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The reality of life in Jerusalem during war

April 7, 2026 10m 1,522 words
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"As the debris is cleared, you can see just how deep the crater is, caused by a missile, say officials, packed with 100 kilos of explosives. This is my first time in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories. I'm James Waterhouse and for the past few years I've been the BBC's Ukraine..."

[0:00] As the debris is cleared, you can see just how deep the crater is, [0:04] caused by a missile, say officials, packed with 100 kilos of explosives. [0:10] This is my first time in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories. [0:14] I'm James Waterhouse and for the past few years I've been the BBC's Ukraine correspondent [0:21] and I've been sent here to help with coverage of the US and Israel's war with Iran. [0:27] The police evicted 15 Palestinian families. [0:30] You can't have Iran with a nuclear weapon. [0:32] We should probably get inside Joe. [0:35] And this is Jerusalem, a city of huge religious significance [0:44] to its population of mostly Jews, Muslims and Christians. [0:48] The deep history of this place is plain to see, but it's intertwined with heavy security [0:56] and a constant tension really between its different communities. [1:00] And on top of all that, Israel is once again involved in another conflict. [1:05] It's when you come up, [1:06] you can see how so many people from different faiths live and worship in a relatively small space. [1:13] You can see the sun bouncing off the Golden Dome of the mosque there, the Al-Aqsa Mosque. [1:19] You can see a crucifix on top of a church and you can see the Star of David, [1:23] the Jewish symbol on the Israeli flag. [1:26] But this isn't a harmonious coexistence, far from it. [1:31] Jerusalem is roughly split in two. [1:34] Israel controls the city and sees all of it, [1:38] as [1:38] the country's capital. [1:40] But Palestinians, Arabs who live here too, see East Jerusalem as a capital of their future state. [1:47] But under international law, this part of the city is occupied by the Israelis. [1:53] And as the world's attention focuses on the wider war, [1:57] violence from extremist Jewish nationalists, known as settlers, [2:01] against Palestinians has been getting worse. [2:05] In East Jerusalem's neighbourhood of Silwan, Khalil Bazbos [2:09] had his lifetime home seized by settlers who see this land as their own. [2:16] It was 10.30 at night. [2:18] So we were forced to evacuate and put some of our belongings out in the street. [2:22] They were young children, three of them all under 10 years old. [2:26] I refused to hand over the key, I told them. [2:29] Because my father gave me the key, I will give it to my grandchildren, [2:32] so that it remains a memory, as a hope that we will return. [2:36] I've been living in this for 60 years. [2:39] I've been living in this for 60 years. [2:40] I've been living in this for 60 years. [2:40] I've been living in this for 60 years. [2:40] I've been living in this for 60 years. [2:41] I've been living in this for 60 years. [2:42] Then someone who's 17 years old comes and tells me that this house is his, [2:47] that Jews used to live here. [2:51] The settlers have increasingly been doing this [2:54] with the support of the Israeli government and its military, [2:57] meaning there's little Palestinians like Khalil can do. [3:02] There is a defiance in these narrow lanes and this isn't just about division. [3:08] It's about confrontation and you can see it and it's a hostility you sense. [3:13] That is only being fueled by Israel's participation in this wider war. [3:19] This used to be like a Palestinian space between two Palestinian neighborhoods. [3:24] So what happened last week is that the police evicted a couple of buildings, [3:31] 15 housing units, evicted 15 Palestinian families from them, [3:35] just in front of us, just over there in that part of Silwan. [3:39] This is based on the claim that the property belongs to a [3:44] settler organization. [3:45] But the settler organization got control of the property because of Israeli legislation. [3:55] Israel, with America, is carrying out airstrikes on Iran, its long-standing enemy. [4:00] It's targeted military sites as well as the country's leadership. [4:04] But hundreds of civilians are thought to have been killed as well. [4:07] The country is also fighting Iranian-linked militant groups on its border. [4:12] So many Israelis I've spoken to say they feel threatened by [4:16] neighboring states who don't want the country to exist. [4:19] You can't have Iran with a nuclear weapon which is, you know, not just Israel, [4:25] right in some other countries. [4:27] So I think Israel is doing the job for the rest of the world. [4:31] That's what I think. [4:33] Some people hate us for that. [4:34] I think Iran and basically the, call it the Far East, [4:39] have been run by crazy people whose worldview, beliefs, philosophy, core [4:46] uh, [4:46] modus of [4:47] operation from which they see reality is not only different, it's poisonous. [4:52] And that's something that will upset people to hear, I'm sure. [4:55] But I've lived here. [4:56] I've f***ing seen it. [4:59] I've lost friends to that poison. [5:00] We can live together, love each other, everything. [5:04] But all the politics, up, up, up, up, up, all the day, look for fight, look for fight. [5:12] It's interesting, many Israelis, not least the government, want to keep [5:17] pushing on with this war to weaken Iran and its allies as much as possible. [5:22] But it's how security or even peace is achieved, or how it arrives, [5:30] which is proving to be so divisive and controversial. [5:34] How are we doing, James? [5:41] So the day starts with a bit of radio. [5:46] And I'll go on Radio 4, the World Service, Five Live. [5:50] And then we come up to this delightful weather to do a bit of telly. [5:56] And then we'll get on with our day. [5:57] We'll see what filming we can do, who we can speak to, [6:01] either for a piece or just to get an understanding of the story. [6:04] And each day is different. [6:09] So this means an Iranian ballistic missile is coming in. [6:19] And the SAM will soon tell you from what direction. [6:22] But we've got to, we should probably get inside, Joe. [6:27] There we go. [6:28] You'll see here in Ukraine, you might have a bit of time and the sirens go. [6:35] Here, less so. [6:38] When you hear them, you head down. [6:43] You try and... [6:44] You get two walls at least between you and the outside. [6:49] Way too long before you hear the worst facts. [6:57] ...following a missile attack there overnight. [7:09] Tel Aviv also coming under rocket attack. [7:12] So let's cross over live to Jerusalem because my colleague James Waterhouse is there. [7:16] So James, numerous strikes across Israel. [7:19] Just bring us up to date where we are. [7:23] It's been a lively morning, Kasia. [7:25] We've had two very loud explosions in the space of... [7:39] This is the bit where we can get on. [7:41] With our day, the weather is not getting any better, [7:44] but we're just going with Musa now across the city to the BBC office to see the team there. [7:59] While some journalists come and go from this region, [8:01] there is a team who is based here permanently. [8:04] Yolande Nell is one of the Middle East correspondents. [8:07] So what's it like to work and live here? [8:10] It's not easy. [8:11] I mean, I've been here for quite a few years and we used to have lots of upheavals, [8:15] quite regular wars, but not anything like the... [8:20] Concentration, the intensity of the last three years. [8:24] There's so much going on every day that you have to try to take account of. [8:27] And actually, it's not that easy to sort of like see with your own eyes the action. [8:32] There's Israel also fighting against this Iran-backed group, Hezbollah, in Lebanon [8:38] with a huge military operation that's unfolding there. [8:41] And if it wasn't for the war in Iran, you know, that in itself would be leading the headlines. [8:45] As far as global stories go, this one is significant. [8:49] It's a big deal. [8:50] And despite wars elsewhere, you suspect this one will continue to dominate. [8:55] We woke up to lots of alerts on our phones about missile strikes in Tel Aviv, [9:07] a city further north. [9:08] So we're heading there now with Yolande to see what the damage is like. [9:13] And it doesn't take us long to find it. [9:15] This district is mostly made up of ultra-Orthodox Jews. [9:19] I've just been speaking to the police and they say 50 people live in this block [9:24] and six were injured after this damage, where you can see... [9:28] the roof has been completely destroyed in part, caused by a cluster bomb. [9:34] So that's an Iranian missile that explodes before impact, [9:37] spreading explosives over a much greater area. [9:41] And even if a missile is intercepted, the falling debris can be dangerous. [9:47] And of course, some missiles get through, causing much more damage. [9:51] Because most flights are cancelled, thanks to the missiles, [9:55] the main way home is by crossing the border into Jordan, [9:59] and you pass through the lowest place on land in the world. [10:02] It's more than 400 meters below sea level here, and it can suddenly feel pretty hot. [10:08] So I've now crossed into Jordan, and you feel like you leave [10:12] the intensity of the war behind you, really. [10:15] There's so much more to this region with amazing food, culture, [10:20] a striking geography with all of the surrounding hills. [10:24] And of course, it's such a religiously significant place, but all of those things, [10:31] for now, seem to be eclipsed by the ongoing fighting. [10:35] But of course, that will one day change once more.

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