SUPERCUT: Wildest & Most Shocking Confrontations From Pam Bondi's House Judiciary Committee Hearing

[0:00] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning, Attorney General Bondi, right here. We are joined in this [0:07] room by some of the thousands of survivors from Jeffrey Epstein's horrific sex trafficking ring. [0:14] They have shown such incredible courage in speaking out, in demanding accountability to [0:21] bring the predators and pedophiles to justice. The Epstein Files Transparency Act required your [0:28] Department of Justice to disclose the perpetrators connected with Epstein's criminal activities and to [0:34] redact the information of survivors to protect their identities. Let me show you what actually [0:41] happened. First, in violation of the law, your department has shown a pattern of redacting the [0:48] names of powerful predators. Here behind me is one example of an email from Epstein to a man whose [0:56] name was redacted. The email reads, quote, where are you? Are you OK? I loved the torture video. Only [1:08] after members of Congress demanded that we see the unredacted files did the world learn the name [1:15] of this individual, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayam, the chairman and CEO of a company that had financial [1:23] ties to President Trump's business and personal ties to Trump's advisor Steve Bannon. Second, the [1:31] survivors were not similarly protected, also in violation of the law. Here is another email [1:38] titled Epstein victim list. We have blurred the names of the survivors for their protection. But your [1:45] Department of Justice initially released this list of 32 survivors names with only one name redacted. [1:53] along with numerous files that disclosed not only the names, the emails and the addresses of survivors, [2:00] but also nude photographs and even the identities of Jane Doe's who had been protected for decades until [2:09] your department released their names. Survivors are now telling us that their families are finding out for the [2:16] first time that they were trafficked by Epstein. In their words, quote, this release does not provide closure. [2:24] It feels like a deliberate attempt to intimidate survivors, punish those who came forward and reinforce [2:32] the same culture of secrecy that allowed Epstein's crimes to continue for decades. To the survivors in the room, [2:41] if you are willing, please stand. And if you are willing, please raise your hands if you have still not been able to [2:54] meet with this Department of Justice. Please know for the record that every single survivor has raised their hand. [3:04] Attorney General Bondi, you apologize to the survivors in your opening statement for what they went through [3:14] at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein. Will you turn to them now and apologize for what your Department of Justice [3:22] has put them through with the absolutely unacceptable release of the Epstein files and their information? [3:34] Congresswoman, you sat before Merrick Garland sat in this chair twice. [3:46] Attorney General Bondi, can I finish my answer? [3:49] No, I'm going to reclaim my time because I asked you a specific question that I would like you to answer, [3:57] which is will you turn to the survivors? This is not about anybody that came before you. It is about you taking responsibility [4:05] responsibility for your Department of Justice and the harm that it has done to the survivors who are [4:12] standing right behind you and are waiting for you to turn to them and apologize for what your Department of Justice [4:20] has done. Members get to ask the questions. The witnesses get to answer in the way they want to answer. [4:24] The Attorney General can respond. That's not accurate, Mr. Chairman. [4:27] Because she doesn't like the answer. So, Mr. Chairman, why didn't she ask Merrick Garland this twice? [4:36] I am reclaiming my time and when I reclaim my time, it is mine. [4:40] I'm not going to get in the gutter for her theatrics. [4:44] The time belongs to the gentlelady. The gentlelady has 17 seconds. [4:48] Thank you. You're not going to answer this question, so let me just say this. [4:51] Chairman, I'll direct it to you. What a massive cover-up. [4:54] This has been and continues to be. Donald Trump made the release of the Epstein files, the center of his [5:01] political campaign because he thought it would benefit him. [5:04] Then you got into office, Attorney General, claimed to have a client list, [5:09] only to them say that they have a client list. [5:12] I'm not going to get in the gutter with this woman. [5:14] I'm not going to get in the gutter with this woman. [5:16] She's doing theatrics. [5:17] The gentlelady from Washington controls the time. [5:19] The gentlelady has 17 seconds. [5:20] You can proceed with your final 17 seconds. [5:22] Recordlock. [5:23] That could only get in theborn voter declarations and it does, but you [5:26] hod only say The time has ł Sal cor知道s made that list. [5:27] Regular order. [5:28] Only to then say that there was no list. [5:29] Your deputy, Todd Blanch, met alone with Elaine Maxwell and transferred [5:31] her Miranda 주권 foi en termo19ali 활동. [5:32] The time of the gentlelady has expired. [5:33] The time of the gentlelady has expired. [5:33] The time of the gentlelady has expired. [5:34] And now you continue the cover-up. [5:35] The time… [5:36] The time the gentlelady has expired. [5:36] The tiny brave plant. [5:37] The gentlelady has expired. [5:38] And I wish that you would turn around to the survivors who are standing right [5:42] behind you and on a human level. [5:45] Apologizing for that. [5:46] The sので understand the react. [5:47] I yield back. [5:48] Time is, the time of the General Lades expired. [5:50] The General Lades, you have no time to yield back. [5:52] We appreciate that. [5:53] We appreciate the thought. [5:55] The, and I would argue the central issue in the last election, the presidential election, [6:00] was securing the border. [6:01] The gentleman from Arizona who knows something about securing the border is up for five. [6:05] The unanimous consent? [6:07] Yes, please. [6:08] All right, the General Lades recognized. [6:09] Mr. Chair, I have a few unanimous consent requests. [6:12] I would like to submit into the record this New York Times article titled, [6:15] Alex Petty's friends and family denounce sickening lies about his life. [6:19] I also would like to submit this Daily Mail exclusive interview with Vice President J.D. Vance, [6:24] titled, J.D. Vance refuses to apologize to Alex Petty's family after spreading ICE assassin claim. [6:30] One more. [6:31] My last submission request is a New York Times article titled, [6:35] FBI agent who tried to investigate ICE officer in shooting resigns. [6:39] Without objection. [6:40] Thank you. [6:41] The Chair now recognizes the gentlelady from North Carolina. [6:43] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [6:44] Attorney General Bondi, I think you and pretty much everybody else here and throughout the country [6:51] believes that convicted sex offenders don't deserve special treatment or privileges in prison. [6:58] And yet Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirator, received perk after perk in prison. [7:06] In July, she had a two-day interview with your deputy and President Trump's former defense attorney, [7:13] Todd Blanche. [7:14] Just days after that, Maxwell was transferred from a federal correctional institution in Florida [7:21] to a minimum security camp in Texas, which she, as a sex offender, would normally be ineligible for. [7:29] At this new facility, as the ranking member talked about, and by the way, it's nicknamed Club Fed. [7:37] We've heard reports that she's been afforded special privileges, puppy time, private workouts, personal mail, secretarial services. [7:46] Attorney General Bondi, does a convicted sex offender like Ghislaine Maxwell deserve special treatment and privileges in prison? [7:56] Yes or no? [7:56] Let me be crystal clear on this. [7:58] No. [7:59] Thank you. [8:00] Let me keep going. [8:01] Perfect. [8:02] Well, I did not know she was being transferred. [8:04] I asked you yes or no. [8:05] She was not transferred to a lower level. [8:08] Mr. Chairman, please stop the clock and remind the witness of the rules. [8:11] One rule she needs to understand here. [8:12] And I'm glad that we're agreeing. [8:13] So when we're agreeing, we can move on to some other things. [8:16] We are not agreeing with that. [8:17] But I want you to know that every time she does get these perks, and it's been publicly reported, [8:22] that her, the folks she's abused, the survivors who are sitting here, they see themselves as being denied justice. [8:33] They feel re-traumatized. [8:35] And I'm glad that we agree on that. [8:38] But she should not be in that prison. [8:41] And she needs to be moved back to a maximum security prison as soon as possible. [8:48] But what she has told another committee here is that she won't cooperate with them unless she gets clemency from Donald Trump. [8:58] It's just crazy to consider that she can be wielding this kind of influence within the administration. [9:08] But that begs the question, who ordered her to be transferred to the minimum security prison that she was ineligible for? [9:17] Who signed off on the special privileges? [9:19] Was it Mr. Blanche? [9:22] Was it one of your other subordinates? [9:24] So please, can you tell us who sent her there, since you don't agree she should be there? [9:31] I said I do not agree she should receive special treatment. [9:36] She was transferred, I learned after the fact, to the same level facility. [9:41] And that is a question for the Bureau of Prisons. [9:43] I was not involved in that at all. [9:45] The same level facility. [9:47] I don't know why. [9:48] But, you know, instead of talking about Gerlaine Maxwell, who hopefully will die in prison, hopefully will die in prison, you should be talking about Irina Zarutska. [9:56] I have a couple of other questions. [9:58] Who died on a subway. [9:59] Right. [9:59] And I absolutely... [10:00] You don't talk about that. [10:01] I have been talking about it and actually helping with these issues. [10:05] But we're going to move back to you. [10:07] I bet we are. [10:08] Yes, of course, because you're here to testify. [10:11] That's what the whole point of this endeavor is. [10:14] So, of course, we're moving back to you. [10:16] It is all about you. [10:17] So, as we've heard, she took the fifth in response to every single question in that committee hearing. [10:27] And her lawyer dangled the offer of clemency. [10:32] Should Donald Trump pardon or commute her sentence? [10:38] Should she be released from prison, yes or no? [10:41] You said you hope she dies there, so I'm hoping the answer is no. [10:44] I already answered that question. [10:46] Good. [10:47] I'm very glad. [10:48] I really like this bipartisan agreement about what should happen. [10:52] Well, when it agrees with you. [10:53] But you don't want to talk about Irina Zarutska. [10:56] You don't want to talk about... [10:57] I talk about her all the time. [10:58] Murdered by a violent crime of anger in your jurisdiction. [10:59] But I am not here to testify before Congress. [11:03] You are. [11:04] That is your job today. [11:05] That's what you're getting paid for. [11:06] You're obsessed with attacks. [11:07] Time belongs to the mayor. [11:09] I want you to know that your own DOJ employees, [11:14] he's recently been demoted and had some other problems, [11:17] advises on pardons. [11:19] Do you think he will be advising Mr. Trump [11:22] on any kind of clemency or pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell? [11:30] I'm not going to speculate. [11:31] And you couldn't even identify properly. [11:35] That's why you don't want to talk about Irina Zarutska. [11:37] You couldn't properly identify her relative. [11:41] I absolutely... [11:42] It's embarrassing. [11:44] ...have been... [11:45] And her family, by the way, [11:47] appreciates all of the condolences, [11:51] all of the help, [11:52] everything that our law enforcement in North Carolina [11:55] has been doing to help her family. [11:58] Her family feels well-treated. [12:00] Thank you, and I yield back. [12:01] Mr. General. [12:01] The gentleman from California is recognized. [12:03] I'd ask unanimous consent to enter into the record [12:06] an article by former Attorney General William P. Barr [12:08] entitled, [12:09] Why Pam Bondi didn't... [12:10] Quote, [12:11] If you come for law enforcement, [12:12] the Trump administration will come for you. [12:14] End quote. [12:15] I want to show you just a brief video. [12:18] It's about 30 seconds, [12:19] and I'll ask you a couple questions about it. [12:20] You're disgusting. [12:24] I'm former law enforcement. [12:26] You're disgusting. [12:27] You are the Nazi. [12:28] You are the Gestapo, [12:29] and you can't see it, [12:30] because you're chasing your pension, right? [12:32] Pension. [12:32] Your retirement, right? [12:34] That's what runs your life, your retirement. [12:35] And the sad thing is, [12:36] they're not even going to get their pension, [12:38] because it's going to be more close. [12:39] Attorney General Bondi, [12:58] that man works for you now, right? [13:01] Who was that, congressman? [13:06] The man in that video, [13:07] the one who was in the police-worn body cam footage, [13:11] the one allegedly yelling, [13:13] kill him, [13:13] at police officers on January 6th, [13:17] his name is Jared Wise. [13:18] He does work for us. [13:19] He works for you at the Department of Justice. [13:21] He does. [13:22] This is an individual [13:23] whom a federal grand jury indicted [13:26] for two felonies and four misdemeanors [13:29] related to his participation [13:30] in the attack on January 6th. [13:33] One of those charges was forcibly assaulting, [13:35] resisting, opposing, impeding, intimidating, [13:37] and interfering with police [13:39] with the intent to commit another felony. [13:42] This is who you choose [13:44] as the chief law enforcement officer [13:46] of the United States of America [13:48] to hire at the Department of Justice. [13:50] Someone on video yelling, [13:53] kill him, at police officers, right? [13:57] I believe he was pardoned by President Trump. [14:00] Oh, he was pardoned. [14:01] You're right. [14:01] You're right. [14:04] Pardoned by President Trump [14:05] for his offense. [14:08] Pardoned for yelling, [14:09] kill him, at police officers. [14:11] And yet you expect [14:12] hardworking police officers [14:14] across the country to believe [14:15] that you take law enforcement seriously. [14:19] You could imagine the reaction [14:22] of so many folks across the country [14:25] hearing the chief law enforcement officer [14:28] of the United States refuse [14:30] to even condemn what that individual [14:33] whom you've now hired did. [14:36] But in any event, [14:38] let's talk a little bit [14:39] about some of the other divisions [14:40] within the Department of Justice [14:41] and what's happened over the last year. [14:44] You're familiar with the public integrity section [14:45] of the DOJ's criminal division. [14:47] I think it's referred to as PIN. [14:49] Is that right? [14:50] Yes. [14:50] Okay. [14:51] Do you know which presidential administration [14:53] under which the PIN was first created? [14:56] I can tell you what administration [14:58] that the weaponization was ended under. [15:00] I'll reclaim my time. [15:01] This wasn't a trick question, [15:02] You don't get to reclaim your time. [15:04] Madam Attorney General. [15:05] Because I don't like him. [15:06] Mr. Chairman, [15:06] Madam Attorney General, [15:09] the time belongs to the gentleman from Colorado. [15:12] The president under which PIN was created [15:14] was Gerald Ford. [15:15] It was created after Waterloo. [15:16] I'm not asking a question, [15:17] Madam Attorney General. [15:18] The administration under which it was created [15:20] was Gerald Ford. [15:21] When you first started [15:22] as the Attorney General of the United States, [15:23] there were 35 people working in that office. [15:25] There are now two people working in that office [15:27] because you have gutted it. [15:28] How many people work for the national cryptocurrency [15:31] in four years of the United States [15:34] enforcement team in the criminal division today? [15:42] Can I answer the question about PIN? [15:44] I've asked you a question. [15:45] How many people work- [15:46] You've asked me a question, [15:47] but you don't want the answer. [15:48] How many people work for the national [15:49] cryptocurrency enforcement team? [15:51] You won't answer how many people- [15:52] I'll answer PIN. [15:55] PIN will not be weaponized. [15:57] You know what? [15:58] What's funny about this? [15:59] Madam Attorney General, [16:00] I'll say to the chairman. [16:01] What's funny about this? [16:02] Madam Attorney General, [16:03] you know what the answer is, [16:04] and I understand why the Attorney General [16:05] does not want to answer the question [16:06] that the President has eliminated the national cryptocurrency [16:08] enforcement team last year. [16:09] So I understand why you don't want to tell [16:10] the American people who works there. [16:11] Yeah, I understand why you don't want to talk about [16:13] Mohammed Solomon in your district. [16:15] In any event- [16:16] Who murdered people- [16:17] Mr. Chairman, will you stop the clock [16:18] so his time is not wasted by the witness? [16:19] I've been very generous with allowing extra time [16:22] when we have these little disputes. [16:24] I understand. [16:25] You've got the time, Mr. Goose. [16:26] I might as well ask the chairman these questions. [16:29] I'd be happy to answer some of your questions. [16:30] What's profound- [16:32] The questions I've asked- [16:33] Profound? [16:34] The crime in your district? [16:35] The questions I've asked, Mr. Chairman, [16:36] are not trick questions. [16:39] They're not gotcha questions. [16:40] They're actually basic questions [16:42] about how the Department of Justice functions. [16:44] And the unwillingness of this Attorney General [16:47] to answer them in good faith. [16:49] When a member of Congress asks [16:51] how many people work at the National Cryptocurrency Enforcement Team [16:54] and the Attorney General refuses to answer it, [16:57] it is not a coincidence. [17:00] It's because she eliminated the team. [17:02] Why? [17:03] Because her boss, the President of the United States, [17:06] is making money hand over fist, [17:08] $1.4 billion over the course of the last year [17:12] through cryptocurrency holdings. [17:14] I think what is happening at the Department of Justice [17:16] is a disgrace, Mr. Chairman. [17:19] And I would urge you to gain control of this hearing. [17:23] With that, I yield back the balance of my time. [17:27] Yeah. [17:28] I would ask the gentleman does he agree [17:30] with the standing up of the Deputy Attorney General [17:34] for dealing with fraud. [17:35] That's something that's happened in this administration, [17:38] first time. [17:39] You talked about Penn. [17:40] That happened with this Justice Department. [17:41] We're talking about this committee. [17:42] Mr. Chairman, had you answered the question, [17:44] had the Attorney General answered the question in that way, [17:47] perhaps this hearing would have some modicum [17:50] of resembling something that has typically been fairly conventional, [17:55] an oversight hearing of the Department of Justice. [17:57] That is not this. [17:58] The gentleman's time has expired. [17:59] The gentlelady from Wyoming, New York, is recognized. [18:02] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [18:03] Ms. Bondi, I went over to the department yesterday [18:05] for a couple of hours to review some of the unredacted materials. [18:09] And I am looking forward to your detailed explanation [18:13] for why you have withheld almost half of the documents, [18:16] which is required by the bill. [18:18] Now, obviously, there are three million documents, [18:21] so I didn't get through much. [18:22] But one thing I didn't see was the client list [18:27] that you said you had on your desk a year ago. [18:29] I did, however, find a couple of important documents. [18:33] An 86-page prosecution memo from the Southern District of New York, [18:38] and a draft indictment from Florida [18:40] against Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirators. [18:43] For reasons that I cannot understand nor are permitted by the bill, [18:48] they were still redacted even for members of Congress. [18:53] So, Ms. Bondi, will you commit right here [18:56] to immediately providing those two documents [19:00] in unredacted form to members of Congress? [19:03] Not a complicated question. [19:08] Well, I guess it is for you because you have a law degree [19:12] and those are privileged. [19:15] Okay. [19:16] They're not privileged, but we will discuss that later. [19:19] I also found an email that I have right here [19:22] from Jeffrey Epstein to Ghislaine Maxwell [19:26] that was unredacted, and it included notes of statements [19:30] that Donald Trump made about his prior relationship [19:33] with Jeffrey Epstein. [19:34] Now, there is no reason for this to be hidden [19:37] from the American people. [19:39] There is no privilege. [19:41] There is no attorney-client privilege, [19:43] and I see you're checking with your staff, [19:45] and I can assure you, staff, [19:47] this is not under attorney-client privilege [19:49] because it was sent from Jeffrey Epstein [19:51] to Ghislaine Maxwell. [19:54] Will you commit to publicly providing [19:57] the unredacted version of this [19:59] so that the American people can understand [20:01] the extent of Donald Trump's lies [20:04] about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? [20:07] You're about as good of a lawyer today as you were [20:10] when you tried to impeach President Trump in 2016. [20:13] Have you apologized for that in 2019? [20:15] So, will you unredact this? [20:17] Will you unredact this? [20:18] You were lead counsel on that. [20:19] Privileged. [20:20] I'm asking you. [20:21] Will you unredact this? [20:22] Privileged. [20:23] Privileged, of course. [20:25] I look forward to discussing this more. [20:27] I'm asking you. [20:28] I'm asking you. [20:29] I'm asking you. [20:30] I'm asking you. [20:31] I'm asking you. [20:32] I'm asking you. [20:33] Quiet. [20:34] Don't yell at me. [20:35] If they're not privileged. [20:36] Mr. Chairman, would you stop the clock? [20:37] This is on your time. [20:38] It's not on Mr. Goher. [20:39] Even though you used your improper redactions. [20:42] You'll like my answer. [20:43] If we review them and they're not privileged, [20:44] you will be happy to release them. [20:48] We'll stop the clock. [20:49] We'll stop the clock. [20:50] Time belongs to the member. [20:51] Go ahead. [20:52] Even though you used improper redactions to protect [20:56] Donald Trump and other predators associated with Jeffrey Epstein, [21:00] you did the exact opposite thing with the survivors and victims of this scheme. [21:05] So, their identification information was really the only thing required to be redacted. [21:11] And it was not. [21:12] And it's clear this was not a mistake. [21:14] This was not by accident. [21:16] This was not because you only had 30 days when you really used 75. [21:20] And that doesn't even include all the hours last March that you were redacting it. [21:25] But I'll tell you why it's clear it wasn't a mistake. [21:29] There is an email entitled Epstein Victim List. [21:34] There are 32 names. [21:36] One is redacted. [21:37] 31 are not. [21:39] So someone looked at it and decided to redact something. [21:43] And I will tell you that that is clearly intentional to intimidate people [21:48] to intimidate these survivors and victims. [21:51] Now, in an interview last week. [21:55] How will you tell me that's intentional? [21:57] In an interview last week, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. [22:02] You can't go off script. [22:03] Said that any victim that wants to speak with the department has done so, hopefully. [22:09] Well, thanks to the incredibly brave people sitting here behind you, [22:12] we can actually ask them if that's true. [22:14] Now, with the survivors and victims who are here, please stand up one more time. [22:19] Just by show of hands, how many of you or your loved ones actually have met with the Department of Justice [22:27] and provided testimony and estimate and evidence? None. [22:34] And of those of you who have not met, which is everyone, how many of you have reached out, [22:39] either individually or through a lawyer or representative, to offer to provide testimony and evidence? [22:47] All of them. [22:50] And of those of you, all of you who have reached out, how many of you were denied or ignored by the Department of Justice? [22:58] All of them. [23:00] And despite the shameful and despicable efforts by Ms. Bondi and her department to intimidate you, [23:07] how many of you are still willing to speak to the Department of Justice? [23:12] All of them. [23:14] Well, Ms. Bondi, it looks like you have some more witnesses to talk to. [23:17] Gentlemen, the time has expired. [23:18] And I yield back. [23:19] We will go to the good gentleman from North Carolina, Congressman Knott. [23:22] Thank you. [23:23] May I have a moment, Congressman? [23:24] Yes, ma'am. [23:25] Thank you. [23:26] Here we go. [23:29] Here's the photograph. [23:30] This is why he wanted to repeat everything that had been said previously on Epstein. [23:35] This is his state. [23:37] New York. [23:38] You probably don't even know who this is. [23:40] Waheed Mohammed from Afghanistan. [23:42] Yes, because I'm no longer a prosecutor. [23:44] Convicted of assault. [23:45] Wow. [23:46] He represents New York. [23:48] Wow. [23:49] Yet he doesn't care about the illegal aliens convicted of crimes. [23:54] Assault and homicide. [23:56] No longer a prosecutor, so he doesn't care about his constituents. [24:00] Here we go. [24:01] Arson. [24:02] El Salvador. [24:03] Miguel Palacios. [24:04] Furman. [24:08] Flores. [24:09] Ramalas. [24:10] Mexico. [24:11] Rape. [24:12] Let's talk about the 70% of immigrants who are detained without a criminal conviction [24:18] or arrest. [24:19] Stop the clock. [24:20] Stop the clock. [24:21] Time belongs to Congressman Knott. [24:22] It's expired. [24:23] The delays recognize. [24:24] Thank you. [24:26] I seek unanimous consent to introduce into the record the research that Representative [24:31] Kamlager Dove and I referenced concerning the threat of right-wing domestic terrorism, [24:35] which the Department of Justice scrubbed from its website in September. [24:38] Without objection, the general lady from Texas is recognized. [24:41] Thank you. [24:42] Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman. [24:43] And to be clear, I'm not going to ask any questions of this witness because this witness [24:46] has revealed that she has no intentions of answering questions. [24:49] But instead, I'm going to ask some very basic questions really quickly of my colleague, [24:53] Rebecca Ballant, if she will answer right or wrong, raping children. [24:56] Wrong. [24:58] Right or wrong, killing random citizens. [25:00] Definitely wrong. [25:01] Right or wrong, enriching yourself as the sitting President of the United States. [25:06] Definitely wrong. [25:07] Okay. [25:08] Thank you. [25:09] Because I probably never would have got that with our witness. [25:10] Our witness who somehow is a lawyer but does not understand how it works with witnesses. [25:14] I'm not really sure what law school she went to and what all kind of cases she tried. [25:19] But typically, when you come into a space and somebody is a witness, then they sit there [25:23] and they answer questions instead of asking questions. [25:26] And then we also have this objection that we use as lawyers called non-responsive when [25:31] a witness fails to actually answer the question. [25:33] But nevertheless, let me address the survivors because that's exactly who they are. [25:38] They are not victims. [25:39] They are survivors. [25:40] Let me say thank you for having more courage and moral clarity in your pinky fingers than the [25:45] entire Department of Justice. [25:47] We are currently the laughing stock of the world partially because of the failed leadership [25:52] within the DOJ as we see kings and queens falling everywhere around the world. [25:57] But we don't know the basics of right and wrong in this country. [26:00] Because it's not about partisanship. [26:02] And that's why I applaud Thomas Massey. [26:04] Because he's the only person on the Republican side that has a backbone and knows how to stand [26:09] up to corruption. [26:10] But nevertheless, let me keep going. [26:12] My Democratic colleagues have been attacked this entire committee hearing. [26:17] They have been lied on. [26:18] And frankly, the American people weren't looking for that. [26:21] They were looking for answers about the corruption that they see coming from this administration. [26:25] In the written testimony of this witness, of this particular witness, she stated that when [26:32] she took office, she had two main goals. [26:35] The first was to end the weaponization of justice. [26:38] And second, to return the department to its core mission. [26:41] Not only have you lied about both, you've intentionally done the exact opposite. [26:46] You're spending more taxpayer resources arresting journalists than you are prosecuting pedophiles [26:51] and creeps. [26:52] In fact, your boss, the President of the United States, stated that this administration, [26:56] quote, took the freedom of speech away. [26:59] And at your direction, DOJ has arrested Don Lemon and Georgia Fort. [27:03] And I might add that y'all actually had a judge that rejected y'all for trying to arrest Don Lemon [27:09] before. [27:10] Just like the grand jury rejected y'all as it relates to Senator Kelly. [27:14] Just like a grand jury rejected y'all as it relates to Senator Slotkin. [27:18] Just like the case against Tish James was dismissed and the case against Mr. Comey was dismissed. [27:24] I completely don't get how it is that you're sitting at the top of DOJ because you don't seem to be good at your job. [27:30] You're spending more taxpayer resources arresting these journalists. [27:33] In fact, we know after Georgia Fort and Don Lemon were arrested, we know that there were homes of journalists that were raided. [27:43] We know that threatened prosecution against students protesting your actions and forced tech companies to remove apps used to track ISIS activities. [27:53] But let's circle back to you protecting pedophiles and creeps because I want to talk about the President and his possible involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. [28:01] Now, I don't know what the President might have done with Jeffrey Epstein. [28:04] But unlike this administration, I believe that facts matter. [28:07] So let's talk about the facts. [28:08] Fact number one, Donald Trump is one of the most named people in the Epstein files. [28:12] At least 5,000 files contains more than 38,000 references to Trump, his wife, or Mar-a-Lago. [28:20] Fact number two, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell made young girls available to Trump on multiple occasions. [28:27] For example, according to this file, Ghislaine Maxwell presented a young girl to President Trump who spent more than 20 minutes apparently flirting with her. [28:36] Here's another example. [28:38] This shows notes from FBI investigators that describe Jeffrey Epstein transporting a victim to Mar-a-Lago to meet with President Trump where he bragged to Trump that, quote, this is a good one. [28:48] Now, I'm not saying that the President is a pedophile, but there is a lot of evidence in these files that suggest that he's very close friends with a lot of men who are pedophiles. [28:56] What's crazy about all of this is just that this is a big cover-up and this administration is engaged in it. [29:04] In fact, this administration is complicit. [29:06] But there are numerous others like how the DOJ is attempting to obstruct justice in the investigation of the rogue agents who have murdered American citizens or how the DOJ sees voter data from Fulton County in an attempt to steal the 2026 midterm elections or how federal agents have Tom Homan on tape accepting a bribe and your agency killed the investigation. [29:25] Or how your agency is ready to give the president a $230 million payday, which is unconstitutional. [29:32] The Constitution is clear. [29:33] The president shall not receive any payment except his salary while in office. [29:38] The fact of the matter is that you will be remembered as one of the worst attorney generals in history. [29:42] An attorney general who has prioritized obstruction over justice, corruption over the law, fealty to the president, over loyalty to the Constitution. [29:50] And, Mr. Chairman, I will yield. [29:52] General Lady Yields, the gentleman from Missouri is recognized. [29:54] Excuse me, the gentleman from Kansas, the attorney general, former attorney general. [29:58] Mr. Schmidt is recognized. [30:00] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [30:01] And, General Bondi, thanks for being here. [30:03] Did you have anything you wanted to say before we talk? [30:05] I do. [30:06] Thank you, Congressman. [30:07] Thank you, my friend, for many years. [30:09] I find it interesting that she didn't even want to try, Congresswoman Crockett, to ask any questions because she certainly did not condemn her leader, Hakeem Jeffries, for taking money from Jeffrey Epstein after Epstein was convicted. [30:26] And I will be brief to give you your time, Congressman. [30:29] This is what she didn't want to talk about. [30:31] Texas, from Cuba, convicted, homicide, arson, weapon offense. [30:37] Convicted, so what are we talking about? [30:40] Convict some of these perpetrators that rape these women that are sitting behind you that you refuse to even acknowledge they are here. [30:48] Time belongs to the gentleman from Kansas. [30:51] Mr. Chairman, could I have a few seconds back to make up for the yelling? [30:54] Thank you. [30:55] General, did you have anything further to say? [30:57] Texas, convicted of homicide. [30:59] Cecil Joseph, from Dominican Republic. [31:02] Texas, convicted for kidnapping, rape. [31:06] Khalid Khan, from Afghanistan. [31:10] That's why they want to talk about Epstein and not what's happening in their own states. [31:17] Thank you, General, and thank you for being here. [31:20] And this has been quite a spectacle to observe today. [31:24] I think it's sad. [31:26] I ran for Congress because I thought we had serious problems in this country we wanted to try to fix together. [31:30] And this performance today, not yours, General, but some of my colleagues, has not shored up my confidence that we are up to the task. [31:38] You and I served together for eight years when you were Attorney General of Florida and I in Kansas. [31:44] You served professionally. [31:45] I'm glad to be able to serve with you in these new roles. [31:47] Thank you. [31:48] Time of the gentleman has expired. [31:49] I have a UC, Mr. Chairman. [31:50] And that is the general aide from Texas. [31:53] I ask unanimous consent to enter into the record. [31:56] El Paso airspace reopened after FAA quickly rescinds 10-day flights restriction. [32:02] This was published by the Texas Tribune on February 11, 2026. [32:06] And it says it was because of an impasse with the DOD over the use of unmanned military aircraft. [32:12] Without objection. [32:13] And not triggered by Mexican cartel drones. [32:16] Without objection. [32:17] Point of order, Mr. Chairman. [32:19] I didn't hear back about the second round of questions. [32:21] I assume that's not happening. [32:22] I just want to be able to assure the members, certainly on my side, if not both sides. [32:27] That's not a point of order. [32:28] That every member will get five minutes with the witness. [32:33] Will there be five minutes for each? [32:34] Yeah, you'll get five minutes. [32:35] Yeah. [32:36] With the witness. [32:37] Okay, very good. [32:39] Yeah. [32:40] Okay. [32:41] And are you up next? [32:42] The gentleman from New York is recognized. [32:45] Mr. Chairman, I want to begin by acknowledging the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's horrific abuse [32:50] who are in the room with us today. [32:52] I want to thank all of you for your bravery in speaking out. [32:55] I want to say that you and the other survivors of these heinous crimes deserve better from this [33:01] Department of Justice. [33:02] In particular, it is shocking that the Department did not redact the names of Epstein's victims, [33:08] but it did redact the names of their abusers. [33:11] I don't know whether this was done out of incompetence or whether it was deliberate and malicious, [33:16] but either way, it is completely unacceptable. [33:20] Even more troubling, the DOJ has failed to bring any of these perpetrators to justice. [33:24] Instead, it has engaged in a relentless pursuit of Donald Trump's perceived enemies. [33:30] I want to focus on just one example. [33:32] The Attorney General of my home state of New York, Tish James. [33:36] This DOJ has been hell-bent on securing an indictment against Ms. James for something, [33:42] anything, simply because she held Donald Trump's companies accountable for years of financial fraud. [33:48] And indeed, the Department manufactured an investigation against her for alleged, quote, [33:52] mortgage fraud. [33:54] But the U.S. Attorney leading the investigation, Eric Siebert, a Trump appointee, refused to bring charges against Ms. James because there was simply no evidence. [34:03] Unfortunately, a prosecutor who refuses to do Trump's bidding has no place in this DOJ, so Mr. Siebert was forced out. [34:12] Trump could not contain his fury, fury that he expressed to you in a social media post addressed to you by name. [34:20] I'm sure you've seen it. [34:21] Quote, [34:22] Quote, [34:23] You hired him and there is a great case he wrote to you about, Mr. Siebert. [34:26] Then we moved down. [34:27] We can't delay any longer. [34:29] It's killing our reputation and credibility. [34:31] They impeached me twice and indicted me five times over nothing. [34:36] Justice must be served now. [34:38] And obviously, you followed that order. [34:42] Lindsay Halligan, Trump's former defense lawyer who had never prosecuted the case in her life, was installed to replace Mr. Siebert. [34:50] And it was clear that part of her mandate was to go after Ms. James. [34:54] Halligan immediately saw an indictment, which her court dismissed because Halligan was illegally put into the road. [35:00] But your department was undeterred. [35:02] And not once, but twice, it tried to indict Attorney General James in separate courts. [35:07] Both grand juries rejected you and refused to indict her. [35:12] It is practically unheard of for a grand jury to refuse an indictment. [35:15] In 2016, it happened in just six cases out of over 150,000 offenses. [35:22] And you had it happened twice in the same week in two different courts. [35:27] That must have been humiliating. [35:29] And now there are reports that you are continuing to investigate her. [35:32] The amount of resources that have gone into targeting Attorney General James. [35:37] Months of investigations, multiple failed indictments is astounding. [35:41] Since your own prosecutors told you that there is not enough evidence to support a conviction, [35:46] it's clear that you are going after her simply because she held President Trump accountable and he wants to punish her. [35:54] And she is just one name on a long list of Trump political enemies that DOJ is reportedly targeting. [36:00] From Jerome Powell and Lisa Cook at the Federal Reserve to James Comey, numerous Democratic members of Congress, [36:06] John Brennan, Jack Smith, Democratic officials of Minnesota, Chris Krebs, Miles Taylors and more. [36:12] And those are just the ones we know about. [36:14] In contrast to these politically motivated investigations, grasping at something they can charge their enemies with. [36:20] We now have concrete evidence of disgusting criminality revealed in the Epstein files. [36:25] So I have just so I really have just one question for you. [36:29] How many of Epstein's co-conspirators have you indicted? [36:32] How many perpetrators are you even investigating? [36:36] First, you showed it, I find it. [36:46] How many have you indicted? [36:47] Excuse me, I'm going to answer the question. [36:49] Answer my question. [36:50] No, I'm going to answer the question the way I want to answer the question. [36:53] Your theatrics are ridiculous. [36:54] No, you're going to answer the question the way I asked it. [36:56] Chairman Jordan, I'm not going to get in the gutter with these people, but I'm going to answer the question. [37:00] How many of you indicted? [37:01] Again, the time belongs to the [37:02] Reclaiming my time. [37:03] The time belongs to the [37:04] I think it's very interesting. [37:05] Reclaiming my time. [37:06] I think it's very interesting. [37:07] Reclaiming my time. [37:08] You can reclaim your time. [37:09] He talks about they indicted. [37:10] The president said they indicted him twice. [37:12] They sure did. [37:13] They indicted. [37:14] Oh, okay. [37:15] Here we go with these theatrics. [37:17] The time belongs to the gentleman from New York. [37:20] We will give you a few more seconds. [37:22] We will do that. [37:23] But when you ask a question, the witness gets to answer. [37:25] You may not like the answer, but she gets to answer. [37:28] The question was, how many of Epstein's [37:30] They don't like the answer, chairman? [37:32] Reclaiming my time. [37:33] Because it's honest. [37:34] Reclaiming my time. [37:35] So he asked a four-minute question. [37:37] Reclaiming my time. [37:38] And I am going to answer. [37:41] You can let her filibuster all day long, but not on our watch. [37:44] Reclaiming? [37:45] Not on our time. [37:46] No way. [37:47] And I told you about that, attorney general, before you started. [37:49] You don't tell me anything. [37:50] Yeah, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate. [37:52] He's a lawyer. [37:53] Not even a lawyer. [37:54] Committee will be in order. [37:55] I should get back at least 45 seconds. [37:57] We will give you a few more seconds. [37:58] I said that already. [37:59] Not a few more seconds. [38:00] 45 seconds. [38:01] Okay. [38:02] I'm timing right now, Mr. Natalie. [38:03] All right. [38:04] My time. [38:05] The answer to my question, how many of Epstein's co-conspirators has she indicted, is zero. [38:10] You have been the attorney general for a whole year. [38:13] And your DOJ fired the lead prosecutor of this case, sat on evidence this entire time, [38:19] and claimed falsely last July that there were no more leads. [38:22] It took an act of Congress for you to finally release part of the Epstein files, and when [38:26] you did, you included personal information about the victims while protecting the names [38:31] of abusers. [38:32] Time of the gentleman has expired. [38:33] None of the perpetrators have been brought to justice. [38:35] But enormous resources dedicated to pursuing Trump's union. [38:38] Time of the gentleman has expired. [38:39] It's clear that under your leadership, the Department of Justice no longer works as [38:42] American people. [38:43] There was no question in there. [38:44] It works. [38:45] Donald Trump. [38:46] I yield back. [38:47] The gentleman yields back. [38:48] May I answer? [38:50] I think our next question, Madam Attorney General, is going to give you time to respond to all [38:55] kinds of things. [38:56] Thank you, Chairman. [38:57] So we will turn to the gentleman from Texas for five minutes. [38:59] Ms. Bondi, you go right ahead. [39:01] Over here. [39:03] The time is yours. [39:04] Thank you. [39:06] First, he brought up the President saying they indicted me twice. [39:11] They sure did. [39:12] They tried to impeach him twice. [39:14] And you, Mr. Nadler, were one of the leads on the impeachment. [39:18] I was on the other side. [39:19] I lived that with you. [39:21] During impeachment, you said the President conspired, sought foreign interference in [39:26] the 2016 election. [39:28] Robert Mueller found no evidence, none, of foreign interference in 2016. [39:34] Have you apologized to President Trump? [39:37] Have you apologized to President Trump, all of you who participated in those impeachment [39:42] hearings against Donald Trump? [39:44] You all should be apologizing. [39:46] You sit here and you attack the President, and I am not going to have it. [39:50] I'm not going to put up with it. [39:52] You know, all they want to do, all the American people need to know this. [39:57] They are talking about Epstein today. [39:59] This has been around since the Obama administration. [40:03] This administration released over 3 million pages of documents. [40:09] Over 3 million. [40:10] And Donald Trump signed that law to release all of those documents. [40:16] He is the most transparent president in the nation's history. [40:21] And none of them, none of them ask Merrick Garland over the last four years one word about [40:31] Jeffrey Epstein. [40:32] How ironic is that? [40:33] You know why? [40:34] Because Donald Trump, the Dow, the Dow right now is over, the Dow is over $50,000. [40:43] I don't know why you're laughing. [40:44] You're a great stock trader, as I hear, Raskin. [40:47] The Dow is over $50,000 right now. [40:51] The S&P at almost $7,000. [40:54] And the NASDAQ smashing records. [40:58] Americans' 401Ks and retirement savings are booming. [41:03] That's what we should be talking about. [41:05] We should be talking about making Americans safe. [41:09] We should be talking about, what does a Dow have to do with anything? [41:12] That's what they just asked. [41:13] Are you kidding? [41:15] Mr. Jordan, Mr. Jordan. [41:17] The committee will be in order. [41:20] Mr. Jordan, am I going to get an extra 45 seconds added to my time? [41:24] The committee will be in order. [41:25] The time belongs to the gentleman from Texas. [41:28] Ms. Bondi, the Attorney General can respond. [41:30] Thank you. [41:32] The Dow has shattered $50,000 for the first time. [41:37] This is crazy. [41:38] They said it couldn't be done in four years, yet President Trump has done it in one year. [41:46] National median rents have fallen to a four-year low, thanks to Donald Trump. [41:52] That's why they want to focus on Epstein and our most transparent president in the nation's history. [42:01] The murder rate, as I said, has plummeted to a 125-year low, thanks to Donald Trump. [42:10] For an unprecedented nine straight months, there were zero illegal border crossings at the southern border. [42:24] That's what we should be focused on. [42:27] All the great work that this president has done and will continue to do to keep America safe and to make Americans safe. [42:36] Thank you, Attorney General Bondi. [42:39] I agree with you totally. [42:40] I think you've done a fine job. [42:41] I think that Democrats, in fact, should be apologizing to the Epstein victims for doing nothing during the four years that they were running the government. [42:49] We did not hear about this. [42:50] And it took you and President Trump to finally provide transparency and give answers to the American people. [42:56] And I want to thank you for that. [42:57] I want to thank you also for standing up for truth today and for fighting back against the theatrics and the time waste that you will endure over the next hour or two. [43:09] I want to apologize on behalf of my colleagues on the left. [43:12] They're not all that bad, but they've got to put on a show. [43:15] And I'm sorry that you have to go through that. [43:18] And I would like to yield the last, I'd say 40, but 40 is 80 seconds. [43:22] The clock says 40, but I've got 80 seconds since I was so rudely interrupted. [43:26] And I'll give all 80 seconds to Chairman Jordan. [43:28] And I would just yield to the attorney general if she has anything to add. [43:32] I'm fine to continue. [43:37] Thank you, Chairman. [43:38] All right. [43:39] The chair now recognizes, the gentleman yields back. [43:40] The chair recognizes the general aide from California. [43:43] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [43:44] I would note that Mr. Nadler's proper fashion as you have. [43:48] Secondly, I'd like to thank all of the victims of the Epstein case who've come here to attend this hearing for doing it and for being brave and trying to move this justice forward. [43:59] I apologize. [44:00] I can't do it, but the attorney general not recognizing you, that's embarrassing. [44:04] I am from Memphis, General Bondi. [44:06] And Memphis does have the task force there. [44:10] The Memphis Safe Task Force has been operating in Memphis for several months. [44:13] And we do have a Democratic mayor, Paul Young. [44:15] And he's not against the task force. [44:17] But he is against ICE being in Memphis. [44:19] And he's not in favor of the National Guard being in Memphis. [44:22] And I concur with him on those positions. [44:24] I think the DEA being there, the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, the FBI, who have been in Memphis in other ways, having more people there, is good for Memphis. [44:32] Crime has gone down in Memphis. [44:34] But it went down 25 percent before the task force got there under the direction of Mary Young and Director Davis, Chief Davis. [44:42] It's gone down about 15 percent more since then. [44:45] And that's good. [44:46] But I would like to comment that Mexico City's homicide rate has gone down 40 percent during the same time when Memphis' has only gone down 25 percent. [44:55] And that's not necessarily because of the task force, although the mayor says he thinks it's helped. [45:01] So I thank you for that. [45:03] You would agree, I presume, that violent crime in communities across our country is critically important. [45:09] And that's why the task force is there. [45:10] Is that not true? [45:11] Yes. [45:14] And if I can just add to that, I think the surge, the FBI, our FBI under the leadership of Director Patel, came in and did a surge in Memphis. [45:21] Earlier. [45:22] Prior. [45:23] Yes. [45:24] Right. [45:25] Prior to the task force. [45:26] And thank you for saying that about Mayor Young. [45:28] He's been great to work with. [45:30] And thank you. [45:31] He's a good guy. [45:32] He's a very good guy. [45:33] One problem I've got with where we are in priorities here. [45:39] A recent Department of Justice National Institute of Justice report based on arrest records in Texas and in California found that undocumented immigrants were less than half as likely as U.S. born Americans to be arrested for homicide. [45:51] And this pattern holds for assault, sexual assault, robbery, burglary, theft, and arson. [45:56] Half as likely to be addressed for drug offenses. [45:58] So I ask you, and I've written to you about this, there are TV ads that run that say to local law enforcement specifically, are you tired of having your hands handcuffed because you can't do the things you wanted to do when you joined? [46:12] And if you want to do something different, join ICE and you'll get a $50,000 bonus and we'll pay off your student debts and we'll help you with pensions, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. [46:22] So they're encouraging local law enforcement to leave local law enforcement and go to work for ICE. [46:27] We need people working in the front lines of local law enforcement to protect our citizens from the worst of the worst. [46:33] The worst of the worst are not the immigrants. [46:35] The worst of the worst records show are native born Americans and they are committing crimes that hurt our citizens and our cities. [46:43] And you're working against it. [46:44] And thank you for that. [46:45] But by trying to get our local law enforcement where we have an undercount of officers in Memphis to leave Memphis and go to work for ICE to deport people is a wrong priority. [46:56] Why are we trying to get people, policemen, who are working on the front lines to leave the front lines, take the $50,000 and go to work for ICE instead of working to fight the worst of the worst? [47:10] Congressman, I have not yet seen that commercial, that ad. [47:13] I would argue that we need strong people in both local law enforcement, state law enforcement and all of our federal agencies working together. [47:24] I've seen some of the worst of the worst violent criminals, violent criminals who were in this country illegally. [47:33] We both know that. [47:35] And in Memphis, working hand in hand. [47:37] I want to stick with Memphis and your mayor and what you discussed because there have been nearly 6,000 arrests as of February 8th. [47:46] And I think you agree with this. [47:48] In your district, in your district and almost 600 gang members. [47:54] What we found in Memphis, a lot of the gangs are local gangs. [47:58] But 600 gang members were taken off the streets. [48:02] Let me reclaim my time because I've only got 40 seconds. [48:04] I'm going to agree with you. [48:05] I'm going to agree with you. [48:06] I thank you for that. [48:07] And that's it. [48:08] And 148 missing children were recovered by all of us working together. [48:13] And nearly 1,000 illegal guns were seized as a result of us working together. [48:18] I would like to reclaim my time. [48:19] And I don't disagree with some of the things you said, but there are questions about those children. [48:23] But it's a different thing. [48:24] The fact is ICE is running rampant. [48:27] And you are not investigating them. [48:28] When they killed Mr. Prette and Ms. Good, that was an execution. [48:34] And you did not investigate it. [48:36] And you tried to investigate Ms. Good's widow. [48:38] And you tried to investigate Mr. Prette. [48:40] They were executed. [48:42] Like Kristi Noem executed her dog. [48:45] And that was wrong. [48:46] And you should investigate those people. [48:48] And you should investigate anybody that uses a weapon, a federal official or not, [48:52] for civil rights violations. [48:54] I yield back the balance. [48:55] The gentleman yields back his time. [48:56] Madam Attorney General, anytime you need a break, just let us know. [48:58] Oh, great. [48:59] Thank you. [49:00] We'll just keep going. [49:01] The chair is now recognized. [49:02] Several UCs and receipts. [49:03] I'd like to proceed. [49:04] I'd like to have unanimous consent to introduce the National Security Presidential Memorandum 7, [49:10] dated September 25th, 2025. [49:12] Objection. [49:13] The Bondi Department of Justice memo dated December 4th, 2025. [49:18] Objection. [49:19] An article from Newsweek entitled DOJ Deletes Study Alleging Rise in Far-Right Terrorism, [49:25] dated September 18th, 2025. [49:27] Without objection. [49:28] Notice article from October 3rd, 2025. [49:32] Trump's directive on organized political violence could lead to increased surveillance of his critics. [49:37] Without objection. [49:38] Washington Post article September 25th, 2025. [49:41] Trump targets domestic terrorists but only mentions the radical left. [49:46] Without objection. [49:47] Idaho Capitol Sun, October 18th, 2025. [49:51] Rest easy. [49:52] Idahoans, the No King demonstrators are American patriots. [49:55] Without objection. [49:56] Attacks on freedom of speech. [49:58] What nonprofits need to know. [50:00] Published by the National Council of Nonprofits, the largest network of nonprofits in America. [50:04] Without objection. [50:06] Without objection. [50:07] The Freedom From Religious Foundation warns that Bondi memo weaponizes federal law enforcement [50:12] against non-Christians and dissenting viewpoints. [50:14] Without objection. [50:15] A Ken Klipperstein blog from January 28th, 26th, ISIS secret watch lists of Americans. [50:22] Without objection. [50:23] And an Intercept article from February 2nd, 26th, Trump calls his enemies terrorists. [50:29] Does that mean he can kill them? [50:30] Without objection. [50:31] Thank you. [50:32] The gentleman from Florida is recognized. [50:33] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [50:35] Good morning, Attorney General Bondi. [50:36] Good afternoon. [50:37] Good afternoon. [50:38] Oh, you're right. [50:39] Good afternoon. [50:40] It's been a long day. [50:41] I wrote this this morning. [50:45] We've known each other a long time. [50:47] And I'll always be appreciative for your assistance when you were Attorney General in Florida after [50:52] the shooting at my high school at Marjory Stoneman Douglas in my hometown of Parkland when [50:56] we passed a bipartisan bill, the Marjory Stoneman Douglas School Safety Act, which was the largest [51:01] policy response to a school shooting in American history. [51:05] Your department also prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law a constituent of mine and [51:09] former felon that had plans to kill me when he was picked up by law enforcement after he was [51:14] target practicing in his backyard with two rifles, a scope, a silencer, 3,000 rounds of ammunition, [51:20] an anti-Semitic manifesto. [51:22] My name was the only name on their target list. [51:24] And my kids found out about this from their friends at school. [51:27] So thank you. [51:30] However, the most transparent administration in American history. [51:35] Before Trump, we didn't know the word transparency, apparently. [51:38] It's been 12 months since you gave Republican influencers part one of the Epstein files. [51:43] You said the list was on your desk. [51:44] Then a memo came out and said that there was no list. [51:46] Phase two of the binders never happened. [51:48] The president of the United States says the Epstein thing is a hoax. [51:51] He blasts his own base for wanting the release of the files. [51:54] He blamed Barack Obama. [51:56] Republicans voted against the release of the files in the Rules Committee. [51:59] Then they refused to even return to the Rules Committee until they could be protected from [52:03] future votes on the release. [52:05] Speaker Johnson sends Congress home a day early before break. [52:09] They sent the Deputy Attorney General to meet with Maxwell. [52:12] She says something favorable about the president. [52:14] Miraculously, she gets transferred to a minimum security facility. [52:17] No one can explain why. [52:19] Miraculously, the leaks to the Wall Street Journal stop. [52:22] We come back from break. [52:24] We have the Massey discharge petition. [52:26] Republicans drop a rule, a non-binding resolution trying to kill the Massey discharge petition. [52:31] The White House says passing the Massey discharge petition is a hostile act. [52:35] Trying to stop the necessary 218 signatures, according to Republican members that signed it, [52:40] the White House brought them into the Situation Room. [52:42] You know, the place where the president goes for time of war. [52:45] Promising things like appropriations or maybe even to primary them. [52:48] People in the room say you were there. [52:50] It didn't work. [52:51] We get the 218 signatures. [52:53] We eventually passed the Massey petition. [52:55] You guys didn't release the files. [52:57] You were forced by Congress. [53:01] Every member of the House except one and the entire Senate. [53:05] The reason the president signed it is because it was a veto-proof majority. [53:09] We can't agree on anything. [53:11] And yet the entire House but one member and the whole Senate forced the administration to release the files. [53:17] Cash Patel under oath said to Senator Kennedy, [53:20] the FBI is not in possession of any criminal evidence that Epstein trafficked girls to anyone but himself. [53:26] We know now that's not true. [53:28] According to documents, Epstein had a worldwide sex trafficking ring. [53:31] Girls from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Paris, modeling agencies sending him girls. [53:36] He even had a relationship with a summer camp where he groomed girls at a picnic table. [53:40] Ghislaine Maxwell says 29 Epstein associates cut secret DOJ deals. [53:44] Turns out there is a list. [53:46] Six names readily available if you unredact them. [53:48] Co-conspirators named, but we got them when you unredact them. [53:52] Maxwell recently tells a House Oversight Committee that she wants clemency to release more names. [53:57] Cash Patel under oath said Trump's name appears less than 100 times in the files. [54:01] We now know that's not true. [54:02] Trump's name appears more times in the Epstein files than God's name appears in the book about God. [54:08] Okay, by the way, this is the Trump Bible. [54:10] Move over, King James. [54:11] Trump's name also appears more times in the Epstein file than Harry Potter's name appears in the seven books about Harry Potter. [54:18] Lutnik says that in 2008, he went to Epstein's home, says he had a massage table in the living room. [54:24] But Epstein said he got one every day, that it was the right type of massage. [54:27] He and his wife decide to leave and say they'll never be in a room with him again. [54:31] Howard then says, I'm sure the Epstein stuff is all on video. [54:34] He was the greatest blackmailer of all time. [54:37] Well, how would Howard know that? [54:39] But now the files are public. [54:40] And in 2012, we found out that he and his family are on Epstein Island after, after, after Epstein pled guilty to state charges. [54:49] I'm from Florida. [54:50] I take my family to Disney World, not to Epstein Island. [54:53] There are documents in the files that dispute the president's claim that he kicked Epstein out of his club. [54:58] Allegedly, the president said Epstein, that he asked Epstein to leave. [55:02] Supported now, that that's disputed though, statements from the manager of the club. [55:08] Now, Madam Attorney General, I have like 25 seconds left. [55:10] So, because I'm curious, and I just, I'd like to see, flip to the Jared Moskowitz section of the binder. [55:17] I'm interested to see what staff provided on the, on the oppo on me. [55:21] And because we're in the Olympics, I'm going to give it a grade. [55:24] I just want to see how, how good it is. [55:26] So, give me your best one. [55:27] So, first of all, nothing is funny about mocking the Bible [55:32] and holding up a Trump Bible. [55:33] I'm mocking the Bible. [55:34] That's what you did. [55:35] That's the best. [55:36] You made a joke and I find offense to that. [55:37] No, I want it. [55:38] That's all I have to say to you. [55:39] I want it from the burn book. [55:40] Shame. [55:41] I want it from the burn book, which is the best one. [55:42] What you got? [55:43] It has expired. [55:44] The gentleman from Wisconsin is recognized, from Tennessee is recognized. [55:46] I'd like to introduce for the record, a letter, a letter to Director Gabbard from Mr. Warner [55:54] and Mr. Himes and a letter of response from her to them about who invited her to Atlanta. [56:02] Yep. [56:03] And a copy of the search warrant. [56:05] And I'd also like to just make clear for the record, the reason people in Memphis weren't [56:09] going out was because the ice was on the ground and we were afraid we'd fall. [56:14] But other than that, we go out all the time. [56:16] Gentlemen, without objection, the gentlelady from Vermont is recognized. [56:21] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [56:22] Attorney General Bondi, according to your department, a child is sexually abused in [56:27] the United States every nine minutes. [56:29] And the vast majority of survivors never get justice. [56:33] And that's one of the reasons why I think the Epstein case has resonated so deeply with [56:38] so many Americans. [56:39] And the other reason, I think, is because it has revealed a two-tiered system of justice. [56:44] And the powerful are protected and the survivors rarely get any accountability. [56:49] And the Epstein files contain evidence of a multi-decade international criminal conspiracy [56:56] involving some of the wealthiest and the most powerful people in the world. [57:00] There's evidence of financial crimes, political corruption, sex trafficking, and, of course, [57:06] horrible sexual abuse. [57:08] And I want to remind everybody this isn't a game. [57:13] These are real people, people who have suffered, who are sitting here with us today. [57:19] And they deserve answers and they deserve accountability. [57:22] And I'm here to try to get some for them. [57:25] Now, I've seen some of the unredacted Epstein files. [57:28] And obviously, as you know, President Trump's name is all over them. [57:31] But so are the names of other senior Trump officials. [57:34] Howard Lutnik, Secretary of Commerce. [57:36] John Phelan, the Secretary of the Navy. [57:39] And Steven Feinberg, the Deputy Secretary of Defense. [57:42] These men were appointed by President Trump to senior positions in his administration. [57:49] All of them have clear and confirmed ties to Jeffrey Epstein. [57:53] Attorney General Bondi, yes or no, has the Justice Department asked Secretary Lutnik about his ties to Epstein? [58:01] Excuse me. [58:04] Secretary Lutnik has addressed those ties himself. [58:09] I'm asking you, has the Justice Department specifically asked Secretary Lutnik about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein? [58:17] He has addressed those ties himself. [58:20] Has the DOJ asked Secretary Phelan about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein? [58:25] I don't know whether he has addressed those or not. [58:27] Has the Deputy, has Deputy Secretary Feinberg talked to the Department of Justice about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein? [58:39] Yes or no? [58:40] Has the Department of Justice talked to Secretary, Deputy Secretary Feinberg, about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein, which are clearly spelled out in the files? [58:48] It's a very simple question. [58:49] It's not a trick question. [58:50] I'm just asking you. [58:51] Yeah, I'm stunned that you want to continue talking about Epstein instead of a border patrol. [58:56] Okay, I'm reclaiming my time. [58:58] I'm asking you not a trick question, a simple question. [59:01] Done. [59:02] Okay, so what is clear is, we have evidence. [59:05] Do you know who Chris Malin is? [59:07] At three senior, we have evidence that three senior officials within the Trump administration have ties to Jeffrey Epstein. [59:14] What does ties mean? [59:15] What does ties mean? [59:17] I can conclude from what you are saying that you have not talked to them. [59:21] What does ties mean? [59:22] Can you define that? [59:23] I think Americans would be shocked to learn that you are not interested in talking with these officials who have ties to Jeffrey Epstein. [59:32] What does ties mean? [59:33] Can you define that? [59:34] Across the world, prominent men who have been exposed in the files have resigned their jobs in disgrace. [59:42] And that's a good first start. [59:43] And that same standard, this same standard should apply here. [59:49] And Americans want accountability. [59:51] Who is Chris Malin? [59:52] Who is Chris Malin? [59:53] Was the president aware? [59:55] Who was he? [59:56] Please stop talking. [59:57] It is not your time to ask questions. [59:58] Who was he? [59:59] It is not your time. [1:00:00] I'm reclaiming my time, Mr. Chair. [1:00:01] One second. [1:00:02] Time belongs to the general aide from Vermont. [1:00:04] Was the president aware of Secretary Lutnik's ties to Epstein when he chose him to lead the Department of Commerce? [1:00:11] Was he aware? [1:00:13] Chris Malin was a border patrol agent. [1:00:15] Okay, so I'm going to conclude that the president, in fact, did know about his ties because he was the next door neighbor. [1:00:22] Shame on you. [1:00:23] Oh, for goodness sakes. [1:00:25] This is pathetic. [1:00:26] This is pathetic, Mr. Chair. [1:00:28] I am not asking trick questions here. [1:00:31] The American people have a right to know the answers to this. [1:00:35] These are senior officials in the Trump administration. [1:00:38] This is not a game, Secretary. [1:00:41] I'm attorney general. [1:00:43] My apologies. [1:00:44] I couldn't tell. [1:00:45] By 2008, we knew that Epstein was a convicted sexual abuser. [1:00:54] And we now know that Lutnik went to Epstein's island in 2012. [1:00:59] How was that not a deal breaker for the president? [1:01:02] And why aren't you asking questions of the commerce secretary about what he saw when he was at the island, which he lied about not ever going to? [1:01:12] Why are you not asking these questions? [1:01:14] And I see that my time is almost expired. [1:01:17] So I will say this. [1:01:18] Do the right thing, attorney general. [1:01:21] Meet with the survivors. [1:01:22] They have been asking for a year. [1:01:24] Meet with the survivors. [1:01:25] Do the right thing. [1:01:26] I yield back. [1:01:27] The gentleman from South Carolina is recognized for five minutes. [1:01:32] May I have 20 seconds of his time? [1:01:34] That would be up to the gentleman. [1:01:35] Absolutely, madam. [1:01:36] Thank you. [1:01:37] Thank you. [1:01:38] I was curious if you, Congresswoman, asked Bill Clinton that. [1:01:44] I didn't see one tweet. [1:01:46] Not one. [1:01:47] Not one. [1:01:48] I didn't see one tweet when Joe Biden was in office about Bill Clinton. [1:01:52] Didn't ask Merrick Garland anything about Epstein. [1:01:55] Not once. [1:01:56] Weeks us. [1:01:57] Weeks us. [1:01:58] And also, I want the record to reflect that, you know, with this anti-semitic culture right [1:02:04] now, she voted against a resolution condemning. [1:02:08] Oh. [1:02:09] Oh. [1:02:10] Oh. [1:02:11] Do you want to go there, attorney general? [1:02:13] Do you want to go there? [1:02:15] Are you serious? [1:02:16] Talking about anti-semitism to a woman who lost her grandfather in the Holocaust? [1:02:21] I reclaimed my time. [1:02:22] I reclaimed my time. [1:02:23] Really? [1:02:24] The committee will be in order. [1:02:25] I reclaimed my time. [1:02:26] Talk to Jared Wise about anti-semitism. [1:02:28] The ranking member knows that. [1:02:31] I'm going to, can I get like 30 seconds back, you know? [1:02:34] Yeah, I've been. [1:02:35] I think the whole committee knows. [1:02:36] I've been very generous. [1:02:37] All right, thank you. [1:02:38] I'm going to talk about sanctions. [1:02:40] May I respond very briefly to her statement? [1:02:44] I think we can do that probably on one of our members' time. [1:02:48] Okay. [1:02:49] Thank you. [1:02:50] I don't want that to get away. [1:02:51] Thank you. [1:02:52] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [1:02:53] Behind me I have three documents from the DOJ production that are emblematic of the massive [1:02:58] failure of the DOJ to comply with the Epstein Files Transparency Act. [1:03:02] To my right is an email that was sent by the victim's lawyers to the DOJ. [1:03:08] It was a list of names not to redact. [1:03:10] Or, sorry, a list of names not to release. [1:03:13] What did the DOJ do with this email? [1:03:16] They released this email in the document production. [1:03:20] Literally the worst thing you could do to the survivors, you did. [1:03:24] And they're getting phone calls. [1:03:27] A lot of these people didn't want to be known. [1:03:29] And we know you touched the document because you redacted one name. [1:03:33] And you redacted the lawyer's name, but you left the survivor's name there. [1:03:37] The next document I want to show you, that was in the title. [1:03:42] The victim's survivors' names, right? [1:03:45] The title of this one is Child Sex Trafficking. [1:03:48] Co-Conspirators. [1:03:49] Fully Redacted. [1:03:51] And, by the way, I'm going to unredact them here. [1:03:58] Les Wexner is in this. [1:04:00] Now, your assistant, your deputy attorney general said, [1:04:04] oh, well, he appears hundreds of times in the files. [1:04:07] But he doesn't appear in this file until I forced you to release it, [1:04:13] where he's listed as a co-conspirator, not to tax evasion, [1:04:18] but to child sex trafficking. [1:04:20] Not to prostitution. [1:04:22] Not to money laundering. [1:04:23] Child sex trafficking. [1:04:25] And then, finally, what we have here is the third exhibit that I have [1:04:32] is emblematic of the FD-302 release. [1:04:35] These are the documents that we need that you're holding on to [1:04:39] and over-redacting because they have the names of the men who are implicated. [1:04:44] How do we know? [1:04:46] Because the survivors gave testimony to the FBI. [1:04:52] And it's in there. [1:04:53] And what happens when you go to the portal at the DOJ [1:04:56] to look at what's behind this redaction? [1:04:58] Another redaction. [1:04:59] So we can't even see them. [1:05:01] And then there's some of these files you've pulled down from the website [1:05:05] that we will never see because we can't search the redactions. [1:05:11] So I have several questions for you. [1:05:14] Who's responsible? [1:05:15] Are you able to track who in your organization [1:05:19] made this massive failure and released the victims' names? [1:05:22] Are you able to track who it was that obscured Les Wexner's name [1:05:28] as a co-conspirator in an FBI document? [1:05:31] Do you have that kind of accountability? [1:05:34] I believe Wexner's name was listed more than 4,000 times. [1:05:41] Yeah, I already told you that. [1:05:43] This is where he's listed as a co-conspirator. [1:05:44] Can I finish my answer? [1:05:46] Come on. [1:05:47] Let me finish my answer. [1:05:49] We corrected that within 40 minutes. [1:05:52] He was already... [1:05:53] You're acting like everybody's trying to cover up Wexner's name. [1:05:56] Reclaiming my time. [1:05:57] I'm going to answer this question. [1:05:58] Reclaiming my time. [1:05:59] He was... [1:06:00] Mr. Chairman... [1:06:01] This isn't how this works. [1:06:02] Can I have my time back? [1:06:03] He was... [1:06:04] Mr. Chairman... [1:06:05] If somebody could give her answer? [1:06:07] The time belongs to the gentleman from... [1:06:08] Mr. I'm reclaiming my time. [1:06:09] Mr. Can I give my answer? [1:06:10] Mr. So... [1:06:11] Mr. Yes. [1:06:12] Mr. I'm going to put the language of the bill up on the screen. [1:06:13] Mr. Chairman, may I give my answer on that? [1:06:15] Mr. Here's a political joke and I need to give my answer on that. [1:06:20] Mr. We'll let the attorney general respond and then the gentleman can move to the next [1:06:24] Judge Judy Howell. [1:06:25] you asked me a question. Within 40 minutes, Wexner's name was added back. [1:06:30] Within 40 minutes of me catching you red-handed. Red-handed. There was one [1:06:35] redaction. Where he's listed as a co-conspirator. And we invited you in. This guy has Trump [1:06:43] derangement syndrome. He needs to get, you're a failed politician. You need to go on. [1:06:47] I want you to watch the video. Chairman, please restore his time and remind the [1:06:51] witness of the rules. There is no credible information. None. If there were, I would [1:06:56] bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals. Is that your [1:07:01] position as well? My position is any victim who comes forward, of course, we would [1:07:10] love to hear from them. 1-800-CALL-FBI. Did you ask Merrick Garland that the last [1:07:17] four years? Did you talk about Epstein? I'm reclaiming my time. I'm glad you're [1:07:22] asking about Merrick Garland. Because this is bigger than Watergate. This goes [1:07:27] over four administrations. You don't have to go back to Biden. Let's go back to [1:07:32] Obama. Let's go back to George Bush. This cover-up spans decades and you are [1:07:37] responsible for this portion of it. I want to know at what point, at what point did the [1:07:44] FBI and the DOJ decide that Lex Wessner was not a co-conspirator? Because our [1:07:50] Epstein Files Transparency Act requires you, please put it back on the screen, [1:07:54] please, to release the internal decision about whether to prosecute him or not, [1:08:01] and it's not in the files, and it's not in the files for any of these other men. [1:08:05] Time of the gentleman has expired. May she answer? And he's a hypocrite because he voted [1:08:10] against the ban that we were talking about on deep fake AI porn. Only two people [1:08:17] voted against it, and you were one of them, hypocrite. The gentleman's time has [1:08:23] expired. She didn't answer the question. Mr. Chairman, could she answer the question? [1:08:28] Chairman, I was wondering. The gentlelady is allowed, the Attorney General is allowed to [1:08:31] respond the way she wants to respond to any member's questions, Republican, Democrat. [1:08:35] I have unanimous consent request. Gentleman's recognized for a UC. All right. This is an [1:08:41] example. I'm submitting these 302 forms that are entirely redacted, even when you [1:08:46] go to look at them. Without objection. I'm submitting a witness statement that [1:08:51] implicates Les Wexner. Without objection. I'm submitting an article from the New York [1:08:56] Times that the DOJ released nude photos and identifiable pictures of the victims. [1:09:02] I'm submitting a letter from A.G. Bondi to Kash Patel imploring him to quit keeping the files [1:09:12] when you found out that they were keeping files from you because they're still redacting files. [1:09:18] Chairman, are we going to recess for votes? Yes, we are. I'm submitting for unanimous consent [1:09:24] a document of 17 individuals who've resigned because of the Epstein files. Without objection. [1:09:29] I just want to check on what time, what time, how much time we have left in votes, but one [1:09:40] thing I've learned here of late that they'll wait on this. How much time do we have? Oh, they [1:09:49] just called. Okay. Okay. The chair now recognizes