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"He's one of the sharpest voices in the Democratic Party who helped propel Bill Clinton to the White House in 1992 and coined one of the most iconic phrases in politics. Stay focused. Talk about things that matter to people. You know, it's the economy, stupid. We are joined now by the raging Cajun..."
[0:01] He's one of the sharpest voices in the Democratic Party who helped propel Bill Clinton to the White
[0:05] House in 1992 and coined one of the most iconic phrases in politics. Stay focused. Talk about
[0:12] things that matter to people. You know, it's the economy, stupid. We are joined now by the
[0:19] raging Cajun Democratic strategist, Mr. James Carville, to break down the latest primaries.
[0:25] So 34 years ago, you pointed out how important the economy was. Is it still the economy, stupid?
[0:32] 34 years later? And if so, why does the president seem to be focused so much on on overseas issues?
[0:41] Well, it always is. And people get frustrated by it. And people have economic interactions. I don't
[0:48] know, 50 times a day from the time you get up in the morning, you go to the store, you get gas,
[0:52] you order something online, you pay tuition, about a thousand different things. And he's bored with it
[1:00] because he can't do anything about it. And he's in a trap because usually the issues that cause
[1:05] bad economies are convoluted and sometimes out of your control. This is directly, he invaded Iran
[1:11] and gas prices went up, I don't know, 56 percent, 56 cents. And so, yeah, he doesn't want to talk
[1:17] about it. But he's not the only one in the conversation. The Democrats can bring it front
[1:22] and center all they want.
[1:23] And let's turn to your home state of Louisiana, the results of the GOP Senate primary. Of course,
[1:28] Senator Bill Cassidy didn't even make it, make the runoff to defend his own seat. Were you surprised?
[1:36] No, not really. I was a little bit surprised. One of the things that really happened was there was a
[1:42] very high black turnout. This is the first time we've gone to Post since Calais. In a big election
[1:48] tomorrow, I would point out to your viewers, is the Georgia Supreme Court. I'm going to be keeping
[1:53] my own that. There are two seats. It's a general election. It's a statewide. It's the swingiest
[1:58] swing state you can imagine. It's critical. And I think people would be well informed to pay
[2:03] attention to what happens in Georgia tomorrow night.
[2:06] And what does the result mean for someone like Thomas Massey Tuesday night in Kentucky?
[2:10] You know, the guy is, he's, I'll say he is, he's not your typical Washington politician.
[2:19] And they're bringing a lot of heat and a lot of money against him. My guess is, I have a lot of
[2:25] friends in Kentucky. I was back at the Kentucky Derby, as you know. And that's the problem. My guess
[2:32] is, I don't have any polling or anything, but generally the anti-Trump Republicans are losing
[2:37] primaries. But if he loses, it won't be about that much, I don't think. He's a compelling
[2:42] different guy. I'll give him that.
[2:44] You've seen redistricting play out in Louisiana and across the South. Will House Republicans
[2:49] come out ahead from this?
[2:52] You know, it's a very good question. But when you're getting ready to have a monster year,
[2:55] people are more and more confident that the Texas redistricting may end up hurting them.
[3:01] And the thing you've got to remember, you can create the Supreme Court, unless you do
[3:05] be as political and as racial as you want to be, but you can't create more Republican districts
[3:10] unless you poach Republicans from other districts. And when you're facing a really bad year like
[3:16] they're facing, the losses for this year, at least, may not be nearly as big as they think.
[3:23] And remember this, the state legislature races everywhere in the country, and that's who's
[3:28] going to determine redistricting after the 2030 election. So there's a lot going on underneath
[3:35] the waterline here, is what I would say.
[3:37] Do you still think the Democrats have a chance of retaking the House of Representatives in the
[3:41] fall?
[3:43] Well, I'd bet anything, yes. I think they're a prohibitive favorite. I actually do think,
[3:48] if I look at current recent election returns in polling, I think they're going to take the Senate.
[3:53] Really?
[3:55] Oh, yes. Oh, I mean, definitely, if that time-Centra poll, I looked at it as a plus 10,
[4:02] plus 11 generic. But I look back at all of the other ones, I don't see, we're going to win seats
[4:10] like people have thought about. Like, we're going to win seats in Mississippi, probably Texas.
[4:16] We'll keep Georgia and North Carolina. We're going to win Ohio. We're going to win Ohio. Yes,
[4:21] Alaska for sure, almost for sure. They've had a good recruiting year. I'm very, very bullish on the
[4:27] Senate. Very bullish.
[4:28] The recent polling suggests that voters are frustrated with the president, but still aren't
[4:32] happy with your party. Seventy percent of voters, 44 percent of Democrats are dissatisfied with the
[4:38] party, according to one new poll. How do you turn those numbers around?
[4:42] Well, I don't like the Democratic Party because they lost. And when you lose, people do not like
[4:47] you. And people in a political party, for one reason, they want the party to win. The way to turn
[4:52] it around is stay focused, stay on message, talk about the things that we were talking about earlier
[4:58] in the show, and talk about the Epstein files. Never, ever forget that. That issue is not going
[5:05] away, and it's not going to go away. And that way, you turn the thing around. But if they come
[5:13] out and do well in November, then I'll have a positive attitude toward the Democratic Party.
[5:17] But if you call me on the phone and says, Woody, you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion
[5:21] of the Democratic Party? I can't stand them. They lost. I hate losers.
[5:24] And former Congressman Barney Frank, who was a liberal icon in Congress, is out with a new
[5:31] book arguing that the left of your party has embraced a, quote, vote-repelling platform on
[5:37] immigration, policing, and other issues. What's your take?
[5:42] If I had to name my five favorite politicians of my lifetime, Barney Frank would be in the
[5:47] top five every time. I think he is one of the wisest people that I've ever been around,
[5:54] spoken to, listened to. I think he's exactly right in the fact that Barney is in failing
[5:59] health. He's 87 years old, and he's coming out like this. This guy is going down fighting.
[6:05] He ain't going to take a knee until he's forced to. And I really think he's a valuable voice
[6:12] late in his life. I hats off to Barney.
[6:16] What do you think, lastly, the messaging needs to be from Democrats other than we're anti-Trump?
[6:22] Well, the message from Democrats is, how has this worked out for you?
[6:28] But, you know, it's one thing being anti-Trump. It's another thing that Trump is anti-consumer.
[6:35] And again, I'll come back to it. I just don't think we can let the Epstein files go. It's too
[6:41] compelling a story. There's too many unanswered questions. And, you know, sometimes when you're
[6:46] the not-encumbered party and off you, like what hit us in 94, I'm not, I don't think we got to
[6:52] beef a lot right now, other than we're against Trump. Now, come 2028, that's the time you have
[6:57] to flush this out. But generally what I'm telling the Democrats is, don't just stand there and do
[7:02] nothing. I mean, people, you're not going to get into, you don't want to get in the way of Trump
[7:09] destroying himself and destroying Republican chances. But just, oh, you got to beef something.
[7:13] You got to have a platform. You got to have three things you fall. No, not necessarily.
[7:16] Then when 28 comes out, then we have different divisions and different parts of, you know,
[7:23] constituency and party. That's the time to flush this out. But now it's not the time to be overly
[7:28] aggressive. Yeah, well, let's raise the minimum wage. Let's cut, raise taxes on wealthy people.
[7:36] Let's give working people a chance. Let's expand healthcare. Let's stop closing hospitals. That's
[7:41] good enough to go. Go with that. James Carville, always appreciate the conversation. Thank you so
[7:46] much for joining us. I love that Mr. Carville. Keep it formal.