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"Whatever it may be, the DMK was not revolving around one star, so it was easier to get access to M. Karnaradi, you can go put the mic on. This is going to be fascinating for journalists now to look at five years of Vijay in power. I want to see, because you remember during Jalanatha's time, she..."
[0:00] Whatever it may be, the DMK was not revolving around one star, so it was easier to get access to M. Karnaradi, you can go put the mic on.
[0:07] This is going to be fascinating for journalists now to look at five years of Vijay in power.
[0:12] I want to see, because you remember during Jalanatha's time, she would come out of the secretary and you'd stand in the crowd and say,
[0:17] Madam, Madam, Madam, if she decides to come and talk, she'd come and talk.
[0:21] Otherwise, no, there was no this one there and choose an interview.
[0:24] So it'll be very interesting, Vijay, you know, how it's going to be for journalists and people out there
[0:28] in terms of when he's going to get into the secretary.
[0:31] And I'm really thinking of bureaucrats and IPS officers.
[0:35] Let's not forget the state six decades has only lived between these two parties.
[0:39] So they knew who was going to come to power.
[0:40] So it's going to be fascinating.
[0:42] Since we have his family on screen right now, the fact that we've spoken a number of factors because of which Vijay got the sympathy of people.
[0:49] One issue, perhaps also the kind of scrutiny that his personal life was put under.
[0:53] Remember a couple of, you know, unsavory statements that were made about his personal life.
[0:59] A case, a court case that suddenly appeared in the headlines.
[1:02] But he was pretty upfront about it.
[1:04] He was unapologetic.
[1:06] Padma, he was not spared anything.
[1:08] After the Karoor tragedy, he was taken on by the DMK severely.
[1:13] And if anything, people think of you as an underdog.
[1:15] And when you drag in a personal angle, then the janta just thinks that this is underhand.
[1:20] It's not just about that, right?
[1:22] Tell me.
[1:23] No, no.
[1:23] I don't think there was a sympathy wave.
[1:25] I think there's an age wave.
[1:26] His popularity and anti-incumbency is what is there.
[1:29] But, you know, in a state like Tamil Nadu, you do not, you know, he was seen as victimized and targeted.
[1:35] Every person we spoke to.
[1:37] No, no.
[1:38] Every person I spoke to said, sir, rumba torture pan ranga.
[1:41] Rumba torture pan ranga.
[1:42] They were speaking that way.
[1:43] Yeah, what's interesting also is that this means that he's like, in a bit like Trump and Modi,
[1:48] he's an outsider to the elite town and he's bringing his own networks.
[1:53] You said about, you know, bureaucrats, everyone's going to have a bit of a shake up
[1:57] and it's going to be a new way of working from day one.
[2:00] I know.
[2:00] And that's going to change things up.
[2:02] I just hope it's a sort of a smooth way because this is a reasonably better administered state.
[2:08] Absolutely.
[2:09] It's sort of, I don't know what it means in terms of such a tectonic change,
[2:12] you know, when somebody who has never been in power, never been, had the experience in politics,
[2:18] as the CIA, you have your strategists and politicians.
[2:21] One is to win an election.
[2:22] The other is to run a government.
[2:24] Live, lene, two minutes.
[2:25] May I say something on Tamil Nadu?
[2:28] Just one line.
[2:29] Just an observation.
[2:30] You know, I think there was a vacuum in Tamil Nadu.
[2:34] Between DMK and AI-DMK basically.
[2:38] And since Jailalita is passing away,
[2:41] that vacuum probably has now, now getting filled in
[2:45] because the other one, DMK, had a succession and Stalin took over
[2:50] but in AI-DMK it kind of broke away.
[2:53] So, I think, you know, that's the vacuum and the boredom that came from,
[2:58] I mean, the young people.
[3:00] So, maybe that's the space that Vijay has taken up.
[3:05] You're right.
[3:05] I have one more thought, Rav.
[3:06] I think that in a sense, Vijay has actually broken apart
[3:11] the original Gravidian model of 50 years that has held.
[3:15] Not that those values are going away,
[3:16] but in a sense, the space is opened up more for others.
[3:20] Stay with me, stay with me.
[3:21] I want to go across now, live and exclusive on NDTV
[3:24] to one of the key architects of the Bharatiya Janata Party's victory
[3:28] in the state of West Bengal.
[3:29] The man who was trooped on the ground making this happen.
[3:33] He made Haryana happen.
[3:34] Remember, in Haryana, where everybody thought it's impossible,
[3:37] Darmendra Pradhan said, I will deliver Haryana for the party.
[3:41] He's been one of the key people delivering and working on the ground in West Bengal.
[3:44] He joins us now.
[3:46] Darmendra Ji, very, very swagat.
[3:48] You've been given such a place where BJP was given up,
[3:51] where I first believed that he was given up.
[3:52] He was given up a lot of victory.
[3:53] It's been 100 years old for Bengal people.
[3:58] It's been a long time for Bengal people.
[4:01] I'm the first to call Bengal people.
[4:03] I'm the first to call Bengal people.
[4:06] Bengal people have given up on the Bharatiya Janata Party,
[4:09] the President of the Narendra Modi Ji,
[4:11] has given up all the things he has given up.
[4:13] It's been a long time for Bengal people.
[4:14] It's been a long time for Bengal people.
[4:15] It's been a long time for Bengal people.
[4:16] But it's been a long time for Bengal people.
[4:19] I would like to support the people of Bengal in this country.
[4:24] Sir, in Haryana, you said that you were driving there,
[4:28] and there were more people from Bengal.
[4:32] There was a lot of people in this country,
[4:34] and there was a lot of people in this country.
[4:37] You made this impossible?
[4:39] How do you make this impossible possible?
[4:42] Jenta ne, TMC ki Kushasan ke khilaab mat diya hai
[4:46] Ghuspayetiun ke oopar unki jho vishes peem tha
[4:50] Uske oopar bhojda hai
[4:51] Vuza ki nhojoana ki chakri nehi ta
[4:54] Job nehi tha
[4:55] Uske oopar bhojda hai
[4:56] Vishes kerke bangal ki mohilau ke oopar
[4:59] Ataachar ki eek anginad kathai thhi
[5:02] Shandeskhali ho ea arji karo
[5:04] Jis ahankar se TMC ki neturtu
[5:07] Us ghatnao ko handle kiya tha
[5:10] Zis ghatna se meh shiksharp vivac se jura hou
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[5:35] .
[5:36] .
[5:41] You will say that Jay Jagannath is the first question.
[5:45] Jay Jagannath, Jay Ma Kali, do not say that.
[5:50] What is the one in Bengal?
[5:52] In the Nandigram, you have campaigned a lot.
[5:55] In 2021, you had a great dream.
[5:57] And this time, what do we expect?
[5:59] Is it the credit goes to you for monitoring it completely again in Nandigram this time?
[6:04] No, no, no.
[6:05] You know, the credit is from Bengal.
[6:08] The British Party is from the British Party.
[6:12] What is the message to Chief Minister Mahmouda Banerjee today?
[6:27] It has been a blessing to you.
[6:30] It has been a blessing to them.
[6:32] It has been a blessing to them.
[6:34] It has been a blessing to them.
[6:36] This is my colleague Padmaja Joshi.
[6:38] She wants to ask you.
[6:40] Mahmouda Ji, good afternoon. Many congratulations.
[6:42] Thank you Padmaja.
[6:43] Thank you Padmaja.
[6:44] I have been with you as well.
[6:45] But this was the only thing that you have to do.
[6:46] That was a pledge that a struggle for the Trinamol Congress.
[6:48] You cannot even have to do it.
[6:51] The most of your leads, they have come to Malda Mojitabad area.
[6:58] South 24, Parganas.
[7:00] Ironically, the diamond harbor model that I challenged the Union of India to try and take on the diamond harbor model.
[7:07] from the diamond harbor seat, BJP is leading the seat of Diamond Harbour.
[7:11] What do you think of this whole statement, and how much more specifically,
[7:15] the Muslim dominated areas, BJP is leading the lead?
[7:19] Do you have split vote?
[7:20] .
[7:48] .
[7:50] .
[7:51] We went to the river area, the Hingalgan, and in Kolkata, when we heard RG Corr's name, some of the people who were spontaneously reacted to the reaction.
[8:03] What do we say about the state of the government?
[8:07] This is a state of government.
[8:11] The government of the government, the government of the government, has been supported by the government of the government.
[8:18] This is the government of the government of the government.
[8:22] NDTV's managing editor, Shiv Arur, wants to ask you questions. Shiv.
[8:27] Dharmendra ji, first of all, a big congratulations to you. I am Shiv Arur.
[8:31] I want to add to Padmaja's question on the Mahila vote.
[8:36] Because the Thrinamol had always been extremely confident.
[8:40] They were very dismissive of the BJP's appeal as far as the Mahila vote in Bengal is concerned.
[8:47] How did it happen? How do you explain this vote?
[8:50] Because the Thrinamol has created a huge crisis of confidence in their leadership.
[8:58] The way they reacted during the Arjika incident, during the Sandeshkhal incident, during the Durgaapur incident.
[9:05] In all parts of Bengal, they have atrocity on women. Women were at the receiving end.
[9:12] They thought this is their monopoly. They can do anything. They can get away.
[9:16] But especially women of Bengal, they are very conscious. There is a great history of Bengal's social movement.
[9:23] They have rejected, they have taught a lesson to these autocrat people, Ahamkari people.
[9:29] Yeh Kanchan Gupta, aap se svaal karna jaate. Kanchan da.
[9:32] Dharmendra ji, nahaste.
[9:34] This, the scheduled tribe vote has just been swept by the BJP.
[9:40] What do you attribute it to across the state? It's the same thing.
[9:44] Panchan da, you are a great observer. You are a part of the Bengal political culture.
[9:50] You know everything. Not only tribal, not only, not only Matuas.
[9:58] The segment of Bengal has stood rock solid with Prime Minister Modi's leadership.
[10:04] This is the primary analysis of the thing. Later, all parts of Brazil come out.
[10:08] From hill to Ganga Sagar. Darjeeling ki choti se leekhe Ganga Sagar tuk sabhi ilaqa me.
[10:15] Odisha ki sima se leekhe Vashrihaat tuk sabhi ilaqa me.
[10:19] Malda, Musil, Mursidabad tuk sabhi ilaqa me.
[10:22] Bengal ki janatah ne.
[10:23] Decisive mandate dya tha.
[10:25] Mandate spirit me.
[10:26] Kanchan da, aap itiyas ki vidyaraty ho.
[10:28] Eks 1905 mein bhanga bhanga ke baar.
[10:32] Bengal ki janatah ki man mein ek akros ta.
[10:35] Bengal ki janatah, ek bade vishya pe bhandha hua tha.
[10:39] Main, Poroshi Rajje se honne ke nathe.
[10:42] Bengal ki samaj ke ek observer ke nathe.
[10:44] Mere man mein santhusthi hai.
[10:46] Samah Prasad Mukarji ji ji ki vision.
[10:48] Jis mudde ko leke Bengal lambay samme tak emosional jura wa tha.
[10:52] Isbhar chunau mein, us vishya ke liye unhohne merpazan diya hai.
[10:55] Shankar Iyer has a question for you.
[10:57] Dabarindra ji, namaskar, congratulations.
[11:00] Namaskar, Shankar ji.
[11:01] Aap, aap, bhagal ke raja se hai,
[11:04] Aar us bhagal ke raja me bhi aise uthal puthal aap ne kira ya tha.
[11:08] Twenty twenty four me.
[11:10] To, us me or us me kya common hai?
[11:13] Anti establishment dhono jaga pe ta,
[11:17] Lekin bhanggal me, atyachar, ahasman chuchu ki thi.
[11:21] Ahankar, ahasman chuchu ki thi.
[11:24] Brashtachar, charam pe tha.
[11:26] Or bhanggal ki janatah ko,
[11:28] Dabarindra ji, harar, ratanag dhikha ke.
[11:31] Tumul ki log lambe sa meh tak,
[11:33] Aatiyar karne ka eek saphal parmula bana liye te.
[11:36] Usi ko prajaya tundra ki naam dhe rhe te.
[11:38] Yeh is prakara ki nati jah,
[11:42] Bhanggal ki chunau ki nati jah ko,
[11:44] Desk anis sabi ilaqa hoon se alag maantah ho.
[11:46] Bhanggal ki eek pristabhu meh,
[11:48] Pichle e pachas sal meh,
[11:49] Pahle e lagbhag pahintis sal kam nishtro nhe,
[11:52] Baag meh pundra sal T.M.C. nhe,
[11:54] Bhanggal ki demokrasi ko bendhak meh rakhata,
[11:56] Hooshtage meh rakhata,
[11:59] Hari dheta charam pe honne ke baabajud,
[12:01] Vikaas nahi karna,
[12:02] Logo ko huay dhikha na,
[12:04] Yeh shirip eek chunau ki nati jah nahi hai,
[12:06] Bhanggal nne is baar pachas sal ki,
[12:08] Eek alag pattern pe gya hai,
[12:11] Autocratic pattern ko tođ ke,
[12:13] Eek democratic pattern ko apna hai,
[12:15] Yeh shirip eek 2026 ki chunau nahi hai,
[12:18] Yeh pichle e pachas sal ki kai chunau ke anndar,
[12:22] Jho kumtha ti,
[12:22] Jho reluctance di society ki,
[12:24] Eek positive mandate karne ke liye,
[12:26] Jis ki meh nne kaya,
[12:27] Ho historical background ta 1905 se,
[12:29] Aprile bangal bangal kiyo hua,
[12:31] Kya karan kya tha,
[12:32] Kya bangal ki resource,
[12:34] Ghuspeti yon ke paas dahega,
[12:36] Kya border AC khule dahega,
[12:39] Kya chakri nahi mih lega,
[12:40] It's saare ke upar,
[12:41] Historical fact, cultural fact,
[12:44] Rheo political, Rheo economic,
[12:46] Socio economic issues,
[12:47] Bangal ki chunau ki nati jah hai.
[12:49] Mauwa, Chati ji has a question for you, Mauwa.
[12:52] Dharminder ji, congratulations,
[12:54] And one, just one short question to you,
[12:58] On this forum, and I want to ask you,
[13:00] You are a very, you have been involved with elections in various states,
[13:06] And you are an experienced person on this, on behalf of your party BJP.
[13:12] So, just if you could explain a little bit as to what is the difference in Bengal,
[13:18] This voting pattern, in the two, from the 2024 Lok Sabha elections,
[13:24] And this one, which is barely a, I mean just two years,
[13:29] There's just two years between them, because in 2024, you did lose some votes,
[13:35] But now you have gained big, so what is the difference that has made this possible?
[13:39] I couldn't hear, Mauwa ji
[13:49] Okay, let me see if I can get Borea Majumdar to ask a question, Borea.
[13:54] As a Bengali, Dharminder ji, every time we talk about Bengal, and I hear,
[14:01] We don't have opportunities, there are no jobs, so I have to go somewhere else,
[14:05] Somebody has to go somewhere else, go and seek opportunity, employment, whatever.
[14:09] After this victory, do you reckon we will seriously now have the Bengali talent go back to Bengal,
[14:16] Get opportunities, see progress, see no longer corruption,
[14:21] The Bengalis will finally get it all back?
[14:23] Certainly, certainly, on this, all this issue, we have fought election,
[14:28] We have assured, we have promised in our manifesto,
[14:31] There will new jobs will be there, the industrialization will start again in Bengal,
[14:35] The agricultural field of Bengal will be again flourished,
[14:38] All these new economic activities, I am thankful to Prime Minister Narendra Modi,
[14:43] Since last 12 years, Prime Minister Modi's priority is towards eastern part of the country,
[14:50] Be it Bengal, be it northeastern states like Assama and other states,
[14:54] Be it Bihar, Jharkhand, Odishan, Chhattisgarh,
[14:57] These are the part where Prime Minister Narendra Modi consistently saying one thing,
[15:02] Unless until there is a Purwadev, Bharat cannot be developed,
[15:06] So Bengal is the epicenter of this Purwadev movement,
[15:09] Bengal, Kolkata is the capital of this economic activities of this eastern part of India,
[15:14] Certainly, primary responsibility job, primary responsibility will be security of women,
[15:20] Primary responsibility will restore the education ecosystem of Bengal,
[15:24] The Glodius Bengal, Sonar Bangla,
[15:26] The primary responsibility will be how to safeguard the border,
[15:29] How to create a security system in our country,
[15:32] All these things we have promised during the election,
[15:34] Prime Minister himself, Prime Minister himself visited many parts of the Bengal,
[15:39] And assured people to look into, to take care of all these things,
[15:43] People of Bengal have to repose their faith and BJP and Prime Minister Modi,
[15:47] Now our primary responsibility is to fulfill all those things.
[15:50] One last question, Veer Sangvi has a question for you, then we let you go, Minister. Yes, Veer.
[15:54] Narwander Ji, congratulations. I only will be appearing on this program to congratulate you every time.
[16:00] Thank you, Veer.
[16:02] But sort of basic question, we have been hearing your colleagues, particularly your colleagues from Bengal,
[16:08] And they are all talking about Hindu consolidation and resentment of minority appeasement, etc, etc.
[16:15] It is inevitable that in this spirit of Hindu triumphalism,
[16:19] There will be a degree of insecurity among Bengal's Muslims.
[16:23] Do you have anything to say to them?
[16:26] You are a very seasoned socio-political analysis of this country.
[16:30] Let me assure you, we are in charge of majority part of the country today.
[16:35] There are a lot of minority population in other parts of the country, in U.P., Bihar.
[16:39] We have successfully running government in Assam,
[16:43] Where sizable of local Muslim community are there in Assam.
[16:47] They all are with Bharatiya Janata Party.
[16:49] I have known Western Uttar Pradesh last time.
[16:51] Many of my colleagues were looking into the Assam election of Western Uttar Pradesh in 2022.
[16:58] This apprehension was there.
[17:00] I assure you.
[17:01] Yes, certainly we are further, you are anti-inflitator.
[17:05] We have made the issue of Ghospatya.
[17:08] The way Mohammedab Banerjee has patronized this infiltrator, the Ghospatya.
[17:12] There is a religion, a point out of that issue.
[17:16] I assure you, I assure you.
[17:17] And Bharatiya Janata Party and my primitive philosophy is that everything is together and all its work.
[17:23] Dhammheenji, please tell us about that.
[17:27] Now your government is both in Odisha and Bengal,
[17:29] so who is the relationship between Rasgulla and Bali?
[17:33] The government is on Odisha.
[17:35] We are both in Jazm惠na.
[17:37] The government is both in Rajaghan.
[17:39] Today, you are right now.
[17:40] Why are you stopping us from here?
[17:42] We are coming to Bengal, and the entire cycle is complete today.
[17:45] Thank you very much. Really appreciate you taking our time and joining us.
[17:54] Union Minister Darmendra Pradhan, one of the key architects of that Victory NDTV on a bit of a role here Shiv.
[17:59] Absolutely. And Mamata Banerjee in fact has just put out a video, Rahul, that's the breaking news coming in right now.
[18:05] Her first reaction and she's alleging slow counting or selective counting by the election commission.
[18:11] She's just put out a video message. Let's listen into that.
[18:14] Please do not have a counting agent or party candidate.
[18:22] They will not be able to do this.
[18:25] There is a strong room where there is a counting, or a center.
[18:29] There will not be able to do this.
[18:31] This is the plan.
[18:32] The first two-three rounds of the country will be able to do this.
[18:35] They will not be able to do this.
[18:38] They will not be able to do this.
[18:41] They will not be able to do this.
[18:44] So what she is saying is that no counting agent should leave the boots because what
[19:09] they are doing is after two three rounds they've deliberately stalled counting they are deliberately
[19:14] doing it to give the bjp this lead in a national platform so she's assuring her her people not to
[19:22] leave the field at all because trinamul apparently very much in the race according to her this is the
[19:29] central force this is the election commission this is all being orchestrated against her party
[19:35] so it's it's a clear case of you know it's a conspiracy theory that's what she's saying
[19:41] and she's urging everybody like she has said the last few days nobody is to leave or feeling
[19:46] deflated or feeling negative similar kind of allegation came out from the congress party
[19:52] during the haryana election the election commission was very quick to respond and clarify about the
[19:57] rate of count would that jam be true is there is there is any statistical chance of the trinamul
[20:02] still bouncing back or is she just trying to hold on to straws no even if we go by the most
[20:07] conservative estimates which is the election commission for the last three years the election
[20:12] commission is consistent that the bjp has a three percent lead over the trinamul they're consistent
[20:17] for the last three years and now even the election commission has put the bjp on a 170 number leads
[20:22] plus wins so i don't think the trend is going to reverse it's now very difficult from here but
[20:28] vira raga 106 for the tvk it seems quite certain that vijay will be the next chief minister of
[20:37] tamilnad i yes and i think it's time to call this election as far as tamilnad's concern vijay is the
[20:43] winner stalin is the big loser edapadi is still confused on whether he's won or lost uh he's somewhere
[20:49] in the middle uh but i think this is clear vijay vijay or whoever he chooses from as part of his tvk will
[20:56] be the chief minister but he has declared that he is the chief ministerial face this party has declared
[21:01] so i'm presuming that it will be vijay as chief minister perhaps with the support of some smaller
[21:07] parties whether he is going to take it as a coalition and give tamilnad its first big coalition
[21:12] since 1952 or is it going to be a single party government where he just has people who tied up to
[21:18] him let's not forget rahul that there are several admk former admk leaders whether it is ph pandian son
[21:24] manoj pandian in the alangulam seat or whether it is opaneer salvam in bodhi naya karu who shifted to
[21:31] the dmk i will not be surprised if some more people if the number is very small who decide to move out of
[21:38] the parties that they are in to gravitate towards vijay for a longer term thing so his branding is
[21:43] solidifying into vijay nayagan taking his name and joining it with the second word of his thing
[21:48] niger is famous kamal hasan film so but obviously no comparison whatsoever niger means hero
[21:54] the the the no comparisons with what kamal hasan has achieved in politics this is a diametric
[22:00] opposite so no connection you know but shiv you know we don't know when jananayagan is going to
[22:07] release but vijay has released some of us have seen it on whatsapp in the league
[22:13] has been brave enough to admit it at this point of time but i'm going to ask for our reporters to come
[22:18] back live with us because we want to see what's going on everybody wants to see what's happening at the
[22:23] tvk headquarters as well as in vijay's residence in nilangaray in chennai which we visited in january
[22:29] because that's where the action is going to be there probably is going to be a larger celebration
[22:35] at some point of time maybe a little later because both those places veera are very congested places
[22:41] they can't have a like a big rally kind of thing there where would it be then it has to be marina beach
[22:47] that's the only place which can hold as many people and i think it's going to be passed but
[22:51] i want to ask you very very quickly uh given that you studied in chennai what do we tell the dmk what
[22:58] do we tell all those dmk leaders who turned around after the exit poll and called us and said you guys
[23:05] are wrong who told us all through this campaign that you guys are only you know hyping up tvk it's just a
[23:12] movie star party it's never going to make it the dmk made this mistake back in the 1970s
[23:19] when they declared mgr as just a movie star it got routed out of power they did the same thing this
[23:24] time and it's just answer to because when i wrote a profile on why don't you answer it no no when i
[23:30] wrote about uh vijay you know the title of the piece on ndtv was lights camera sarkar they said how come you
[23:37] are writing i mean you're a serious person you're writing about such things and all and so i said
[23:42] it's a phenomena you have to sort of observe phenomena you know and and you know how how much was was the
[23:48] kind of pressure and pushback that came in during the conclave manu sorry he joins us can we just take
[23:55] him live for a couple of minutes as so many different things coming in uh manu ji you campaigned so much
[24:00] in west bingol many congratulations on this big victory job aya te humare studio aapne bola ta ki jito ga
[24:05] or baut badi jeet aap loge ki jar darju hai paschim mangal mein manu ji ye sir we want to take you live can
[24:24] you hear me mr so we don't have that link with manu ji i'm gonna bump to that in just a minute
[24:30] okay i'm joined at this moment live and exclusive by one of the key architects of the congress's victory
[24:36] in kerala vd satishan the man who led the campaign for the congress party joining us on a day when
[24:42] he's delivered a historic victory for the congress mr satishan welcome congratulations thank you thank
[24:49] you very much thank you very much we have declared that um we may get oh let me try that again there's a
[24:57] lot of chaos but he's he's willing to come live let me try that again vd satishan led this massive
[25:03] campaign did a big padhyatra took on the mighty pinari vision and has now managed to take the party
[25:09] to power if you go by popularity sweepstakes he's actually leading the charge potentially veera to
[25:15] be the next chief minister no and categorical he's a very very he's there he's there let's listen to him
[25:19] sir congratulations fantastic victory very well done explain to us how you made it happen mr satishan
[25:27] you're live on ndtv whatever you say is live so tell us how did you make this happen sir i am i'm happy to
[25:35] um say that uh we have predicted that we may get more than 100 seats now we got more than 100 seats
[25:43] right now we are closing hundred seats now we are closing under seat now it is 103 okay that uh that was
[25:53] our prediction sir how are you how are you now you know you remember you promised me that you will
[26:01] come to kabini and do an interview with me you like going to the forest you said you'll come to
[26:07] are you going to delhi now or are you going to kabini are you going to delhi now or are you going to
[26:12] kabini definitely i want to visit kabini again as i said you earlier will you be the chief minister of
[26:21] kerala will you that will be decided that will be decided by the congress i command there is a
[26:28] procedure you know that there is a procedure i am not the competent person to say anything about that
[26:35] now uh we predicted more than 100 scenes we we are now reaching more than 100 seats we are very happy
[26:43] there was an anti-incumbency against the government and we we said to the people that we have been
[26:50] criticizing the government for a long time at the same time we we said that we have alternatives
[26:58] wherever the government failed the udf have alternatives now the people believed us that we
[27:05] have alternatives in the fiscal situation kerala is vulnerable health education everywhere and the brain
[27:11] drain is happening and we have uh made a detailed study this is a this may be the first opposition in
[27:19] the entire country we have uh done a homework for the last two years we have been doing this thing
[27:26] and we have conducted many countries we interacted with many experts across the world then now we have
[27:33] documents in each and every subject now we are uh going to implement uh definitely our udf government
[27:41] will implement what we uh promised to the ground uh people of kerala sir you are being very modest the
[27:49] fact is your padhyatra had a very big role to play what's the lesson you think the kerala congress is
[27:54] sending to the country the way you're active on the ground your padhyatra on the ground had a big role
[28:00] to play in this victory mr satishan yes i agree with you we have very good organization set up we have
[28:08] built up uh picked up our organization set up perfectly number one and we have taken some positions
[28:15] we have taken a secular position nobody was ready to take such a position secular position some of the
[28:25] groups um declared their support to us some extreme outfits we said no we don't want your support we
[28:33] don't want your support we have taken secular and the people believed us all the community across a
[28:40] state all the communities voted for us majority community as well as the minority community
[28:46] voted for a udf because kerala is secular this victory of the udf i am proud to say that this
[28:55] is a declaration of our state that to the entire country that our kerala is secular we sang with
[29:02] well-known journalists we sang we has a question for you please everybody talked about anti-incumbrance
[29:11] everybody talked about what a good job you've done in preparing for this election what people did say
[29:18] was that it wasn't clear that you would be the only people to take advantage of anti-incumbency the
[29:24] bjp as you know has had a landslide in assam appears to have done very well in bengal people said that
[29:31] the bjp was now ready to make a huge mark in kerala that doesn't seem to have happened why do you think
[29:37] that's true the bjp um was not a force in kerala i already stated that our kerala is secular we'll
[29:49] never accept any communal forces this is the declaration of our state to the entire country
[29:54] that our kerala is secular uh not only the anti-incumbency and the incumbency was a major
[30:01] component for our victory definitely i agree that but at the same time we have alternatives people
[30:07] believed us we have made detailed studies homework many conclaves many interactions and we had definite
[30:17] programs to the public so we won the election the bjp doesn't have any say in kerala this is not
[30:26] like any other northern states or any other states this is kerala kerala is here has a question for
[30:32] you one second sir shankar ir has a question for you shankar vd satishan please ramaskaram sir
[30:39] congratulations thank you i was most impressed with all your conclaves and the idea engagement that
[30:48] you conducted now if you were to give the congress party president and the others one advice on how to
[30:59] win elections what would it be i am not i am not a uh eligible or competent person to advise uh congress
[31:08] item and nothing but you agree they need advice but that the problem is that kerala is different
[31:17] we have organizations set up everywhere organizations in every booth and every ward across the state
[31:25] we have booth committees when we started with that booth committees the first work was to
[31:31] constitute the booth committees everywhere second work was to enroll the entire voters enroll the entire
[31:38] voters those who are voting for the congress party or udf our third the social engineering third the social
[31:47] engineering then we should have definite positioning positioning a secular uh plan there is a secular plan
[31:57] we have taken very strictly secular positioning and i think the uh fourth one is we should have definite
[32:05] plans to the entire state uh i think the entire youths of kerala ordered for us major percentage maybe 70
[32:15] more than 70 percent voted for us voted for us because of the hope because uh we have interacted with the
[32:23] youngsters interacted with the youngsters we have to interact with the entire uh sector of the people
[32:31] then there should be credibility when we are saying something people should believe uh that we will
[32:40] implement that the credibility factor in politics is also very important and people believe us because
[32:49] we are credible okay shiv aru has a i know you need to go shiv aru has a quick question shiv this is
[32:55] satishan very very warm congratulations to you on a well-deserved performance by your uh by your
[33:01] coalition in uh in kerala my quick question to you i know you dodged this question earlier there is no
[33:07] shortage of talent in your party to be leader do you think the process of selection of chief minister
[33:14] is going to be a smooth process the reason i asked this question says because as we've seen there are
[33:19] no shortage of contenders in kerala that should be very smooth that should be very smooth because
[33:29] people are observing the entire people of kerala are observing what we are going to do when we are
[33:38] uh there is a when uh the believers as a fear about the god we the people's representatives should have
[33:47] a fear about the people of kerala so we know that the people are observing what we are going to do so
[33:55] it should be a smooth process how will you celebrate how will you say you're looking very very serious
[34:01] through all this big victory rare victory for your party how will vd satishan and the kerala congress
[34:06] celebrate we are celebrating with the people of kerala the people are celebrating we are with them
[34:15] what is there for sadhya today sir what are you eating today what is all our colleagues are
[34:22] distributing um sweets we should have a kerala sadhya and you have to invite us for it as well
[34:32] please don't eat without us we'll come and join you and we'll have some lovely kerala thank you very much
[34:37] thank you sir thank you vd satishan the man who arguably should be the next chief minister if you
[34:43] go by popularity no and also in terms of the fact that yeah it but you never know with the congress
[34:48] but the fact is that he was the one who led the paliyatra and i'll also tell you this uh he in the
[34:54] conclave when i asked him specifically this question and today he was a little more muted in his answer
[34:59] i asked him is it okay for a party to go into an election without a chief minister he said he said
[35:04] i have my own personal views on it but i'm not going to express that the party high command has
[35:08] decided to go with one thing he's very clear where he what that he has two stars with us no no don't
[35:12] call them singers they'll be very upset very serious politicians but also singers come on
[35:18] can we quickly take manoj tiwari ji he worked very hard on this campaign manoji swagat hai aapka
[35:24] is this like in some ways the last dream finally coming true in west bengal manu ji yes yes yes
[35:38] ah rahul ji is me koji dora hai nahi ki pashchim bangal ki janta ne eek bhoot bada mandate diya
[35:47] hai abhi aapke screen pe me dekh raha hoon 190 plus ka aankara bjp ki taraf or dekhiye mein toh 36
[35:56] bidhan sabha me 43 event me gaya hoon or us ke saath saath kisi ke ghar mein khaya na khaya na kisi ke saath
[36:06] chai pe charcha ke koji flight me mil gaya mujhe eek dialogue eek vyakti ka yaad aata hai woh
[36:13] gurugram se ja raya thay kolkata flight me mile aur 35-36 saal ke yuva thay naukri karthay thay
[36:20] bahaar bhaar bhoot achi oh balee meire papa ne bola hai meire father ne bola hai ki beta oot
[36:27] ڈal ke jaroor jana oh mahi suna mahi nahi ni puchha kisko oot ڈalne jara hai but utartate
[36:33] sami unho nne kaha modi ko bolo basim bangal ko bacha le ye ek line na wade dhimag
[36:42] me gungj raha hiya aur phirme rizal dekh raha hoon mahi ye basim bangal ke 36
[36:49] jagohon pe mahi kahi 85 year ki eek buhhi maata se mila wo jangipur hai mursidhabad
[36:55] mein loog jis prakar se is bar sandes khali rg kar iska jabab dhenne ke liye kattay thay
[37:05] unko sirf eek hi chis chahiye thi hume woot ڈalne ki ajadhi ho jai okey
[37:11] aur aaj jayse hi eek garib ko eek bohut hala gulla nahi karke chup chap woot ڈalne
[37:18] walay ko ye joh mooka milana iska yeh paridam hai padmaja has a question for maitli
[37:24] taqo padmaja paatiyaan kuch bhi kahengi lekin pashim bangal ke 90 percent gharo me chunav
[37:31] aayog aur uske prati badaas dhanyabad bhao hai sawai bolche amra chunav aayog ke dhanyabad
[37:40] janakshi tab mein ek star pracharak ke saath saath mein purana pashim bangal ki dharti
[37:47] si meran nata hai ah mein wahaan nokri karta ta ta mein sab ko batata ta
[37:52] haamiyokane chakri kor chilam haamiy rajasthaan mathe krikit khil chilam
[37:57] tab mein is result ko bhout bada maantta hum mein ne chunav mein ghiit gaya tha
[38:04] ki ma maati manus pukare matbatna isubar ay bari palta no dhurkar
[38:15] aur ho gai bjp sarkar
[38:19] mein pure bangal ke adal alag alag chhetrou mein gaya huu raahun kamal bhai sahab
[38:26] ji ji ji
[38:27] aur meinne joh apni aankhau se dhekha hai
[38:29] logon ne thahan liya tha
[38:32] ki ab illegal bangaladeshi ghuspaitiyo ka ráj nain chalne deenge
[38:36] ab paschim bangal ke ma maati manus ka ráj hooga
[38:40] dhidhi nae joh bhrasht aur kururta ka chram paar kar gahin
[38:45] uska jawab paschim bangal ki jantah ne diya hai
[38:49] mein narin mochi joh apne baat kahi hai
[38:52] joh vishwas unho ne kamaaya hai
[38:53] aur khas torphe jis tariqe se
[38:55] aapne bangalabhasha me hi baat ki hai
[38:58] iska anhyya hissah
[38:59] aapne baut extensively
[39:00] aapne
[39:01] semajne ke liye baut
[39:02] dheir tak samixha karni hogi
[39:04] bilkul
[39:06] aur aap
[39:06] dillii ke sansad hai
[39:08] uttar pradish ke mool nevasi hai
[39:10] maithli thakur
[39:11] aapne yaad karana chaata hoon
[39:13] ki bharat ke pashimi ghat ko mandit karne vale
[39:17] mahasagar ke kinaare khaade ho kar
[39:19] maye bhavishch maari karne ka saas karta hoon
[39:21] ki adhaira chhathe ga suraj nikalega kamal khilega
[39:25] uttar viharif bhajpe ji ko yaad karna chaata hoon
[39:28] narendra modhi ji ne unki baat ho ko akchar sakh poora karne ka
[39:33] sankalp liya aaj poora ho raha hai
[39:35] ji manuji kyunki aapne jo extensively campaign kya
[39:38] ki aapne jo ek dharna thi
[39:40] and we also have Maitali Thakur with us
[39:42] I think maybe perhaps Manoj Tiwari has lost the line so he cannot hear us
[39:47] but let us bring in Maitali Thakur also at this point
[39:49] because remember in this entire campaign you had the whole narrative
[39:53] of how it is a question of a sort of an invasion of the outsider
[39:58] the other on the Bengali identity
[40:00] but then you've got people like Manoj Tiwari, like Maitali Thakur
[40:03] who are speaking in Bangla, who are campaigning in Bangla
[40:07] there are large pockets and in Havra, in Hooghi, in fact even in Kolkata
[40:12] which have Hindi speakers who this time have flipped from the TMC towards the BJP
[40:18] Maitali Thakur, you have to encourage a lot of you
[40:21] everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, wherever you are
[40:24] Ravindra Shangeet was always saying that Maitali Thakur, listen to it
[40:29] first Bihar, now Bengal
[40:31] Today I have joined as a politician, not as a singer
[40:36] but definitely, when I have listened to a song and sang to people
[40:43] so I will listen to you two lines
[40:45] and it really touched me
[40:47] I was able to resonate with people when I was listening to this song
[40:51] Thank you
[40:52] Thank you
[40:53] Thank you
[40:54] Maitali, you know we are all watching how the result in Bengal where you campaigned so much is unfolding right now
[41:17] and thank you for that beautiful song
[41:19] Are you surprised as a young woman, as you travel through Bengal, are you surprised by the scale of this result as it stands right now?
[41:24] You spoke to women, you interacted with the people of Bengal, are you surprised by what you are seeing?
[41:46] What you are seeing?
[41:50] How you are seeing, as you have seen, is the result in the result of people who are interested in certain parts of Bengal
[41:57] We went to Chanaav Prachar, so many places we went to.
[42:01] 35-40 places I went to.
[42:03] So I was thinking that people have already made a mind.
[42:07] I didn't need to convince them.
[42:10] So there was something.
[42:12] And when I saw the first place of campaign,
[42:16] I study about that place.
[42:20] What are they doing?
[42:22] What are they talking about?
[42:24] When I saw
[42:26] MPs, who are very popular,
[42:29] and are very good.
[42:31] So I don't think there is a cultural identity crisis.
[42:34] I don't think people have to face in Bangladesh.
[42:38] And people are so aware that they are in India.
[42:41] They are doing things in India.
[42:43] They are doing things in India.
[42:45] They are doing a lot of advancement.
[42:49] They promote other Islamic values.
[42:54] They are doing things in India.
[42:55] They are doing things in India.
[42:56] They are doing things in India.
[42:57] They are doing things in India.
[42:58] They are doing things in India.
[42:59] They are doing things in India.
[43:00] So I am thinking.
[43:01] This campaign may,
[43:02] as you have seen,
[43:03] the Trinamool projected the BJP as incapable of understanding Bengali culture.
[43:10] They said that the BJP are outsiders.
[43:12] They are from the Hindi heartland.
[43:14] you you're a representative as well now from the BJP from the Hindi Heartland what what what do you
[43:20] say to the Trinamul because they said that the BJP is incapable of culturally understanding Bengal
[43:25] a question there a reporter asked that you are saying that if the BJP comes here then there will be
[43:35] machli bant will be closed so I hit that is also said that the people are saying that they are
[43:40] saying that they are saying that they are saying that they are saying that they are saying that
[43:43] in the Mithila and in the Mithila nda maarch a tradition is used to sway voters
[43:51] this is a very common level but the project is happening all these little things
[43:56] then people are aware of the people are seeing that the BJP is a very developed it is the
[44:02] government and different this thing they should go to the Bangladesh then every young person is
[44:09] and they want to develop in Bengals
[44:11] so maybe some youth
[44:13] and they have a major role
[44:15] this time
[44:39] there are cultural similarities
[44:41] and you had Ram Dhun
[44:43] to sing in response
[44:45] for everyone watching you today
[44:47] even as we see the results pouring in
[44:49] would you like to sing
[44:51] a few of those lines because I think that is something
[44:53] everyone who watched you on our channel
[44:55] really connected
[45:24] Manoghya has a question for you
[45:28] Manoghya
[45:31] I wanted to ask you that you've been to Bengal
[45:33] during this campaign
[45:35] what is the major difference that you see
[45:37] between Bihar and Bengal
[45:39] and also what is your message
[45:41] to Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee today
[45:43] Difference in what aspect
[45:47] any aspect cultural or anything
[45:49] because Machir Jhol ki baat hoti hai na
[45:51] Machli to dono rajo mein khate hai
[45:53] Jai Jai Jai
[45:55] I wanted to see that
[45:57] Mithila and Bengal
[45:59] it is the other one
[46:01] it is the other one
[46:03] because our Mithila and Bihar
[46:05] as many people here
[46:07] when there was such a situation
[46:09] there was such a natural problem
[46:11] so here people go to Bengal
[46:13] they have to eat
[46:15] and then they have to go back to Bihar
[46:17] so this is a history
[46:19] in Mithila and Bihar
[46:21] and Bengal
[46:23] you will also see
[46:25] Mithila and Bengal
[46:27] but Bihar Agat
[46:29] when people come out to campaign
[46:31] they had to say Bihar Agat
[46:33] this is the other one
[46:36] it is the other one
[46:38] it is the other one
[46:40] it is the other one
[46:42] that you have to affect
[46:44] so when you are talking about it
[46:46] when you are talking about it
[46:48] but you are keeping them
[46:50] it is a very hypocrite
[46:52] that you are talking about it
[46:54] when you are talking about it
[46:56] you are talking about it
[46:58] that is very contradictory for me
[47:00] Mokke Mantri
[47:02] thank you very much for speaking to everybody
[47:04] congratulations
[47:06] once again on the role that you have played
[47:08] in this entire campaign
[47:10] while we get our next big guest here
[47:12] on our coverage
[47:14] some images coming in from outside
[47:16] the TVK headquarters
[47:17] Vijay's residence
[47:18] where Trisha
[47:19] his partner has just arrived
[47:21] these pictures are going viral right now
[47:23] these are pictures of Trisha
[47:26] outside Vijay's residence
[47:28] ok starting starting
[47:29] ok ok
[47:30] i wanna go across now
[47:31] to one of the key architects
[47:33] of the congresses victory
[47:35] in Kerala
[47:36] Ramesh Chanitala
[47:37] he has led the congress party on the ground
[47:39] he joins us now
[47:40] live and exclusive on NDTV
[47:43] Mr. Chanitala
[47:44] welcome
[47:45] many many congratulations on a hard fought victory
[47:48] thank you
[47:49] thank you very much
[47:50] thank you
[47:51] we met in
[47:53] we went in
[47:54] when the Kerala power play was happening
[47:56] you sounded confident then
[47:58] are the numbers
[47:59] keeping with your expectations
[48:01] or have you won bigger than you thought you might
[48:03] in Kerala
[48:04] the people of Kerala
[48:07] has given us a beating
[48:10] to give a beating
[48:11] to the misrule of CPM
[48:14] now
[48:17] led by Kati
[48:22] it is a historic victory
[48:27] for the congress and the UDF
[48:30] feel that
[48:32] people of Kerala
[48:34] stood Korean politics
[48:37] and
[48:39] a left democratic front
[48:42] so we are very happy today
[48:44] and we are thankful to the people of Kerala
[48:46] under the leadership of
[48:49] S. Rahul Gandhi
[48:50] I was the
[48:52] chairman of the campaign committee
[48:54] under his leadership
[48:56] we had
[48:58] prepared everything properly
[48:59] and the campaign was very good
[49:01] organizations and weakness were removed
[49:04] and we all worked too
[49:05] that is why
[49:07] every congress worker
[49:10] every UDF worker
[49:12] they are unitedly fighting for this victory
[49:15] sir my colleague Veeran Agar has a question for you
[49:18] Veeran
[49:19] sir how are you
[49:20] you know
[49:21] I want to ask you this question in a very
[49:23] very delicate way
[49:25] who deserves the most to be the chief minister of Kerala
[49:29] is it the leader of opposition or the chief of the campaign committee
[49:32] tell me
[49:34] tell me
[49:37] who deserves to be the chief minister of Kerala
[49:40] the leader of opposition or the chairman of the campaign committee
[49:42] he doesn't want to answer that question
[49:43] sir what kind of a government should Kerala expect
[49:45] try and answer that question
[49:46] can you hear me Mr. Chenithala if you hear me
[49:50] I don't think he can hear us just then
[49:52] okay we will try this again
[49:56] Veera you bold a googly boss
[49:58] ask him some simpler question
[50:01] Vijay's father speaking
[50:02] Vijay's father
[50:03] yes
[50:04] I want to go back to those pictures very quickly
[50:05] which we were showing our viewers
[50:06] because
[50:07] Vijay's father's speaking
[50:08] that attitude
[50:09] first of all for a leader
[50:10] that boldness
[50:12] no alliance
[50:14] stand with my own length
[50:15] what kind of a leader
[50:17] what kind of a leader
[50:18] that boldness
[50:19] should be the leader
[50:20] who is the leader
[50:23] what kind of a leader
[50:27] that boldness
[50:31] no alliance
[50:32] stand with my own legs. I was stubborn in this. So, it's a good thing for Tamil Nadu and Tamil people, Tamil peoples.
[50:54] Definitely, I think it's a historical success, historical victory for Vijay.
[51:06] We saw your celebration along with your family members. Madam was also joining you in the celebration.
[51:12] It's a big day for your family. Your family is now seeing Mr. Vijay as the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.
[51:20] Have you ever been discussed when Mr. Vijay was in his childhood days?
[51:25] Have you ever dreamt of your son will be the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu?
[51:31] But motivated. Always motivated. As a human, you should not be as an only artist. You must have some social thinking.
[51:57] So, last 30 years, he was having in his mind, we have to do something for the society, for the Tamil people.
[52:09] There in his mind, slowly he has developed these things. Today, he is going to be the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.
[52:23] Sir, a lot of fans of Vijay are now weeping. They are crying that Vijay Talapati will be the Chief Minister.
[52:30] He will be swearing in as the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu. He will be representing 7.5 crore Tamil people, sir.
[52:39] How do you see it? I can see your eyes with emotions now?
[52:44] No, the people. You are getting emotional, sir? Automatically, of course.
[52:59] My father, I should have. New people loved him. Not only a leader. He has a leader.
[53:12] Yes. Ladies, considering him as his own son. Young people, own brother. Like own brother. Not like, here everybody is calling youth.
[53:31] Anna. Anna means brother. Everybody is calling. Elder brother, yes. Elder brother or younger brother.
[53:41] Old ladies, they are considering him as his own son. Some six years old ladies, they are considering him as grandson.
[53:49] He has developed that relationship between the public and me.
[53:57] You are also a great artist, sir. On this very day, if I talk to you, then if I spare you without asking you for a line in Tamil on this very huge success, sir, how do you address in Tamil a short line?
[54:16] Because it is an artistic family, sir. Of course, I am not an actor. I am a director.
[54:24] Definitely, sir. I am a director. I have directed more than 70 films.
[54:28] You have also launched your son, Mr. Vijay Tamar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is my duty. I have done. He wanted to be an artist. I have done. That is my duty.
[54:39] He has come up with his own talent and own, what means, trial, hard work, sincerity, discipline. Here in the Tamil industry, no directors and no producers will say any wrong things about Vijay.
[55:08] They will appreciate everybody, all directors, all producers. They will appreciate Vijay. His punctuality, his discipline, outside and from.
[55:30] There is a line in Tamil also for the Tamil people, sir, because we have Tamil audience. They want to listen from you, sir.
[55:36] In Tamil, this very huge success of Tamil Nadu and your son, Mr. Vijay Talapati.
[55:41] I am a leader of Tamil Nadu. You are a leader of Vijay.
[55:52] They are the leader of Vijay. They are the leader of Tamil Nadu, Tamil Nadu.
[56:03] They are the leader of Tamil Nadu. They have the leader of your leader.
[56:11] They are the leader of Tamil Nadu.
[56:12] They are good. They are good.
[56:16] They are good.
[56:24] In their art, I'm happy.
[56:32] We are happy.
[56:35] Our products, our products, our family,
[56:40] we are happy.
[56:42] What change do you expect on the very first day
[56:47] when Mr. Vijay will be taking oath
[56:49] as Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu?
[56:51] Okay, sir.
[56:52] Vijay, Vijay Gopalan, NDTV's correspondent in Chennai is at the TVK office, Vijay we've just heard from the father of Vijay but nobody has seen Vijay, we've seen Trisha, we've seen mother, we've seen father, we've seen relatives, where is Vijay, when are we going to see him?
[57:10] Sure as we speak Vijay is at residence only, I think today post afternoon once they get clear picture of results Vijay might visit party office, remember just few days back only Vijay held meeting with all candidates, but I had said that by evening he requested all candidates to visit party office once they got
[57:35] Vijay stay with us, stay with us just for a moment, we're joined live and exclusive at this time on NDTV by a very special man
[57:45] and can I ask all the NDTV pundits and anchors to pull out their whistles, can you pull out their whistles because this indeed is whistle time and it is whistle time and I want to make very clear, we're not celebrating any of the politicians who won, we're celebrating Pradeep Gupta who got it right, so much was said about exit polls being bump come, all fake read this that, the one man who said that TVK will do well in Tamil Nadu to the extent that they can win
[58:15] we want to go across live and exclusive to the Access My India office in Mumbai, joining us from there is Pradeep Gupta, I want to call Veera, Shiv, Padmaja here, we'll have him queued up at the back, there he is, they're all dressed up in their Access My India clothes which is fine too, Gupta ji, you're all dressed up in their Access My India clothes which is fine too, Gupta ji, can you hear me or can you hear me, that's the big question, Pradeep ji, can you hear us or not?
[58:42] It is a rander style entry, your trade? I don't know but the problem is, can you hear me or not? That's the bigger question, Pradeep Gupta can you hear us?
[58:52] He's got a full cake and stuff lined up which is pretty interesting and he actually deserves it, this was a tough one, veer, he needs to cut out on a limb, he's neck out on this one
[59:02] but can he hear us or not? Veer sang, till then, till we get him right, till we get him, they're all celebrating, there he is! Pradeep ji, can you hear us or not?
[59:11] Come here, come here, come here
[59:15] Look out
[59:22] They are celebrating and with good reason
[59:24] This was an outlier poll
[59:26] Let's just listen in
[59:29] Live images from the Access My India offices
[59:32] Right here on NDTV
[59:34] A big celebration and with good reason
[59:37] Dancing the cameraman should show the dance
[59:55] We will get it again
[1:00:00] We will hopefully get him live
[1:00:01] That's most important
[1:00:02] Yeah, yeah, there will be plenty
[1:00:04] That is not the step that he should be doing today
[1:00:07] You know, we should send a tutorial video for him
[1:00:10] For the Talapati Kacheri song
[1:00:12] That's the step he should be doing today
[1:00:14] If we get him live Vira Yogan will cut
[1:00:16] Teach him how to do that
[1:00:18] Radeep Ji, can you hear me?
[1:00:21] Radeep Ji, can you hear me?
[1:00:28] Radeep Ji, can you hear me?
[1:00:32] Radeep Ji, can you hear me?
[1:00:36] How are you?
[1:00:41] If you listen to the music in the office
[1:00:43] How are you going to hear me?
[1:00:45] First and foremost
[1:00:46] You know we have these whistles out for you
[1:00:48] And the whistles are for the fact that you got the pole right
[1:00:51] Which is quite fantastic
[1:00:52] Well done
[1:00:56] You know these whistles are ringing loud
[1:00:58] You don't have a whistle
[1:01:00] There's one right there
[1:01:02] Science victory
[1:01:03] This is the science
[1:01:04] Data science
[1:01:05] And second is Access My India team
[1:01:09] Working in ground
[1:01:11] And working in back office here in Bombay
[1:01:14] This is the victory of science
[1:01:16] Data science
[1:01:17] You would see that
[1:01:18] You would see that
[1:01:19] You would see that
[1:01:20] Why the other polling agency
[1:01:22] Could not predict or could not
[1:01:24] Could not capture the mood on the ground
[1:01:28] Because
[1:01:29] Because we at Access My India
[1:01:31] We go to all the states all the time
[1:01:35] If you see all our four states
[1:01:39] All of them this time on the exact pole
[1:01:44] That is what Access My India is known for
[1:01:47] Once again we are able to predict
[1:01:50] Exact pole in these four states where we have predicted
[1:01:54] Once again
[1:01:56] The good and the hard work of the Access My India team
[1:02:02] In all four states where we have done
[1:02:06] And we all know that we haven't predicted the bengal
[1:02:10] Pradeep Pradeep ji
[1:02:11] First of all congratulations
[1:02:13] It's great to see your young team for once
[1:02:15] Along with all of you
[1:02:19] Along with you all your team members
[1:02:21] Who did all the hard work are there
[1:02:23] If you can hear me
[1:02:24] You know the day after you came out with your exit pole
[1:02:27] We grilled you again asking you if you are confident
[1:02:30] About your projections on Vijay
[1:02:32] And you said you are even more confident
[1:02:34] So you must be very happy for sticking your neck out
[1:02:37] 100%
[1:02:41] I hope you enjoy that
[1:02:43] Yes from here across the country
[1:02:46] Nobody was believing this
[1:02:49] They said all fluke kind of thing
[1:02:52] All the political pundits, observers
[1:02:55] Other polling agencies
[1:02:57] They were all laughing at Access My India
[1:03:00] When we predicted Tamil Nadu
[1:03:03] And that to Vijay victory in this fashion
[1:03:06] Yes that's right Pradeep ji
[1:03:08] I just want to ask you
[1:03:09] As one of those who was skeptical of your poll
[1:03:12] As one of those who questioned you about the poll
[1:03:15] You underestimated the DMK
[1:03:19] You got the TVK right
[1:03:20] But the DMK has gone well below what you had estimated
[1:03:24] The DMK
[1:03:30] Also let me tell you the DMK
[1:03:31] The DMK alliance
[1:03:32] The vote share as of now is 32%
[1:03:39] And we predicted 35% for the TVK
[1:03:42] Which is the same 35% at this point of time
[1:03:46] And we predicted AIDMK alliance about 23%
[1:03:50] They are at 27%
[1:03:52] Still there are margins
[1:03:55] Where the AIDMK is leading in a very thin margin
[1:04:00] The more number of seats AIDMK is leading with double digit and 3 digits
[1:04:06] As compared to DMK alliance and the TVK
[1:04:09] I am pretty sure that DMK will again be the party number 2
[1:04:14] And party number 3 will be
[1:04:16] Padmaja
[1:04:17] This is what we have predicted
[1:04:18] And if you see the
[1:04:19] Pradeep ji
[1:04:20] Do you think that this is an essentially a young generation
[1:04:24] Would you classify this as a young generation
[1:04:29] You know next or rather next gen vote
[1:04:33] Where there is a generational change in the way that Tamil Nadu has voted
[1:04:38] And it has voted above the traditional binaries
[1:04:42] The traditional tropes we had seen so far working in Tamil Nadu
[1:04:45] Oh absolutely
[1:04:50] If you see our poll prediction
[1:04:52] We have predicted in the age group of 18 years of age to 39 years of age
[1:04:58] Where the 42% of which contribute 42% of the voting universe in Tamil Nadu
[1:05:05] That is where Vijay at the TVK were scoring very high
[1:05:11] More than 50% all put together in this age group
[1:05:15] And he was scoring fairly good among the 40 plus age group
[1:05:22] Which is around 25 to 30%
[1:05:25] And this vote got consolidated clubbed with the female vote
[1:05:31] There also we predicted the TVK vote share is way higher than the second best
[1:05:37] Which is the DMK in term of vote share among the female
[1:05:41] And in our poll male member among the male member it was at par with DMK
[1:05:47] Sir you are waiting for the cake
[1:05:49] You are waiting for the cake
[1:05:50] You are waiting for the cake
[1:05:51] You are waiting for the cake
[1:05:52] You are waiting for the cake
[1:05:53] I think Axis Ma India and Pradeep Gupta really deserve a cake
[1:05:56] And it's
[1:05:57] It's
[1:05:58] So
[1:06:00] Mance
[1:06:01] Here
[1:06:02] That came
[1:06:03] Now
[1:06:04] Your panel
[1:06:05] Missed
[1:06:06] Here
[1:06:07] You are
[1:06:08] And
[1:06:09] Imagine people are laughing the polling as being bogus etc
[1:06:13] The fact that they've got this right is very very incredible
[1:06:16] This can't be a fluke
[1:06:18] This can't be a fluke. This is what my core belief has been for a very long time.
[1:06:22] You can get some polls wrong, but you can't get this kind of a result unless you have done real polls.
[1:06:27] Let them celebrate. Let them celebrate. Let's talk to them.
[1:06:30] Hooray!
[1:06:31] Look, take this dance. Take this dance.
[1:06:57] No, but Pradeep ji, that's not gonna work. Veera has the move.
[1:07:08] Veera, please.
[1:07:09] Pradeep, wait, wait. You have to do the Vijay. This is the victory of Vijay.
[1:07:15] Can't do some non-Vijay move, Pradeep.
[1:07:17] Pradeep, I wish I was not in a dhoti.
[1:07:21] Yes, Pradeep gone.
[1:07:26] Pradeep ji, can you hear us?
[1:07:32] Noise at the back. Give us a moment. We said that, right?
[1:07:39] You also write about the big VIPs trailing in Chennai.
[1:07:44] Yeah, yeah.
[1:07:45] And the fact that Assam has gone the BJP's way.
[1:07:48] You know the best part about it is honestly this, right?
[1:07:52] Pradeep and I, I also messaged Pradeep. He said it's a surprise verdict.
[1:07:56] It's going to be excitement all day long.
[1:07:58] At the end, after it was released, there were multiple people calling and asking me multiple questions about his caste data, etc.
[1:08:03] So, you know, I think the beauty is that he had data.
[1:08:07] He believed that Vijay was going to win, but it takes a lot of guts because, you know, every one of us who traveled heard Vijay, Vijay, Vijay everywhere.
[1:08:16] But a lot of us felt, okay, no, it may not. Why risk? Why is this possible?
[1:08:21] You know, so I think the fact that he risked it out.
[1:08:24] Okay, so we want to go across live to one of the key campaigners of the BJP in West Bengal and elsewhere.
[1:08:30] Smriti Irani now joins us, senior BJP leader, understands Bengali really well, spoke.
[1:08:36] We saw her campaign. She was out and about.
[1:08:38] Smriti Ji, welcome. We were whistling for Vijay in Tamil Nadu.
[1:08:41] But I think the key thing is, in the Nagar national political context, 190 wins and leads for the BJP.
[1:08:48] Saffron blooming in a state where people thought for long the BJP could never win.
[1:08:53] Many, many congratulations.
[1:08:55] Well, the congratulations is due to my leadership.
[1:08:58] That state composed irrespective of the violence which was brought upon BJP Karakartas.
[1:09:04] The congratulations is genuinely due to Karakartas who really, really worked hard.
[1:09:09] But also, this is a very poignant moment, Rahul, for us to pay homage to the BJP Karakartas that died due to post-pol violence.
[1:09:18] Many female victims of violence, especially those who were raped, molested, publicly stripped,
[1:09:24] because they had the political conviction to sit and work for the BJP at the booth level, at the block level,
[1:09:32] in especially rural parts of Bengal.
[1:09:35] Today is also a moment to give thanks to that quintessential Bangali that looked upon Modi as the harbinger of good governance.
[1:09:45] It is very easy to speak of this Rahul in safe confines of one's home or one's studio.
[1:09:51] But it is extremely difficult when you have gundas fraud all over who are threatening you with death,
[1:09:58] who are threatening you with rape of family, female members.
[1:10:02] So, today is genuinely a day to give thanks to that Bengali voter,
[1:10:06] that irrespective of threats, irrespective of display of violence,
[1:10:10] and a history of violence that was instrumentalized by the TMC as a weapon of state.
[1:10:16] It is a day to give thanks to them.
[1:10:19] My colleague, Manogia Loewal has a question for you. Manogia.
[1:10:22] Yes.
[1:10:23] When you went to Bengal, you were termed as a Bahira Gato and you replied in Bangla.
[1:10:28] What are you, sir?
[1:10:31] There are Indian people.
[1:10:33] I think that they were trying to do the same thing that we have to do the same thing and make it in politics.
[1:10:40] But the question was,
[1:10:43] Thank you very much.
[1:11:13] Thank you very much.
[1:11:44] And under that shadow of literal death, for the Karakartas to hold strong, for the voter to hold steady, for the support ecosystem to be consistent, that I think is, and I've had the, I can't even call it a privilege, but I've had the, I can't even call it good fortune.
[1:12:04] I went to many ramparts of rural Bengal post the last assembly election.
[1:12:10] I looked into the eyes of the victims of violence.
[1:12:13] I met with women who were raped and told,
[1:12:17] If you have looked at victims of rape and violence,
[1:12:30] I have been sort of exchanging messages for the last two weeks on this, whether or not it will be a decisive mandate and that's what we agreed on, that other winds have changed strong enough.
[1:12:40] Now that this has happened, I think the responsibility is huge because Bengal, you know, each one of us have kind of moved on from Bengal.
[1:12:49] Some of us have gone back with the perception that are we doing the right thing?
[1:12:54] Can you reassure each one of us, Bengalis, that now, at least for the next five years, there will be change, constructive change.
[1:13:02] People will have opportunity, whether it's jobs, whether it's safety, whether it's anti-corruption, in every sphere.
[1:13:08] We've exchanged messages on sport, but that's for a different place.
[1:13:10] Mr. Mojumdar, it is fascinating that you've never asked this guarantee of any other politician but a BJP politician.
[1:13:17] It is fascinating that we did not find voice of discontent shrieking through every news studio when women and men were being killed just for holding the BJP flag.
[1:13:29] I think more than anything else, it is the people of West Bengal today who have responded as to whether the BJP can be depended upon to deliver on issues of good governance.
[1:13:39] And if anything else, it is the BJP's track record that has been evidenced under Prime Minister Modi's leadership,
[1:13:45] which today the Bengali voters guarantee, that this is the man, this is the institution that will be the harboringer of change.
[1:13:54] I think the question before yours was how different and how difficult a day this is for us.
[1:14:02] Imagine that to be called Boyragato for a political organization that has had one of its stalwarts emanating from the state of West Bengal,
[1:14:11] to have a leadership that was composed when people who support the party were getting killed.
[1:14:18] So, if you want assurances, Mr. Mojumdar, it is Prime Minister Modi who created Janthan Yojana,
[1:14:23] so that the money from the Indian Treasury can flow directly to the bank accounts of those who need it the most.
[1:14:29] And it is that promise of DBT, it is that promise of good governance that people have believed in.
[1:14:34] And that is what has delivered a historic, I think, mandate today.
[1:14:39] Mr. Swithirani, I was reading some of the comments once the trend started coming in.
[1:14:43] And one prominent commentator said, and this is how the dominoes fall.
[1:14:49] Another state has fallen victim to the rampaging communal machine of the BJP.
[1:14:55] This is the end of West Bengal, the place which was a melting pot of all cultures as we knew it.
[1:15:01] How would you respond?
[1:15:02] You cannot say raping of women is a part of anybody's culture.
[1:15:06] You cannot say that cut money is a part of anybody's culture.
[1:15:10] You cannot say support for illegal immigrants is anybody's culture.
[1:15:14] You cannot say heckling a rape victim's mother on the streets of Kolkata is anybody's culture.
[1:15:20] You cannot say women are raped.
[1:15:21] The chief minister of the state says, why should women get out of their houses to begin with?
[1:15:25] It is not anybody's culture.
[1:15:27] So these people who had these lofty opinions about culture need to answer as to why they held their peace.
[1:15:34] And why did they say silent when people were being slaughtered only because they had a public and political opinion?
[1:15:40] Why did they keep quiet when in Falda you saw people coming out and hordes saying that they are being literally threatened with the rape of female members of their family?
[1:15:50] Where were these so-called people who today are repining online?
[1:15:54] It is their death knell which the Bengali voters have assured.
[1:15:58] When did these people speak up?
[1:16:00] When judicial officers were being held hostage in Malda.
[1:16:04] When did they speak up?
[1:16:05] When the money for flood victims was being usurped by TMC Gunders.
[1:16:09] So instead of responding to their vile commentary, I think it is best that we focus on the Bengali voter today that has voted in the pucks of good governance.
[1:16:20] My compliments, Rahul, in your presence.
[1:16:23] I would like to compliment the effort that even Padmaja undertook as a female professional.
[1:16:29] I think it is extremely joyful to see somebody who is so succinct and so hardworking and especially it traverses the entire landscape.
[1:16:37] Wow.
[1:16:37] Wow.
[1:16:38] Wow.
[1:16:38] Wow.
[1:16:39] Wow.
[1:16:39] Wow.
[1:16:40] Wow.
[1:16:41] Wow.
[1:16:42] Wow.
[1:16:43] Wow.
[1:16:44] Wow.
[1:16:45] Wow.
[1:16:46] Wow.
[1:16:47] Wow.
[1:16:48] Wow.
[1:16:49] Wow.
[1:16:50] Wow.
[1:16:51] Wow.
[1:16:52] Wow.
[1:16:53] Wow.
[1:16:54] Wow.
[1:16:55] Wow.
[1:16:56] Wow.
[1:16:57] Wow.
[1:16:58] Wow.
[1:16:59] Wow.
[1:16:59] Wow.
[1:16:59] Wow.
[1:17:00] Wow.
[1:17:02] Wow.
[1:17:03] Wow.
[1:17:04] Wow.
[1:17:05] Wow.
[1:17:06] Wow.
[1:17:07] That was a parakastha of violent arrogance.
[1:17:13] That the Home Minister of India gets threatened that the President of India gets heckled and
[1:17:19] is accorded disrespect.
[1:17:20] That judicial officers are held hostage.
[1:17:23] That paramilitary forces are heckled and they try to humiliate Election Commission of India.
[1:17:30] So, it's not only the voter of Bengal that was humiliated and violence was wrecked upon them.
[1:17:36] Institution after institution was being eroded.
[1:17:40] The state government, TMC, used violence as a political weapon and institutionalized it.
[1:17:49] Shiv Arud has a quick final question before we let you go, ma'am.
[1:17:51] So, Smriti ji, congratulations.
[1:17:54] You know, you played a part in Bengal as well and your party has performed incredibly well according to these numbers.
[1:17:59] You know, the Trinamon has always been very contemptuous and dismissive of the BJP when it comes to the Mahila vote, to the women's vote.
[1:18:09] They've projected themselves as the custodians and the arbiters of the women's vote in Bengal.
[1:18:15] We saw you campaigning, ma'am, for the RG Corr victim's mother as well.
[1:18:20] You know, that was a telling moment.
[1:18:22] Do you believe that that incident in some ways was a tipping point as far as how the Trinamon or the authorities in the state were perceived?
[1:18:34] I think that Shiv was not the only incidence.
[1:18:38] I went to places like Ulubaria, like Para, Purulia, where you had people know every nuance of what had happened to every rape victim,
[1:18:46] every victim of violence, where people in villages spoke about how you could not do padai, as they say in Bengali,
[1:18:55] padai apni Jai Shri Ram bhakti pachanna.
[1:18:58] If you say Jai Shri Ram, you will be bullied, you will be heckled or you will be beaten.
[1:19:02] That was the reality of Bengal that the voters were dealing with.
[1:19:05] Yes, what happened to the RG Corr victim and her mother, she became a BJP candidate.
[1:19:11] Also, can you imagine, one could never imagine this conversation in Ulubaria.
[1:19:16] Anybody who understands the political landscape of Ulubaria and West Bengal knows that those are very different political spaces
[1:19:22] for anybody from the BJP to contest.
[1:19:26] There, people spoke about the havoc that was created by the TMC.
[1:19:30] What happened also on how the Trinamon Congress stood shoulder to shoulder with illegal immigrants,
[1:19:36] that too became a flashpoint or talking point amongst people.
[1:19:39] So, law and order was a huge issue, but the cut money that people in villages saw for Pradhan Mantri Awas,
[1:19:47] for issues of not only Pradhan Mantri Awas, but also issues of Mandrega, 25 lakh fake job cuts.
[1:19:55] Smitty ji.
[1:19:56] This reality did not escape any voter in Bengal.
[1:19:59] You know, we also, outside of this magnificent victory for the BJP in West Bengal,
[1:20:04] we are also joined live at this time by Pradeep Gupta from Mumbai.
[1:20:07] And I am wondering what you want to tell Pradeep, who has pulled off a magnificent pole in a state where he thought he was smoking pot.
[1:20:16] He has been able to win the exit pole battle by getting TVK right, which is a very, very difficult one to do.
[1:20:22] First, let Smitty speak to Pradeep Gupta and then I will ask him the rest of the questions.
[1:20:25] Smitty ji.
[1:20:26] I have nothing to say to any political analyst.
[1:20:29] I think my work as a karakarta is to keep focus on my leadership and what my political ideology can deliver on the ground.
[1:20:35] It is for sophologists to opine.
[1:20:37] It is for people like us to keep focus on issues on hand.
[1:20:41] One cannot say sophology is an exact science.
[1:20:44] As Pradeep ji has said, many were so threatened that they did not want to publicly voice their opinions.
[1:20:50] Many are today coming across to your cameras, to your journalists to speak about what they underwent.
[1:20:56] So it would be unfair for me to give my opinion to a sophologist of repute.
[1:21:01] And especially since sophology is not an art that I practice.
[1:21:04] Okay.
[1:21:05] We leave it there, Smitty ji.
[1:21:06] Thank you for joining us and many congratulations on the BJP's victory in West Bengal.
[1:21:09] I want to go across to Pradeep Gupta.
[1:21:11] He joins us now.
[1:21:12] Pradeep ji, you were celebrating so much so much, that the audio was not reaching for us.
[1:21:16] Our studio, all the people who were prepared with their whistles, were thinking that given how much of a bad day pollsters have got, people questioned, can we have the whistles out please?
[1:21:28] I think he deserves this, Veera, Shiv.
[1:21:31] Because there is so much, you know, as if these numbers are being conjured out of thin air.
[1:21:36] It's not.
[1:21:37] But to get TVK right in a state like Tamil Nadu really proves that there is effort on the ground.
[1:21:42] You may sometimes get it wrong, but there is effort on the ground.
[1:21:45] This was getting it right.
[1:21:46] Getting this one right was extraordinary primarily because of this.
[1:21:50] That it's an untested force.
[1:21:51] It's a new one.
[1:21:52] He's got to go by his data and he went by seat by seat.
[1:21:56] It's not just this, Rahul.
[1:21:57] Let me add, he got this right as well.
[1:21:59] He said Chennai, there is a sweep.
[1:22:01] Even the top big guns of the DMK are failing.
[1:22:04] Okay, so whistles out.
[1:22:04] We whistle for him once and then we ask him all kinds of questions.
[1:22:07] Okay, one, this is for you Pradeep Gupta and for getting TVK right in Tamil.
[1:22:12] This is not for any politician before anybody says we are.
[1:22:14] I know.
[1:22:15] Yeah, yeah, this is just for Pradeep Gupta and getting it right and doing.
[1:22:18] One, two, here.
[1:22:25] Pradeep ji, you're a city-pajri in the studio?
[1:22:33] I'm a city-pajri in the studio.
[1:22:35] I'm a city-pajri in the studio, Rahul.
[1:22:36] I'm a city-pajri in the studio, Rahul.
[1:22:59] state.
[1:23:00] 4-4 state.
[1:23:02] Access my India prediction is spot on.
[1:23:06] Chay vote share or seat share.
[1:23:10] All these things are matching in 4 states.
[1:23:14] And the fact is Tamil Nadu.
[1:23:16] In Tamil Nadu, you can see that all the polling agencies, experts, political pundits
[1:23:23] and all of them have said that TVK will be more than 10 seats.
[1:23:29] 10 seats for TVK will be more than 10 seats.
[1:23:34] And 10-15% vote share.
[1:23:38] We have 35-35% vote.
[1:23:42] TVK will be 35% vote.
[1:23:45] Our mid-range TVK will be 109 seats.
[1:23:56] You can see that there are 109 seats.
[1:23:58] And 10-120 seats.
[1:24:00] The other thing is that
[1:24:06] DMK Alliance has said that
[1:24:09] 2 numbers, 32% vote share.
[1:24:13] Seats from 1-2 seats,
[1:24:15] AIDM Alliance has said that
[1:24:18] 3-3 number.
[1:24:19] AIDM said that
[1:24:20] that is the 3-3 number.
[1:24:22] I will say that
[1:24:24] this is a good science.
[1:24:27] There is no other example.
[1:24:30] Data science.
[1:24:32] Because you have historical data
[1:24:35] not available as far as TVK goes.
[1:24:42] But,
[1:24:43] it is within 35% vote share.
[1:24:48] Exact seat predicts
[1:24:50] this is purely hard work.
[1:24:51] Excess Mindy team
[1:24:54] in the same time
[1:24:55] science
[1:24:56] which we have access to the ground
[1:24:58] to the other same team
[1:24:59] should be
[1:25:00] .
[1:25:00] which,
[1:25:01] which on 90%
[1:25:02] has been
[1:25:03] accurately called
[1:25:05] Seats,
[1:25:06] but
[1:25:07] the
[1:25:08] which,
[1:25:09] 80%
[1:25:10] have been
[1:25:11] exactly count kia abh ye ho gaya 85 mein se 78 elections hamne accurately count kia hai
[1:25:19] thank you so much i want to show our viewers the access my india poll and then compare that with
[1:25:27] the numbers on your screen so as they celebrate in mumbai and with good reason look at the
[1:25:32] predictions made by access my india why he sat out of the election in west bengal here is tamil nad
[1:25:38] uh tvk between 98 and 120 that was the prediction at the moment there are 109 seats so that's bang in
[1:25:46] the middle of his range he predicted 92 to 110 for the dmk that hasn't quite happened dmk much lesser
[1:25:53] than that around 60 he predicted 22 out of 33 for the admk now again the actual tally on your screen
[1:26:01] is much more it's 65 so pradeep ji ye bhi thoda explain kar dije tvk ka to aapka bang on hai center
[1:26:07] there is a range in hatch saw for that but dmk ka number or adm you've got the winner right but
[1:26:12] number two and number three toh kaafi a lag hai nahi bilkul rahul aapne sahi ka yadi aap abhi
[1:26:20] dekhiye ki karib 8 se 10 round ki poling hui hai 25 mein se 25 se 8 se 10 aur waha par jo
[1:26:29] woot share kariib aadhi woot count ho ga hai woot share 32 percent dmk alliance ka a raha hai joh
[1:26:34] haam nne 35 ka aadhi woot tie 32 ha raha hai joh aidmk alliance ki seatai bhali jahada dhik
[1:26:40] rhea hai hai us mei se kam se kam 25 seatai aidmk ki joh triple digit double digitse triple digit
[1:26:46] ke under mujhe wiswas ya hai ki jis party ko jyada woot share miltah hai usko jaroor seati bhi jyada
[1:26:52] You will get more seats, so you will be able to get the party DMK No. 2, like in the vote share and the AIDM No. 3.
[1:27:05] Let me show what happened in Assam. This is his prediction for Assam. Look at Assam and then we will see where things stand.
[1:27:12] This is the, you know why, because media gets pilloried, why do you show Pradeep Gupta, why do you show Access My India, this is all bogus, it's not, there is science here.
[1:27:21] Okay, here is, no just come to the seat share numbers, move out of vote share, come to seat share numbers for Assam, in Assam as well, Pradeep Gupta predicted a big win for the BJP, which is what has happened on your screen, you are seeing the numbers for Assam, 97 leads and wins for the BJP, up 27 from the last time, Congress at 27, he predicted a 37% vote share, AGP at 7, Congress at 31.
[1:27:45] Let me go across to the screen and show you, where things stand in Assam at this moment, when it comes to votes, if you look at Assam, the BJP is 50 plus in terms of vote share, of the votes that have been counted, the Congress at 34.3, that's the alliance, if you look at the BJP itself, it's 40, this is a phenomenal achievement for the BJP to be able to increase its vote share by 17% in Assam.
[1:28:12] Let's also look at Kerala, let's also look at Kerala, again in Kerala, he predicted that there will be a comfortable win for the UDF, not a tight fight, but a comfortable win and in Kerala as well, Pradeep Gupta and the team at Access My India is correct.
[1:28:25] Here is the Access My India poll from Kerala, they predicted 78 to 90 for the UDF, 49 to 60 for the UDF, on your screen right now, the Kerala numbers, let's just go across and take a look at that, is also, I am little, the studio is slippery, this is very dangerous, I just need to be a little careful, we are flying out of the frame.
[1:28:45] Ok, here it is on your screen now, the Kerala numbers, which are again very bang on, 87 for the UDF, his range is 78 to 90, so it's the upper end of the range, LDF at 49 to 62 was his range, they are at 38.
[1:29:01] But you know, this is where people, if he gets it right, that's phenomenal, you can't now do this, you want to talk about that Pradeep Gupta, that you set up expectations so high, that when LDF is at 38 and your range starts at 49 people, this is a little bit lower, this is a little bit lower, this is a little bit lower.
[1:29:18] Ok, let me show you, that's right.
[1:29:45] so the nrc at 15 down one the congress at 11 tvk at this moment in my numbers
[1:29:55] hasn't done well if you look at vote share they have picked up a lot of votes but
[1:29:59] they haven't been able to convert that into seats as far as Puducheri is
[1:30:03] concerned but what he did pick up was about 14 percent vote share is what it
[1:30:07] is showing Veera Raghav has a question no so Pradeep ji you know one thing is to
[1:30:11] get the result right the other is also to get the logic right and you you
[1:30:15] shared that you were expecting a sweep extremely well were the words you used
[1:30:19] for TVK in Chennai in South they will do well in West it's a three-way fight and
[1:30:25] in the Delta regions it's going to be DMK a DMK this was what you shared as a
[1:30:30] analysis for me if that is holding good is it fair to classify this election as
[1:30:36] urban rural young old these were the only two factors that played in this
[1:30:42] election would that be fair yes I mean firstly youth for sure second the
[1:30:51] female and third the urban and rural in fact TVK is scoring very good in even in
[1:30:58] rural also comparatively barring Chennai Chennai is a I mean they are sweeping and I
[1:31:05] also if you remember Veera said the stalwarts in Chennai city will have tough
[1:31:12] fight you can see that the present the sitting chief minister is training that's
[1:31:18] right also long time Uday Nidhi also was training for a very long time and he's
[1:31:24] just ahead who are you who are you mentioning what Pradeep who are you
[1:31:28] mentioning when you said stalwarts were trailing and losing in Chennai you told me
[1:31:32] very this one stalwarts were not doing well who did you have in mind did you think
[1:31:37] of Stalin or Uday Nidhi no definitely definitely chief minister Stalin okay
[1:31:46] definitely because we can't we can't use the name and we can't say that he
[1:31:50] somebody is losing our winning input you know by name it is not fair or ethical on
[1:31:56] our part but that's what I said the stalwart the topmost stalwart of the DMK
[1:32:03] will have the tough tension Gupta has a question for you about West Bengal
[1:32:07] Kanchanda Pradeep ji congratulations for getting Kerala and Tamil Nadu and Assam
[1:32:15] right but you you finally abandoned the West Bengal poll now what you said was
[1:32:23] that when you tried to speak to people during the first round of voting they did
[1:32:28] not give you a clear response or a clear reply now in hindsight is it because like
[1:32:37] 2011 this time it was a silent vote against the TMC and people were not
[1:32:43] willing to admit it because of the fear they had of retribution would you look at
[1:32:49] it like that yes definitely concerned other this is the case and I kept on
[1:32:57] saying that BJP is doing extraordinarily good in West Bengal but people those who
[1:33:04] haven't spoken to our surveyors and to me also I have been there it seems two
[1:33:11] third two third of the people belonging to BJP but how do how do we know this
[1:33:17] until unless they speak out and it is purely share the fear factor share the fear
[1:33:23] factor of the state government ruled TMC we were very spectacle to talk about even to
[1:33:30] say a word it okay Shiv Arur has a question for you but I kept on saying my
[1:33:36] six service my six service was sent to the dum-dum jail and they spent about 24
[1:33:44] days in dum-dum jail and we finally got the bail from Calcutta how high code no
[1:33:50] Pradeep ji Shiv Arur here first of all a huge congratulations to you on your
[1:33:55] projections in Tamil Nadu I would I would hazard to say that this is actually one of
[1:34:01] your outlier successes as a pollster even bigger than some of your previous
[1:34:07] projections in larger elections so huge applause and congratulations to you you
[1:34:11] deserve and your team deserves all the credit my question to you is about Bengal
[1:34:16] sir I know you will not comment on a report that you did not release but did
[1:34:21] this result align with what you found despite the you know non-disclosure or the
[1:34:27] non-answers that you received from the people there yes it was there and that's
[1:34:37] the reason why I mean you guys were asking me what is your gut feeling gut
[1:34:41] feeling I kept on saying that BJP is doing phenomenally good the only question
[1:34:47] because of silent water whether it is crossing the target of 150 plus kind of a
[1:34:55] situation so this was the only question and it seems about two-third of the
[1:35:00] population those who haven't spoken that time is voted in favor of BJP
[1:35:05] Veer Sanghvi has a question for you Veer when you made that prediction about
[1:35:09] Tamil Nadu you knew you were going out on a limb you were giving a candidate who
[1:35:14] nobody had given so much importance to and you were pushing him as being the big
[1:35:20] winner how brave was it was there a lot of discussion internally before you did it
[1:35:25] and part two why do you think other people missed it 9 10 so we thank you so
[1:35:34] actually our methodology is very simple we go to each and every consistency and
[1:35:41] when when were these trend were coming that TVK is leading TVK was leading that
[1:35:49] is everybody was worried about and I kept on saying to Veera he kept on calling me
[1:35:54] before the prediction I said the kind of trend coming which is super duper excited this time
[1:36:02] let's wait let's do let's let us do our analysis before we say any word to this
[1:36:10] because it was not easy that because there is no history there is no history of TVK whatever kind of
[1:36:18] vote share seat share how they are doing good where they are going doing good across the demography
[1:36:24] across the geography but all we could see that the youth 18 year of age to 39 year of age they he was
[1:36:34] scoring more than 15 percent 55 0 percent vote the other side were splitting the other 50 side
[1:36:41] votes were splitting into dmk and aidmk this was the first so you better send one of those cakes to us but in the meanwhile I want to call the chai stop in and Manogia has a question for you as the chai stop comes up it's also a good time for lunch haven't had anything since we started at 7
[1:36:59] Manogia come over and you have a question for Pradeep Gupta go for it so I have something to reveal an informal conversation an off record that I had with Pradeep Gupta and this is on paper yes so the prediction that we did before the results started we discussed this yesterday and Pradeep Ji with your permission I'm putting it on air
[1:37:26] He discussed and it was 190 plus BJP in Bengal this I was I signed he said it is somewhere around that with two-third majority can you hear us I don't think he can hear us at this moment but I'm intrigued to see that he's saying 190 plus Shiv Veera you want to come over we must get we to the chai stop that is always fascinating that's where it's supposed to be local interesting but we should teach Pradeep
[1:37:58] Pradeep the Vijay step yaar come come come this is where Kanchan Da finally gets to have some saithesho mishti he's been refusing Kanchan you can now celebrate Kanchan Da finally eat something sweet he says jab tak jeet ni jayenge tab tak kuch ni kaunga
[1:38:14] You can't be the only one there who Padman Jai is being you will dance we need some jalamuri we have curd rice and lemon rice do you want to tell everyone most importantly Deer what your food is
[1:38:28] what do you have what do you have we have
[1:38:34] wow
[1:38:38] Jalamuri
[1:38:41] jun pitta
[1:38:44] til pitta
[1:38:45] narkal naru
[1:38:46] mishti doi
[1:38:47] fish fish fry
[1:38:48] and
[1:38:49] dai puri
[1:38:50] dai puri
[1:38:51] dai puri
[1:38:52] dai puri
[1:38:54] okay so what we need to do first here if you just bring the camera give me a spoon we have to get Kanchan Da to eat some mishti doi
[1:39:00] he's been refusing he says till the time the bjp wins Kanchan Da now you can get some mishti doi
[1:39:06] no no he said i'm so i'm petrified that i don't want to jinx it therefore i will only eat when the bjp no you want your mishti doi
[1:39:13] no i'm worried he's going to have a sugar spike
[1:39:15] oh you have a sugar issue
[1:39:16] sugar
[1:39:17] okay no no then we must not get you but congratulations this is a victory that's been long in the making the parties worked very hard and emotional moment for you Kanchan Da
[1:39:25] but you know the thing is that now it seems TMC won't be crossing the three digit mark
[1:39:31] it will be it will be halted in 90s and the point which was being made by some of the people over here
[1:39:40] the sheer arrogance that had come to you know become the whole face of the TMC
[1:39:47] Abhishek stands on a public platform and dares the union of India to come take him on
[1:39:55] the manner in which Mamata Banerjee had begun to speak and something
[1:40:00] i'm open to correction but throughout the campaign
[1:40:05] neither Mamata Banerjee nor Abhishek Banerjee nor any other TMC leader
[1:40:10] ever mentioned Ma Maati Manoush
[1:40:15] they abandoned their own slogan
[1:40:17] and if you look at the list of candidates she was there she will know
[1:40:24] the first dozen odd candidates were the tainted ministers who had charges against them of thievery of this of that
[1:40:33] i mean you can't get away with this
[1:40:35] the arrogance of power can at times be just so intoxicating for those in power that they lose time
[1:40:43] Advani ji had a term for this
[1:40:45] sata martha ka nasha
[1:40:47] and wo nasha jab chad jata hai aapka patan sunish chit hai
[1:40:53] very confident of didi who's been with her for almost more than four decades five decades
[1:40:59] someone very trusted both in Delhi and Calcutta was the one who
[1:41:03] i asked him ki does she know that TMC is not faring well
[1:41:07] a very interesting sentence he said
[1:41:10] that's that that's so intriguing that a lot of people knew but no one told her or was it just the overconfidence that the party could not see and then he said a very interesting sentence he said
[1:41:24] that's true basically there is an economic theory written in 1960s by dalry which says the higher the number of people who know something is going wrong the lower is the chance that somebody will actually go and tell the boss that something is wrong
[1:41:43] that's a problem veer how is the dai pujh ka
[1:41:49] i recommend it hot really it's really good
[1:41:51] it is and unlike everything else she's making it fresh in front of us
[1:41:54] nice if veer likes it then you know congratulations well done that's a tough one to try and win
[1:42:01] no but this defeat for the secular the so called secular opposition and what and what that means for national politics veer
[1:42:09] i think it proves that the bjp in many ways outside of south india at least is unstoppable
[1:42:15] but also i mean we'll talk about this at night but i think there's always been a conflict
[1:42:20] even so called secularists have complained about the fact that mamtha has been dictatorial
[1:42:26] that there are gundas that there is a pro-muslim policy to the detriment of hindus but everybody's kept quiet about this
[1:42:33] because they felt she's the last hope of stopping the bjp so there's been this interesting little double act
[1:42:40] on the secular side saying whatever else she is at least she's anti-modi now that she's lost i think more of the truth will come out
[1:42:49] and as you travel padmaja through west bingal you need to share that padmaja is having the whole thing
[1:42:53] doi bane itti deram and padmaja has grabbed both okay no so we share okay
[1:42:58] but he recommended it how can i not try it i mean it's very caring but sharing is caring that's very important
[1:43:02] so as you travel through west bingal you also realize how impoverished the state is
[1:43:07] relative even to a place like bihar or assam at this moment and one of them is mine thank you
[1:43:12] and you're absolutely right and which is why a lot of this derision towards states like uttar pradesh and bihar
[1:43:20] bihar there is actually a lot that bengal has in common you just look at the gsdp figures uh again
[1:43:26] and again this has been spoken of the number of child marriages in west bengal are at an all-time high
[1:43:31] so it's the highest in the country uh firs are not registered and again this was i think in my limited
[1:43:40] takeaway from bengal this was an emotional election you know everyone and we spoke about it earlier there was
[1:43:47] almost the people when they spoke it was an abhi nahi toh kabhi nahi moment where people had been
[1:43:53] suffering for a variety of reasons that everyone had their own reason for some it was about crime
[1:43:58] increasing for some it was about the safety of women for some it was just the impoverished state that
[1:44:04] they were in and i say this not just you know because people are thinking this is a communal polarized
[1:44:09] election there were muslims who said you know what has been done in motabadi where that entire thing
[1:44:17] over sir happened more than sir people were saying sadak kyuni bana reho yaan pe a college banne waala
[1:44:23] ta kab banne ga yaan pe and a tmc guy was taken on by a local muslim who said ki tum me ko batao tum yaan a
[1:44:30] kar ke josaari tmc ki pervy kar rahe ho kya kya hai tum ne das saal se tumhara bataayah ke
[1:44:36] and we see this reflected in the result so everyone had their own trigger but people this time voted
[1:44:42] simply because they had had enough so this fifteen hundred three thousand all of that perhaps was
[1:44:48] secondary and you know the cherry on top but this was an emotional election which of the food is from the
[1:44:54] to be fair you said this on wednesday before the results were out yeah yeah i think you
[1:45:01] pretty much vindicated yeah and now or never this was a feeling you heard again and again
[1:45:06] we've had it we've had it we i also have this view and she agrees with me the muslim vote in
[1:45:13] bengal was split three ways this time the the indigenous bengali vote bengali muslim vote
[1:45:21] which is the you know the so-called pheasantry over there went back to the congress and the cpm
[1:45:27] that's why you find them incremental increase in their voting percentage the bangladeshi immigrant
[1:45:36] or rohingya muslim voted for trinomol congress and a lot of them actually voted for the humayun
[1:45:43] kabir's outfit he's leading in both his seats right now and i mean they may not have been able to cross
[1:45:49] the threshold of converting the votes into seats but it happened that way i think ravi shankar
[1:45:55] prasad is joining we're joined now by ravi shankar prasad ji ravi shankar ji if you were in our
[1:46:00] studio we would have given you some very nice sondesh and mishti doi and i think in the way
[1:46:06] that the bjp and the rashgulla as well so from our studios some mishti doi some rashgulla coming your
[1:46:14] way many congratulations to the bjp for this historic victory in the state of bengal ravi shankar ji
[1:46:20] well rahul do i have your indulgence to begin a lighter note of course of course you do i i am
[1:46:31] seeing your appetite for i am seeing your appetite for bengali delicacies right from the day of your
[1:46:37] campaigning there whether it is kulfi with mango or whether it is roll there and whatsoever i am
[1:46:44] very thrilled but why you were so reluctant to have even one liti in patna
[1:46:49] why is this double standard oh ravi shankar ji the liti and the mutton at your house this is a
[1:46:59] rank double standard oh how much effort i have to make to make you make you eat even one liti and here
[1:47:10] every restaurant you are enjoying all the varieties the delicacies including in your studio good keep
[1:47:19] it up therefore biharis also make good delicacies keep it in mind no no the delicacies were brilliant i
[1:47:26] just want to clarify before you pick up the wrong message that when we had gone to ravi shankar ji's house
[1:47:31] house we just had dinner before that but yes the mango kulfi and everything else we had was
[1:47:41] fantastic so you've seen the bjp struggle in bengal talk us through what this moment means
[1:47:47] for the saffron pariwar 194 leads at this moment the lotus blooming in a state where it was thought
[1:47:56] impossible for rahul let me be rahul kindly give me just two minutes today is a very emotional day
[1:48:06] for us bengal is the worst place karm bhumi of shama prashad mukharji our founder leader who sacrificed
[1:48:14] his life for the sake of country's unity he entered kashmir without permit and told his young secretary
[1:48:20] go and tell the people of india at the jammu border when he was arrested i have entered inside jammu and
[1:48:25] kashmir without a permit his young secretary that will be haribaj pai and to from there bjp is having
[1:48:35] a decisive victory is a very emotional moment for us the second thing i would like to flag today is
[1:48:42] whether it is bangin tandra whether ramakrishna paramhans or vivekananda or arvinda ghost or vipin chandrapal
[1:48:50] they in their own way resurrected the great spiritual tradition of bengal merging it with india's cultural
[1:48:58] nationalism which i am sorry to say was completely lost sight of when india became free if except the
[1:49:05] brief period of vidhan chandra and the left mercilessly finished it and mamta ji surpassed even
[1:49:13] that therefore i must name him samik bhattajarya the president of bengal bjp is a good friend
[1:49:21] we have worked together for long in the yuva morcha of the party he said he said it will be a rejection
[1:49:29] not a election simplicita and what you are saying is a rejection of all the misdeeds of mamta ji
[1:49:39] rahu babu be very clear about one thing with some experience of mine sorry please complete what
[1:49:45] you are saying ahankar kabhi nahi chalta ha ha rajneeti mein ahankar nahi chalta ha arrogance
[1:49:53] overpowering fear i am sorry she fought a great battle against the left and why she had even
[1:50:04] superseded their atrocity is something shocking and surprising kya aapne atrocity ki baat ki or aapne
[1:50:09] emotional moment ki baat ki kai saare hi states mein chunaav hota hai every state sees election but
[1:50:16] in west bengal we have seen that people actually lose lives you know simply because they decide to
[1:50:22] follow a particular ideology on this day would you want to say something to the families of the 68
[1:50:28] people who lost their lives in the post-poll violence in 2021 and subsequently in the five
[1:50:34] years that followed daviji my deep control my deep condolence to this padmaja but i have visited bengal
[1:50:44] as the leader of delegation of mps to uh inquire into the atrocity during gram panchayat elections
[1:50:51] i have seen i have gone to sandesh khali today i will let me tell you i've gone to a village
[1:50:57] where a bjp leader's family was so mercilessly attacked even a bahu who was in a family way
[1:51:05] started crying in my arms she was so badly beaten i have seen those in a tribal village we went not
[1:51:12] even a single one was there because they were threatened except one bahu i told her ekhi ni ashon
[1:51:22] all those we have seen in sandesh khali are not being allowed to go but for the crpf presence and the
[1:51:29] moment we went there thousands of villagers came crying to us there was fear there was atrocity there
[1:51:37] was terror in the hinterland of bengal and our good friends the bhadra lok in calcutta they used to
[1:51:44] say kindly allow us to vote to the booth and then see the result many industrialist friend of mine have
[1:51:52] told me i will not name them and you all have must have seen it today it's a matter of great pride
[1:52:03] that people of bengal have spoken the pm the trust on pm leadership bharosa on modiji an extraordinary
[1:52:12] management and assurance of courage given by amish shaji to all the people we are with you and a trust
[1:52:21] i think a test also of that all this is combined together ravi shankarji shivaroor here first of
[1:52:28] all a big congratulations to you and your party sir uh my question to you is about you know the language
[1:52:35] that the trinamul has often used about outsiders about biharis in particular disparaging terms have
[1:52:43] been used like gutkha eaters have come to you know defile the culture of bengal what would you say
[1:52:50] you are from bihar sir what would you say to those prominent faces in the trinamul who used that kind of
[1:52:56] language today what is the message to them my reply is very simple who are talking about it who cry horse
[1:53:08] ki samvidhan khatre mein hai an indian constitution permits one citizenship and the constitutional
[1:53:15] fundamental right of the people to settle anywhere they were talking about it but why bihari only have
[1:53:23] they spared the media have they spared the judiciary by the way how many judicial officers were get out and
[1:53:30] kept in bandak for seven hours but for a strong language by the supreme court to beat the media beat the
[1:53:38] people beat in some way the judiciary what used to happen by trinamul lawyers in calcutta high court the
[1:53:45] calcutta high court used to say sorry we cannot hear this case all these things are so well known therefore
[1:53:53] it was fear everywhere and a lady leader who has fought so aggressively against the fear of left surpassed
[1:54:01] even that ugly terror i'm i'm i'm very i'm i'm very mr vidas in the bhajbhai government and she could
[1:54:13] dissent like this is a matter of great shock but people have spoken and it is a matter of great moment
[1:54:19] that bengal today is going for a tectonic shift we're very happy about it uh ravishankar prasad sir veera
[1:54:27] raghav here let's just go beyond west bengal alone two major regional forces which have dominated the
[1:54:34] opposition the tmc and the dmk have been undone today dmk of course undone by the vijay factor in
[1:54:40] tamil nad what's the big national import these are two regional parties which define themselves as
[1:54:46] custodians of that regional identity and have said that the narrative that they had constantly uh you
[1:54:54] know used was that they were the barriers to the bjp from entering those states what's the big national
[1:55:01] take away both for the opposition and for the regional versus national narrative that's been
[1:55:05] built in this country well that's a very good question it is again a reflection of the changing
[1:55:16] mood of india aspirational india is rising enough of regional sentiment if you can't deliver good
[1:55:26] governance tata bye-bye if you can't give a good civil life of development tata bye-bye that is very
[1:55:36] important and you know how i see india i've been in charge of tamiladu also i've worked in bengal also
[1:55:43] this great change which is happening in which television has played a role films have played a
[1:55:48] role uh social media has played a role people are realizing who we are and people are realizing
[1:55:58] we are also aspirational and if we are the regional forces that try to kill the aspirational
[1:56:05] constructive instinct you go to hell with it that is how i see it it's a very healthy sign with the
[1:56:11] country okay healthy science before i hand the phone over to you stay they're most welcome okay
[1:56:18] before i hand the i hand the mic over to manogya quick question do you believe that the rise of
[1:56:23] vijay means since you've been in charge of tamil nad i'm asking does that is that not great news for the
[1:56:29] bjp to regain itself in tamil nad build itself do you believe another force has taken over the regional space
[1:56:36] this opportunity that is a naughty question okay we will keep it for the we will we will keep it
[1:56:46] for a reply on some good cup of tea i just wanted to ask you on what is your take on the win that bjp
[1:56:56] has had vis-a-vis the loss of tmc why i'm asking this is this is perhaps historic and what does this
[1:57:04] history in making mean for you as a leader who's been multiple times to west bengal in the past also
[1:57:14] you know manogya first of all you must understand you have followed bengal
[1:57:18] politics quite closely i know that manogya you cannot discount the hard work which the bjp
[1:57:24] organization has done the rss people the bjp worker the suffering i remember in north bengal also
[1:57:32] i have visited today today is the day for me to salute the sacrifice of all those workers
[1:57:52] joining us really appreciate you taking out time ravish anka prasad senior leader of the bjp talking
[1:58:11] about a historic victory for the bjp in west bengal and in assam i'm joined by shorbanda sonowal
[1:58:18] comes from the state of assam and played an important role in the campaign on the ground i
[1:58:23] want to go across to the the data file leaderboard to give you a sense of where things stand in assam
[1:58:29] mr sonowal welcome you've been able to bring the bjp back to power in assam in a very very significant
[1:58:37] way uh winning a majority by itself the bjp at 99 seats in its alliance and the bjp by itself at 81
[1:58:47] this is history in a state where many thought that the bjp originally could never win many
[1:58:52] congratulations mr sonowal thank you thank you and like particularly for this victory we sincerely
[1:59:04] extend our heartfelt gratitude to the people of assam because of their sympathy support because
[1:59:12] of kindness and blessing and we could able to achieve this particular target and i believe in the
[1:59:19] whatever like in the last 11 years under the leadership of honorable prime minister narendra
[1:59:24] bodhiji good work has been done in the state of assam and also under the leadership in the state of
[1:59:32] dr himantabhi sasarma as a chief minister so people of assam every section of the people of assam got
[1:59:39] justice social justice and equal economic upliftment and that is why they firmly believe that if bjp is there
[1:59:48] peace is there progress is there prosperity is there dignity is there and particularly the people of
[1:59:54] assam their identity land the culture their heritage their like language and pretty above all their self
[2:00:04] perspective everything will be well protected and with this firm belief they have again brought bjp back
[2:00:11] to power one of the highlights of the victory of the bjp in assam is the complete decimation of the
[2:00:18] congress in upper assam the land which used to be the bastion of tarun gogoy now the congress winning
[2:00:24] only two seats over there the bjp at 33 so much so that gaurav gogoy lost on his own seat gaurav gogoy
[2:00:32] losing what's the message the man who led the campaign you tried to make this happen in uh jorahat in
[2:00:39] the in the lok sabha election it didn't happen then it's happened now hitendranath goswami of the bjp
[2:00:47] winning against gaurav gogoy the man who was leading the congress's charge mr sonobal look
[2:00:56] congress is a lost credible force here because in the last 55 years of their regime whatever misdeed
[2:01:03] they have committed to the people of assam and ultimately whatever corrupt practices whatever like
[2:01:09] like you know wrongdoing they did and ultimately which has resulted assam to stay in the back foot
[2:01:16] and because of their all kind of you know misdeed that is why the people of assam will never excuse
[2:01:24] them never forgive them this particular like you know blunder they have committed they will have to
[2:01:32] face the penalty and that is why this time also people of assam have totally rejected them their
[2:01:38] congress and its allies and they know that if congress comes again corruption will come congress
[2:01:44] comes there will unrest will come congress comes like broken of the line of the situation and congress
[2:01:50] comments like a sense of insecurity to the life of the people so that is why people of assam for the
[2:01:56] greater interest of the state and the country denounced congress and its allies and brought back bgp for the
[2:02:03] third time and it is a massive mandate and padmaja joshi has a question for you minister padmaja
[2:02:10] it
[2:02:18] on a serious note i want to ask you you know uh tarun gogoi was the
[2:02:51] doyen of the congress in assam the fact that gaurav gogoi loses in a place like jore hart
[2:03:00] what happens to the legacy of mr gogoi and the congress in assam look like gaurav gogoi being
[2:03:13] the leaders of the congress party he did have connection with the commoners in the state of
[2:03:20] assam so he doesn't understand the local sentiment local like you know kind of people's
[2:03:28] expectation because he didn't have uh interactive session with the commoners like the poor and the
[2:03:36] youth and also the like farmers and tea labors because in this state of assam if you want to
[2:03:43] create ground then you will have to have strong basis strong support so he was only confined with
[2:03:50] the congress leadership that was it was a top heavy it was a kind of top heavy that is why they
[2:03:56] have failed ship ship has a question from the minister ship mr sonowal uh uh you know the assam
[2:04:04] was one of the uh elections where most people were predicting things would go a certain way
[2:04:12] but i want your sense of what you think the national impact of these five elections is going to be
[2:04:18] particularly uh tamiladu and bengal what what according to you is the big national picture
[2:04:24] what has changed there are many many important agenda to be landed on the ground for the better
[2:04:38] meant of the people of the country and for the speedy growth of the west bengal and tamil nadu the
[2:04:48] people of both the state have decided to bring like you know bjp and also trying to give space they
[2:04:57] they understand that whatever like exemplary initiative honorable prime minister has taken
[2:05:03] in the last 11 years it is always helping the poorest of poor all section of this society
[2:05:09] and all part of the country sabka sabka because manogia has one last question for you manogia
[2:05:17] the performance of aiudf in the state raises uh worries uh for a lot of other political parties also
[2:05:23] and of course congress the way they performed what is your take on it for both congress as well as the
[2:05:28] performance of aiudf does it come to an end for the party yeah yeah whether it is congress or air
[2:05:37] they are the protector of illegal migrant illegal migrant yeah bangladi se ghush pitiya ke liye
[2:05:46] you donno party party party but i they is k janta ke liye nahi this liye desh ke janta
[2:05:52] ne uns ko nakar yeah okay we've got some information coming in shiv on government formation
[2:06:02] uh for the tvk and tamil nadu shiv government formation if the party gets a majority uh you
[2:06:09] know obviously the tvk is still being cautious about this but this is a big nd tv inside track on what the
[2:06:17] next steps are going to be remember look at the numbers right now 108 for the tvk 65 for the dmk 60 for
[2:06:24] the admk just short of that magic figure uh vasuda political editor who has called it right from
[2:06:31] the beginning on the vijay factor once again breaking this important piece of news government
[2:06:37] formation on the seventh if that majority is achieved vasuda what are the details uh what what
[2:06:46] we know is that it's going to happen but yes uh what we also know is that vijay uh the tvk chief
[2:06:52] is also not ready to uh sort of you know come out of his house right now because he's waiting for
[2:06:56] all the finalities all the formalities to be complete he wants to be very sure of the numbers
[2:07:00] uh shiv and rahul and i think that's why all these fans who have come to uh you know panayur tvk office
[2:07:07] are also waiting to hear from him and they've been told that he would be here uh somewhere around
[2:07:13] 7 to 8 pm today let me just get you a glimpse of that question that you were asking me what kind
[2:07:18] of a chief minister do you think vijay is going to be so when vijay you know started campaigning he
[2:07:23] wanted to meet people he wanted to be on the streets what he has promised is he will actually
[2:07:27] go to every nuke and corner of tamil nadu and that's what we are expecting he he will be a
[2:07:31] accessible chief minister even the party office is not open how do you how do you expect the chief
[2:07:36] minister to be access we always need to hope for the you know exclusive at this time to the union
[2:07:41] information and broadcasting minister it minister ashwani vaishnav now joining us live at this time minister
[2:07:48] vaishnav welcome you played a role in the bjp's campaign in west bengal traveling often to the
[2:07:54] state the bjp 193 in a state that people thought was impossible for the bjp to win minister vaishnav
[2:08:01] welcome sir congratulations to you and congratulations to the people of bengal how do you think this
[2:08:09] happened and why given the fact that mamtha banerji tried as hard as she could to hold off against the
[2:08:15] saffron surge to what do you attribute this big victory minister three big factors one big factor
[2:08:22] was the atrocities on women which was so clearly visible during all the visits and during all the
[2:08:28] feedbacks that we were getting huge amount of atrocities on women um it was quite common for
[2:08:35] women to be intimidated their men folk being badly treated so many so many things for there
[2:08:43] rg khar and sandesh khali were bigger phenomenons but it was so widespread that people across the state
[2:08:50] were kind of trying to find a way out of this second big thing was major lack of development
[2:09:00] each and every project was kind of stranded look at the case of kolkata metro to complete the kolkata
[2:09:06] metro we wanted to fast forward it but the state government tmc government first they went to the
[2:09:14] high court when they lost the case in the high court they went to the supreme court to stop the metro
[2:09:19] project in kolkata i mean that kind of approach towards development was something which was so
[2:09:25] visible hundreds of projects in the state were stranded because there was no cooperation from the state
[2:09:30] government that was the second thing third thing our prime minister's clear leadership and the kind of
[2:09:38] work that is happening in the entire country that was now a clear benchmark for the people of bengal
[2:09:45] what they are missing they could understand now so these factors together have brought this
[2:09:50] my colleague padmaja joshi has a question for you minister sir good afternoon many congratulations
[2:09:56] you yourself come from odisha and at the beginning of the campaign the prime minister said
[2:10:02] ang bang kaling ab ang b bang b or kaling b all three will have your government and all three have
[2:10:11] suffered for quite a few years what's your immediate agenda for the state of west bengal uh restore
[2:10:20] law and order very important to restore law and order break all those gangsters which are trying to
[2:10:26] rule the um rule the state and do all those atrocities on women especially that has to be broken third
[2:10:35] bring back the state on path of development particular you know business has suffered there were a lot of
[2:10:42] uh people who are in business in construction they keep worrying about and one word that one heard
[2:10:47] constantly is chakri we need work how does that happen in a place where you know we remember single
[2:10:56] we remember nandigram so how do you reconcile the two industries were hounded away from west bengal
[2:11:04] because of multiple factors syndicates cut money the kind of the kind of law and order situation which was
[2:11:11] there in bengal it was palpable that people are people have to leave the state for jobs
[2:11:17] now that will change all right i think uh shiv has a question yeah minister vaishnav a huge
[2:11:24] congratulations nice to see you again you know as minister uh leading many of our tech sectors bengal
[2:11:32] has uh uh conspicuously been lagging on many industrial parameters what is your vision there's a huge
[2:11:39] young base there a big you know a large potential workforce there for tech ai what would be your
[2:11:46] message to them now sir they will be very hopeful see the state of assam got a semiconductor plant
[2:11:53] because the kind of government the proactive government which is there they got a semiconductor
[2:11:57] plant imagine the electronics manufacturing ecosystem getting developed in assam that is the kind
[2:12:03] of potential our country has today uh we are now net exporters of electronic components and
[2:12:10] and electronic equipment we have almost 25 lakh people employed in electronics manufacturing
[2:12:17] and bengal was losing out on all these opportunities because the state government did not want any
[2:12:22] industry all these things will change now ashwaneji just one more question and i am very curious about
[2:12:28] this because you know you are considered a a a a a bit of an outsider as far as politics is concerned
[2:12:34] because you're much more thoughtful bengal was a place where it was a very high voltage high octane
[2:12:40] campaign where very uh you know fiery inflammatory things were being said as part of the political
[2:12:46] narrative for someone like you what did it feel like being in that battlefield sir if you were there
[2:12:53] and raul was also there in one of the editors meeting yeah about a month back or maybe one and a half
[2:12:59] months back i had very categorically told all of you that we'll win with 170 plus seats you did the reason
[2:13:05] for that that kind of conviction was that people had made a decision people were very clear they
[2:13:10] want to change they were very clear what they were missing out they were very clear that the atrocities
[2:13:16] on women must end they were very clear that bengal must get back onto the path of development
[2:13:22] bhai se bharusa is the transition which is happening now bhai se mukti is the victory uh being depicted now
[2:13:30] manogia has a question manogia namaste ashwini just a small question there are a lot of railway
[2:13:37] projects that have been pending including the metro project of the city itself and the timings that were
[2:13:42] to be changed for kolkata what should the city and the state expect as the first three things from your
[2:13:48] ministry in railways as well as inba first bullet train will take to sinigori that's the first big project
[2:13:56] will take from patna to sinigori the bullet train second kolkata metro we will now complete because
[2:14:02] as i told the tmc government went all the way to supreme court to stop the project and now that
[2:14:09] factor will be out so we'll be able to complete the kolkata metro third there are about about 80 plus
[2:14:16] projects which are pending in the state because the state government was saying no to those projects
[2:14:21] now we'll be able to start many of those projects thank you so much but you have many problems like this is
[2:14:25] the only state which has the land sealing act still mantriji this is also a state where incentives
[2:14:30] are given and the incentives are taken back so they're serious there's also a problem with very
[2:14:35] small fragmented land holdings and therefore the challenge with land acquisition how does the bjp
[2:14:40] intend to deal with these structural issues when it comes to industrializing bengal where there is a
[2:14:46] will there is a way it's possible to do things if the intent is right if the if the if the will is
[2:14:54] there that it's possible to do things you have seen how chennapp could be built by prime minister
[2:14:59] modiji's government you have seen the most complex projects have which have been delivered in the last
[2:15:05] decade it's a question of willpower it's a question of political will sir what do you make of the results
[2:15:12] in chennai vijay superstar winning close to a full majority as you process the victories in tamilnad and
[2:15:20] in a in assam and in west bengal what do you make of tamilnad in case of railway projects we had only
[2:15:28] three states where states were opposing the projects kerala i mean keralam tamilnadu and west bengal all
[2:15:35] the three places the governments have lost so sir as you make that point uh you know this is the last
[2:15:46] decade has been defined by this uh uh you know antagonistic battle between the state and the center
[2:15:54] especially opposition states like tamilnad whether it's the language policy etc do you believe that
[2:15:59] a new force uh would would perhaps make a fresh start uh what's your sense is it optimism or are you
[2:16:06] skeptical about the new force that's coming too far a lot of this uh what you call the large number of
[2:16:16] conventional uh political parties they were trying to basically put it in different a versus b
[2:16:26] it was a kind of you know that adversarial relation in politics was being created by conventional
[2:16:33] political parties if you if you talk to the young if you talk to the young people there is a unanimous
[2:16:40] need for development there is a unanimous consensus for taking india to the next level growing economy
[2:16:48] creating more opportunities you know that that entire spirit that aspirational india which is there
[2:16:55] among the youngsters that is that is universal i think that spirit which is winning now and that
[2:17:02] that that old politics of uh putting one against the other is going away thanks rahul thank you so
[2:17:08] much thank you so much really appreciate you taking our time ashwini vaishnavji many congratulations on this
[2:17:14] big victory and uh you know the lotus blooming in a state canchandava it was thought impossible is a big
[2:17:20] victory this is a significant day in the annals of the bjp's history you know i was just thinking in a
[2:17:26] way in a manner of speaking this is homecoming for the bjp uh it is it has sort of won an election in a
[2:17:38] state where the idea of a hindu political party political organization took shape and i'm not
[2:17:49] referring to either the bjp or the janusang but the hindu mahasabha and people forget but in the elections
[2:17:57] subsequent to 1952 the hindu mahasabha would win seats in bengal and one of them was famously nirmal
[2:18:07] chatterjee father of uh somnath chatterjee the great marxist leader can i just for a moment go
[2:18:15] across to harsh goinka he's joining us now he's put out a post earlier today saying industrialists are
[2:18:21] thrilled with uh the result his family comes from kolkata they left one part of the family still
[2:18:28] there he's moved now to mumbai and elsewhere mr goinka welcome uh do you want to summarize what you
[2:18:34] think is the feeling amongst business communities families like yours that trace their roots to
[2:18:39] kolkata and how you process this result in west bengal mr goinka i've spoken to a lot of business
[2:18:46] men today and there is a general sense of euphoria that uh it's great news for uh this the business
[2:18:54] community there will be a shift from welfare politics and goal to sustainable economic development in the
[2:19:02] state there is a general feeling that now there will be an industrial revival and there has been a
[2:19:09] fair amount of migration that has taken place uh there would be a reversal of that and for growth
[2:19:17] one needs uh less of local tensions and societal cohesion which will come and more important is there
[2:19:26] is a lot of entrepreneurship within the the bengal community and i think startups entrepreneur and
[2:19:35] and msavs will get a lot of boost uh one found a lot of uh resistance from what is known in
[2:19:46] bengal as syndicates i am sure there will be greater law and order and uh and and and more more jobs i think
[2:19:55] it's extremely important to have the migration uh uh reversal so all in all the entire business
[2:20:02] community seems to be absolutely uh delighted what would you like to change what would you like should
[2:20:08] change in west bengal with the new government coming to power mr goinka i think the entire uh
[2:20:17] the focus on economic development on industry something that i i hope that will happen it has been
[2:20:25] neglected in the last several years and i would say several decades once the cpm came in uh and then
[2:20:32] singur happened somehow or the other uh the bengal never got sick got its brand back as uh which it
[2:20:42] was the and i hope that the glorious days of the past come back to bengal it has lost the race to so
[2:20:48] many other states like maharashtra gujarat tamil naidu etc mr goinka it is so poignant that you
[2:20:54] mentioned shingur because uh this was a seat that was continuously held by the trinamol congress it
[2:21:00] catapulted mamata banerji to the chief minister's chair and today the tmc has lost on this seat
[2:21:07] decharam manna who was the right hand man of mamata banerji in the shingur agitation he's lost this seat
[2:21:14] do you think in that sense bengal has come a full circle in the verdict today uh absolutely right
[2:21:21] it has come a full circle and and and people in bengal are looking for employment they are looking
[2:21:29] for uh better opportunities better economic growth so uh it's a
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