TRENDING! I Send Out Some Legal Letters. Victor Marx's Bizarre Text To Erika Goes Viral. — Ep 342

[0:00] All right, you guys. Happy Wednesday. I know some people are not feeling too happy today [0:04] because Thomas Massey lost in Kentucky. A lot of people are asking, what's going on with our [0:09] country? Is this it? Can you just buy whatever you want? But I'm going to be positive here. I'm [0:14] going to say, look up, right? It does not mean everything. We are obviously plugged in. We see [0:20] what is going on. We are also watching them tip into that unique phase of sheer arrogance. There's [0:28] the sheer arrogance right now of the Epstein class. That's what they are. They are the Epstein [0:32] class. They believe they have more money than God, right? They think their money can buy whatever [0:38] they want, anything and everything. Their money can cover up murders and rapes. I'll tell you guys [0:45] this, though. I've been around. I've just seen these cycles in politics, the way Trump is speaking. I am [0:52] MAGA. I'm a king. I know what we're looking at. It's a not so unique moment when Icarus flies a [0:59] little too close to the sun. And I know what happens after that. So just relax. Wait. Get [1:03] ready. You know, let's wait for midterms. Let's see what the king of MAGA can buy with his money. [1:09] Anyway, the fallout from Victor Marks' interview yesterday is trending all across social media, [1:13] and it inspired me to send out a few preservation letters in my ongoing lawsuit with Brian Harpole. [1:20] Welcome back to Candace. All right. Quick shout out to Nimi Skincare for supporting today's episode. [1:39] I am very intentional about the brands that I work with, and Nimi is one that I actually use, [1:42] clean, simple skincare made here in America. So visit NimiSkincare.com and use my code [1:47] Candace10 at checkout for an additional 10% off your order. Where should we begin? More happy [1:53] news, I think. I'm just glad. I'm glad today that we made the decision to allocate as much [2:01] time as you wanted to Victor Marks yesterday. Go ahead. Go for it, buddy. Gubernatorial candidate [2:06] to Colorado. And it was really something for a lot of reasons. I mean, as many of you commented, [2:13] rarely do we get to see that sort of arrogance on display. There are a lot of little Icarus birdies [2:19] flying around in America. Just a complete lack of self-awareness, believing that you are untouchable, [2:26] that you've graduated to some class of people that do whatever they want and face no consequences. [2:33] Also, as a side note, sort of incredible to see how many people he had, Victor Marks had on his team, [2:40] helping him out with that interview. He took to X afterward and posted this little shot. [2:47] Hey, everybody. Victor Marks here. I just finished a podcast with Candace Owen that I think will never [2:53] be forgotten. I want to appreciate my team here. You know, look, I always say truth will prevail, [3:01] and it did today. I'm not mad at Candace. I don't have any anger toward her. A couple of times I was [3:08] passionate in it because I am about protecting kids and Charlie's death. What I would say is for [3:14] those of you who said, Victor doesn't debate, that was a one hour, no moderator debate. That's what I've [3:22] always told those other candidates. Yeah, let's get face to face. Look, all of this has started only [3:28] because I entered into the political realm, period, and because I'm winning the governor's race. So [3:35] thank you all for your prayers. It mattered. It made a difference. We love y'all. [3:40] Indeed it did, Victor. I think it did make a difference, and I do believe that truth prevailed. [3:45] So we can agree on that in the end. So it really got people up in arms yesterday. If you did not have [3:50] time to watch it, really, I would say it boils down to two things. First was the excuse that he [3:56] offered, which included irrelevant social media posting statistics for why it was that Victor [4:04] Marks was seemingly the first person in Charlie's orbit to announce that Charlie had passed away. [4:11] Remember, he told us that this declaration was completely standalone. He didn't even, [4:18] he hardly watched the footage of Charlie getting shot. He said he watched it one time. But then for [4:22] some reason, over an hour and 20 minutes later, he decided to formally announce that Charlie Kirk [4:29] had passed away and to pray for Erica and the kids. And he said he did this absent any confirmation, [4:34] just vibes that he got from the special forces guys around him with knowledge about injuries. [4:39] Somehow he felt that that was enough information for him to fire up Instagram and report it to the [4:45] world that Charlie Kirk did not make it. Take a listen to what he told me. It's important. [4:48] Obviously, a big question that we have had is you were first to post a video that was later on removed [4:56] saying that Charlie had passed. And this video was about an hour and 20 minutes before the president's [5:03] announcement. It would have been to the, you know, to the minutes about the time that his family found [5:10] out that he had passed away or the people that were at the hospital had found out that he had passed [5:14] away. So do you, can you explain how you found that out and why you chose to remove the video? [5:21] Well, yeah, I'm first interested to find out why y'all think I was the first or one of the first, [5:28] you know, to, to do that. Because, um, I mean, a rough estimate, there's between one to three million [5:37] pieces of social media content that are produced every second worldwide. Uh, and, you know, my team [5:45] looked it up. If there's 180 million posts per minute, and let's just say the first 30 minutes, [5:52] we're talking 5.4 billion posts in 30 minutes. How could y'all narrow it down? What type of [5:59] technology could y'all do to narrow it down that I was one of the first ones to post that he had [6:04] passed? Let's, uh, let's put it in a context that's easier. Uh, the first person in Charlie's [6:11] orbit, um, that announced that information. And when we put it down to the minute, it was when [6:17] Erica found out that Charlie was, had passed away. So I was wondering how, how that was. [6:23] Okay. I, I had someone text me and he said, my son is at Charlie's event and Charlie was just shot. [6:32] Uh, and it doesn't look good. Um, we went on it. I watched Charlie being shot one time and my team, [6:41] uh, many who are former special operations guys and combat medics, lots of experience. [6:46] They viewed it multiple times cause I wouldn't. And they said, Charlie, they said, Charlie wouldn't [6:54] live from that. And I, I knew it the first, I knew the only time I saw it, I knew there's no way he [7:00] could have survived that. And when I made a post and said, you know, Charlie's passed. Of course, [7:09] I know Frank turret. I know the security teams. I put it up and then I didn't see anybody else [7:16] posting it. I thought it was premature. And I, I pulled it down cause it just felt wrong [7:23] that I would post it, but it, I wanted people to pray. [7:32] Yeah. I don't believe that for even one second because common sense, that's the thing that I [7:40] suffer from. I know many people at home, you guys also suffer from this chronic condition [7:44] in today's world. Common sense, Victor. You just said you're friends with Frank Turek, [7:50] you're friends with friends with the security guys. You told us elsewhere in the interview [7:53] that Eileen and Erica, they got so close because, well, your wife, your bride mentors Erica, [8:00] right? You were so close to Charlie's security apparatus. In fact, that you were able to swiftly [8:06] coordinate taking over for them a mere 48 hours later in Phoenix. Remember? Yeah. You said, [8:12] oh, you know, they were tired. They were stressed. So you guys came in and your team took over the [8:17] security apparatus. So we can bet, I think, confidently place a bet that you didn't sit [8:24] there texting nobody for an hour and then moving to simply guess that Charlie was dead. You were just [8:30] sitting there twiddling your thumbs at all these contacts with people in the inner circle and said, [8:35] I'm just going to wait 50 minutes. And then I'm going to announce the world that Charlie said. [8:39] That defies logic. I don't like when people expect me to be stupid and that expects me to be stupid. [8:47] That's how it works is that when you know people, when you're in the inner orbit, you utilize those [8:52] resources to get information. You don't stand back and guess with the rest of the world. Kind of like [8:58] how I was texting Andrew Colvett. Because why would I stand back and guess Charlie's condition [9:04] when I know the people directly involved who can provide me with real information? Nobody would do [9:10] that, Victor. You text people you know. I know Frank Turek. I know security teams. That's what [9:16] you said, right? You text those people for information. And the obvious sensible message [9:21] to send initially is, is Charlie okay? What's going on? What's happening? OMG. I just saw the news. Is he [9:30] okay? Now, if for some reason you opted not to do that, Victor, and you simply twiddled your thumbs [9:37] for 50 minutes and then ventured a guess that he was dead and decided to post a selfie video, [9:43] then that is extraordinary. That is, to me, extraordinarily suspicious. Okay? Here's what [9:50] a normal text message exchange should look like between somebody who had no idea that their friend [9:57] was going to be shot on September 10th and had access to people who could provide immediate updates [10:04] as to what their friend's condition was. Okay? Here is a text exchange between me and Andrew Colvett [10:10] on that day. Please say he's okay, I wrote. I don't know. Pray. Shot for sure, Andrew writes back. I [10:18] said, we just prayed before I texted. Any details on where he was shot? I am freaking out. He says, [10:24] in the neckhead area. I said, I saw the footage. I cannot deal with this. Do you see the problem here, [10:31] Victor? You're saying that you didn't do that. You didn't do that. You didn't text for an update. [10:36] You had no idea what was going on. You just were sitting around. Your wife didn't text. You're [10:41] just sitting around. And your Terrell Farnsworth did, right? You decided for an hour to do nothing [10:47] until it was time to record yourself. You texted nobody that you had access to. And then you [10:53] randomly hopped onto Instagram in selfie mode to declare to the world that Charlie was dead [10:59] prematurely, absent any intel. I don't believe that for one second. That story [11:06] has about as much credibility with me as a three-year-old beheading a cat and wearing [11:11] it on his head. I actually would rank the three-year-old beheading the cat and wearing [11:18] it on his head as more likely. That registers to me as less fiction than the story that you [11:24] are telling, that you're telling me that I'm supposed to transpire on that day. So then I'm [11:30] forced to ask myself, Victor, why would you say it? Why would you say it? It's so easy to [11:34] instead say, well, the reason why I was the first to text it 50 minutes later, which is [11:40] about the time Erica found out, well, me and my bride, you know, we're close to Erica. [11:45] That's what you could say. We were close to Erica. We were in that inner sanctum. And [11:48] we found out, I don't know, maybe we messaged Andrew Colbert. We messaged the security team. [11:52] That wouldn't be weird, right? Actually, Frank Turek and the security team should have been [11:57] the first to know that Charlie was dead. They took him to the hospital. So why instead try to [12:03] sell to the public that you took a random shot in the dark? Now, if I had to guess, [12:08] I would say it's because you're protecting someone. Who is that someone? Maybe you're [12:12] protecting something. What is that something? The good news is that I actually don't have [12:19] to guess because I'm currently being sued by Brian Harpole, head of Charlie's security team. [12:25] And since you mentioned that you were in communication with the security team, so much [12:31] so that you were able to relieve them of their duty, that's what you said elsewhere in the [12:35] interview, you took over the security apparatus. That's why you were with Erica and were [12:39] able to hug her and Eileen were able to provide such relief to the team. They were tired. They [12:45] were traumatized. I imagine that took some communication. Your communications with the [12:52] security team during those critical hours might be relevant to my lawsuit. Maybe Brian or Dan [12:58] communicated to you that they felt that they didn't do all that they could do. Maybe that's [13:03] why they were traumatized. I don't know. I really don't know, Victor, but I'm going to need [13:07] to find out because I'm being sued for defamation, which is why we sent earlier today Victor Marks [13:13] legal preservation letter. And I hope that we can get to the bottom of what actually transpired [13:19] on that day. And I think Victor might be able to help, right? Because he did in fact say this. [13:26] And then you were among the first to post, you know, obviously you and your wife, actually, [13:34] maybe it was actually just you in the first two days that went to Erica and Charlie's place to [13:39] provide her some comfort. So you were quite close to Erica. We brought our team immediately [13:49] to help give relief for the first security team who I knew when I was in contact with. And they were [13:58] suffering trauma and exhaustion. They didn't have a secondary. So yeah, we went there. Of course, [14:05] my bride was with me. Her and Erica are very, very close. And we were just standing by to bring [14:12] comfort or help. The number one need they had, and we felt like it, and we were asked to is to provide [14:17] security, to give relief. So that's what we did. That's very kind of you. I'm interested in learning [14:24] more about that through the power of subpoena. And frankly, Victor's subsequent admission regarding [14:32] what he texted Erica while she was at the hospital raised even more eyebrows online because here's [14:38] what he said. And then I contacted Erica through a text and told her, I just told her, nobody's [14:52] going to kill you. You're safe. You and the kids, no one's coming after you. They just wanted Charlie. [14:59] And I was just trying to reassure her because as a... So you declared he was dead on the basis of [15:05] people saying it didn't look good? On the basis of people, myself included, who've had held dead and [15:15] dying men from combat in horrible situations. And anybody who saw the killing and has that experience [15:23] know, we knew he was dead instantly. Yeah. Something's not adding up. Didn't text to see [15:33] if he was alive, but then suddenly said, you're totally good. They only wanted to kill Charlie. [15:38] Who's they? Who is they? They only wanted to kill Charlie. You and the children are fine. How could [15:43] you say that? Would that be your first text to a widow? I don't feel like that's the first text to [15:48] the widow. We're missing something. And hopefully we can start to put the puzzle pieces together because [15:54] we also sent out some more preservation letters. I also sent one to Paramount, not so tactical. [16:00] I am willing to get into the weeds here. It is odd. Everything they are saying is odd. Everyone around [16:07] Erica is just odd, right? Who would say those things? Who would text her not to see if their [16:15] husband is dead or alive, obscene, but then swoop in to say, they only wanted to kill Charlie. You're all [16:21] good. No. And there's something else that I learned that I hadn't shared. I actually learned [16:28] this some time ago, but today feels like a good time to do so. And let me preface this with [16:34] the fact that this came from Erica. So it is, of course, plausible, always plausible that [16:41] she lied. But I can confirm that she said it to multiple people, not to me, but to multiple [16:48] people. I have evidence of that. In the weeks following Charlie's assassination, she shared [16:55] with people that Charlie and her were due to sign updated end of life documents on September [17:02] 15th. Let me say that again. Charlie and her had an appointment and a date to sign updated [17:10] end of life documents on September 15th, the Monday after he died. That is remarkable timing [17:20] that Charlie was just about to update his will, but then he didn't make it to Monday. Like I said, [17:28] I trust the sources on this one. So how are we to interpret that? Okay. We have two options [17:34] here. Neither one of them is particularly a positive outcome for Erica, I might add. Option [17:39] one is that Erica was lying when she shared this information. Okay. Perhaps it's totally [17:45] plausible. She said it out of insecurity, feeling that people might wonder why she was taking over [17:51] his entire company. Remarkably, despite having the ability to present that in his will, a corporate [18:02] will, his personal will to say, I express this as my desire. Charlie hadn't particularly documented [18:07] that desire or else he would have been told that. So this would sort of rank similar to her telling [18:12] Megyn Kelly that Charlie had only just expressed an aspirin three weeks before his untimely death, [18:19] but he was abandoning his 10 year publicly expressed desire for women to prioritize their home life [18:25] and their children above climbing the corporate ladder. It was, in my opinion, not something that [18:32] he actually said outside of AI tools, but something that they thought they would have to pretend he said [18:37] to assuage public questions and concern about the seemingly contrary move. So that's an option. [18:45] There's an option that she just said that to someone in the same vein. Oh, you're probably [18:50] wondering why I'm taking over his whole life here, why I'm going to be on that Air Force board [18:54] and why I'm going to be giving speeches and going on tour and being the CEO and chairman. [19:00] Well, Charlie, it was crazy timing. Charlie was actually just about to update his end of life [19:07] documents to reflect his brand new feminist desires that he had come on very quickly three weeks [19:15] before his untimely passing. Alas, right? That's an option. That's an option. She just lied. [19:22] Option two is that Erica is not lying and that Charlie and her did indeed have an upcoming [19:29] appointment on September 15th to adjust his will and testament. Then the question becomes, [19:37] to what end and why? Okay. You don't just update your will for funsies. That's not how it works. [19:44] If you don't have a will, you just don't do that. It's a lot of paperwork, especially for somebody as [19:50] fly-hying as Charlie Kirk, especially if you're saying you're going in and you had an appointment [19:55] to do it. This is not a little update that's happening. There are life events, right? Every [20:01] time I have a child, you have to add a kid to your will. Okay. So they already get it. We're going to [20:08] divide this amongst the children. There's one more kid. That gets done via email. [20:12] When you are going in to do an update, there has to be a life event that warrants that sort of a [20:18] change. Example, you hit the lottery. Oh, we hit the lottery. We've got billions. Let's get into that [20:23] office and update our will and testament. Okay. Maybe you would do it if you completely decided [20:31] to switch who you were doing your life insurance with for some reason. Maybe you get a better deal. [20:36] I don't know. That might be, generally speaking, another reason that you were going in to change [20:42] your will. It signals that there was a major shift in your personal life. So the question, [20:49] the necessary follow-up question, if Erica is telling the truth, is what was this life-changing [20:55] event? What was the reason that Erica and Charlie were just about to go in on the 15th to update his [21:03] end-of-life documents? Okay. There was no new kid, which again, would not require you to go in [21:10] in most circumstances. It could be different in Arizona. What's the change? And lest we forget, [21:17] he already had, Charlie already had a corporate life insurance policy, which included, I am told, [21:25] a $10 million payout for Erica and the children. He could have listed desires, his corporate will, [21:32] his personal will. If he wanted Erica to become a CEO and chairman, since everybody is telling the [21:36] Daily Mail, he said it so many times. Oh, it doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter if [21:41] that video exists or if I think it's, we're getting ahead of ourselves. The real thing is that every [21:47] time, everywhere, in every place, people had side conversations with him and he would just mention [21:51] it. Like, just like, it's just a, Charlie, you want some coffee? No. What I actually want is for my [21:56] wife to take over my company in the event that I get shot. That was it. Everyone knows it. It's just a [22:01] no known. Let me tell you guys something. Again, as sufferers of chronic common sense, in literally [22:11] every murder mystery ever, in real life and within the world of fiction, a will change or a desired [22:19] will change on Monday in the near future, amidst an unexpected death event, is something that [22:28] investigators typically pay attention to. So investigators, if you'd like to reach out to me [22:35] to receive the names of the people who Erica disclosed this information to, I would be happy [22:40] and willing to provide it. Anything to assist in the non-investigation of Charlie Kirk that is [22:44] happening from the FBI, the SBI, and the state of Utah. Let me know how I can not help. If Erica [22:52] is telling the truth, I cannot think of a life event that would have warranted a change in Charlie's [22:58] will. There may have been one, but in the midst of Charlie telling people that $10 million was missing [23:05] from his company, allegedly, in the midst of him establishing a Doge internal audit to locate this [23:12] alleged $10 million, which was subsequently canceled? In the wake of his death, that audit was canceled? [23:18] Why? In the midst of him texting those closest to him and saying, they're going to kill me. [23:26] Tamara, I think I am going to be killed. I am fully within my right to wonder if he realized that there [23:35] were a few snakes in his garden. Who was going to benefit from his death? Did Charlie actually make [23:46] the appointment alone? Actually, that's a possibility too, right? Were his communications [23:51] being monitored? Did he try to carve out an appointment because he was fearful of some death [23:55] event, as he expressed? And did he try to radically then shift learning that he had suspected somebody [24:00] was taking money, siphoning money out of Turning Point USA, that his life was not what he thought it [24:05] was? He's asking, I want Candace back. Why? Why does he want Candace back? Because I told him not to trust [24:10] any of those people. All of the people that the world now sees are the snakes that were in Charlie's [24:15] garden. I saw them first, and I warned Charlie about those people. So what happened? Were they [24:21] monitoring? I think they were. I believe, I know everyone had access to everything. Andrew Colvett was [24:27] running his Twitter. Mikey had his laptop. I mean, everybody did have access to Charlie's everything [24:33] because he was too trusting. Did they find out somehow that he was going in to change his will? [24:38] I don't know. But these are questions that ought to be asked when the entire narrative that is [24:42] currently being presented to us makes entirely no sense. And when his wife just seems okay with it [24:48] making no sense. Actually, you know, just a little adjacent story. A little sidebar here. Remember that [24:55] grieving widow we told you about a few months ago? The one in Utah, ironically, who was found guilty of [25:03] murdering her husband out in Utah, but like not instantly. Corey Richens was her name. Her husband [25:09] died of an overdose. She then wrote a children's book and went on a public book tour to promote how [25:17] to cope with loss, the loss of a with her grieving children. Are you with me by Corey D. Richens? The [25:23] media ate that up. Here is a little quick clip to jog your memory about Corey on tour as the grieving [25:30] widow. Parent, a sibling or friend talking about loss with kids can be a tricky subject. Joining us [25:38] now is author of Are You With Me? Corey Richens to share her three C's to helping kids cope with [25:44] grief. And Corey, I want to start with your story. What happened in your personal life? So my husband [25:51] passed away unexpectedly last year. So it's March 4th was a one year anniversary for us. And he was 39. [25:59] It completely took us all by shock. And we have three little boys, 10, 9, and 6. And, you know, [26:09] we kind of, my kids and I kind of wrote this book on the different emotions and grieving processes that [26:17] we've experienced last year. And, you know, hoping that it can kind of help other kids, you know, [26:22] deal with this and kind of, you know, find happiness some, some way or another. [26:29] And to make sense and process, I'm sure. And I'm sure you felt that going through and trying to [26:36] explain it and articulate it for you and your boys. Yes, exactly. Exactly. A month later, [26:44] she would be arrested over a year after her husband had passed away. And I wanted to mention [26:49] that because changing wills, changing life insurance policy was a huge piece of the [26:57] prosecution's case against her. See, her husband, Eric Richens, also her victim, gratefully and [27:06] successfully managed to transfer his entire estate and business interests into his sister's name [27:12] covertly a few weeks before he passed away, before he was murdered. He was feeling like someone might [27:20] kill him and that someone was his wife. And so he coordinated with his sister and transferred [27:23] everything into her name. His wife had no idea that he had done it shortly before he died and out of [27:29] fear for figuring out who his wife was. Simultaneously, the court heard that Corey herself [27:37] attempted to change the beneficiary of his corporate life insurance so that she would receive it 100% [27:45] of the payout. But she got caught. Both of these changes signaled to the jury that something was [27:52] amiss. Eric was terrified of his wife. And like I said, fortunately for Eric, he had people in his [28:00] orbit and in his life that he was actually able to trust with that information, that he was able to [28:05] trust when he said, I think she's going to kill me. Anyway, that's just an aside. I will reiterate [28:13] my earlier point that any attempted or recently accomplished will changes surrounding an unexpected [28:25] death event should be further investigated. So if you'd like to reach out to me, investigators, [28:34] I'm here and ready to help. I suspect I won't be hearing from you. And dare I say, [28:39] Erica, if you're interested, no, of course not. We'll be right back after a break. [28:43] All right, you guys, I used to think that great skincare had to be complicated. Like if I wasn't [28:46] using 10 different products, I wasn't doing enough. And then I found Nimi's three-step anti-aging [28:51] routine and it has changed everything. 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Maybe, maybe, I don't know, but I'd certainly like [31:09] to find out. And something else that they said that was mentioned, which was later confirmed by the [31:14] Daily Mail in their investigation into the AI video, was that Erica also communicated that a [31:23] Turning Point USA board member was going to be helping them with those changes. Interestingly enough, [31:30] you might recall from that Daily Mail article that they said that they spoke to a TPUSA board member [31:35] who said that he was helping with those affairs. I wonder who that is. I wonder who that is. It's [31:41] probably one of the people that signed the letter announcing Erica, and this is if I'm just [31:46] taking a shot in the dark. I would imagine it was one of the board members who announced that [31:52] Erica was going to be the CEO and the chairman. Maybe like a Doug DeGroote, Mike Miller, I don't [31:57] know. Like I said, if I was an interested investigator, these would be some crumbs that I would [32:03] follow. As an update and moving on, I wanted to let you guys know that I am still being ghosted [32:11] by the White House. It's depressing, really. I've never been ghosted. Ashley, my producer, [32:15] has never been ghosted. This is the first time. It feels weird. I feel like I was left [32:20] on read. The White House Correspondents Dinner communications are very relevant, which is [32:26] why we filed an FOIA request. Erica Kirk written in as an emotional asset just over an hour after [32:33] shots are fired, not concerned about safety, but in making sure that that video is number [32:39] one in the morning, that is not something that we are going to let go. We need to keep [32:45] the pressure on Erica Kirk and Turning Point USA, okay? Because it's working. We are getting [32:52] more information. They're making more foolish decisions. I mean, how ill-advisable to go to [32:58] the Daily Mail to say, we're going to host a little private screening with you. What was [33:02] it, on Zoom or something? And we're going to show you how real this video is. It's so real. [33:06] We're the victims of the conspiracies, even though we're the ones that presented the video [33:11] to telling people it existed and then decided to have Erica walk out to just the audio of [33:20] it. They just think they're smarter. So many little Icarus birdies just flying so close to [33:26] the sun. We've got power. We've got money. We've got Epstein-class connections. We can do [33:33] whatever we want. We'll see about that. We'll see about that. I, me, vengeance does not belong [33:41] to me. Nope, not at all. But I've just seen it so many times, people like this who just [33:46] think that they have enough power to be bad people, to lie, and to dupe the public. They're [33:53] not regular. They've classed up. Okay. Anyway, regarding the White House Correspondents Dinner, [33:58] we will keep the countdown going and see how far this goes. I want to provide you guys also with [34:05] a very quick update on the Tyler Robinson case. I think people had some questions yesterday because [34:09] there was much ado about nothing in the press. A ton of articles being spun out to suggest that [34:14] Tyler Robinson wanted to conceal the evidence from the public. He wants the evidence sealed from [34:20] the public. And the headlines, of course, were not representing reality. That's why they don't want, [34:25] by the way, cameras in the courtroom. I do. I'm glad there will be cameras in the courtroom. [34:29] But this has been their fear that the headlines are not representing reality. And yesterday was a [34:34] prime example. This was the headline of Fox News. Tyler Robinson hearing the defense vies to restrict [34:40] evidence and testimony in the Charlie Kirk assassination. AP News. Lawyers for the man accused of killing [34:49] Charlie Kirk. Asked to seal evidence in parts of a key hearing. News Nation. Lawyers for the accused [34:56] Charlie Kirk shooter seek to seal evidence in court. Okay. So let me walk you through what is actually [35:02] happening. In short, there is no change. Okay. The preliminary hearing is fast approaching. We discussed [35:09] this. The defense still has not received their discovery requests. So effectively, the state, the victim, [35:18] Erica Kirk, they want to be able to present during this preliminary hearing all of this evidence that [35:25] has not been prodded by the defense. Evidence that ultimately when they get to the trial, they may say [35:30] it's inadmissible because it's inadmissible. They can't argue that's inadmissible right now because they [35:36] don't have the means to argue it. So what they are saying is if we must go through with this preliminary [35:43] hearing, if you are insisting that this has to happen and we are not going to receive our discovery [35:48] requests, then you should seal the quote unquote evidence in case it becomes inadmissible down the [35:54] line. There's evidence of that. Ash, did we pull that page from the Tyler Robinson's filings where [36:01] they list everything that they're asking to be sealed and they demonstrate in the column why they [36:05] want it sealed? Okay. We could pull it up later, but they're explaining very carefully. Hey, we want this [36:14] sealed. We want this sealed because they're going in with hearsay evidence. They're bringing five [36:20] officers to say things. They're going to have Lance, Lance Twiggs' testimony to say things. We need to be [36:26] at a further place in this. You're going to testify and show these text messages. You're going to show [36:31] this. You're going to show that. We don't even know if these text messages are real. So what would [36:35] happen if they allowed the prosecution to present those text messages and they were not under seal? [36:41] But what would happen is exactly what you just saw. You would have Fox News. You would have News [36:46] Nation. You would have Paramount not so tactical and their influencer orbit of people saying, [36:52] booyah, booyah. See these messages? They're in court. So now it's real. They think the public is [37:00] stupid and that they will not be able to sort through down the line. They think if you're first [37:06] to cross the finish line, if we can just show this in court, people will think that it has been [37:10] vetted and it is legitimate. And so they are saying, don't give the media the opportunity to [37:16] spin something that may ultimately be proven inadmissible because it's fraudulent. And here [37:21] is the documents that we're going to pull up here. We can get to that page that just shows [37:26] left and right. Here's 31. Case in point, the FBI DNA report, right? The towel, the screwdriver, [37:34] they haven't even been able to see this stuff. They have not. They said they weren't even able [37:39] to see the gun. Listed 32, the ATF ballistics report. Yeah, they want this stuff sealed because [37:46] ultimately, if they can't actually go through it and prove that it is legitimate or understand their [37:51] methods for how they presented it, they may down the line say to the jury, never mind, that's inadmissible. [37:56] So do not color the public. Do not color jury with stuff that down the line may ultimately mean [38:02] nothing. It makes perfect sense. There is no change. All right, you guys, I do want to shift [38:08] gears here. I do not often weigh in on the podcast wars, so to speak. I think because I'm usually the [38:14] one that's at the center of them. But there was this clip that went around yesterday that really, [38:18] or last week rather, that really bothered me. And it bothered me for two reasons. [38:22] I obviously like Joe Rogan. I am friends with Theo Vaughn. He's literally one of the best people that I [38:27] know. My children absolutely adore him. I tell you that. He's just exactly what you think. He is [38:32] exactly what you get on his show, is who he is. And he is like the fun uncle, the funcle that [38:38] everybody wants. And I had seen earlier, I think it was a few months ago, that Joe Rogan had discussed [38:43] Theo when he was sitting across from him. And Theo was rightfully venting about the Epstein class [38:50] and the pedophile class. And it sort of seemed like Joe Rogan's response was to treat Theo Vaughn like a [38:55] child that was just crazy and needed to just chill out. And it's the way we all feel. We're very [38:59] frustrated with the system. And I said, okay, whatever. They're just two guys talking. But [39:02] then Theo Vaughn was not in the presence of Joe Rogan. And he was sitting across from someone [39:09] discussing Theo Vaughn's SSRI usage. And this is what Joe Rogan said. And it caused quite a bit of [39:17] backlash. Take a listen. [39:20] Yeah, Theo Vaughn's going through the exact same thing. And last time he was on the podcast, [39:24] he was explaining it to me. And it freaks me out because I know Theo's had conversations before, [39:29] like even publicly. He had a Netflix taping and it didn't go well. It was like they actually [39:37] never, they shelved it. They never used it. And you know, there was all these stories from people [39:41] that were there saying he bombed. I think he just had a kind of a breakdown. And when he was talking [39:45] to the crowd and there's a video of it, we said, you know, the people were shaking. Hey, [39:49] we still love you. He goes, thank you. Look, I'm just, I'm trying not to take my own life. [39:53] That's what I'm trying to do right now. Yeah. And like, you hear stuff like that. And you just [39:57] go like, Oh, Jesus Christ. I've known too many people that I didn't think were going to kill [40:02] themselves and then did. And then he goes down these spirals where he starts talking about world [40:08] events and freaking out. I'm like, Oh, Jesus Christ. Like I got to help this dude. And so I send him [40:14] things about people getting off of them. And apparently there's some doctors that specialize [40:19] and getting people off of them. But here's the thing about that chemical imbalance thing. [40:25] That's not real. They used to think that that was what these things do, that they treated a chemical [40:31] imbalance. But then recently studies have shown that that is not what they do. They don't exactly [40:38] know what they do. And they kind of numb you in some sort of a way that helps some people. [40:48] So to the portion that I very much agree with Joe Rogan on was just the very end, which didn't require [40:52] anything about the Ovan, which is my personal opinion about the drugs they put people on [40:56] for emotional reasons. And I very much have shared my story of how lucky I was that I had a friend [41:01] in college that when I went through a breakup and was boohoo crying and the doctor wrote me a [41:06] prescription of Xanax was like, You don't need Xanax. That's a human emotion. Why would you want to [41:10] take something that's going to stop you from feeling a human emotion? Nothing's wrong with you. [41:14] It turns out you're just human. And so I get that part of the conversation. It was just sort of [41:19] presenting as I'm being compassionate by talking about Theo Bond. Like if he actually was in this [41:26] dark place and his whole life was coming apart and he wanted to take his own life, that certainly [41:31] wouldn't be the thing that helped him. That would actually be the thing that maybe tipped him over [41:35] the edge, right? And so I looked at that and I said, What is that actually? What are we doing here [41:41] and kind of caging it like you're a friend and you're concerned when any person who is concerned [41:46] as a friend would not publicly do something like that? So I thought it was really icky and I was [41:52] not happy about it. And then I saw I didn't say anything about I'm only saying something now [41:56] because I watched the back for Theo responded to that clip because it went viral and people were [42:02] equally as like, What is that? And Theo Bond responded and said, This is mostly cap. That's [42:07] slang, by the way. I don't cap. I don't really know what it means. I'm he's cooler than me. Sad to see [42:12] this kind of stuff. I'm doing great. I'm a human being, which is a rocky ride, but I'm doing fine. [42:17] Thanks. And yeah, being a human being is a rocky ride. And you never know the context of what what [42:22] somebody is saying to someone, whether they're kidding when they say something like he told me [42:27] it was wildly taken out of context. And he was like, Oh, I'm trying not to kill myself. And everyone [42:31] got all concerned. And so it Yeah, I just didn't love it. I did not love it. And what I did really [42:37] love, though, was that Joe Rogan did something he's never done in the history of a show, where he just [42:41] recorded him apologizing. And I don't think it was motivated for selfish reasons. I really don't. [42:47] I think I sense his sincerity in this. I don't think it was like, Well, people are all mad at me [42:50] because people have been mad at him very many times in the past. And he's not apologized in this way. [42:55] And I just wanted to play that because very rarely in the in the podcast space, do you ever see [43:02] anyone apologize for anything? There's so much arrogance. And this was cool. So I'm gonna play it. [43:08] I apologize to Theo. He knows I love him. And we he said that and we laughed and we joked around [43:16] about it. And I apologize for the way I talked about this. But I felt like I need to explain [43:21] to other people to to get just like what was going on in my mind out. And it certainly wasn't like [43:29] covering for Israel. And it certainly wasn't like trying to paint him out like he's damaged or [43:35] treat him like a child. I just want him to be okay. And when you're dealing with someone or you when [43:43] you have like had experience dealing with someone that what where it winds up going very badly. And [43:48] then you're just left with this feeling like what could I have done? You know, I didn't do a good job [43:54] of it, you know, especially like the Marcus King thing. Like, that's terrible what I did. I didn't mean [43:59] to I was just trying to, you don't think sometime when you're in the middle of a podcast, you're just [44:03] having a conversation. You don't think about the impact that it's going to have. That's one of [44:07] the reasons why, you know, podcasts are so weird, because like, you're in the middle of trying to [44:13] be entertaining, but you're also just having a conversation. And I f***ed up. So because I felt [44:20] so badly about it, I was like, there's got to be a way to address this, where I just express myself. [44:27] And so that's why we've never done this before. We've never done this kind of a thing after a podcast. [44:32] But Deo is very important to me. She's an awesome person, a great friend, and one of the most [44:40] interesting and funny people I've ever met in my life. And I just felt terrible about it. And I told [44:45] them I'd never bring it up publicly again. But I think it is important to let people know that aspect [44:51] of it. So I'm going to call him and clear this with him and make sure he's cool with me saying this, [44:56] but I'm pretty sure he's going to be. And that's it. So I'm a human and I'm flawed like all of us. [45:05] And I f***ed up. And it's probably not the last time. It's definitely not. I'm going to f***ed up [45:09] again. But my intention is never to hurt anybody ever. Easily the coolest thing I've ever seen on [45:18] the Joe Rogan experience, because it was basically what Theo talked about. We're all human. We make [45:23] mistakes. And he's right, especially me. I really do say things like I am talking to my friends on a [45:30] podcast. That's real. You can just kind of forget that you're alive and you like it'd be weird. [45:34] You're like, Joe Rogan, you're number one. You should know what you're saying. It all ties. Well, [45:37] he's doing hours and hours of podcasting. And it is sometimes you just forget yourself and you're [45:41] deep into a conversation and you think you are alone with the person, me, I guess, just talking [45:46] to you guys. And then I'm like, ooh, did I say that? And I'm thinking of like minor situations [45:52] where I've said something and I'm like, gosh, I really didn't even recognize that. So I just think [45:56] it's a little like more of that, I think. And it's just cool to see people resolve something in a very [46:02] human way. And I thought that was just a rare happy thing that happened in politics. And I [46:07] thought it was a good thing for me to end on that since I was basically going to breathe fire this [46:12] entire episode. So I just need to calm myself down with a nice story. Anyway, we'll take a brief break [46:18] and we'll get to your comments. All right, you guys, you know those days when you just feel off. [46:22] As a mom, I've had plenty of them between juggling work, family and everything else. 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Ballistic Bud writes, [48:35] I'm a veteran, served three times more than him. We do not stand with that guy. Yeah, remember his [48:41] like bizarre, it was three years, it was two years. Talk about just coming across generally soft and [48:48] unfit to serve in the armed forces. That was an example of exactly that. Get alone to be in like [48:54] trying to lead an entire state of Colorado. I don't think that that works if you're that [48:59] soft and fragile. Ultraviolet writes, I survived Victor Marks is what most of us are feeling right [49:05] now. Yeah, definitely thinking people that say that they were emotionally abused by him. That's [49:12] tracking for me. Vibe person. And I feel like the vibes are there that he could, in fact, be guilty [49:18] of just that. All right. Comments from today's episode. Whoops. Opened the wrong document. [49:25] Seven Sheets writes, any news on Erica Kirk rushing to trademark Charlie's name and his parents, [49:30] bless them, are suing her over this? Is this what a widow would do or a power money grab and why [49:35] without the consent of his parents, prayers and faith? I think that that was just an internet rumor. [49:40] I never heard that. I had never received any information about that. And I don't know that [49:45] I would imagine Charlie's name was already trademarked, possibly. I don't know what [49:49] trademarks were filed. I guess we can look and see that and you can check the dates. I have not done [49:53] that trademark search. But yeah, I don't I would imagine that that is not the circumstance. And I [49:59] think a lot of rumors are flying around and that one kind of went more viral than some other ones. [50:04] Z.A. Mitt writes, Congressman Thomas Massey was France paid yesterday. Unfortunately, [50:09] the battle is physical. The war is spiritual. Devil's overplaying his hand. I will leave it at [50:15] that. It only works if people believe it's real. You know what I'm saying? Power works when people [50:24] believe it's real. Power is actually quite fragile. So when people begin to recognize that they are [50:29] being ruled over, like when the slaves look up and recognize that actually they're on a plantation, [50:35] that's not good. It's one of the reasons why slaves are not allowed to learn how to read the slave [50:40] codes. Like it was actually such a a insistent slave code that even if you were a slave owner and [50:48] you were caught teaching a slave how to read, you would also face penalties and fines and punishment [50:53] because, yeah, they need you to be ignorant. That's the point. They need you to be stupid. [50:58] And people are not stupid right now. They get what's going on. And so I personally like the [51:03] phase where they get arrogant. I like this phase where they start saying the things that they're [51:07] saying. And I just like I said, I've seen it happen a great many times. And we are headed [51:13] in that direction with the Epstein class. Two Tone Tommy writes, there are two sets of [51:17] cojones between Brigitte and Victor. There is one set of cojones between Candace and Victor [51:22] and Victor ain't got it. I don't want cojones. I don't want cojones. But I get what you're [51:28] saying at the point that you're making. Victor just, you know, just registered to me as a [51:32] bit unstable, emotionally unstable. I'm happy. He says he's working on it. I have no doubt [51:37] that he probably did not have a peachy childhood. Actually, frankly, I liked his family. They [51:44] reminded me a lot of my family. It's just Southern people and like one side of my family, [51:48] at least. Southern people seemed like people that cared and had dignity and respect and [51:54] a sense of honor about their ways, even if things were a bit crazy growing up. That's [52:00] the vibe I got. Mandy writes, the urgency by our government to build these data centers [52:05] which drain our drinking water supply and strain our local grids needs to be talked about. [52:09] We talked about it last week. I think everybody is talking about it and they should continue [52:13] to talk about it. And within your community, when they are trying to do these sorts of things, [52:17] you need to cause an uproar. There are more of us than them. Something Charlie always said [52:22] to me. What is one thing that every single slave civilization since the beginning of time [52:27] had in common with one another? And the answer is there were always more slaves and masters. [52:34] So think about that. Zach Costello show. Oh, I've watched some of your episodes. Zach [52:38] Costello. Hello. Zach writes, the timeline of Charlie to car drive to hospital surgeon and [52:44] Andrew Colbert finding out puts Victor Marx's Instagram posts at exactly within the time frame [52:48] that his closest inner circle was finding out. Someone informed him, in my opinion. I totally [52:54] agree with you, Zach. That's the point we were making. It was when right around the timeline [52:57] when Erica finds out. It's actually a little bit before when Andrew Colbert finds out. So [53:01] that signals to me that someone in the hospital, perhaps the security team or Erica informed [53:05] him that Charlie was gone. Just putting together the blue clues. I definitely don't think he [53:10] was just wagering a guess. That doesn't register right to me. Or maybe he was a part of the [53:15] Israel chat because, like I mentioned the other day, Pastor Jack Hibbs and that little orbit [53:20] of TPUSA faith adjacent people-ish were also among the first to say that Charlie had passed [53:28] and that for some reason Israel knew first. I don't know why they knew first. Who knows [53:33] why Israel knew first? Israel didn't do nothing. They've never done anything other than assassinated [53:37] sitting president of the United States. Abdallah Kab writes, Candace, what do you think about [53:41] the shooting at the mosque in LA? It is the first time that I have seen mass shooters take their own [53:46] life. Is it another attempt to place a wedge between Christian America and Muslims? I actually [53:51] did not follow that story, so I'm a bit uneducated. But I will just say more broadly speaking, the [53:55] attempt to pull Christians and Muslims apart and keep them warring with each other has become [53:59] very evident. And I always speak about 9-11 and the intentional brainwashing that took place [54:07] across my generation, making us every day, never forget 9-11, stand up at 9 a.m. and 11 minutes [54:14] every day for a moment of silence. That was what was going on at my high school to drive this fear [54:20] of Muslims have us thinking that they were radical. And I think that now our generation is grown up and [54:26] we have some different ideas and opinions about who could have been around 9-11, who benefited from [54:30] those Middle Eastern wars, which subsequently took place. It certainly wasn't America and [54:36] it certainly wasn't Christians. I will leave it at that. James the least writes, if I wanted to be [54:43] governor of Colorado, I wouldn't go on one of the biggest podcasts in the country and say absolutely [54:47] nothing about why I should be governor. On the other hand, if I had a lot of money to launder, [54:51] what easier way to do that than to run for office? I think we have the worst options that people that are [54:58] running. I don't know how Ed Gowran is not just embarrassed to be alive, honestly, to not even [55:03] run and to have everybody know what you are, effectively a prostitute, right? You're a prostitute. [55:10] You know that. You had no crowd. You had to have the camera zoomed in real close to your face so [55:15] people couldn't see the no crowd that showed up even to your victory party. Nobody was there. [55:20] I just think we need to bring back culture of shame. And as a man, that should kill you. You should die [55:25] from embarrassment automatically, right? You just like, oh, I was a man. I'm just going to pass away. [55:30] Testosterone deficiency or something. If I was Ed Gowran, that's what I would expect. But I guess [55:36] we're living in a different generation. People are pansies and people are like, hmm, money. [55:42] Yay. I'm just going to do what I can to get rich and vote how they tell me to vote. [55:47] Yeah. You're a slave to Ed. So just you think you're one in the house. That's all that is. [55:55] Sorry, guys. That was a little harsh. I am not being very nice today. [56:00] Just, I got to chill. I have got to chill ASAP. New merch available on the website if you would [56:06] like to support us and support people who are not bought and paid for. The easiest way to support [56:12] our show is to head to canastowings.com, buy some merch, buy yourself a mug. We don't know, [56:19] know, but we know. And soon we're going to know, know. Yep. Tons of stuff up there and some great [56:25] caps. Yeah. There you guys go. Just get up there. Just buy something. No, just buy whatever it is [56:32] that you want. And by the way, if you are watching right now, hit the like button on or subscribe [56:37] button on YouTube. I just feel like we're flirting with six million. They don't want me to have six [56:41] million. They don't want me to just earn six million. 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