast on this. So if you think you might want to go, I would, I would sign up, sign up sooner rather than later. And then on the 13th of December, Saturday night is our annual Christmas parade. And the route is going to be along Deltona Boulevard like it has been the last few years. Parade starts at six o'clock. Still plenty of room for participants. So if you're a organization, a church, a school that you would like to participate in the parade, you can go to our website. We have a link to the, to deltonachristmasparade.com. You can sign up to, to enter your group into the parade. And then there's actually a ton more stuff going on in December, but it was, it would be just be too overwhelming. So you can, you can go to our website and look at the calendar of events because there's much more going on the rest of December. Thank you, Kat. I'd actually like to take a moment and go backwards. I missed the opportunity to, when we were recognizing our veteran to read his, his bio, and I would like to do that right now. So Sergeant First Class Retired Jake Thomas served in the United States Army from 2003 to 2025, completing more than 22 years of honorable and distinguished service. Throughout his career, he played a vital role in some of the most challenging operations of the modern era. Jake served in Afghanistan and was heavily involved in the Iraq war, supporting combat and intelligence missions critical to national security. His work extended globally, including international counter-narcotics operations and missions to combat terrorism throughout Africa and the Middle East. His leadership, expertise, and commitment to protect others exemplify the highest ideals of military service. So if we could all give him a round of applause again. And I know that his, he's got his family here tonight as well. So thank you, sir. Next, we will go to the consent agenda. Can I get a motion for the consent agenda? Commissioner Santiago. Yeah. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I move to approve all items on the consent agenda, items A through H. Can I get a second? Okay. So we've got a motion from Commissioner Santiago, second by Commissioner Caldwell. I've also got nobody else on the resolution. We're going to add that at the end after the consent agenda. It'll be the next item afterwards. It's got to be a separate item. Okay. For the consent agenda, can we just do a verbal vote? All in favor? Aye. Motion passes unanimously. And then now we will go to the addition of resolution number 2025-168, if I can ask the city attorneys to read that resolution. Thank you so much. Vice Mayor, before I read, I just want to confirm with the clerk, we had no public comment for consent. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. This is resolution number 2025-168. This is a resolution of the city of Deltona, Florida, approving the settlement of all claims made by Stacey Kiffalo, providing for implementation and an effective date. I'm going to just read through these whereas clauses. Whereas on or about December 1st, 2023, Stacey Kiffalo resigned from her position as deputy city manager for the city of Deltona, Florida, later claiming whistleblower protections and claiming to have suffered loss of wages and benefits as a result. As a result of the incident, she filed a lawsuit against the city in Florida's Seventh Judicial Circuit in for Volusia County, identified by case number 2023-117-61-CIDL. Whereas Kiffalo is willing to execute a general release, extinguishing any and all claims, including all past, present, and future claims for damages arising from the resignation for the total amount of $125,000, inclusive of all costs and fees. This is the settlement amount. And whereas the city desires to avoid the uncertainties and expense of litigation, and whereas the city's insurance carrier, PGCS, will cover the cost of the settlement amount after payment of the city's deductible cost of $5,000. And whereas the city commission has determined that it is in the best interest of the city to extinguish all claims raised by Kiffalo arising from the incident for the settlement amount. Happy to answer any questions on this. We also have attorney Susan Ganey from the Roper firm. This is the law firm that was assigned by the carrier for this case. So this is a carrier case. We did have mediation in this case. And this is an amount that was recommended, strongly recommended by the carrier. And as the resolution indicates, the city's liability for this is $5,000. The carrier will pay the balance, the $120,000. And this will extinguish any and all claims, known and unknown, from Ms. Kiffalo. Thank you, city attorney. I've got Commissioner Novick, or sorry, Commissioner Caldwell. I'm sorry, that was from previous. Okay. Commissioner Novick, would you like to make a motion? Thank you, Vice Mayor. I move to approve Resolution 2025-168. Do we have a second? We've got a second from Commissioner Howington. Do we have any public comments? Hearing none, is this an item we can take a verbal vote on? No, we'd like a roll call. Roll call. Thank you. We'll use the... Commissioner Vila-Vasquez. Oh, go do it. Do the machines. He'll say a roll call. My machine went away. Okay. We'll do a verbal roll call. Commissioner Vila-Vasquez. Yes. Commissioner Caldwell. Yes. Commissioner Howington. Yes. Commissioner Novick. Yes. Commissioner Santiago. Yes. Vice Mayor Harriet. Yes. Okay, 6-0. Motion passes unanimously. At this time, we'll go to item 8A, which is a quasi-judicial hearing. Ordinance number 32-2025, a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone 7.93 acres of land located along the East Howland Boulevard corridor north of Pine Ridge High School from commercial C-1 to mixed-use planned unit development at second and final reading. Thank you so much, Vice Mayor. Before we begin, this is... Please be advised that the following items on the agenda are quasi-judicial in nature. If you wish to comment upon any of these items, please indicate the item number you would like to address when the announcement regarding the quasi-judicial item is made. An opportunity for persons to speak on each item will be made available after the applicant and staff have made their presentations on each item. All testimony, including public testimony and evidence, will be made under oath or affirmation. Additionally, each person who gives testimony may be subject to cross-examination. If you do not wish to either be cross-examined or sworn, your testimony will be given its due weight. The general public will not be permitted to cross-examine witnesses, but the public may request the commission to ask questions on their behalf. The full agenda packet on each item is hereby answered into the record. Persons representing organizations must present evidence of their authority to speak for their organization. Further details of the quasi-judicial procedures may be obtained at any time from the clerk. At this time, commissioners must disclose any ex-parte communications concerning items on the agenda. So we'll just start from the end of the dais. Commissioner Santiago, do you have any ex-parte? Thank you, Vice Mayor. Other than what we spoke about with the staff, with Jordan, but other than that, no, no. Thank you. Commissioner Howington? The list previously, and then I spoke with the attorneys about this. The City of Deltona attorneys. Commissioner Vasquez. I answered an email from Ms. Booker. I responded that at the moment I had no further questions, but that I will reach out to her if something came up, and at the moment nothing did. Commissioner Caldwell. Other than disclosed at the first reading. Commissioner Novick. Just staff and legal counsel. Thank you, sir, and I don't have any new ex-parte since the first reading. Thank you so much, Vice Mayor. At this time, I will swear in any person who wishes to testify on any quasi-judicial item tonight. Please stand and raise your right hand. Do you hereby swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, so help you God. You may be seated. With that, I will read the ordinance title, and then I'll turn this over to Jordan. This is ordinance number 32-2025, an ordinance of the City of Deltona, Florida, amending the official zoning map to rezone approximately 7.93 acres of land located at 930 Howland Boulevard from retail commercial C1 to mixed-use planned development MPUD, providing for recording, conflicts, severability, and an effective date. This is second and final reading. Mr. Smith. Nope. There we go. Good evening, Vice Mayor, fellow City Commissioners. The City Commission approved ordinance number 32-2025 on first reading with a vote of 5-2. The applicant agreed to prohibit all residential uses, including single-family, multifamily, and all other dwelling types, and the applicant and staff will investigate cross-access option during the site plan and engineering review process. There are no additional changes from first reading. Available for any questions. Do we have any questions for staff? Commissioner Caldwell? Have we looked into possible access off of the road that goes into Fernando Park? Have we looked into possible access? Possible access to that property? That will be looked at during site plan and engineering. All right. Thank you. Any other commission questions? All right. At this time, do we have a presentation from the applicant? I'm here simply to answer any questions. We provided a presentation at the last hearing, and we do have the engineers here in case anybody does have any questions. Okay. We've got Commissioner Howington. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I just wanted to say thank you. I know that one of my concerns at the first hearing was that I wanted to know if you would agree to omitting the residential piece, and you have. It appears to be on page nine for prohibited uses for residential units, and I appreciate that. That was the reason for my no vote the last time, and now that I see it here in writing, I do appreciate that, so thank you very much. Any other commission comments? All right. Hearing none, do we have any public comments? Okay. And at this point, I'll ask for a motion. We've got Commissioner Novick. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I move to approve ordinance number 32-2025 at second and final reading. We've got a motion from Commissioner Novick, a second from Commissioner Vila-Vasquez, and then can we get a roll call vote, clerk? Commissioner Vila-Vasquez? They all pop up at the same time. Yes. Yes. Commissioner Caldwell? Commissioner Howington? Yes. Commissioner Novick? Yes. Commissioner Santiago? Vice Mayor Harriot? Yes. 6-0. Motion passes unanimously. We'll move to item 8B. This is a public hearing item, ordinance number 33-2025, an amendment to chapter 82, communication antennas and towers at second and final reading as well. Thank you very much, Vice Mayor. This is ordinance number 33-2025, an ordinance of the City of Deltona, Florida, amending chapter 82, communication antennas and towers of the Land Development Code to align with previously approved updates to regulation contained within chapter 110, zoning, providing for conflicts, codification, severability, and an effective date. And as you indicated, Vice Mayor, this is second and final reading. Do we need to do a roll call vote on this one? Okay. Do we have a motion? Commissioner Santiago? Thank you, Vice Mayor. Yes. I move to approve ordinance number 33-2025 at second and final reading. Commissioner Novick? Second. So we have a motion by Commissioner Santiago, a second from Commissioner Novick. Can we do a verbal vote on this one? Public comment. Oh, public comment. Thank you, guys. No public comment. Okay. Do we need to do a roll call? Madam Clerk? Commissioner Vila-Vasquez? I'm trying. Yes. Commissioner Caldwell? Yes. Commissioner Howington? Yes. Commissioner Novick? Yes. Commissioner Santiago? Yes. Vice Mayor Harriet? Yes. 6-0. Motion passes unanimously. At this time, we'll hear item C, public hearing ordinance 30-2025, amendment to chapter 74, administration at second and final reading. Thank you so much, Vice Mayor. This is ordinance number 30-2025, an ordinance of the City of Deltona, Florida, amending section 70-30, definitions of chapter 70, general provisions and chapter 74, administration of the Land Development Code of the City of Deltona, Florida, to include procedures that encourage the development and redevelopment of urban infill properties, providing for conflicts, codification, severability, and an effective date. And as you indicated, Vice Mayor, this is second and final reading. Okay. At this time, can I get a motion? Commissioner Novick? I move to approve ordinance 30-2025 at second and final reading. And Commissioner Santiago? Second. All right. We've got a motion and a second. Do we have any public comment? All right. Can we do another roll call vote? Commissioner Vila-Vasquez? Yes. Commissioner Caldwell? Commissioner Howington? No. Commissioner Novick? Commissioner Santiago? Vice Mayor Harriet? Yes. Motion passes 5-1. All right. Now we're on to section 9 action items. We'll hear item A, request for consideration appointments to the ordinance review committee. And then for this item, if we could, we will just go in order of districts, starting with district 2. Commissioner Santiago? Commissioner Santiago? Thank you. Yes. I move to confirm the appointment of Ronald Scott Kaufman for the ordinance review committee with a term to expire November 30th, 2026. Do we have a second? We have a second from Commissioner Novick. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion carries. District 3, Commissioner, would you like to make a motion? Yes. Thank you. I move to confirm the appointment of Randy Knighton? Okay. We have a motion. Do we have a second? Commissioner Howington? I'll second. We have a motion and a second. And I have a question after that. And we have a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, we'll go. Commissioner Vasquez, do you have a question? Yes. It doesn't have to be somebody in your district, correct? Correct. All right. Thank you. It's on your, if you open up. It should be 1114. Commissioner Caldwell. Or me. Sorry. Commissioner Howington. Yeah. I move to confirm Matthew Borgans to the ordinance review committee with a term to expire November 30th, 2026. Do we have a second? Second from Commissioner Caldwell. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion. It won't. That's the, it chases. All right. Commissioner Caldwell. I would like to nominate Ronald Scott Kaufman. He's already been, I missed that. I'm sorry. He was Commissioner Santiago's appointment. And I would like to nominate Timothy Blodgett. Do we have a second? Second. Okay. We have a motion from Commissioner Caldwell. Second from Commissioner Howington. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Opposed. Commissioner Novick. I'd like to nominate Kathy Bryant. Do we have a second? All right. We've got a motion and a second. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion carries. I'd like to make a motion to appoint Summer Sukup to the ordinance review committee. Commissioner Vasquez? No. Commissioner Howington. Thank you. I'm going to do the last one if I can. Okay. Um, so we've got all in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion carries unanimously. Can we get the clerk to read the mayor's choices? Is that allowed? Doesn't he have to be a president to do that? That would be a legal question. Legal? So if we could, I don't, I don't want to vote by proxy, but if we could just hear the clerk share his choices and then we hear a motion from the commissioners. I'd like to hear from legal first if it's, if you don't mind. We can share his names. Although we could just at the next meeting, let him vote someone else on, let him make a motion at the next meeting to vote who he wants. That way it's the cleanest move, but we could share his names if you'd like. So you can hear his names, but we could just wait till the next meeting and he can add his person then. Okay. Do we need to get consensus to do that? No, that's fine. All right. Then we'll wait until the next, the next agenda. Put the seventh selection on it, please. And then the last item for this agenda is 9B, the selection of vice mayor and Caldwell. Are you on the board for this item or the next one? This one? Commissioner Caldwell. I would like to nominate Maritza Avila-Vasquez. All right. Commissioner Novick. I want to second that. All right. We've got a motion and a second. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion carries six to zero. All right. Easy enough. Then we'll, at this time, we'll go to city attorney for comments. Thank you so much, vice mayor. I'll be brief. I know that it's November, but I know the holidays are upon us and January is right around the corner. So, you know, as I talked about at the last meeting, this is a very critical legislative session in Tallahassee. And, you know, I'm here to help you all with as much as I can information-wise. And I want to encourage you, as we encourage all local governments in Florida, please get involved with Tallahassee. Please engage with your local legislators. And please go to Tallahassee when the occasion allows. I also would urge the public to do the same thing. Please engage with your elected representatives that go to Tallahassee for session. I do want to flag two events that are coming up for you in January and put these dates on your radar. And I would encourage you all to attend. So, the Florida League of Cities has 2026 legislative action days that are scheduled for January 26th through 28th in Tallahassee. This is when they bring the city officials, you all and other city officials as well to the state capitol to meet with legislators. These tend to be, in my experience and my opinion, some of the most productive days one can have in Tallahassee because the League of Cities does a very good job of obviously coordinating all this. And I want to tell you about a companion event, the Florida League of Mayors, which also does an incredible job with advocacy. They are holding their event in Tallahassee alongside the Florida League of Cities legislative action days. So, their dates are the 26th and 28th. They do require separate registration for the Florida League of Mayor events. And just so you know, that's the mayor and obviously the vice mayor is eligible for that as well. But I would encourage you to register, to attend, and to get involved because this session is critical. We have obviously the property tax issue and then the, as we talked about before, the sovereign immunity and the goal that the state currently has, or at least some of them have, to raise the cap, which would be very impactful and expose and increase liability and exposure for cities. So, I would just encourage you guys to attend. And again, those dates are January 26th through 28th. So, if there's a way you can block your calendars and please work with staff, we're all here to help you if you want to get registered. And if you want us to attend with you, I don't want to volunteer doc. But we're happy to go because we think this is a really critical session. Thank you. Yes. Gemma, can you send us that information, please, via email? Yes, vice mayor. Thank you. All right. City manager. Thank you. Last Wednesday evening, the Deltona Magazine celebrated and awarded businesses all throughout the city. It was an honor to be a part of the event and see the vast number of Deltona businesses in one place and the excitement of the winners. And just when you sometimes don't recognize the number of businesses we have in the city, going to an event like that was tremendous. It cut all corners of the city and a lot of great people at one place. Thank you, mayor. Commissioner. Thank you, Mr. City Manager. And at this time, we will go to commissioners. Commissioner Santiago. Thank you, vice mayor. I do have a few things and I'll try to be as quickly as possible. I agree with the city manager. Best of Deltona was Wednesday. Shout out to Perla from MyDeltona Magazine for doing an amazing job on getting all the businesses in Deltona in one room, celebrating them, and really, really a great job. We need to do that more often. Also attended the first responders, Gobble Gallup 5K. Beautiful day and amazing. I mean, there's so many runners. Runners, walkers, families. It's a great event. I also want to do a shout out to Engineer Abe Espinosa, Danny, Ron, and Bellamy for really organizing the event. It went very well and thanking everyone for supporting our first responders. Also wanted to mention that there is some, I know in the last meeting I requested that we get more involved on what's going on with transport. And I did speak to our county councilman tomorrow's meeting. He plans on bringing it up to the county council just to see, gather some information in regards to response time and the need for another transport unit. So that's going on tomorrow. And the safety crosswalk in front of Deltona High School has been completed. The striping has been finished. I just wanted to bring it up. And I think, gosh, that's all for now. Thank you very much. Have a good night. Commissioner Vasquez. Thank you, Vice Mayor. So I will echo the congratulations to all the winners and all the nominees. The event was the first event ever held in the city of Deltona acknowledging our local businesses. And I, for one, am going to congratulate every single one in my district. So bear with me. Crunch, Florida Health Source, Mr. Chef, the Deltona Veterinarian, C's Waffle was a finalist, Murphy's Bar and Liquor Store received three awards, Bagel King, Tent Spa, Bulldogs received two awards, JoJo's, a financial business, Di Latina, Hispanic Chamber, Central Florida received two awards, Vida Nails, Curls Hair Salon. And that's not including the ones that did not join the event. That's just people on Deltona Boulevard. A total of 15 mom and pops family businesses on Deltona Boulevard. So congratulations, all of you. Thank you, everyone, for being here. I want to thank the Boy Scouts to be present for us and doing the pledge allegiance with us. Thank you so much. Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner Howington. Thank you, Vice Mayor. First of all, I want to say thank you to city staff. You pulled off the turkey day. This was something that Commissioner Avila Vasquez had requested at the last meeting. And I don't know how you did it, but you did it. And congratulations. This is a pretty amazing feat in my eyes. So that was, yes. And then the sponsors, Halifax Health, Advent Health, and Family Health. Sorry, I can't read the Family Health Source. So thank you to everyone involved, staff, as well as the sponsors. This was pulled off in a very short period of time, and it's greatly appreciated. And then also, congratulations to all the businesses that participated in my Deltona magazine, and all the winners and runners-up, and everybody just for being here in general. And thank you to the Boy Scouts for hanging out through the whole meeting. Everyone have a great week. Thank you, Commissioner Howington. Commissioner Caldwell. Yes, I'm hoping we can have a discussion about the ordinance that was repealed at the last meeting, the commercial parking. Whether avertedly or inadvertently, you repeal the entire commercial parking, which includes semi-trucks. We're unable to enforce them parking in their yards and stuff at this point. Is there any way we can amend this, or would you be willing to? Absolutely. My intent was more focused on amending the changes made to the ordinance and not nullifying any and all ordinance completely. I've had no less than five phone calls about semi-trucks and yards, including there's one right at LCAM right now, just past the, I said there's one on LCAM currently, just past the memorial right here. What, do you have a suggestion proposal? I don't. If I may, before you answer, Commissioner, Vice Mayor, two sections have been suspended. 66-16, which is parking on right-of-ways, and 66-18. So, the enforcement has been suspended. That's restrictions on trucks and other vehicles. We're happy to take direction, or if you'd like, we can put it on the meeting. The next agenda item as a discussion item, I'll let Doc. Yeah, I know. I spoke to Commissioner Caldwell about that earlier today. I would suggest, if possible, for the commission, if Commissioner Caldwell can meet with the attorneys and myself and bring back something at the next commission meeting, a little more defined of what we had hoped. I think, as any change of a law, some things happen on the side that weren't intended, so maybe to correct it, clean it up a little bit. Commissioner? We've got Commissioner Novick. Go ahead. I'll let you finish first. Well, are you, would Commissioner Novick, are you, is that for your commission comments or for this item? No, I'm just going to speak to this item just briefly. Again, when we're talking about picking one or two pieces apart of an ordinance, that's when it becomes problematic. We need to engage the traffic engineer. We need to do traffic studies. We need to look at the entire ordinance at one part because exactly what has happened is we made a decision about two small pieces and it has a rippling effect out, so we need to address the whole ordinance at one time, have the appropriate staff come up with recommendations, and then bring all of that to a workshop where we can address the commissioner's concerns and the public's concerns and try and fix the entire ordinance at one time before we do the start and stop stuff because that gets very confusing to staff and gets very confusing to the residents. Yeah. Commissioner Caldwell? In the meantime, I think we need to address the semi-trucks and the larger commercial vehicles. Could we, city attorneys, could we go back to the original, the original ordinance prior to our most recent updates? So, the concept would be for 6618 restrictions on trucks and other vehicles, that's the section or both sections, Mr. Caldwell? Both sections, actually. So, it would be for those two sections, we would suspend enforcement of all new language, but the pre-previously existing language would prevail. And then the, so the motion would be motion to suspend enforcement of revisions made to 66-16 and 66-18 to go back to the previous language pending workshop and traffic engineer. And I'd like to see that with the date certain so that we can get the ball rolling and not have all the back and forth. I understand, Commissioner Caldwell, to your point, I mean, I don't think any of us want, you know, dump trucks and semi-trucks parking in our residential community, but to Commissioner Novick's point, I don't want to have this continuous back and forth create a little bit more confusion. Yeah, I mean, I will say it's not ideal to change or attempt to change laws on the fly. I mean, this ordinance was, was, it took months to draft. We worked closely with Commissioner Caldwell, and I understand that parts of it were suspended, but to be clear, Commissioner Caldwell, this is the ordinance as you envisioned it, right, in its original iteration. I think there have been some unintended consequences, right, and your colleagues have been responsive to that, but I, I don't, it is not ideal to, to pick and choose. I mean, we, you, you could continue to suspend it pending workshop and traffic engineer, or you could go back to enforcement as, as it has been amended because, you know, it was passed over two readings. So right now we have two sections suspended, which is fine. I don't, I would strongly recommend you either keep them suspended or put them back in and enforce them. I think having a traffic engineer come in and doing a workshop is a great idea, and they might be able to make some recommendations to make improvements. But I, I, this middle ground is going to be confusing for us, confusing for the public, confusing for staff. Um, it's, it's, um, it is greatly preferred for you to either suspend or enforce these two sections, 66-16 or 66-16. I'm happy to answer the other questions, but just so you know. Commissioner Novick, do you have a, yeah, just my, my problem is, is a lot of these, I, I totally understand where you're coming from, but my problem is we have a lot of these big trucks, and we're not offering them no alternative of where they can park their livelihood. So we're going to have just as many folks coming in here complaining that we're depriving them of their livelihood as we do about people complaining about the trucks being on the swale. So we, we need to come up with a solution before we change something again and create another unforeseen problem. That, that's all I'm saying. I'm not, this was based on changing of the ordinance was based on several complaints from the community to start out with is why we started looking into it. So, you know, I beg to differ with you on that, but so the option here is to go to workshop or to go back to the original ordinance. So, so the ordinance is in place. We're, we've suspended enforcement of 66-16 and 66-18, which I believe you're discussing now, restrictions on trucks and other vehicles. I would recommend you either remain, they remain suspended pending workshop traffic engineer and analysis from a traffic engineer, or you reinstate them and you enforce them. Um, and you go back to enforcement pending workshop and traffic engineer. We understand you want changes, but again, these changes need to occur. I mean, sir, I think Commissioner Novick's idea of a traffic engineer is point well taken. None of us have the skill set on staff or, or the attorneys to, um, make recommendations that a traffic engineer could make. So I think that's a point well taken, whichever way you decide to go. So they're currently suspended, enforcement suspended for these two sections. I would recommend you either keep it as it is or reinstate enforcement of one or both sections. And certainly I think the manager and, and I hear you that you want us to work to get a traffic engineer, have them make some recommendations and set up a workshop to discuss revisions. So if I could, Commissioner Caldwell, could we, uh, instead of going back and forth with, um, revisions and what's going to be enforced, could we just request or direct the city of manager to bring, uh, work with us and bring something back within the next 90 days to replace this? I'll accept that. Yes. So thank you. Uh, and then Commissioner Novick. Thank you, sir. Um, we, we have to get this transport thing on our radar. Um, this is, this is critical. Um, getting people to define, to define definitive care to an appropriate facility is imperative. Halifax hospital, um, has just as an example has, uh, you know, they're exploding. They're, they're, they're adding, uh, more emergency room beds. They're adding more inpatient, uh, beds. They've just been made a stroke alert, uh, location. It does us absolutely no good to have those resources. If we cannot get the patient in a timely expedient fashion from the scene to the facility. And right now we've added one additional transport unit to our city fire department in the last 14 years. And as chief Swisher showed you all of us at a meeting a couple weeks ago, we've had a 44% increase in call volume and we've added one unit. It's unacceptable. We're waiting extended periods of times for our loved ones to get from the crisis. They they're receiving intervention from our folks, but they're not getting to define care at a hospital in a timely fashion. We as a commission have decided we want an increased level of service for the citizens of Deltona. We went to the county, the county gave us the COPCN, the certificate of public necessity to go ahead and start doing that transport. It's not a means of making money. It does not pay a hundred percent for itself. It doesn't in any system. It doesn't in, it doesn't do it in the county system. It doesn't do it in any fire department or ambulance transport system around. It's not the idea of making money. It's the idea of getting people care. And as we continue to have the insurance, medical insurance stuff up in the air as to what's happening, 2.9 million children in the state of Florida, children, have lost their Medicaid. That means 2.9 million children are not getting preventative care. And they will be using the emergency rooms as their primary care physicians if they're not able to secure health care insurance by some other means. What does that mean to us? It means a backlog of being able to get patients delivered and dropped off in the emergency room. Our ambulances, both ours and the counties, sit on the ramp at the hospital because there's not a bed to receive the patient. That means that they cannot turn that ambulance around and get it back out into the field. In Deltona, that means a fire truck now with paramedics is sitting with a patient waiting on a transport unit to get there. So now we have two units that are committed and unavailable. So we're asking the county, we have put forth the $400,000 to buy a new ambulance. We're hiring six paramedic onlys we're advertising for right now. We're willing to house them, equip them, train them, provide them at no cost to the county. And the county gets 7.5% of every patient care report that is submitted and collected. They get 7.5% for doing nothing but pushing a button and mailing a bill. We're providing everything else. And the county's telling us, no, we can't have that for our citizens. That's wrong. That is wrong. And if we're going to continue to grow, and mind you, these ambulances don't just stay in Deltona. There is a new CAD system. And by the agreement that we had to sign with the county to get the COPCN, it says we will be part of the overall system. They will go anywhere, closest unit response. So if we transport a patient from here to Halifax and Daytona, because it's the appropriate facility being a level two trauma center, and that ambulance happens to be the closest one coming back, coming through Lake Helen from Daytona, guess what? That Deltona unit's going to pick up a patient in Lake Helen. So we're enhancing the county system at zero cost to them. How is that a hard decision to make? I don't get it. So please, Mr. Reckinwall, Volusia County Council, hear us loud, hear us clear. Give us our fourth ambulance transport in the city of Deltona. Thank you. Commissioner Vasquez? Yes, thank you. Just a comment on what Commissioner Novak said. At the Celtic Festival, we had an incident with one of our own. And I can tell you, we had to wait a little bit longer than necessary. A lot longer than necessary. A lot longer than necessary to have an ambulance, you know, come for someone who really, really needed attention. And even then, we got a Volusia County ambulance, because all ours were out assisting other areas. So this goes to show that even with what they think we have, it's not even enough. And we experienced it that day at the Celtic Festival. Everything was good. Everything is fine. But even I saw one of the union guys, and I'm like, where's our ambulance? He said, they're all out. They're all out. And this one had to come from, I don't know where, into the city. So just an FYI, I think normally, Chris, I don't know if you remember, when we have a festival that big, don't we have an ambulance on site? We normally have medical personnel on standby. I don't know what the current policy is for the fire department if they actually put a transport unit there. But they have paramedics that are there, the bike unit, or the MERV are there to provide immediate assistance. But again, the paramedics that are on scene can only do so much before they can get the patient to definitive care at the appropriate facility. Yeah. All right. Thank you, commissioners. Real quick, if I want to go to Commissioner Santiago, Commissioner Howington, but if you can just keep it, keep it short. Commissioner Santiago. I'll try to keep it as short and quick as possible in regards to the transfer. Transport. On that medical call at the festival, I do want to state that we did have a unit there. At any time we have a festival, there's always a unit that will respond to any emergency, number one. Number two, yes, the call did take a little bit longer, but Medic 61 was on another call, okay? EMS was dispatched. We have an agreement that the closest unit will respond to that emergency. The closest available unit to respond to that emergency was on High Banks in DeBerry, and it was Volusia County. So they did respond. Medic 61 finished with their, they finished with the call. However, they did not put themselves back on available, meaning, hey, I'm available to go. So that's why Volusia County EMS took a while. Here's the thing about transport. You know, the Sheriff's Department actually runs dispatch. We have an agreement with the county that states closest unit response. So if we're the closest unit to respond to any emergency, we're going to go because that's the agreement that we have. I'm not saying that we don't need another transport unit. I think we do. I believe we do. I don't want to jump ahead and state we need one. Yes. Let's get the facts. Let's get the information as far as, okay, how long is it taking for us? How, where are we going? Where, before we make any determinations or requests. I did speak to the county councilman. He is bringing it to the county council tomorrow on getting us all together in one room where fire, county fire and city will come together in a joint meeting on how to resolve it and, and how we get that extra unit. So I just wanted to just give that information in that update and that, that's all I need. That's all I have. Thank you so much. Thank you, Commissioner for that clarification. Commissioner Howington. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I'll make it quick. So on Friday, I did speak to a county manager, Rechtenwald, and he is willing to sit down and discuss transport times. He actually pulled some information from a previous conversation I had with him. So he is open to the idea of sitting down and having those discussions. I kind of opened up, opened that up last Friday. So, you know, hopefully I can get a little bit more information. I need to get myself up to speed, but that is something that's on my radar as well. But I want to have the facts. Right. So, so I appreciate that the county council will be addressing it as well. So thank you all for working on this. Thank you, Commissioner. All good there. Okay. Last, I would just like to thank everybody for coming out to the Deltona Awards. It was a phenomenal turnout. And I know it's an event that will continue to get bigger and better every year and to continue to get more polished every year. And then also wanted to thank Troop 340, the scouts for coming out tonight. And I appreciate that. And good luck. We had a couple of winners, but definitely want to give a big shout out to the Greek Taverna for winning the categories that they did and for Chef Nick also. That's it. Tonight's meeting is adjourned.