So I'd rather just have somebody give a call and again, that phone number, let's go through that number. Three, two, one, six, nine, three, nine, two, four, six. We're talking with Janice Moya of Rock Steady Boxing at Advanced Fitness. What a great opportunity this is for people to find a proactive way that's going to make a difference for them. You know, that's what we always talk about in the helping seniors world. We want to find a way to connect people to the resources that are going to make a difference for them in their aging plan. And particularly, this seems to be a really a breakthrough kind of thing for people who have a diagnosis of Parkinson's. And even as you mentioned, some that have Parkinson's like challenges. So really the place to begin seems like give you a call, get an opportunity to get in there and see what this is all about and have it make a difference for you. Thank you, Janice Moya, for sharing your time today with us. Thank you for having me. And thank you, viewer, for joining us for this edition of Helping Seniors TV. See you again right back here for Helping Seniors Television. Let's work on our aging plans together. I'm Joe Stackler. Thank you for joining our program today. I'd like to remind you that our senior information line is available to you at 321-473-7770. There you can get help and direction that could be helpful for your specific situation or circumstances. The work of Helping Seniors is very important, but we can't do it alone. That is why our sponsors here in Brevard County are so important. I'd like to thank our many area sponsors, businesses and medical providers who support the mission of Helping Seniors that help us carry the cost of our media efforts. If you'd like to join us either as a business partner or simply donate as an individual, we welcome your call at 321-473-7770. You're always welcome to visit our website at www.helpingseniorsofbrevard.org. Thanks so much for your help. It does make a difference. If you wish to speak to any item on the agenda or during the public comment portion of the meeting, please fill out a speaker card. Each person addressing the board shall have three minutes to complete his or her comments on each agenda item for which he or she has filled out a card. The chair has the discretion to determine or alter the time limits on any agenda item. The Board of County Commissioners requests that speakers appearing under the public comment section of the agenda limit their comments or presentations to matters relating to county business, that are within the board's control, authority, and jurisdiction. Okay, good morning. Our invocation this morning will be delivered by Pastor Jeff Smith from the O'Galley Church of Christ. Jeff, come on up. Good morning, and would you bow with me, please? Gracious and almighty God, we come before you this morning thankful for your many blessings upon Brevard County, this beautiful place of ocean and lagoon, of rocket launches and quiet neighborhoods where so many of us are grateful to call home. We thank you for those who have answered the call to public service. Vice Chairman Altman, Vice Chair Atkinson, Commissioners Delaney, Goodson, Deltner, along with the county manager, the county attorney, and every staff member who labors on behalf of our county. Their tasks are not easy. Grant them wisdom as they balance care for your creation with the livelihoods of your people, fiscal prudence with fair treatment of those who serve, and the needs of today with the hopes of tomorrow. We also thank you for each resident who's come to this chamber today. Their presence is a gift to our county, a sign that self-government is alive and well. Let peace and decorum prevail in this room. Soften any hardness of heart, sharpen every mind, and guide every word spoken, that what is done here today may serve the common good. And I ask this in Jesus' name, and amen. Amen. Thank you, Pastor Smith, and thank you for what you do at O'Galley Church of Christ. I'm an O'Galleyite. I grew up in O'Galley, lived there since the late 50s, and really appreciate your church and what it does. It's right in my neighborhood, so I had to put in that plug for my local. Okay, our Pledge of Allegiance will be led by Commissioner Atkinson. Would everyone stand, please? I pledge allegiance to the city of the United States of America. Okay, we will go to our resolutions, E1, resolution recognized in May 2026, Citizen Engagement Month, District 1. I think we have to approve the minutes first. Okay. I don't, do we have any amendments? I don't, I didn't see any amendments. Sorry about that. Yeah. And Commissioner Goodson, do we have to do something with him? Do I make a motion, if I may? Oh, yeah, if you can, yes. Could I make a motion to allow Mr. Goodson to join us, Commissioner Goodson to join us by phone? Second. The motion is second. All in favor, signify by saying yay. Yay. Yay. Opposed? It carries. Commissioner Goodson, thank you for being here. Okay. Now, we'll go to resolution recognizing. Thank you. Of Citizens Engagement Month. I just have a little something to say before we get into the resolution. I brought this item forward to recognize something that sits at the core of effective local government and engage in informed citizenry. This resolution affirms Brevard County's commitment to citizen participation from Speak Up Brevard to advisory boards, public comment, and programs like the Citizens Academy. It also reflects our responsibility to consider citizen recommendations each month during Speak Up Brevard and highlight the role of Florida Sunshine Law in ensuring transparency and access. Together, these efforts reinforce that informed and active participation strengthens accountability, improves decision-making, and builds public trust. To celebrate this month, I have invited District 1 resident Tony Shifflo, who speaks frequently at the Titusville City Council meetings, to share a few words after I read the resolution. Whereas, in 2010, the citizens of Brevard County approved a referendum establishing a formal process for citizen engagement through the Citizen Effectiveness and Efficiency Recommendation Program, also known as the Susan B. Connelly Speak Up Brevard Program, originating from a Charter Review Commission recommendation. And whereas, this referendum requires the Board of County Commissioners to annually consider citizen-submitted recommendations during the month of May, and whereas Brevard County recognizes its citizens as essential partners in governance, demonstrated through service on advisory boards, participation in public comment, and engagement through programs such as the Citizens Academy. And whereas, Florida Sunshine Law and public record statutes ensure transparency and protect the public's right to participate in government. And whereas, active citizen engagement strengthens transparency, accountability, and effective decision-making and supports the county's mission and core values. Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Brevard County, Florida, that May 2026 is hereby declared Citizen Engagement Month. And encourage residents to become more involved and to actively participate in public meetings, advisory boards, and other avenues to strengthen local government. Done, ordered, and adopted in regular session this 21st of April, 2026. So moved. Is there a motion? Is there a second? I'll second. Seconded. All in favor say yay. Yay. Opposed, nay. Charries unanimously. All right, Ms. Toney. Good morning, and thank you for allowing me to speak. I'm Tony Shippelow from Titusville, Florida. Oh, some 50 years ago, my parents owned what is now 200 feet inside the NASA line on Playa Linda Beach. Fifty years later, I've returned to Titusville looking for a home on the east side of Orlando where I grew up. And I wound up here because once you cross the St. John's River, here you are in this beautiful area. Unbeknownst to me, I bought what is one of the 12 locally designated historic structures of Titusville due to the Titusville Historic Preservation Board. What does that mean, I said at closing when the real estate agent said, oh, by the way, you'll be getting a plaque. She said, oh, you just bought a historic structure. So to find out what that meant to me, I got myself involved with the Titusville Historic Preservation Board. I was appointed eventually because I started going to city council meetings. And I found out that I only went to council meetings when there was some activity that pertained to my neighborhood. And lo and behold, on just about every agenda, there was some item that pertained to my neighborhood. Now, not knowing exactly how to answer questions of my neighbors when they would complain about the potholes on I-95, what's the city doing about it? Well, it's not the city's project. Well, what's the county doing? So in order to protect the county, I started finding out, you know, who's in charge of what. And then something came along like the Citizens Academy, and I went to that. And by golly, I learned a lot of things. Citizen involvement is very important. This is how you find out what your constituents are talking about, what they're thinking about, what they're needing, what they're wanting, what they're wanting you to do for them. And where do we as citizens find out about that? There's no newspaper to read anymore. Remember the days when every morning you got up and you had a newspaper with your morning coffee? Well, how do you find out what's going on? It takes a certain amount of integrity, information, digging, and consistency to find out, except there's ways that this county, Brevard County, is making it easy for the citizens. Citizens can participate fully, giving you feedback as well as pushback. But it's got to be informed and educated participation. And that's where things like the Citizens Academy come in. And also having a Citizens Engagement Month every year to remind the citizens that there are ways to get educated, to know what's going on, and to give proper feedback and pushback to those that we've elected to represent us. So I want to commend the county for the efforts to engage citizens through your SEER program. You know, that's the Citizens Effective and Efficiency Recommendations, the SEER program, and your Citizens Academy. And I hope that you look for other ways through town hall meetings in your districts so that your citizens can come and speak with you directly and not just at formal meetings. So thank you very much for this resolution. The citizens of Brevard, especially those of us in District 1 that I'm representing today, really appreciate your efforts. Thank you. Thank you, Tony, for your service. I don't think we have one. We have a photo op here. Do you want to join the commissioner up at the front? Ready. Okay. We have E2, Resolution for a Day of Prayer in Brevard County, May 7, 2026, and District 1 as well. Thank you. I'm bringing this forward to recognize May 7th as the Day of Prayer in Brevard County in conjunction with the National Day of Prayer. Ms. Loretta Dozier is here as the citizen requester, and I would like to offer her the opportunity to give a few words after I read the resolution. And she's welcome to come up with her cohorts. Whereas May 7th is designated. Yeah, go ahead and approach the restroom. Whereas May 7th is designated for Americans to come together as a nation under God to observe the 75th consecutive National Day of Prayer. And whereas the Supreme Court has affirmed the right of state legislators to open their sessions with prayer and the Supreme Court of the United States Congress themselves begin each day with prayer. And whereas the first National Day of Prayer was proclaimed by the First Continental Congress in 1775. But President Lincoln reaffirmed it in 1863. Congress established the National Day of Prayer as an annual event by a joint resolution. signed into law by President Truman, signed into law by President Truman in 1952. And whereas in 1988, the law was amended and signed by President Ronald Reagan, designating the National Day of Prayer as the first Thursday in May. And whereas the theme for this year's observance as stated by the National Day of Prayer task force is glorify God among the nations seeking him in all generations. And the scripture for this year is tell of his glory among the nations and his wonderful deeds among all the peoples. First Chronicles 1624. And whereas the National Day of Prayer is an opportunity for Americans to join in united prayer, to acknowledge our dependence on God, to give thanks for blessings received, to receive healing for wounds endured, and to ask God to guide our leaders and bring wholeness to the United States and her citizens. Whereas it is fitting and proper to give thanks to God by observing a day of prayer in Brevard County, when all may acknowledge our blessings and express gratitude for them, while recognizing the need for strengthening religious and moral values in our state and nation. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Board of County Commissioners of Brevard County does hereby proclaim Thursday, May 7th, to be designated as a day of prayer in Brevard County, and encourage citizens to observe the day in ways appropriate to its importance and significance. Done, ordered, and adopted in regular session this 21st day of April, 2026. So moved. Second. Second. Motion second. All in favor say yay. Yay. Opposed? Nay. Uh, carries unanimously unanimously. Thank you. Okay, Commissioner. Awesome. Thank you. We would like to say thank you to the commissioners. Thank you all for your service. Uh, we thank God first for allowing us to be here and stand before you. And thank you for every year that we come to the commissioners and ask you to present the resolution. You have done that for the last 10 years, you have done that for the last 10 years. I'm Loretta Dozier. I'm the Brevard County coordinator for the National Day of Prayer Task Force. And we have all, and we have all, some of the volunteers here as well that are city or town coordinators. And just, and I would like them to introduce themselves because we want you to know who your constituents are. So they'll say their name and their city where they're from. But the goal and the mission of the National Day of Prayer Task Force is to mobilize and multiply unified public prayer for America. And on this, on that day, May 7th, thousands of people around the country will be praying, praying for seven different areas. If you have your brochure, those seven different areas are there. We pray for the church, family, education, business, military, government, and arts, media, and entertainment. And, of course, they're praying for their cities and their city leaders. So we're so grateful that our country, we're in a free country, we can pray and we give God glory for that because the theme is glorify God. And so we just thank you all for presenting the resolution. And I will, like, you have a document in front of you. Pastor Evie will share that. Just open it up for the audience and they will know what's in there. Pastor Evie, would you just come for a few minutes? Okay. If you look at your document, there are 70 sites and growing. This is a working document. People are still calling in and saying we will be a site for prayer. And you can see the cities throughout Brevard County that have people who step forward to pray at government facilities, at parks, at schools, at the flagpoles, on media outlets. Some of these are virtual meetings where there's telephone kind of prayer lines and conference lines. There are different languages of Creole, English, Spanish, Chinese, and bilingual. And we're just very pleased. Like, one is at Carter's Garage. Some men are at 6 o'clock in the morning. So there's businesses. And we just are very excited about how there are so many participants of different across the spectrum throughout Brevard County. And I didn't mention churches, lots of churches involved. And so we're just very pleased at how people have come out and they feel that this is very important. And when this day is over, we want you all to know that we still pray for you every day. You're very important to us. And so when you don't see us, we are still praying for you when this day passes by. We thank God for how he's blessed our county, blessed the state of Florida. You can see God's blessings. If you go to the National Day of Prayer website, it'll look like red dots over everywhere that a prayer site's gone up. And when you see the state of Florida by the time the National Day of Prayer, Florida will be covered in red except for the Everglades. So you will see Florida covered in red. And it's just a wonderful, wonderful thing. May the Lord bless you richly. And I would like to just give us a few minutes, sir. Thank you so much. Just introduce yourself. Pastor Buwana, go ahead. Buwana Bostic, I'm the Senior Pastor of Cedar Rep. Peace Christian Center in Calvo. Okay. John Kane from Melbourne, Acts 2 Ministries. Linda Taylor, Melbourne, New Mount Zion Missionary Baptist Church. Edie Serrano, Palm Bay resident, member of Love Community Gospel Truth in Melbourne, and also part of the Bible Club. I'm Evie Oestraner from the Mission Church in Palm Bay. Margaret Irwin from the Mission Church prayer. Prayer minister. Diane Lehner, Palm Bay, Mission Church. Wendy Senkawa, Palm Bay, Mission Church. Brenda Garcia, Grant from Ontario. Lily Garcia, Grant from Ontario. My name is Ed. I'm from the Mission Church in Palm Bay. And on the National Day of Prayer, I'll be at an observance of the National Day of Prayer at the Kennedy Space Center. Praise God. And so thank you all for your time. And we want to leave you with a prayer. Kathy Branzell is the president of the National Day of Prayer Task Force. And at every observance, those 70-plus observances, a prayer will be read. A prayer for America will be read. Every meeting will read this prayer in unison. So we're going to leave you with this prayer. We're going to read it together. And it says, Almighty God, King of glory, we confess our sins and repent of our pride that sought our own glory and comfort, allowing evil to take root instead of your fruit in our hearts, homes, culture, and country. Please forgive us. Now with this declaration of rededication, we humble ourselves, pray, and seek your face, turning from our wicked ways that you would heal our lives and our land. Please purify and renew our hearts with holy attributes, affections, attitudes, and actions to love you with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength. We give you glory as we repent and rededicate our lives and our nation to you. For 250 years, you have guarded and guided America in wisdom, grace, mercy, and love. We praise and thank you for our founding fathers, for all who sought you in fervent prayer throughout history and answered your call to defend justice, freedom, to protect and serve, preach and teach, innovate, communicate, learn, work, worship, and establish our laws. May your kingdom come and your will be done in our lives, our families, the church, education, business, military, government, arts, entertainment, and media, as it is written in heaven. We prayerfully commit to glorify God among the nations, seeking him in all generations. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. Bless you. Thank you, sir. God bless you. God bless you. This is a wonderful spreadsheet of all the locations. Very impressive. No date mentioned because I assume that the times— It's May 7th. All May 7th. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And you are welcome to attend either one of them or get on the phone on one of the virtual meetings as well. Fantastic. Yes, ma'am. Okay, we have a placard and a photo op. Oh, yes. You all are invited. You saw the one for Vieira, 12 o'clock? Right here. Commissioner Altman, we would love for you to be there. 12 o'clock right here. Well, I may be there, but I may be at the one at the Kennedy Space Center, too. Okay, that's even better. I'm going through the list here. That's even better. Yeah. Awesome. Commissioner Feltner, you've been so faithful in helping us over the years. Thank you. You're welcome. Ms. Actinson, you as well. It's always lovely to see you. Let's take a picture, y'all. You've got to get up there with the— Fantastic. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Come back, baby. Come back. We're here. Right here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're going to say Jesus on three. Okay. One, two, three. Jesus! Yes! Yeah! Thank you. Hallelujah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Last one. Okay. Our next resolution is recognized in Beauvoir County Citizens Academy, which was mentioned in our earlier resolution, I think. Yes. Commissioner Delaney. Thank you. I sponsored this item because this is one of our programs that has been around for a long time, provides real value to our community, but still isn't widely known by all of our residents. It's a valuable resource that I hope many more of our residents take advantage of for upcoming cycles. The Brevard County Citizens Academy has been offered since 2001 as a way for residents to learn how their county government works, what services are provided, how departments operate, and how decisions move through the process. It's a seven-week program held each February and March in partnership with our UF-IFAS Extension Office. The most recent class concluded March 26th, and for anyone interested, this year's presentations are available online as backup for this agenda item. Before I read the resolution, I wanted to briefly outline our speakers. After reading, I'll invite UF-IFAS Extension Director Beth Shepard to say a few words, followed by inviting one of the county staff who participated in the program, and then I'd like to see if one of this year's Citizens Academy graduates would say a few words. I also want to take a moment to recognize the many staff members who contributed to this program. I'm going to embarrass you all. Would you mind please standing up just for a moment if you've ever given a presentation at Citizens Academy? Their willingness to share their time and expertise is what makes the Academy such a valuable experience. And with that, I'll go ahead and read the resolution. As the Brevard County Citizens Academy, established in 2001, was created to foster open communication between residents and county government and to provide participants with a clear understanding of county operations, services, and opportunities for public participation. And where over the past 25 years, the program has engaged as many as 800 residents and has been recognized in multiple local publications for its value to the community. And whereas participant evaluations consistently demonstrate increased knowledge of county functions and resources, along with strength and confidence to communicate effectively and engage in local issues. And whereas a significant majority of participants report an intent to apply what they have learned, attend public meetings, and take an active role in their community. And whereas since 2016, the UF-IFAS Extension Office has partnered with Brevard County to deliver the Citizens Academy, enhancing the program through integration of research-based education with practical, real-world, local government insight. And whereas the Brevard County Citizens Academy contributes to a more informed and engaged community by supporting civic participation, collaborative problem-solving, and empowering residents with their local community. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Board of County Commissioners of Brevard County, Florida, does hereby recognize the Brevard County Citizens Academy as a valuable program and commends its continued role in strengthening informed civic engagement with the community. Done, ordered, and adopted in regular session this 21st day of April, 2026. So moved. I'll second. Say the motion. Motion second. Those in favor, signify by saying yay. Yay. Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. Let me get my glasses on. On behalf of UF-IFAS Extension Office, we thank you. We are truly honored to accept this recognition. Hearing the resolution, what stands out to us most is not just that Citizen Academy has been around since 2001, but how meaningful that work continues to be today. People gain an understanding of how county government works, how to access services, and how decisions are made. But just as importantly, they build skills to engage communication, active listening, and collaboration, becoming tools they can actually use. And it's truly an honor to be part of a program that continues to strengthen Brevard County, not just through information, but through people. Thank you. Thank you so much. I don't know who's coming next. I'm going to pick on somebody, and I'm so sorry because I didn't ask you before this, but John Scott, if you wouldn't mind saying a couple words about, I've heard some really great things about your presentation that you just gave. And if you could just share, you know, what you do and give us an insight to what that looks like. Good morning, commissioners. And thank you. So I would just, yeah, I mean, we very much in emergency management, you know, talking to the public is a big part of what we do. And anytime we have an opportunity to talk to residents who are sort of taking that big step to become engaged, it matters to us. I know it matters to all the other directors because that's someone who's going to take our message back and spread it amongst their family, friends, and neighbors. And that's a big part of how we continue to move forward in this county. So we very much look forward to and relish the opportunity to speak with folks. Thank you. Thank you. And Ms. Toney, she is a two-time graduate of our Citizens Academy in Brevard County. I had a speech prepared, but I'm not going to waste your time because everybody said what the academy does, how it unites the citizens of the county with the department heads and often staff members they bring along. And so I just wanted to say, having been a two-time graduate, you get certificates, you get some really neat handouts from the departments that you can take home and put on your refrigerator that have contact information. Brevard is a charter county. Mr. Richardson brought this to our attention at the end, provided copies of the charter. You get fun things like from mosquito control. You not only learn about the mosquitoes, you get a coloring book and the crayons. It's a really tremendous program. I recommend not only that all the citizens of Brevard take the academy, but it's been very useful. About half of the participants in each session I've been in were county staff members who come and learn not only what they're supposed to be doing, how they're reported to be doing, but how their unit fits in with the other departments. And I think connecting the dots is a very, very important aspect of the Citizens Academy. So I want to congratulate Brevard County and this commission and Brevard Citizens for the Citizens Academy. Thank you so much. Thank you. I think we have a thank you. Do we? Okay. Other graduates, are you ready? Oh, yes. Our graduates? Yes. If there's other graduates, please feel free to come and join in the picture. I'll pull them. Thank you, board. Okay, thank you. Our next item is E4, a check presentation from, that's a key, very operative word from, from the Coastal Conservation Association, CCA, for $50,000 to Brevard County for the historic Banana River bomb target, artificial reef for enhanced fish habitat. And we have a check that's going to be given to us and hopefully an explanation of what the bomb target is, because there's a real nice description in the agenda packet, but a very fascinating little piece of Brevard history. All right. Good morning. We're excited to begin this habitat restoration project where we're going to construct and install 40 artificial reef structures around a historic U.S. Air Force bomb target in the Banana River Lagoon. This was used as a target practice for world training for World War II. So we aim to not only enhance and restore this critical habitat, but also bring awareness to this unique historic site. In addition, we're going to install improved signage around the submerged structure to enhance boater safety in the area. The county's grateful for this contribution from the Coastal Conservation Association, as well as support from the Indian River Lagoon National Estuary Program, the City of Cape Canaveral, and the Brevard Zoo for this project. Without partnerships like this, projects like this would not be possible. Good morning. I'm Frank Gaitis. I'm the Director of Habitat and Environmental Restoration with CCA Florida. This $50,000 is part of our two-year million-dollar habitat pledge that we're doing around the state of Florida. And this project really caught our eye because, I don't know if you all are aware or not, but over the last few years, it's been really difficult to find qualified offshore marine contractors. And so, this really caught our eye because it's kind of a unique project being inshore. We've been donating to the Brevard County Offshore Artificial Reef Program for over a decade, and we just really like working with you all. It's been just kind of a seamless process. And like I said, this is not only really, it's not only an artificial reef, but it's also a fish enhancement project. This is going to attract, you know, fish. It's a structure. I've been out there. It's a structure that's already in place. It's sticking up. So, it's going to be really unique to turn this into an actual, you know, living, breathing, artificial reef. So, we just thank you for the partnership. Fantastic. I think we'll do a quick photo opportunity with the check. Now, I'm going to invite the whole commission down to receive $50,000. That's wonderful. And, Commissioner Goodson, you'll be here in spirit. Maybe we'll Photoshop you into this picture. I think it's in your district, too. So, let's have a quick photo. Thank you. Center. Center. Right here. I'm going to grab one side of the check. I know, right? It's a prank. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, do you need to be able to dive it? Oh, absolutely. It's a store for it. I know. Take me. Okay, cool. Fantastic. We've come a long way, haven't we, from dropping, having bomb targets in the Banana River to building fish reefs. But, thank you so much for that. It's wonderful what the CCA does to protect Florida's natural environment. Okay, we will now move on to the consent agenda. We do have one item that has a speaker that we will remove, and that's item F4. I'd like to ask the commission, is there any other items they would like to have some discussion on? Yes, sir. F5. F5. Okay. Okay. F4 and F5. I think that's it. And a motion would be in order for the rest of the consent agenda. I move to approve the rest of the consent agenda. Second. The motion and a second to approve the balance of the consent agenda, other than F4 and F5. All in favor, say yay. Yay. Yay. Motion carries unanimously. Okay, we will move to F4, a resolution to adopt the Avalorum Tax Abatement Program Guidelines. And the card is from Rick Heffelfinger. Would you have staff to make some comments before I get up, because I'm not sure. Well, why don't you address this here at the podium, if you can address this. That way we get you on the record since you filled out a card. Rick Heffelfinger, District 1. I guess I had a question pertaining to the scores. You got some good numbers, or you got bad numbers. That's what I don't understand. Because it looks like we're doing a great job making sure that we're paying our employees in Brevard. We've got a list there, one of the attachments of Florida Commerce. How many counties have we got? Oh, they didn't number them, sorry. But number six. So we're paying people good. My question is, if we're paying so good, how come firefighters were paid so poorly? Because this must be a total average, right? So I would hope that that leveling, now maybe it's because they negotiate with the union, so we try to squeeze them. But it is a reason for cost growth. And we always say that, you know, certain organizations are paid underneath what the average is for the other counties. That's a pretty good score, but that's costing the taxpayers, all of us, to pay those salaries. So I would hope that you guys, as a commission, would be looking at really and saying, hey, we pay our staff really well, and we want to get what we pay for. And the citizens want the same thing. I'm not going to – it's just – I always hear these in the past couple of years. I hear these comments about how, you know, we've got to give them cost of living increases and all that stuff because of the inflation. Yet they're staying up kind of nicely unless you think that they're all county employees from all over the state are paid low, and 8th is not a very good number. I don't know. It's – that's just my observation because, again, talk of busting the cap. I hope we don't throw more money at them this time in the – we're not going to do a cost increase for their salaries, are we? Because they're already 8th. I have a quick question. Are you speaking of the F4, the tax abatement, Avalorum tax abatement program? Yeah, it's got attachments, and one of them is the state of Florida incentive average wage. Okay, good. You're talking to that portion of the agenda, the attachment. Yeah, that drew my attention, that ranking of number 8 there. And I just want to be sure of that. Okay. All right. Yeah, because I could have stapled the wrong thing to the – Okay, yeah, I understand. Good, but that's a good question. Do we have a response to that question? Good morning, Mr. Chair and commissioners. Each year, the Economic Development Commission of Florida Space Coast Avalorum Tax Abatement Council reviews the average wage, as Mr. – the speaker had said, average wage, because we have three elements when a person applies, a business applies for a tax abatement. We have three elements that go into that research before they go to the board. One is the number of employees. One is the payroll. One is the capital investments. At this year's discussion, with the average wage going to $68,000 a year, the council decided, because we have so much in aerospace and heavy manufacturing, we need other businesses to support those businesses. So, it was decided by the council to keep the average wage of $61,784,000 for this particular program. So, EDC is requesting that the board approve the resolution for this tax abatement program. Okay, great. I just wanted to be specific to your question. No, I appreciate the insight there that you asked. So, Mr. Chair, this is the average wage that the Economic Development Commission uses as part of their formula to recommend the tax abatement. It's not the average wage of county employees. This is the average wage throughout the entire county. Got you. That's a big fundamental difference. So, does the – I guess I could ask for a follow-up. So, does the EDC – I mean, what does the abatement actually do? Are we going to ask the local employers to lower their wage so it's an attractive place to work, or what? Or raise their wage. I don't know. I don't know if the score is a good thing or a bad thing. I think it's just an accounting of what our average wage is. Is there a reason for that? Maybe you can take it. Commissioner, the reason why the average wage is part of the calculation for the tax abatement program is because they will get points. The higher their wage, the more points they get. But the average wage of $61,784 would get four points for that. Anything below that would get zero points. So, the tax abatement program is based on the number of points a business brings to the county. Capital investments has a number of points, three through ten. A number of employees have also a number that's assigned to them. The more people that they bring, the larger the number that they have. So, if somebody gets a higher number, they could get an abatement for eight years at 80% of what they add to the tax roll. Or 10 years at 100% of what they add to the tax roll for that given abatement program. So, it's just a guide for the tax abatement council to recommend to you, to the board, an abatement program for those tax abatement programs that come to the board. So, does that mean the county would give them a waiver on some of their business tax because they're bringing such high-paid individuals into the county? This is... Rick, please go through the chairman. Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. She just brought that information. Sorry, Scott. I understand. Go ahead. What was your question again? Well, I just wonder, does that mean, because we, there's been some talk about these programs that we give, you know, tax waivers to businesses that come in, and that's, you know, good for, if we get the tax dollars from the employees, that's what happens, right? They go to our stores, they go to our shops, they buy boats here, right? So, it's good. So, is this a consideration? I want to look at her. Is this a consideration for the county authorizing a waiver to some of the business taxes because they brought the employees? I just... I think it's a very interesting point that you bring up because the reason would think that if you had a lower average employment pay, you would probably be, that'd be a positive for tax abatement because you need to hire more jobs to increase wages. But whereas it's the opposite, the higher the wage in the county, the more points you get. So, that would be biased against a community that needed more jobs. But maybe there are other reasons, maybe because there's a higher average wage, you've got to be more competitive and bring in workers. Do we know the logic behind that? Mr. Chair? Yes. Maybe Commissioner Feltner has some knowledge. Well, I hate to summon someone from the audience, but after Mr. Heffelfinger has finished, we do have Neil Johnson. I see him out there, and he... Neil, I hate to do that to you, but you might be able to clear that up. I do not see him out there. All right. I've got 19 seconds left. I'd just like to thank you for... Mr. Chair, I'd like to thank you for engaging the staff so we can try to get some information to us. I appreciate that. No problem. Very intriguing question. And I will gladly listen to whatever the next speaker has to say. Thank you. Very interesting question. Thank you. Sorry about that, Neil, but I think you could clear that up. Good morning, Commissioners. My name is Neil Johnson. I live at 2491 Crooked Antler Road in Melbourne, Crooked Antler Drive. I don't even know my address. I am actually the chair of the AVT Council for the Economic Development Commission. And just to add some... And that great explanation, thank you for that. The score sheet is designed... So the AVT program is designed to give us an incentive that we can use to recruit companies to come to our area that have high-paying jobs. Those high-paying jobs will then create what they call direct and indirect jobs beyond that because, as the speaker rightly said, when you bring in those high-paying jobs, they're going to shop in our stores, they're going to buy our boats, they're going to stay in our... Well, the tourists stay in the hotels, but they're going to buy houses. So the return on investment, and we've done the research, is about 8 to 1. So for every dollar that we abate in the ad valorem piece of the property taxes, we get about an $8 return on investment on the spending that they do in the community. So that's the reason that the score sheet gives them credit for higher-paying jobs, is because that's the design of the program. The reason that we bring the average wage to you is because of state statute. We're required to do that. Okay. And I can answer any other questions. Okay. Are there any other questions? I'd like to make a motion to approve F-4. There's a motion to approve F-4 by Commissioner Eccleston. I will second. I want to say one thing before we vote just on that. Second, and discussion. Okay. Sorry, sir. That's okay. Just so that we're all aware, each tax abatement stands on its own. So every one has to go before the Board of County Commissioners. So approving the guidelines today is just that. Right. Each one of these would come before the Board individually. Excellent. Okay. Any other discussion, debate? All in favor, say yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. Carries unanimously. Thank you. Good discussion, good question. That's a very important issue, and thank you for staff for that and, Neil, for being here. Okay. We will go to F-5, which is approval appointments and reappointments. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So I think that the citizen advisory boards are really important, not just to the community, but particularly to me, because there are individuals who are out there that I can work with, I can learn from, and they can bring to my community or from the community to me. And for me, that's important. So I have a concern that if we allow some of these appointments, specifically for the Health Facilities Authority, which has been vacant since December 2025, the Community Development Block Grant Citizen Advisory Board, which has been vacant since December 24, and the North Brevard Commission on Parks and Rec, we don't have anybody in that seat. I think that the next incoming commissioner for District 1, it might serve them better if they were allowed to appoint those three particular, or at least be part of the decision of the board for those particular three appointments. So that's my thought, and I'd make a motion to deny— I have more discussion about that. Certainly, but I'm just going to make the motion and see if it gets seconded, and then we can make the discussion. So I would move to deny the appointment to the Health Facilities Authority, the Community Development Block Grant Citizen Advisory Board, and the North Brevard Commission on Parks and Rec. Other ones for me are fine. Okay. I'll second that. There's a motion and a second. Discussion? I have discussion. Yes. So I understand, you know, where you're coming from. I've been—myself and my team have been looking into these appointments for quite some time, and it's still under my authority as the D1 commissioner, and the next D1 commissioner can literally wipe out any board seat that they wish and replace it with somebody else once they become commissioner, and so there's nothing holding them back from doing so. I don't believe that these vacancies should be—should continue. I think that it's part of my role as commissioner to appoint somebody, and these are the people that I've chosen due to their experience and their willingness to serve. Like I said, the next commissioner can swap them out if they so choose, but I don't think that D1 should not have the representation during that time just because of my situation. Yes. These positions have been vacant for a year and a half. No, they haven't. Well, I mean, North Brevard Commission on Parks and Rec hasn't had a previous member in the seat. West Canaveral Grove strategy area since December 24th—or 2024. But in any case, I think that from a board's perspective, it's not a great idea to force the next district chair to—district commissioner to have to work with people that weren't picked by them. And it would only be a matter of months before this could be straightened out, possibly, if we have an appointed commissioner for D1. We all do that. We all did that when we got elected, and I don't foresee any issues with these people. They're all professionals. They're all highly experienced. And, you know, it's just an insult to the people that have applied to these positions to even suggest something like that. And, you know, these boards are an advisory role. They're not making any decisions. And so there should be representation in those seats. Mr. Chair, may I make a clarification? Absolutely. So Commissioner Delaney was correct that the incoming commissioner in District 1 could remove and replace appointees if that commissioner wanted to, as to two of the boards. First, the TYCO appointment is a District 1 commissioner appointment for that particular seat, and the Marine Advisory Council appointment. Both of those are just acknowledgments. The commissioner has, in effect, made those, and the board just being asked to acknowledge those. As to the remaining, the CDBG, Health Facilities Authority, North Brevard Library, North Brevard Parks and Rec, and North Merritt Island, those are all board appointments. And the North Merritt Island is specifically, it must be recommended by the District 2 commissioner, and the board acts upon that recommendation in an advice and consent manner. Okay. So we're talking about four appointments. Three. Three? Yeah. And what are those again? Health Facilities Authority, Community Development Block Grant, Citizens Advisory Board, and the North Brevard Commission on Parks and Rec. And so your motion is for those three? These three only. The other ones stand. Okay. Okay, great. From what I was told, that those boards were D1 appointments approved by the board. That's not correct. District 1 is a District 1, or the TYCO and Marine Advisory Council district commissioner appointments. The others are board appointments. Okay. Any further debate? Okay. Seeing no further debate, all in favor of the motion signified by saying yay? Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. Opposed, nay. Nay. A motion carries of one nay. That's Commissioner Doniney. Okay. Do we need a larger motion, or did that motion cover the supposing of that item? The way I worded it was the— Everything else went through, so the North Brevard Library and the North Merritt Island were both approved by the board. Yeah. Okay. And we will move from the consent agenda. I'm sorry. Can we— Can we— Kathy, I thought that when we had talked about this, the—I have an appointment on the TYCO board, a District 1 appointment, and I have an appointment on the Health Facilities Authority. Those are—from that spreadsheet you gave me, that is what it said. It said District 1. It did not say board—I'm not sure what spreadsheet it is, but I looked at every one of these appointments, and the appointment for the Community Development Block Grant, the appointment for the Health Facilities Authority, and the appointment for the North Brevard Commission on Parks and Recreation. The way the legislation is written, those are board appointments. That's not what—the information that was given. So what about the TYCO? TYCO is your—that is a district appointment. As I said, the TYCO and the Marine Advisory Council, those are just acknowledgments from the board. You made those appointments. Those are District 1 commissioner appointments. And so those are done? Those two. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. We will move to item G, public comments, and we have three cards. Jeanette Egerton is our first card. Thank you, Mr. Feltner, for taking our calls. Go ahead. We can hear you when you're up at the— Oh, okay. I'm Jeanette Egerton, and Pat is going to pass out some information. I live at 1725 Morning Glory Drive, Melbourne, Florida. You might want to get you a little bit closer to that mic. You might want to pull it down a little bit. The speaker prior to you was— How about that? —tall. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, so I'm going to read, if you don't mind. Um, we, the undersigned—we started a petition, um, for the trees that are going to be cut down, or they are planning to be cut down. There was some discussion about that in our community. Um, so we started a petition, um, and we got a hundred and—over 120 homes, um, out of 192, uh, in our community. So, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh part of our are not merely part of our landscape they are essential to our health beauty and character uh our of our neighborhood many of us choose to live here because of the rich tree canopy and sense of peace and connection to nature that it provides the mature oak tree is capable of supporting over 2300 species these trees provide vital food shelter and habitat for wildlife contributing to a thriving and balanced ecosystem in addition to their ecological importance these trees offer significant everyday benefits to residents they provide shade from the intense florida sun that we're all familiar with making our streets more walkable and enjoyable for families tree children and pets to help regulate temperatures reduce energy costs and enhance overall quality of life the removal of these trees would have lasting negative impacts including those already mentioned loss of wildlife habitat increased heat and reduced shade increased energy costs for residents decreased property values and neighborhood appeal one of the reasons that i bought in there was because of the beautiful oak trees if i haven't said that i want to make sure that i said that they're talking about 60 trees being taken out of the easement area and i'm not sure why so that's one of my questions at the at the end here this outcome was not what the residents want for our community nor what was envisioned at the time hammock trace hammock trace was developed we urge brevard county to look into nearby community communities such as titusville when thoughtful tree protection policies have been successfully where uh thoughtful tree protection policies have successfully be been implemented those citizen advocacy and city through citizen advocacy and city city leadership titusville established regulations which uh i i know they have them in place um i don't have the numbers of them uh at this point in time requiring preservation existing tree canopy protection of heritage trees of which we have many because we've been there for oh over 30 years um and the developer contributions towards tree mitigation these measures demonstrate that responsible development and environment preservation preservation can go hand in hand we can we believe community involvement is essential not just individual homes and decisions that shape our community we respectfully ask that you pause all plans to remove these trees engage is my time up yeah go ahead and finish that okay engage in residents to explore alternative solutions and consider implementing stronger tree protection tree protection measures um my question was simply how will we know what your decision is and how will we be kept uh apprised of that in the future and i have a question if i may um sir i think you have three cards on the trees and i'm happy to speak on it mark's happy to speak on it too um if we want if you prefer to do that or i'll say a couple things real quick um and you have a question so okay uh why don't we hear all three and then okay you would prefer that okay but i do have a question for you okay now i assume the top picture is a uh that's pat's oh we'll wait for pat yeah okay okay i think i know the answer but i thought i'd ask anyway thank you so much come on up uh patrick french thanks guys for letting us come here and talk i'm patrick french i'll just give you a quick history on me real quick i've been here since 1960 um south patrick shores i went joined the marine corps in 1980 retired in 2000 went to a place called viera it's in the core too long so when i came back i go what is that a new pond or something viera drove around with the wife we found that area over here in hammett trace i've been there for 26 years um and like she said the trees are just beautiful that that picture right there was sent to me by one of the neighbors i've got it i've got pitch more pictures but you guys don't have time to be looking at pictures all day long but it to me it's devastating i just don't like that picture it's devastating now this is a depiction like a photoshop picture where the trees right this is someone that from the neighbor that sent it to me to give me an idea and i why it would be like very yeah i've got great graphic yes sir i've got pictures here of one of our streets it looks like that but i just don't want to keep passing pictures out for you guys that's i'm just giving you an idea what's going on oh they're worth a thousand words they really are i can't sleep at night when i see that yeah because this place it's beautiful there it really is i've been there 26 years my tree is probably one of the bigger ones and it's only been shaved shaved because you can lift the side you guys know this you can lift the sidewalk cut the roots a little square and then you cement form it back up and boom it's done but mine's only been shaved once just shaved to make it level the other part of the sidewalk once in 26 years so what i'm saying there is um the trees here and there they're going to lift it's part you know they're getting big they're beautiful oaks but it doesn't happen all the time it's in intervals of every five years if they if they were to come out there and do the sidewalks and lift where they need to be lifted in front of the trees cut the roots i've seen a thousand times out here matter of fact they were just over at uh spyglass about three months ago doing it not hurting the trees and they were also last week they were over at crane creek not hurting the trees and it just kills me to see that picture i've looked at it too many times actually i don't even carry it with me anymore i just brought it for you guys but um there is places in our in our little community in hammock trace that needs to be either shaved or the sidewalk lifted and then voila the tree is still there and these trees are awesome they're just you know the kids play there the little people walk right over the dogs the babies i just couldn't imagine if i wanted to live in a desert i probably should have stayed in the marine corps by that picture that's just that's decimated it's just really it's ugly and that's not our neighborhood will never be the same i mean i've got a couple years left i guess but i'm just saying if they were to come and do say mine's lifting tiny but now after 26 years actually 30 because it's 95 they put it in i think but i would probably wouldn't be here if they did the sidewalks for say three panels of the cement i don't think it i don't think it would lift probably 15 20 years later and i hate to say it but i probably wouldn't be around by the time they had to do something to it again i don't want to lose our trees i really god lord man it's just those the picture says it all i don't have to say too much to you guys but the picture's just but other than that um that's pretty much all i got to say well perfect perfect i'm good thank you all right any questions for me no no questions very good thank you okay and i gave sir i gave you the uh my petition you got that right yes sir i have everything and i'll speak in a couple minutes after the last speaker all right i'm good thank you yes sir chelsea true mine isn't about trees that's okay oh okay so do you want me something else it's not about this agenda okay we'll wait then okay thanks for letting me know that okay good let's bring this back to the board well uh there's a neighborhood in hammock trace and it is a lovely neighborhood it basically if you were to take spyglass uh all the way to where uh it intersects morel and go across um hang a right you're going to be in hammock trace uh have friends in there i went in uh there last week and i spoke with pat i think on good friday we we talked and uh and i met with a couple of your neighbors and went out there and walked around on the sidewalks and the and the short of it is uh and they do have majestic beautiful oak trees that are 30 years old because i think that neighborhood is about about 30 years old and the trees are between the sidewalk and the street so you have that thin strip of grass and that's where they they put the trees conversely in my neighborhood they put two live oaks in all of our front yards now i had to remove mine because buckled the driveway caused other problems after the 04 hurricanes you know all these sorts of things we all deal with with oak trees if you have them but they are beautiful trees there's no debating that fact so the situation out there is the county does take care of the sidewalks they're not behind a gate and so we have sidewalks now they're raised up so you have ada uh concerns with that now they can grind some tops of of sidewalks but there are definitely some areas that are going to have to be addressed i went out there and walked with one neighbor and there's five inches um that's that's not shaving the top of the sidewalk talked with mark about this just so we all understand nothing's moving forward today we're all on pause um until we can we can figure it out and i think we spoke uh the county doesn't want to go out there and cut all the trees down i would just suggest that everybody is a lot cheaper if we don't have to do that so we're going to find the the good way to do it uh there's definitely going to have to be some root trimming uh to deal with the sidewalks and now i've heard this term where you can lift the sidewalk up trim the root put the sidewalk back down i don't i don't think the county quite thinks that it happens like that i think you have to re-pour right okay so and there are there are places in century i mean since i've been a commissioner where we've had to report individual segments and when i first got here interlocken was finishing up that ditch work and several pieces of the sidewalk individual were broken because heavy equipment was driving across and doing the ditch work and so that went on for a while i will say that the the contractor that county had that time did a did a very good job of getting out there pretty quick and doing it so we want to be very respectful make sure we we do it right but i think my office is trying to plan a meeting with with your residents um here and we're going to do that okay with your your the uh your our contacts for that okay and we're going to do that before they move forward with any plan okay so that's where we are today all right so i have questions and comments and thank you for being here uh long i was a long time resident viera um and in this case we experienced it as well we have a beautiful oak tree in the middle of our yard between the house was between the house and the sidewalk i didn't realize we had between the sidewalk and the road that even complicates factors um and same thing sidewalk is lifted it's amazing what oaks in florida this part of florida will do to raise sidewalks probably because we have a high water table and um so i've lived this issue still live it i'm a property owner in viera so i'm very much part of your your community commissioner so i appreciate what you do there um and a couple questions about this this is a huge issue and of course we all know uh in rockless drive the tree battles there that was legendary that still is still is a legendary battle this is an issue that will not go away and ultimately will affect all districts um one of the things that comes to my mind and i've thought this that maybe we need to look at our subdivision codes our site plan approval codes that whenever a sidewalk's put in that it's put in properly and included in that would maybe the need to put in what we call tree tree wells a thickened footer on the edge of the sidewalk between where any tree would be planted to help create a a wall to prevent those roots from going right under the sidewalk and lift it up um that's just a thought and maybe when we look at our codes that we might want to evaluate that from this point going forward um and then my second question is um would i assume the county would bear the the cost of doing all those repairs um and what would be the revenue source would that be maybe an mstu um tax that would benefit the local residents and maybe we should apply a certain percentage of our mstu to fixing these problems i also and thirdly i would love to see a poll from the neighborhood uh it's a great picture great how many want to keep the trees how many will take them out it'd be interesting just i'm going to concede that election i will i will i will concede that point yeah uh and i know the results of it really yeah absolutely i i think probably most folks could agree hey we've got a few definitely problematic areas that we got to address and so i want to be sympathetic um to to the rest that they're all not all sort of um just broadly done so let's address the the key things i've heard the border type situation that you're describing with keeping the roots from doing this again um but uh now i will say a couple so it's 30 years old so i'm probably we're seeing the manifestation of 30 years of of root growth and if we could address these things they're probably gonna pat i hope we're all uh still around when um when if if if roots uh do this again but um probably take care of the lion's share of it um i think to your point we were talking about code and such i don't think the county allows for these trees to be that close now i mean in the modern neighborhoods you know that's a problem and and so i think our staff um make sure there's enough setback for all that and it's not just the sidewalk tube by the way i mean they got utilities there i was out there looking at the water meters and and um all of those things uh the one good part i noticed and just happenstance really i guess uh and that i noticed but you know thinking about rockledge drive to your point it doesn't seem they have a height problem right so it's not you know a truck's going through there and hitting uh the limbs that was a different thing you know in rockledge it's it's not always just what's happening underneath or always what's on top it's kind of a combination of both so i think their problem is exclusively um roots but i i think we can get there and and find a a solution that the neighborhood's going to and and not have a liability problem for the county i mean ultimately that's where we have to be if again if they were behind a gate wouldn't be having this conversation interesting but we look forward to hearing your report i know the constituents are good hands i'm looking forward to they come back this definitely has a county-wide um impact and so we're really interesting this is a big issue i know i work but this base at the cape and um at our park there at the astronaut memorial we had massive destruction of all of our walkways and had to rip them out and put a gravel uh replacement that seems to be working but these oak trees are powerful it's amazing what they can do yeah in tallahassee yes so i'm interested to fascinating to hear what you come back with okay good and thank you for being here that's why we have a public part of the agenda it's very informative okay now true chelsea did i is it chelsea yes no it's not it's just my readings not the best in the world i'm tight for myself um my name is chelsea true and i am a mara island residents i wanted to speak today about public trust in the process especially as it relates to active rezoning matters currently before this board over the past several months residents have been following a rezoning case 25z 00054 and that case has now gone through multiple continuances with explanations that the project is still evolving due to land acquisition and outreach at the same time public records show that the applicants registered lobbyist has had multiple contacts with county leadership while this matter remains unresolved additionally we became aware that this same individual is under contract with the county for state lobbying services and that contract appears to include provisions related to conflicts and restrictions on lobbying on behalf of private developers during the term of the agreement i'm not making any accusations but from a resident's perspective when these overlapping roles exist it raises questions about how those provisions are being interpreted and whether appropriate disclosures have been made additionally there are still open questions about how this project would function from an access and infrastructure standpoint for example based on publicly available information i have not been able to locate any fdot permit or application related to the proposed access points associated with this development and i've also spoken to the project manager for this specific project if key elements like access and traffic mitigations depend on approvals that are not yet in place it adds to the concern that the project may still be evolving in ways that are not fully visible to the public when a public when a project continues to change between hearings and residents are trying to understand what it is actually being proposed it creates a perception that the full picture is not always clear in real time perception matters because when residents are showing up asking questions and still struggling to get a consistent understanding of the project it can erode confidence in the process itself i am simply asking for clarity and transparency as this application moves forward i respectfully ask that any material changes as well as any relevant disclosures and outstanding approvals be clearly presented so that both the board and the public can evaluate the matter in full confidence and i also beg you to give weight to mirrors unanimous no and the no majority vote for planning and zoning twice and the continuous community outreach to ensure that we get heard thank you do we have any questions i have one just a request yeah that your concern be put in writing so we can have our county attorney yes it will be okay great as soon as i leave here okay good thank you all right thank you so much thank you okay that concludes our first section of our public comments now we will move on to h public hearings h1 okay good morning mr chair h1 is permission to participate and accept the u.s department of justice edward byrne memorial justice assistant grant this is an item you see every year this is the second time it's been in front of you the last meeting is request this public hearing this is for the sheriff's office to apply for the grant the award will be 48 000 excuse me except the grant it'd be 48 444 the award will enhance criminal investigations by funding a deputy agent position that focuses on forensic fraud referring to crimes in which somebody wrongfully obtains and uses another person's personal data make a motion to prove second motions motion second all in favor say yay yay yay carries unanimously thank you h2 good morning uh board uh h2 is a petition of vacated portion of a public utility easement it is south of highway 520 west of south courtney on merit island mr mathis is the uh owner uh district 2 and they're requesting a portion of a public utility easement to be vacated to allow an existing storage uh facility to remain uh that was discovered during a unrelated uh code enforcement case uh there's no objections okay is there a motion okay second uh a motion second uh all in favor say yay yay yay yay carries unanimously thank you h3 there is no h3 i'd had to turn the page okay i unfinished business i won request approval to advertise request for proposal for a boating infrastructure study we do have one card uh rick heffelfinger rick heffelfinger d1 again sorry for all my cards um my question was i believe this was was brought up earlier by commissioner atkinson about you know looking at reevaluating what i guess what we're charging for boat registration fees um i didn't i don't see any numbers i see it i see one number i see an 80 to 100 000 for a study um i see a reference to a county's that's dude getting old stinks county boating improvement fund and i was wondering if you could discuss or provide some information at your discretion how much is in the county boating improvement fund right now and what is going to be the return on investment for spending 80 to 100 000 to study the problem if there is a problem maybe that's just a reevaluation you do routinely i don't know but i just wonder why we're going to spend and i don't know what fund that comes out of general general fund maybe for the 80 to 100 don't know that it doesn't say that i don't think so i just wanted to know return on investment for a study and how much money we got and what do we think we need from the study to maybe maybe we're looking to grow that fund for some reason that was all i had and if you can answer those questions appreciate it okay um is jim an answer okay commissioner atkinson okay thank you matt so this item um is coming back to us because of our board direction march 17th so first of all thanks staff for getting it done so quickly i mean i expected it to be done in may but it's early which is fantastic the direction from the board was to prepare an rfp that will study the current state of a need for expansion county infrastructure that falls within the approved uses of the brevard boating improvement program so the money that this may cost somewhere between 80 and 100 000 um is in a fund that is specific to these things it is not general fund it has the potential to generate over 460 000 per year extra and it can only go to specific things so it can only go to providing maintaining or operating recreational channel marking and other waterway markers public boat ramps lifts and hoists marine railways boat piers docks mooring buoys and other public launching facilities and removing derelict vessels and debris that specifically impede boat access not including the dredging of canals also for removing vessels and floating structures deemed hazardous so this is us getting approval to go out and get the study done um is there anything else that staff would like to say about that thank you commissioner good morning um i would like to add that this will actually help the department with planning for the next five ten years as we look at expending and obligating funds to different projects something that we'll be looking at for within the rfp is actually a prioritization regarding some of those needs that we have moving forward okay thank you all right any other questions or discussion may i make a motion yes so i'd like to make a motion to approve the advertisement of the request for proposal for boating infrastructure study authorize the county manager to execute a contract with the consultant recommended by the selection and negotiation committee and authorize the county manager to approve the necessary budget change requests second motion and a second all in favor say yay yay motion goes unanimously thank oh wait there's a name sorry there's a name by commissioner feltner passes four to one thank you okay that takes us to j1 j1 j1 yes j1 public safety here good morning item j1 write-off of uncollectible ambulance debt associated with emergency medical services accounts for fiscal years 2024 and 2025 in accordance with bcc 37 brevard county fire rescue refers appropriate delinquent accounts to contracted collection agencies for further recovery actions for all these accounts this action does not preclude continued collection efforts in future years for the average of the two-year write-off rate it's an average of 39.6 percent with our seven-year average being a 41 percent fire rescue request board approval in accordance with resolution number 79-21 for the fiscal years 2024 and 2025 write-offs of uncollectible ems accounts receivable and the closure of accounts associated with change healthcare and ems management and consultants okay we have one card i think um uh rick heffelfinger again yeah rick heffelfinger district one here's my concern we're writing off which means the county is not getting or ems is not getting money for services that you provided i'm not gonna look at him i i assume i'll make the assumption and we know what happens when you make assumptions i'm assuming that that's a true statement so those guys are working hard getting paid they're picking people up is i think it's just ems picking people up and those people are are are welching on their bill i i think that's you can clarify if that's true so that means i think that instead of the people receiving the service paying for the service the taxpayers are because we're not shorting their paychecks they're still doing their job that amount of write-off really bothers me i don't i don't know if you're writing off you know when like medicare or something makes a minimum payment i because insurance is is a mystery to me still but when they say hey you guys bill him 400 bucks for an ambulance ride i don't know what it is so and then medicare pays 200 you eat 200 really because you said your costs were five and what do you eat 300 my math is a little foggy this morning so is that what we're writing off is something we never anticipated getting because insurance didn't cover it or are we actually issuing a bill saying it's your responsibility you rode the ambulance and they just go i don't know i mean and and collections is collections against an individual person i mean they're getting those are all good questions we get a response from our chief yeah that's that was kind of my question because okay that's a lot of money that's not coming into this county and i hate to think that taxpayers are breaking up the difference so good point by mr heffelfinger the uh medicare medicaid tricare uh contracted rates uh that is that's a separate that's all separate from this so uh i'll come up with a better word than you that's people that either can or won't pay their bill is what this number that we see here today and i think there was a third question and i don't remember what it was well i i guess i was oh and you're being compensated for the difference though i mean we're we're making it up to you uh part part of my statement too was uh they will continue with the collection agency and that number doesn't preclude continued collections say somebody's making a five dollar a month payment uh that will continue to trickle in but anybody nobody get them no go ahead people that didn't respond and i assume they get a lien on their their credit right or did they get a lien from the county for no i'm not sure but so they're financially impacted but you're going to say they didn't respond there's no chance they're going to pay and you're writing it off is that what the write-off part is it's a write-off to clear the books today but they will continue collection efforts moving forward on these accounts okay so you'll continue to ping them but you're just going to say we assume we may not get anything exactly and if you do you report that as additional income the next year that you say hey we got some of that back okay but again i'm really concerned about the the size of what the county is expending resources for and saying that i don't know do we need to be meaner to people who don't respond to their bills you can't you can't deny them service i understand that it's a it's a you know the doctor must provide services you can't tell them no get your own ride call the uber i don't know how you deal with that it's it's again it's a but it but it does affect my taxes i think if we're making up a difference that's all it is a tough issue i have a question so um this is a little bit of a bookkeeping thing then we're writing off kind of what we would call bad debit expense and yes keeping okay but we still will make efforts to collect yes another question i just want to clarify because it did come up will there be a lien placed placed on their property for lack of pay i don't don't think so no sir i don't think we're doing that in this particular case no yeah do any jurisdictions do that do we know now that i'm aware of yeah okay okay i have a question yes um and so when you say that we're continuing efforts to retrieve the money that even includes litigation is that correct it can yes ma'am up to litigation our collections agency has a process to find that they will go through based on the time and the amount and uh then it's their call as they use those processes of how far they want to go and when it comes to the hacking that went on um with that third party agency we're still going through that process of trying to retrieve those funds and all of that yes ma'am and that's another issue we didn't even talk about i know in the briefing this is this is the outgrowth of a cyber attack i don't know if you're aware of that i did i did see the notice and i i just stuck to that page about i i didn't know if the cyber attack but they so somebody somebody ripped off money from the county helps yes yes sir chair good morning board um there it's a separate issue but connected um the change health care experienced a cyber hack cyber attack in 2024 we're going through the process right now to identify the impact of those revenues that potentially could be lost um part of that is working with the county attorney's office right now for demand to get that data uh being brought back to the county once we get that data we'll be able to analyze it and go through our processes potential audits to determine that magnitude and the proper steps forward going forward yes i hope you guys make the company that let that cyber attack happen pay your lawyer fees morris needs to get money for them for his effort not from us so go get a morris it's a serious problem all right thank you so much thank you for answering it again commissioner could mr chair yes yes question as he's wrapping up there um how are indigents handled right um so you have nothing to bill or do you bill medicaid how do how are we paid for the medicaid medicare is the contracted rate uh i want to say it's tom would know it better i think it's around 250 or 300 dollars is their standard rate that they will pay and that's the contracted federal rate okay so that's 30 potentially of what somebody else is going to pay when they're that's what the federal government will pay us for um indigent folks what about folks who are out of town so i mean they don't have anything to lean um i don't know that question came up about leaning your property i'm not sure that you can do that for uh ambulance ride but certainly uh collections probably report to credit agencies right i don't i don't believe that this this one does yes because of the nature of yes sir of medical okay um but that has to be a problem uh when you have out of town folks they're just not even a resident of florida does that does that change our ability to collect from them versus no sir our collection agency can go nationwide um to to try to find those folks uh some of the issues might be if we don't have good information contact information when we provide the service you know if they don't provide a detailed address or a phone number or that kind of stuff and then our collections agencies try to run those folks down but yes sir we do we every ambulance ride their bill that we produce that's not paid for goes to the collection agency and they they make a due diligence to try to collect and i think maybe it was mentioned uh refresh my recollection here um when someone's in a coastal ambulance and if they didn't pay then that's largely coastal's problem 100% coastal's problem okay okay thank you mr chair okay thank you okay well i think we need a motion do we have moved to approve second the motion second to approve all in favor say yay yay carries unanimously thank you okay uh j2 thank you mr chair j2 is a proposed settlement of a case known as atlantic housing partners at alvi brevard county that was filed in the united states district court for the middle district of florida in 2023 i believe yes and at the end of 2023 uh commissioners feltner and commissioners goodson were the only ones on the board when the events giving rise to that litigation happened but essentially the board at that time denied a request from someone who had gone from through the housing finance authority process for tax-exempt private activity bond financing for proposed development uh within the city of west melbourne the board heard strong objections from the city as well as area residents and took those into account and did not elect to give the preferential bond financing treatment to that developer developer sued under the florida and federal fair housing acts claiming 14 million we prevailed at summary judgment they have appealed the case to the 11th circuit court of appeals in federal court we had a mediation last week and have agreed to settle the case with them paying 125 000 of our fees and costs and dismissing the appeal and lawsuit and that was accepted by our outside claims adjuster and i strongly urge the commission to accept that as well if there aren't questions if there aren't questions um or any other debate i'll make a motion to approve second there's a motion a second to approve all in favor say yay yay opposed carries unanimous thank you so much item j3 all right approving agenda transparency through financial disclosure i do have a question perhaps a point of order on this now didn't we vote on this before you did previously and so because it's a motion for reconsideration the board follows bcc 97 and under bcc 97 the board follows robert's rules of order generally under robert's rules you can only make a motion for reconsideration at the same meeting at which a vote is taken so in order to hear this item you would need to do two things first number one pursuant to bcc 97 3k you would have to have a majority vote of the board to suspend robert's rules of order and then number two a separate motion to reconsider your action at the prior meeting and if both of those pass then you can address the subject of the agenda i have a point of order on that um so what my request today is let me finish i had a point okay let's let's dispose of that first so under robert's rules of order if you have a motion to reconsider it must be made by a member of the prevailing party isn't that correct that's correct but in this instance if the board waives robert's rules to even consider it then then that doesn't apply either would apply that okay all right so i think what we need either is a motion from the prevailing partner reconsider or a motion to not follow robert's rules of orders and there's a reason for that as to prevent you from just hashing and rehashing and rehashing these items do you have a question i do um i i object that this is um reconsideration um i'm uh what i'm doing is um under the board authority we have the authority to make changes to policy and what the motion was at the previous meeting was to um direct staff to to do this and so now this time i'm proposing the changes and so i feel like that's two different things mr chair if i may address that the requested action is once again to direct staff to revise the policy and reading from the commissioner's agenda item it says the item is being brought back for the board's reconsideration so i believe the reconsideration rules apply that's the board's and as chairman as chairman i agree with that and i was going to make that a ruling as chair so i think what's in order is if if anybody wants to consider this a motion would be in order to waive robert's rules of order or a motion to from the prevailing party to reconsider this item i'd like to make a motion to um wave robert's rules is there a second a motion dies for lack of a second so our original action stands um from the last meeting okay we will now enter we don't hear that it's not being heard okay we will go to our second uh public um there's a card on j3 j3 is is not being heard it was it it was disposed of in the last meeting and it died you can you can comment whatever you want to there's no limit under public comment what you did we um did you have a he has a card already yeah okay rick helpful finger rick helpful finger district one now that that item's off the agenda i'd like to talk about it a little waving robert's rules how many times have i seen i don't have a specific list where we're pretty fast and loose with robert's rules around here maybe it was previous more i think chairman altman you do a better job but this item was trying to push for some transparency she's on her way out can't you just cut her a little slack and hear the item and reconsider she's trying to leave something that she started and she's she's got to go now not her choice she's got an opportunity and you guys will block it at every opportunity i hear a lot of pushback she's leaving give her gift at least don't try to block her her agenda that she promised to us that that she was going to get us some transparency you don't seem to want to do anything with that it looks bad the optics are bad that you guys don't really want to hear from us i don't know if that's true again i assume you make an ass out of you and me when we do that but it it's it's for it's for her constituents she promised this stuff but you guys don't seem to want to do it for i don't know what your constituents think i would be concerned you look like you're blocking transparency and openness and and care showing some concern for for your because this is not just for d1 this is for everybody in the county who wants to come up with do a seer have some time have a policy that says it's going to be heard and and you're going to actually get some action and you're going to get some you're going to get in writing see you make a comment through through the uh public uh yeah you know just going through and making a suggestion to the county is that written down anywhere that's why i said with the garbage i'm going to follow up and say when the garbage contract comes up i said hey i i made some suggestions can we talk about those i i hope that mr walker is keeping that and pass that along but i don't know that the seer is a documented thing it gets you guys either say yay or nay and then people can go wow i tried to help i guess i'll try again next year or hey you're right they they don't do that maybe there's another an avenue but but but not not supporting that program looks bad it does that's that's all i had to say about that one um the uh you know i got minutes and i yeah all right well i'll catch that next time but again that i really don't like the fact that it seems like ever since she's been in this position and we hate to see her go and we hope we get somebody that continues that but boy you guys are just brutal to her that's all i had thank you for your public comment is there any other cards for public comment none um we will go to board reports county manager uh yes good morning mr chair commissioners um i have a handout um for each of you that uh item to talk about um i already gave a copy to the clerk's office um with uh commissioner lord uh commissioner uh delaney uh leaving on may 2nd uh i just put together a little sheet uh more talking points for me to discuss this with you options for operating in district one office during vacant the vacancy um we've had this case back in uh commissioner lober i believe it was 2022 and i've already forgot the dates and then we also had the same issue with commissioner zonka in 24 23 or 24 of how to keep the office operating and the staff members so we see four different um discussion points or four different ideas one is to retain the remaining district one staff member kristin lordy uh the other two uh members have uh resigned they'll be resigned they'll be out of uh they'll be no longer employed by may 2nd uh item number two is an appointed interim district one staff members appointing authority for the office idea number three is other commissioner offices take the phone calls emails and other communications idea number four is county staff takes phone calls emails and other communications underneath we just put some talking points in there the things to consider of you know how often would you have the office open how would citizen input be routed to other commissioners if it's handled by other commission offices what do you do when there's a policy issue of staffs handling it or how do you go about appointing staff members um the what you what we're looking for is for the board to give a direction on who the appointing authority staff wise would be for the office why it's vacant i remind you that uh let's see under commissioner lober it was in april and the governor did not fill that slot and that you know it got filled by election in november commissioner zonka i believe it was just a couple weeks um between that and that's office was filled by uh governor desantis so i would recommend or remind the commissioners that we should be planning that that office should be vacant till the november um when the swearing is that which is like the third tuesday of november if the governor appoints somebody earlier than that commissioner going to appoint their own staff members at that time i'm open to directions and ideas i um just want to bring forward that um lober when this happened um there was no chance given for him to uh give any input or bring this conversation up due to the way that um you know that situation happened his quick um exit and commissioner zonka she was the one who brought it up um for her for her staff and um so i'm just i just want to throw it out there that i was willing to bring this up and i was told that the county manager was bringing it up so i'm wondering about that about why that was the case when other commissioners had been afforded the opportunity to um make decisions about their office um you know when and and i'm not being afforded that that same opportunity um kristin has been somebody that's been in my office and she's been um incredible to not only myself but to the constituents she's um you know almost never taken any time off she's you know she's always there and professional and she's um she knows the community and uh especially during this time of vacancy i think that for district one it would be um it would be a good thing for them if they had a familiar face in my office um just because they've already built the relationships they've um you know she's she's done the work and so uh that would be my recommendation to retain her um that way uh you know when the new commissioner comes in there's some cohesive um change of power and whatnot and at that time the new commissioner can make their own decision about staff that would be my recommendation okay is there any other discussion on that if not i think you should um put that in the form of a motion i think the reason staff brought this to us is is appropriate because they acknowledge you're not the one that would make this decision it's got to come from the board itself so i think if the staff is looking for direction the board needs to give them direction well can i ask a technical question in in lieu of some motion or what have you today what what then happens so if the board doesn't do anything first of all the commissioner is still the appointing authority until may 2nd so the board can't do anything that's effective immediately the board could only do something effective following that um following that if there's no action this up after i'm sorry i didn't mean to interrupt but no problem we don't have to take action today we could bring it up after the may 2nd time frame you may sir you could take action today or you can bring it up at the next meeting on may 5 or however the board wishes to proceed but to the issue would be though that that may 2nd um that would be if my understanding is correct may 2nd because i'm no longer here it would also take away my appointment because it's a point of point of service position is that correct and so between may 2nd and may 5th my constituents wouldn't have anybody in the office to answer the phones no i think that um because your term doesn't expire on may 2nd you're just leaving the office i think at that point the board becomes the appointing authority and because miss lordy's already been appointed she would continue on until the board takes other action or appoints someone else as the appointing authority to take other action so if we did nothing nothing changes if you do nothing nothing changes with regard to miss lordy's position right okay and and so you could just revisit it at the may 5th meeting if that's my only my only thing is is that if if there is something different that's going to happen i i request respectfully that we do a kindness and we we don't leave this hanging because it's already been brought up now so you know i i think that it's only fair imagine if it was one of your chiefs of staff not knowing you know i like this i like to sort of split something um as part of this today okay we could give direction today for a letter formal letter to be sent to the governor requesting that an interim appointment be made i don't have to weigh in on on who or what i don't agree with that at all an interim appointment to to my seat well we're talking about possibly no i mean whether the governor is going to pick someone to serve it in the role or not i mean i think that's an excellent idea i don't think this should be saying who should be sitting in my seat i'm not saying i don't think he said who he didn't say no i just think the board we need to let the governor know whether the governor will yeah i think there's a question he certainly can whether he's not done that and he hasn't done that he has not done that historically well they they did do it with commissioner zonka right but if you look across the state historically i mean you know this no no actually it he doesn't sorry respectfully he he doesn't have to i think there's some question of shall isn't there the governor shall appoint or the or let me rephrase the appointment if there is one is the governor's to make it's the governor's to make and the constitution and the statutory do use the mandatory language shall but that does not mean there will be an appointment i i think that's an interesting legal question because i agree with commissioner feltoner i i i trust the governor my constituents do not want an appointment from the governor i'm just going to put that out there let me finish this is before the board it's improper for the public to be interrupting us as well as let's don't talk over each other let me finish my point i agree with commissioner feltoner i'd love to see the governor make this appointment i don't think this we can we can even we can even split it another way let me let me i hope everybody's seeing this on yeah hold on are you saying you don't want the governor absolutely not i want the people of d1 to decide who is their commissioner they're going to decide they will respectfully they will decide that in november that is going to happen it doesn't matter they still have to endure you have no idea what the constituents have had to endure over these years why the why do you think i got elected here why do you think i got elected here because these people out here haven't been listened to in decades they do not trust the government i don't know how much clearly people have to say that well the government governor also got elected overwhelmingly as well and i i think when the people my d1 constituents i can promise you they do not want an appointment from the governor commissioner she hasn't had the floor and then i was just going to make one last suggestion then i'll stop here we could just simply formally inquire whether an appointment is going to be made or not and if he responds to us no one will not be made we get with that information we can make a better decision on may 5th if he says an appointment is coming then we could also make a decision on may 5th of what to do with the office i mean just having some directive from the governor's office on that question i think would would be helpful for the board well just having no answer from the governor's office is is okay i agree difficult i think it's a good point something to add let's have commissioner access and have a voice here thank you i appreciate it i would just like to state for the records for the board to understand that i also would not support requesting the governor to make an appointment to this commission just want everybody to hear that okay again i think that's fine you can simply ask if one's going to happen if one's going to happen okay if one's not going to happen okay too now we have now we have that information we can make a better decision what we're that's all what we're talking about today and what we're what we're giving the given the opportunity to give direction on is my my staff and my office and so i personally don't think that we should be bugging the governor with this i don't think that the d1 constituents want an appointment from the governor and i think it should be just left alone and what we are talking about today is who is going to you know answer the phones and handle constituent services and things like that in my office between now and november the third tuesday of november and so what my recommendation would be would be to leave in place the person that my constituents knows um you know and and do that so that would be my motion to leave um kristin lorty as the point person for the d1 office from now until the uh new commissioner comes in okay uh there's a motion is there a second to the motion that motion dies for like a second i have another motion yes i'd like to make a motion that we bring this back to the may fifth meeting for discussion by the board i is there a second to that motion i'll second that there's a motion second discussion um first of all i have two one question and morris do we have to allow for public input because we're making motions not on this motion not if they're just moving it to the fifth they can have public input at the fifth okay um one thing that i would ask to consider again because think about it again if this was your chief of staff and would you want their their position to be unknown you know for another two and a half weeks and you know i just don't think that that's fair or a kindness to my staff that has served this district um loyally and fully um so i i really hope that this motion fails and we can continue further discussion today so that um kristin has some idea of what her future looks like and that doesn't have to hang over her head for a few more weeks uh any further debate all those in favor of the motion signify by saying yay yay opposed nay nay uh commissioner goodson i didn't hear i'm pardon me yay yay okay motion um passes on a four one vote with commissioner delaney voting against okay uh any other items under county manager's report no thank you thanks mr chair uh county attorney no report mr chair thank you report district one i have a question um would i be able to have my report last since it is my last meeting sure thank you district two none sir thank you uh district three no report district four uh i say two things we could still uh ask the chair even to call the office of the governor to ask if an appointment will be made you know you know i i don't think i need board approval to do that i don't think i don't think we need any commissioner can call the governor just trying to get an answer for the i agree i just just an answer a very simple answer it's going to happen or it's or it's not we i'm going to make that inquiry on a personal okay all right i i think that's good and uh so finally uh art show in wickham park uh this weekend it's always a great one so go to go to wickham park park and look at the many artists who will be there this weekend great okay i have no report and i think that concludes oh wait i'm sorry thank you i'm so sorry commissioner delaney thank you i'm so used to going to that chronological order that's okay um okay i got all mixed up all right i'm just gonna wing it um logan will you go to the next side um so we had a uh citizens engagement event the other day and it was really great we had it up in the space coast room um and where i went through and talked to the citizens from all over uh the county um about how do they get informed um so we walked through the um county website and i helped them all find you know the agenda where do you find the backup documents all that kind of stuff we had about 20 people there and they were all um really excited to learn about all this and that way they could get more informed and engaged uh with the county government and if you wouldn't mind going the next slide i have a sub stack with the same information and i'm not going to play the video but there is a video on there that walks you through how to go through the calendar and the agenda and find the backup details that way if anybody wants to get informed all this information is out there and um even though you have to it takes a little finagling to get used to the website it's not that hard and i know that there are loads of citizen advocates that are out there that would help walk anybody through um you could always contact me i'll help any anyone walk through this even after um i'm no longer in brevard um but definitely check out that sub stack if you're interested because it'll give you that tutorial to walk right through our our our website um if you wouldn't mind going to the next one i don't know if i have another another slide i think that's it um i also wanted to give a shout out to um lieutenant manley we had a resident that has a situation going on and he came with me because there was a police report that needed to be made and um i just got to give him a shout out the it's a very intense situation and just his professionalism his care and concern for our resident um and the situation uh you know it's it's not every day that you have a mayor a commissioner and a deputy in your living room so i just um really want to give him a shout out uh for just how fantastic he was and um showing that resident that you know he really cared about their situation and um the follow-through there um because this didn't get to be brought up um i just want to read a couple things um and give a little explanation about why i brought back that um financial transparency item and it's because of the overwhelming feedback i got from the community i got multiple multiple phone calls um after our last meeting in regard to that item just in shock and um i mean this one's from district one and they you know are in support this one's from uh merritt island and they were in some serious shock that that that item didn't go forward this one is uh i'm not sure where he's from but it came to all of our emails um district two i think it was because um commissioner goodson's staff member responded to him and then this one's from melbourne also supporting uh another one from melbourne and i didn't i don't know any of these people um except for one and so this is not you know like i galvanized people and said hey go email all the commissioners no this is just feedback that we got just from the people that were watching this meeting and um i i really hope and pray that this board can considers bringing this item back forward um and making this change because it's going to you know it it will really help people and i understand that you don't want the agendas to be too lengthy but um people are really trying to figure out um how to get informed and when you're not part of the government it's really difficult because you don't know who to call who to contact what what to do what websites are out there what resources are out there you have no idea um and so this is just one small thing that we could do to help our constituents get more informed and just because i didn't get to say it last uh last meeting i just really appreciate uh all the staff um i know at times you know we i asked for a lot from you all and um i just really appreciate the hard work and the information and the kindness the patience um that you all have given me and uh i i really appreciate that a lot um and board while we don't always agree all the time um it's truly been an honor to serve with you all and um i uh will always be praying for this board and for this community and uh thank you all so much and thank you for your willingness to serve uh i think that's uh includes the meeting um we will see you at one o'clock at the budget workshop looking forward to that commissioner felton or dice if you haven't been to the new olive tree in viera today's a beautiful day