About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of RFK Jr. tells congresswoman "those are crocodile tears" during tense moment at House hearing from CBS News, published April 18, 2026. The transcript contains 965 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"I now recognize the gentlelady from Georgia, Ms. McBath. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Secretary Kennedy, for being before us today. You have characterized many things as epidemics and threats to public health, including autism and the presence of fluoride in our drinking water. Shootings"
[0:00] I now recognize the gentlelady from Georgia, Ms. McBath.
[0:04] Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Secretary Kennedy, for being before us today.
[0:08] You have characterized many things as epidemics and threats to public health, including autism
[0:13] and the presence of fluoride in our drinking water.
[0:17] Shootings are the number one cause of death for children in this country, and they have
[0:21] been since 2020.
[0:23] But when you were asked if gun violence was a public health crisis during your Senate
[0:28] confirmation hearing last year, you answered with a succinct no, which I would like to
[0:34] submit digitally for the record.
[0:38] My son Jordan Davis was murdered in a shooting at just 17 years of age.
[0:44] Simple answer, yes or no.
[0:46] Do you believe that gun violence is an epidemic or a public health crisis?
[0:49] I would say it's an epidemic.
[0:52] I think it's a law enforcement issue and not public health.
[0:59] I find it kind of absurd to hear you say that.
[1:04] I really do.
[1:05] Do you think I should be regulating gangs at HHS?
[1:08] I think, Secretary, it's my time.
[1:10] I think it's kind of absurd to hear you say that.
[1:12] So can you tell me how many children were killed by fluoride toxicity in my home state
[1:18] of Georgia in 2024?
[1:20] Fluoride toxicity?
[1:21] I have probably none.
[1:23] You're right.
[1:24] The answer is absolutely zero.
[1:25] So can you tell me how many children were killed by fluoride across the country in 2024?
[1:30] Fluoride doesn't kill you.
[1:31] That's an absurd question.
[1:32] Again, that answer is zero.
[1:34] So how about…
[1:35] Nobody would answer that answer question.
[1:37] How about…
[1:38] I'm reclaiming my time.
[1:40] How about by firearms?
[1:42] Can you tell me how many kids were killed in shootings across the country in 2024?
[1:48] You can see right behind me.
[1:49] I can't read it.
[1:52] 3,865 over 10 a day.
[1:57] That's more than drownings, more than car accidents, more than cancer, and certainly
[2:02] more than fluoride.
[2:03] It is far more than many of the things that you choose to focus on in your time as secretary.
[2:10] I'm reclaiming my time, secretary.
[2:13] It's obvious that gun violence is an epidemic, and it is both a public health crisis.
[2:19] I know it, and so do the thousands of parents who are burying their kids in this country
[2:24] every single year.
[2:25] But what I don't know is how you can expect the American people to take your opinion seriously,
[2:31] when you try to tell them that they don't need to worry about the leading cause of death
[2:36] for their kids…
[2:37] I never told them that.
[2:38] I'm reclaiming my time.
[2:39] I'm reclaiming my time.
[2:41] While you tour the country to talk about the supposed dangers of fluoride, you should
[2:46] focus your efforts on things that are really killing our children in this country every single
[2:52] day.
[2:54] We have limited time here, but I also want to ask you about your comments about people
[2:58] with disabilities, especially about people with autism.
[3:02] Now, in your first press conference as secretary in April of last year, you said, and I'm quoting,
[3:09] autism destroys families, that these are kids who will never pay taxes, never hold a job,
[3:13] never play baseball, never write a poem, or go out on a date.
[3:17] Many of them will never use a toilet unassisted, which I would also like to submit for the record.
[3:23] The truth is that the majority of people on the autism spectrum can do all the things
[3:35] that you have mentioned.
[3:36] Of course they can, and I never said they couldn't.
[3:39] Some people with disabilities do need direct care to assist them with activities like going
[3:44] to the bathroom, but that does not mean that they are somehow less than or unable to lead
[3:48] fulfilling and productive lives.
[3:50] As you have implied…
[3:51] And nobody said they were.
[3:52] I'm claiming my time.
[3:53] I'm asking you here today, secretary, to apologize for spreading lies about people
[3:59] with autism and their families.
[4:01] Will you apologize for those remarks that you've made?
[4:03] Of course not.
[4:04] Then if you let me explain, I'm happy to.
[4:09] I was talking about people with profound autism, not people who are, you know, who have lower
[4:16] impact autism.
[4:17] I'm talking about people who are non-verbal, non-toilet trained, head-banging, stimming,
[4:23] toe-walking.
[4:24] Okay.
[4:25] Then since you're…
[4:26] Hundreds and hundreds of people have written me letters thanking me those comments.
[4:30] Since you're explaining what you really meant, can you apologize to the thousands of families
[4:36] that do not believe what you're just telling us now?
[4:38] Because if you look at my comments, it was clear who I was talking about.
[4:41] You refuse to apologize.
[4:42] I find that very, very sad.
[4:43] I find that very, very sad.
[4:44] It should be very easy for you to apologize if that's not in fact what you meant.
[4:48] Those are crocodile tears, Congresswoman.
[4:50] I'm very…
[4:51] I'm very…
[4:52] And for all the families that have children with autism, I'm very sad to hear you say
[4:57] that.
[4:58] If you want to deal with autism…
[4:59] Because those families are dealing with the kinds of conditions that many people just
[5:03] don't even understand.
[5:04] If you want to deal with autism, come and talk to me.
[5:07] If you want to deal with autism, come and talk to me.
[5:09] If you want to…
[5:10] I'm reclaiming my time.
[5:11] The President is trying to close the Department of Education.
[5:14] If that happens, service is provided under the Individuals with Disabilities Education
[5:19] Act, including special ed, may move under your jurisdiction.
[5:24] This is unacceptable for so many reasons, but one of the most important reasons is this.
[5:30] No parent wants their son or daughter's education to be in the hands of a man who openly admits
[5:37] that he does not believe in their children.
[5:40] And I yield.
[5:41] The gentlelady's time has expired.
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