'The Five': 'EXTREME rhetoric' called out after WHCA Dinner shooting...

[0:00] Brand new calls for liberals to maybe ease up on all the nasty talk, like painting Trump and [0:05] Republicans as Nazis and fascists 24-7. After the shooting, protesters were holding signs saying [0:11] death to tyrants. And that kind of extreme rhetoric from the left isn't hard to find these [0:16] days. Listen to some just from the past week alone with one literally minutes before the shooting [0:22] took place. Correspondents Association was trying to sort of mend some fences [0:27] with the guy who wants us dead, figuratively. So beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an [0:34] expectant widow. We are in an era of maximum warfare. Brian Thompson, as the UnitedHealthcare [0:43] CEO, was engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder. The left's also going nuts with [0:51] conspiracy theories that Trump staged the whole thing. A good chunk of the country thinks this [0:59] was staged. And where? I don't think that. Let me just be clear. I don't think that. But where are [1:05] we in America that the first conclusion so many people reach because of the polarization and because [1:11] of some of the things that our elected officials have done? Folks on the Internet say that this was [1:16] a false flag. To see people say those kinds of things, it is frustrating and it's disturbing. It shows [1:23] the issues that we have to try and fix in this country. Dana, you know, no one likes false flags [1:32] better than I do. And if there was any evidence of a false flag, I would be all over it. I haven't [1:36] seen any here. But why do you think that's the first reaction? Well, I do think that we're living in this [1:43] really crazy time when people will go immediately online and they'll just try, like, just filled their feeds [1:50] all day long, conspiracy theories. And it's the quickest thing to say. I think it's also a way, [1:55] especially for the left, to be like, obviously this is Trump's fault, right? In some way, [2:00] they'll figure it out. You can see from the potential shooters' posts that he had a pretty [2:06] basic diet of resistance lib content, right? It's basically all your left wingers that are, like, [2:13] really out there. And the reality is that if you say Donald Trump is a fascist and an imminent threat [2:18] to your family enough times, people are going to believe you. Some people are going to believe [2:23] you. And that gets to what Greg was saying in the A Block. The problem here is that the incentives [2:26] for Democrats are such that it leads themselves to saying the most inflammatory things possible. [2:31] Go back in the Wayback Machine with me. Do you remember this? Joe Biden, when he was president, [2:35] they made a huge to-do and there was going to be a big announcement and they'd done all of this [2:39] research. And what was it? It was not for, like, a new cancer plan. It wasn't to save Social Security. [2:45] It wasn't a comprehensive immigration reform. It was because they had done a full-on policy rollout [2:50] the day that Joe Biden declared Trump was a semi-fascist. And they had a whole plan. They [2:57] basically gave a big speech. And this was the movement. This is the beginning. This is it. [3:03] They drew the line in the sand that he is a semi-fascist, which gave basically permission [3:08] structure for everyone else to say that. And I think if you look then to the media coverage, [3:13] to the social media, which I think where a lot of this lies, not so much on cable TV, [3:17] although I don't love it, but a lot of this on the social media sites, that's how we got to where [3:21] we are today. Kennedy, in the Kimmel joke, you know, we don't want to police jokes and say [3:26] whatever he wants, but there is an infatuation with assassination jokes. This isn't the first one [3:32] these guys have told. Do you think that plays a role here? [3:36] I think that joke was very dark. I think he probably thought it was funny. And it's much [3:42] less funny in the aftermath of what happened. I don't think there's any way he could have known [3:48] that there would be another assassination attempt on the president in that room. But there was, [3:55] and it's a bad look. And, you know, the same way that he and Colbert have to get back to basics in [4:01] terms of being actually funny. It's the same way that the media has to get off the addictive syringe [4:09] of the conspiracy theories. And Trump is bad. Trump is evil. Trump is Hitler. He's a fascist. [4:15] That's the easiest thing to do. The harder thing to do is to take his policies issue by issue [4:21] and dismantle them. It's the smarter thing to do. It would resonate longer term with voters, [4:27] but they don't want resonation. They want the sugar high. They want the dopamine hit. [4:31] And so they know that the crazier stuff they say, the faster it travels through the algorithm [4:38] and it reaches people on TikTok. And that's how a lot of people get their news nowadays. [4:43] So people like AOC know that all they have to do is call Trump a traitor and a fascist. [4:49] And all of a sudden, you know, they've got 2 million views for their 10 second video. And, [4:56] you know, that counts as victory here. And it counts as money. The money pours in and then they [5:01] stay on their job, Harold. Yeah, I'm still at it. I'm at a different point than you guys are. I think [5:07] that we are at such an awful moment in our country, again, where people think that you resolve these [5:17] kinds of conflicts and disagreements with these kinds of actions. And again, if this is not meant [5:23] to be an insult to anybody around the table, but I think it is, it is dangerously convenient to say, [5:29] well, it's the Democrats that are doing all this. So we don't need to be spoken to like this. [5:34] They wrote a Broadway play about Luigi Mangione. [5:36] The president of the United States called for unity that night. And I'm going to just repeat some words [5:41] for you. In the last two years, who do you think said this? They're monsters. They're evil. They're [5:46] party of hate, evil, and Satan. If I don't win, there will be a bloodbath in this country. [5:53] Oh, come on. That was the hoax, Harold. That was, come on. Don't. Tell me, tell me, tell me. So, Greg, so. [5:59] No, I don't want to. We've had this discussion about the blood. He was talking about the automotive [6:03] industry, Harold. Gee whiz. We're not that dumb. But, but, Greg, the other people may not digest it [6:09] like you're digested. We, my only point to you is, if we believe that this is one, a one-sided thing. [6:15] It is a one-sided thing. Okay. So let me ask you this, Greg. Since the beginning of this year, [6:20] we've had a hundred mass shootings in our country. Yes. Define what those are, please. Tell me where [6:25] they are, where they came from. Do that, Harold, and then I'll listen. But right now you're using a [6:30] stat. Go ahead. Go ahead. Tell me. I won't interrupt. You know what? This is, this is the problem. [6:36] What, what we're, the fact, our closest here, we're having, we can't even let the other [6:40] You're bringing, you're bringing up mass shootings when we're talking about this. Why? [6:44] John, I'm telling you, my point is, violence in our country has become so acceptable to resolve [6:51] simple disputes, including political relationship. The murder rate is the lowest in history, [6:55] Harold. With a hundred mass shootings, meaning four more people. Yes, that's why I think you're, [6:58] you're, you've got to look at your stat. If we have the lowest murders in history, [7:04] what is your mass shooting about? It's, is it about gang violence? Is it about legal handguns [7:08] in, in urban centers? It's four more people being shot, not included, shot, [7:12] injured, or killed, not including the shooter. That's what I define as a mass shooting. So [7:16] since January 1st of this year, we've had 101. Right. Where are they? How are they? [7:20] They've been all across, they've been all across. I bet they're all gang related. They're not, [7:24] none of these are gang related. None? None of these are gang related. A hundred? The one, [7:27] Greg, the night that this happened, brother, in Louisiana, on the University of Indiana, [7:32] Indiana University campus, you had nine people shot because two women got into an altercation [7:37] after midnight over a burger. Okay. We're, we are, we are talking about political violence. [7:41] I'll look up the hundred. But my point is, we have gotten to a point in our country [7:47] where violence is, is, is, is, and again, I understand my argument is not popular here [7:52] at this table, but the reality is, the reality is what it is. And gun violence is excessive, [7:57] irresponsible, and uniquely American. And we need to understand that.