2025 into order, if I can please have the city clerk call the roll. Commissioner Vila-Vasquez? Present. Commissioner Caldwell? Commissioner Howington? Here. Commissioner Novick? Here. Commissioner Santiago? Here. Vice Mayor Harriet? Here. Mayor Vila? Here. This time we're going to go ahead and do the pledge, and then after that I'll have Mr. Matthew Shaw with Trinity do the invocation. I invite Vice Mayor Harriet to lead us into the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Can you click on the button so I can turn on your mic? There we go. Good evening. How's everybody doing? All right. My name is Matthew Shaw from Trinity Church, and I'll do the invocation for the night. Let's bow our heads. Dear Father in heaven, gracious Father, we love you, Lord. We want to thank you for life, health, and strength, and for the many rich blessings, Lord, that you've bestowed upon our lives, Lord. Tonight, Lord, we want to pray for Deltona, all the people here, Lord. Bless their lives, bless their minds, bless their hearts. We pray for the city commission. Pray for the mayor, city manager. We pray for all the employees, Lord. Bless their minds, their hearts, their wisdom, their integrity, Lord. We want to just thank you for everything that you've done here in this city, Lord, and you continue to do to move it forward in your name, Lord. We also want to pray for all the displaced families in Jamaica as well, Lord. We know that there is a population here. If there's any of the families that were affected, Lord, we want to pray for them as well. Keep them and guide them. We thank you for everything, Lord, that you do. In your name we pray. We love you. Amen. Okay. All right. We usually go next into the recognition of the veterans, but I was told that they should be here for the next commission meeting. Okay. Yes, we got a big event coming up this weekend, so they're tied up with that. But we'll make sure that they're recognized along with the other commission that's recognizing them next. This time we're going to go over to additions and deletions. Commissioner Knobbick. Thank you, Mayor. Mayor, I'd like to add to the agenda for a discussion on the Christmas parade route. We can do this very simple majority, so all those in favor, just say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed? All right. We will add it to 9D as in David. Mr. Mayor, if I may. Go ahead, Ms. We would recommend, and I was talking to the city manager, we would recommend moving 9C, the selection of vice mayor, to next meeting, to the meeting in two weeks. The charter technically says that it should occur after, the first meeting after the general election, and the election is tomorrow. I understand we're one day early, but just in keeping with the letter of the charter, we would just recommend moving it. The item's already prepped, but that would be our recommendation. Okay. So you want it as a deletion to next commission? Deferral, sure, a deletion, but deferral to the next meeting. Date certain, next meeting. All right. All those in favor? Aye. Go ahead. Thank you. Is it permissible to do the vote tonight with an effective date of tomorrow? You could vote tonight and ratify it, so your vote tonight could be symbolic, and then you could ratify it again at the next meeting. I would request that. We'll just leave it for the next meeting. Never mind. Yeah, I think the goal is if we're on cycle. Okay. All right. All those opposed, we're in the middle of that. All right. So, we're moving forward 9C to next commission meeting, and we are adding still 9D Christmas parade. All right. I see no other person there, so we're going to go ahead and move forward to Ms. Barker for presentation, awards, and reports. Or, sorry, deletion community events. Okay. We have a lot going on this month. So, first of all, it's not advancing, guys. First off, this Saturday, this is a huge event, our Celtic Fest and Highland Games. It's, we did a smaller version earlier this year. This one's going to be bigger and better. There's going to be official Highland Games that take place. We'll have bands. We'll have the pipe and drums. We'll have dancers. It's from 10 o'clock until 5 o'clock at Dewey. And there's actually going to be an athlete there that's trying to break a world record in one of the events. And then, also on Saturday is our amphitheater concert series. And this one's a little bit different. There's going to be a car show before the concert. So, there's a car show at 5 o'clock and the concert at 7. And that's going to be a Beatles tribute band. So, you can go to the Celtic Fest and then head over to the amphitheater for the car show and the concert. And then, on the 11th, Veterans Day, there's going to be a Veterans Day ceremony at Veterans Park. That's at 10 a.m. After the ceremony, there will be a community picnic. And then, on the 15th, Saturday, is the second annual Gobble Gallop 5K. You can register now. The race starts at 8. And it starts at the center. And then, I have a few community events. So, there's a group that does tennis events at West Crile Park. So, they're doing a doubles and mixed doubles event this Friday night, 530 to 9 at West Crile. So, if you're interested in participating, you can look at the number on the screen and contact Evans to participate in that event. And then, the next couple are for veterans. So, it's not in Deltona. It's in Daytona at the Florida Department of Health. But there is a Veterans Job Fair. And there are tons of huge companies that are going to be at this event. So, it's a good event for the veterans. And then, the VFW in DeBerry is doing a Craft Fair and Family Fun Day on the 15th. Again, that's in DeBerry. Doors open at 930 for that event. And then, VEMA is doing a fishing tournament and cigar fest on the 15th as well. That's going to be in Daytona at the Halifax Harbor Marina. And the fishing starts at 6 a.m. Register ahead of time if you'd like to participate. They have huge jackpots. So, there's like a $1,000 jackpot. So, contact them if you'd like to participate. And then, the Deltona Pickleball Club is doing a pickleball tournament the weekend before Thanksgiving, the 22nd and the 23rd. So, if you'd like to participate, you can sign up now to participate in that event. And that's what we have going on this month so far. Please. Commissioner Vila-Vasquez. Thank you, Mayor. Captain, I don't know if you were told that there's a number, I don't know, about 20, 25 tickets available for the fishing for veterans, first call, first serve, free. Because you have to pay to go on the charter boat. Am I correct? Oh, for the Viva event? Yes. Okay. No, I was unaware of that. Oh, okay. So, I mean, they have to call the number there, and if they have it all gone, then they can go fishing for free. Okay. Fantastic. But you have to be a veteran. Okay. Right? All right. We're going to go ahead to consent agenda. Before I call public comment on consent agenda, does anybody need to remove it, Commissioner Howington? Can we pull 7B, please? B as in boy? Yes. Okay. Any other ones? All right. We're going to go ahead and remove 7B if we can, is there any public comment on, okay, go ahead. Tim Blodgett, please. Okay. I've got an idea, which I thought I would just sort of put a bug in your ear. Maybe you'd like to think about. Chief Chitwood has pretty much capitalized on police services throughout the entire county. We're paying them 19 million a year, what, for sheriff services and whatnot. Doesn't leave a whole lot left for anybody else. But we have something very similar that I think we should capitalize on, and that is fire services. Fire services, ambulance services, MU cab services, which is what this topic is about. And I think we should embrace it instead of rolling our eyes and saying, oh, God, we've got to take care of this again. The surrounding cities appear to want us to provide those services that are financially difficult for them to manage. So if they want to pay for us to come and get their ambulances and such, why not? Me, personally, I've had two friends die in this town because they were out in other towns providing services. And I kind of think that sucks, and their families think that sucks. So let's embrace it, and let's do it. And we get funding for it, federal funding, and we can possibly get what it is called the free grants and such. Who knows, we could reach out and have them write for the grants and split the grant money with them. And we could build a much stronger city. And maybe we wouldn't have to be sending our resources out when we get needs from other cities imposed on us. And just think of what that will do for things like kids. You want to be the one to say, oh, I'm sorry, I couldn't get your kid to the hospital because we didn't have an ambulance available. That would really suck. Anyway, Mary, you look great. Gail Barr, please. Gail Barr, Deltona. I'm just questioning on 7C on the calendar to be approved for next year. I notice there's only one meeting listed for March. Is there a reason that we don't know about? I mean, I don't know about any reason that there is no meeting for the second one in the month. I know it's close to St. Patrick's Day. I know last year St. Patrick's Day meeting was canceled. I don't know if it has anything to do with that. But St. Patrick's Day is not a federal holiday. It is not a legal holiday. Governments are open. Schools are open. Businesses are open. And I was just wondering why, there's no mention on here, why March 16th, there is no meeting for that date. Thank you. Courtney Cross-Burgos. Sure. Courtney Cross-Burgos. I had a question about the Halifax agreement, but I don't really see anything on there. Could we not hear about it before it's voted on? In case we had questions, is there going to be a presentation on it? Or are you just going to vote it through? Thank you. We have to answer public comments. All right. At this time, we'll entertain a motion for consent agenda item 7A through C-E. Vice Mayor Harriet. I'd like to make a motion to approve consent agenda 7A through E minus C. B. B is in boy. Minus B. I didn't know B got pulled. Yeah, B is in boy. Okay. Minus. Okay. Commissioner Novick. Second. There's a motion by Vice Mayor Harriet, second by Commissioner Novick. Okay. Can we please vote? Oh, sorry. Commissioner Howington, I see that you're on the board as well. Oh, sorry. Okay. All right. Can we vote? The motion passes 7A. At this time, Commissioner Howington, if you can click on your button, you're up for 7B as in boy. So, I just had some questions based on the last meeting that we just finished. This is basically just picking up the approval for the previous transport that was approved. Now, this is the one that was denied by the county. Is that correct? I'm going to let John talk about this, but just briefly, we as a city received money from the CARES Act, and this is the remainder, and this is a previously approved purchase that we've already allocated funding for. I'll let John talk about it. But this is a legally permissible way to utilize that remainder, and there are some limits on how we can utilize it. John can speak to the financing funding. My question wasn't specifically about how we can use it. I don't have a problem buying it. I'm just wanting to understand how does this work. We just heard that we were trying to buy an extra unit, and the county rejected that. So, what happens if we buy this unit, and we bring it here, and we can't use it? I guess I'm just trying to understand what happens. I know we're on a two-year-out time frame. Yes, ma'am. Good evening, Mayor, Commission. So, this transport ambulance unit is not the one from the 24, I'm sorry, 25-26 budget. This is the one that was a replacement unit approved as part of the 24-25 budget that we're actually going to be receiving here in the next 30 to 60 days. What this is, and Quentin and I will bounce off of each other, is from the COVID era, from HUD, CDBG CARES money, we have $318,000 that is remaining that we cannot use any longer because the programs have ceased between the county and the city. So, instead of sending that money back, which is sitting in our bank of $318,000 and change, it could be used for certain key items for protecting infectious diseases from spread. The type of ambulance units that we buy here in Deltona has a special cleaning part of the box, you know, where the patient care is taken that qualifies. It's been approved by our HUD field office that that unit qualifies. So, instead of sending the money back to Washington, we're going to use it for money that we already spent from the general fund to pay for $318,000 of the $450-something thousand that the actual unit costs. So, it is not the one that's on hold pending county approval for the fourth transport. This is one of the three units that we already have within the city. Okay. Thank you. That helps. That kind of clarifies what was going on because when I heard that, I was like, wait a second, how does this play together? I understand. So, that was my question, and like I said, I didn't oppose it. I just kind of wanted to understand it. So, thank you. You're welcome, ma'am. Commissioner Caldwell, and then we have Commissioner Vasquez. So, you guys can just hang out there for a little bit. Commissioner Caldwell, call on. My question has pretty much been answered. It's the same along the lines of hers. What happens to the money if we don't get approval for the other unit? But that's mute at this point because that's not for that unit. By December 1st, we'd be issuing a check back to HUD or when they reopen. Thank you. Commissioner Avila-Vasquez. Thank you. And maybe I misunderstood what you said, but you said we paid for the ambulance already in the 25-26 budget. We approved that we paid it from the general funds. So, now we put in this money to pay it again? If you already paid, where is this money going? We haven't paid for the unit. We're not paying for it until it's received. It was approved to be paid for 100% under general fund revenues. I can use the CDBG CARES money in place of paying for it with a general fund, 75% roughly of it. So, the unit was $450,000. I'm going to pay $318,000 of it from CDBG CARES money. Is that the same unit that the former chief ordered a year in advance to take advantage of the discount? It was authorized, no, ma'am, it was authorized on October 21st of 2024, and we had not prepaid all of it. No, ma'am. So, that's a separate one? Separate one. So, that's two? Yes, ma'am. We just, we were going to prepay for two of them, and it was more advantageous for us to invest the money versus prepaying it. We had our financial advisor with Chandler confirm that, so instead of paying for that ambulance and the engine up front, we just invested the money. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner Novick. Thank you, Mayor. The only thing with these ambulances is the county controls the COPCN, the Certificate of Public Necessity, that says we can transport people in. We can buy as many of those units, put them in service as rescues, which will respond to a medical emergency, just not transport the patient in that unit. So, the only thing the county controls is whether we can transport in that unit or not transport in it. All right, we're going to go ahead and we're going to go ahead and vote. So, is there a motion? Well, I give the opportunity to Commissioner Howington if you want to make the motion since you pulled it. Can you go ahead? I move to approve resolution number 2025-161 authorizing the reallocation of the remaining CDBG CARES funds towards acquisition of a transport unit. Commissioner Novick. Second. There's a motion by Commissioner Howington, a second by Commissioner Novick. If we can, please vote. Motion passes 7-0. This time we're going to go ahead and move to eight ordinances and public hearings. If I can please have the city attorney read the public hearing. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is ordinance number 33-2025, an ordinance of the city of Deltona, Florida, amending Chapter 82, communication antennas. Eight A's and alpha. And also if PO can put the right presentation. I'm so sorry, guys. This is ordinance number 36-2025. This is a first reading. This is an ordinance of the city of Deltona, Florida, amending Section 110-814, additional regulations for certain permitted principal uses and structures of Chapter 110, zoning, and Chapter 74, administration of the land development code, updating procedures and regulations related to certified recovery residences in compliance with Florida statutes. Providing for conflicts, codification, severability, and an effective date. Thank you. At this time, I'll entertain a motion before going to presentation and then public comment. Commissioner Novick. I'll make a motion that we table this item. This is an extremely complicated item, and I really believe that we should workshop this before we vote on it. There are staff training issues I'm concerned about. There are legal questions that have to do with House Bill 180, whether we could impose something such as a distance requirement for one of these substance abuse houses between the house and, say, a school. And I'd like to see or discuss some kind of analysis on what property value, what effect it will have on property value. So I would make a motion that we table this item until such time as we can schedule a workshop to become better educated on it before we vote on it and implement it so that when we do implement it, we implement it correctly. Can we get a time frame? That way staff knows how fast we need to get a workshop. 30 days. I'm requesting that we set it for a workshop. That will be the manager. He'll have to pull that together and schedule it for a workshop. I did check with legal. We have a deadline in January for this, but they said that's not a critical stop. As long as we're moving forward, we would be okay with that. Okay. There's a motion right now on the floor. Is Commissioner Avila Vasquez? I want to second it, but I also want to make a comment. All right. There's a motion by Commissioner Novick, second by Commissioner Avila Vasquez. Go ahead. Thank you, Mayor. My comments were also going to be down the line as Commissioner Novick. You know, this type of businesses have been flying up at this die so many times for so many years, and we have to consider where is it going to be done, where is it going to take place, and, you know, it's just a lot to be, to discuss because we had, I was not a commissioner, but I was sitting over there when the project came to build Stuart Marshman where the dog park is today. So we need to take that all into consideration. We had this whole neighborhood sitting in here. So let's, I'm glad that we're going to table it. All right. There's two other commissioners here. Would you guys be okay if we did the vote, or did you guys really need to? I have a second. Okay. So let's go ahead. And this. Okay. No. All right. Let's go ahead and vote. So the motion to table passes six to one. Mr. Mayor, we'll work with staff. We already talked a little bit about the timeline. The statute requires that the ordinance is placed by January 1st, 2026, but we, you know, we still have two months and some meetings before then, so we can certainly get a workshop on the books. Perfect. And get a first reading. All right. We're going to go ahead and move to eight B as in boy. If I can please have the city manager, sorry, the city attorney read the ordinance, and this time that is for the towers. This is the one I was so excited about. So thank you. This is first reading of ordinance number 33-2025. This is an ordinance of the city of Deltona, Florida, amending chapter 82, communication antennas and towers of the land development code to align with previously approved updates to regulations contained within chapter 110 zoning, providing for conflicts, codification, severability, and an effective date. Second reading is scheduled for our next meeting in November on the 17th. All right. At this time, I'll entertain a motion and a second to move forward for presentation and then public comment. Commissioner Novick. I move to approve ordinance number 36-2025 at first reading. Commissioner Santiago. Second. 33. I'm sorry. 30. All right. So we have a motion by Commissioner Novick and a second by Commissioner Santiago. Mr. Smith, if you can please continue with your presentation. Good evening, Mayor, Commission. So Chapter 82 was adopted in 1997, and it has not been significantly updated since. The update aligns our tower regulations with the current zoning code and modernizes our technology standards. This helps eliminate duplication and outdated reference from the old Deltona Lake plans. The purpose of the update is to streamline the process and make the code easier to use. It ensures that all tower locations defer to Chapter 110 of the zoning code, and it adds design standards for osprey nesting platforms. The key changes, Table 110-10, now determines where communication towers are allowed. The tower map is no longer used. Everything is based on zoning districts. All old references to the Deltona Lake plans are replaced with references to the city's land development code, and that's a new section of osprey nesting platform design, and it has a cleaner and clearer guideline for applicants. And it updates the environmental assessment section, which was recommended by the Planning and Zoning Board. The Planning and Zoning Board met on September 17th. They voted 7-0 to recommend approval. They also asked that the wildlife protection and tower location guidance be incorporated, and so it's recommended staff added language to Section 82-90. It is advisory, not mandatory, unless required by state or federal law. The ordinance is consistent with the future land use element. It improves internal consistency and removes conflict with the zoning code, and it supports the city's environmental and community character goals. Staff recommends approval at first reading. This is primarily cleanup, and the update provides better clarity for staff, applicants, and residents. First reading is tonight. Second reading is November 17th. I'm available for any questions. Is there any public comment? No. Any questions from the dais? None, if we can please vote. Oh, Commissioner Caldwell, go ahead. No, no, you're good. Go ahead. Did you say Section 82-90 was removed or suggested to be removed? No. 82-90 was just updated with the recommendations from the Planning and Zoning Board to put advisory recommendations for U.S. Fish and Wildlife Standards. All right. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. If we can motion passes, 6 to 1. This time we're going to go ahead and enter into action items, starting with nine A's in alpha. If I can please have the city attorney read the resolution. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is Resolution No. 2025-157, a resolution of the City of Deltona, Florida, authorizing the city manager or designee to award multiple purchase orders for the City Hall renovation project for enhancement of customer service, providing for implementation and an effective date. All right. This time I'll entertain a motion before presentation and public comment. Vice Mayor Harriet. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to make a motion to approve Resolution No. 2025-157, approving the customer service remodel at City Hall. Commissioner Santiago. Second. There's a motion by Vice Mayor Harriet, second by Commissioner Santiago. Please, is there any presentations? Mr. McKinney. Mayor, Commission, good evening again. So this item goes along with what was approved as part of the mid-year budget, 24-25 budget, and then as well as the additional funds that was put aside as part of the 25-26 budget for improving the customer service aspect as we walk into City Hall and deal with the cashier, utility billing, planning and zoning, and building. So I have a couple of slides that I'll go through on this. We have three vendors that we're looking to work with, CDS that would be providing basically the walls and cubicles, AG Pfeiffer that would be doing some of the demolition and brick-and-mortar items that have to be done, and then painting. On the painting, we're actually looking to, and I'll go through this on the presentation. One of the first things that we're looking to do is that when you come into the front lobby right there, there's a lot of wasted space that we have one person that sits up there. We have the ability, as you'll see, to create a usable space of three individuals. That could be when you walk in. You don't have to walk all the way to the back. You can go in. That would be just your cashier. You have an invoice, whether it's utility billing, you're trying to pay something for the center, a code find, whatnot. You don't have to walk all the way to the back. It would utilize this open space right here. This is how it would be. So this here would be two stations, and we actually have a station on the back wall here as well. So this area would be able to hold three people with room to spare. So this is kind of twofold. So this is the existing area that you walk in, and it just becomes a complete bottleneck. We have the Q-list system right here that people go in to sign up to, you know, speak with a representative of the center. I'm sorry, this area. And then right on this side of this two bollards is what we've established as the cashier area. It's just very tight. And if you leave here this evening and you walk up to the roll-up gate over there, you can just see just how, you know, cram-tight it is in that area. We did look at how we could go in and redo all of this wall. The way that we were explained for the people that were here and the actual company that built this is this is a lot of steel and reinforced bullet-resistant drywall, glass, et cetera. So very heavy-duty, you need to basically, they said, come in with a torch and a little mini excavator just to move it. So by moving the cashier out to the lobby and this setup right here, it would alleviate a lot of the congestion in this area because 95% of everything that would need to be done would be handled right here in the main lobby. So this is just a schematic of the first floor. Everything that you see in this area right here would be completely redone. So 100% of everything that you see. This area right in here would be part of the new doorway. So whereas you see the glass that comes all the way around here, it would be moved down in this area so that everyone from the building department would be able to come in from a new door right here. Part of this wall system and everything else is due to security. Seeing that we have utility billing here and it has to be kept confidential for, you know, we maintain social security numbers, birth dates, everything. We just can't have all the different aspects of the city planning and zoning, building, knowing what we're doing with our utility customers. You know, we do have to maintain a relative, you know, you want to entrust me with your data. You don't want someone to be able to overhear it. So this door here would be floor to ceiling. We did actually put in, in case of emergency, you can see right here, there would be a door. And it would be locked from the utility billing side. Also in all of this, it is all new furniture for every place that you see furniture. It involves all new furniture for all of these areas. All of the furniture that is in here is 20 plus years old. It's, it's as part of the original building. I have pictures to show you just the condition of it. I know that we talked about in, and previously, well, what about all the other furniture that was previously purchased? All that furniture that was purchased was all down the hallway here. We are not replacing any furniture that is under 20 years old. This is the setup that we're maximizing space. Whereas currently right now, this area right here has a total of five people in three cubicles. So we have people on top of every, each other where we've actually designed it. You know, again, not John, a company that actually designs, you know, customer service call center areas. And that's what these setups are for. I mean, this maintains the same number of cubicle spots on the building and permitting side. This is the format of it. You don't see here the existing wall bulletproof glass. This would be built right up to it. This is just representative of the fact that in everything that we're doing, we have all the offices. We were buying six extra chairs, so we're not going to have a bunch of chairs just sitting around. This is from the building side. So, again, making sure, you know, they're sliding doors so that if they're working on something, the employees can shut the doors so that they can have a little bit of privacy to work on their workload. And, again, representing an extra emergency door, if need be, to get from one side of the building to the next. The other thing this is doing is we have utilized file cabinets to build walls. Part of this is kind of goes along to show you that we have no privacy between the utility billing, planning, and zoning, and building side. That wall would come right off of this wall that you see right here. So that wall that juts out is connecting to that. The other thing that we're doing is the fact that this is part of the brick and mortar for AG Pfeiffer. The wall would be built right here so that if you're on the planning side, then the planning people cannot walk into the utility billing side because, again, this is where a lot of the confidential information is stored for long term. And we just can't have, this would even be restricted that, you know, only certain individuals from the custodial staff and everything would be able to get in there as well. Again, making sure that we are protecting everyone's sensitive information. Everything's disjointed. We have built on top of, built on top of. So you can see this is from the planning side. This is from the utility billing side. That this right here is that. So when they needed to expand room, they just disconnected it and moved it off. What you don't see behind the boxes are all the power lines and everything else that are running right along that back wall. So it is from a fire and life safety issue as well, getting this cleaned up. We have people working on folding tables, you know, so we needed an extra space. So we found an old spare table and put it in there. And, again, that's just, you know, that wall doesn't connect to that wall. So it's just, again, it's, you know, if you walk up and touch it, it just moves. So it's just been moved over the years. So, again, with this, I did make sure that for all the out, the way it was laid out, it was done in coordination with the utility billing staff, 100% of utility billing staff, all of the building staff, and all of the planning staff to make sure that we are incorporating not just the day's anticipated needs, but tomorrow's. And then if you walk around the building throughout the first floor from right outside this door here to the lobby to the rear entryway, you know, there's holes, you know, we've literally put employee, you know, information panels and attached it in places that there's big holes in the wall. Just, you know, because it's just, there's not been any upkeep within here as things come down. The same with here. It's just, you know, if you look clearly in all the walls, there's just holes everywhere where things have been put over the years. And then tape that's been put on the walls, we've put out messages to our employees, don't put tape on the wall because if it sits there and you take it off, it just rips the paint right off the wall. And this here is throughout everywhere. So we know that, you know, with the money that's set aside, we're going to paint it and fix the walls and paint as much as we can from outside this door all the way to the extreme back of the building. And again, it's just, it's throughout. And then to answer the question, a very good question that came up regarding the schedule, the reason for the second meeting in March being, you know, suspended is the fact that from the day we get approval for this, assuming a big assumption that we get approval for this, it takes 12 weeks from the time that we issue the purchase order for the materials to be delivered because it has to be built. So this is just giving that little extra room that after the first meeting of March, we would then come into this room right here and everyone that is working in those areas over there would be put in here in temporary workspace to assist our citizens and our customers for that time period so that the contractor can do the rip out over there of the old furniture, build the new walls, move the doors, move the doors, everything that's required, we anticipate it's going to take us four weeks. So we put together a calendar of events for what everyone has to do. I can tell you it's nothing new. I've been a part of a remodel of a commission meeting and I know what it takes to get everything done in a timeframe between one meeting to the next. So that's why the second meeting in March was not on your calendar is anticipating this work. That's all I have, Mayor. Thank you. Is there any public comment? Okay. Commissioner Novick, you're up first. Thank you, Mayor. Why are they not working on the weekends? Commissioner, we wind up paying a nice premium to have the trades work on the weekends. So we did anticipate if, you know, when we originally thought we would have this done in the January timeframe, we were having them work in the days that we were closed. Because we observe it as a holiday, but, you know, the trades don't. So, but in this case in March, we were going to see a significant increase in the cost. Is there any penalty? Is there a penalty schedule if they don't finish by a certain date? That is something that I'm going to be, actually, good point. That's something that I'm going to be discussing with Zach and Gemma because of that very issue that we did discuss with the contractors. There was no leeway for it not to be completed in the time that they bid on us. Okay. And I don't see anything in here about a fire alarm or fire sprinkler contractor. Not required. We actually had the building official and fire marshal come in here and look at it where the sprinklers are. So it's designed around the system that's existing. We have to add one of the emergency detectors. That's all we have to add in the entire project. Okay. And last question is, is there a performance bond on this? Not required because it's under the threshold for the single, because we're using three contractors. It doesn't meet that threshold. And we don't, legal, we don't think that that would be prudent to require that anyway? These are pretty low amounts. So typically for amounts this low, it's not been our past practice. That's not to say we couldn't do it. It would change the cost, likely. So the only reason I bring that up is when we built Station 65, which I realized was a large multimillion dollar project, we ran into a problem because of Chinese drywall, which caused that contractor to bail on us. And we had to start the process halfway through all over again. For CDS, sir, I wouldn't be required to pay one penny until after the work's completed. So there's no prepayment on any of that. And for AG Pfeiffer, their quote is under $100,000. So for me, just based on prior experience, you're looking at an additional $5,000 to $6,000. Because it's three separate contracts. Yes, sir. And I could actually, we could probably even ask them for a letter of credit from the bank. It's small enough and then that wouldn't require, I would have to go back to them first off. But for a letter of credit for AG Pfeiffer, I don't think would be an issue. Okay. They do still have to meet our insurance requirements as a vendor. Okay. I just wanted that clarified. Thank you. Yes, sir. Anybody else on the commission? All right. Can we please vote? Mr. Mayor, I apologize. I do have a Matthew Borgans. I misunderstood his request. He would like to speak on this subject. Go ahead. Matthew Borgans, please. Good evening again. I think this is really needed because the way it looks there. What I wanted to ask was, is there any type of risk assessment or security audit that's going to be done to make sure that, you know, this is up for par for active shooters or anything else that nobody can get trapped? I know we do it for fire safety, but the ingress and egress, the locking systems, make sure that's all in there. I didn't hear that in any of the proposal or see it online, and that's going to be a little extra cost. I know we have cameras coming up, but if we're going to redo all that, we want to make sure it's safe for staff. Especially if we're going to redo the entryway, I think that's something that we need to look at. Like I said, a security audit. And then if we're doing data, the data center stuff, look at that for the IT audit. That's all I have. But thanks. Thank you. Can we please go ahead and vote? Motion passes six to one. This time we're going to go into nine. Sorry. Nine B as in boy. If I can please have the city attorney, oh, no, this is an appointment, so we're going to go into consideration of appointment or reappointment of seven members to the William S. Harvey Deltona Scholarship Advisory Board. And we have three members, is that correct, that would like to stay on? All right. So we have three members that would like to stay on, and then each commissioner on the dais will elect one additional. So if I can get a motion for the three that would like to stay and a second. Vice Mayor Harriet. I'll make a motion to approve the three members, to reappoint the three members that would like to stay on the committee. There's a motion by Vice Mayor Harriet. Is there a second, Commissioner Novick? Which three? It is Walter Dawson, Ruben Medina, and Harry Meeks are the three that would like to stay. So they're the first three in this list? Correct. Okay. Second. All right. There's a motion by Vice Mayor Harriet, second by Commissioner Novick. Is there any public comment on this? Yes. Is there a presentation? There's no presentation. No presentation. I just wanted to make sure. Okay. Tim Blodgett. Am I on? Yeah. I'm going to ask that this committee be sunsetted. The reasons being, if you take a look at the scholarships throughout Volusia County, let's take a look at Edgewood. Edgewood, they raise money. They do bake sales. They run a bazaar. They raise money. They get donations. They get sponsors. They get people who are interested in this. Deltona, nothing. They do nothing to raise money for this. It used to be financed by our recycling program. We found out that over 90% of our recycling was thrown in the trash, and they stopped the recycling program. This program should have been sunsetted after that, but nobody had the guts to say no. What else do we have in Volusia County? We've got the Rotary Club. They also do the same things that Edgewood does. The same nothing that Deltona does. And what do they get out of it? Well, everybody's been very happy with the Rotary Club. They give a scholarship to every high school. How many scholarships are we giving out? I've heard numbers of between 25 and 33. $3,000 scholarships. For what? Party times or a car? Take your choice. This scholarship has no transparency. Last year, at least, they gave the ratings of the people who received the money. This year, all I heard from this council here was that it was based on financial need. So what is it? A charity, a scholarship, or a grant? Take your choice. Sunset it. Get rid of it. It's a boondoggle. And you ought to rename it to the Friends and Family Scholarship. That's it, sir. Okay. So there is a motion on the table and a second. There's only seven applicants. Is that correct? So you need four more. Okay. All right. So if anybody wants to make any nominations for four out of the three or seven that are there, Commissioner Avila Vasquez, you're up. Thank you, Mayor. Vice Mayor and then Commissioner Santiago. So does the person we nominate have to be in our district? No. It doesn't. Oh, I'm sorry. I apologize. Yes. Let's go ahead and vote on that first. The motion passes five to two. All right. Commissioner Avila Vasquez, you were up first. Thank you. Yes. I would like to nominate. I move to confirm District 3's appointment or reappointment of Barbara Turner for a term to expire on May 31st, 2027 to the William S. Harvey Deltono Scholarship Board. There's a motion by Commissioner Avila Vasquez. Can I hear a second? Commissioner Santiago, you're up next. Did you want a second or did you want to make a nomination? All right. There's a second by Commissioner Santiago. All right. Is there any discussion that you guys want to have on that or can we go for a vote? Because I know we still have people lit up. Commissioner Caldwell, did you want to nominate somebody as well? We're going to do them separate. Each one we have to do separate. Yeah. Yes. We're going to vote on that one. Yeah. Yes. We're going to vote on this one first. I'm Barbara Turner. Motion passes seven to zero. Commissioner Santiago, you're up next on the board. No, he's going to do this. Sorry? He's after Commissioner Santiago. Go ahead. Thank you, Mayor. I move to confirm District 2's appointment of Darlene Oquendo for a term to expire May 31st, 2027 to the William S. Harvey Daltona Scholarship Advisory Board. Okay. There's a nomination by Commissioner Santiago with a motion. Is there a second by Vice Mayor Harriet? Please vote. All right. Motion passes seven to zero. Commissioner Caldwell, you're up next. And then we have one more spot after that. I move to confirm District 5 appointment or reappointment of Kimberly Eddins for a term to expire May 31st, 2027 to the William S. Harvey Daltona Scholarship Advisory Board. Okay. There's a motion by Commissioner Caldwell to appoint Kimberly Eddins. Is there a second? Second. Second by Commissioner Avila Vasquez. Can we please vote? Motion passes seven to zero. And then Vice Mayor Harriet, you're up next. Okay. We have one more nomination available if Commissioner Howington or Commissioner Nobick. You guys are the only ones that haven't nominated anyone. Did you want to nominate someone either? Whoever puts her name up on the board first. Commissioner Howington, go ahead. I move to confirm District 4's appointment of Brandy Reyes for a term to expire on May 31st, 2027 to the William S. Harvey Daltona Scholarship Advisory Board. There's a motion by Commissioner Howington to appoint Brandy Reyes. Is there a second? Second by Commissioner Caldwell. Can we please vote? Motion passes seven to zero. And at this time, we're going to go ahead. Commissioner Nobick, did you have anything else to say? Because I saw your name came up after. Okay. So we're going to go and move forward with 9D as in David, which is the add-on for the Christmas parade. Commissioner Nobick, you have the floor. I received several calls and saw quite a bit of comment on social media about moving the parade route to Providence Boulevard. It has been held on Providence Boulevard on a couple of occasions. Predominantly, parades in the city historically, back from the Mackle days, have been on Deltona Boulevard. On Deltona Boulevard, you have sidewalk on both sides of the street. You have ample parking down Justin Square all the way up through the Deltona Plaza. On a Friday night at 6 o'clock, there's, in my opinion, having worked it before from a public safety standpoint, there is considerably less traffic impact, I believe, to Deltona Boulevard than there is to the Providence Corridor. You have people coming home from work, just getting back into Deltona at 6 o'clock. Why we're doing it on a Friday instead of a Saturday at 6 o'clock at night and moving it to a location where we have very little parking. We just had a whole discussion last meeting about parking on the swales and stuff, and now we're going to be putting cars in the swales. You have no sidewalk up here in front of City Hall. On this side of the street, you're going to be parking cars here at City Hall, and it's a lengthy walk for many people from the backside of City Hall. Here's a parking lot to get down to the curb. I think it's probably too late to change things now, but I just think it's a really poor decision to be having it on Providence Boulevard versus where it traditionally has been on Deltona Boulevard. Thank you, Mayor. Are you requesting that for a future we make sure? Go ahead. I don't know the logistics at this point. I know there's a lot that goes into it from the Sheriff's Department. I don't know what they've already put into motion, if it's feasible to do it. I don't know what vendor contracts we have out at this point. Again, if it's feasible to do it, I don't – can you weigh in? I mean, is it logistically impossible to change it at this point if the commission were to direct you to do that? First, I would say I think it's an administrative decision on where the parade route is for a parade. I think that's operational. But since I arrived here, Parks and Recreation has been pushing. Last year I wanted to put it back, but I was just here within six months. I said stick to where it is. This year I said go ahead if that's what you think is the best. They thought it was the best parade in the past, so we're going to go through this one year. Going back to your point right now is we'll go through this first year, and if it seems that it was an issue, you know, certainly we can change it for the next year. But they believe confidently the staff bringing it to me, this was not my decision, and I believe the staff, you know, if they believe it's a greater idea. Certainly traffic could be an issue, but certainly anywhere. But this first year we'll – or this new year we will find out very quickly if we should never do this again or it ended up working out to be a great idea. So at this point I would say we'll still move forward on it as it is now and then really evaluate it as soon as it's over. If a motion was to be made to move it from the dais, would there be any issues with contracts or things that have been let so far? I don't have an answer to that question, but, again, I think it's an administrative decision, not a commission decision, on where the parade is going to be located. But that's up to the commission. Mayor, I'll wait to hear from my fellow commissioners. Commissioner Vila-Vasquez. Thank you, Mayor. I was not going to comment on this because since it is usually held in my district, District 3, on the street named after the city, Deltona Boulevard, and I get stopped at every store and shopping area that people know me and know that the parade was changed. And I just want to make a public comment that I had nothing to do with this. I had no input in this. And to bring the parade home is a false statement. The home of the parade was Deltona Boulevard. And I say it because the parade was put together by the Deltona Civic Association, of which I was a member of in 2002, also vice president of the Deltona Civic Association. And members of the Civic Association worked very, very tirelessly nights putting this parade together, going on the side streets of Deltona Boulevard, leaving notes on these homes to let them know, please do not park your cars on the road, put them on your driveway, because we used the side streets. We never used Deltona Boulevard for the lineup. We used the side streets. We did the parade the other way around because it was easier to disperse the audience via enterprise. So, no, Providence was never the home of the Deltona Parade. It was done once. I'm being told twice. I just remember once. And it was a disaster. Businesses on Providence Boulevard were upset because they had to close early. And the businesses on Providence Boulevard, there's more businesses on Deltona Boulevard than the part that we use on Providence Boulevard, than the part that we use on Deltona Boulevard. The only businesses that close are the businesses inside the plaza. Other than that, there is no other business being affected by the parade. And I don't know what you heard from VSO, but I can tell you the VSO was not happy with the parade when it was done on Providence Boulevard. There is no control. There is no control. You're closing Tivoli. You're closing Fort Smith. You're closing Elcombe. And you're closing Howland because all these streets are going to turn into Providence. I have no idea what routes are being assigned as detour, but I can tell you whatever detours you make is going to take whoever is coming this way a long, long distance. So I just wanted to clarify that because when people stop me, they're not being nice when they're asking me this. They're thinking that I have something to do with it. I had nothing to do with this change. I wasn't even asked. So, yes, this parade was done by the Deltona Civic Association. When the association broke down, they turned it into the city, and the city took it over. It was never a city parade. So I can tell you, Commissioner Navig, that it's never too late to avoid accidents and to avoid any problems with our residents the way it happened last time. Thank you. Commissioner Caldwell. I agree with my fellow commissioner's comments. I don't believe Providence Boulevard is the location to have a parade. I'd like to make a motion to keep it right where it's at. Well, on Deltona Boulevard. Right. All right, there's a motion by Commissioner Caldwell to move it back to Deltona Boulevard. And Commissioner Avila-Vasquez seconded it. Several hundred people, too. All right, we're going to continue with discussion before we go with the vote, obviously. So are you finished, Commissioner Caldwell? Commissioner Howington, you're up next. Thank you. I have had some time to think about this one because I was caught off guard by the decision as well. I have to respect the fact that this is an administrative decision. However, I do believe that it would have been helpful if the commission had been consulted, even on a one-on-one basis, because this does have an impact to the businesses in our districts. Commissioner Avila-Vasquez has businesses that probably, in some instances, may rely upon that income that they have year over year. And it's, I mean, I guess it's not guaranteed, but it is sort of expected based on historical precedents. I have had businesses reach out because they're concerned about potentially having to shut down because the parade will be interfering with their business. So I do feel as if some of the commissioners, at least based on what I'm hearing, I know for myself, I do feel like I was a bit in the dark as far as a large change like this. So while I don't know if it's right that we vote on this matter, I do think that something of this magnitude should have been discussed with the commission before making such a large change. Just because of the community impact, residents, and our businesses, it would have been nice to have some say. And at least, if nothing else, have notified the commissioners before it was put out to the public. Because I, as a commissioner, found out about it on the dreaded social media. So in this instance, for me, I got more information out of social media than I did the city. And that's disappointing. Commissioner Santiago. Thank you, Mayor. Commissioner, I can solve the problem here. I just, Mark is texting me right now. He is saying that it's Saturday 13th. He disagrees with some statements that were made that thinks it was factually incorrect. But he will move it back, if the commission really wants to move it back, they'll move it back to Deltona Boulevard at this point. It was always on a Saturday, so. Okay. Saturday the 13th, it says. Parade is set for Saturday the 13th. It wasn't Friday, from what he's saying in the text here. So I just want to correct that. So staff is directing that they'd like to just go back to that point if the commission's unhappy. All right, Commissioner Santiago, did you want to finish your statement? Just wanted to correct it. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Yes, just really quick, as an employee of the city of Deltona for 24 years, I actually ran the Deltona Parade on Providence Boulevard and was helping out with the fire department, with NOBIC, doing the parade on both sides. Now, I know I hear a lot of comments made that the parade should be kept on Deltona Boulevard. However, I've also gotten phone calls, and they're excited about having it on Providence Boulevard. And I've been there as an employee when it was on Providence Boulevard. And it was, I think it was fantastic. And you end up at City Hall. It was ran fine. There were no complaints. It was, I think it's fine right on Providence Boulevard. I don't think we should move it at this time. And it is on a Saturday instead of a Friday. So I say keep it the way it is. Let's try it. Let's see how it comes out. If it doesn't work, well, next year we can move it back to Deltona Boulevard. That's my suggestion. Thanks. Vice Mayor Herriot. Thank you, Mayor. I've heard a lot of comments on this both ways from the community. I've heard a lot of folks that do plan on it every year down on Deltona Boulevard. But I've also heard a lot of folks that were looking forward to it being up on Providence. It may have historically been on Deltona Boulevard, but that is in the far southwest corner of the city. And, you know, whether we do it this year or next year, I would like to see us look at an alternate spot that is more concentric to the city that we could, would make it easier for every resident to participate. I'd like to see the parade become bigger and better. I'd like to see more participation from the community. And it turned into an all-day affair. I think that that would be a phenomenal idea, a phenomenal approach moving forward, and a great community event. At some point, there's growing pains. I understand how difficult change can be, especially when it's not discussed with us and we're not prepared for it. But, you know, I look forward to, you know, seeing it on Providence this year if we decide to keep it that way or, you know, in some place that's more central to the city. In the future. All right. Is there any public comment? Well, it wasn't in, it wasn't. Go ahead. Courtney Cross Burgos, please. That's okay. Ms. Burgos, if you can just click on the, and I'll turn on the mic. Okay. Thank you. I don't have anything against it not being on Providence, I mean, on Deltona Boulevard, but I think Providence is a very poor choice. Where in the world are you going to park? Can anybody answer that for me? Up and down the road, where? I just drove here today, up Providence, and was thinking about it, and I was looking. There's, like, literally very few places to park. There was this huge turkey buzzer on three telephone poles, which has nothing to do with that, but I was paying attention. I don't think it's good. You know, the food trucks and the vendors and the people, you know, I mean, they come out in droves. I don't go because there's too many people, but, you know, with all their chairs and everything, I don't see that on Providence. It's just, it's too small, and there's too much houses. It's much more of a residential area. I'm with Davis, and it could be somewhere else another time, but somewhere that's better suited. Providence Boulevard is not suited for the parade. Sorry. All right. So we have a, currently we have a motion on the table and a second. We're going to go ahead and vote. Motion passes four to three. So you could tell Mark. I mean. All right. All right. We're going to go ahead, and we're going to go. City attorney comments? Thank you so much. I'd like to request three executive sessions. We have three cases that are pretty active right now, and we need to meet with you all. Our intent is to do them in 20-minute intervals before the next meeting, so do them at 5, starting at 5 o'clock on the 17th, 20 minutes, 20 minutes, 20 minutes, and end at public forum at 6. We may end up having to readjust that, but we'd like to request three executive sessions, and we'll work with the staff and the clerk to get them on the books. I don't mean to interrupt you, Mr. Sivio, and I would not interrupt you, but for the sake of time, can we make sure that when we schedule those executive meetings, because I'm the one that's running the timers, we end up showing up a minute late, and the world falls apart. So can we make sure we have enough time to go from upstairs, downstairs, because those are important conversations. So if we can schedule them for sooner than 5 o'clock, it would be great. That way it gives us ample time to have the discussions and be down here by 6 o'clock. That's a great point, and we can definitely work with the clerk and staff to get them so there's a 10, 15-minute gap so that you all can get here in time. Thank you for letting us know. That's a good flag. The first one is Damian Anson, et al., versus City of Deltona. This is in the Middle District and Federal Court. It's Case 623-CV00766JSSLHP. The second one is Stacey L. Kifalo, versus City of Deltona. This is in the Seventh Judicial Circuit, Case No. 2023-11761-CIDL. And the third one is John A. Peters III, versus City of Deltona. Also in the Seventh Judicial Circuit, Case No. 2023-11849-CIDL. That's all I have. Thank you, Mr. Ossuvia, City Manager. All right, Commissioners, Mayor, and public, glad to announce one of the biggest rating companies, Fitch Ratings, has upgraded the City of Deltona's utility system revenue bond rating from AA- to A+. So we've actually upgraded to reflect a very strong financial profile and very strong operating risk profile. Of course, AAA, I'm sorry, the other way, is from A- to AA-, so the step up. Perfect, of course, is AAA+, so we're working our way up. So we're going from A- to AA- is an upgrade, which is good for our city and shows a better bond rating for the future as needed. That's it. Thank you, Mayor. All right, thank you. At this time, we're going to go to City Commission comments, requests, and reports. And Commissioner Novick, we'll start from- this time, we'll start from 6 to 1. Commissioner Novick, you're up. Go ahead. Thank you, Mayor. I just want to apologize about the Friday the 13th thing. I have one calendar that the week starts on Monday and another one that starts on Sunday, and I just looked at it wrong, so that's why I thought it was Friday the 13th, which I thought was really strange to have a parade on Friday the 13th anyway. Anyway, that explains my confusion with the days of the week. It's the calendar, it's not me. Mr. Manager, can you elaborate a little bit more on how we achieved that improvement in the bond rating? I cannot at this time. Okay. And the finance guy ran away. And he's not here. Okay. But they were excited enough. Kudos to the staff and whoever has contributed to that happening, and I only hope that we can- I do recall some of the discussion included the $22 million in grant for the upgrade of the plant was one to actually show stability, and also the recognition that we have no lead pipelines, you know, any issues throughout the city, city property, going into the home. So I know those were a couple of pieces that certainly ate us in being a trusted organization to put your money towards. But as far as heavy detail, we can have finance give a little more detail for your commission. Thank you. That's it, Mayor. Commissioner Caldwell? Okay. Commissioner Howington? Oh, hold on. There you go. So in light of kind of what's happening in the community with the SNAP funding, I wanted to mention that the Lighthouse PCOJ in District 4 at 1785 LCAM has a food bank every second and fourth Tuesday at 7 p.m. if anybody is in need. And this weekend, their bishop, Zachariah Henry, just celebrated his 24th anniversary as a pastor. So that was a wonderful event to attend. But again, his organization is putting together these food banks. And so if there's anybody in our community who's in need, I encourage you to please reach out on Tuesday evening, second and fourth of every month at 7 p.m. Thank you. Commissioner Harrington, would you like for that to also, because I think that's good for the community. Would that be okay if you share that information with staff? All right. Commissioner Avila Vasquez. Thank you, Mayor. So, Doc, I sent you an e-mail. You might have missed it because you were in training. I think it was that Monday or Tuesday that you went for training. And it was asking about the turkey giveaway. I never received an answer from you about it. But actually, my first question leading into the turkey was, how has the city or the county been affected by this government shutdown? That was going to be my opening question. And then I was going to lead into the turkey giveaway. Right now, I know people in Deltona that are affected. As a matter of fact, one of the girls from the Sons and Daughters of Italy just lost her job because she works for the government, and she was one of those people that let go. They're losing snaps, like Commissioner Dorey is saying. I received two calls from two people asking me about daycares, if I knew any daycares, because the daycares they're taking their children to are closing down or limiting the hours. I think, and I just read on Facebook today, VSO is doing a fundraiser, collecting money to give to the people that are losing their snaps and their food stamps. And there is a website out there that Sherry Chitt will put out if anybody wants to make a monetary donation. This is how bad it is. This is how bad things are right now. So for us, to put a turkey on everyone's home at this time is going to be a blessing. So I'm hoping, and I don't know, I mean, it's the beginning of November, but I'm hoping that somehow we can keep this tradition going of putting a turkey on the name of the city of Deltona staff on their table, especially this year, this time right now, when a lot of our residents are probably losing their jobs. Yes, Commissioner, I'm sorry. I thought Parks and Recreation Director had spoken with you about this. No. He's in the process of trying to see what we can get between 8 and 10-pound birds, 10 and 12-pound birds. The cost is a pretty significant amount, but we're looking to try to do what we can do to get it done this year for sure. And that would be very appreciated by our resident. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Other than that, I just want to send prayers to the families in Jamaica and the other neighboring Caribbean islands that were affected by this terrible, terrible hurricane. And I just want to thank everyone for being here today and get home safe. Thank you. Commissioner Santiago. Thank you, Mayor. Just a few things. I have to mention the Deltona Wolves 14U Division won the championship, the 2025 Northeast Conference Championship. And they're now on the regionals game. So if they win this Saturday, they're going to go to nationals, which I believe it's in North Carolina. So these are Deltona kids. I'm very proud of them. I want to just do a shout-out and congratulations to the Deltona Wolves 14U Division. Undefeated and number one seed, by the way. Very proud of them. Rotary is also taking donations for the Basket Brigade. If you go online and put Volusia County Basket Brigade, you can sign up if you know of someone that needs it. Or if you just put their address and their information so they can at least get a box for Thanksgiving. And I think that is all I have. Oh, update on the crosswalk on Howland Boulevard and Wolfpack Run. Now, the construction is done as far as putting the sidewalks across. The next thing is to stripe them. And they're going to actually stripe. I know there was a few months ago someone had asked that when you're making on Wolfpack and making a left at the light onto Howland, that line is you can't see it. So when you have two vehicles making a left, it's like they don't just kind of hit each other. So that's going to be fixed, and that's coming very soon. So we're almost finished with that. So that's it. Thank you. Vice Mayor Herriot. Thank you, Mayor. I've got a couple things on the list for this evening. First off, I want to thank staff for the Halloween events. The Halloween event on Saturday was phenomenal. My wife and I were there for a few hours. We did the trail, and it was very well received. Every resident that we had talked to loved it. And we talked to a few of the vendors that were excited for all the events. They were excited for the Halloween event that we were at, but they were also all looking forward to the Celtic Fest this coming weekend. Celtic, Celtic. It's the Highland Fest. And the second thing is Wreaths Across America. Ms. King had asked if I would mention that again, so I absolutely want to bring that up. But I have already made my contribution of $250 and would like to challenge any of my fellow commissioners to also make a similar or greater contribution, if they will. It benefits – it's the American Legion Post 255 doing it. The wreaths will be placed on the gravestones and the Deltona Memorial Gardens on December 13th. And you can sponsor wreaths for $17 each. You can put in a total dollar amount that you want to contribute either way. And there are – there's a link and a QR code on the flyer on the city website for more details. And then I would like to discuss and find out if there's – we can get consensus to pause the enforcement of the commercial vehicle regulations, chapters 66-18. It's the same chapter that we paused enforcement on with the right-of-way parking until we can get a traffic engineer to really help us go through it and assess that. I received a ton of calls from residents in District 1 that will absolutely or are being negatively impacted by that restriction. A lot of our residents that don't fall into that emergency employee or emergency work category, they're not law enforcement, fire, or such, but they work for our utility companies, some of our heavy equipment operating companies, mechanics, and whatnot. And then, you know, reading back through that paragraph and being, you know, in the middle of looking for a truck myself, we limit it to 12 or 10,000 GVWR, and most F-150s are rated for 12,000 pounds. So even just the regular F-150 would then be noncompliant with the policy. So I'd like to get consensus to, if we could, to suspend enforcement of that chapter in that section specifically and bring that back when we bring back the updates to the right-of-way parking chapter. Before we get consensus, did we not suspend all enforcement, period, or just a portion? I just want to make sure. No, we did not. We only suspended a very – a select portion. So this would be another portion that you are able to suspend. Okay. So we can do a simple majority. So all those in favor, just say aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed? Okay. So we have one opposition, and you have consensus. Thank you, Mayor. And then the rest, we had – there was an accident in another district, and I won't go into specifics on that. I'll let that district commissioner do it if he will. But I would like to ask that we look at the thresholds when we do traffic safety studies. This has been a past issue in District 1 a couple times. But when we do traffic safety studies, what those thresholds for action are, I would like to understand what those thresholds are. And then, you know, possibly bring those back for us to assess, whether it's lowering the threshold or, you know, saying that they are actually good. But I've heard from a lot of residents that live on dead-end roads and roads that aren't your arterial or minor collector roads that are purely residential roads. The 30-mile-an-hour speed limit is just not conducive to having our kids playing outside, especially when we don't have sidewalks. We don't have, you know, those large front yards and whatnot to give them ample space to play. So I'd like to ask staff if we could take a look at that. And then the last item on my list is the future parade routes. I'd like us to see or to evaluate potential options, other potential options for the parade route. I understand the historical significance to Deltona Boulevard. But from my house in the southernmost portion of District 1, it still takes me almost 20 minutes to get down there. And then the majority of District 1 on the north side of El Cam, you're talking about, you know, greater than 20 minutes to get down to the parade. And just fighting with all that traffic and whatnot to get out of there and get back. I'd like to find a location that's a little more central in the city if we can. Understanding that it needs to take into account emergency response, you know, closure of roads and parking and all those important things that will lead to a successful event in the future. So thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I only got four things to ask. They're not. Can I get a date for the implementation of the Ordinance Review Committee, please? I don't know if we have a date set for that. Can we get one? Yes. Just because, I mean, this was my request, and to some of the residents' points, we've, let's just, because it's set to sunset anyways, and they're not going to really have a full year. So can we just get the date as soon as possible? We'll figure out a date in the morning with staff meeting. Awesome. Thank you so much. The second question is somewhat of a difficult one to tackle, but I think we owe it to all of our residents, and I don't think anybody on this dais is against our kids. But we really need to have a conversation about the scholarship. Obviously, I voted for it this time because it was already budgeted for. It was on the budget. But we need to have an honest conversation. Do we want to possibly get some of the vendors we have and pull for some type of sponsorship or something and take that off the backs of the residents? But maybe work it in a workshop. I mean, if the city commission will entertain me with consensus of that, I would greatly appreciate it. So a simple majority for a workshop on the scholarship. All those in favor, say aye. All those opposed, say no. All right, we have one opposition. Well, it's my, it's, go ahead, Commissioner Howland. The reason that I oppose it is because as of last meeting, I feel like the workshops aren't really beneficial, and I agree with you. Believe it or not, I actually agree with you that we need to have this conversation. But I think that it's probably something that we could just handle during a regular meeting and take an action item on it. That, that's why I oppose that. Thank you. Okay. Third thing is for the turkey giveaway, the commissioner of Elio Vazquez spoke about in the past, Mark has been very great with sponsorships. Maybe that's something that we want to try to do again. I know it's short notice, but instead of going into our budget, let's, you know, I believe last year we had, I mean, I won't mention them, but we had a bunch of them. They, they, they, they promoted it themselves. Okay. Yeah, he would be working the regular sponsors that he works with. He also recommended that any money that the commissioners may have that they'd like to give from their fund. That's fair. Thank you. And the last thing I want to bring up is some of the properties, some of the plazas, I know they're private property, right? And I don't want to infringe on anybody's private property rights, but some of the plazas have some potholes that, you know, you drive right over them and you're losing your transmission. It goes with beautifying the city. If we're holding our residents to a higher standard, can we make sure, obviously I can't direct staff, but city manager, can we talk to our, not only our plaza owners, but making sure that when code enforcement gets out there, we have some teeth to our bike. Because I'm not going to mention which plaza, we've spoken to them multiple times. There's electrical wiring that's been hanging like down. They've curled it up and it's still hanging, but God forbid we get hit with a hurricane. We need to do something about some of the plazas. The one I was speaking about. And he has, but we, we need to, we need to really do something about, again, if we're, if we're imposing things on our residents, commercial property should not be any, if anything, their, their area should be a lot nicer. So, especially in the CRA. So if, and there's great opportunity in the CRA. I, I mean, I just don't understand it. So if we can, for public safety, you know, we have an ambulance, God forbid, actually there was an ambulance not too long ago in, over there by Key Foods. That plaza has a couple potholes. I just, I don't see how it's safe. So if we can address that, I would very greatly much appreciate it. And that's, oh, Commissioner Caldwell, did you want to? About parking in the fire lane to go inside and grab a quick bite? All that should be addressed, 100%. Yeah, it's terrible in some of these plazas. Commissioner Novick, did you want to? We, Mr. Manager, one of the things that we did back in my previous life is we coordinated, we call them sweeps. We had the building official, the code enforcement, and the fire official all go at one time together and hit, hit one plaza, then hit another. And the property owners were actually pretty receptive to that, to getting everything done all at one time rather than the fire guy coming through one month and then code coming through the next month and so on. So staff might want to look at doing that. And to finish off, a great example was there was one of our fire trucks was trying to get through on the Publix that's on Cortland and Fort Smith. And there was a car parked waiting for pizza on the fire lane. And they literally honked, which is a long, very loud honk, and they still stood there. So that, I mean, I don't know how much we can enforce it, but that's Commissioner Howington, and then I'll adjourn the meeting. For the neighborhoods that have the fire lane issues because the roads are too narrow and people should not be parking on the roads, is there any way that we could potentially get code to start putting notifications on cars? Not necessarily violating, you know, issuing violations yet because a lot of those communities do not realize that it's a problem. Yeah, and so could we possibly start the education process and maybe just putting notices on cars so that they realize that they're not supposed to park there? Because I believe we have probably five or six subdivisions that are impacted by that. Thank you. All right, everyone have a great night. Meet Agent Jordan. Thank you.