their cell phones okay well we the good news is we we we uh did we get lunch for our commissioners and anybody else wants lunch you you have somebody selling food out there for you we need revenue we need to start maybe selling stuff did you get them on the phone kevin uh you got my where's the lunch from by the way anybody know where the lunch is from sophie's okay okay commissioner davis is not on she's not going to be on how about commissioner rogers well that's going to save a lot of time davis had uh said she will not be able to be on and okay we're done we're done with the county priorities then correct let's move on to the agenda brower county appraiser marty keir i think we're all in favor do we all have consensus on marty keir can he wanted to come uh no mayor bogan he would like to come so he's going to be here in just a minute okay um can i bring up one thing sure just on just on the uh i realize we're not going to be that north beach park didn't get prioritized i won't be here next year to talk about it i do i do think at some point this is one of the main places where visitors come to the county and spend a lot of time a lot of people and i do think it would pay for itself in terms of because it's all parking lot it's just a parking lot just something for everybody to think about not doing it this year but it needs to get done because there are a lot of people that's a lot of our visitors i thought they're in dania point i thought those people already you said dania point now there is and they go there it's a hot spot it's a hot spot mr mayor we just i've got in touch with uh property appraiser care he's on his way upstairs yeah tell him he can run he's he's that very athletic and the wastewater if wait it's right is wastewater here by the way yes you know they should bring some something that that not to drink represents represents their department not to drink you know some waste water or something that where are you getting those butterfingers from no can't hmm it's chanced green will go to the mix i'm in the middle of the meeting yeah excellent you're good did you want me to stop and we'll push it and then you'll push it and you're ready we're waiting for marty cure sir paging marty can they hear outside of this yes paging marty care your budget is going in 10 seconds in 10 seconds there will be no budget come on marty he will be marty shake a leg yeah go grab some go grab some food hey i'm marty here hey marty am i the best that was good marty marty marty we marty can you please have a seat and stop socializing mr care can you please have a seat and stop socializing mr cure lamar what what happened i mean we did we forgot it already it's too short it's too short marty sure you know what let me tell you you are aerodynamically awesome right now you know this is what that is true that's land of plane up there mr care i'm trying to run a meeting here this is i need to ask you a question of course it's a simple question with a simple answer who is the best let me tell you who's the best so many years ago when i was saying no no no my youngest daughter uh basically said to me hey dad at home who is is are you the county commissioner of my house i go nope your mom is so at the end of the day kelly care is my favorite county commissioner motion to disapprove his budget she is the best i have a motion i love everybody equally man good to see you don't lie you don't have to lie it's good to even see any of us you don't have to see everybody here without a doubt and i heard something recently steve i heard you are an expert marksman that's actually pretty awesome that is enough with the compliments i will absolutely sucking up right i will be very fast mr mayor if we can begin um just like we've done with um our other constitutional guests um we're going to have the office of management and budget well because we're prepared for a quick presentation if we might thank you thank you arnella does not give evil eyes so i'd like to introduce arnella umbasic uh our office of management and budget senior analyst and she's going to quickly go through uh property appraisers are you new i've been here for four years in august four she's making her her debut to present the budget to you so thank you she'll be quick thank you thank you afterwards by the way thank you monica good morning mayor vice mayor commissioners my name is arnella i'm with the office of management budget and i will be presenting the proposed property appraiser fiscal year 27 proposed property appraiser budget on this slide you can see that we have an overview overview of the fiscal year 27 proposed budget the proposed budget consists of personnel services and operating expenses the personnel services has an increase of 4.5 this includes the 2 salary adjustment consistent with the county's collective bargaining agreement and increased health insurance costs operating expenses has an increase of 3.1 and the total operating budget submission has an increase of 4.3 percent you'll also see that there is one additional position being requested for fiscal year 27 however no additional funds are being requested as additional budgeted resources will be reallocated to accommodate the position and you'll notice that for fiscal year 27 the annual adjustment for the share of the budget for the county has increased from 91.64 percent to 91.89 percent and this concludes to a 4.6 percent increase in the county's budgeted contribution on the next slide you see there are some major budget highlights and as mentioned before the personnel services includes a two percent salary adjustment and accounts for increased health insurance costs and this is consistent with the county's budgeted rates and there is one additional commercial appeals position being requested with no additional budget and like i said this is feasible salary real reallocation of existing budget and the 3.1 percent operating increase that we saw on the prior slide is due to higher postal and subscription costs technology replacements and upgrades increased mileage reimbursement rates and wireless networking enhancements at the new property appraiser office and as witness in the prior slide there is no additional capital outlay being requested in fiscal year 27. thank you so much that concludes my presentation thank you arnella do you think maybe that she could be hired by the sheriff and everybody else to keep it short sweet and to the point that's awesome we don't want to lose her but you know maybe in the efficiency uh uh realm we'll look at that marty do you need to add to that uh just the only thing i wanted to add and this is actually important for me to do i wanted to congratulate robert yourself and lamar on getting re-elected the other day it was a tough race it was but it was so well observed and the other thing i wanted to bring up too is uh you know for me this is kind of an interesting thing it's my last budget hearing i'm ever going to have the fantastic beam for it and i just want to tell you being you know i you as you said the other day you are not a lame duck you got some time to go and i know that if there's anybody that's going to get a lot accomplished in that time period it's going to be you uh but i'm really going to miss seeing you next year your way of saying you're not hiring him when he's done here yeah no i'm not giving him a job you know unless you approve a new position for me right now then i'm just kidding but uh i do want to um i just thank you all and to thank your staff uh you all are fantastic and just to add on to that you did a great job uh and what i'm very proud about is i've been really trying to come in with a a very lean budget and what i think is kind of cool is the potential two percent increase is really the biggest portion of it uh and we only give that of course if you give your staff a two percent increase if not that money goes back to you and then as you mentioned we budget the same exact for employee that you do for insurance and if you back out the insurance and also that two percent our entire increase is 0.26 percent so it's about a quarter of one percent and the other thing is i was uh excited about this my staff did come to me and they basically said you know marty we really need a new commercial appeals person we have a lot of appeals in the commercial sector uh and i basically said i'll ask for it as long as the county commission doesn't have to fund it and we'd had people retire at much higher salaries we were able to hire people at lower salaries we took that money and we paid for that and so that's the extent of the budget i just appreciate you all very much and and thank you monica for the great job that your staff does without a doubt uh going around does anybody have any issues or questions great job marty it's the first time in 10 years i've heard of a department getting rid of a hire and coming back with more people at the same budget amount and other uh county constitutionals and agencies should should heed that i think it's well done i suppose thank you mickey i think he's asking for too much mr mayor what do you think next anything thank you he was late so i have a problem with people being on time so i'm against you yeah don't blame you thank you rob yeah i don't think i can yeah senator rich you you feel the same way you can't support it thank you nan i appreciate that you know what i take back everything i just said about you all except for nan you know mr fisher i just think that all constitutional officers should serve at the broward county level because he understands what we go through marty you do and you know what our budgeting process is and you have been so just so just going on and just so respectful for our budget so that's off to you for even presenting this is awesome appreciate you thank you lamar thank you marty as i always say you do a great job because you're the best you're the best you know you're the best you are the best times at finney and you can't go higher than okay i am the best yes thank you anyway you win right thank you very much i appreciate it it's wonderful i get one compliment a year when he comes but it's well deserved without a doubt all right marty i think that uh we have i think we have a consensus here to support your budget and maybe you can give other constitutional officers a lesson i won't mention who but uh you know there's some others that you can give a lesson too thank you mr and congrats again on everybody for being re-elected and uh uh you know you and thanks for your donation marty thanks for your multiple donations yeah not i'm joking i have two teenage daughters i cannot afford to give campaign donations but thank you all very much thank you thanks marty bye everybody get out of here okay you're done get out of here thank you marty great job great speech we can actually get out of here soon i'm trying water and wastewater services bring bring that wastewater how are you it's been a long time don't be a stranger love me anymore no he doesn't talk to him okay he loves you oh you're warm thank you mr mayor we're ready i'm going to introduce you know commissioner uddin you ready well i'm going to wait for michael uddin until he's ready i want to i don't want him to miss this thank you commissioner okay with that alan garcia how long do you plan on being up there 15 minutes max beautiful thank you it depends on you guys ultimately okay that's right um mayor bogan yeah vice mayor mckenzie commissioners thank you very much it's my pleasure once again to present the uh water and wastewater services uh 2731 capital program and the 27 operating budget just real quickly we continue to win awards we continue to try to be the benchmark utility in florida and in the entire country and i think we've done a very very good job it's not been easy and it's been more difficult the last couple years with some of the uh things that our legislation up in tallahassee has done but uh we're working through it uh real quickly first we'll talk about our capital program um capital program really is made up of three elements system reliability quality and sustainability of course that's important for any utility to have that both on their water and their wastewater side um we also in our capital program target our septic tank elimination program and then finally and this is the tough one for us are the regulatory rule impacts um and that's right now the ocean outfall reuse biosolids disposal and pfos regulation we took c51 off this year because that's underway that's in the past and it's been working great so it's a great program to be part of on our system reliability obviously we try to minimize breaks to our system most of the breaks that we do have are because of um contractors that are out there specifically some of the ones that are doing the directional directional drills and they end up drilling through our pipes um but like i said most of them are due to contractor breaks whether it's our contractor on a project sometimes when we're doing a project replacing an older system just the proximity of where they're working tends to cause some breaks but at least they're there and the inconvenience is minimized um sure when the contractor goes out to do work are they provided like hey we have pipes here they're told and even though they're told who tells them us or somebody else um they go through locating they go through sunshine um location service it's a state state agency and then we get the we get the locate ticket and we have to go locate it but there's times where they don't call in which is not good and and not not really legal um and then other times where we tell them where it is and they still hit it so you know they unfortunately a lot of times with directional drill it's not an exact science and they're playing it close and then it gets too close um our water and our sewered unsewered areas pretty much that map is remains the same uh down on the bottom left the yellow the uh the area of pembroke pines that's our 3bc bid package one that is underway it's going very well um we are uh worked out an arrangement with the contractor to try to get key roads open before the school the elementary school there opens uh in august but it's it's going very well then the next phase will be that red just to the east of that that's more in hollywood's area but that's our bid package too on 3bc and that is new water and putting sewer in so they can eliminate their septic tanks so just real quickly um we've got about 51 000 parcels on septic tank countywide um for us we've got about 2375 that remain on on um on septic tanks that project i showed you the yellow and the red down in pembroke pines in hollywood that itself is going to um eliminate 2170 of the septic tanks so very few will be remaining we just finished up a project um in pompano beach just uh west of dixie south of copens um and we've got some areas that we're working on now but these are usually smaller prod areas areas with like anywhere from 50 to 100 homes that need to get on on um on uh sewer okay now our regulatory uh rule impacts obviously december 31st 2025 was the um the deadline to shut our ocean outfall off however we got an exception through dep because as it stood now if we shut our outfall off that would have stopped all this source water for pompano beach's oasis reclaim system and they've put a significant investment in and they've got a lot of reclaim out there now that they serve their customers so we've got a project that's ongoing it's it's made up of two two bid packages both um are have been awarded uh one has gotten their second notice proceeds so they should start uh putting pipe in any day um but what that will do we'll have a dedicated line directly to pompano's plant so then when we do shut the outfall off on days that we don't use it as an emergency backup they will still get water at their plant because we didn't want to do that and and it was a cost us but we did get we did get some grant money um you know for that for that project um the rest of the reuse we're really waiting on let's go to use uh we're waiting on pump uh palm beach to finish their portion that they're doing in the in the south end before they start taking um you know water for us but you know we're ready to do it but there's a lot of unknown with reuse um potentially there's pfos issues and it may ultimately get regulated from a pfos perspective which would definitely impact how we can um use that that reuse especially for irrigation so we're waiting to see what comes down the line on that and that's why we're proceeding a little bit slowly including putting some uh reuse into lighthouse point because we wanted we don't want to put a bunch of pipe in and then find out from the state you know we really can't do reuse i'm sorry can you explain what reuse means so reuse is once you go through the wastewater treatment process basically it separates out you get you get solids which end up being the biosolids the sludge good stuff the stuff that's used for fertilizers and and you know stuff like that once it gets treated and then you get a a second uh secondary treated effluent which is basically you know water that you can't drink obviously but it's excellent source of irrigation um some industrial uses for you know uh you know makeup water like we use some of the water at the plant where you know you nobody's consuming it but it's part of the the process so it's it's just treated wastewater that's treated to the point where you could put it out and irrigate your lawns for and instead of using potable water to irrigate and it's a great way to prevent um you know not not being able to irrigate your lawns when there's a drought because it's drought proof you know regardless of how how much drought you're in you'll always have reclaim to do it so it is a very popular but it's it's one of those things where at first people are very reluctant to get it and then when some of the neighbors get it and they see that their lawns are nice and green and using water all the time it then starts to steamroll and that's exactly what happened with pompano beach and their program how do you get it so so yeah how can i get it for my house i want to use for my law it would be up to like the individual cities to you know if they if they operate their own wastewater treatment plant port lauderdale they'd have to put a reclaimed plant in at at low mire by the by the port um there's not a lot of utilities right now that are doing reclaimed hollywood does it uh i believe miramar does it um i think sunrise sunrise might do it um but that's it i i don't know if margate has reclaimed or not but it's really up to your utility and you know a lot of times they don't because there's a very large investment in putting all those pipes in the ground um you know um you know we we have what we did is in the areas of crest haven um which is was unincorporated pompano and now it's been annexed to pompano when we did those neighborhood projects up there we put dry pipe in because we figured okay at some point we're going to want to be able to provide reuse to to our customers um you know and we don't want to go and dig up the road again so while we had a contractor out doing water and sewer we also put the purple pipe in the ground but it's it's it's a costly process it's a process that you'll never get a return on your investment for but it is the right thing to do as far as saving a limited commodity which is potable water you know when you're irrigating with potable water you know 5 000 gallons that that's out of the ground that's not coming back if you're doing it with reclaimed that 5 000 gallons will be there every day because every time people flush their toilets we're ultimately going to be making reclaimed out of it but aren't you talking massive i mean massive piping to entire communities yeah i mean you'd have to put eight inch pipes pretty much through you know so now you'd have a gravity sewer probably running down the middle of the road you'd have potable water on one side and you'd have reclaimed on the other side so you you know it's it's it's a it's a lot of a lot of work and very disruptive to do all righty let's go to the next favorite pfos so um we all know about pfos we've talked about pfos in the past um we currently have a consultant on board they are finishing up the what's that so um we are in the process the our consultant is wrapping up their study on the filters because that's really the first part you got to determine what the character what the nature and character of your raw water supply is and what filter is best to filter out the organics the pfos and all the other things that you're looking to take so they do a pilot study they bring different filters in they run the water through they analyze the water afterwards and they finally say hey this filter is the best filter to do we're wrapping up that pilot study now we're also in the design so we're we're making progress on on the pfos um and we're still on on uh we're still shooting for that that 2029 you know deadline um um because you you have to you have to you have to look at the nature of the of the water if it's got a lot of organics in it that may change the the no it's it's not that you're studying what's in the water you're studying the filters and which filter best removes all the things that are in the water whether it's organics well no you can but this is or the other kind right but there's still different filters in that category there's different there's there's makeup of the filters so that's what you're studying it's it's all going to be nano filtration or ro basically the same thing but the actual makeup and the design of the filters because there's different filters that that you can get that are more effective than than others depending on the makeup of your water you know and what you're removing out of that water if you were to go for uh if you had a very brackish or salt raw water supply that filter would look significantly different than the filter that we're going to be using because we don't have the salt and the brackish in there so it's really just the filter itself we know the process we're going to do but you actually have to go and say this is the design of the filter this is the membrane sizes and everything like that i i don't understand why we're waiting to 2029 this is i this is uh you know my commissioner should know that you know when we're even talking about building something it's years away which is uh you know what's 20 why well it's not it's not that we're waiting but the design is taking is going to take time and then once we're done on the design then we got to we got to bid it and then build it and we're building we're making upgrades at two plants and also putting an interconnect line in between the two plants that interconnect line may not get done by 2029 but that won't affect the operation ellen i'm sorry but but we're not reinventing anything this is being done around the country in different water plants so it's not like we're you know you know take how long is the design how long is the company that's doing design telling you it's going to take um i believe the schedule for their their design work was a year and i probably three months for the the filter determination so like 15 months for the monica this is ridiculous that we i mean we just so we allow our staff and companies to take years to get something done that shouldn't take this long it's not that they're inventing this has been done already i understand why they can't take a design that's been done before and fit it into our area and why is it going to take 15 months to design something that they've done before because the the problem is mayor is this isn't a fresh site like what fort lauderdale is doing with their plant where they took a vacant land bare land they're having to fit this treatment process inside an existing plant while that plant continues to run the whole time so it's not a it's not a i wouldn't call it a a cookie cutter type design where okay this one use that design let's use that same design it's very unique to the layout of our when did we hire the design company um it goes this last year yeah it was it was within the last i mean they got their notice to proceed within the last year sometime late in 2025. and they immediately started 2026 they should be done they should be done by the end of this year okay and then why is it going to take two or three more years well just just the cons that that includes the construction not not three not three years for the construction but but at least probably two years four to construct the improvements at the plant and that's what you've been told yeah continue alan thank you um just real quickly this is a new slide um this just talks briefly about some of the settlement money that we have gotten um or the county attorney's office has helped secure for us we've got about 22 million that we anticipate when it's all said and done um that from the lawsuit that that we brought to the brought to you guys yes okay so i'm i'm good for 22 million on that you get your finders frame there now we're talking but we're actually getting 22 million dollars from that lawsuit yeah between between the um 3m dupont uh tyco and basf the total is expected to be 22 million and that money we are reinvesting that money's using to help fund the design the design is about 40 million so that will supplement and go towards the design that we're paying for the consultant to to finish the job thank you all right biosolid disposal this one sort of we got thrown a little bit of a loop this year um because the state enacted some new legislation that goes into effect in 2029 and 2029 will be here before we we know it and that's really impacting the ability for us to dispose of the biosolids like we do now right now we produce class b biosolids we send it up to land farms south and north of lake okeechobee those sites are becoming less and less so the state passed a rule that says if you're not producing class single a um biosolids you cannot spread it after 2029 and if you're if you're produced if you can't stop producing class b before 2029 you can't ship it out of your county unless it goes to a dedicated facility that can treat that class b and make it class a so um as we had mentioned before we've got a um a consortium of other wastewater utilities in broward county uh utilities that operate a wastewater treatment plant um and produce biosolids we're collectively as a group we're trying to come up with a a solution where we can build a facility to dry it to class a or class double a um quality and then ultimately in fact the state just put out a um notice uh today that um they're gonna they expect the the bill to be signed that requires us to test our secondary influent the water that goes to reclaimed as well as our biosolids for pfos um there's no regulation yet it's just for informational purposes at this point they're requiring us to test it every quarter um but at some point the epa probably is going to come down with regulations on those and it's just a matter of when when does that happen what that what that regulation will be like they do acknowledge that that the levels in biosolids are significantly higher than levels that are in the water um but you know we it'll be interesting so so to address that we will also be designing what's called pyrolysis in that which basically takes our biosolids and will basically heat it up so much that it will destruct and destroy all the pfos and basically you're just left with ash and then it's like a matter of okay what are we gonna do with the ash whether it goes to an ash monofill um some some concrete companies have looked at it as possibly an additive so you know we'll see but that's where we're headed with that right now we're um uh putting out a um rfp to hire the consultant all all the utilities have come on board except for three um to say yes we will fund and pay for a consultant to design this and then when it comes down to we'll have to do one more interlocal agreement to say okay they're designed it we estimate it's going to cost 200 million 300 million here's everybody's share and we'll have to do one more in a local agreement for that but we are you know we've got that in the works it's just that we started that later than pfos because you know we were headed down a road that all of a sudden that road got a lot shorter with the legislation this year and them saying after july 2029 you can't dispose of anything other than class a um you know in the state of florida so we are working on the biosolids disposal um but realize we've got pfos which is uh 400 to 500 million dollar ticket to build those plants and we've got the biosolids which could be anywhere between 200 and 300 million that's a big hit on our utility um and and to absorb those costs and to also you know bond and finance those costs and i'll get into a little bit of that later how we're how we're dealing with that alan can you also please share um with the commission about that this the the biosolids is actually through interlocal agreement and how many municipalities are participating mark how many how many utilities do we have signed on right now including ourselves so we've got seven and there's three that have not signed on pembroke pines fort lauderdale and hollywood out of 25 no no no no there's no it's only those are all the those are all the um uh utilities that operate wastewater treatment plants there's some of the utilities that just do water and you know like for instance parkland utilities they do water but they send their wastewater to us to treat so there was some regional efforts there and that's why that's what's that yeah yeah we're one of the seven that have signed on and the other three have not but one reason fort laudale and hollywood haven't is they're not producing a biosolid yet that could be easily treatable so they're working on stuff on their end to see if they could meet the quality of biosolid that we need pembroke pines i think they're just opting to go down their own path so yeah um is there a threshold that we need of number of cities no i mean listen if everybody ended up dropping out it was just us we would just design a smaller you know facility you know so that it's not really contingent on it but what we want to do um commissioner fur is we don't want to sit there and say okay well we're going to design it to treat maybe you know 100 000 tons a year you know and then all of a sudden once we're on in way and underway with construction somebody else comes up and says oh wait we would like to use it too you know it's like you guys now is the time to jump and if you don't you're going to be left out and you're on your own you know coming up with your own solution so um right now with the with the design we can we can start down that design and if the other two jump on it's just going to make it a little bit cheaper for everybody else as far as their portions of the design but when it gets to the construction that's when you know you either got a you know uh fish or cut bait right so um and these are the uh working group participants so like i said port l hollywood and pembroke pines right now are not they have not signed the interlocal for the design just the other seven um just real quickly an overview of our five-year capital program uh total cost is 795 million and it's because of the pfos and ultimately it'll be uh due to the biosolids even though the biosolids at least that on that end of it that is spread out between the seven seven um seven to ten users and also as far as our portion goes it then gets distributed amongst our large users our 11 large users you know coral springs barkland utilities royal waterworks pompano um north lauderdale all the ones that send their wastewater to us now so those costs are somewhat diluted when it comes to our um our customers because of that our operating budget excuse me one second i have one question oh sorry what happens to cities that are i'll use weston as example gets their water from sunrise so they probably also send their wastewater to sunrise so sunrise is part of that part of our group and signed on yet is what you're saying no sunrise sunrise has so so they they will they will be participating and like i said you know some of the the larger wastewaterers take uh you wastewater treatment plants take it from other cities that just are water providers you know so you know or even in that case like with weston they're getting the water from sunrise they're sending their wastewater to sunrise same thing with us in lauderdale lakes we provide them retail water and wastewater but then we take that wastewater and we send it back to our plant for treatment alan i've asked you this question before at the water uh advisory board meetings um on the pfas yes yes um when i've um on the uh pfas and whether we go with reverse osmosis or the um other technology uh how much uh i this going to going to result in increased costs to the consumer because obviously both the cost of filters cost of the energy is going to be much higher about how much should the residential users expect an increase to be so i'm glad you asked that and you're welcome um and i've got a slide i can pull up if i need to but but here's where we got creative um commissioner geller for the last three years in our calculations for our revenue requirement we added a six million dollar rate stabilization fund for each year because what's going to happen is when pfas hits that is going to be an increase of 30 million dollars to our debt service right now our debt service is like 37 million it's going to jump to 67 so having that rate stabilization and we we've got three this will be the third year for rate stabilization so after this year we'll have 18 million dollars in that fund and two more years will get us to 30 so when we do issue bonds we won't see that big spike for customers it'll be minimal what the customers eventually will see will just be a you know a nominal increase probably in the five percent range each year because of the energy costs and filter costs and the o m costs for the plant but that main capital uh cost because ron my finance director and and um the finance department got together and got creative to do this stabilization fund made a huge difference and the fact that we're we're putting away six million dollars and we've got all these other impacts and the rate increase this year we're we're recommending like a little over six percent is really a miracle to me that we can do all that and really still keep rates at a reasonable and somewhat affordable you know um number based on the large capital program that we've got coming up between pfos and biosolids um this year is the first year we're adding six million dollar rate stabilization for sewer so ultimately when the biosolids goes we'll probably have about 18 million towards that bond issue but the fact that we can absorb that 30 million dollar initial debt service and every year with our rates we'll be able to cover the debt service um and just really so the really the impacts are only going to be on m costs and i would expect it to be in the five to six percent range and and to add on to that um commissioners um you know this was a very intentional that was not by mistake this was a very intentional um action that we we took um very by design um four years ago a little over four years ago when we started talking about this one of the very first things that alan and i had talked about was the impact on the rate payer um and so i wanted to make sure that we were intentional so there'd be a smoothing impact so that the people that are the users will not have a big hit and that they'll be ready and that we will be ready with the bond okay so you said five to six percent because of the increased energy and filters and then there'll be an additional but just a small one from the 18 million that you're bonding yeah uh well we haven't looked we don't know what the final numbers on the biosolids are going to be so it's hard it's hard to say but for the pfos for the the water portion of that bill it's just going to basically be the increase in the o m costs um because the 30 million dollars is going to cover that large increase to the debt service and if you look at this this chart you could see this last year we went from 131 to 156 150 i'm sorry my eyes my side's back the reason that's so much steeper is now we've got 12 million dollars in rate stabilization six for sewer six for water the other two years it was steeper than the other years because we had the six million dollars in that but by doing that you know we put it away we could have we could have kept at rates at probably three percent but then when all that hits you know people are going to see you know 50 60 70 percent increases which i think it's easier to just take small bites of the pie each year than to try to eat the whole pie in five years and mayor just i was asking us every year alan uh when you have our rates increases all our customers our municipalities are are well in advance noticed so there's no question when they come around in september in their budget or they try to question something we with with our large users we have to give them at least 60 days notice i always hold off till i at least have this workshop because i don't want to tell them something if that's not the flavor of the board um but you know once i walk away from this this workshop and the board has said hey we're comfortable with this then we'll start to let them know in advance but we we will you know actually do it in a certified letter per the agreement you know six more than 60 days out can you give me just for the record can you when you do that can you just give me for the record a copy of the city of pompero beaches letter absolutely and i know the issue we had last year and and also um just as a note of note um we did send something out already to coconut creek um with uh with the approach and some recommendations um because they have not implemented some of these um smoothing impacts and we were a little concerned and wanted to make sure we were put on record uh they were put on record so we could share our recommendations with them so the coconut creeks letter has gone out um in advance uh but yeah because coconut creek they they they're a sale for resale customers so we sell them treated water they buy it in bulk from us and then they distribute it out to their customers and they they render cut the water and sewer bills to their to their customers we told them a couple years ago hey just to let you know our as an example this year their rates are like four point something percent ours is six point three for our customers it's because of the stabilization we can't do a stabilization on them our contract with them says we can only charge them for the cost of service but we told them a couple years ago and like monica reference we just sent them another email this year saying hey it's not too late you may want to consider maybe doing two million dollars per year in a rate stabilization because if you don't when that debt service hits they will face the brunt of that debt service because they haven't you know there's no rate stabilization for them so there uh i've offered ron to me with staff to describe how to sort of set that up and and the you know um the um mechanics behind that i'm just not sure if their commissioners are are as knowledge minded as as by the way i want to just let you know i've spoke to two commissioners uh coconut creek and told them exactly the message and you know yeah vice mayor did you yeah i i do have a um question that may be more for legal than it is for alan but we're here defending future rate increases you know based on steps that we're taking to the betterment of our systems but you still have the unincorporated areas um that don't have that same fight in particular the ones that receive water from the city of fort lauderdale i know you're getting complaints uh lamar fisher from lauderdale residents about the cost of their water and no we said we couldn't uh purchase and they also said no that we couldn't buy their their infrastructure um but there's a runaway train out here now with city of fort lauderdale's water it's gonna get worse when they turn that new 1.4 billion dollar system on it's privatized uh there'll be no control of where these rates go so pfas uh we sued somebody right when we realized it so my last inquiry to illegal was what can we do legally uh to put this at the forefront because um our taxpayers uh our rate payers are their rate payers of of the infrastructure of water uh it's out of control and they haven't even participated in this program based on what you said earlier so they have no intention on trying to do anything that's going to better uh the services uh in some of our cities and in particular in the bmsd where there is no representation other than the senator and myself in terms of who's looking who's watching and uh paying attention so legally um i just don't want this to go by the wayside i want us to keep our feet uh on the gas pedal if you will or to find out any way that we can you know um force them to uh come to the table so um i'm sure we have the resources to do it but i don't want it to fall by the wayside um i think what our bmsd residents are facing is kind of the other side of how alan has set up our um water and sewer rates to account for the fact that there would be some increases over time and so i mean if you look at the chart you'll see that city of fort lauderdale internal rates are pretty high and that's just reflecting the cost of their debt services there's i get all that but they don't get a chance to enjoy what others who receive our water enjoy which is a lower rate and and if you look to to your to your point vice mayor if you look at the chart the top two highest rates fort lauderdale outside of the city because of the 25 surcharge and that includes when they're providing it to the bmsd and wilton manors which my understanding is they they do a sale for resale fort lauderdale so they buy the treated water from fort lauderdale and then distribute it out so they're the two highest in broward county and they basically both source water is they're paying double really right what's that they're paying the rate and then they're paying 25 for not being a part of their city so and and like anika said their rate their base rate not outside the city has gotten high they used to be in the bottom three on that chart probably as recently as five to six years ago and they were one of the ones i was sitting over there yeah and and they were one of the ones that because of the investment that they're making this new water treatment plant they kept rates low sometimes they wouldn't even have a rate increase sometimes it'd be two three percent instead of saying okay we're going to do five percent every year because we've got some rate stabilization in that and then when the debt service hits from this plant we won't have this catastrophic jump i mean we've financed all this stuff and i think we're pretty much in the same spot on that list that we've been for the last couple years we might have dropped down one we might have gone up one but that's not bad for all that we've got on our plate so i agree i mean not to mention not to mention they replaced their stormwater sewer what they haven't dealt with yet is the water infrastructure that's some 120 years old that capital improvement also is going to skyrocket and be passed on um to the end users so this is critical uh only because they're being charged extra because they're outside of the service area that that to me that's that's the criminal element as opposed to i know it always ties down to the the repayment of the bonds and and things of that nature but something can be done we need to bring light to this um more so than what you've been hearing from me because i started talking about this day one i just talked about it the city i voted against everything they did over there in reference to um um these type of issues because of how much is going to cost the taxpayer the end user at the end of the day at some point we step in and say you know like today the discussion with spirit and and our own government said we're talking about cutting back but these folks don't even have a say so they're taxpayers there's no representation no representation no voice at the table for them they represent fighting this so whatever we have to do legally i'm asking this board to embrace it and legally please find me a solution to this issue it's a tough pill to swallow when you've got your corporate limit that goes down the middle of the road and on the right side those homes are fort lauderdale and they pay um what's fort lauderdale got 116 yeah and across the street they're paying 25 30 more because they're not in the city and it's the same water it's the same service it's the same location and and that's why we've never done that we've never charged anywhere because you know we we we provide water to pompado we provide outside now of unincorporated areas we don't charge any surcharge nor would we ever but it might be the same as sunrise but this sunrise has someone who can fight for them we they don't have a voice this group unincorporated have a voice no but i'm saying when you're outside you don't have you can't you don't have your own system you you contract with them so if you look here you said sunrise inside the city is 101 and outside the city is 120 almost 127 that's the difference and there's nothing you can do about that and the water bills show it every month is there a lawyer in the house just sort of from the legal right so from a legal perspective this is what the cities are entitled to and this is actually an improvement for what the law used before the law was that you know they they charged their service and the city and municipalities and counties or whoever's a utility operator could charge a surcharge on top of that pretty much essentially what the market could bear and so the legislature has just recently fairly recently brought it down so they can only charge 25 above what they charge their users there's um as as their cap and most of the cities who do that i think if you look at senator rich for sunrise they're doing exactly that it's exactly 25 over and that's and and so city of fort lardale they have had massive um you know they this is recent so they had massive increases and their bond their resolution for setting the rates for outside the municipality is just that outside users are 25 percent over the fee according with the with the florida statutes so it's really just i'm looking for a loophole or it can do when i talk to a lot of the residents one caller just put in a new lawn probably water what another 20 times to get that growth he went from like 175 to 900 water bill two months in a row so if they had the portable or the re reuse um option um otherwise you go to their irrigation system and now that's 300 a month 300 plus your 175 just for taking showers and flushing a toilet so i don't know how we deal with it we're gonna stop taking showers maybe we stop going to the bathroom i feel your pain vice mayor i do it's it's it's a tough situation you know it would be great if they just annexed it now it became fort fort lord and 25 goes away so so the annexation is is a little little tricky i tried to do that when i was there too they voted no um but it's all political i'm trying to get them the best representation there is and maybe with monica you know we need to sit out those lunches you have with city managers and and other administrators and purchase because it because raquel told me that you know that's that's a money maker um how much would it cost us to stop the bleeding and the minute they turn that light on that switch on with the new the new person that's now going to own that infrastructure it's a runaway train vice mayor we have um and i think i can certainly share it with you and anyone else on the board i have um been communicating with the city manager and has sent her a couple of letters on this very issue we need to be just as brass and abrasive in terms of bringing this to the light that this is going on in the city of fort lauderdale and there needs to be a way that we can we can remedy this so we need to be just as aggressive just as whatever they are to say no because it's a revenue um um driven answer that's not the answer i will work with uh uh miss ashton uh mr myers office to to see what else may be other legal remedies there may be um and we will continue on that conversation you know i feel about it so yeah but i mean i wouldn't just let them get away with that you heard the sheriff talk about it he needs more money to pay for his water you heard him you can't he's outside of that service area all righty so basically the rates we're recommending would um increase the average customer and now the average customer is a customer that uses 5 000 gallons a month has a standard single family uh residential meter which is typically a five eight centimeter they would see a five dollar and 65 cent increase per month in their their um their water rates um for customers that that um do only three thousand gallons their rate increase would be only a total like four dollars and 39 cents and that's some of our you know uh customers that struggle a little bit more they don't use as much water so you know but you know these are these are the rates we have to do because we know we've got these big ticket items coming up but hopefully that that doesn't cause too much heartburn for the customers because i think we've we've done our best to try to balance the rates and the impact on our customers to what we need to do for our system from the wholesale rate perspectives these are rates that we have um either raw water or the large user wastewater customers they are all trued up they're based on actual costs we true those costs up every year and if there's a shortage um we collect it the next year if there's an overage they get they get a refund the next year on their payments um the the increase for the wholesale wastewater is going to go from three dollars and twenty cents to three dollars and twenty two cents very minimal um and then for the raw water it's going to go from 29.3 cents to 30.6 cents so if you look for the wastewater that's an impact on a customer's bill of 10 cents a month um and for the wholesale uh raw water customer it's it's six cents per month so any utility that says that's a large user say on the wastewater side that tries to blame us hey the county's the reason we've got to raise all your rates it's not true i mean you see 10 cents per month is is the impact so um and and like you said uh commissioner fisher we we do let them know and i will absolutely copy you when we notify them so there's no issue like we've had in the past and so with that i'll open it up to any remaining questions that you all may have any other questions thank you ellen going once going twice commissioner fisher good so thank you i was trying to get lead get into you commissioner we're now on our last item fy 27 general fund hall review give us one minute we'll give us literally two minutes here thank you he's good all these things we're going to get done hopefully within an hour hour and a half so if they can if they can educate the public it means nothing fine but there's not enough firefighters police to make a difference so i'm an elected official and i didn't know that so how how was the average yeah all right mr mayor we're ready monica are we ready yes sir i said we were ready okay okay i'm going to ask um jennifer steelman uh to kick us off doing it again no we we really liked his presentation and then jennifer's going to be just as efficient a nice young lady that was here arnella yeah thank you now you got jennifer another nice lady let's go budget director steelman yes yep that's just like that young young man you had brought in uh to our commission he'll be our next budget analyst as soon as he gets his master's degree we can hire him okay so we can keep this within 15 minutes you think elijah can tie me see if i beat your time no no unless he's giving you a bonus at a certain time get set go all right good afternoon uh mayor vice mayor commissioners i'm here to present the county administrators fy 27 general fund overview so this slide here is a timetable on what is to come after this workshop so on july 15th we'll have a recommended budget submitted to your office then on august 1st tax collector she's going to submit her budget to the department of revenue we have two more budget workshops scheduled for august 20th and 25th and then we have our two budget public hearings scheduled on september 10th and september 22nd so the general fund outlook for revenue is our ad valorem taxable value is broken into two buckets primarily is 77 percent residential 23 percent non-residential within residential it's broken down into two other buckets 36 percent homestead and 41 percent non-homestead can i interrupt you yes so 77 41 so if that thing passed in um the ballot issue passed in november it we're only talking uh we're talking 36 percent of residential yes so 36 percent of of homestead residential is would potentially benefit from a reduction in in taxes we would lose property tax revenue so so 60 64 percent of would not be affected at all i can see kevin shaking his head so there's the five percent cap on commercial um and then the which non-homestead falls under as as well so the 64 of property in brower county would not be affected even if it was approved is that correct that's not there's a five percent so currently right now there's a ten percent cap on growth if you're not homestead residential so the proposal says to take the ten percent growth and to put it back down to five percent growth so there will be a future revenue loss of that five percent differential on the non-homestead residential and the commercial properties just trying to understand they expect that five percent ultimately i think to be larger smaller than the residential correct i didn't hear your question i'm sorry i understand i i i believe that the five percent cap on the commercial and other non-residential is expected over years to be more of an impact that that is that is the the potential that is correct because if if a property in those categories grew by under normal circumstances between the five and ten or even above the ten then that differential of revenue um would be a loss of revenue to the county that is correct that is a potential if it was growing at that rate so it's not just the res it's not just the immediate cap on the 36 percent that's correct remaining commercial will ultimately be larger that that is absolutely accurate so for budget planning purposes uh we use the state edr at 4.99 percent um and we have the june 1st tax roll from the property appraiser at 5.08 so this year we picked up 0.09 percent increase from what we were planning for our budget forecasting and in past years just to put it in reference i believe jennifer correct me if i'm wrong in past years we've usually seen about a full percent difference of more of an increase so this year it's the gap is closed a lot this slide here has our distribution of the fy27 county-wide property taxes as well as the millage rate for the general fund and the general capital fund we have this next slide here which is the history of the cra and the related ilas with the settlements um so we have here from 1982 to 2027 as you can see we have about 915 million dollars worth of payments and we're projecting for fy27 57.4 margate has expired and does not have a cra contribution or fy27 and the pompano east settlement goes away as well as planned on this slide here we have the impact on the tax rule for the cras and so we have the fy26 era payments at the 61.9 million we remove margate to see what is the real growth of the cras that's happening in the background for those that will have a payment in fy27 and so the change from fy26 as you can see is about a million dollars which is 1.8 percent last year when we looked at this slide the growth within the cras was 9.5 so we are seeing indicators that there is some slowdown in the tax roll across all areas and on the slide here we have the cras that have expired the new one as stated as margate so we're looking at 32.6 million on this slide here we do a projection uh funds expired from the cras so we started it in fy23 um and then we had some more that fell off from the prior slide so the nine million increased to the 27.3 and i wanted to point out in fy27 our estimate from last year's tax roll was 32.6 we annually update this based on the growth in the tax roll and the amount is exactly the same at 32.6 so none of these numbers have changed on here we have some non-ad valorem revenue outlook for fy27 we are looking at a continued decline in the half cent sales tax revenue as well as our other revenues in the general fund are anticipated to be slightly down as well for 27. this slide here may look slightly familiar we showed it a few months ago and we left off at november 2025 at the 10.75 decline and in february of 2026 year over year we have an 11.78 percent decline so we monitor this monthly and we're just watching for what other economic indicators are out there to fine-tune our forecast for 27. so moving into some fy27 budget request we'll start with a summary of the constitutional officer's budget request so we have this little matrix here we have bso that's requesting a 12.4 percent increase property appraiser it's a 4.6 percent increase and you saw their presentation earlier today we had the supervisor of elections they came to do their budget presentation on may 19th 7.3 percent and we have a clerk of courts request at 41 percent so in total there's 106.7 million requested at 12 percent moving into the county agency fy27 core budget we have a change of 25.4 million which is a 4.5 percent increase on the next slide here we'll talk about one of the big cost drivers of our 4.5 percent is our estimated health insurance increase for the general fund of 11.3 million we have two percent in the budget for fy27 for the union collective bargaining agreements the increase for frs we estimated a few months ago at seven million it came in at 6.7 million our soe election for the gubernatorial in november of 2026 is 5.1 million and then the increase for the tax the increase in the tax roll equals an increase in expenditures to the county to cover the two percent commission and fees for the tax collector so our estimate a few months ago was 84 million and so it is now calculated at 84.6 million and it includes a new component with a state law change to where the county will now be responsible for paying for the school board debt levy in the past the school board would pay for that so what are some general fund increases and decreases that we're looking at for fy27 so the office of medical examiner and trauma services contract increase for the on-site removal of the indigent services for 260 000 with two additional positions then we have 17 position eliminations proposed 12 of them are from long-term vacancies and then five of them are from the consolidation of the two departments the public works and environmental departments that we did last year then we have two position reductions within the general fund with the clerk foreman's recording contract with briar county we did our quarterly meeting with her in june and we talked about some of the vacancies and there are no operational impacts and so we came to an agreement to have two positions are reduced as part of that ila that we have with her so we have a net reduction of 17 positions that we're proposing in the general fund and then into the operating portion we're proposing to reduce 3.4 million in the facilities management division in contractual services because we're shifting the budget to the appropriate funds so that the cost center is where it should be so this last slide here is in light of the florida legislator placing the property tax question on the ballot while we are cautiously and strategically moving forward to develop a responsible and balanced fy27 recommended budget and the last slide really is the timetable just a reminder july 15th we'll be delivering the fy27 recommended budget books to your offices and then we look forward to your feedback and we'll have some budget workshops in august and the budget public hearings in september and i turn it back over to monica saparo thank you jennifer 10 minutes and 45 seconds she was see bonus great job bonus exactly you're a bonus all for it that was it we wanted to give you um an overview of where we stand today um and you know i have met with all of my agencies um on my side of the ledger um and so that um overview at the last few slides is kind of where we sit with our agencies very lean um budget we're still reductions of of of positions um some efficiencies that we've been pushing and um so i think it speaks for itself there monica actually anybody that could sit through this without closing their eyes should get a bonus don't you think sure are we done we are finished sir unless there's any questions good any questions any questions nothing you don't want to good job thank you good job is right thank you thank you all very much history he's too tired