Budget Workshop - May 19, 2026

comes it's a long time no see okay good morning everybody we got a busy day today and you guys ready to start ready to start yeah uh based on our last um our last workshop uh the sheriff is here uh to address some of the issues that we talked about we're going to limit the conversation to the airport and solely to the airport and um and so i'm going to give you the floor all right now first of all good morning and thanks for the invitation to come i think over the last several weeks this discussion has kind of uh led to the workshop having this meeting you guys know if i'm not here i watch all the meetings regardless i listen to all the commentary i take notes on it what this is not going to be and i want to be clear because i know sometimes there's a concern about is there tension is there going to be uh conflict conflict can be healthy right when they're talking about ideas uh and rationale behind what we're doing i don't see this one as being a super conflict i really appreciate it i said it on social media i put it out to the media when they asked my concerns about you guys going out and doing the feasibility study bravo that's the way business needs to be done if we as elected officials and government officials are going to make decisions on behalf of two million people and impact an airport with almost 36 million plus commuters coming through it needs to be done through data-driven analysis so we read the jensen report is collectively amongst our team that we think it was a thorough first phase but of course to their own admission there's a great deal of more research that needs to be done in my opinion before this commission would make a final decision on that one of the things i want to start mayor if you don't mind i'm going to actually kind of start with something i heard you say um and i think it's important to kind of correct some of this stuff you made an inquiry as to and i'm paraphrasing i can't remember precisely how you said it but about how did we get to a point where the airport budget had increased by 50 percent i was informed that in the past since 2020 and the administrator can correct me if since 2020 the airport budget has increased 50 percent and so i to me this is we're here today really to see how we can reduce reduce costs okay and so two men that i have with me today just to introduce them some of you know them some of you probably haven't had a chance to engage with them yet to my right is lieutenant colonel christopher d giovanni he is the second in command of all law enforcement operations to his right is commander or major brian montgomery who leads up responsibility for all critical infrastructures and that's really probably one of your more closer partners in the sense that he's responsible for the airport aspect the port as well as the courthouse so i want to start with talking about that because oftentimes what i at least seen from this commission if there's an inquiry is because you don't have all the data in front of you or you haven't heard about it one of the most significant things that has resulted in some of the increases is what we agreed upon meaning this body bso as well as the county and your representatives was about the overtime implications and why have we absorbed so much we've gone from 500 000 back in 2000 look like 20 21 in overtime to 4.7 million dollars in overtime and then escalating up to where we're operating right now at 500 000 differential we used to be to now 7.3 million dollars in overtime so how do we get there one of the things i want to talk about is the reason we're driving so much overtime outside of the contractual stuff that was agreed upon and major montgomery's going to go through this is about manpower for seven consistent years i talked to this body about increasing asos the airport security officers and law enforcement deputies inside that facility we haven't gotten to that point yet but i think you see with the mathematics and when major montgomery start talking about this stuff it pushes the importance of increasing manpower at the airport to include the asos so i'm going to turn this over just briefly to major montgomery to give you an overview on the overtime implications and how we got there and then we perhaps talk about potential strategies in the future to reduce that which is probably going to go back to my point about personnel and getting the appropriate aso numbers back up to where they used to be as well as increasing the officer in terms of volume that was required out there especially knowing we're going to terminal five with almost 50 million people expected to go through there so major let's just do a quick synopsis in terms of the overtime how's that how you've managed that and where did it start mayor uh county commission county administrator and county attorney good morning um thank you for this opportunity so as the sheriff stated um back in 2021 the overtime budget for the airport was about five hundred thousand dollars and that was for people calling sick work holidays stuff like that so what happened is there was a discussion in early 2021 on staffing the tsa checkpoints with deputy sheriffs and there were some discussions on how that was going to be funded one of the ideas was we have what's called a special detail so if you know a private business has an event they hire detailed deputies and that's out of our special detail office and during those discussions in early 2021 january 2021 we just let bcad know that if you go with a special detail that is a voluntary assignment by deputies we can't guarantee that that checkpoint would be staffed so during our discussions and i and bcad made the right decision they said we're going to staff that with overtime so that was the start of the overtime the overtime budget was increased in 2021 july 21st of 2021 and we have since been staffing the tsa checkpoints with deputies from the time that the checkpoint is opened which starts about three o'clock in the morning until the time it closes different checkpoints but usually till midnight so you're looking at almost 20 hours a day those checkpoints are staffed by a deputy sheriff i think bcad made the right decision they wanted that airport secure so from 2021 to 2026 you have increases in costs for personnel so those that line item of overtime increased but the unattended consequences is also the personnel cost right for retirement insurance once that employees paid overtime that also increases just like the county if you all pay an employee overtime it's also those those personnel benefits they also increased so here we are in 2026 we're staffing the checkpoints we're there we're using overtime funds and that is where the increase came from it was a collaborative conversation every year throughout the year on staffing those checkpoints we maintain it and i can guarantee that anytime that you all fly out you see a deputy there at the tsa checkpoint um i think it's it's it's money well spent um we have um over the we started tracking um the incidents that we have at the checkpoints um we did a special like uh signal for incidents at the at the checkpoint we started in october of 2025 and we've handled over 900 incidents at the checkpoints from october 2025 and when i say incidents we have people trying to bring weapons in firearms right they forget their firearm is in their carry-on bag i don't know how you do that but they do we have people trying to bring drugs through trying to get on a plane we catch them and then we also have the people who are upset either they didn't like you know the tsa uh took too long they think tsa you know screened them a little too thoroughly but we have a deputy right there to neutralize the situation again i think it was the right decision um i understand that when you just look at on the surface and you see the budget increases you might think did bso do this how did this happen but i can tell you it was a collaborative effort between bso and bcad and that was overtime driven uh good morning uh mayor county commission county staff and the residents that are with us behind um so to summarize that just to clarify uh it's important to remember that bso we're the service provider and we take great pride in providing service on the various places in the county that we do and that we're entrusted like the airport but as a service provider we uh scale our operation based on the request that we receive in this case from bcad so if bcad is making the decision the operational decision to staff personnel on overtime at each one of the tsa checkpoints there is a cost associated with that we are glad to provide that service and we do communicate to explain to bcad what that cost would entail but that's why you see the drastic change from 2021 all the way to current date in overtime because there's an operational decision that was communicated to us to increase the level of service at the airport footprint and we provided that service as requested i just wanted to clarify that um for bcad's decision on why they made that decision to staff that i think that they could opine on that um major montgomery might have some operational background on why that decision was made that's important and relevant um as far as the tsa um requirement to have responses within a certain period of time and what that means if that's failed at the airport we as a service provider however provided the additional service and there was a cost associated with that so mayor maybe can we pause for a second and see if the county administrator her team has any response for that before i move on i don't think we're this is controversial it's just a matter of business decision that we support it so uh mr gale wasn't able to make it this morning he's um tied up with discussions with spirit airlines um and that uh situation but um in order to because i didn't understand in advance what you guys were prepared to come and discuss um we were not we don't have the you know the background on the overtime conversations and and what level those um were had and and honestly what the mayor had referenced was the 50 percent was on the actual costs not on even the budget proposals and budget requests that you had um because they were far exceeding those amounts um probably in the 100 percent range and and this is what were actual paid so so there's a difference in and in kind of structure between budget requests um which have been significantly higher and then the actuals as well so so there's a couple of different conversations on that um and i know that um based on fluctuations and operational needs at different times um and i think it's about maybe also the composition of the individuals that are boots on the ground so to speak um and the level of the individuals versus deputies and asos and so that that mix is important in this conversation which i don't think the commissioners really have the benefit of understanding that um distribution of personnel uh based on what you shared here so in fairness i think um we're happy to have additional conversations with you all as we've discussed we're going to be continuing the dialogue um and there's some more research that needs to happen with with information that you guys can provide us um and so we're happy to continue that but at this moment i'm not prepared to go into uh kind of that's fair enough a response because we we didn't know what you were going to that's fine that's fair we'll we'll get you everything that we have you know we pulled all the different email correspondence and like you said i thought mark was going to be here so um we can table that side and get back to that another time sounds like that can i just ask him to clarify a couple things and then we'll go around real quickly you said that there you're staffing at checkpoints how many checkpoints are there so mayor there are four terminals and there are uh five checkpoints so terminal three has two checkpoints uh checkpoint e echo and foxtrot so when i go to terminal three and i go through tsa and after i finish getting my bag from tsa there's a bso gentleman sitting at a kind of against the wall uh that is what you're talking about is your deputy that's at the checkpoint is that correct you are correct mayor okay so you have five of those uh and that's at the request of bcat yes mayor um one other clarification if i can um so five staffed five staff deputies full time uh doesn't come out to 7.3 million unless they're making over a million dollars a year you know unless they're making over half a million dollars a year uh i don't understand i'm sorry uh just don't understand how you're attributing the the the checkpoints to 7.3 million my apologies mayor so just for clarification for the for the commission so terminal one and terminal four are the anomalies because they have eight or more tsa lines um queue lines for passenger screening um we have to have two deputies at terminal one and two deputies at terminal four just because of the size of the terminals so um and then that's 20 hours a day so i think the total um don't hold me to this number but it comes to about 15 000 hours a year and then plus the you're talking about that plus the overtime equates to what this issue that our administrator brought it's all over time it's all over time the deputies salary this is all over time you are correct mayor it's all over time anybody have uh start on this side and move around you want to start with uh mr rogers it's one question as it relates to um do you have the authority to decide whether or not you do a regular staffer not staffer a regular pay instead of you can you have the authority to do with the overtime dollars that you have whether or not you use someone that is part-time i consider if you're not full-time regular staff whether or not you're bso am i making sense you have that money can you decide to put a regular person in that position so you know what that cost is going to be as opposed to this formula that you're using that is very pricey to answer your question yes but in this set of circumstances what was requested from bcat was to waive the actual standard special details which would bring officers into the environment instead and and this is where we'll get all this data i've read all these emails that go back several years it was specifically stated that they wanted to use the overtime funds to cover those responsibilities and do you think that is the best way to use those funds now that you have gone through the process what would you i respectfully i don't want to second guess your county administrator here and in her team uh they this was a request i think the lieutenant colonel made it clear we provide the level of service that is requested from our partners and that's what was articulated through a two-year three-year timeline of emails and communications amongst our people that that was the best decision for the time i think one thing to get to where i was heading um this is going to be a little bit longer than what i anticipated if we properly outfit the airport with the necessary personnel that we requested over a span of seven years including asos we will reduce the need for overtime because we'll have full staffing there that can meet the needs and what's going to be happening with terminal five so there's there's a i think there was an immediate response uh to fix an issue that would require recruiting and hiring and getting more people in there and the best solution that the county team looked at was let's just hire the overtime right now get through this process and then now we're at this table having this discussion okay one quick sure i know from sitting here that you can do anything with the money you have and you have been financially responsible i'm going to give that to you and so i'm asking you right now after seeing what we have done and analyzing what we have done is that still the best recommendation no if you had to make a recommendation no no i don't think it is because we have an opportunity to to fix it and do it the right way one of the things i heard repeatedly expressed collectively amongst this group after your workshop was there was either an interest of power control or cost savings if i missed one something tell me but it was either power control or cost savings the cost saving implications are best suited by manding and staffing the airport with the appropriate personnel if we're talking about power and control that's something that we can easily rectify by in my opinion getting rid of this 1996 contract and starting fresh looking at terms that the county wish to see and what we wish to see and figuring that out with our teams and start fresh you have to provide you sure responsibility to the taxpayers and that's what we're not seeing very clearly so i'm glad that you're saying there needs to be a change and this is not the best model for us to be using these are tough times thank you you know i was just asked before going around are you is that basically your presentation is that done or i didn't want to interrupt you and i'm sorry may there's a couple key points but you want to let them finish before you ask anymore but i kind of want to just zone in on this overtime issue quickly i won't be as long um first of all i'm glad you're here um i have a concern with this whole issue of running a section of bso strictly on overtime because you said there are legacy costs it's been going on for six years and that has not been brought to our attention so i'm glad you're bringing it up because we can assume a lot of things unless we have the dialogue we don't even know what questions to ask necessarily sure so i would hope that our administrator gets with the director to really figure out where this all came from because if we're running anything on overtime solely that's a problem every city knows that counties know that we can't run an operation on overtime and so there's probably plenty of blame to go around as to why this wasn't brought up before or or why we didn't try to fix it um but we cannot run a whole section of this airport solely on overtime so i'm glad you brought it up we need to fix it thank you well sheriff why don't you finish with your appropriate presentation and then we'll we'll sure so again everything that we've already discussed is available we brought three ring binders in here and everything we'll get you everything that could fast track your assessment on some of these things that's taken place just a moderate response commissioner you know davis this is something we have talked about in terms of budget requests over an expanded almost seven years now and we understand and respect that this is your first term on the commission and we still have an obligation to share information with those who are newer but uh back to this this bcad uh examination for a police department someone asked me do we want to have the responsibility for the airport and and the truth of the matter is the less liability we have the less headache i have uh as an organization but that's not the appropriate response we need to have vso at that airport for a multitude of reasons behind the public safety implications that exist the history of us being down there since 1996 a clear understanding of the infrastructure where the vulnerabilities are we've trained mass casualty active shooter events down there consistently annually you're going to lose so much more of institutional knowledge by starting up a police department i think it was stated by the jensen representative of course anything is feasible yes you can start your own police department but at to what degree in that to what extent of liability and risk you want to absorb when we're talking about a critical infrastructure that has almost 36 plus million people with a projected path of going to 50 million if we're willing meaning this commission is willing to examining for spending potentially 300 million dollars on this because that 230 over five years is not accurate because you haven't done work analysis and so much more that number is going to go up ladies and gentlemen so if you're willing to uh explore that then i think it's better to explore if you want power you want control those are two of the core things i've heard then let's start fresh with a contract that makes sense based on modern times that's one two if we're looking at cost expenditure let's get back and examine why have we requested so many asos for almost a decade now why have we requested additional law enforcement personnel for almost a decade coming up in 2028 to be a decade if we continue at this pace one quick comparison that was not in that report and i think it summarizes the imperative nature of manpower not just the overtime stuff miami-dade uh in their airport executes about 55 million commuters coming through that airport every single year you know how many asos they have working at the airport and i understand terrain and scale but i'm making a perspective here they have 125 asos at their airport we have what 22 and we're planning to go to 50 million when terminal 5 is operational what are we waiting for to start increasing the asos post 9 11 that number this commission voted to increase that to 55 55 asos used to be there and gradually whatever the reasons covid economy that number has been reduced at the request of this body we need to get back and start building up that infrastructure for these asos and we need to have the necessary manpower and law enforcement officers there to be successful when it goes bad i don't look just like commissioner geller pulled out his report with his tabs and we've all read this thing everyone knows what it means the question is are we going to continue to explore this and invest more money into this knowing that the outcome will still be the same it's going to cost you more and it's going to create problems when it comes to security because that's the one thing that wasn't articulated enough amongst this group was transitions create problems and they come with hardships increased financial costs and we will suffer and have a security lapse as this process take place over a span of probably really five to seven years three to five isn't realistic it would take five to seven years to do this the right way and while you're doing that you're spending twice the volume to maintain a up-and-coming police department and the sheriff's office under what regard what is what is so important that we can't figure this out and get a new contract on close with that okay um mr you dean i just had one comment when i started that i was going to bring up but i i have two now because i want to just respond to one thing because i i just want you're limited to one only no like two and i'm going to be very quick the perspective is it's not between operating a business at overtime versus regular staffing what we've been asked for late there's a difference between overtime and detail and the and bcad said we can't work on detail because detail is a voluntary type of thing and this needs to be done if it's going to be done through overtime so i i think everyone sitting around this table would agree that between overtime and a fully staffed person we would rather have a fully staffed person that doesn't want overtime but i don't think that was the what we were talking about over those few years so i just don't want the public perception to be different as we sit here today i agree with you i don't think there should be so much overtime there i don't think there should be detail either i think these should be specific employees that should be staffed to the appropriate level of staffing my only real comment on the airport uh contractual services and i never like to use the word contractual services sheriff tony and i kind of talk about this a little i don't consider bso a contractual service provider to broward county he is the elected sheriff he's responsible for law enforcement within our framework we do have some contractual obligations he said this this is something that gives him more liability this i mean we have a contract um that is paid for by the airline community because we're a signatory airline property taxpayers aren't paying for this but we have a duty to make sure that this is done in the safest way and the most fiscally responsible way the one thing throughout this whole thing uh bullet point number eight in this agreement this contract with the airport was entered into in 1996 the iphone was invented in 2006 this contract is 10 years older than the technology that we live and breathe 24 7 a day there's no way that we can continue the relationship under the original 1996 contract so if you want to work with jensen hughes or whoever to while they work down this path the first thing is there should be a way to redo the contract so that both sides have a specific understanding because there's no understanding in here what the responsibilities that we want reports from you versus them it's been bootstrapped with amendments just to increase staffing but until we get a contract that we can all base off of the rest of it is just fluff and smoke and mirrors senator geller anything thank you senator geller thank you mr mayor um sheriff couple of uh questions first uh as you know i have uh always looked at your reports carefully with the grain of salt and i've done exactly the same with jensen hughes i don't really fully trust any report till i examine the numbers so um i just because they say so i have not taken anything they've said as gospel um i have a couple of specific questions and by the way first i agree with everything that commissioner udian has said which is a common occurrence um on the 50 increase am i hearing you correctly that it would make sense that that number is going to go considerably higher once assuming nothing changes once terminal five becomes operative because if there's a lot more passengers going through and up more terminals i'm assuming that's going to raise the numbers further correct it's a hypothetical but i would imagine there's going to be some increase um in terms of if we are allocated what we've requested in terms of personnel right maybe 20 more deputies whatever amount of asos that we've submitted that's naturally going to go up but we can't predict how much frequency that terminal five is going to have we know 50 million is a big number so i'd rather have us fully staffed and ready now because the build out is probably going to take another five years i would imagine or so four i'm not up to speed on that okay so if i might the administrator terminal five as you know is is several years away um first of all and secondly um it would really be dependent not just on volume of people it's about checkpoints is really what that's about just to make sure that we're talking apples apples okay thank you um sheriff okay um to your point that's a great question um and just for clarity and transparency sake because that's it's important in communication um so it really depends on what bcad requests as the service provider again we'll provide the service that's requested terminal five or any of the other terminals there is an option to go to a to the flex option at the tsa checkpoints that would not require us to have staffing there on 20 plus hours a day at each one of these checkpoints bcat has made the decision to staff it permanently now we may stand behind them and say well that's a prudent decision but again we are providing the service that is requested if a flex option was decided by bcad then we would wind down the operation accordingly and then you would see a significant reduction in cost so we're not here to advocate for one way or another because that's not what this meeting is about but it's important that you know that operational decisions have a fiscal impact so it depends on the option okay next question the uh as i recall the report from jensen hughes uh said that there's supposed to be 130 deputies and there's averaging around 100 um my question is and i wasn't sure from their report if we're actually staffing with 100 as opposed to the 130 are we paying for 100 or are we paying for 130 so it's another great question so at the year thank you i have them yes please don't compliment him yes thank you good point mayor i'll let them know next time mayor i believe the uh the assistant county administrator mike ruiz answered this question adequately last time we're in actual costs at the dld services at the airport so you're paying for the actual services are there jensen and hughes what they did is they understood that there is a certain economy of scale with partnering with the sheriff's office because we have a lot of those regional services that the airport benefits from once that relationship if it were in fact severed you lose that economy of scales and you have to hire additional support staff to manage an independent municipal department okay um sheriff under florida law on your general sheriff duties this is separate this is a contract duty on your general sheriff duties you have the ability to shift funds around at your own discretion does that also occur at the airport or because that's contract you're more limited in that and the reason i'm asking is i'm wondering if you've had the ability and if not if there's something we can do to shift numbers around to hire more of the asos which are vastly less expensive than the sworn deputies commissioner we have not shift funds around in terms of how we operate at the airport or in most of our cities um i think you have been a champion to remind the community that that was a capability now provided when the statute changed and i'll say it again i am not an advocate for that um good when we shift significant amount of monies there's no new money so if i pull five million dollars and say i think we need to purchase x well that's five million dollars i'm gonna have to come back here and ask for um and you're already telling me you're in in a financial crisis and uncertainty so i try to avoid that we don't have that type of requirement to do so unless i'm seeing something differently with the airport uh the relationship and this was something i think commissioner uh you didn't had mentioned about the relationship needs to be better the relationship we have with the management staff and team at that airport in my opinion is superb i've never heard from monaco or michael in the times that they've been in these roles and the time i've been here that we had a management issue at the airport i've never seen an email from my team that's saying there's an issue with this we typically have a difference of opinion when it comes to our request for personnel versus what the county says it can afford at the time that's our biggest debate okay and my last question well actually it's in two parts is there were some statements in the jensen hughes report that i'd like to hear your side of your opinion uh first um they said that there was an issue over control and consultation and a lack of that and it said pretty clearly they thought that it would be better for the county to have more control which we would have internally that's the first i'd like to hear you respond to that and then the second thing is on continuity they said that there's a lot of because you have many thousands of deputies that people tend to rotate in and out of the airport and they suggested it would be better if i think if you put airport seaport together somewhere around 250 employees in security and that's excluding what the airport and seaport currently have in their own people but you have about give or take 250 people at the airport and seaport combined it said that they thought that there would be more continuity if there was a dedicated force there as opposed to your rotating deputies in and out i want to give you the the chance to respond to those two statements so can you please yeah those are simple um so the first part you're talking about control and consultation i think going back to my previous statement if the county administration therefore the county commission feel as though there's greater control that you seek then the time to establish that is with starting a new contract to identify what that control looks like and how that consultation works when it comes to the continuity of command this is where i differ uh with this report one of the things i have strategically done since 2019 when it comes to that airport knowing how important it is to have people who are seasoned understand that process understand that structure understand the working relationships with tsa and all the other entities there when i promote to captain the probability is if that captain succeeds well at that airport and is promoted he or she will be the major of critical infrastructure so there's no loss in institutional knowledge that's how brian arrived to major he's down at the airport did a superb job got things going in a very good fashion the relationship and operating things are going well what that report fails to recognize when you start talking about continuity and command structure when you build out your own police department the first four to five years we're going to have to be there and there's going to be a lot of confusion a lot of misinformation about delegation of authority and powers and at some point that's going to subside when you take over and have your own police department but what's not going to change if you have a true law enforcement administrator who is not a politician not caught up with concerns of revenue streams and everything else but we'll tell you the facts the concerns that we have will be the same for your your upcoming chief if he or she is qualified and competent to get that done a major would like to add to that sir commissioner geller i want to assure you and the entire commission that the relationship between the briar chair's office and bcad is nothing short of superb i am sure that the county administrator mr reese will say that mr gail mr nanamaker mr demoff security director that we are in constant communication i have to listen to mr gail telling us telling me that philadelphia fans are better than south florida fans but every time from holiday ops plans to cruise season to traffic issues we have constant communication constant meetings and we adjust to what is going on at the airport at that time so i would just want to make everyone clear there's no issues with communication thank you major colonel and sheriff no no where you go you just tab page 16 of the report paragraph four so someone get with jensen hughes and figure it out because what they said there is there's no communication and i think somebody needs i i only said that what i said at the last meeting thank you commissioner let's move on let's go thank you oh me yep i wasn't going to say anything but good let's move on i'm a little confused a um that i was coming to a budget meeting where people present their budgets and i was coming to negotiate um no no but i'm just saying but i'm sure you had a lot to do with it and i respect that and i'm just baffled that why we why i'm here trying to explain myself to anybody other than people i serve with and the people who elected us and we're looking at options on how to provide public safety at bcad and i've been here uh i'm in my fourth year almost fourth year completed and this is the same topic and it's funny how this just came out of your mouth and then it went back to the to the um report to say talk about communication or lack thereof um i've been talking about that almost four years now uh and that goes to the administrator and you and i made a comment one day about we're playing because playing chess and it kind of rubbed some feathers but i'm a policy maker i don't run the airport i don't run sheriff's office but at the airport i have an administrator that i can go and you know dig a little deeper the sheriff's office i don't have that opportunity and i've shared this with you time and time again even in our conversation you said i know you had a police department before when you were at the city of fort lauderdale but this is this is bigger it's not at that same magnitude but i think it still comes down to two things control and control and where the power thing come from i don't know where that one came from but we just want to be able to control our airport and the contract we have now does not allow us to do that and if we haven't revisited or haven't been successful in getting there since 1996 there's a real problem in this room and and how we do this um so we decided as a commission to um get a consultant she was best for us and i'm sure we understand the cost of startup um and we're willing to do that if we think this is the best decision for bcad i am at least and the services you provide to us at the airport is no different than 31 municipalities that you provide service to you're the vendor we're the customer but in those contracts we have more flexibility um those cities have more flexibility to negotiate some of the details and i think that's why we're here today and i heard you say that you know we need to sit down and talk but when was the last time you sat down and talked with mr pera when was the last time you guys communicated because we can't find the emails as you stated and that was my biggest thing last time though the two of you need to hash this out before it comes to me and um when was the last time you had to sit down with monica it's been quite some time but let's get some clarity no no just a question you're not no no no you don't get to dismiss me and ask me i'm not dismissing you sir i'm just trying to answer the question you brought it up so i'm going to answer it in its entirety fair enough no you would not answer answer yes or no question listen i am not here to be yes or no i'm just asking a question and and you're going to get the answer i'm going to ask her the same question you're going to get the answer you're going to get the answer first of all you assert that bso is not the same um in terms of its partnership we're a vendor again this nonsense needs to end it needs to end now i came in here under good faith at the request of this commission whether it be individuals are elected a combination of it but to state that there's no difference between a city and an airport speaks to the fact that you're not informed about what goes on down there second this isn't a chess game this commission will make its move regardless of i was here today or not and it's not going to change reality facts don't care about your feelings they just don't the math is the same two plus two is going to be four today tomorrow until the sun burns out now we're trying to work with this commission i am trying to cut the bs politics out of this but if you draw upon it then good luck to this commission in selecting and choosing to take an emotional decision that's going to cost people their life let's just you know sheriff let's not take anything personal let me have everyone's entitled to their feelings right everyone's out of their feelings just like we're all into our feelings uh mayor i understand that yeah but when you assert i'm not talking to monica monica has full access to my undersheriff and the way i do business in the last seven years in this entire county our undersheriff communicate with all city managers and our undersheriff communicates with the county administrator which of you talk to my colonels none of you which of you talk to my undersheriff none of you that is their responsibility thank you michael okay i'm not done because i want to ask monica the same question but when you called me the other day you mentioned that there's a big difference between the police department that i work with and bso that's where the comment came from it was nothing personal to you i'm just making uh stating the fact that that relationship was a very good relationship for me and the administration because we had um control we had um input and i don't see that here that's not to say um that it's not happening i'm just asking you today um how often you communicate with uh with miss apparel after we made these statements the last time we were in person uh in a meeting like this and feelings got involved i just ask you when was the last time so that i can wrap my head around you know what we're doing here today and try to make a decision an informed decision of where we go and this is why i brought it up uh today so mr perry when was the last time you sat down with the sheriff so after the last um set of budget workshops where you would ask that same question we did communicate directly um and on occasion we'll have conversations on the phone but as the sheriff stated i believe his preference is to have his undersheriff uh work with myself and our team as opposed to him directly yeah that's fair that's fair enough and is there a problem with that county administrator or deputy county administrator well i i honestly i think it's probably more productive for you and i to have conversations at times um than just delegating it to our staffs and do you have my cell phone number i'm just telling you that i'm just leave and you have mine for your commission and you have mine right right if i need to call you have i called you very rarely but yes right sure same applies to her let's and i guess i could just stop here because uh this is the reason why i'm really considering all options on the table because i would like to be able to pick up a phone call someone and get a direct response and constitutionally you get to do um what you need to do but you deem necessary for bso that's constitutionally um dictated we get that we fund you we don't run you we fund you we don't run you we run that airport and we're going to look at every option at that airport uh so that we can make sure that we're making the best decision on what we need to do i really appreciate you coming in today but i'd rather have a dialogue with your with you um regularly but it's only when we hit a wall when we really talk talk to some of your um undersheriffs and uh captains and uh the tactical team you put out in the community and the bmsd which is the only the only obligated um constitution for the state of florida uh area that you police every other city outside of the bmsd is a contract for service you're the vendor they're the customers our procurement allows us opportunities to um get in the weeds with our with our contracts uh so we can get the best that we can whether that we can do that we can get and this contract that we have here now it seems to be backwards it seems to be you have the authority and we don't have any authority and the way i read this 1996 contract so we're just trying to get to the bottom to make a sound decision it could it could stay just where it is or it could move on based on the information that i that i get and thank you for coming here today and providing information that i needed to make a decision thank you to monica and moving to commissioner fur just as everybody's talked about even the sheriff's mentioned we're going to look for a new contract i think that's what he said and that's what we're going to move forward hopefully council can get that done tomorrow thank you mr fur thanks real quick because i most everything's already been discussed but i will say and to major um when we had um mark gale here the other day i directly asked him i said do you feel like you're able to communicate and the control issue of of where the deputies can go and he said no so i i think you probably have a very good it sounds like you have a good relationship if you're able to talk football and all that kind of stuff but that is different than coming together and and figuring out how to work as a team and how to essentially plan how it's organized and and placement staff placement all those things and you know i imagine it changes on a regular basis depending on season who's coming in that's i think that's what we're looking for i i think we're looking to for that or that's what i'm looking for you know but i think i've i've heard that of the the that that we need to make sure that because some of us feel like again i'm using i'm pointing a bit we but um there are times where the where it feels a little hectic driving in there and you kind of you're hoping that there's more pso there than not or that they're placed strategically sometimes it's saying well maybe they could be you know we need some people here and there so it's that kind of stuff that you know i think that kind of control and that kind of teamwork working is what i'm that's the thing i want to make sure that can that go as of going forward that we make sure that that's there if the contracts from 96 maybe we need to kind of rethink how some of those decisions are made and that's that's my main concern commissioner that's exactly what i'm talking about in terms of whatever control stuff you're lacking so to speak that needs to be figured out in the contract and discuss one thing i will say just from a scenario from experiences i've had as as a sheriff here in discussions with my team about some of the conflict and control right this is just scenario this is conflict and control we get a bomb threat terminal four right our protocols national-based protocols for responding to a bomb threat in the terminal is for us to do our due diligence and make sure we clear terminal four evacuate safeguard terminals three two and one sometimes and it's been stated in the past why are we can whether it be mark or his support team why are we shutting down terminal four and three and two and one the threat is only in terminal one this is impact revenue streams and businesses we understand that but in this profession if we get that wrong the call taker looked at four but it was actually terminal two and a bomb is detonated in terminal two all of us are going to be sued and paying out not just bsl but so would this county so there's if that's something that you wish to waive and accept that lot put it in contract so i i think what you what you're speaking of is expectations um and what is it what is assumed all those kind of things so they need to be spelled out so everybody's no one's caught off guard everybody understands it ahead of time and you're able to proceed accordingly that's really what it comes down to senator rich thank you mr mayor i'm i'm almost at a loss of what to say here because i i just think that this conversation has not been helpful um it's not helpful in making a decision certainly we're not not ready to make any kind of as far as i can see it appears we need to look at the whole contract we need to look at a lot of things that are going on we need to look at both what was brought to us the other day plus what we're hearing today um and uh i think i think we're a long way from making a decision on anything at this point um and uh i just think there there does need to be more communication so that um we don't come here and have this kind of a conversation because i thought this to be not helpful at all thank you senator commissioner commissioner uh thank you mayor and just a couple of comments first it's not it's just want to um ask everyone to pray for mayor droski from deerfield beach he just lost his mother this morning just want to keep him in our prayers um going back to sheriff what you talked about national protocol you just mentioned that you would do x and x and x would any law enforcement agency whoever it is sitting there would they also follow the national protocol as well i would hope so i think it would be kind of reckless to ignore standard operating procedures that gives you a chance to do your due diligence to safeguard a life i would hope so i mean i would think they would be required to do it just like you are yeah but at the same time commissioner you understand everyone's kind of takes a different approach in how they manage leadership to maybe someone who want to be a little bit more informative and say hey you know mark's a good guy we like mark and we have a good relationship let me sacrifice this one and that might be the one so it depends yeah i guess you can go all the neat type of scenarios but i just as when you mention national protocol i just want to make sure that any law enforcement would be in charge of making sure that they follow that national protocol um the second thing i want to just talk about communication and and i'm saddened to hear that um that miss apiro and sheriff tony is not directly communicating as a ceo of a company and i look to monica's being that and a ceo of a sheriff i think the ceo should talk uh and not have undersheriffs or other folks uh communicate i just think it's not healthy i think a lot of these things can be talked about and and worked with as a communication issue so that's just my personal opinion i'm a ceo of my company and my customers or my vendors want to talk to me directly i want to talk to them because i'm servicing that a client on the current contract that we are today it says that there is no requirement under the contract or how or where bso will staff its posts um that it concerned me came out of the of the um i have two comments that was concerned me but more importantly too is when we talk about overtime and major maybe this is your your field in 2025 there were 15 vacancies i understand attrition and so forth if those vacancies were filled would the overtime go away so commissioner if if those vacancies were filled no the overtime would not go away because currently we're still staffing the tsa checkpoints with outside 15 people i wouldn't be able to staff all the checkpoints seven days a week 20 hours out of a day that's that's not going to that's perfect not going to be able to hear whether it would go down of course i would think the uh overtime would decrease would it not there would be a there would be a decrease in overtime but it wouldn't be eliminated you are correct commissioner if i can add clarity to that sure so while there might be a decrease in overtime and other uh portions of the operation at the airport for staffing it would not be directly correlated to the terminal checkpoints that is a new level of service that was requested and added as of 2021 as a direct impact on the budgetary question that came up at the last commission workshop there's two separate functions this is one of the areas of improvement that we recognized in the contract and we actually brought to the um bcat on our own was the recommendation that we really need to look at this contract and start to isolate more transparently what the request of service is what the staffing complement looks like and how that staffing complement is anticipated to be used for the services at the airport um so i just wanted to clarify that for you it would not have a direct correlation to the overtime as related to the terminal checkpoints that's a new level of service that was added in 2021 without additional staff got it okay great that's only comments i have mayor other than like i said there's under the current contract there's no requirement of how and where we can have a say so with staff and how they post that's my understanding is that's correct sure yes sir for the most part there is dialogue with mark but ultimately when it comes to the logistics assignment that's going to fall to bso again to what degree do you all want to have influence in that but if we're going to go through establish a new contract put that in there and let's figure that out thank you mayor sure sure thank you for your time i uh the one thing is as senator rich said obviously we're not in any position to make any uh decisions but i think it's good that you came here at least we got one thing constructive and we all agree that we need a new contract an updated contract and hopefully we can uh get that work done you know at least moving toward that uh that goal but thank you for your time and if you could leave now so we can talk behind your back i appreciate that thank you thank you very much i'll watch the video later in the sunshine timeline is on that what's what's the timeline on the new on getting a new contract because regardless of what we do on this we need a new contract in place pretty you know relatively quickly commission i think we we let the attorneys give us a projected timeline for a first draft um there's a lot that goes with that is that correct and yeah i mean contracts are built on term sheets so bottom line is once we can put a contract together very quickly we understand what the terms are and we're happy to be sitting at the table with other people to try to facilitate that i would encourage uh the legal team to get your draft to us right because from a partnership standpoint you're asking for more control we need to know what that sounds like as they're working together you understand what i'm saying commissioner well i don't know i mean i don't know as far as the like i'm not i don't want to be the one to say if there's a bomb threat in terminal for what you guys do i want law enforcement to do that but i want what i want to know is i want to know that our because i from what i see here is a lot of this is communication issues i want i want our airport director and their team to explain to you what their needs are clearly one of the needs are on both sides is we need to get out of the overtime game on staffing tsh commissioner commissioner we've already no no no i don't want to let if the sheriff's here i got i got one for you i'm i'm okay with it if we have to i'd if the sheriff's here i'd rather talk to him so we can do this commissioner we we i don't have a problem speaking to the sheriff i can summarize this for you mike we've already sent the first draft i'm sorry i didn't realize that already took place to mark in terms of a sample contract contract element so what we did commissioner to that point is the undersheriff the colonel and myself met with um director gail and his team and in our meeting we had um shared that we felt there was room for improvement in the contract and that we wanted to discuss that possibility and we provided him draft contracts or i'm sorry actual executed contracts for other cities that we partner with to show what a current contract exhibit a exhibit b terminology looks like to serve as a baseline for contractual conversations when we brought that up to mark gail he had shared with us that he felt that he would want to wait for this workshop that happened last week before he continued uh contract discussions with us if it's the will of this uh elected body to direct the county staff to work with us we're very amenable to that um and i just want to say as far as communication we agree and the sheriff expects that of his executive staff um the undersheriff colonel schnackenberg behind me myself we have stepped into these executive roles as of this year and we are very much available to your county staff to our elected uh partners to anyone that you want us to work with we gave our personal cell phones to each of them at that meeting that we requested um as soon as we took these new positions well what i'd like to see is one county commissioner is for you to sit down with mark gail and i would like to see a collaboration between the two of you not that this is what our city contracts and this is what it is real collaboration on what the needs are for the airport i don't know anything about running an airport i don't know anything wrong about bso but what i do know is when there's an incident in the airport i want the flying public to be safe and i want to see that this done in a way that's done properly and like everybody does here and done collaboratively and i don't think that that's been happening you may think it's been happening like beam said you guys all may think you're getting along but i didn't make it up i'm reading from what the report says so when the when they're meeting with the different sides i'm telling you there's a communication issue i don't know where it's coming from but it's in there because it's okay thank you uh did you want monica did you want to did you get though when did you get those contracts um well that meeting that you were referring to lieutenant colonel was the day before last monday it was that meeting was last monday the day before the um the workshop and then i believe we got the contracts a couple days later so we've just gotten them less than a week ago um but we don't need contracts we got we got 60 lawyers we got plenty of legal brain brain and and to draft the contract and and see you know what we were looking absolutely i and if since you asked there are a few things i would like to clarify for the record since the sheriff is here um i'll be very quick mayor um you know a couple of comments that have been made throughout um this time was you know the 50 million passengers and you know the fear of so many folks coming to the airport we're not expected to reach that till well after 2040 the year 2040. so we're not there and i don't expect that we need to be staffed to that level at this time um um you know when when you know commissioner davis you'd mentioned something about um the overtime you're exactly right but the two options that we were given was that they could not and please correct me if i'm wrong bso could not provide um that that service that we were requesting by special detail because it would be voluntary so the two choices that we were given is you staff it voluntarily and you don't know if you're going to have staffing or you do it with overtime so given the two choices that is why that is that model so i want everyone to be clear about that um i'm just to sorry just to say i just think over six year period of overtime we should have already had another solution because if we weren't here today this overtime would continue for the next how many years unless we you know look at the contract or look at a solution to the overtime you just can't say these are the only two choices there's going to be other ways around it i i don't disagree thank you commissioner um and and sheriff you made a comment about that there could be a reduction of overtime but when those analyses were were done those analyses were done um the cost of the deputies to to fund it with a deputy versus the overtime the cost was going to exceed the overtime amount as well as what i have been informed um because of the the model and the cost for the deputies um so while reducing of overtime might happen the cost of the deputies would be far exceeding what any savings we would receive so again i think it's early and we need to have a lot of level of of of conversation and an analysis of the data um which we're happy to do and i will um michael i don't know if you wanted thank you no let's let's listen we have a long way to go with this he came in to just to to make some comments and let's not make this entire day into a debate on we'll talk we have a lot of time to talk and and take it from there thank you sheriff thank you um mr scott are you here today yes there he is monica we want you want to get started now okay guys come on let's go let's get that can everyone please have a seat what where's mr scott mr scott come mr scott grab your seat come on we want to get these we're going to get things moving here monica okay monica you want to start good morning again um today um you're going to uh see we're going to have uh dave mckenzie from office of management budget walk through um some of the slides um for the supervisor of elections um budget request thank you uh supervisor scott for being here with us today after uh mr mckenzie and please if you want to say hello first of course mr mckenzie will walk through the slides that you've received um this past week really quickly and then supervisor scott will answer questions and of course if you have anything else to add thank you yeah good morning everybody thanks for having me appreciate the opportunity to present our proposal for fy27 i'm ready to answer any questions that you all might have um just unfortunately the for the fifth year in a row we have changes in the law that are causing us to have to make some administrative changes to our organization that maybe one day i'll be able to come to one of these meetings and not say that but so far it's been every single time so um you know so i just want to start off with that let you guys know that yes we're anticipating some changes um and we're we're making our plans to be able to implement those changes when they start in january 1st of 2027. mr scott i don't believe we have any questions thank you for your time and we're done okay no go ahead uh good morning mr mayor mr vice mayor uh commissioners supervisor scott uh as monica said i'm david mckenzie from the budget office and i'm here with you this morning to share our review of the fy27 budget proposal for the broward county supervisor of elections i'll start this morning with an overview of the summary totals of the components included in the supervisor's budget proposal and then cover more cover them in detail more on later slides uh the admin and operations proposal is 19.8 million the november 2026 general election is proposed at 16.7 million the march 2027 municipal election proposal is 438 300 and there's a capital request for 220 000 for a total combined budget proposal of 37.2 million looking first at an overview of the administration and operations in fy27 for all items excluding voter list maintenance the supervisor's proposed budget is 18.6 million which is a 7.4 percent increase over the prior year and voter list maintenance costs are proposed at 1.2 million five percent increase which makes the total request for this function 19.8 i've mentioned it's a 7.3 percent over the prior year increase uh looking now at the detail of the proposed changes for the administration operations activities with no new positions being requested this year the salaries will increase by four percent at a cost of three hundred eleven five thousand five hundred dollars and that's due to a planned four percent salary increase for supervisor staff benefits overall will increase by 824 000 which is a 26 26 percent increase uh software maintenance costs will increase 266 000 and that is to assist with network security media and public records requests and for costs related to their new financial system uh equipment maintenance will increase 130 000 500 uh primarily to support election machine maintenance security the supervisor has actually achieved a 180 000 reduction and that's a result of uh efficiencies that they've achieved in managing vendor staffing and hours utilized with their security services and they are also showing a rental equipment decrease uh 14 600 due to some improvements in their overall technology the remaining items are all normal changes and regular activities and the net total of all changes is approximately 1.3 million dollars over the prior year the november 2026 general election request of 16.7 million dollars does not include any expenses for potential recounts and it's based upon a turnout projection of 63 percent which would be an increase over the 2022 november election of 48 percent and slightly less than the turnout we saw in november 24 which was 65 percent the actual expense for the 2022 november general was 12.2 million dollars out of a budget of 12.7 million and in november 2024 the expense was 15 and a half million out of an adopted budget of 16.7 million so i do want to make a quick comment on the turnout percentage so the way we are actually projecting this is we're looking at this election being very similar to 2018 so 2018 um it we think is a better model for what we're likely to see this year and in 2018 the um turnout was 60 so i just wanted to give you guys that note thank you supervisor uh these are the details of that uh november 2026 general election request obviously it funds items like salaries and fringe benefits posted just postage expenses printing costs and other outreach activities uh turning to the march municipal election request there are four municipalities that have notified the soe of their intent to hold elections in march those cities will obviously reimburse the county for 100 of the cost of their elections and if the number of municipalities increases the cost will as well the four cities that are participating at this time are deerfield beach districts one and two miramar pembroke park and sea ranch lakes this is the detail of the 2027 march municipal request and again it includes things like salary and benefits transportation of equipment and supplies postage printing and other professional services the capital equipment request for fy27 will provide for the purchase of a new paper counter as well as server and infrastructure upgrades which are a request to re-budget fy26 appropriation approved by this board that was ultimately used to for unanticipated election equipment needs that have arisen over the course of the year to close the changes included in the supervisors fy27 proposed budget are summarized here the total administration operations budget would increase 7.3 percent from 18.4 million to 19.8 million the capital equipment request decreases by 489 000 the march municipal uh election increases to 438 000 from 353 000 and the statewide elections due to the annual variation that we always have in election cycles would increase by 5.1 million for a total budget request of 37.2 million which is 19 and a half percent over fy26 uh with that the presentation of our review is concluded i would like to thank you for the time thank the supervisor and his staff for their assistance with the information that we presented and i will turn this back over to monaco actually mr mayor we're finished with our portion thank you i'll go around the room again real quick i'm going to just start with one question and then i'll go around the room for mr scott i didn't see anywhere you do you have a it company or company that protects so so if someone tries to break in to your server or break in for your data i assume you have something that that yeah we actually have uh full-time people on staff who are focused on that particular that are focused on security of our network yes okay i i went left to right last time do you want to start we'll go right to left this time doesn't matter just had a couple questions first of all supervisor great to see you and uh hoping those races one of them was miss hall did she get a raise of course you know she's my favorite joe yeah just two quick questions um last year we had issues with the facility we had the ac and the elevator issues are those now taken care of uh so ac has been working pretty well uh elevators continue to be a challenge for us yeah we definitely didn't want to get folks over there to wrap that up we're very connected on this issue okay very good and the only thing is the security decreased by 30 percent tell me why um okay so that i think we were just moving into the building and getting used to the um what security requirements would be so the security is now more centered around elections so some of that security is being built into the election budget whereas before it was on the core so that's part of the reason that you see that big reduction in security yeah i just want to make sure that you have security and then some oh yeah we do yeah but it'll be connected today yeah so the we feel like our security picture needs to change when we're in election season versus when we're out of election season um so we want to make sure that we're um right sizing the security and making sure it's in the right place and making sure it's applied to the right budget so since it is related to the election we put the security on so part of what you see there in terms of the increase there's a lot of different things that um driving the increase in our november election but i would tell you that security's in that that's part of it okay appreciate you thank you good morning good morning still i supported it the raise for you too um i just wanted to ask now i i i'm i'm pretty sure i know the answer but it doesn't say it on this page towards about at the end here the overview the um the municipal elections are total reimbursement by those cities is that correct correct okay so it's not coming out of counties sorry that's good and uh also i just think that your estimate of sixty percent is hopefully i think will be low i hope you'll be prepared i know you will oh you want it you're anticipating a higher number okay yes i keep my hopes up as well if i may clarify on the municipal election senator rich um so it is correctly reimbursed we um cash flow it and so it's on the front end on the county side but when the dollars come back in and that's part of that appropriation and i i feel it's always nice when i see it's only four i wish there were none that had it then that was a bill i had in the legislature many years ago going to the you know moving everybody to the november but not mandating it so but we're almost there um yeah um first of all yeah definitely a raise that's three mary maybe next year we'll add a line to the budget we'll put that as its own we don't know about you joe and that 100 on the security and right sizing you may maybe you ought to run the airport on this we might be able to do that it's gonna work pretty good um i know on the ben on the benefits just just real quick i know this is combination health and uh frs yes how much did frs go up this year do they go up quite a bit uh i'm not sure if they have that speak up all right so currently we're waiting through the budget special session to be concluded the regular frs is nominal um for the employees at soe there is a slight increase with special risk and elected um but it's it's it's nominal okay at this health is that pretty so one thing i'll tell you guys on the health side is that we are a small group and as a small group certain things can happen we actually saw a 33 increase that we did not budget for last time around so part of the reason you see such a huge increase this year is that i think we planned for say 10 last time and then they hit us with 33 mainly because of specific health issues within a very small group of people you know you guys aren't self-insured though no we're not we're we're using uh florida blue oh it's through us no i don't know how this works we just fund their benefits okay so we're our own group and we're a small group relative to um okay you know our shifts can be bigger just based on certain things that might happen throughout the year so you're not getting you're not getting the economies of scale right if we were part of the county yeah um other than that uh i hope you're i do hope we even have a higher turnout but and and maybe be prepared so that's that's what it was in 18 so 18 we had 60 percent if you guys remember that was big what that was like yeah thank you joe two quick comments one i think you and your team do a great job i support your budget thank you mr mayor appreciate that thank you um what i didn't see uh in your proposal is the contract uh for mary hall's 20 more years of service and we negotiated that when we gave her the proclamation a couple weeks ago for 40 years of service so until then i'm not going to support this budget the other thing is um commissioner your dean and i want to make sure that you put portraits up of the uh past and present canvassing boards okay thank you um hi joe hi good morning uh a couple questions first uh miss perro what uh percentage if you we haven't got that far yet but are you expecting our other county agencies to go up down or something i saw that commissioner udian had listed as one of his budget issues that we you know might need to be asking however reasonable the requests from the county constitutional officers are that we need to see how they are in relation to our overall county budget do you know what percentage we don't know just yet but i will tell you that we're going through that process right now um with my agencies um and we have asked them because statutorily for next year um in january we're expecting um a mandatory 10 percent reduction um scenario that has to be provided to the state it's not for the fy 25 27 uh budget but we are doing that exercise this year so um we can get all of our agencies prepared and thinking through that so i have asked each of our agencies for a 10 reduction scenario um and as you know the state legislature is in the throes of the budget and i got some kind of concerning um feedback last night uh late last night on what's possibly happening with the budget discussions and it's not looking um very favorable um and and over the next couple of years significantly uh damaging to our revenue stream okay because um mr scott i i think that your budget is appears to be reasonable i just don't know whether or not the county can afford that or the property appraiser or the tax collector or the sheriff if our funding is going down or is stagnant you know however merited a 7.3 or 7.4 percent increase may be we don't know if the money is there um secondly um with the attempts at voter suppression excuse me i'm sorry i meant um the uh uh uh changes to the voting just for the good of the order that they're doing um is this going to have an effect on postage with the issue uh where you have to apply if you want to vote again where you have to re-register every 12 hours or i'm sorry slight exaggeration but what effect is that going to have on your overall postage budget so yeah so let me give you a little bit more context around this so like i mentioned in my initial remarks you know this is the fifth year in a row that i've come in here and said there's changes to the law that are going to require us to spend more money require more administrative costs in order for us to implement the new law and perform so we're still dealing with some of the fallout and trying to adjust and i think for the most part you see that more than anywhere in the november election budget that we are aiming to do a lot of things one thing is that we realize that fewer people are going to vote by mail because of the efforts that the state has made to make it harder for people to vote by mail but we can make it easier for people to vote early in person by adding more specifically only to november so one adjustment that we're making in order to try to keep our costs lower than they would be is to recognizing that august we only have about 40 percent of the voters in august that we have in november so we need to reduce the number of early voting sites that we have in august versus november so we're looking to have probably 21 early voting sites the plan right now is to have 21 early voting sites in august and then 29 or 30 we're still working on possible number 30 for november so we'll have even more early voting sites than we've ever had before more communication to make sure that the public is aware that these early voting sites are there and that they can vote anywhere in the county they can vote close to where they work not necessarily have to vote close to where they live on election day um and of course the the unknown the big unknown right now is how will the state um create rules around this new law that they passed um that is um voter id the knockoff uh the knockoff version of the save act the florida's uh florida's version of the save act um that is scheduled to go into effect on january 1st and will lead us to um have to put some sort of a system in place to um to have the records but we don't know at this point what the state's going to require from us in terms of maintaining records of um everybody's citizenship documents which is something that was you know previously um more of a dhsmb function than than us okay um two quick last questions first um is there any i mean while i'm telling you to keep spending down is there anything else that you believe that you need that would help improve turnout i i love that idea what you're doing on increasing the early voting locations is there anything else that you haven't asked us for that you need that you think would help increase the turnout no i think it's all there because you know we're planning to do a lot more communication doing morally voting obviously we're going to keep our security posture where it needs to be preparing for possible changes this will be our first election our first major election since the law changed around open carry um so you know we have to be prepared for that as well um so there's a lot of things that are big question marks new things that we haven't encountered in the past and a lot of what you see in this budget increase is us trying to be prepared for whatever could come and without knowing exactly what you know unlike some i know other departments can do better planning because they kind of have a better idea of what's happening in the next 12 months but for us there's just a lot of question marks there's a lot of legal challenges happening you know certain things like redrawing our districts is still sort of on hold right now waiting for a decision from a judge and then we'll have to quickly implement if you know depending on which way it goes um and then it'll probably be the same thing with this save act um situation in january where it'll probably come right down to the wire with legal challenges and then we may have to quickly implement some kind of new system um you know based on what the state uh requires us to do last question you mentioned and monica this is also to you or or mike or whoever um you said you all have your own benefits uh would it monica would it be cheaper or more expensive if they were rolled into ours and can the two of you chat about doing that if it would be cheaper for you the county has an incredible set of benefits uh you know might be better for your employees and if it's cheaper it's something that we should certainly examine if you'd be willing to so it would be certainly up to uh supervisor scott um we'd be open to having those conversations immediately i you know um over the last probably five or six years i think we've had that conversation at this level um and it's been you know suggested by um mission normally brings it up yep and um and and it's also other centralized type of activities as well but we're open to those conversations if the supervisors supervisor i would ask you to work yes i'm open to it we did look at it before and i think when we looked at it before we kind of came to the conclusion that it wasn't necessarily worth it but i'm open to looking at it again i think that was before you know last year was probably the biggest increase we saw um with the 33 increase that we were here with last year um so definitely something i think would be a good time for us to revisit thank you sir and we did do an analysis um uh internally with our our finance administrative services department a couple of years ago and it was pretty comparable and i think that's why um the supervisor you know elected to just kind of keep it the same way but given the cost escalations on your side and we certainly have some too but we're in the 22 range so it's a little bit less so perhaps it might be something to explore thank you my only comments are that on in the proposed changes over fiscal year 26 obviously the salary and benefits component our budget staff i know they usually bring us back these questions and answers in the future uh we're not the raises should be comparable along the lines of what we're going to do with county employees i know that's the way it always has been in the past so we should make sure that we continue to do that i mean i don't know where we get as commissioner geller you'll have to look at that because the group insurance an increase of 28 percent and retirement of 37 percent i don't we're not going to be able to do that for our employees so we need to make sure that we're doing that consistent along the line so that's my only comment there the rest of the budget is fine as far as capital and this and that the november 2026 election um i'd like to see if we're going to base the turnout numbers on 2018 and i understand why you're doing that 2012 2020 wait what are we in 2022 the actual expense was 12.7 we're now going up by four million dollars so we're going up by four over four million dollars i'd love to see when we get our questions and answers what the overall spend was for 2018 if we're going to compare all those numbers and let's see what type of increases we have there um i obviously i'd like to see that number come down a little bit if possible a 25 increase um i know we're looking for a higher turnout but we're not going to get to 64.8 percent and i don't think the november 22 or the november 26 election should be more than what the november general election in 2024 was so i'd like to look at those numbers um other than that i'm good thank you um certainly appreciate um uh the presentation oh i guess one of the questions i had um i know you specified the four cities that are doing their elections in march and the cost there but for those that do their elections in november they do pay a cost as well correct uh significantly less than the ones who have election in march so that's also reimbursable what do you mean by reimbursable right the managers the county administrator mentioned that they pay up front oh no so the um the cities do get invoiced and they do pay uh fees for having their elections whenever the cities do have their elections there is a fee that's charged and they do get invoiced and they do pay so do you have that in your budget in the presentation it's not in this presentation but i'm assuming it's in your major so for the money that comes in is not money that we are allowed to use so whatever money is um whatever whatever money comes in we actually return to the county so it doesn't it doesn't really become part of our budget because we don't use it we don't spend it it's just okay yeah so it's not really reflected in your budget it doesn't affect our budget no okay and then um in terms of if if there are for example some cities may have specific questions for their own residents how is that affected if they have these amendments so i forget what you call them do they pay separately for those so that is actually where the november charges are applied is when they have the ballot questions and it's based on you know the number of pages that they end up using or the number of sheets of paper basically that are added to the ballot based on their how many questions they put on the ballot so do you have any idea as to who's doing that when you do your budget or you don't generally some cities have told us but the deadline to let us know has not passed so other cities could come so as of now there are a couple of cities that i'm aware of that plan to put um a question on but the deadline is um isn't until the first day of qualifying so they have time okay perfect and then um i do know for ember pines for example they're looking to i don't know how that process works to move their elections from march to november have you correct that's one of the cities i'm aware of putting this planning to put a ballot question on yes okay so that's probably what it is all right but other than that thank you for answering the questions i'm okay with your budget as is thank you thank you um i do want to just give a quick note about one of our budget lines so the line on retirement is um so our retirement benefits are actually built into the benefits what we actually do and probably something we do because we're a small agency is that we try to anticipate if somebody is preparing somebody from the office is going to retire and a lot of times when somebody retires it ends up becoming a uh you know a payout and i think probably because we're a small agency and our budget is um a little bit smaller than other other agencies that this ends up being a pretty you know big budget line for us when individuals actually retire and leave and leave and the amount of money that ends up having to be um you know um spent on that thank you mr mayor and let me say great presentation as always but i'm going to go to the minor and explain a little bit about your early voting helpers and how you go through that process and how the community would know that you're looking for helpers during that period absolutely um it's good uh so basically we do you know try to put the word out and try to communicate through different groups through different organizations we actually do a quarterly neighborhood partnership meeting where we um the goal there is to connect with civic groups from across the county and have people from those civic groups who then take the information back to their organizations and that's a good way that we actually try to get the word out and try to identify you know the the people who are you know sometimes more civically minded who have a little bit extra time on their hands that can come and work um while a lot of people for election day are just looking for that one day the people who are working early voting we need them for two weeks so it tends to be a little bit um we tend to be a little bit more reliant on you know um the uh the retired population uh because we need people who aren't who don't have a regular job to come and work for us for two weeks um so that's basically how we how we do that okay um as you look to this election and we're not supposed to do anything in certain languages like it has always been done share with me how you're going to get that information out to the community without uh educational information because i know we have to be careful i'm not currently tracking any requirements to change our language practices so we have in the past we've done english spanish and haitian creole and the plan as of today is to continue that unless unless there's something i'm not aware of but i don't um yeah we have we don't have any plans right now to change our language um the way that we post on social media we post in three languages um and we do a lot of our advertising in three languages we have the ballot will be in three languages so as of today i haven't seen any requirement to change that okay now as you communicate with cities and you're doing their elections and all of that who prepares the invoice to the cities our finance department does your your office is responsible for that and when the funds come in it comes to you or to the county so it comes to us and we are required to return it to the county okay we are not able to access those funds our budget is you know what we spend and what we spend is provided by the county what we bring in as revenue has to be returned to the county okay and i did tell what um commissioner you dean reference as it relates to salaries you know we we are part of the same government same tax base and we're trying to not have folks running over to you because you're doing a little bit more than we are doing on the county side we're not in competition always a pleasure yeah and i would say both ways too because um you know i think that we should try to make the you know the um compensation the same i would agree with that so um you know we would you know whatever the county does decide to give to their employees in terms of an increase or bonuses or things like that that we would appreciate to have the exact same opportunity since you guys are funding us um you know there have been times in the past where we've seen a difference there and we would prefer you know we definitely don't we like you said we don't want this to be a competitive thing of course our employees are going to know what the county employees get and you know i i hear about it immediately um when when the county employees get something that that our employees don't get i think we're done we're i think we're done everyone's done okay great thank you joe thank you thank you thank you good job contract to me um so let me just tell you about our our lunch um based on conversations i've had with you guys uh we from last week we're only doing we have chicken marsala and salad but on the others we have sandwiches we have tuna chicken salad turkey sandwiches so whatever you guys let's grab some lunch and uh let's grab some lunch and continue you you've never no one from your staff has ever said that you want a ham sandwich would have gotten it for you if you said it commissioner fisher's ready lamar i'm going to go through this real quickly with you i'm going to go through this real quickly no no you'll see what i'm saying okay um i wanted to explain to everybody uh i'm going to try to do something a little different today and make it so it's a little uh efficient and time-wise um we everybody should have this and please if you could take a quick look it starts with number one and it goes all the way to number uh you keep if you keep scrolling it goes to number 44. second to last page 44. why didn't they just do one page of just numbers one through because it's our presentation but it's all right then why don't you do it because you're telling me thank you thank you well i'm going to explain it all right so i'm going to each commissioner if you could just briefly go through you know what you're asking for okay we're all going to briefly go through it and then we're going to start again and say look you might look at a number and say oh yeah i didn't think of number three animal care i'm i'm gonna put down number three i i i will because council we're just looking for um we're not voting obviously but she's looking for some type of uh guidance and and so if there's a majority of commissioners that like us something you know then uh you're going to move forward with it and if there's not a majority of commissioners just so everybody knows then she's not going to move forward with it in my recommended budget in the recommended budget so just again like for example i have three items in in for district two and i'm just going to first talk about my three items take a minute and then when we're done i'm going to come back and say uh besides my three items i want i i like the item number five 23 whatever it is that somebody else may talk about and so um you'll keep track of how many people here are because it's not about it's not about or against it you have to have consensus from the commissioners to make sure everyone understands all right let's so we'll start um uh who wants to start first which side and if i may really quickly mr man i just want to make sure everyone sees the we have it here like this um but it's in our packet it is there as well um and the reason you have separate pages and just so the commissioners understand just like in past years we have them grouped by the five goal themes that's the only reason why the numbers are that way it's not any priorities or anything like that so commissioner rogers do you want to just start real quickly with um with your uh what what you're seeking though you just uh you're just hold on give us the number we just got it it's the same exact information i know everybody's going to be talking about oh these 49 are going to be talked about right now as we go around they're so where's your sheet where's your do you have a sheet of your own i'm still trying to figure out what i have in front of me okay this is your sheet so and these numbers correlate to what you want right okay so everybody's got numbers i'm 14 and you may say i don't like i i don't support this bogan i don't support this so i don't support any of those that's fine so you just won't say to monica when we come back around what you're supporting okay that's all and and vice mayor you want me to start exactly the same okay i'm going to start walk you through i i'm going to start okay my priorities number 14 is housing affordable housing i like uh uh the county to focus on priorities is 40 is affordable housing um number 41 i have is resilience plan um we already started that so i don't i could take it off we could get rid of 41 because we we did that at one of our commission meetings and and and then i've also put down here that if the uh ballot matter fails i wanted to keep it alive whether it's half a million a million 100 000 whatever it is i don't care it says a million on here but it doesn't need to be it would just keep it alive so um those are my three items i don't think i need to sit here for 20 minutes and go over them and and bore you that's it and so what were the numbers uh mr mayor you had 41 well my 41 i got rid of because we already did resilience we did that at the last uh we did 20 million dollars we all voted on that with with dr gerardo um my two items and like 14 i think will be supporting what nan rich is going to be saying affordable housing and number 33 is the preventative tests that we have at cleveland clinic um if only if the ballot thing fails and um that's 33 um that's it for me i'm done mr mayor if it might be helpful we didn't want to confuse anyone um last night you and i spoke about these numbers would it be helpful if everyone in addition to their own individual got them by district also so as you were discussing it they can all see them the three all on one sheet you have no idea what you're saying all right why don't you pass those out they get all of our sheets too yes they'll so instead of just in the format that's here when you're speaking they can look at your one page so they're passing that out right now i would assume that was passed okay it's not been passed out well because what was passed out was exactly what these uh in the format of the um presentation i got this already yep you've got yours that might be helpful so okay so we're gonna pretend to start again i'm doing it in 60 seconds i it's been on a clock for like seven minutes i know this is ready it's already 12 10 after 12 you don't need to say any more okay so i'm gonna pretend to start again i'm on the second page district district two district two second page if i could have 60 seconds my last thing 41 get rid of it my first thing affordable housing so if you guys support affordable housing for the next year's budget you want to mention either 14 or i'm not sure if nan is a different number mr mayor i thought we were just going like you're doing yours and then everyone's just doing theirs right now you said you're on number district two i'm i'm district two that's my district i'm just sorry i'm confused myself okay i it's not how it's yeah so i'm just going and i'm gonna it shouldn't take more than 60 seconds this page and i'm done so i've already talked about the affordable housing so they're now recording what i'm saying okay bogans for affordable housing and um and my weird thing is the uh if the ballot thing doesn't fail i wanted to keep it alive with something and that's it that's 33 and now i'll go to commissioner rogers you district nine so we're going to flip the district nine page okay making it easy and i was very if you can see i went boldly with my axe and i say you went crazy it's okay you axe and you move on okay so human services i'm always focused on housing for seniors what we can do to help we know we have coast to coast legal and aid and food insecurity is major problem and crisis right now so i put that in it taking care of our children leveraging joint resources with our school board to explore partnership to repurpose and under use clothes you know just different things that we can do with the school board because we are dealing with the same population commissioner sorry to interrupt you but am i talking too much no no i'm sorry to interrupt you but i'm going to help you for a second if you don't mind go ahead admin i think i think a disservice was done in this in this thing so she's asking coast to coast could be a separate item okay and a homeless prevention could be a separate item um and food insecurity could be another separate you you combined them all into one item so let me explain this real quickly what we did was take the request as it was submitted by each commissioner the way they wanted to propose it and to describe it so we didn't take our own judgment and try to segregate out or analyze that we were being respectful to each of the commissioners the way they wanted it presented and mayor i i agree with what you're saying i could have made it easier on the ice if i want to support coast to coast but i don't want to support something else in there and this is a category human services right okay and i just named the ones that i thought we should be looking at i can you know we can break it out the next time you see it will be the same total but i'll divide it up amongst all of the my intent so we go to housing expanding pathway to home ownership you know i'm focused there um minor home repair programs focus also on supporting initiatives that stabilize neighborhood and help residents retain their homes home ownership option you should not have to go to foreclosure and become a homeless and we need to monitor that and i recognize when i ask the question do we know how many foreclosures we have no one could tell me so how do you manage something how do you prepare if you don't even know how many foreclosures that we have then economic development and we're talking about stem program the workforce i know there's a request in at tallahassee and i'm monitoring that for the airport so we can do that project with barrington irving and others who are doing stem programs and i've been talking about that and looking forward to that program healthy communities okay parks and recs the different things that we do and i'm also i'm being very i'm going to state we are asking for a million dollars and i'm telling you why we believe and i believe and the communities believe and you will see that emphasized through in this world cup games that are going to be held in our cities locally and how it benefits our communities and the events that cities do do create economic development in the communities and it bring tourists here to our communities we have not just we have not been monitoring anything beyond what's on the coastal in the coastal communities we need to make sure we look at the cities and what they're doing to bring tourists here also so it's not just asking for dollars we are putting money into the system as municipalities and that's why we're asking for funding for those type of event that brings tourists here into our communities and supporting these type of events throughout whenever they're here those international event those type of events that's what we're talking about international event like when we did the cricket like when we do netball like when we do um soccer all right those type of international events and others that i went unnamed in my request but it will cover those type of events thank you mr davis the district number please district excuse me district seven um the top uh under the human service category a broward county youth commission i i would like to see us engage our youth a little more and this has been done successfully in miami dade county they have a youth commission and this would be some startup funding that would be needed many of them would go for example as a youth arm to tallahassee talk about things that affect the youth which you know will be different from an adult an adult perspective most cities do have youth advisory councils and i know in the city of miramar we had not just a youth advisory we had a teen advisory council and so i think it's important that we look to see how we can engage the next generation uh housing supporting housing under 70 units in the past there was five million allocated last year meaning this year there was no money allocated for small scale housing projects under 70 units in addition first lesson security rental assistance and it's it's important that even when you do affordable housing and it's mainly rental folks have a hard time coming up with first lesson security i think it's important that we take a look at how we can assist people to actually get into these rental units and so again there's cities that are using this technique where they assist people with first lesson security that way they can at least they know they can pay the rent but coming up with a lump sum is sometimes challenging for for families fitzies continuing to expand and do the things that they need to do we believe in that program um and i would like to see an additional 25 000 given to hopefully have it expand more than it did even last year and hopefully to get some assistance when it comes to marketing the program and outreach economic development again sign and facade improvements now i know there are cras and they have all been you know they're coming to a close but there are many cities that were not able to get into the cra program and these parts many parts of these cities are blighted and they're old and a lot of times the the small business owner they have no control obviously over the facade because they own the facade is owned by the property owner but at least in terms of their signage and visibility i think it's important that we support them many cities have programs and there's a few that don't um and they're pretty much if they are promoted the way they should they really help with areas that are older and need support which don't have cra money youth scholarship funding most students they call my office parents asking do you have scholarship money um it's very difficult now bless you and parents are looking for support and i think as a county it would be good for us to have a scholarship program where students can apply and um based on whatever criteria again this is not something that's new just that i haven't seen it in the county where we can have scholarship funding for students especially those whether they're going to college or trade school um it is a burden on parents especially now cultural supporting sponsorship grant money uh to a tune of 25 per each commission district that is an item that's going to come back before you but i wanted to ensure if that passes that there is that additional funding in the control division safe house program initiative that's something that is being discussed among the fire firefighters throughout the county and we're hoping that we can get buy-in from the various cities that have fire services to provide a safe house for mainly women who are being affected by um uh domestic violence as well as uh anybody uh running from human trafficking to provide for this safe house program at fire stations and that's it thank you uh you know commissioner you dean before we start with you um you've had so many requests for money i uh please if you could keep if you keep it to a short time i will um can i ask a question uh i'm district three proudly representing the cities of tamarack parkland coral springs north lauderdale but then on social media please at michael you dean who are budget people just one question we'll we'll generate more ad valorem revenue this year than last year we are expected to generate uh more dollars than last year okay and our population in broward this year is the first time we're going to see a decrease in population correct um that i don't know actually we are okay i just saw something that we pushed over two million so that was increased but from beaver from the university of florida um bureau of economic and will we're down we're down we flatlined last year and now we're down a few hundred according to some of the reports that are coming out in broward population um it's off of uh the census it's off of a couple articles that county is starting to see a migration shift the number one thing is people are leaving broward and they're heading north we have international immigration but we're losing in residents that are coming into broward county i just say that as a basis for why i made my extensive budget requests i support everything on everybody's budget requests that they asked for you can put me as a check mark and i support nothing on everybody's budget requests that they asked for you could put that on a check mark until and unless county administration does a complete review of the budget and figures out a way to lower the cost to the residents uh to lower the millage rate to lower the amount of unfilled positions we have um on staff like kind of like what you did last year i want to see that same thing happen again this year um sheriff tony mentioned something which i don't agree with what he said before he said that the you know there's some kind of fiscal fire going on right now there's not a fiscal fire we have more money this year than we had last year we had more money last year than the year before well if tallahassee let's see what they do in the future but at the end of the day they're going to do what they're going to do um i believe that we need to give our residents relief i believe we need to give tax reduction i'm willing to talk about everybody saying i love i love having some dollars in there for healthy broward on affordable housing i believe that um i'm okay with the funding level i didn't exactly put it in there like that in my request but what i do believe in affordable housing is we should not be funding developers profits for mid-level affordable housing whatever that range is near the mid and the top i'm okay with funding for the lowest of the low when we have to come in with gap finance but this missing middle is being taken care of very comfortably by the private sector i don't know what the words are called i don't know what the rationale are but the actual when we talk about affordable housing for the working class on the higher end of the scale that's being covered by what's done and live local and with the and with the uh units that are there on the lower end i'm with you i agree um that's why i voted every time for the lower end dollars for affordable housing because they need to help to get those projects through i continue to support those um and those are my comments senator gillard maybe keep it to keep it nah um the first okay first there's a uh philosophical issue are we supposed as county commissioners supposed to be putting money in for our cities or for county-wide issues i have traditionally and again i'm this time in pushing well this time exclusively but always primarily for county-wide issues um item 22 district five the one that's up there thank you um right yonder um the um uh all all of my requests are basically for economic development uh and i'm going to ask that one of them be moved the first is the marine research hub you know i continue to believe that we have growing income inequality in this country and i want to combat that by helping to create more high-paying jobs one of the ways of doing that is the marine research hub uh they have um they've submitted i believe a detailed proposal to try and bring additional high-paid jobs to brown to south florida but primarily to broward because they're located in broward um by uh working with the universities to um uh to uh take the research at the universities most people don't realize that uh if you look at dade broward palm beach actually if you include monroe and up to st lucy counties we have the highest concentration of university-based marine research in the united states but we're not commercializing it and we need to commercialize that and bring more high-pay jobs to the broward county i would ask since it i put in the request for 1.5 million over three years since we can't bind in the future just if you can change that to 500 000 for this year because that's all that really we can ask for um um under cultural 27 29 that's just keep items that already in the budget there so i know those are not increases i've requested that you keep the money that's already in the budget for the west broward cultural center continue the money that's currently in the budget for the cultural division um the coca-cola building which i believe is in commissioner mckenzie's district but could be in commissioner fisher's district okay it's in downtown fort waterdale it's on it's on the i don't know which side of the street okay um but if there is money available that would be one-time money to help buy that building and retrofit it as the new headquarters for the cultural division and the last thing and the only big ask there is on film and i wanted to briefly discuss that um again creating high-paying jobs the average job in the film industry statewide now is 107 000 meaning in south florida it's higher than that um as a result of the what's been happening in the film commission and since we started our incentive program the numbers have gone up dramatically um the this year they hired 16 000 212 people through directly through uh programs that ran through the film commission the biggest number there is the fiscal impact the fiscal spend this year was 207.3 million was spent from the films that we're producing here and the problem is we're a victim of our own success um we had funded it with 10 million dollars originally and over the last year or two there have been a lot of projects that have signed now where we will have exhausted the 10 million dollars that went in three or four years ago there are several um like many of you may have seen rj decker it's a tv series set in fort waterdale then most of their filming in north carolina but has done enough in broward county to get the partial projects program there's a series mia which was shooting in miami um i think it just premiered like last week i think it premiered in miami they have uh they will apply to move to broward if the incentive if we continue our incentive program at the same level uh boca and harbormaster are two high level studio comedies but again because we've been doing so so well and so successful we're about to run out of money or we have run out of money so i'm asking for five million dollars uh to renew the program an additional five million not to be spent but to have in reserve again and these high ones require the direct sign off of the county administrator uh not just staff at the county administrator has to sign off on these large incentives personally to ensure that they are doing what they're supposed to be doing they're bringing a lot of jobs to south florida particularly our incentives are only for shooting in broward county they're bringing a lot of jobs to broward county and that's what i think i'm supporting is bringing high-paid jobs to broward 207 million is a lot of money thank you mr mayor thank you place mayor oh district 8 unique district this is as many pages as we have left behind uh a community and i've been saying this since arriving to this day as i've said it at fort lauderdale but uh senator geller and myself we represent uh the bmsd um he has one portion i have four other portions of it and what's interesting in the dynamics of these these pockets is when you look contiguously to them if it's his to the west you see plantation a great city but yet still haven't grasped the concept of accepting um broadview and it's been years you look at me it's the east victoria park which had ran down had been run down to slum and blight at one time people didn't want to be there they moved out and now it's the number one property tax uh in the county what i'm proposing some of you were taken aback that was uh so detailed and so large um in terms of uh the report but it's the same information you've been receiving for years and years and years the data that was collected is the same data we use to to fund our grant programs it's that three three three one one zip code it's those areas that have been redlined and left behind in the past and the numbers that i presented aren't striking numbers compared to some of the things that we heard from others but you all know your districts you have your hand on the pulse but if you look at the excerpt that was given here today for district eight you all have in front of you are these priorities of commissioner mckenzie or are these just basic needs of a community 31 cities the 32nd is unincorporated and i'm asking for an improvement at a park i'm asking for more money for unsafe structures one of the structures has been sitting here falling apart for at least 30 years that i know four years i've been sitting here talking about this very same building it's a basic service three weeks ago the roof fell down partially on the ground but you heard me talk about this building before and the harrison house before that it wasn't that code enforcement was doing what they needed to do we should have just gone a step further but we finally got the harrison house torn down but it took a bus ride of 20 people monica to see what i see every day to see what senator geller sees in these unincorporated areas i'm not the administrator i'm not the co-director i'm not the police i'm not any of those things i'm a policy maker but you think this is my priority or is this a basic need of services long neglected and i'm taking my time because time time is leaving me four years four years we put a dent in it but we know where we need to be my priorities are just like the rest of the folks up here affordable housing public safety resiliency you know i'm with that that's the collective effort but these are my priorities in my district it's not my problem look at what's on my list we're asking for basic services if you add the dollar amount it's really nothing and you go back to the policing and we're asking for 1.4 billion dollars for this tactical team that the sheriff developed when i asked him those questions last time he went off the rails and he told me they don't police the way they used to they don't jump out of cars and beat people i didn't ask him to jump out of a car and beat people i asked him for the same thing you asked for in parkland same thing you asked for a lot of their lakes the same basic services a call for services two and a half years later they came up with a tactical team and for about 30 to 45 days i came back and i gave him kudos and praises for it they were on target they hit every target the last three or four months the two officers are still sitting there but i don't see the level of service that we once rendered once i made the public comments so again today i tried to ask you know um about this communication or lack thereof and he got a little upset with me but that's fine i represent district i represent this county and sometimes you have to make difficult decisions as you all know but i'm asking for policing here policing it's not a priority i shouldn't be asking 1.4 billion dollars to add two more officers to drill down on this this specific ask and we're talking about an airport and a seaport and moving in different directions so we can have control by statute state statute whether we have money in this revenue neutral area everybody likes to call or call it or refer to it as he's obligated we had not one dollar to provide the services in there according to the state statute not brown county state statute but this is part of my priorities today basic services the laws or the orders is on the book monica for unsafe structures it's one building it's still sitting there and i know your staff has been trying but why is this particular building granted allowances to be in such disarray um on a main corridor that we have put millions of dollars into before i got here and we continue to do now that i'm here it's sitting this same owner if i'm mistaken correct me if i'm wrong received two of our facelift of facade grants we should have started here and now we're going to put money into helping him demo his building these are the things that i think commissioner your dean often talks about this here's a person that can afford to do it he's on a lot that's not even buildable if we tore it down we could put nothing there there's no parking there's nothing it was a non-conforming use when i was a kid and if that use is not being utilized once it's closed for six months it goes away these are basic services i'm asking for today and all the uh things that we talked about collectively last year i'm still on board with i like i would like to see that as we move forward in this governmental center that we uh we have embarked upon i still want to i'm not gonna say i still want to i'm serious about moving forward with that i know we're moving um and i've seen several um attempts of opportunities to to distract or look at other options if you will um but we've already invested a lot of money a lot of time and it's time that we get out of this 50 60 year old building that was 30 years old when we purchased it and repurposed it and not so much me the commission back then had enough uh forethought and vision of the future and that's what we're here for today to get this moving forward we bought the gore site um staff has been working on it uh the last presentation i got i was very very much satisfied about it but i want to see it move forward and as i close i've been talking about culture and harold looks here and this is not to take anything away from phil dunlap he he leaves it all on the field but here again today um we're putting more and more money into culture but we don't even know what the definition of culture is based on webster's dictionary and culture is just that if i'm jewish it's a jewish culture culture if i'm polish it's a polish culture um and so on and so on so scottish that's what i am yeah yeah you think polish it's okay him or me okay i'm polish but when i ask but we ask for things is viewed differently and it doesn't meet that definition maybe we need to expand our definition of what culture really is and it's what you the commissioners of these nine districts see and deem necessary none of you including the one that shares bmsd are asking for the basic services i'm asking for today but yet when i ask for an event an opportunity for a cultural thing it's so hard in terms of getting the consensus just do that based on definitions i'm often told by the attorneys and uh administration that no you can do um you guys can do whatever you want to do commissioner but we have to get a consensus but we got to be sensitive of how those things look and get things going you've been to many many many cultural events in my district and they are just as worthy as any other commissioner dean but if they went to visit lauderdale if they went to culture they got to meet a certain standard or smell test if you will and i think we got to look at that i know we're doing some things um i'm still not satisfied with visit lauderdale nor the leadership but i have to say this publicly because we all get to govern on that together and i think we're going to move in the right direction but we got to move sooner because this town is growing it's growing and we got to expand how we look at the lenses or the lens of culture and just because it works on the east side doesn't mean it won't work on the west side south side or the north side it should just work on all sides and those are the areas that i want to keep moving forward but if you think basic services are my priorities and last but not least we've been talking about these five pockets that share infrastructure of water basic water is given to them through fort lauderdale they don't get the vote on the increases of the rates of what goes on with water but yet still when they turn on their spigots fort lauderdale is charging them we've asked monica's staff has asked that we address this and the city said no i think we can do a deeper dive drew maybe you can help me get there maybe we need to sue fort lauderdale i don't know how this works but the increases in fort lauderdale water is astronomical and the broward county residents the unincorporated are paying with no representation so i don't want this to go i want us to make it a priority and it's not my priority it's a basic need for services so my priorities you i don't really change what i asked for i just keep checking it off checking it off checking it off until they all have been checked thank you mr fur thank you very much um the other day i had a chance to go to the animal shelter and their volunteer district six district six sorry uh district six and i met some of the uh people there that were in the animal advisory on the animal advisory board and they felt that they needed about two million dollars a year for five years to get caught up with how many tnr um surgeries needed to happen so that we didn't have a uh too many cats and dogs um what i didn't know was how that was funded and i had no idea and the for when when we're registering a dog or a cat 25 bucks 21 of that goes into the general fund four dollars goes to the surgeries and those kind of things um until you get to the first hundred thousand tags uh after that um i think it's fully funded is that right okay so this is something we may want to look at and i know you know i don't want to take much out of the general fund but we may want to find some kind of compromise there and take a little bit more the thing because i know mr melton you had brought this forth a couple years ago that if we if we were selling a lot of tags it would pay for a lot of this that hasn't come to pass but we're not we're not letting people know the nexus between what when they pay their registration for their for their dog or their cat we we're not letting them know hey this is helping the entire um dog and cat population your registration is doing this and if we were able to do that if we were able to make that connection i think we'd be doing a lot better but we can't say it with a safe with a straight face that your registration is going to help you know all all of the dogs and cats so anyway uh that's something i think that it would be worth i see mr fisher and i think everybody got it got a letter from the animal advisory so just something i think that we might be able to look at um the next the next one on here is the hollywood north beach main parking lot uh this is actually a revenue generator um this is the it's a huge parking lot down on the beach in hollywood um that really needs a lot of care this is where a lot of visitors go um not too far away from the port people that stand over they use this parking lot and uh i don't know and dan probably could give us some um ideas of what the payback period is not right now but um it's you know i know this has been on the list for a couple a couple years and it keeps getting kind of put back but it's starting to look a little ragged so it's you know it's not a good it's not a good look for our county if that's a county parking lot and it is one that like i said should bring in a sizable amount of money next one is the underwater broward with xavier cortado this has been helping our resilient department spread the word on the the resiliency plan and they go to almost all the schools this is a huge outreach effort uh throughout the county i'd like to see that continue they've been uh working through all the schools and really bringing all the uh students up to date on all the things we're doing and all the things uh resilient the next one is one i think we've already taken care of that's the same 41 the resiliency plan yep 42 is an interesting one because it is the end and i know you all have gotten a million emails on this i've got literally gotten a thousand over a thousand emails report into your somewhere they're coming from everywhere this has to do with the mangroves um and they they are willing to sell but they i'm afraid they're going to ask too much or swap and what i what i don't know what that kind of cost is going to be i do think that this is a future investment for the county i know from the resilient department they're saying that the drainage from the airport and the port is slightly below this but it doesn't my feeling is if you have a lot of drainage going in there then you that's going to swell upwards and going into we'd have you'd have some flooding issues we all saw what happened at the airport we've you know we've seen we don't want to see that again um so this is more of a uh future drainage use that i think it's uh there's a lot of water that goes down through there down into the dania beach canal and out into the ocean so it's one of those that i think is just being you know it's it's all conservation land there it's surrounded by broward broward county owns all the land around there unfortunately nova offered this to us a few years ago we should have bought it i don't know why we didn't buy it i i don't think we ever heard about it or we heard without this well no not this this is eight years eight or nine years ago well 2017 2018 um no this would require it's still you know it's still sizable amount of money one that i think we all would have to approve and then and and then lastly uh dealing with solid waste i know with uh biosolids um these you know i know we're close to getting um consensus with all the different cities and wastewater treatment plants um sooner the better because that place has got that stuff's got nowhere to go according to and i think uh given what's happening on the state they're not going to allow us to land out apply any of that so this this needs to actually be under the urgency um something urgent i i don't even i don't even know what the cost is on it other than it's a lot but this is something that the entire county uh has to get a handle on as soon as possible now i didn't the one thing i didn't put on in here does have to do with the solid waste authority and i should have put it in here but but i didn't know i don't really know how to do that um it has to do with if we at the broward county landfill not the monarch landfill but the broward county landfill if we're going to stand up a yard waste facility um we're gonna we're gonna need to figure out how to do that i don't know what those costs are i know we've had some consultants look at it but the um the idea is most of the yard waste would come to our landfill and then in categories it would probably be going back to the cities um but that's one that um i'm not sure i know we've like i said i know we've done studies on that i don't know when x other than we're we're going to be trying to have all the rfps for all the waste streams done and out by this you know almost by this time next year um actually no by the by the end of this year and so there's so this emergency there as well and that's all thanks so rich okay okay what i've done here is i've added the ones that i support from others that i want to mention as well as the three that i have here um we're done and i also yeah thank you and i also think um monica that i would at some point like have ralph i don't know if it's today explain or talk about some of the issues here with regard to to monies that have been asked for for um different types of affordable housing because you know one of one of the things that i i think is important to note is that there is um there are 15 entitlement cities in addition to us that receive money and um the the cities need to use uh we need to look at this and see because the cities need to be using the money um and not the county funding things where the entitlement is coming into the cities so that we can spend ours on um as i have here the first one uh the second one here is um affordable housing which is continuing the 90 of expired cra's um and also um uh definitely no reduction in affordable housing and i just want to say that um uh um i i i do disagree with with uh commissioner eugene i i i don't see there is a change in population but there's not really a reduction in population i mean there are some people that are moving out moving out of the out of the state and that kind of thing but um you know one of the things that is interesting is the you know you talk about live local um live local is is is a a two-edged sword here it's it's it's some good things but it's also some bad things and one of the things that's bad right now is if you're looking at the project that we discussed the other day in hollywood okay right now they're looking at there's a bill that the governor is signing that is going to throw it right into live local and let me just say that yes there's some affordable housing but we have moved uh to 90 we've moved from 30 percent to 30 years to 50 and now a lot of our projects are 99 years this one would only be 30 years and before you turn around from 30 years you know it goes to market rate so there there are a lot of issues that have to be looked at with this and i think we need to make sure that we keep the money available we are we are a model for the state and there's just a reason it's what we're doing and a lot of that credit goes to off stone is sitting right there um but that's my my number one the second one would be homeless with housing um i just want to mention we've talked the last couple of years about a hotel um and uh i know that it's being worked on um but it's really important for um for us to to do that as a as a transition transitional type housing which we are obviously short on we have 14 units uh uh at the aids health foundation hotel um and it's working great and that was kind of a pilot so now we need to i believe move into into into our our our own and i know they're looking at the at the real estate um uh human services i have added um uh mr rogers is totally right we all know food insecurity is a huge issue and there had been um a request for um uh jewish no jewish family services which covers a large range of area people for a refrigerated truck for food storage and um uh and and then continue the 750 000 for the area agency on aging meal program which we have been doing for a number of years um i i did not and i just couple that i missed when i was going when i was putting mine down i do want to add animal care i've been involved with that i go over to the shelter frequently and um our director is doing an outstanding job there um i think many of you will agree because you're not getting all the same calls we used to get from the shelter um but there definitely is a need for more dollars for um for tnr um and um number 41 the resilience obviously i am very supportive of that um and 29 i want to mention the was the cultural division uh continuing support for the culture cultural division and i i just want to say to to phyllis here but i think he's doing a great job of really focusing on the entire community um from east to west north to south in this in this community there are all kinds of cultural events in every different cultural people with different cultural backgrounds and and i just want to you know thank him for that and i think we need to continue that uh and also i uh do agree with commissioner fur on the xavier cortada project um it's really phenomenal what they're doing in the schools i know they're doing it in dade county as well and it's a small amount of money to really get a quite a bang for our for our buck and um and um i just want to say monica maybe next time we need we should pass out the budget summary that we did because when we talk about cutting back ad valorem um not even knowing what's going on in tallahassee but we need to look at what we're funding in this community and most of the people sitting here whether it's parks or you know or housing or uh libraries whatever it is i mean it's just tremendous um programming going on in our community and um if we roll back um then obviously we'll need to look at cutting things and i think it's a big mistake especially not even knowing what uh is going on in tallahassee and what would finally hear things every day is something different but you know until it happens we won't know um and i think those are mine yeah thank you thank you commissioner fischer thank you mayor um just item one obviously is to continue the same level of service for all of our county departments and offices uh item two is obviously continue public safety the same level of service for better item three uh mr fur and senator rich talked about that but we talked about the tnr access is extremely limited sometimes as few as eight spots per day while the shelters and the rescues and the volunteers are overwhelmed so our animal control and county needs to do what it can but it's operating within a budget it does not meet or match the scale of the problem so i just want you to know that i'm full of support of animal care on the tnr issue i'm going to go to number 14 obviously i'm in favor of affordable housing the 90 10 issue uh number 20 i do want to continue the small business grant program of a minimum of the 250. i think it's highly successful i think every district has seen that 41 is taken care of and then 44 tri-rail funding as you know that tri-county continues to fund tri-rail we're in a little bit of a a blip right now we're going to see what the budget comes up with whether the uh it's going to continue with our 42 million we'll see what happens there but we need to do the same level until what is determined at a later time i want to thank kevin and and our team for monthly meetings with all stakeholders when it comes to tri-rail coming up with some solutions and to see what we can do as a tri-county to make sure that tri-rail uh continues in the way it does you saw all recently the paper i think today or um the soccer of course is broke records uh for going to enter miami to uh to games and of course the upcoming um issues with the world cup too so lastly i do want to mabel if you'll pass around those um additional information i want to just talk about community association registration program this is brought to my attention with our border realtors folks and they're here today with us um and afterwards if you want to ask them questions feel free to do so but in miami-dade they have a a community association registration program and it's very simplistic but it's necessary and mayor you attempted to do this a couple years ago i think a few years ago where there's a one central base of condom association docs uh special assessments budgets for the associations all the documents are there unfortunately there are a lot of times where maybe a broker is not telling the whole story when they're selling a condominium unit or an association property that the consumer gets somewhat in from more form so this particular program ultimately becomes self-funded uh there's initial outlay i think a 316 000 i think lenny just told me now but ultimately a maybe a 50 000 recurring and ultimately i think it's going to carry itself in its entirety i mean day through their small fee program and it's very small up to it's a 52 a year fee up to 25 units and then a dollar 50 per unit after that there's late fees involved and then rework fees of course are there for you and that document and that memorandum lays out that program but again what's happening is our consumer this is number um four this is something that our our constituents need and folks moving in to our our county is very important so just having that one central location of all the documents especially with with surfside what we went through there all the milestones everything is there so when someone is looking to purchase or even sell uh it's in one place at one time and and so it's i think it's a very important addition that we need and again staff has looked at this uh and again an initial outlay probably would be about 500 but ultimately this is going to come back with the fee structure and it's going to be in my opinion a cost revenues uh neutral so i look for that support thank you mayor okay we've gone around the table now the next thing is starting over again and i'm just looking for our county's just looking for um what numbers you're willing to also say i support this that is not on your list so um commissioner rogers we'll start with you just if you want to just say the numbers of of any of the numbers that you're willing to support show you know that it's not on your list for me yeah from others yeah you didn't finish all right well your your list has numbers right like whatever number the numbers are there i did not separate so let me go to what what is i did not separate my human services that included everything that we all said but what we need to recognize that some of us included the entire county on these projects because it's that's what i did so let me let me just make sure and we could i can go the other way it's just your your numbers are we already went 12 to 18 19 and 39 so are there any other numbers on any other sheets that you'd say uh i support that or you know i support that no but i want to explain healthy communities a little bit more i i really we we what do you mean you what what do you want to explain okay you fully understand what i'm trying to say here what i'm asking for for numbers on other commissioner sheets that you want to support if any okay i am supporting them let me see who's the initiative as it relates to cra and how those fundings are allocated i'm sus we know what number that is county administrator okay i believe number 14 which is um district one um commissioner rogers is that what you're number 14 the cra conversation so it'd be number 14 number 14 yes i want to make sure that is very clear as it relates to the cultural events mr mayor i i want to make sure it's clear what i'm trying to do with item number 39. this is yours now we already went through each of ours we're we're time pressured for some commissioners to get out of here so i was hoping we're not going to go over our stuff if you want to it's not clear what who is supporting my items well you're going to if it's not clear then i don't know if i'm supporting their item i'm telling you then you want to go last so i'm not necessarily yeah you want to go last you want to see if someone's supporting your items mr mayor maybe a way to do it is just go through her and see who supports her items first so go down the list who supports item 12. that's why i like being that there's a reason for my madness yeah do you guys have a uh any other way you want to do this the way you're doing it is fine the way i'm doing is fine all right maybe new sheets have each one four okay give it to her that can work so we're not going to do it publicly we're just going to circle i don't know if that's what you want to do i'm happy that's a faster more efficient way so we take this we take your sheets and we circle whatever issues and and then monica will then provide monica then you can provide a memo to us on which items are the most for consensus i will do so but you can comment when we leave when we're all gone you then you can do i'm joking what do you mean you want to comment if you were going if the way you so mr mayor i've got six copies i'll get three more real quick and you guys can circle away if you'd like just it just i think just to give it to you i like his idea because it's not fair to commissioner rogers or commissioner uh you know you know davis or anybody that starts first and if i start here it's not fair to them yeah exactly exactly right right oh so do you want to just table this right now no no let her get it yeah okay all right mr mayor yeah comment on something yeah the the concern that i have monica is as i've looked at this there's almost everything that's on here something that in principle i could support the question is prioritization of the money and that's a completely different issue so that's mr mayor why i'm not sure how to respond i i mean every if we had unlimited money which we don't i think i'd support just about everything on here item number one item number two there are some items you know for example let me look at commissioner davis the the amount of money that has been requested here is very reasonable i'm not sure philosophically that i support giving money to each district for us to distribute in our district wait excuse me i don't understand why you have to say this then don't circle it then don't circle the amount of money is reasonable i just think if this also we're going i assume that we would have a separate vote on these at the so it's not the money got a small amount which is very reasonable right they would have to come up with a program right and that we have to approve idea right so that's why it's not the money that i would object to it's the so then so then vote for the money because you don't know the program and then you can vote for the program if it's yeah what you like or not which means that i support just about everything here if there's money and the last thing i wanted to say is i i did want to comment because there's one item that came up that i support very strongly which is what commissioner mckenzie was talking about the bmsd is about four steve if i if you go ahead and start talking we we had our turn i think i'm hearing you told us that we're going here i will be done in 60 seconds okay okay commissioner mckenzie has about four percent of the bmsd in his district excuse me four percent of his district is bmsd we have the overwhelming majority of his requests are for that i need to remind everybody here that the bmsd is the only area that we have direct control over the other cities or the other 99 of broward has cities that can take care of it the bmsd does not have anybody other than the county to take care of it so i completely support what commissioner mckenzie said this is not necessary i said what you said you wanted to do it to begin with okay no we're just going to circle what you want we're going to give it to monica and then we'll come back at another meeting and revisit it how does that sound and mr and that's fine mr mayor if you'd like what like you had suggested to me earlier when i get all of this back i will send a memo out of what is to capture what we what we've got on the consensus okay and then we can get back together and then you if you don't if your item is not to have a consensus we'll go through maybe you could argue hey i need a consensus on this this is why i want to and see if you can get it done again how does that sound everyone should now bite to the apple everyone should have now um the all the copies so that you can circle and please please put your name at the top of that so i know who gave me which of these circled items so let me ask you true is that are we allowed to do that yeah like we're hiding it from the public yeah you know it's it's going to be it's yeah no no hold on i'm asking him a question yes you're you're not you're not taking final action you're creating a public record okay i just want to make sure but thank you for asking vice mayor we should refer thank you we're going to have a commissioner's leaving soon okay so we're going to do a list and we're done correct so we're not prioritizing no circling steve you're a smart guy we're just circling what we support that's it okay don't make a mountain out of this thing i'm done i left that wise guy no they could stay here for three hours anybody could sit here for an hour for five hours i don't care they can stay after school it took you so long i'm i'm trying to pretty i'm trying to get this done i love it okay i'm done who do i give this to me i want to see what you did see how you voted against me you don't fold it thank you what your district is oh wait bmsdbmsdbm is look at that look at that i don't care you don't care good fine put your name on it i did you put your name on yours i'm not supporting anybody elijah's not going to take it unless you have your name on it so okay so the goal is you're going to put a memo together to let us all know what so far is consensus any of the items that are not consensus we're still going to at one of our workshops still come together and a commission will go around the table commissioner wants to argue hey can you please can i get some more consensus on this great great i think the only reason why you won't get a consensus our next our next budget workshop is when we have two june 11th and june 16th i think honestly the june 16th was probably the better one to do it um we've got i'm not going to be here june 16th i think it's unfair to do it and we can do it whatever the preference of the board is we will do june 11th um just so you know just so everyone's aware we have um the sheriff coming to present his budget on june 11th so at the end of that meeting perhaps i wouldn't suggest no we could spend we could spend all day here on june 11th i think at the end of that we come back and if there's the ones that we didn't favor our neighbor probably gonna just be a dollar i think so whatever the will of the board is we'll make it a we'll make it june 11th to accommodate commissioner davis at the end of that workshop i'm not at first we'll get dinner and lunch here and and and pillows and blankets yeah we gotta go and and just just for your recognition no that day is that day is just a budget workshop just okay yes sir um and just to remind everyone these these um budget priority consensus items are things that will inform the administrators recommended budget you all will get that on july 15th and then you guys have other workshops um after you come back from summer recess and then you guys will still have an opportunity to make any changes to that budget just just to remind you that's not the last bite of the act thank you mr this meeting's adjourned