The Full NBC News/MSNBC Democratic Debate In Las Vegas — NBC News

[0:01] Let us create the political revolution this country needs. [0:07] The stakes could not be higher. [0:09] We cannot afford to miss the mark or to miss this moment. [0:13] I will bring this country together instead of tearing it apart. [0:18] I can't do it alone. I need your help to climb that mountain. [0:21] And together we're going to beat Donald Trump. [0:24] 2020 is our time to change who makes the rules. [0:30] I am running to restore honor to our government and build a country that we can be proud of. [0:39] From NBC News, the Democratic presidential debate, live from Las Vegas, Nevada. [0:47] We're holding to Las Vegas. Everything is on the line tonight. [1:03] We're just three days before the critical Nevada caucuses. [1:06] Here with me on the stage tonight, NBC News political director and moderator of Meet the Press, Chuck Todd. [1:11] And NBC News chief White House correspondent and MSNBC anchor, Hallie Jackson. [1:17] Also joining us is Telemundo senior correspondent, Vanessa Ock. [1:21] And editor of the Nevada Independent, John Ralston, who has covered Nevada politics for more than three decades. [1:27] The rules are this tonight. [1:29] Candidates will get a minute 15 to answer each question and 45 seconds for follow-ups. [1:34] Now that the stage is narrowed to six candidates, we encourage each of you to directly engage with each other on the issues. [1:40] So let's get to our first question. [1:43] Since the last time you all shared the stage, Senator Sanders, a self-described Democratic socialist, [1:48] has surged into the lead nationally in the Democratic race. [1:51] And there's a new person on the stage tonight, Mayor Michael Bloomberg, [1:55] a former Republican who spent millions of his own dollars to run on this race. [2:00] What hasn't changed? [2:01] A majority of Democratic voters still say their top priority is beating President Trump. [2:07] Senator Sanders, the first question to you. [2:09] Mayor Bloomberg is pitching himself as a centrist who says he's best positioned to win in November. [2:15] Why is your revolution a better bet? [2:18] In order to beat Donald Trump, we're going to need the largest voter turnout in the history of the United States. [2:26] Mr. Bloomberg had policies in New York City of stop and frisk, [2:31] which went after African-American and Latino people in an outrageous way. [2:35] That is not a way you're going to grow voter turnout. [2:38] What our movement is about is bringing working class people together, [2:44] black and white and Latino, Native American, Asian American, [2:49] around an agenda that works for all of us and not just the billionaire class. [2:56] And that agenda says that maybe, just maybe, we should join the rest of the industrialized world, [3:03] guarantee health care to all people as a human right, [3:07] raise that minimum wage to a living wage of 15 bucks an hour, [3:11] and have the guts to take on the fossil fuel industry [3:15] because their short-term profits are not more important than the future of this planet [3:21] and the need to combat climate change. [3:23] Those are some of the reasons we have the strongest campaign to defeat Donald Trump. [3:28] So, Mayor Bloomberg, can Senator Sanders beat President Trump, [3:32] and how do you want to respond to what else he said? [3:34] I don't think there's any chance of the senator beating President Trump. [3:38] You don't start out by saying, [3:40] I've got 160 million people. [3:43] I'm going to take away the insurance plan that they love. [3:46] That's just not a ways that you go and start building the coalition [3:50] that the Sanders camp thinks that they can do. [3:55] I don't think there's any chance whatsoever. [3:57] And if he goes and is the candidate, [4:00] we will have Donald Trump for another four years, [4:03] and we can't stand that. [4:05] Senator Warren? [4:06] I'd like to talk about who we're running against. [4:09] A billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse-faced lesbians. [4:14] And no, I'm not talking about Donald Trump. [4:17] I'm talking about Mayor Bloomberg. [4:19] Democrats are not going to win [4:22] if we have a nominee who has a history of hiding his tax returns, [4:28] of harassing women, [4:29] and of supporting racist policies like redlining and stop and frisk. [4:35] Look, I'll support whoever the Democratic nominee is. [4:38] But understand this. [4:40] Democrats take a huge risk [4:42] if we just substitute one arrogant billionaire for another. [4:47] This country has worked for the rich for a long time [4:51] and left everyone else in the dirt. [4:54] It is time to have a president [4:56] who will be on the side of working families [4:59] and be willing to get out there and fight for them. [5:01] That is why I am in this race, [5:03] and that is how I will beat Donald Trump. [5:05] Senator Klobuchar, [5:07] Senator Klobuchar, [5:10] what do you think the path is from this stage to the White House? [5:13] What works? [5:14] I think the path is a high voter turnout. [5:17] I'm the one on this stage that had the highest voter turnout [5:19] of any state in the country when I led the ticket, [5:23] as well as bringing in rural and suburban voters. [5:27] And I've done that as well. [5:28] And I'm the only one with the receipts [5:30] to have done that in Republican congressional districts [5:33] over and over again. [5:34] But I want to say this. [5:36] I actually welcomed Mayor Bloomberg to the stage. [5:38] I thought that he shouldn't be hiding behind his TV ads. [5:42] And so I was all ready for this big day. [5:45] And then I looked at the memo from his campaign staff this morning, [5:48] and it said that he actually thought that three of us [5:51] should get out of the way. [5:53] That is what his campaign said, [5:55] because we should pave the way for him to become the nominee. [6:00] You know, I have been told as a woman, [6:02] as someone that maybe no one thought [6:03] was still going to be standing up on this stage, [6:06] but I am because of pure grit [6:08] and because of the people out there, [6:09] I've been told many times to wait my turn [6:12] and to step aside. [6:13] And I'm not going to do that now. [6:15] And I'm not going to do that [6:16] because a campaign memo from Mayor Bloomberg [6:19] said this morning that the only way [6:21] that we get a nominee is if we step aside for him. [6:25] I think we need something different than Donald Trump. [6:28] I don't think you look at Donald Trump and say, [6:30] we need someone richer in the White House. [6:32] Thank you. [6:32] Mayor Bloomberg, there's a lot for you to respond to there. [6:34] So here's your opportunity. [6:35] I think we have two questions to face tonight. [6:40] One is who can beat Donald Trump? [6:42] And number two, who can do the job [6:44] if they get into the White House? [6:46] And I would argue that I am the candidate [6:49] that can do exactly both of those things. [6:52] I'm a New Yorker. [6:54] I know how to take on an arrogant con man [6:57] like Donald Trump that comes from New York. [7:00] I'm a mayor, or was a mayor. [7:03] I know how to run a complicated city, [7:05] the biggest, most diverse city in this country. [7:08] I'm a manager. [7:10] I knew what to do after 9-11 [7:12] and brought the city back stronger than ever. [7:15] And I'm a philanthropist [7:16] who didn't inherit his money, but made his money. [7:19] And I'm spending that money to get rid of Donald Trump, [7:23] the worst president we have ever had. [7:26] And if I can get that done, [7:27] it will be a great contribution to America and to my kids. [7:31] Vice President Biden lets you weigh in here. [7:33] In terms of who can beat Donald Trump, [7:36] NBC did a poll yesterday. [7:38] It says Joe Biden is best equipped to beat Donald Trump. [7:41] That's what your poll said. [7:43] And it said that I can beat him in those toss-up states, too, [7:47] those states we have to win. [7:48] I'm ahead by eight points across the board. [7:51] So in terms of being able to beat Donald Trump, [7:53] I'm better positioned, according to your poll, [7:55] than anybody else to beat Donald Trump. [7:57] Number one. [7:58] Number two, the mayor makes an interesting point. [8:01] The mayor says that he has a great record, [8:04] that he's done these wonderful things. [8:06] Well, the fact of the matter is, [8:08] he has not managed his city very, very well when he was there. [8:12] He didn't get a whole lot done. [8:13] He had to stop and frisk, [8:15] throwing close to five million young black men up against the wall. [8:20] And when we came along in our administration, [8:22] President Obama, [8:23] and said we're going to send in a moderator to a mediator to stop it, [8:27] he said that's unnecessary. [8:28] So we're going to get a chance to talk about the mayor's record. [8:32] But in terms of who is best prepared to beat Donald Trump, [8:36] look at your poll and what it says. [8:38] Mayor Buttigieg, you'd like to weigh in. [8:40] Yes, we've got to wake up as a party. [8:43] We could wake up two weeks from today, [8:45] the day after Super Tuesday, [8:47] and the only candidates left standing [8:49] will be Bernie Sanders and Mike Bloomberg, [8:52] the two most polarizing figures on this stage. [8:55] And most Americans don't see where they fit [8:59] if they've got to choose between a socialist [9:01] who thinks that capitalism is the root of all evil [9:04] and a billionaire who thinks that money ought to be the root of all power. [9:08] Let's put forward somebody who actually lives and works [9:13] in a middle-class neighborhood in an industrial midwestern city. [9:16] Let's put forward somebody who's actually a Democrat. [9:19] Look, you shouldn't have to choose between one candidate [9:31] who wants to burn this party down [9:33] and another candidate who wants to buy this party out. [9:36] We can do better. [9:37] Senator Sanders, are you polarizing? [9:41] If speaking to the needs and the pain [9:45] of a long-neglected working class is polarizing, [9:49] I think you got the wrong word. [9:51] What we are trying finally to do [9:54] is to give a voice to people [9:57] who after 45 years of work [10:00] are not making a nickel more than they did 45 years ago. [10:05] We are giving a voice to people who are saying [10:07] we are sick and tired of billionaires like Mr. Bloomberg [10:10] seeing huge expansions of their wealth [10:13] while a half a million people sleep out on the street tonight. [10:17] And that's what we are saying, Pete, [10:19] is maybe it's a time for the working class of this country [10:22] to have a little bit of power in Washington [10:25] rather than your billionaire campaign contributors. [10:28] All right, look, first of all, [10:30] my campaign is fueled by hundreds of thousands of contributors. [10:38] Including 46 billionaires. [10:40] Among the hundreds of thousands of contributors. [10:44] And look, we've got to unite this country [10:47] to deal with these issues. [10:48] You're not the only one who cares about the working class. [10:51] Most Americans believe we need to empower workers. [10:55] As a matter of fact, [10:56] you're the one who is at war [10:57] with the culinary union right here in Las Vegas. [11:00] More union support than you have ever dreamed of. [11:06] We have the support of unions all across this country. [11:08] Yeah, but the division I'm putting forward [11:10] has the support of the American people. [11:12] We can actually deliver health care [11:14] without taking it away from anyone. [11:15] We can actually empower workers [11:17] and lift wages without further polarizing this country. [11:20] And we can build a movement [11:22] without having legions of our supporters [11:24] online and in person. [11:27] All right, Kennedy, thank you. [11:28] I think it is important here. [11:28] Democratic figures and union leaders alike. [11:30] Senator Warren, I have a question for you. [11:32] On Sunday, on Meet the Press, [11:33] Vice President Biden accused Senator Sanders' supporters [11:36] of bullying union leaders here [11:38] with, quote, [11:38] vicious, malicious, misogynistic things. [11:42] You said Democrats cannot build an inclusive party [11:45] on a foundation of hate. [11:46] Are Senator Sanders and his supporters [11:48] making it harder for Democrats to unify in November? [11:51] Look, I have said many times before, [11:54] we are all responsible for our supporters [11:56] and we need to step up. [11:59] That's what leadership is all about. [12:01] But the way we are going to lead this country [12:03] and beat Donald Trump [12:05] is going to be with a candidate [12:07] who has rock-solid values [12:09] and who actually gets something done. [12:11] When Mayor Bloomberg was busy [12:13] blaming African-Americans and Latinos [12:16] for the housing crash of 2008, [12:18] I was right here in Las Vegas, [12:21] literally just a few blocks down the street [12:24] holding hearings on the banks [12:26] that were taking away homes [12:28] from millions of families. [12:30] That's when I met Mr. Estrada, [12:32] one of your neighbors. [12:34] He came in to testify [12:35] and he said he thought he'd done everything right [12:37] with Wells Fargo. [12:39] But what had happened? [12:40] They took away his house [12:41] in a matter of weeks. [12:43] This man stood there and cried [12:46] while he talked about what it was like [12:48] to tell his two little daughters [12:50] that they might not be in their elementary school, [12:53] that they might be living out of their van. [12:55] I spent the next years making sure [12:57] that would never happen again. [13:00] Wall Street fought us every inch of the way [13:03] on a consumer agency. [13:05] They lost and I won. [13:07] We need a candidate with unshakable values [13:10] and a candidate [13:11] who can actually get something done [13:12] for working people. [13:13] Thank you, Senator. [13:14] That's why I'm in this race [13:15] and that's how I'll beat Donald Trump. [13:17] Senator Sanders. [13:18] We have over 10.6 million people on Twitter [13:24] and 99.9% of them [13:28] are decent human beings, [13:30] are working people, [13:31] are people who believe in justice, [13:34] compassion and love. [13:35] And if there are a few people [13:39] who make ugly remarks, [13:41] who attack trade union leaders, [13:43] I disown those people. [13:45] They are not part of our movement. [13:48] But let me also say [13:49] what I hope my friends up here will agree with [13:52] is that if you look at the Wild West [13:55] of the internet, [13:56] talk to some of the African-American women [13:59] on my campaign. [14:00] Talk to Senator Nina Turner. [14:02] Talk to others [14:03] and find the vicious, racist, sexist attacks [14:07] that are coming their way as well. [14:10] So I would hope that all of us understand [14:12] that we should do everything we possibly can [14:15] to end the viciousness [14:17] and ugliness on the internet. [14:19] Our campaign is about issues. [14:21] It's about fighting for the working families [14:23] and the middle class. [14:25] It is not about vicious attacks on other people. [14:28] Senator, when you say that you disowned these attacks [14:31] and you didn't personally direct them, [14:33] I believe you. [14:33] Well, thank you. [14:34] But at a certain point, [14:35] you've got to ask yourself, [14:36] why did this pattern arise? [14:38] Why is it especially the case among your supporters? [14:41] I don't think it is especially the case, by the way. [14:43] That's just not true. [14:44] Look, people know... [14:46] Pete, if you want to talk to some of the women [14:48] on my campaign, [14:50] what you will see is the most ugly, sexist, racist attacks [14:53] that are... [14:54] I wouldn't even describe them here. [14:56] They're so disgusting. [14:57] And let me say something else about this. [14:59] Not being too paranoid. [15:00] All of us remember 2016. [15:04] And what we meant... [15:05] What we remember is efforts by Russians and others [15:08] to try to interfere in our election [15:09] and divide us up. [15:11] I'm not saying that's happening. [15:13] But it would not shock me. [15:14] I saw some of those tweets [15:16] regarding the Culinary Workers Union. [15:18] I have a 30-year, 100% pro-union voting record. [15:22] Do you think I would support, [15:24] or anybody who supports me, [15:26] would be attacking union leaders? [15:27] It's not thinkable. [15:28] But leadership is about what you draw out of people. [15:31] It's about how you inspire people to act. [15:35] And right now, we're in this toxic political environment. [15:39] Leadership isn't just about policy. [15:41] I think, at least in broad terms, [15:42] we're largely pulling in the same direction on policy. [15:45] But leadership is also about [15:47] how you motivate people to treat other people. [15:50] And I think you have to accept some responsibility [15:52] and ask yourself what it is about your campaign [15:55] in particular that seems to be [15:57] motivating this behavior more than others. [15:59] Because in order to turn the page on the Trump era, [16:02] we're going to need a president, [16:03] not just a candidate who can win, [16:04] but a president who can move us forward. [16:06] I have an idea of how we can stop sexism on the Internet. [16:09] We could nominate a woman for candidate [16:11] for president of the United States. [16:13] I think that might go a long way [16:16] if we showed our stuff as a party. [16:18] And the other thing I'm going to talk about [16:20] is really what is at the core of this issue [16:22] between Senator Sanders and the Culinary Union. [16:25] And that is this. [16:26] These are hardworking people, [16:28] housekeepers like Elizabeth and I met with last night, [16:32] who have health care plans [16:34] that have been negotiated over time, [16:37] sweat and blood. [16:38] And that is the truth for so many Americans right now. [16:41] Senator, thank you. [16:42] There are 149 million Americans [16:44] that would lose their current health insurance [16:46] under Senator Sanders' bill. [16:49] Senator, thank you. [16:49] That's what it says on page 8. [16:51] And I don't think we should forget that. [16:52] On that note, I want to turn it over to my colleague, Chuck Don. [16:54] Senator Sanders, I'm going to stay on this topic [16:56] on this issue with the Culinary Union. [17:00] Obviously, their leaders are warning their members [17:03] about that your health care plan [17:05] will take away their health care plan, [17:07] take away private insurance completely. [17:09] There are some Democrats who like you a lot, [17:13] but worry that this plan, Medicare for all, [17:15] is going to take away private insurance [17:17] and that it goes too far. [17:19] Are they right? [17:21] No. [17:22] Let me be very clear. [17:25] Two points. [17:27] For 100 years, from Teddy Roosevelt to Barack Obama, [17:31] this country has been talking about the need [17:33] to guarantee health care for all people. [17:36] And yet today, despite spending twice as much per capita, Chuck, [17:40] twice as much as any other major country on earth, [17:45] we got 87 million who are uninsured or underinsured. [17:49] We got over 60,000 people who die every year [17:52] because they don't get to a doctor on time. [17:54] We're getting ripped off outrageously [17:57] by the greed and corruption of the pharmaceutical industry, [18:00] which in some cases charges us 10 times more [18:04] for the same drugs because of their price fixing. [18:07] 500,000 people go bankrupt every year [18:10] because they can't afford medical bills. [18:12] So let me be very clear to my good friends [18:14] in the Culinary Workers Union, a great union, [18:17] I will never sign a bill [18:19] that will reduce the health care benefits they have. [18:23] We will only expand it for them, [18:25] for every union in America, [18:27] and for the working class of this country. [18:30] Senator Warren, you were all in on Medicare for All [18:34] and then you have since came up with a transition plan. [18:37] Is it because of the impact on unions? [18:39] So I want to be clear. [18:40] I've been to the Culinary Union's health care facilities. [18:43] They're terrific. [18:44] You don't want to shut them down. [18:45] You want to expand them. [18:46] You want to see them all across Nevada [18:48] and all across this country. [18:50] But we need to get everybody's health care plan out here. [18:55] Mayor Buttigieg really has a slogan [18:58] that was thought up by his consultants [18:59] to paper over a thin version of a plan [19:05] that would leave millions of people [19:07] unable to afford their health care. [19:10] It's not a plan, it's a PowerPoint. [19:13] And Amy's plan is even less. [19:15] It's like a Post-it note. [19:17] Insert plan here. [19:18] Has started very much, has a good start, [19:25] but instead of expanding [19:27] and bringing in more people to help, [19:30] instead his campaign relentlessly attacks everyone [19:33] who asks a question or tries to fill in details [19:37] about how to actually make this work. [19:39] And then his own advisors say, [19:42] eh, probably won't happen anyway. [19:45] Look, health care is a crisis in this country. [19:48] We need, my approach to this [19:51] is we need as much help for as many people [19:53] as quickly as possible [19:55] and bring in as many supporters as we can. [19:59] And if we don't get it all the first time, [20:02] take the win and come back into the fight [20:05] to ask for more. [20:06] Guys, I'm going to get everybody in. [20:07] I got you. [20:10] Mayor Buttigieg, I think she name-checked you first. [20:12] I'll let you go first. [20:14] She name-checked me second. [20:16] Yes, I, well, I, okay. [20:18] I think Amy said. [20:18] I'm more of a Microsoft Word guy. [20:21] And if you look at my plan, [20:23] I don't know if there are any PowerPoints on it, [20:25] but you can definitely find the document [20:26] on PeteForAmerica.com [20:28] and you'll see that it is a plan [20:30] that solves the problem, [20:32] makes sure there is no such thing [20:34] as an uninsured American [20:35] and does it without kicking anybody [20:37] off the plan that they have. [20:38] This idea that the union members [20:40] don't know what's good for them [20:41] is the exact kind of condescension [20:44] and arrogance that makes people skeptical [20:46] of the policies we've been putting forward. [20:48] Here we have a plan [20:49] that the majority of Americans support. [20:51] Do you realize how historic that is? [20:53] That the American people are ready in a way [20:55] far beyond what was true even 10 years ago [20:58] and what was available to President Obama at the time. [21:01] There's a powerful American majority [21:02] ready to undertake the biggest, [21:04] most progressive reform we've had in healthcare [21:07] in 50 years just so long [21:09] as we don't force it on anybody. [21:11] What is wrong with that? [21:12] All right, Senator, let me go to Senator Klobuchar [21:14] and then I'll have you in a spot. [21:16] All right, Senator Klobuchar. [21:18] Well, I think the post-it note came first, Senator. [21:21] I don't know. [21:21] I do think the post-it note had came first. [21:23] I must say I take personal offense [21:25] since post-it notes were invented in my state. [21:29] So... [21:30] You should 3M us. [21:31] 3M. [21:31] Okay. [21:32] So my plan is a public option. [21:36] And according to all the studies out there, [21:38] it would reduce premiums for 12 million people immediately. [21:42] It would expand coverage for about that same number. [21:46] It is a significant thing. [21:47] It is what Barack Obama wanted to do [21:49] from the very beginning. [21:50] And the way I look at it, [21:52] since we're in Vegas, [21:53] when it comes to your plan, [21:55] Elizabeth and Bernie's, [21:56] on Medicare for All, [21:57] you don't put your money [21:59] on a number that's not even on the wheel. [22:02] And why is Medicare for All not on the wheel? [22:06] Why is it not on the wheel? [22:07] Because two-thirds of the Democratic senators [22:09] are not even on that bill. [22:12] Because a bunch of the new House members [22:14] that got elected [22:15] see the problems with blowing up [22:17] the Affordable Care Act. [22:19] They see it right in front of them. [22:21] And the truth is [22:22] that when you see [22:24] some troubled waters, [22:25] you don't blow up a bridge. [22:26] You build one. [22:28] And so we need to improve [22:29] the Affordable Care Act, [22:30] not blow it up. [22:31] You name-checked three of them. [22:35] Let me get Senator Sanders in there. [22:36] I'm also an attack to you. [22:37] Okay, Charlie? [22:37] Okay. [22:38] Go ahead, Senator Sanders. [22:39] Okay. [22:40] We'll get you in, miss. [22:41] All right. [22:41] We've got a lot of people in here. [22:43] We've got a hit. [22:43] Here we go. [22:44] Some... [22:45] It's my turn, yeah? [22:46] Yes, sir. [22:46] Okay. [22:48] Somehow or another, [22:51] Canada can provide [22:51] universal health care [22:53] to all their people [22:54] at half the cost. [22:55] UK can do it. [22:56] France can do it. [22:57] Germany can do it. [22:57] All of Europe can do it. [22:59] Gee whiz, somehow or another, [23:02] we are the only major country [23:04] on earth that can't do it. [23:06] Why is that? [23:07] And I'll tell you why. [23:09] It's because last year, [23:10] the health care industry [23:12] made $100 billion in profits. [23:16] Pharmaceutical industry, [23:17] top six companies, [23:19] $69 billion in profit. [23:21] And those CEOs are contributing [23:24] to Pete's campaign [23:25] and other campaigns up here. [23:28] Let's clear this up right now. [23:29] So maybe... [23:29] I want to get... [23:30] Maybe it is finally time [23:32] that we said as a nation, [23:34] enough is enough. [23:36] The function of a rational [23:37] health care system [23:38] is not to make [23:40] the pharmaceutical industry [23:42] and the drug companies rich. [23:44] It is to provide health care [23:45] to all people [23:46] as a human right, [23:48] not a privilege. [23:48] Mr. Vice President, [23:49] you got it. [23:50] No copayments, [23:51] no deductibles. [23:52] Let's go ahead. [23:53] Mr. Vice President, [23:55] Senator Warren. [23:55] I'm the only one on this stage [23:57] that's actually got anything done [23:58] on health care. [23:59] I'm the guy [24:01] the president turned to [24:02] and said, [24:03] go get the votes [24:03] for Obamacare. [24:05] And I noticed [24:05] what everybody's talking about [24:07] is the plan [24:07] that I first introduced. [24:09] That is to go [24:10] and add to Obamacare, [24:11] provide a public option, [24:13] a Medicare-like option. [24:14] It cost... [24:15] It increased the subsidies. [24:17] It cost a lot of money. [24:18] It cost $750 billion [24:20] over 10 years. [24:21] But I pay for it [24:22] by making sure [24:23] that Mike and other people [24:24] pay at the same tax rate [24:26] their secretary pays at. [24:27] That's how we get it paid, [24:29] number one. [24:30] Number two, [24:31] you know, [24:32] from the moment, [24:33] from the moment [24:33] we passed that signature legislation, [24:35] Mike called it a disgrace, [24:37] number one. [24:37] Number two, [24:39] Trump decided to get rid of it. [24:41] And number three, [24:41] my friends here [24:42] came up with another plan. [24:43] But they don't tell you. [24:44] When you ask Bernie [24:45] how much it cost, [24:46] the last time he said that, [24:48] I think it was on your show, [24:49] he said, [24:49] we'll find out. [24:50] We'll find out how... [24:51] Or something to that effect. [24:52] It cost over $35 trillion. [24:55] Let's get real. [24:56] Senator Warren, [24:57] you get the final word on this one, [24:58] I'm going to move to another question. [24:59] Go ahead, Senator Warren. [25:00] Go ahead, Senator Warren. [25:01] So I actually... [25:03] So I actually took a look [25:05] at the plans that are posted. [25:07] Mayor Buttigieg, [25:08] there are four expenses [25:10] that families pay, right? [25:12] Premiums, deductibles, [25:13] co-pays, [25:14] and uncovered medical expenses. [25:17] Mayor Buttigieg says [25:18] he will put a cap [25:19] only on the premiums. [25:21] And that means families [25:22] are going to pick up [25:23] the rest of the cost. [25:25] Amy, I looked online at your plan. [25:27] It's two paragraphs. [25:29] Families are suffering [25:31] and they need a plan. [25:33] You can't simply stand here [25:35] and trash an idea [25:37] to give healthcare coverage [25:38] to everyone [25:39] without having a realistic [25:41] plan of your own. [25:42] And if you're not going [25:44] to own up to the fact [25:45] either that you don't have a plan [25:47] or that your plan [25:48] is going to leave people [25:49] without healthcare coverage, [25:51] full coverage, [25:52] then you need to say so. [25:54] I just want to say on this, [25:55] when I was in Reno, [25:56] when I met a man [25:58] who said he had diabetes, [26:00] he gets his insulin [26:02] through the VA, [26:04] but his sister and his daughter [26:06] also have diabetes. [26:07] No way to pay for their insulin. [26:09] Three human beings [26:10] right here in Nevada [26:12] who are struggling. [26:14] They share one insulin prescription. [26:16] Mayor Bloomberg, [26:17] was Vice President Biden right [26:19] and you weren't a fan of Obamacare? [26:20] I am a fan of Obamacare. [26:23] At the beginning... [26:23] That's right, Mr. Mayor. [26:25] Mr. Vice President, [26:27] I just checked the record [26:28] because you'd said one time [26:29] that I was not. [26:30] In 2009, [26:32] I testified [26:32] and gave a speech [26:34] before the mayor's conference [26:36] in Washington [26:37] advocating it [26:39] and trying to get all the mayors [26:40] to sign on [26:41] and I think at that time [26:42] I wrote an article [26:43] praising Obamacare. [26:45] It was either in the New York Post [26:46] or the Daily News. [26:47] So the facts are... [26:48] I was there. [26:49] Let me finish. [26:50] Thank you. [26:53] I was in favor of it. [26:55] I thought it didn't go [26:57] as far as we should. [26:59] Trump has done to this [27:00] is a disgrace. [27:01] The first thing we've got to do [27:02] is get the White House [27:04] and bring back those things [27:06] that were left [27:06] and then find a ways [27:07] to expand it. [27:09] Another public option [27:10] to having some rules [27:11] about capping charges. [27:14] All of those things. [27:16] We shouldn't just walk away [27:17] and start something [27:18] that is totally new, untried. [27:20] Okay. [27:20] Vice President Biden, go ahead. [27:21] The mayor said [27:23] when we passed it, [27:24] the signature piece [27:26] of this administration, [27:27] it's a disgrace. [27:28] They're the exact words. [27:30] It was a disgrace. [27:31] Look it up. [27:32] Check it out. [27:33] It was a disgrace. [27:34] Thank you. [27:35] I cover, by the way, [27:36] that I plan. [27:37] You do not have surprise billing. [27:39] You bring down drug prices. [27:41] People are not... [27:42] It gives people [27:42] all the things [27:43] we're just talking about. [27:44] I guess you're not [27:45] got enough time to do it, [27:46] but I'll get a chance [27:47] to talk about it. [27:47] Thank you, sir. [27:48] Lester. [27:48] All right. [27:49] Mayor Bloomberg, [27:50] at the beginning [27:52] of this debate, [27:53] you took some incoming fire [27:54] on this next topic, [27:55] so let's get into it. [27:56] In 2015, [27:57] this is how you describe [27:58] your policing policy [28:00] as mayor. [28:00] Quote, [28:01] we put all the cops [28:02] in the minority neighborhoods, [28:03] and you explain that as, [28:05] quote, [28:05] because that's where [28:06] all the crime is. [28:07] You went on to say, [28:08] and the way you should get [28:09] the guns out of the kids' hands [28:11] is to throw them [28:11] against the wall [28:12] and frisk them. [28:13] You've apologized [28:14] for that policy, [28:15] but what does that kind [28:16] of language say [28:17] about how you view [28:18] people of color [28:19] or people in minority neighborhoods? [28:21] Well, if I go back [28:23] and look at my time [28:25] in office, [28:25] the one thing [28:26] that I'm really worried about, [28:30] embarrassed about, [28:31] was how it turned out [28:33] with stop and frisk. [28:36] When I got into office, [28:37] there were 650 murders a year [28:40] in New York City, [28:41] and I thought [28:42] that my first responsibility [28:44] was to give people [28:45] the right to live. [28:46] That's the basic right [28:47] of everything. [28:48] And we adopted a policy [28:52] which had been in place, [28:54] the policy that all [28:55] big police departments use [28:57] of stop and frisk. [28:58] What happened, however, [28:59] was it got out of control. [29:01] And when we discovered, [29:03] I discovered, [29:04] that we were doing [29:05] many, many, [29:06] too many stop and frisks, [29:08] we cut 95% of it out. [29:11] And I've sat down [29:12] with a bunch of [29:13] African-American clergy [29:15] and business people [29:16] to talk about this, [29:17] to try to learn. [29:19] I've talked to a number [29:20] of kids who'd been stopped. [29:22] And I'm trying to, [29:23] I was trying to understand [29:25] how we change our policies [29:27] so we can keep the city safe [29:29] because the crime rate [29:30] did go from 650, [29:32] 50% down to 300. [29:35] And we have to keep [29:36] the lid on crime, [29:37] but we cannot go out [29:39] and stop people [29:40] indiscriminately. [29:41] Mayor, thank you. [29:42] Let me go to [29:42] Vice President Biden of this. [29:43] You want to respond to that? [29:44] Yes, let's get something straight. [29:45] The reason that [29:47] stop and frisk change [29:48] is because Barack Obama [29:49] sent moderators [29:51] to see what was going on. [29:53] When we sent them there [29:55] to say, [29:56] this practice has to stop, [29:57] the mayor thought [29:58] it was a terrible idea [29:59] we send them there. [30:01] A terrible idea. [30:02] Let's get the facts straight. [30:04] Let's get the order straight. [30:05] And it's not whether [30:06] he apologized or not, [30:07] it's the policy. [30:09] The policy was abhorrent. [30:10] And it was, in fact, [30:12] a violation of every [30:13] right people have. [30:15] And we are the one, [30:17] by our administration, [30:19] sent in people [30:21] to monitor it. [30:22] And at the very time, [30:24] the mayor argued against that. [30:26] This idea that he figured out [30:28] it was a bad idea. [30:29] He figured out it was a bad idea [30:30] after we sent in monitors [30:32] and said it must stop. [30:34] Even then, [30:34] he continued the policy. [30:36] All right. [30:36] Mayor, would you like [30:37] to make a quick response [30:38] to that? [30:38] Yes, I would. [30:40] I've sat, [30:41] I've apologized, [30:42] I've asked for forgiveness, [30:43] but the bottom line is [30:45] that we stopped too many people, [30:48] but the policy, [30:49] we stopped too many people [30:50] and we've got to make sure [30:51] that we do something [30:52] about criminal justice [30:53] in this country. [30:54] There is no great answer [30:56] to a lot of these problems. [30:57] And if we took off [30:58] everybody that was wrong [30:59] off this panel, [31:01] everybody that was wrong [31:02] on criminal justice [31:03] at some time in their careers, [31:05] there'd be nobody else up here. [31:06] Senator Warren. [31:09] Let's be clear. [31:10] I'm sorry, [31:10] who did you call on? [31:11] Senator Warren. [31:12] I do think that this really is [31:14] about leadership [31:15] and accountability. [31:17] When the mayor says [31:18] that he apologized, [31:19] listen very closely [31:20] to the apology. [31:22] The language he used [31:23] is about stop and frisk. [31:26] It's about how it turned out. [31:28] Now, this isn't about [31:29] how it turned out. [31:31] This is about what it was designed [31:33] to do to begin with. [31:34] It targeted communities of color, [31:37] it targeted black and brown men [31:40] from the beginning. [31:42] And if you want to issue [31:43] a real apology, [31:45] then the apology has to start [31:47] with the intent of the plan [31:49] as it was put together [31:51] and the willful ignorance [31:54] day by day by day [31:56] of admitting what was happening, [31:58] even as people protested [32:00] in your own street, [32:01] shutting out the sounds [32:03] of people telling you [32:04] how your own policy [32:05] was breaking their lives. [32:07] You need a different apology. [32:08] Senator, thank you. [32:09] Chuck? [32:09] Can I start this one? [32:11] Let me get Senator Klobuchar. [32:13] We're going to stay on this topic, [32:15] but I want to get something [32:15] in here with Senator Klobuchar. [32:17] When you were the top prosecutor [32:18] in Minneapolis, Senator, [32:19] there were at least [32:19] two dozen instances [32:20] where police were involved [32:22] in the deaths of civilians. [32:24] None of those officers [32:25] were prosecuted. [32:27] You did prosecute [32:27] a black teenager [32:28] who was sentenced [32:28] to life in prison [32:29] despite what are now [32:31] serious doubts [32:31] about the evidence. [32:32] Now, the Minneapolis chapter [32:33] of the NAACP [32:35] has recently called [32:36] for you to suspend [32:37] your campaign [32:38] over that case [32:39] because some new evidence [32:40] has come out since. [32:42] Big picture, [32:43] why should black [32:43] and Latino voters [32:44] trust your judgment now [32:46] if it appears [32:47] you may have gotten it wrong then? [32:50] First, I'll start [32:50] with that case. [32:52] It is very clear [32:53] that any evidence, [32:55] if there is new evidence, [32:56] even old evidence, [32:57] it should be reviewed [32:59] by that office [33:00] and by the county attorney. [33:02] That must happen. [33:03] I have called [33:04] for that review. [33:06] This was a case [33:07] involving an 11-year-old [33:08] African-American girl [33:10] named Taisha Edwards [33:11] who was shot [33:12] doing her homework [33:13] at her kitchen table. [33:15] Three people were convicted. [33:16] One of the cases [33:18] is the one [33:19] that is being investigated, [33:22] was investigated [33:23] by a journalist [33:24] and I think [33:25] it's very important [33:26] that that evidence [33:27] come forward. [33:28] In terms of the [33:29] police shootings [33:30] that you noted, [33:32] those went to a grand jury, [33:34] every single one of them [33:35] and I've made very clear [33:37] for months now [33:38] that like so many prosecutors, [33:41] I think those cases [33:42] in my time, [33:43] they were all going [33:44] to the grand jury. [33:45] It was thought [33:45] that was the best way [33:46] to handle them [33:47] in many, many jurisdictions. [33:48] You think you should have spoke up? [33:49] You didn't speak up [33:50] at the time, should you? [33:50] I actually did speak up [33:52] on something very similar [33:53] and that was when [33:54] our police chief in Minneapolis [33:55] tried to take the investigations [33:57] of police shootings [33:58] into his own hands [34:00] and I strongly said [34:01] I disagreed with that. [34:03] Now, I do believe also [34:04] that a prosecutor [34:05] should make those decisions herself [34:07] and the last thing [34:08] I will say [34:08] because you asked [34:09] the question about voting, [34:11] I have the support [34:12] of African-Americans [34:13] in my community [34:14] in every election. [34:16] I had strong support [34:17] and strong support [34:18] of leadership [34:19] and that's because [34:20] I earned it [34:21] and this is going to be [34:22] on me to earn it. [34:23] You earn it with [34:23] what you stand for [34:25] when it comes [34:25] to equal opportunity. [34:27] You earn it [34:27] with the work [34:28] that I have done, [34:29] the leadership [34:29] I've shown on voting rights [34:30] and yes, [34:31] you earn it [34:32] with the work [34:32] that must be done [34:33] on criminal justice reform. [34:35] I want to talk [34:36] about transparency here [34:37] because many Democrats, [34:39] including most of you [34:39] on stage, [34:40] have criticized [34:41] President Trump [34:42] for his lack [34:42] of transparency. [34:44] But Senator Sanders, [34:45] when you were here [34:45] in Las Vegas in October, [34:47] you were hospitalized [34:48] with a heart attack. [34:49] Afterwards, [34:50] you pledged to make [34:50] quote, [34:51] all your medical records public. [34:53] You've released [34:54] three letters [34:54] from your doctors [34:55] but you now say [34:56] you won't release [34:57] anything more. [34:58] What happened [34:58] to your promise [34:59] of full transparency? [35:00] Well, I think we did. [35:02] Let me tell you [35:02] what happened. [35:03] First of all, [35:03] you're right. [35:04] And thank you, [35:05] Las Vegas, [35:06] for the excellent [35:06] medical care I got [35:07] in the hospital [35:08] two days. [35:10] And I think [35:10] the one area [35:12] maybe the mayor [35:12] Bloomberg and I share, [35:14] you have two stents [35:14] as well. [35:15] 25 years ago. [35:17] Well, we both [35:18] have two stents. [35:19] It's a procedure [35:20] that it's done [35:20] about a million times [35:21] a year. [35:22] So we released [35:23] the full report [35:24] of that heart attack. [35:26] Second of all, [35:27] we released the full, [35:28] by whole 29 years [35:30] in the capital, [35:31] the attending physician, [35:32] all of my history, [35:33] medical history. [35:34] And furthermore, [35:35] we released reports [35:37] from two leading [35:38] Vermont cardiologists [35:39] who described [35:41] my situation [35:42] and, by the way, [35:43] who said [35:43] Bernie Sanders [35:44] is more than able [35:46] to deal with [35:48] the stress [35:49] and the vigor [35:50] of being president [35:51] of the United States. [35:53] Hey, follow me [35:53] around the campaign trail, [35:55] three, four, [35:55] five events a day. [35:57] See how you're doing [35:58] compared to me. [35:59] Mayor Buttigieg, [36:01] you've been critical [36:02] about transparency [36:04] on this stage [36:05] and people needing [36:05] to do better. [36:06] Is that response [36:06] from Senator Sanders [36:07] enough for you? [36:08] No, it's not. [36:09] Because, first of all, [36:10] let me say, [36:10] we're all delighted [36:11] that you are [36:11] in fighting shape. [36:13] And at the same time, [36:16] transparency matters, [36:17] especially living [36:18] through the Trump era. [36:19] Now, under President Obama, [36:21] the standard was [36:22] that the president [36:22] would release [36:23] full medical records, [36:25] do a physical, [36:26] and release the readout. [36:28] I think that's the standard [36:29] that we should hold [36:30] ourselves to as well. [36:32] Now, President Trump [36:33] lowered that standard. [36:34] He said just a letter [36:35] from a doctor is enough. [36:36] And a lot of folks [36:37] on this stage [36:38] are now saying [36:39] that's enough. [36:40] But I am certainly prepared [36:41] to get a physical, [36:43] put out the results. [36:44] I think everybody here [36:45] should be willing [36:46] to do the same. [36:46] But I'm actually [36:47] less concerned [36:48] about the lack [36:48] of transparency [36:49] on Sanders' [36:50] personal health [36:51] than I am about [36:51] the lack of transparency [36:53] on how to pay [36:53] for his health care plan [36:55] since he said [36:56] that it's impossible [36:57] to even know [36:58] how much it's going to cost. [36:59] And even after raising taxes [37:01] on everybody making $29,000, [37:04] there is still [37:04] a multi-trillion dollar hole. [37:07] Matter of fact, [37:07] if you add up [37:08] his policies altogether, [37:09] they come to $50 trillion. [37:11] He's only explained [37:12] $25 trillion worth of revenue, [37:14] which means that the hole [37:15] in there is bigger [37:16] than the size [37:17] of the entire economy [37:18] of the United States. [37:20] The time has come [37:21] to level with the American people [37:22] on matters personal [37:23] and on matters of policy. [37:24] Thank you. [37:25] Senator Sanders, quickly. [37:26] Let's level. [37:28] Let's level, Pete. [37:30] Under your plan, [37:31] which is a maintenance [37:32] continuation of the status quo, [37:34] can I finish? [37:35] The average American today [37:37] is paying $12,000 a year. [37:40] That's what that family [37:41] is paying. [37:41] 20% of a 60,000 income, [37:44] $12,000 a year. [37:46] Highest prices in the world [37:47] for prescription drugs. [37:49] Just the other day, [37:50] a major study came out [37:51] from Yale, epidemiologist [37:53] in Lancet, [37:54] one of the leading [37:55] medical publications [37:56] in the world. [37:57] What they said, my friends, [37:59] is Medicare for all [38:00] will save $450 billion [38:03] a year. [38:05] Because we are eliminating [38:07] the absurdity [38:08] of thousands [38:09] of separate plans [38:10] that require hundreds [38:12] of billions of dollars [38:13] of administration. [38:14] And, by the way, [38:16] ending the $100 billion [38:17] a year in profiteering [38:18] for the drug companies [38:19] and the insurance companies. [38:21] This is really important. [38:21] Mayor Bloomberg, [38:22] I want to let you use this. [38:23] This is a sale, [38:24] by the way, Luke increased costs. [38:25] And that's false. [38:26] Look, if my plan [38:26] is the status quo, [38:27] why was it attacked [38:28] by the insurance industry [38:30] the moment it came out? [38:31] And on issue [38:32] after issue after issue, [38:33] this is what [38:34] Senator Sanders is saying. [38:35] If you're not with him, [38:36] if you're not all the way [38:38] on his side, [38:39] then you must be [38:39] for the status quo. [38:40] Well, you know what? [38:41] That is a picture [38:42] that leaves most [38:43] of the American people out. [38:44] I want to go to Mayor Bloomberg [38:45] on this transparency issue. [38:47] Very briefly on transparency, [38:49] Mayor Bloomberg, [38:50] your campaign has said [38:51] that you would eventually [38:52] release your tax records [38:54] when it comes to transparency. [38:55] But people are already voting now. [38:57] Why should Democratic voters [38:58] have to wait? [39:00] It just takes us a long time. [39:02] Unfortunately or fortunately... [39:03] Could I comment on that? [39:04] Fortunately, [39:06] I make a lot of money [39:07] and we do business [39:08] all around the world [39:08] and we are preparing it. [39:10] The number of pages [39:11] will probably be [39:12] thousands of pages. [39:14] I can't go to TurboTax. [39:15] But I put out my tax return [39:17] every year [39:18] for 12 years in City Hall. [39:21] We will put out this one. [39:23] It tells everybody [39:24] everything they need to know [39:25] about every investments [39:27] that I make [39:28] and where the money goes. [39:29] And the biggest item [39:30] is all the money I give away. [39:32] And we list that [39:33] every single donation I make. [39:36] And you can get that [39:36] from our foundation [39:38] anytime you want. [39:40] Okay. [39:40] Yeah, I'm just looking [39:41] at my husband [39:41] in the front row [39:42] that has to do our taxes [39:44] all the time. [39:45] We probably could go [39:46] to TurboTax. [39:47] And the point of this is [39:48] I believe in transparency. [39:50] I had a physical, [39:51] by the way. [39:52] It came out well. [39:53] We might all be surprised [39:54] if my blood pressure [39:55] is lower than Mayor Pete's. [39:56] That might really shock [39:58] everyone out there. [39:59] And I think you should [40:01] release your records [40:02] from your physical. [40:03] Secondly, [40:03] when it comes to tax returns, [40:05] everyone up here [40:06] has released [40:07] their tax returns, Mayor. [40:08] I think, [40:09] and it is a major issue [40:11] because the President [40:12] of the United States [40:13] has been hiding [40:14] behind his tax returns, [40:15] even when courts [40:16] order him [40:18] to come forward [40:19] with those tax returns. [40:20] And I think, [40:21] I don't care [40:22] how much money anyone has. [40:23] I think it's great [40:24] you got a lot of money, [40:25] but I think you've got [40:26] to come forward [40:27] with your tax returns. [40:28] Senator, [40:29] I'll get to you in a second. [40:29] Mayor Bloomberg, [40:30] quick response [40:30] to Senator Klobuchar. [40:31] We're releasing them. [40:33] They'll be out in a few weeks [40:34] and that's just as fast [40:36] as I can do it. [40:37] Remember, [40:37] I only entered into this race [40:39] 10 weeks ago. [40:40] All of my associates here [40:42] have been at this [40:42] for a couple of years [40:43] and we did not. [40:44] That's right, we have. [40:45] Engaging voters [40:46] and humbling ourselves [40:47] to back out to the 10 weeks ago. [40:49] Let me ask you about something else, [40:50] Mr. Mayor, [40:51] pay overtime and get it done. [40:52] Senator Warren. [40:53] I wish it was that simple. [40:54] I'll let you get in here. [40:55] But Mayor Bloomberg, [40:56] It would save me a lot of money. [40:57] Let me ask you about something else. [40:58] Several former employees [41:00] have claimed [41:00] that your company [41:01] was a hostile workplace for women. [41:03] When you were confronted about it, [41:05] you admitted making [41:06] sexually suggestive remarks [41:07] saying, quote, [41:08] that's the way I grew up. [41:10] In a lawsuit in the 1990s, [41:11] according to the Washington Post, [41:13] one former female employee [41:14] alleged that you said, quote, [41:15] I would do you in a second. [41:18] Should Democrats expect better [41:19] from their nominee? [41:20] Let me say a couple of things [41:22] and if I can have [41:23] my full minute and a quarter, [41:25] thank you. [41:27] I have no tolerance [41:30] for the kind of behavior [41:32] that the Me Too movement [41:33] has exposed. [41:35] And anybody that does [41:37] anything wrong in our company, [41:38] we investigate it, [41:39] and if it's appropriate, [41:41] they're gone that day. [41:42] But let me tell you [41:43] what I do in my company [41:45] and my foundation [41:46] and in city government [41:48] when I was there. [41:50] In my foundation, [41:51] the person that runs it's a woman, [41:53] 70% of the people there are women. [41:55] In my company, [41:57] lots and lots of women [41:58] have big responsibilities. [42:00] They get paid [42:00] exactly the same as men. [42:02] And in my, [42:04] in city hall, [42:06] the person that's the top person, [42:08] my deputy mayor was a woman [42:09] and 40% of our commissioners [42:11] were women. [42:13] I am very proud of the fact [42:14] that about two weeks ago, [42:17] we were awarded, [42:18] we were voted the most, [42:21] the best place to work, [42:24] second best place in America. [42:26] If that doesn't say something [42:27] about our employees [42:28] and how happy they are, [42:30] I don't know what does. [42:32] Senator Warren, [42:32] you've been critical [42:33] of Mayor Bloomberg [42:33] on this issue. [42:34] Yes, I have. [42:35] And I hope you heard [42:36] what his defense was. [42:38] I've been nice to some women, [42:47] has to stand on his record. [42:49] And what we need to know [42:50] is exactly what's lurking out there. [42:52] He has gotten some number of women, [42:55] dozens, who knows, [42:56] to sign non-disclosure agreements, [42:58] both for sexual harassment [43:00] and for gender discrimination [43:02] in the workplace. [43:04] So, Mr. Mayor, [43:05] are you willing to release [43:06] all of those women [43:08] from those non-disclosure agreements [43:09] so we can hear [43:11] their side of the story? [43:12] We have a very few [43:21] non-disclosure agreements. [43:23] How many is that? [43:24] Let me finish. [43:25] How many is that? [43:26] None of them accused me [43:27] of doing anything other than [43:29] maybe they didn't like [43:31] the joke I told. [43:32] And let me just put... [43:33] And let me point... [43:34] There's agreements [43:35] between two parties [43:36] that wanted to keep it quiet [43:38] and that's up to them. [43:40] They signed those agreements [43:41] and we'll live with it. [43:42] So, wait. [43:43] When you say it is up to... [43:44] I just want to be clear. [43:46] Some is how many? [43:49] And when you say [43:51] they signed them [43:52] and they wanted them, [43:54] if they wish now [43:55] to speak out [43:56] and tell their side [43:57] of the story [43:58] about what it is [43:59] they allege, [44:00] that's now okay with you? [44:01] You're releasing them [44:02] on television tonight? [44:04] Senator... [44:04] Is that right? [44:08] Senator the company [44:10] and somebody else, [44:12] in this case, [44:12] a man or a woman, [44:13] or it could be more than that, [44:15] they decided [44:16] when they made an agreement [44:17] that they wanted [44:17] to keep it quiet [44:18] for everybody's interest. [44:20] They signed the agreements [44:21] and that's what [44:21] we're going to live with. [44:22] I'm sorry. [44:23] No, the question is, [44:24] are the women bound [44:26] by being muzzled by you? [44:28] And you could release them [44:30] from that immediately [44:31] because, understand, [44:33] this is not just a question [44:34] of the mayor's character. [44:36] This is also a question [44:38] about electability. [44:40] We are not going to beat [44:41] Donald Trump [44:42] with a man who has [44:44] who knows how many [44:45] nondisclosure agreements [44:47] and the drip, drip, drip [44:49] of stories of women [44:51] saying they have been harassed [44:53] and discriminated against. [44:55] That's not what we do [44:56] as Democrats. [44:56] Mr. Vice President. [44:58] Look, let's get something [44:59] straight here. [45:00] It's easy. [45:01] All the mayor has to do [45:03] is say you are released [45:04] from the nondisclosure agreement. [45:07] Period. [45:08] We talk about transparency here. [45:11] This guy got himself [45:12] in trouble [45:12] and maybe begins saying [45:13] that there was a nondisclosure [45:15] that he couldn't disclose [45:16] what he did. [45:17] He went to his company. [45:18] Just to be super clear, [45:19] that was about the list of clients. [45:20] So nobody gets there. [45:21] No, no, no. [45:21] I know what you mean. [45:23] No, you're right. [45:23] But he said, [45:24] he went to the company [45:25] and said, [45:25] I want to be released. [45:26] I want to be able to do it. [45:27] Look, this is about transparency [45:29] from the very beginning. [45:31] Whether it's your health record, [45:32] whether it's your taxes, [45:33] whether you have cases against you, [45:36] whether or not people [45:37] have signed nondisclosure agreements. [45:38] You think that women, [45:39] in fact, [45:40] were ready to say, [45:41] I don't want anybody to know [45:42] about what you did to me. [45:44] That's not how it works. [45:46] The way it works is they say, [45:47] look, this is what you did to me. [45:49] And the mayor comes along [45:50] and his attorney said, [45:51] I will give you this amount of money [45:53] if you promise [45:54] you'll never say anything. [45:55] That's how it works. [45:56] Mayor Bloomberg, final word to you. [46:00] I said, [46:00] we're not going to get [46:02] to end these agreements [46:03] because they were made [46:04] consensually [46:06] and they have every right [46:08] to expect that [46:09] they will stay private. [46:11] If they want to release it, [46:12] they should be able [46:13] to release themselves. [46:15] Can I add a word to this? [46:15] Say yes. [46:16] You know, [46:17] we talk about electability [46:18] and everybody up here [46:19] wants to beat Trump. [46:21] And we talked about [46:22] stop and frisk [46:23] and we talked about [46:24] the workplace [46:25] that Mayor Bloomberg [46:26] has established [46:27] and the problems there. [46:29] But maybe we should also ask [46:31] how Mayor Bloomberg [46:31] in 2004 [46:32] supported George W. Bush [46:35] for president. [46:36] Put money [46:36] into Republican candidates [46:38] for the United States Senate [46:40] when some of us, [46:41] Joe and I and others, [46:42] were fighting [46:43] for Democrats [46:43] to control [46:44] the United States Senate. [46:45] And maybe we can talk [46:47] maybe we can talk [46:48] about a billionaire [46:50] saying [46:51] that we should not raise [46:52] the minimum wage [46:53] or that we should cut [46:55] Social Security, [46:56] Medicare and Medicaid. [46:57] If that's a way [46:58] to beat Donald Trump, [47:00] wow, [47:00] I would be very surprised. [47:02] Thank you, Senator. [47:02] Vanessa, to you. [47:03] Right, wait. [47:04] Senator Kovachar, [47:06] you're running [47:07] on your Washington experience. [47:09] But last week [47:10] in a Telemundo interview, [47:11] you could not name [47:12] the president of Mexico [47:14] or discuss any of his policies. [47:16] Last night, [47:18] you defended yourself [47:19] saying, quote, [47:20] this isn't jeopardy. [47:22] But my question to you is, [47:24] shouldn't our next president [47:26] know more about [47:27] one of our largest [47:28] trading partners? [47:30] Of course. [47:31] And I don't think [47:36] that that momentary [47:37] forgetfulness [47:39] actually reflects [47:41] what I know [47:41] about Mexico [47:43] and how much [47:44] I care about it. [47:45] And I first want [47:46] to say greetings [47:47] to President López Obrador. [47:50] Secondly, [47:52] what I meant [47:54] by the game [47:55] of Jeopardy [47:55] is that I think [47:57] we could all [47:58] come up with things. [47:59] You know, [47:59] how many members [48:00] are there in the [48:01] Israeli Knesset? [48:02] 120. [48:03] Who is the president [48:05] of Honduras? [48:07] Hernandez. [48:08] But when it comes [48:09] to Mexico, [48:10] I am the one person [48:11] on this stage [48:12] that came out first [48:13] to say I was for [48:15] the U.S.-Mexican-Canadian [48:17] trade agreement. [48:17] That is going to be [48:19] one of the number [48:19] one duties of a [48:20] president is to [48:21] implement that. [48:22] My colleague [48:23] specifically asked you [48:24] if you could name [48:25] the president of Mexico [48:26] and your response [48:27] was not. [48:28] Yes, that's right. [48:29] And I said [48:30] that I made an error. [48:32] I think having a [48:33] president that maybe [48:34] is humble [48:35] and is able [48:36] to admit that [48:37] here and there [48:37] maybe wouldn't [48:38] be a bad thing. [48:39] Mayor Pritich, [48:39] if you could let me. [48:41] Scott, a good response. [48:41] If you could. [48:42] Yeah, look, [48:42] I wouldn't liken this [48:44] to trivia. [48:44] I actually didn't know [48:45] how many members [48:46] were in the Knesset. [48:47] Well, there you go. [48:48] But you're staking [48:49] your candidacy [48:50] on your Washington [48:51] experience. [48:52] You're on the committee [48:53] that oversees [48:54] border security. [48:55] You're on the committee [48:56] that does trade. [48:57] You're literally [48:58] part of the committee [49:00] that's overseeing [49:01] these things. [49:01] And we're not able [49:02] to speak to literally [49:04] the first thing [49:04] about the politics [49:05] of the country [49:06] to ourself. [49:06] Are you trying to say [49:07] that I'm dumb [49:08] or are you mocking me [49:09] here, Pete? [49:10] I said I made an error. [49:13] People sometimes [49:14] forget names. [49:16] I am the one [49:17] that has, number one, [49:19] has the experience [49:20] based on passing [49:21] over 100 bills. [49:22] Thank you, Senator. [49:23] If I could respond, [49:25] this was a pretty big [49:25] allegation. [49:27] He's basically saying [49:28] that I don't have [49:29] the experience [49:29] to be president [49:30] of the United States. [49:32] I have passed [49:32] over 100 bills [49:34] as a lead Democrat [49:35] since being in the U.S. [49:36] Senate. [49:37] I am the one, [49:38] not you, [49:39] that has won statewide [49:40] in congressional district [49:42] after congressional district. [49:44] And I will say [49:45] when you tried [49:46] in Indiana, Pete, [49:48] to run, [49:49] what happened to you? [49:50] You lost by over 20 points [49:52] to someone [49:52] who later lost [49:54] to my friend Joe Donnelly. [49:56] So don't tell me [49:57] about experience. [49:58] What unites us here [49:59] is we want to win. [50:00] And I think [50:01] we should put [50:01] a proven winner [50:02] in charge of the ticket. [50:04] This is a race [50:05] for Frennick. [50:05] This is a race [50:07] for president. [50:08] If winning a race [50:09] for Senate in Minnesota [50:10] translated directly [50:11] to becoming president, [50:13] I would have grown up [50:13] under the presidency [50:14] of Walter Mondale. [50:16] This is different. [50:17] And the reason [50:18] that I think [50:18] we need to talk [50:19] about Washington experience [50:20] is that we should ask [50:22] what that experience [50:23] has led to. [50:24] Experience and certainly [50:25] tenure is not always [50:26] the same thing [50:27] as judgment. [50:28] If we're going to talk [50:28] about votes [50:29] in the Senate [50:30] in Washington, [50:31] let's talk about it. [50:32] Let's talk about it. [50:34] Let's talk about it. [50:35] Next question. [50:35] Next question. [50:37] Hello, hello, hello. [50:39] Thank you. [50:41] Senator Warren [50:42] and Mayor Bloomberg, [50:43] this question is for you. [50:45] I want to talk about [50:46] and maybe this is appropriate. [50:48] Can I just defend [50:49] Senator Klobuchar [50:50] for a minute? [50:51] This is not right. [50:52] I understand [50:53] that she forgot a name. [50:55] It happens. [50:56] It happens to everybody [50:58] on this stage. [50:59] Look, you want to ask [51:01] about whether or not [51:02] you understand trade policy [51:04] with Mexico? [51:05] Have at it. [51:06] And if you get it wrong, [51:07] man, you ought to be [51:08] held accountable for that. [51:10] You want to ask [51:10] about the economy [51:11] and you get it wrong, [51:13] you ought to be held [51:14] accountable. [51:14] You want to ask [51:15] about a thousand [51:17] different issues [51:17] and you get it wrong, [51:19] you ought to be [51:20] held accountable. [51:21] But let's just be clear. [51:23] Missing a name [51:24] all by itself [51:25] does not indicate [51:27] that you do not [51:28] understand [51:28] what's going on. [51:30] And I just think [51:30] this is unfair. [51:33] Senator Warren, [51:34] you're right. [51:36] Senator Warren, [51:37] you're right. [51:38] But Senator Klobuchar [51:39] could not discuss [51:40] Mexican policy enough. [51:42] Fair enough. [51:42] I am the only one [51:44] who knows this man [51:45] and met with him. [51:45] I do have to respond. [51:47] Oh, man. [51:49] I pulled him up. [51:50] You have just [51:51] invoked my name again [51:52] and I ask you [51:54] to look at the interview [51:55] I did directly [51:57] after the forum [51:58] which we went [51:59] into great detail [52:00] on Latin American policy. [52:03] And I want to say [52:03] one thing about Mayor P [52:04] where we just disagree. [52:06] He was asked [52:07] on a debate stage [52:08] about the Mexican cartels [52:10] which are bad, [52:11] bad criminal organizations. [52:13] He said [52:14] that he would be open [52:15] to classifying them [52:16] as terrorist organizations. [52:18] I actually don't agree [52:19] with that. [52:20] That is a very valid [52:22] debate to have. [52:23] I don't think [52:24] that would be good [52:25] for our security coordination [52:26] with Mexico [52:27] and I think [52:28] you got that wrong. [52:29] Well, at least [52:30] that's a substantive disagreement. [52:30] I've spent more time [52:31] in Mexico than anybody. [52:32] Can I get a chance [52:32] to say something? [52:34] Hold on. [52:34] Vice President. [52:35] C. [52:36] C, thank you. [52:37] C, C. [52:37] Look, I'm the only one [52:38] who spent extensive hours, [52:40] hundreds of hours [52:41] in Latin America. [52:42] I've met with this president. [52:44] I've met with the last president, [52:45] the one before that. [52:47] I've been deeply involved [52:48] in making sure [52:49] that we have a policy [52:50] that makes more sense [52:51] than this god-awful president [52:52] we have now. [52:53] I'm the guy that put together [52:55] $750 million [52:56] to provide help [52:58] for those Latin American countries [52:59] that are the reason [53:00] why people are leaving [53:01] because there's nothing [53:02] for them to stay for. [53:04] I've spent hours [53:05] and hours and hours. [53:07] And so you want to talk [53:08] about experience [53:09] in Washington. [53:09] It's good to know [53:10] with whom you're talking. [53:12] It's good to know [53:12] what they think. [53:13] It's good to know [53:14] what you think. [53:15] And it's good to be able [53:16] to have a relationship. [53:17] That's what it's about. [53:18] All right. [53:18] Well, we are [53:19] clearly everybody's warmed up. [53:21] We're going to take [53:22] a short break [53:23] and kick off the next hour [53:24] with a topic [53:25] many voters have set us [53:26] top of mind, [53:27] the climate crisis. [53:28] We're back in a moment. [54:00] It's an issue [54:01] that uniquely impacts Nevadans. [54:03] John Ralston [54:03] from the Nevada Independent [54:05] kicks us off now. [54:09] You all ready [54:10] to play some Nevada trivia now? [54:12] I'm only half joking here. [54:15] Let's talk about this issue [54:16] because it's up there in polls. [54:19] Voters are really concerned [54:20] about it, as you all know. [54:21] What you might not know [54:22] is that Las Vegas and Reno [54:23] are the vibrant economic engines [54:25] for the state of Nevada [54:26] and are also two of the fastest [54:28] warming cities in the country. [54:32] In certain months of the year, [54:34] the heat is already [54:35] an emergency situation [54:36] for residents and for tourists [54:37] walking up and down the strip. [54:40] So I'm going to start with you, [54:41] Mr. Vice President. [54:43] What specific policies [54:45] would you implement [54:45] that would keep Las Vegas [54:47] and Reno livable [54:48] but also not hurt those economies? [54:50] It is the existential threat [54:52] that humanity faces, [54:54] global warming. [54:55] I went out to Tech [54:56] and you have a facility [54:57] where you have one of the largest, [54:59] largest solar panel arrays [55:01] in the world. [55:03] And when the fourth stage [55:05] is completed, [55:06] they will be able [55:06] to take care of 60,000 homes [55:09] for every single bit [55:10] of their needs. [55:11] And what I would do is, [55:12] number one, [55:13] work on providing [55:15] the $47 billion we have [55:17] for Tech [55:18] and for making sure [55:19] we find answers, [55:21] is to provide a way [55:22] to transmit that wind [55:23] and solar energy [55:24] across the network [55:26] of all the United States. [55:28] Invest in battery technology. [55:30] I would immediately [55:31] reinstate all of the elimination [55:33] of what Trump has eliminated [55:36] in terms of EPA. [55:38] I would secondly make sure [55:39] that we had 500,000 [55:41] new charging stations [55:43] in every new highway [55:45] we built in the United States [55:46] of America or repaired. [55:48] I would make sure [55:48] that we once again [55:50] made sure that we [55:51] got the mileage standards [55:53] back up, [55:53] which would have saved [55:54] over 12 billion barrels [55:56] of oil [55:56] had he not walked away [55:57] from it. [55:58] And I would invest [55:59] in rail, in rail. [56:01] Rail can take [56:02] hundreds of thousands, [56:03] millions of cars [56:04] off the road [56:05] if we have high-speed rail. [56:06] Thank you, [56:07] Mr. Vice President. [56:07] I want to get some [56:08] of the rest of you in on this [56:09] because you all have plans. [56:10] Mayor Bloomberg, [56:11] let me read what you said [56:13] about this issue. [56:14] You said you want to intensify [56:16] U.S. and international actions [56:18] to stop the expansion of coal. [56:21] How exactly are you going [56:22] to do that? [56:23] Well, already we've closed [56:25] 304 out of the 530 coal-fired [56:28] power plants in the United States [56:29] and we've closed 80 [56:31] out of the 200 or 300 [56:32] that are in Europe. [56:34] Bloomberg Philanthropy [56:35] is working with the Sierra Club. [56:37] That's one of the things you do. [56:39] But just let's start [56:39] at the beginning. [56:40] If you're president, [56:41] the first thing you do [56:42] the first day [56:42] is you rejoin the Paris Agreement. [56:45] This is just ridiculous [56:46] for us to drop out. [56:48] Two, America's responsibility [56:49] is to be the leader [56:51] in the world. [56:52] And if we don't, [56:52] we're the ones [56:53] that are going to get hurt [56:54] just as much as anybody else. [56:55] And that's why [56:56] I don't want to have us [56:57] cut off all relationships [56:58] with China [56:59] because you will never [56:59] solve this problem [57:00] without China and India, [57:02] Western Europe and America. [57:03] That's where most [57:04] of the greenhouse gas. [57:05] Let me just finish [57:06] one other thing. [57:06] I believe, [57:08] and you can tell me [57:09] whether this is right, [57:10] but the solar array [57:11] that the vice president [57:12] was talking about [57:13] is being closed [57:14] because it's not economic, [57:16] that you can put solar panels [57:17] in and modern technology [57:19] even more modern than that. [57:20] Mayor, I just, [57:22] I want to let Senator Warren [57:23] jump in here [57:23] just because you've said [57:24] something that's really [57:25] specific to Nevada. [57:27] And the tension here [57:28] in this state [57:29] is between people [57:30] who want renewable energy [57:31] and people want conservation [57:33] on public lands. [57:34] 85% of Nevada [57:36] is managed [57:37] by the federal government. [57:38] You have said [57:39] that you are going [57:40] to have an executive order [57:41] that would stop drilling [57:42] on public lands, [57:44] stop mining, [57:45] which is a huge industry here. [57:46] You've got to have lithium. [57:47] You've got to have copper [57:48] for renewable energy. [57:49] How do you do that? [57:50] So, look, [57:51] I think we should stop [57:52] all new drilling [57:53] and mining on public lands [57:55] and all offshore drilling. [57:57] If we need to make exceptions [57:58] because there are [57:59] specific minerals [58:00] that we've got [58:01] to have access to, [58:02] then we locate those [58:03] and we do it [58:04] not in a way [58:05] that just is about [58:06] the profits [58:06] of giant industries, [58:08] but in a way [58:09] that is sustainable [58:10] for the environment. [58:12] We cannot continue [58:13] to let our public lands [58:14] be used for profits [58:16] by those who don't care [58:18] about our environment [58:19] and are not making it better. [58:21] Look, [58:21] I'm going to say something [58:22] that is really controversial [58:24] in Washington, [58:25] but I think I'm safe [58:27] to say this here in Nevada. [58:28] I believe in science [58:30] and I believe [58:32] that the way [58:32] we're going to deal [58:34] with this problem [58:35] is that we are going [58:37] to increase [58:38] by tenfold [58:39] our investment [58:40] in science. [58:42] There's an upcoming [58:43] $27 trillion market [58:45] worldwide for green [58:48] and much of what is needed [58:49] has not yet been invented. [58:52] My proposal is [58:53] let's invent it [58:54] here in the United States [58:55] and then say [58:56] we invent it in the U.S. [58:58] you've got to build it [58:59] in the U.S. [59:00] That's a million new [59:01] manufacturing jobs. [59:02] We're going to stick [59:03] to this topic, [59:04] but Senator Sanders, [59:05] I'm going to move to fracking. [59:07] You want a total ban [59:08] on natural gas extraction, [59:10] fracking, [59:10] in the next five years. [59:11] The industry obviously [59:12] supports a lot of jobs [59:14] around the country, [59:14] including thousands [59:15] in the battleground [59:16] state of Pennsylvania. [59:17] One unit official there [59:19] told the New York Times, [59:20] quote, [59:20] if we end up [59:21] with a Democratic candidate [59:22] that supports a fracking ban, [59:24] I'm going to tell my members [59:25] that either you don't vote [59:26] or you vote for the other guy. [59:28] What do you tell these workers? [59:30] It's supporting [59:30] a big industry right now, sir. [59:33] What I tell these workers [59:34] is that the scientists [59:36] are telling us [59:37] that if we don't act [59:39] incredibly boldly [59:41] within the next six, [59:43] seven years, [59:44] there will be [59:44] irreparable damage done [59:46] not just to Nevada, [59:48] not just to Vermont [59:49] or Massachusetts, [59:50] but to the entire world. [59:53] Joe said it right. [59:54] This is an existential threat. [59:56] You know what that means, Chuck? [59:57] That means we're fighting [59:59] for the future [1:00:00] of this planet. [1:00:01] And the Green New Deal [1:00:03] that I support, [1:00:05] by the way, [1:00:06] will create up to [1:00:07] 20 million good-paying jobs [1:00:10] as we move our energy system [1:00:12] away from fossil fuel [1:00:14] to energy efficiency [1:00:15] and sustainable energy. [1:00:18] This is a moral issue, [1:00:20] my friends. [1:00:22] We have to take [1:00:23] the responsibility [1:00:25] of making sure [1:00:26] that the planet [1:00:27] we leave [1:00:28] our children [1:00:29] and grandchildren [1:00:30] is a planet [1:00:32] that is healthy [1:00:33] and habitable, [1:00:34] that is more important [1:00:35] than the profits [1:00:36] of the fossil fuel industry. [1:00:38] I'm going to keep this going. [1:00:39] Senator Klobuchar, [1:00:40] you're not on the same page [1:00:42] at a total ban of fracking. [1:00:44] You call it [1:00:45] a transitional fuel, [1:00:47] but scientists [1:00:48] are sounding this alarm now. [1:00:51] Do you take these warnings [1:00:52] that maybe fracking [1:00:53] is a step backwards, [1:00:54] not a step forward, [1:00:55] not a transition? [1:00:56] I've made it very clear [1:00:57] that we have to review [1:00:58] all of the permits [1:00:59] that are out there right now [1:01:01] for natural gas [1:01:02] and then make decisions [1:01:04] on each one of them [1:01:05] and then not grant new ones [1:01:07] until we make sure [1:01:08] that it's safe. [1:01:08] But it is a transitional fuel. [1:01:10] And I want to add something [1:01:11] that really hasn't been brought up [1:01:13] by my colleagues. [1:01:14] This is a crisis [1:01:15] and a lot of our plans [1:01:16] are very similar [1:01:17] to get to carbon neutral [1:01:18] by 2045, 2050, [1:01:21] something like that. [1:01:22] But we're not going to be able [1:01:23] to pass this [1:01:24] unless we bring people with us. [1:01:26] I'm looking at these [1:01:27] incredible senators [1:01:28] from Nevada, [1:01:29] Catherine Cortez Masto [1:01:30] and Jackie Rosen, [1:01:32] and I'm thinking that [1:01:33] they know how important this is. [1:01:35] And you can do this [1:01:36] in a smart way. [1:01:38] One, get back into [1:01:39] that international climate [1:01:40] change agreement. [1:01:41] Two, clean power rules, [1:01:43] bring those back. [1:01:44] And the president can do this [1:01:45] herself without Congress [1:01:47] as well as the gas mileage standard. [1:01:49] But when it comes to putting [1:01:50] a sweep, a price on carbon, [1:01:52] this is very important, Chuck, [1:01:53] we have to make sure [1:01:54] that that money goes back [1:01:55] directly as dividends [1:01:56] to the people [1:01:57] that are going to need help [1:01:58] for paying their bills. [1:02:00] Otherwise, we're not going to pass it. [1:02:02] So there has to be a heart [1:02:03] to the policy to get this done. [1:02:05] Senator Warren, [1:02:05] address the worker issue, [1:02:06] if you don't mind, as well. [1:02:07] Can you address the worker issue? [1:02:08] Yes, we can have [1:02:11] a Green New Deal [1:02:12] and create jobs. [1:02:14] We need people [1:02:15] in infrastructure [1:02:16] who will help build. [1:02:18] We have... [1:02:18] They can lose that job [1:02:19] tomorrow, though. [1:02:19] That's what they're concerned about. [1:02:21] Those jobs are for tomorrow. [1:02:23] Those are the ones [1:02:23] we need to be working on [1:02:25] to harden our infrastructure [1:02:25] right now. [1:02:26] But listen to [1:02:27] Senator Klobuchar's point. [1:02:29] She says we have to think [1:02:31] smaller in order [1:02:32] to get it passed. [1:02:33] I don't think [1:02:34] that's the right approach here. [1:02:35] Why can't we get [1:02:37] anything passed [1:02:38] in Washington [1:02:39] on climate? [1:02:40] Everyone understands [1:02:41] the urgency, [1:02:42] but we've got two problems. [1:02:44] The first is corruption, [1:02:46] an industry [1:02:47] that makes its money [1:02:49] felt all through Washington. [1:02:51] The first thing [1:02:51] I want to do in Washington [1:02:52] is pass my anti-corruption bill [1:02:54] so that we can start [1:02:56] making the changes [1:02:57] we need to make on climate. [1:02:58] And the second [1:02:59] is the filibuster. [1:03:00] If you're not willing [1:03:02] to roll back the filibuster, [1:03:03] then you're giving [1:03:04] the fossil fuel industry [1:03:06] a veto over all of the work. [1:03:08] Senator, thank you. [1:03:08] Vanessa's got the next question. [1:03:10] Vice President Biden, [1:03:12] you have said [1:03:13] that you want to hold [1:03:14] oil and gas executives [1:03:16] accountable for their role [1:03:17] in harming our planet. [1:03:19] You have even suggested [1:03:20] that you might [1:03:21] put them in jail. [1:03:22] Which companies [1:03:23] are you talking about [1:03:24] and how far [1:03:25] are you willing to go? [1:03:27] I'm willing to go [1:03:27] as far as we have to go. [1:03:28] First of all, [1:03:29] I would eliminate [1:03:30] all the subsidies [1:03:31] we have for oil and gas. [1:03:33] Eliminate it, period. [1:03:34] That would save [1:03:35] millions and millions [1:03:36] and billions of dollars. [1:03:37] Number two, [1:03:38] I think that any executive [1:03:40] who is engaged in them [1:03:41] and by the way, [1:03:42] minority communities [1:03:43] and the communities [1:03:43] are being most badly hurt [1:03:45] by the way [1:03:46] in which we deal [1:03:47] with climate change. [1:03:48] They are the ones [1:03:49] who become the victims. [1:03:50] That's where the asthma is. [1:03:51] That's where the [1:03:52] groundwater supply [1:03:53] has been polluted. [1:03:54] That's where, in fact, [1:03:55] people, in fact, [1:03:56] do not have the opportunity [1:03:57] to be able to get away [1:03:59] from everything [1:04:00] from still asbestos [1:04:02] in the walls [1:04:02] of our schools. [1:04:03] I have a trillion-dollar [1:04:04] program for infrastructure. [1:04:07] That will provide [1:04:08] for thousands and thousands [1:04:09] of new jobs, [1:04:11] not $15 an hour, [1:04:12] but $50 an hour [1:04:13] plus benefits, unions, [1:04:15] unions being able [1:04:16] to do that. [1:04:17] And what it does is [1:04:18] it will change the nature. [1:04:20] Look, here's the last point [1:04:21] I want to make. [1:04:21] My time's going to run out. [1:04:22] Here's the last point [1:04:23] I want to make to you. [1:04:24] On day one, [1:04:25] when I'm elected president, [1:04:26] I'm going to invite [1:04:28] all of the members [1:04:29] of the Paris Accord [1:04:31] to Washington, D.C. [1:04:33] They make up 85% [1:04:35] of the problem. [1:04:36] They know me. [1:04:37] I'm used to dealing [1:04:37] with international relations. [1:04:39] I will get them [1:04:40] to up the ante in a big way. [1:04:41] Vice President Biden, [1:04:41] you didn't answer [1:04:42] to my questions. [1:04:43] I thought I did. [1:04:44] What would you do [1:04:45] with these companies [1:04:46] that are responsible [1:04:47] for the destruction [1:04:48] of our planet? [1:04:49] What would I do with them? [1:04:50] I would make sure they, [1:04:51] number one, stop. [1:04:53] Number two, [1:04:53] if you demonstrate [1:04:54] that they, in fact, [1:04:55] have done things already [1:04:57] that are bad [1:04:57] and they've been lying, [1:04:59] they should be able [1:05:00] to be sued. [1:05:01] They should be able [1:05:01] to be held personally [1:05:02] accountable. [1:05:03] And not only the company, [1:05:06] not the stockholders, [1:05:07] but the CEOs [1:05:08] of those companies. [1:05:09] They should be engaged. [1:05:11] And it's a little bit like, [1:05:12] look, this is the industry [1:05:13] we should be able to sue. [1:05:15] We should go after, [1:05:16] just like we did [1:05:16] the drug companies, [1:05:17] just like we did [1:05:18] with the tobacco companies. [1:05:20] The only company [1:05:20] we can't go after [1:05:21] are gun manufacturers [1:05:22] because of my buddy here. [1:05:23] But that's a different issue. [1:05:24] We're going to stay. [1:05:25] We're going to stay [1:05:27] on the topic. [1:05:28] My question is to Mayor Bloomberg. [1:05:29] Mayor Bloomberg, [1:05:30] your business is heavily [1:05:31] invested in China. [1:05:32] I think you mentioned [1:05:33] that a few questions back. [1:05:34] The number one producer [1:05:35] in the world [1:05:35] of carbon emissions. [1:05:37] How far would you go [1:05:38] to force China [1:05:39] to reduce those emissions [1:05:41] and tackle the climate crisis? [1:05:43] Well, you're not going [1:05:43] to go to war with them. [1:05:45] You have to negotiate [1:05:46] with them and try to, [1:05:47] and we've seen how well [1:05:48] that works with tariffs [1:05:49] that are hurting us. [1:05:50] What you have to do [1:05:51] is convince the Chinese [1:05:52] that it is in their interest [1:05:54] as well. [1:05:55] Their people are going to die [1:05:56] just as our people [1:05:57] are going to die, [1:05:58] and we work together. [1:05:59] In all fairness, [1:06:00] the Chinese have slowed down. [1:06:01] It's India that is [1:06:02] an even bigger problem. [1:06:04] But it is an enormous problem. [1:06:06] Nobody's doing anything about it. [1:06:07] We could right here in America [1:06:09] make a big difference. [1:06:10] We're closing [1:06:10] the coal-fired power plants. [1:06:12] If we enforce some of the rules [1:06:13] on fracking [1:06:14] so that they don't release methane [1:06:16] into the air [1:06:17] and into the water, [1:06:18] you'll make a big difference. [1:06:19] But we're not going to get rid [1:06:20] of fracking for a while. [1:06:21] And we frack instantly, [1:06:22] not just national gas. [1:06:23] You frack oil as well. [1:06:25] It is a technique. [1:06:27] And when it's done poorly, [1:06:28] like they're doing [1:06:29] in too many places [1:06:30] where the methane [1:06:31] gets out into the air, [1:06:32] it is very damaging. [1:06:33] But it's a transition fuel. [1:06:35] I think the senator [1:06:35] said it right. [1:06:36] We want to go [1:06:37] to all renewables, [1:06:38] but that's still [1:06:39] many years from now. [1:06:40] And before, [1:06:41] I think the senator [1:06:42] mentioned 2050 for some data. [1:06:44] No scientist thinks [1:06:45] the numbers for 2050 [1:06:47] are 2050 anymore. [1:06:48] They're 2040, 2035. [1:06:49] The world is coming apart [1:06:51] faster than any scientific [1:06:53] study had predicted. [1:06:57] You've just got to do something. [1:06:58] Mayor Bloomberg, [1:06:58] Mayor Buttigieg, [1:07:00] your thoughts. [1:07:01] Let's be real [1:07:01] about the deadline. [1:07:02] It's not 2050. [1:07:03] It's not 2040. [1:07:04] It's not 2030. [1:07:05] It's 2020. [1:07:06] Because if we don't elect [1:07:08] a president who actually [1:07:09] believes in climate science [1:07:10] now, we will never meet [1:07:12] any of the other scientific [1:07:14] or policy deadlines [1:07:15] that we need to. [1:07:16] So first of all, [1:07:19] let's make sure [1:07:19] we're actually positioned [1:07:21] to win, [1:07:22] which once again, [1:07:23] if we put forward [1:07:24] two of the most polarizing [1:07:26] figures on this stage [1:07:28] as the only option, [1:07:29] is going to be [1:07:30] a real struggle. [1:07:31] Now, I've got a plan [1:07:32] to get us carbon neutral [1:07:33] by 2050. [1:07:34] And I think everybody [1:07:35] up here has a plan [1:07:36] that more or less [1:07:37] does the same. [1:07:38] So the real question [1:07:39] is how are we going [1:07:40] to actually get it done? [1:07:42] We need leadership [1:07:43] to make this [1:07:44] a national project [1:07:45] that breaks down [1:07:46] the partisan [1:07:47] and political tug of war [1:07:49] that prevents anything [1:07:50] from getting done. [1:07:51] How do you do it? [1:07:52] Well, first of all, [1:07:53] making sure that those jobs [1:07:55] are available quickly. [1:07:56] Secondly, [1:07:57] ensuring that we are [1:07:58] pulling in those [1:07:59] various sectors [1:08:00] who have been made [1:08:00] to feel like they're [1:08:01] part of the problem [1:08:02] from farming to industry [1:08:04] and fund as well [1:08:05] as urge them [1:08:06] to do the right thing. [1:08:07] And then global [1:08:08] climate diplomacy. [1:08:10] I'm a little skeptical [1:08:11] of the idea [1:08:11] that convincing [1:08:12] is going to do the trick [1:08:13] when it comes [1:08:14] to working with China. [1:08:15] America has repeatedly [1:08:16] overestimated our ability [1:08:18] to shape Chinese ambitions. [1:08:20] But what we can do [1:08:21] is ensure that we use [1:08:22] the hard tools of our... [1:08:23] Mayor Buttigieg, [1:08:23] let me hear from Senator Warner. [1:08:26] To enforce what has to happen. [1:08:27] Yes, I want to make sure [1:08:28] that the question [1:08:29] of environmental justice [1:08:30] gets more than a glancing blow [1:08:32] in this debate. [1:08:33] Because for generations now [1:08:36] in this country, [1:08:38] toxic waste dumps, [1:08:40] polluting factories [1:08:41] have been located [1:08:42] in or near communities [1:08:44] of color [1:08:45] over and over and over. [1:08:47] And the consequences [1:08:48] are felt [1:08:49] in the health [1:08:50] of young African-American babies. [1:08:53] It's felt [1:08:53] in the health [1:08:54] of seniors, [1:08:55] people with compromised [1:08:56] immune systems. [1:08:58] It's also felt economically. [1:09:00] Who wants to move [1:09:01] into an area [1:09:02] where the air smells bad [1:09:03] or you can't drink the water? [1:09:05] I have a commitment [1:09:06] of a trillion dollars [1:09:08] to repair the damage [1:09:10] that this nation [1:09:11] has permitted [1:09:12] to inflict [1:09:13] on communities of color [1:09:15] for generations now. [1:09:16] We have to own up [1:09:17] to our responsibility. [1:09:19] We cannot simply talk [1:09:20] about climate change [1:09:21] in big global terms. [1:09:23] We need to talk about it [1:09:24] in terms of rescuing [1:09:26] the communities [1:09:26] that have been damaged. [1:09:27] Senator Warren, [1:09:28] thank you. [1:09:29] Hallie? [1:09:29] Mr. President Biden, [1:09:30] I want to ask you [1:09:31] about something else [1:09:31] that is important [1:09:32] to people here. [1:09:33] I want to ask you [1:09:33] about Latinos owning [1:09:34] one out of every four [1:09:35] new small businesses [1:09:36] in the United States. [1:09:38] Many of them [1:09:38] have benefited [1:09:39] from President Trump's [1:09:41] tax cuts [1:09:41] and they may be hesitant [1:09:42] about new taxes [1:09:43] or regulations. [1:09:45] Will taxes [1:09:45] on their small businesses [1:09:47] go up under [1:09:48] your administration? [1:09:49] No. [1:09:50] Taxes on the small [1:09:51] and small go up. [1:09:51] Matter of fact, [1:09:52] we're going to make sure [1:09:53] there's more money available [1:09:54] for small businesses [1:09:56] in the Latino community [1:09:57] and the black community [1:09:58] to be able to get [1:09:59] the capital [1:09:59] to start businesses. [1:10:01] At the Treasury Department, [1:10:02] there's going to be [1:10:02] a window available [1:10:03] where we can significantly [1:10:05] increase the amount [1:10:05] of money available [1:10:06] so people can borrow [1:10:08] the money to get started. [1:10:09] They have demonstrated [1:10:10] they're incredibly successful. [1:10:13] We should not be [1:10:13] raising taxes on them. [1:10:14] We should start [1:10:15] rewarding work, [1:10:17] not just wealth. [1:10:18] That's why we have to [1:10:19] change the tax code [1:10:20] the way it is. [1:10:21] That's why the wealthy [1:10:22] start to pay their fair share. [1:10:24] And that's why [1:10:25] we have to focus on [1:10:26] giving people [1:10:27] the ability to garner wealth, [1:10:29] generate wealth. [1:10:30] And that's why [1:10:31] this whole idea [1:10:31] of redlining, [1:10:33] lending to people [1:10:33] in areas wasn't the cause [1:10:35] of Wall Street failing. [1:10:37] The greed of Wall Street [1:10:38] was the reason [1:10:39] why it occurred, [1:10:40] not redlining. [1:10:41] And lastly, [1:10:42] I want to say, [1:10:43] look, [1:10:44] the idea of China. [1:10:45] China is, [1:10:47] in their Belt and Road proposal, [1:10:48] they're taking [1:10:49] the dirtiest coal [1:10:50] in the world, [1:10:51] mostly out of Mongolia, [1:10:52] and spreading it [1:10:53] around the world. [1:10:54] It's clear. [1:10:55] It may get clear [1:10:55] when you call them [1:10:56] to Washington [1:10:57] in the first 100 days. [1:10:58] If you continue, [1:10:59] you will suffer [1:11:00] severe consequences [1:11:01] because the rest [1:11:02] of the world [1:11:03] will impose tariffs [1:11:04] on everything [1:11:05] you're selling [1:11:06] because you are [1:11:07] undercutting [1:11:08] the entire economy. [1:11:09] Thank you, [1:11:09] Mr. Vice President. [1:11:10] Mayor Buttigieg, [1:11:10] will taxes on those [1:11:11] businesses go up [1:11:12] under you? [1:11:12] Not if they are [1:11:14] small businesses. [1:11:15] I mean, [1:11:15] what we've got to do [1:11:16] is level the playing field [1:11:17] where a company [1:11:18] like Amazon [1:11:19] or Chevron [1:11:20] is paying literally [1:11:21] zero on billions [1:11:23] of dollars in profits, [1:11:24] and it puts small [1:11:25] businesses like the ones [1:11:26] that are revitalizing [1:11:27] my own city, [1:11:28] often Latino-owned [1:11:29] on our west side [1:11:30] at a disadvantage. [1:11:32] We need to recognize [1:11:33] that investing [1:11:34] in Latino entrepreneurship [1:11:35] is not just an investment [1:11:36] in the Latino community, [1:11:37] it is an investment [1:11:38] in the future of America. [1:11:40] And it is time [1:11:40] for a president [1:11:41] who understands [1:11:42] the value of immigration [1:11:45] in lifting up [1:11:46] all of our communities [1:11:47] and our country. [1:11:48] We're getting the exact [1:11:49] opposite message [1:11:50] from the current president. [1:11:52] And it is time [1:11:53] to recognize [1:11:53] not just the diversity [1:11:55] of the Latino community, [1:11:56] but the importance [1:11:57] of issues [1:11:57] like economic empowerment. [1:11:59] We have an entrepreneurship [1:12:04] gap in America, [1:12:06] and that is a gap [1:12:07] between white entrepreneurs [1:12:09] and black [1:12:10] and Latino entrepreneurs. [1:12:12] And the principal reason [1:12:13] for this [1:12:13] is they don't have [1:12:15] the money for equity [1:12:16] to get the businesses started. [1:12:18] It's about [1:12:19] a $7 billion gap. [1:12:22] We want to have [1:12:22] real entrepreneurship [1:12:24] and a level playing field. [1:12:26] I have a plan [1:12:27] to put the $7 billion in [1:12:29] to have the fund managed [1:12:31] by the people [1:12:32] who are routinely cut out. [1:12:34] It can't just be [1:12:36] about taxes. [1:12:37] We need to make an investment [1:12:38] to level the playing field [1:12:40] and end the black... [1:12:41] Look, I want to get at something. [1:12:44] Mayor Bloomberg, [1:12:44] the vice president [1:12:46] talked about redlining. [1:12:47] He's the only one here [1:12:47] that started a business. [1:12:49] Mayor Bloomberg, [1:12:49] you seem to imply [1:12:51] that redlining [1:12:52] and stopping [1:12:53] that is some... [1:12:55] That stopping redlining [1:12:56] is somehow contributed [1:12:57] to the financial crisis. [1:12:59] No, that's exactly wrong. [1:13:00] And that was the implication [1:13:01] that came out into quotes. [1:13:02] So I want to give you [1:13:03] a chance to clarify this. [1:13:04] I've been well on the record [1:13:05] against redlining [1:13:07] since I worked on Wall Street. [1:13:10] I was against it [1:13:11] during the financial crisis. [1:13:12] I've been against it since. [1:13:13] The financial crisis [1:13:14] came about [1:13:15] because the people [1:13:16] that took the mortgages, [1:13:17] packaged them, [1:13:18] and other people bought them. [1:13:19] Those were... [1:13:20] That was where [1:13:20] all the disaster was. [1:13:22] Redlining is still a practice [1:13:24] in some places, [1:13:25] and we've got to cut it out. [1:13:27] But it's just not true. [1:13:30] What I was going to say... [1:13:31] Maybe I want to talk [1:13:31] about businesses. [1:13:32] I'm the only one here [1:13:33] that I think [1:13:33] has ever started a business. [1:13:35] Is that fair? [1:13:37] Okay. [1:13:38] What we need is... [1:13:39] I can tell you [1:13:40] in New York City [1:13:41] we had programs. [1:13:43] There are mentoring programs [1:13:44] for the young business people [1:13:46] so they can learn [1:13:46] how to start a business. [1:13:48] We had programs [1:13:48] that could get them [1:13:49] seed capital. [1:13:50] We had programs [1:13:51] to get branch banking [1:13:52] in their neighborhoods [1:13:53] because if you don't have [1:13:54] a branch bank there, [1:13:55] you can't get a checking account. [1:13:57] You can't get a checking account. [1:13:58] You can't get a loan. [1:13:59] You can't get a loan. [1:13:59] You can't get a mortgage. [1:14:00] Then you don't have any wealth. [1:14:02] There's ways to fix this, [1:14:03] and it doesn't take [1:14:04] trillions of dollars. [1:14:05] It takes us to focus [1:14:07] on the problems [1:14:08] of small businesses. [1:14:09] Senator Sanders, [1:14:09] 45 seconds [1:14:10] and we're going to move on. [1:14:11] Senator Sanders, [1:14:12] 45 seconds. [1:14:13] You know, [1:14:14] when we talk about [1:14:15] a corrupt political system [1:14:17] bought by billionaires [1:14:19] like Mr. Bloomberg, [1:14:22] it manifests itself [1:14:23] in a tax code [1:14:24] in which not only [1:14:27] is Amazon [1:14:27] and many other [1:14:28] major corporations, [1:14:29] some owned [1:14:30] by the wealthiest people [1:14:31] in this country [1:14:31] not paying a nickel [1:14:32] in taxes, [1:14:33] we have the insane situation [1:14:35] that billionaires today, [1:14:38] if you can believe it, [1:14:39] have an effective tax rate [1:14:41] lower than the middle class. [1:14:44] Senator, [1:14:44] you're writing the tax code. [1:14:46] Why are you complaining? [1:14:48] Who wrote the code? [1:14:50] You did. [1:14:51] You and your campaign, [1:14:52] you and your campaign, [1:14:54] not me, [1:14:54] you and your campaign contributions [1:14:57] electing people [1:14:58] who represent [1:14:59] the wealthy [1:15:00] and the powerful. [1:15:01] Those are the folks. [1:15:02] Democrats, thank you. [1:15:03] Well, and Republicans too. [1:15:05] Okay. [1:15:05] And George W. Bush as well. [1:15:07] Senator Klobuchar, [1:15:08] let me address. [1:15:10] I was thinking [1:15:10] there's going to be [1:15:11] a boxing rematch [1:15:12] on Saturday in Vegas [1:15:14] and those guys [1:15:14] should go down there. [1:15:15] Senator Klobuchar, [1:15:16] I actually want to get you [1:15:18] to something about [1:15:19] Senator Sanders tweeted [1:15:20] last year, [1:15:22] billionaires should not exist. [1:15:25] Okay. [1:15:25] What say you? [1:15:26] I believe in capitalism, [1:15:29] but I think our, [1:15:30] the goal of someone [1:15:32] in government [1:15:33] and a president [1:15:34] of the United States [1:15:35] should be a check on that. [1:15:37] I'm not going to limit [1:15:38] what people make, [1:15:39] but I think right now [1:15:40] our tax code [1:15:41] is so tilted [1:15:43] against regular people [1:15:45] and that is what's wrong. [1:15:46] I was thinking of your question [1:15:47] about small businesses. [1:15:49] The small businesses I talk to, [1:15:50] they have trouble getting employees [1:15:52] because their employees [1:15:52] don't have childcare. [1:15:54] We should have universal childcare. [1:15:55] And we have not been talking enough [1:15:58] about Donald Trump. [1:15:59] And what's, [1:16:00] let's just talk about Donald Trump [1:16:02] because he signed that tax bill [1:16:04] that helped the wealthy [1:16:05] and he went down to Mar-a-Lago [1:16:07] and he said to all his friends, [1:16:09] you just got a lot richer. [1:16:11] That is exhibit A. [1:16:12] And I can tell you [1:16:13] the hardworking people in Nevada [1:16:15] were not in that room. [1:16:16] So the key to me [1:16:17] is to not limit [1:16:19] what people can make, [1:16:21] but make sure [1:16:21] that we have a government [1:16:23] that it's fair for everyone. [1:16:24] So Senator Sanders, [1:16:25] what did you mean [1:16:26] that you don't think [1:16:26] they should exist? [1:16:27] I'll tell you what I mean. [1:16:27] What did that mean? [1:16:28] We have a grotesque [1:16:30] and immoral distribution [1:16:32] of wealth and income. [1:16:35] Mike Bloomberg owns more wealth [1:16:37] than the bottom 125 million Americans. [1:16:42] That's wrong. [1:16:43] That's immoral. [1:16:44] That should not be the case [1:16:45] when we got a half a million people [1:16:46] sleeping out on the streets, [1:16:48] where we have kids [1:16:49] who cannot afford to go to college, [1:16:53] when we have 45 million people [1:16:55] dealing with student debt. [1:16:57] We have enormous problems [1:16:59] facing this country [1:17:00] and we cannot continue [1:17:02] seeing a situation [1:17:03] where in the last three years, [1:17:05] billionaires in this country [1:17:07] saw an $850 billion increase [1:17:10] in their wealth. [1:17:11] Congratulations, Mr. Bloomberg. [1:17:13] But the average American last year [1:17:15] saw less than a 1% increase [1:17:18] in his or her income. [1:17:19] That's wrong. [1:17:20] Mayor Bloomberg, should you exist? [1:17:22] I can't speak for all billionaires. [1:17:24] All I know is I've been very lucky, [1:17:26] made a lot of money [1:17:26] and I'm giving it all away [1:17:28] to make this country better. [1:17:29] And a good chunk of it [1:17:30] goes to the Democratic Party as well. [1:17:33] Is it too much? [1:17:34] Have you earned too much money? [1:17:35] Has it been an obscene amount of money? [1:17:38] Should you have earned that much money? [1:17:40] Yes. [1:17:41] I worked very hard for it [1:17:43] and I'm giving it away. [1:17:45] Thank you. [1:17:45] Halleck. [1:17:46] Mayor Bruna, Judge, [1:17:46] Senator Sanders, [1:17:47] Senator Sanders has a proposal [1:17:49] that would require all large companies [1:17:51] to turn over up to 20% of their ownership [1:17:54] to employees over time. [1:17:56] Is that a good idea? [1:17:57] I think that employee ownership [1:17:59] of companies is a great idea. [1:18:01] I'm not sure it makes sense [1:18:02] to command those companies to do it. [1:18:04] If we really want to deliver [1:18:06] less inequality in this country, [1:18:08] then we've got to start with the tax code. [1:18:10] And we've got to start with investments [1:18:11] in how people are able [1:18:13] to live the American dream, [1:18:14] which is in serious, serious decline. [1:18:17] Matter of fact, [1:18:18] last time I checked the list [1:18:19] of countries to live out [1:18:20] the American dream, [1:18:21] in other words, [1:18:21] to be born at the bottom [1:18:23] and come out at the top, [1:18:24] we're not even in the top 10. [1:18:26] Number one place to live out [1:18:27] the American dream right now [1:18:28] is Denmark. [1:18:29] And as the, I think, [1:18:32] lone person on this stage [1:18:34] who's not a millionaire, [1:18:35] let alone a billionaire, [1:18:37] I believe that part of what needs to change [1:18:39] is for the voices of the communities [1:18:40] that haven't felt heard [1:18:42] on Wall Street or in Washington [1:18:44] to actually be brought to Capitol Hill. [1:18:47] It's why I am building a politics [1:18:49] designed around inclusion, [1:18:51] designed around belonging, [1:18:53] because the one thing [1:18:54] that will definitely perpetuate [1:18:56] the income inequality [1:18:58] we're living with right now [1:18:59] is for Donald Trump [1:19:00] to be re-elected [1:19:01] because we polarized this country [1:19:03] with the wrong nominee. [1:19:04] Senator Sanders, [1:19:05] it's your policy. [1:19:06] That's to me. [1:19:07] It is your policy. [1:19:08] Thank you. [1:19:08] It is my policy, [1:19:09] and I'm very proud of that policy. [1:19:11] All right? [1:19:11] What we need to do [1:19:13] to deal with this grotesque level [1:19:14] of income and wealth inequality [1:19:16] is make sure [1:19:17] that those people [1:19:18] who are working, [1:19:19] you know what, [1:19:20] Mr. Bloomberg, [1:19:21] it wasn't you [1:19:21] who made all that money. [1:19:22] Maybe your workers [1:19:23] played some role [1:19:24] in that as well. [1:19:25] And it is important [1:19:28] that those workers [1:19:29] are able to share the benefits. [1:19:31] Also, when we have [1:19:33] so many people [1:19:34] who go to work every day [1:19:35] and they feel not good [1:19:37] about their jobs, [1:19:39] they feel like cogs in a machine, [1:19:40] I want workers to be able [1:19:42] to sit on corporate boards [1:19:43] as well [1:19:44] so they can have some say [1:19:46] over what happens [1:19:47] to their lives. [1:19:47] Mayor Bloomberg, [1:19:48] you own a large company. [1:19:49] Would you support [1:19:50] what Senator Sanders [1:19:51] is proposing? [1:19:52] Absolutely not. [1:19:53] I can't think of a ways [1:19:54] that would make it easier [1:19:55] for Donald Trump [1:19:56] to get re-elected [1:19:57] than listening [1:19:57] to this conversation. [1:19:59] This is ridiculous. [1:20:02] We're not going [1:20:02] to throw out capitalism. [1:20:04] We tried that. [1:20:05] Other countries tried that. [1:20:06] It was called communism [1:20:07] and it just didn't work. [1:20:08] So let me make a proposal [1:20:11] that will work, [1:20:13] that has not only support [1:20:15] from a majority [1:20:16] of Democrats, [1:20:17] but also from a majority [1:20:19] of the independents [1:20:20] and a majority [1:20:21] of Republicans. [1:20:22] And that is [1:20:23] a two-cent wealth tax [1:20:24] on all fortunes [1:20:26] above $50 million. [1:20:28] You hit a billion, [1:20:28] you've got to pay [1:20:29] a few pennies more. [1:20:30] This is a tax [1:20:31] on the top [1:20:32] one-tenth of one percent [1:20:35] in America. [1:20:36] And it permits us [1:20:37] to start to restructure [1:20:38] our economy. [1:20:39] It means we can afford [1:20:41] universal child care [1:20:42] for every baby [1:20:43] in this country [1:20:44] aged zero to five. [1:20:46] It means we can have [1:20:47] universal pre-K [1:20:48] for every child [1:20:50] in America. [1:20:50] It means we can raise [1:20:52] the wages of every [1:20:53] child care worker [1:20:54] and preschool teacher [1:20:55] and stop exploiting [1:20:56] the black and brown women [1:20:57] who do this work. [1:20:59] It means we can put [1:21:00] $800 billion [1:21:02] into our public schools, [1:21:05] quadruple funding [1:21:06] for Title I schools. [1:21:08] And as a former [1:21:08] special education teacher, [1:21:10] we could fully fund IDEA [1:21:12] so children with disabilities [1:21:14] would get the full education [1:21:15] they need. [1:21:16] We could do college [1:21:18] and put $50 billion [1:21:20] into our historically [1:21:21] black colleges [1:21:22] and universities [1:21:23] and we could cancel [1:21:26] student loan debt [1:21:26] for 43 million Americans. [1:21:28] Senator, thank you. [1:21:28] That's something [1:21:29] a majority of Americans [1:21:31] support, [1:21:32] a two-cent wealth tax. [1:21:34] It is a question of values. [1:21:36] Do we want to invest [1:21:37] in Mr. Bloomberg [1:21:37] or do we want to invest [1:21:39] in an entire generation [1:21:40] of young voters? [1:21:41] Senator Sanders, [1:21:41] my next question is for you. [1:21:43] Senator Sanders, [1:21:44] our latest NBC News [1:21:45] Wall Street Journal [1:21:46] poll released yesterday. [1:21:47] Two-thirds of all voters [1:21:49] said they were uncomfortable [1:21:50] with a socialist candidate [1:21:52] for president. [1:21:53] What do you say [1:21:54] to those voters, sir? [1:21:55] What was the result [1:21:55] of that poll? [1:21:58] Who was winning? [1:22:01] The question is to you. [1:22:03] Well, the question was [1:22:04] that I was winning [1:22:04] and I think by a fairly [1:22:05] comfortable margin. [1:22:06] Mike mentioned that. [1:22:07] But here is the point. [1:22:09] Let's talk about [1:22:10] democratic socialism, [1:22:11] not communism, [1:22:12] Mr. Bloomberg. [1:22:12] That's a cheap shot. [1:22:14] Let's talk about [1:22:14] democratic... [1:22:15] Let's talk about [1:22:16] what goes on [1:22:16] in countries like Denmark. [1:22:18] Where Pete correctly [1:22:19] pointed out, [1:22:20] they have a much higher [1:22:21] quality of life [1:22:22] in many respects [1:22:22] than we do. [1:22:23] What are we talking about? [1:22:24] We are living [1:22:25] in many ways [1:22:26] in a socialist society [1:22:28] right now. [1:22:29] Problem is, [1:22:29] as Dr. Martin Luther King [1:22:31] reminded us, [1:22:32] we have socialism [1:22:33] for the very rich, [1:22:35] rugged individualism [1:22:36] for the poor. [1:22:38] Wait a second. [1:22:38] Let me finish. [1:22:40] When Donald Trump [1:22:42] gets $800 million [1:22:44] in tax breaks [1:22:45] and subsidies [1:22:46] to build luxury [1:22:49] condominiums, [1:22:50] that's socialism [1:22:51] for the rich. [1:22:52] Wait, wait. [1:22:53] Walmart, [1:22:54] we have to subsidize [1:22:55] Walmart's workers [1:22:56] who are on Medicaid [1:22:58] and food stamps [1:22:59] because the wealthiest [1:23:00] family in America [1:23:02] pays starvation wages. [1:23:04] That's socialism [1:23:05] for the rich. [1:23:06] This is... [1:23:07] I believe [1:23:08] in democratic socialism [1:23:09] for working people, [1:23:11] not billionaires. [1:23:13] Healthcare for all, [1:23:14] educational opportunity [1:23:16] for all... [1:23:17] Senator, thank you. [1:23:17] Mayor Bloomberg, [1:23:18] would you like... [1:23:19] The question was [1:23:20] about socialism? [1:23:20] What a wonderful country [1:23:22] we have. [1:23:22] The best-known socialist [1:23:23] in the country [1:23:24] happens to be a millionaire [1:23:25] with three houses. [1:23:26] What did I miss here? [1:23:27] Well, you'll miss [1:23:28] that I work in Washington, [1:23:30] House 1. [1:23:31] That's the first problem. [1:23:32] Live in Burlington, [1:23:33] House 2. [1:23:34] That's good. [1:23:34] And like thousands [1:23:35] of other Vermonters, [1:23:36] I do have a summer camp. [1:23:38] Forgive me for that. [1:23:39] Where is your home? [1:23:40] Which tax haven [1:23:41] do you have your home? [1:23:42] New York City, [1:23:43] thank you very much. [1:23:44] And I pay all my taxes. [1:23:46] And I'm happy to do it [1:23:47] because I get something for it. [1:23:49] And let me say, [1:23:50] I thought that the senator [1:23:51] next to me was half right. [1:23:53] I agree we should raise taxes [1:23:55] on the... [1:23:55] No, I disagree with the senator [1:23:58] on the wealth tax, [1:24:00] but I do agree with her [1:24:01] that the rich aren't paying [1:24:02] their fair share. [1:24:03] We should raise taxes [1:24:04] on the rich. [1:24:05] I did that as mayor [1:24:06] in New York City. [1:24:07] I raised taxes. [1:24:08] And if you take a look [1:24:10] at my plans, [1:24:11] the first thing I would do [1:24:12] is try to convince Congress, [1:24:14] because they've got to do it, [1:24:15] we can't just order it, [1:24:16] to roll back the tax cuts [1:24:18] that the Trump administration [1:24:22] put in through Congress. [1:24:26] All right, Vice President Biden, [1:24:28] weigh in on this question [1:24:28] of Americans' feeling [1:24:30] about socialist candidates. [1:24:32] Well, look, let me weigh in on, [1:24:34] you know, for 36 years [1:24:35] and as Vice President, [1:24:36] I was listed as the poorest man [1:24:37] in Congress. [1:24:38] I made money when I wrote a book [1:24:40] about my son, [1:24:41] and it surprised me [1:24:42] how much it sold. [1:24:43] First time I ever made any money. [1:24:45] And here's the deal. [1:24:46] The fact is that [1:24:47] we ought to start rewarding work, [1:24:49] not just wealth. [1:24:51] The idea that we have a tax rate [1:24:53] for corporate America [1:24:54] at 21% is ridiculous. [1:24:56] It should be at 28% [1:24:58] that would raise almost [1:24:59] $800 billion a year. [1:25:00] The idea that we have companies [1:25:03] not paying anything at all, [1:25:04] they should have a minimum tax [1:25:05] of 15%. [1:25:07] That would raise another [1:25:08] $740 billion a year. [1:25:09] The idea that you're able [1:25:11] to have a capital gains tax [1:25:13] that you pay at the rate [1:25:14] of 20% [1:25:16] if you are [1:25:16] Mike Bloomberg [1:25:19] or whomever [1:25:20] has a whole lot of money [1:25:21] and someone else [1:25:22] is paying at, [1:25:23] your staffer is paying [1:25:25] at 25% [1:25:27] is wrong. [1:25:27] That would raise [1:25:28] another $800 billion. [1:25:30] We should be rewarding work, [1:25:32] not just wealth. [1:25:33] And the American people, [1:25:35] the middle class [1:25:35] is getting killed [1:25:36] and the poor [1:25:37] have no way up. [1:25:39] Vice President Biden, [1:25:40] thank you. [1:25:40] Chuck? [1:25:41] Mayor Buttigieg, [1:25:42] I want to get you in on this [1:25:44] because, you know, [1:25:44] in 2000, [1:25:45] you wrote an award-winning essay. [1:25:48] You praised Senator Sanders. [1:25:49] You specifically praised him [1:25:51] for embracing socialism. [1:25:52] You have now since said [1:25:53] that you are concerned [1:25:54] about his policies. [1:25:56] But I am curious about this. [1:25:58] Are you out of touch [1:25:59] with your own generation? [1:26:00] Millennials, [1:26:01] by a big chunk, [1:26:03] embrace his version [1:26:04] of democratic socialism? [1:26:05] You do not. [1:26:06] Are you out of touch [1:26:06] with your generation? [1:26:08] No. [1:26:09] Look, I, [1:26:10] it's true that [1:26:11] I was into Bernie [1:26:12] before it was cool. [1:26:14] He was a congressman [1:26:15] at the time. [1:26:16] And the qualities [1:26:17] I admired then [1:26:18] are qualities [1:26:19] I still respect [1:26:20] a great deal. [1:26:21] I never said [1:26:22] that I agree [1:26:23] with every part [1:26:24] of his policy views [1:26:25] then or now, [1:26:26] but I appreciate [1:26:27] that at least [1:26:28] he's straightforward [1:26:29] and honest about him. [1:26:30] He's honest about [1:26:31] the fact that taxes [1:26:32] will go up [1:26:33] on anybody [1:26:34] making more [1:26:34] than $29,000 [1:26:35] to fund his health [1:26:36] care plan. [1:26:37] Although, again, [1:26:38] a little bit vague [1:26:38] about how the rest [1:26:39] of them... [1:26:39] You're not being honest, [1:26:40] premiums will be eliminated. [1:26:42] But you're still [1:26:43] raising those taxes [1:26:44] and... [1:26:45] But we're saving people [1:26:46] money because they don't [1:26:47] pay any premiums, [1:26:48] out-of-pocket expenses, [1:26:49] co-payments, [1:26:49] or deductibles. [1:26:50] They're going to be [1:26:51] much better off. [1:26:52] But where's the other... [1:26:53] Where's the other [1:26:55] $25 trillion [1:26:57] supposed to come from? [1:26:59] At a certain point, [1:26:59] you've got to do the math. [1:27:01] Well, we got it all [1:27:01] up there on internet. [1:27:02] It's a payroll tax... [1:27:03] A payroll tax... [1:27:04] A payroll tax... [1:27:05] Even after the payroll tax, [1:27:07] you still have a... [1:27:07] Because we have a wealth tax. [1:27:09] Elizabeth has a good one. [1:27:11] Ours is a little bit tougher [1:27:12] on Mr. Bloomert than hers. [1:27:14] We're going to raise it [1:27:15] in a progressive way [1:27:16] which deals with income [1:27:17] and wealth inequality [1:27:18] and make certain, finally, [1:27:20] that health care in this [1:27:21] country is a human right, [1:27:23] not a privilege. [1:27:23] 45 seconds. [1:27:25] Senator Warren, [1:27:25] I'm just going to close it out here. [1:27:27] You went out of your way. [1:27:28] You went out of your way [1:27:29] to call yourself a capitalist, [1:27:31] to separate yourself from him. [1:27:33] Why? [1:27:33] Yes, because I am. [1:27:34] Look, Democrats want [1:27:37] to beat Donald Trump, [1:27:39] but they are worried. [1:27:41] They are worried [1:27:41] about gambling [1:27:42] on a narrow vision [1:27:44] that doesn't address [1:27:46] the fears [1:27:47] of millions of Americans [1:27:49] across this country [1:27:50] who see real problems [1:27:51] and want real change. [1:27:53] They are worried [1:27:54] about gambling [1:27:55] on a revolution [1:27:56] that won't bring along [1:27:57] a majority of this country. [1:27:59] Amy and Joe's hearts [1:28:02] are in the right place, [1:28:04] but we can't be so eager [1:28:06] to be liked by Mitch McConnell [1:28:08] that we forget [1:28:09] how to fight the Republicans. [1:28:13] Mayor Buttigieg [1:28:13] has been taking money [1:28:15] from big donors [1:28:16] and changing his positions. [1:28:18] So it makes it unclear [1:28:20] what it is he stands for [1:28:23] other than his own... [1:28:24] Senator, thank you. [1:28:24] Senator Klobuchar, [1:28:25] go ahead. [1:28:26] You've got it. [1:28:27] Senator Klobuchar, [1:28:27] you've got it. [1:28:29] You've got the floor [1:28:30] for 45. [1:28:31] Thank you. [1:28:31] Go. [1:28:32] Number one, [1:28:33] I have repeatedly said [1:28:34] that we have to win big, [1:28:36] and the way we win big [1:28:38] is winning states [1:28:39] like Nevada [1:28:39] but also winning [1:28:41] the Senate races [1:28:42] in Arizona [1:28:43] and in Colorado [1:28:44] and beyond. [1:28:45] And the reason [1:28:46] we want to do that [1:28:47] is to send [1:28:48] Mitch McConnell packing. [1:28:50] And I think [1:28:52] when you look [1:28:53] at my history [1:28:53] I am the one [1:28:54] that has done that. [1:28:56] I am the one [1:28:56] that can lead this ticket. [1:28:58] And just because [1:28:58] I am willing [1:28:59] to talk about [1:29:01] common ground [1:29:02] that's where America is. [1:29:04] It is not with [1:29:04] Mitch McConnell [1:29:05] who has 400 bills [1:29:06] on his desk [1:29:07] that should pass [1:29:08] if we get rid of him. [1:29:10] It is because [1:29:11] I am willing [1:29:12] to work with people [1:29:13] and find common ground [1:29:15] and that's what we want [1:29:16] in a President Elizabeth. [1:29:18] We don't want someone [1:29:19] that looks [1:29:20] at just plans. [1:29:21] Senator, thank you. [1:29:22] We need to take [1:29:22] another break here. [1:29:23] We'll return to [1:29:24] the Paris Las Vegas [1:29:25] in just a moment. [1:29:55] Presidential debate [1:29:56] to kick off [1:29:56] our next round [1:29:57] of questioning. [1:29:57] Here's Hallie. [1:29:58] Mayor Buttigieg, [1:29:59] to you. [1:29:59] In 2018, [1:30:00] Mayor Bloomberg [1:30:01] was the biggest [1:30:01] outside spender [1:30:02] helping Democrats [1:30:04] running for Congress. [1:30:05] He's also donated [1:30:06] billions towards [1:30:07] causes like climate change, [1:30:08] gun safety, education. [1:30:10] If his money [1:30:10] wasn't a problem then, [1:30:11] why is it a problem now? [1:30:13] Oh, I think he should [1:30:14] absolutely be doing [1:30:16] everything in his power [1:30:17] to defeat Donald Trump. [1:30:18] I just don't think [1:30:19] that has to result [1:30:20] in him becoming [1:30:21] the President [1:30:21] of the United States. [1:30:22] Look, our party [1:30:24] has values. [1:30:25] We were built [1:30:25] around values [1:30:26] like making sure [1:30:27] we protect working people. [1:30:29] But Mayor Bloomberg [1:30:30] opposed raising [1:30:31] the minimum wage. [1:30:32] Our party has a tradition [1:30:34] that includes [1:30:35] excellent presidents [1:30:36] like Barack Obama [1:30:37] who Mayor Bloomberg [1:30:38] opposed. [1:30:39] At the end of the day, [1:30:40] it's not just [1:30:41] about how much money [1:30:42] you've got. [1:30:43] It's what you stand for. [1:30:45] And we are living [1:30:47] at a moment [1:30:47] when Americans [1:30:48] are so deeply frustrated [1:30:51] with the way [1:30:52] that both Wall Street [1:30:53] and Washington [1:30:54] seem to have [1:30:55] overlooked our lives. [1:30:56] The view from [1:30:57] the porch of my [1:30:58] one house [1:30:59] in Indiana [1:31:00] is that they can't [1:31:03] even see us sometimes. [1:31:05] And if we're going [1:31:06] into the election [1:31:07] of our lives [1:31:08] against a president [1:31:10] who rose to power [1:31:11] by cynically exploiting [1:31:13] the frustration [1:31:15] of ordinary Americans [1:31:16] feeling like leaders [1:31:18] weren't speaking [1:31:18] to them, [1:31:19] then I think [1:31:20] that turning [1:31:21] to someone [1:31:22] like Mayor Bloomberg [1:31:23] who thinks [1:31:23] he can buy [1:31:24] this election [1:31:25] is no better [1:31:27] a way to succeed [1:31:27] than turning [1:31:28] to somebody [1:31:29] like Senator Sanders [1:31:30] who wants [1:31:30] to burn the house down. [1:31:31] Mr. Vice President. [1:31:32] You know, [1:31:33] if you're excuse [1:31:33] this is a point [1:31:34] of personal privilege [1:31:35] used to say [1:31:35] it was said [1:31:36] that I was [1:31:36] in the pocket [1:31:37] of Mitch McConnell. [1:31:38] I'm the only person [1:31:39] on this stage [1:31:40] that's beaten [1:31:40] Mitch McConnell [1:31:41] on four major, [1:31:43] major occasions. [1:31:43] Let me finish. [1:31:45] Let me finish. [1:31:47] And Mitch McConnell, [1:31:48] I've been the object [1:31:49] of his affection [1:31:49] and the president's affection [1:31:50] the way he's gone [1:31:52] after me [1:31:52] this new Republican Party [1:31:53] after me, [1:31:54] after my son, [1:31:55] after my family. [1:31:56] I don't need [1:31:57] to be told [1:31:58] I'm a friend [1:31:58] of Mitch McConnell's. [1:32:00] Mitch McConnell [1:32:00] has been [1:32:01] the biggest pain [1:32:01] in my neck [1:32:02] in a long, long time. [1:32:04] And so that's number one. [1:32:05] Number two, [1:32:06] we have to have somebody [1:32:07] who understands [1:32:08] what it's like [1:32:09] for ordinary people. [1:32:10] Ordinary people come up. [1:32:11] They have to understand [1:32:12] like my dad [1:32:13] made that longest walk [1:32:15] up a short foot of stairs [1:32:16] and said [1:32:16] I don't have a job, honey. [1:32:17] We have to move. [1:32:18] You got to move with Grandpa. [1:32:19] How long it took [1:32:20] to buy a house? [1:32:21] How long it took [1:32:21] to get back in the game again? [1:32:23] They have to understand [1:32:24] the needs [1:32:25] of ordinary people [1:32:26] and they are getting killed [1:32:28] no matter what people [1:32:29] say about this. [1:32:30] this economy [1:32:31] how good it is. [1:32:32] And the good part [1:32:33] of the economy [1:32:34] this is only 60 seconds [1:32:35] not up yet. [1:32:36] And the fact is [1:32:37] that we are in a situation [1:32:38] where you have mayor [1:32:40] the excuse me [1:32:42] the president [1:32:42] making clear [1:32:44] that he doesn't want [1:32:45] any part of me [1:32:46] being his opponent. [1:32:48] He's spending [1:32:48] $125,000 this week [1:32:51] to keep me [1:32:52] from being an opponent. [1:32:53] I wonder why. [1:32:54] Thank you, Mr. Vice President. [1:32:55] Vanessa, to you. [1:32:55] Can I respond [1:32:56] to the vice president's comments [1:32:57] please? [1:32:58] He was identifying me [1:32:59] specifically in this. [1:33:00] 45 seconds to you. [1:33:01] You have to respond [1:33:01] to an accusation. [1:33:03] So, no, the point [1:33:04] is different. [1:33:05] Here's what happened. [1:33:06] According to the [1:33:07] New York Times [1:33:08] the last time [1:33:09] that Mitch McConnell [1:33:09] was on the ballot [1:33:10] the vice president [1:33:12] stood in the Oval Office [1:33:13] and said [1:33:14] I hope that Mitch [1:33:16] gets reelected [1:33:17] so I can keep [1:33:18] working with him. [1:33:19] Well, Mitch did get [1:33:21] reelected. [1:33:21] He did not have an epiphany. [1:33:26] Instead, he blocked [1:33:27] nearly everything [1:33:28] that Barack Obama [1:33:29] tried to pass [1:33:30] and he stole [1:33:32] a Supreme Court seat [1:33:34] from the Democrats. [1:33:36] The Consumer Financial [1:33:38] Protection Bureau. [1:33:39] Thank you, Senator. [1:33:40] Yeah. [1:33:41] Thank you, Senator. [1:33:43] Our next question [1:33:43] goes to Senator Klobuchar. [1:33:45] About 700,000 young people [1:33:49] known as dreamers [1:33:50] or soñadores [1:33:51] who were brought [1:33:52] to this country [1:33:53] as children [1:33:53] are currently protected [1:33:55] from deportation [1:33:56] because of a program [1:33:57] that is now [1:33:57] under the review [1:33:59] by the Supreme Court. [1:34:00] If the court [1:34:01] sides with [1:34:02] the Trump administration [1:34:03] which is eager [1:34:04] to end this protection, [1:34:06] what exactly [1:34:07] is your plan [1:34:07] to protect [1:34:08] the dreamers [1:34:09] permanently? [1:34:10] To win, [1:34:12] to beat Donald Trump, [1:34:14] the best way [1:34:15] to protect the dreamers [1:34:16] is to have [1:34:17] a new president. [1:34:18] There are the votes [1:34:19] there to protect [1:34:20] the dreamers [1:34:21] and I have been [1:34:22] working on this [1:34:23] since I got [1:34:24] to the United States Senate. [1:34:26] In my first campaign, [1:34:27] I actually had [1:34:28] a bunch of ads [1:34:29] run against me [1:34:29] because I was standing [1:34:30] up for immigrants [1:34:31] and when I think [1:34:32] of dreamers [1:34:33] and I try to explain [1:34:34] it to my state, [1:34:35] I found a 99-year-old [1:34:37] Hispanic war veteran [1:34:38] who was a dreamer [1:34:41] when he was brought [1:34:42] over to this country [1:34:43] and back then [1:34:44] he just went to Canada [1:34:45] for a night [1:34:46] and came back [1:34:47] and he was [1:34:47] a permanent citizen [1:34:48] because they needed him [1:34:50] to serve in World War II. [1:34:51] Now, not so easy. [1:34:53] The dreamers [1:34:54] are our future. [1:34:55] The dreamers [1:34:56] are so important [1:34:56] in Nevada [1:34:57] and the best way [1:34:58] we can get this done [1:34:59] is to beat Donald Trump [1:35:01] but it is to pass [1:35:02] comprehensive immigration reform [1:35:05] which creates a path [1:35:06] to citizenship [1:35:07] to so many hardworking people [1:35:09] will bring down [1:35:11] the deficit [1:35:11] by $158 billion [1:35:12] and will bring peace [1:35:15] for these dreamers. [1:35:16] Thank you so much. [1:35:17] No other country [1:35:17] but our own. [1:35:18] Thank you. [1:35:19] If you're going to run [1:35:20] based on your record [1:35:22] of voting in Washington, [1:35:24] then you have to own [1:35:25] those votes, [1:35:25] especially when it comes [1:35:26] to immigration. [1:35:27] You voted to confirm [1:35:29] the head of Customs [1:35:30] and Border Protection [1:35:31] under Trump [1:35:32] who was one of the architects [1:35:33] of the family separation policy. [1:35:35] You voted to make English [1:35:37] the national language. [1:35:38] Do you know the message [1:35:39] that sends [1:35:40] in as multilingual a state [1:35:42] as Nevada [1:35:43] to immigrants? [1:35:44] You have been unusual [1:35:45] among Democrats, [1:35:46] I think the Democrat [1:35:47] among all of the senators [1:35:49] running for president, [1:35:50] most likely [1:35:50] to vote for Donald Trump's judges [1:35:53] who we know [1:35:53] are especially hostile [1:35:55] to dreamers [1:35:56] and to the rights [1:35:57] of immigrants. [1:35:58] Now, in South Bend, [1:35:59] it was not always easy [1:36:00] to stand up [1:36:01] in a conservative place [1:36:02] like Indiana [1:36:02] on immigration, [1:36:04] but we delivered. [1:36:05] We created [1:36:05] a municipal ID program [1:36:07] so that dreamers [1:36:08] and others [1:36:08] who were undocumented [1:36:09] were able to navigate [1:36:10] everyday life. [1:36:12] We stood up [1:36:12] for those rights [1:36:13] and stood with members [1:36:14] of our community [1:36:15] with the message [1:36:15] that they were [1:36:16] as American as we are. [1:36:18] A los sonadores [1:36:19] hay que decir [1:36:19] que este país [1:36:20] es tu país también. [1:36:21] Gracias. [1:36:22] Everyone was as perfect. [1:36:23] Senator Salvasar. [1:36:24] I wish everyone [1:36:25] was as perfect as you, Pete, [1:36:27] but let me tell you [1:36:28] what it's like [1:36:29] to be in the arena. [1:36:31] And number one, [1:36:32] do the math. [1:36:32] If my friend [1:36:33] Andrew Yang [1:36:34] was up here, [1:36:34] that's what he'd say. [1:36:36] In fact, [1:36:36] I have opposed [1:36:38] and not supported [1:36:39] two-thirds [1:36:40] of the Trump judges, [1:36:41] so get your numbers right. [1:36:43] And I am in the top [1:36:44] 10 to 15 [1:36:45] of opposing them. [1:36:47] Number two, [1:36:47] when it comes [1:36:48] to immigration reform, [1:36:50] the things [1:36:51] that you are referring to, [1:36:52] that official [1:36:53] that you are referring to [1:36:54] was supported [1:36:55] by about half [1:36:56] the Democrats, [1:36:57] including someone [1:36:58] in this room. [1:36:59] And I will say this, [1:37:01] he was highly recommended [1:37:02] by the Obama officials. [1:37:04] Do you know why? [1:37:04] Because Trump [1:37:05] had so few career people. [1:37:08] I did not one bit [1:37:09] agree with these [1:37:10] draconian policies [1:37:11] to separate kids [1:37:12] from their parents. [1:37:14] And in my first 100 days, [1:37:15] I would immediately [1:37:16] change that. [1:37:18] And I would add [1:37:19] one more thing. [1:37:20] I have been in the arena. [1:37:20] Thank you, Senator. [1:37:21] Ted Kennedy, [1:37:22] he had made [1:37:23] a pretty big allegation [1:37:24] against me again, [1:37:25] and I think I should [1:37:26] have a right to respond. [1:37:27] I'm stating the facts [1:37:28] because these are votes [1:37:29] that you took. [1:37:29] Ted Kennedy... [1:37:30] And those votes [1:37:31] set you alone [1:37:32] among the Democrats [1:37:33] running for president. [1:37:34] No other... [1:37:35] Is it true or is it false [1:37:36] that no other Democrat [1:37:37] from the Senate [1:37:38] running for president [1:37:39] voted that way? [1:37:39] The judges are false. [1:37:41] You are comparing me [1:37:42] to two colleagues [1:37:43] up here on this stage, [1:37:44] and you are forgetting [1:37:45] one thing... [1:37:45] I would say anybody [1:37:46] who ran for president [1:37:46] this cycle, [1:37:47] Senator Harris, [1:37:48] Senator Booker, [1:37:48] saw through this. [1:37:49] If you could let me finish [1:37:49] since I've been in the arena, [1:37:51] Ted Kennedy asked me [1:37:52] to work on the first [1:37:53] immigration bill. [1:37:54] We were able, [1:37:55] with President Bush, [1:37:56] to at least get that bill [1:37:58] to a vote. [1:37:59] I'm sorry, [1:38:00] but Senator Sanders [1:38:01] actually opposed that bill, [1:38:02] and I worked on it, [1:38:03] and if we had gotten [1:38:04] that bill done, [1:38:05] there would have been [1:38:06] a path to citizenship [1:38:07] for so many people. [1:38:08] Then I worked on [1:38:09] the 2013 bill. [1:38:10] I'm actually so proud [1:38:11] of the work I've done [1:38:13] on immigration reform, [1:38:14] and you know what? [1:38:15] You have not been [1:38:16] in the arena doing that work. [1:38:18] You've memorized [1:38:18] a bunch of talking points [1:38:20] and a bunch of things, [1:38:21] but I can tell you [1:38:22] one thing. [1:38:23] With the people [1:38:24] of this country want, [1:38:26] they want a leader [1:38:26] that has the heart [1:38:27] for the immigrants [1:38:28] of this country, [1:38:29] and that is me. [1:38:30] You know, maybe leading [1:38:31] a diverse city [1:38:32] that was facing ruin [1:38:34] doesn't sound like [1:38:35] the arena to you. [1:38:37] I'm used to senators [1:38:38] telling mayors [1:38:39] that senators are [1:38:40] more important than mayors, [1:38:41] but this is the arena, too. [1:38:43] You don't have to be [1:38:44] in Washington to matter. [1:38:46] You don't have to be [1:38:47] on Capitol Hill [1:38:47] for your world to be significant. [1:38:49] Guys, guys, [1:38:50] we are at the end here. [1:38:52] We are at the end here. [1:38:53] I've got to let that one go. [1:38:55] We are less than [1:38:57] two weeks away [1:38:57] from a national primary, [1:39:00] and I want to ask [1:39:00] all of you [1:39:01] this simple question. [1:39:02] There's a very good chance [1:39:03] none of you [1:39:03] are going to have [1:39:04] enough delegates [1:39:04] to the Democratic [1:39:06] National Convention [1:39:06] to clinch this nomination. [1:39:08] Okay? [1:39:09] If that happens, [1:39:10] I want all of your [1:39:11] opinions on this. [1:39:11] Should the person [1:39:12] with the most delegates [1:39:14] at the end [1:39:14] of this primary season [1:39:16] be the nominee, [1:39:17] even if they are short [1:39:19] of a majority? [1:39:20] Senator Sanders, [1:39:20] I'm going to let you go [1:39:21] last here [1:39:21] because I know [1:39:22] your view on this. [1:39:24] So, instead, [1:39:25] I will start with you, [1:39:26] Mayor Bloomberg. [1:39:27] Whatever the rules [1:39:28] of the Democratic Party are, [1:39:30] they should be followed, [1:39:31] and if they have a process, [1:39:33] which I believe we do, [1:39:34] so that everybody else, [1:39:35] everybody can... [1:39:36] So you want the convention [1:39:37] to work its will? [1:39:38] Yes. [1:39:39] Senator Warren. [1:39:40] But a convention [1:39:41] working its will [1:39:42] means that people [1:39:42] have the delegates [1:39:43] that are pledged to them, [1:39:44] and they keep those delegates [1:39:45] until you come to the convention. [1:39:48] All of the people. [1:39:50] All righty. [1:39:50] Vice President Biden? [1:39:51] Play by the rules. [1:39:52] Yes or no? [1:39:52] Leading person with the delegates, [1:39:54] should they be the nominee or not? [1:39:55] No, let the process [1:39:56] work its way out. [1:39:57] Mayor Buttigieg? [1:39:57] Not necessarily. [1:39:58] Senator Klobuchar? [1:40:00] Let the process work. [1:40:01] Senator Sanders? [1:40:02] Well, the process includes [1:40:04] 500 superdelegates [1:40:05] on the second ballot. [1:40:07] So I think that the will [1:40:08] of the people [1:40:09] should prevail, yes. [1:40:11] Thank you, guys. [1:40:11] Most votes [1:40:12] should become the nominee. [1:40:13] Five nows and a yes. [1:40:14] We are not done yet. [1:40:16] We're back with more [1:40:16] from Las Vegas [1:40:17] after a short break. [1:40:18] Just timing statements. [1:40:39] Each candidate [1:40:40] will have one minute, [1:40:41] and we begin [1:40:41] with Senator Klobuchar. [1:40:43] This has been [1:40:44] quite a debate. [1:40:45] And what I want [1:40:46] everyone out there [1:40:47] watching to remember [1:40:49] is that what unites us [1:40:51] is so much bigger [1:40:52] than what divides us. [1:40:54] And that we need [1:40:55] a candidate [1:40:56] that can bring people [1:40:58] with her. [1:40:59] Yes, a fired-up [1:41:00] Democratic base, [1:41:00] but also independents [1:41:02] and moderate Republicans. [1:41:04] And I've done that [1:41:05] every single time. [1:41:06] I have won every race [1:41:07] down to fourth grade. [1:41:08] A lot of boasting up here, [1:41:10] so I thought I'd add that. [1:41:11] Secondly, you need someone [1:41:13] who can govern. [1:41:14] And I have passed [1:41:15] over 100 bills [1:41:16] as the lead Democrat. [1:41:17] And third, you need someone [1:41:19] that has the heart [1:41:20] to be the president. [1:41:22] They were talking a lot [1:41:23] about heart conditions up here. [1:41:24] We have a president right now [1:41:26] that doesn't have a heart. [1:41:28] I love the people [1:41:30] of this country. [1:41:32] And I ask for the vote [1:41:34] of the people of Nevada [1:41:36] because this state gets it. [1:41:39] They get that maybe [1:41:40] you don't agree [1:41:40] with every single thing [1:41:42] that's said [1:41:42] on this debate stage. [1:41:44] But we understand [1:41:45] that the heart of America [1:41:46] is bigger than any heart [1:41:49] that God has in the White House. [1:41:50] Senator Klobuchar, thank you. [1:41:51] I ask you to join me [1:41:52] at amyklobuchar.com. [1:41:54] Senator, thank you. [1:41:54] Mayor Bloomberg, to you. [1:41:57] Well, you can join me [1:41:58] at amyklobuchar.com, too, [1:42:00] if you want. [1:42:00] But I'm not asking for any money. [1:42:03] Look, this is a management job. [1:42:07] And Donald Trump's not a manager. [1:42:09] This is a job [1:42:10] where you have to build teams. [1:42:12] He doesn't have a team, [1:42:13] so he goes and makes decisions [1:42:14] without knowing what's going on [1:42:15] or the implications of what he does. [1:42:17] We cannot run the railroad this way. [1:42:20] This country has to pull together [1:42:21] and understand that the people [1:42:23] that we elect, [1:42:24] and it's not just [1:42:25] the president of the United States, [1:42:26] they should have experience. [1:42:28] They should have credentials. [1:42:30] They should understand [1:42:31] what they're doing [1:42:31] and the implications thereof. [1:42:33] And then we should, [1:42:34] as a society, [1:42:35] try to hold them accountable [1:42:37] so the next time [1:42:38] they go before the voters, [1:42:40] if they haven't done the job, [1:42:42] we shouldn't just say, [1:42:43] oh, nice person, [1:42:44] gives a good speech. [1:42:45] We should say, [1:42:46] didn't do the job [1:42:47] and you're out of here. [1:42:48] Mr. Mayor, thank you. [1:42:50] Mayor Buttigieg, one minute. [1:42:51] From Nevada, [1:42:52] I'm asking for your vote [1:42:54] because America is running out of time [1:42:56] and this is our only chance [1:42:59] to defeat Donald Trump. [1:43:01] If you look at the choice [1:43:03] between a revolution [1:43:04] or the status quo [1:43:05] and you don't see [1:43:06] where you fit in that picture, [1:43:08] then join us. [1:43:09] And yes, [1:43:10] go to PeteForAmerica.com [1:43:11] and help out [1:43:12] because we need to draw [1:43:14] everybody that we can [1:43:15] who believes [1:43:17] that we need to empower workers, [1:43:18] who believes in climate science, [1:43:20] who believes in doing something [1:43:21] about gun violence [1:43:22] and recognizes [1:43:23] that the only way [1:43:25] we can do this [1:43:26] is to create [1:43:27] a sense of belonging [1:43:28] in this country [1:43:29] that moves us [1:43:30] out of the toxic [1:43:31] and polarized moment [1:43:33] that we are living in today. [1:43:35] I already see [1:43:36] an American majority [1:43:37] ready to do these things. [1:43:39] Now, [1:43:39] we have a responsibility [1:43:40] to galvanize, [1:43:42] not polarize, [1:43:43] that majority. [1:43:44] We cannot afford [1:43:45] to lean on the same [1:43:47] Washington playbook. [1:43:49] We cannot afford [1:43:49] to alienate [1:43:51] half the country. [1:43:52] We must step forward [1:43:54] into the future [1:43:54] in order to win [1:43:55] and in order to govern [1:43:57] a country [1:43:57] that will be facing issues [1:43:59] the likes of which [1:44:00] we'd barely thought of [1:44:01] just a few years ago. [1:44:03] I'm asking you to join me [1:44:04] so that we can deliver [1:44:05] that future together. [1:44:13] Fighting. [1:44:13] I grew up out in Oklahoma [1:44:15] and I learned it probably [1:44:16] from my mother. [1:44:18] I watched when my daddy [1:44:19] had a heart attack [1:44:20] and didn't have any money [1:44:21] coming in, [1:44:22] when our car was lost [1:44:23] and when we were on the edge [1:44:24] of losing our home. [1:44:26] I watched my mother fight [1:44:27] to save our family. [1:44:29] And I grew up [1:44:30] fighting to save [1:44:31] our family, [1:44:32] my family. [1:44:33] I eventually made it [1:44:34] through school [1:44:35] and spent my life [1:44:36] as a teacher [1:44:37] and looking into [1:44:38] why it is [1:44:39] that so many families [1:44:41] across this country [1:44:42] are struggling [1:44:43] and why it gets worse [1:44:44] year after year after year. [1:44:46] I, for years, [1:44:47] have fought for unions [1:44:49] to say the way [1:44:50] we're going to restructure [1:44:51] this economy [1:44:51] is we're going to make it easier [1:44:53] to join a union [1:44:54] and get more power [1:44:55] into unions. [1:44:57] To fight for students [1:44:58] who have been cut out [1:45:00] of opportunity [1:45:01] over and over [1:45:02] because of the rising cost [1:45:04] of an education. [1:45:05] Look, for me, [1:45:07] I am, [1:45:07] of all the people [1:45:08] on this stage, [1:45:09] I've been a politician [1:45:10] the shortest time. [1:45:11] But I've been the one [1:45:12] out fighting for families [1:45:14] the longest time. [1:45:16] I promise you this, [1:45:17] give me a chance, [1:45:18] I'll go to the White House [1:45:19] and I'll fight [1:45:20] for your family. [1:45:22] Thank you, Senator. [1:45:23] Vice President Biden. [1:45:25] I'm running [1:45:28] because so many people... [1:45:29] Please give us a moment, [1:45:43] we'll clear the room [1:45:44] and let Senator Biden [1:45:57] have one minute. [1:45:58] Look, I'm running [1:45:59] because so many people [1:46:00] are being left behind. [1:46:02] People I grew up with [1:46:03] in Scranton, [1:46:03] when my dad lost his job, [1:46:05] lost his house, [1:46:06] had to move. [1:46:07] We moved to Claymont. [1:46:08] We found ourselves [1:46:09] in a position [1:46:09] where we had little ability [1:46:11] to get anything done. [1:46:12] And my dad worked like hell. [1:46:14] I learned a lot. [1:46:14] I've been knocked down [1:46:15] a whole hell of a lot. [1:46:16] I know what it's like [1:46:17] to be knocked down. [1:46:18] But I know you have [1:46:19] to get back up. [1:46:19] We have to provide [1:46:20] some safety and security [1:46:21] for the American people. [1:46:22] Right here in Nevada, [1:46:24] the site of the most [1:46:25] significant mass murder [1:46:27] in American history, [1:46:28] guns. [1:46:29] Our kids are getting sent [1:46:30] to school, [1:46:31] having to hide under desks, [1:46:32] learn how to run down [1:46:33] corridors to avoid being shot. [1:46:35] It's immoral. [1:46:36] I'm the only one [1:46:37] that's beaten the NRA nationally, [1:46:38] and I beat them twice. [1:46:40] With regard to health care, [1:46:42] it also is something [1:46:43] that is a right. [1:46:44] Obamacare has to be expanded. [1:46:46] It can be, in fact, [1:46:47] cover everybody. [1:46:48] And lastly, [1:46:48] I think it's important [1:46:50] that on day one, [1:46:51] day one, [1:46:52] we deal with sending [1:46:53] an immigration bill [1:46:54] to the desk. [1:46:54] The only person in here [1:46:56] has the worst record [1:46:57] on immigration is Bernie, [1:46:58] because Bernie voted [1:46:59] against the 2007 bill. [1:47:01] Thank you. [1:47:02] The fact that immigration bill [1:47:03] passed, [1:47:03] there would be 10, [1:47:05] 6 million members [1:47:06] would be now [1:47:07] American citizens. [1:47:08] All right. [1:47:09] Senator Sanders, [1:47:10] you have one minute [1:47:10] for your closing remarks. [1:47:11] Unfortunately, [1:47:13] RULAC, [1:47:14] among other groups, [1:47:16] Latino groups, [1:47:17] saw that bill [1:47:18] having provisions [1:47:19] akin to slavery, Joe. [1:47:21] But the bottom line is [1:47:22] all of us are united [1:47:24] in defeating [1:47:25] the most dangerous [1:47:26] president [1:47:26] in the modern history [1:47:28] of this country. [1:47:29] That we agree on. [1:47:30] But where we don't agree, [1:47:32] I think, [1:47:32] is why we are today [1:47:34] the only major country [1:47:36] on earth, [1:47:36] not to guarantee [1:47:37] health care [1:47:38] to all people. [1:47:39] Why three people [1:47:40] own more wealth [1:47:41] than the bottom half [1:47:42] of America [1:47:43] when 500,000 people [1:47:44] sleep out on the street. [1:47:46] Why hundreds of thousands [1:47:48] of bright young kids [1:47:49] can't afford [1:47:50] to go to college [1:47:50] and 45 million [1:47:52] remain in student debt. [1:47:55] Bottom line here, [1:47:57] real change [1:47:57] never takes place [1:47:59] from the top on down, [1:48:01] never takes place [1:48:02] from an oligarchy [1:48:03] controlled by billionaires. [1:48:05] We need to mobilize [1:48:06] millions of people [1:48:08] to stand up for justice. [1:48:10] That's our campaign. [1:48:11] Join us [1:48:12] at BernieSanders.com. [1:48:14] Thank you. [1:48:14] Senator, thank you. [1:48:16] Folks, thank you. [1:48:18] That concludes [1:48:19] tonight's debate. [1:48:21] Our thanks [1:48:21] to my fellow moderators, [1:48:22] to the candidates, [1:48:23] and of course [1:48:23] to all of you, [1:48:24] the audience, [1:48:25] here and at home. [1:48:26] The Nevada caucuses [1:48:27] are this Saturday [1:48:28] with the South Carolina [1:48:29] primary just one week later. [1:48:31] Then the big prize, [1:48:32] Super Tuesday [1:48:33] on March 3rd. [1:48:34] We'll be following [1:48:34] it all for you. [1:48:35] For now, [1:48:36] for all of us [1:48:36] at NBC News, [1:48:37] I'm Lester Holt. [1:48:38] Good day. [1:48:38] Thank you.