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People in recovery find a fresh start by crafting Troublesome Creek instruments

April 7, 2026 7m 1,345 words
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"AMNA NAWAZ. In Eastern Kentucky, the heritage of folk and traditional music from instruments like guitars, mandolins and dulcimers is deeply seated. Senior arts correspondent Jeffrey Brown reports on an effort to capitalize on this rich culture, while offering some residents a fresh start in the..."

[0:00] AMNA NAWAZ. In Eastern Kentucky, the heritage of folk and traditional music from instruments [0:04] like guitars, mandolins and dulcimers is deeply seated. Senior arts correspondent Jeffrey [0:10] Brown reports on an effort to capitalize on this rich culture, while offering some residents [0:15] a fresh start in the process. It's part of our ongoing coverage of the intersection of [0:20] health and arts, part of our Canvas series. JEFFREY BROWN. When I first started, I had [0:26] never really worked with any kind of fine woodworking. JEFFREY BROWN. Jeremy Haney hand-makes [0:31] mandolins for the Troublesome Creek Stringed Instrument Company. JEREMY HANEY. It's been [0:36] a learning experience. It's been a challenge, a big learning curve for me, as far as, like, [0:41] paying attention to detail and having my eyes open to what to look for. JEFFREY BROWN. He's [0:45] proud of his craftsmanship, making instruments that will retail for about $2,000. But even [0:51] more so, he says, the work has given him purpose. JEREMY HANEY. I destroyed myself with drugs [0:57] and alcohol. JEFFREY BROWN. Jeremy Haney is proud of his craftsmanship, making instruments [0:58] that will retail for about $2,000. JEREMY HANEY. I destroyed myself with drugs and alcohol [0:59] and just wrong decisions. And the work that I found has given me something to plug my [1:02] mind into, to keep my hands busy. I love it. JEFFREY BROWN. Nearly every one of the more [1:08] than dozen workers at Troublesome Creek is in recovery from substance abuse. Doug Naselrode [1:15] heads Troublesome Creek. A master luthier or stringed instrument maker himself, he came [1:21] to Hindman here in the mountains of Eastern Kentucky to teach the craft about 14 years [1:27] ago and found people struggling. [1:29] DOUG NASELRODE. We began to realize that there was more dire need in the community [1:35] because the opioid epidemic and the damage that it had compounded with the downturn of [1:42] coal. JEFFREY BROWN. So, you came to fill one need, in a sense. DOUG NASELRODE. Yes. [1:46] JEFFREY BROWN. And then you found another one. DOUG NASELRODE. Yes. There was a larger [1:50] purpose that came with the people in addiction. JEFFREY BROWN. In partnership with a local [1:57] rehab center, the county's drug court, and the nearby Appalachian County Drug Center, [2:01] Appalachian Artisan Center, Naselrode co-founded a program called Culture of Recovery, providing [2:08] workshops for blacksmithing, ceramics and luthiery to those in recovery. DOUG NASELRODE. [2:15] Stringed instrument-making involves a long curve of delayed gratification. You have a [2:22] labor-intensive activity. The rewards are not immediate. You really have to come back [2:30] day after day and week after week to get there. JEFFREY BROWN. So, it's a long process. [2:32] DOUG NASELRODE. It's a long process. JEFFREY BROWN. It's a long process. DOUG NASELRODE. [2:33] JEFFREY BROWN. It's a long process. DOUG NASELRODE. It's a long process. DOUG NASELRODE. It's a long process. [2:33] JEFFREY BROWN. It's a long process. DOUG NASELRODE. It's a long process. JEFFREY BROWN. [2:34] If you engage in that and do so consistently, it is our experience that people can really [2:45] dig out of addiction when they find another focus. PAUL SOLMAN. In 2019, he started Troublesome [2:52] Creek as a nonprofit, hiring those like Haney who would take him to the craft. The company [2:58] is named for the creek that runs through Hindman, which, in the summer of 2022, lived up to [3:04] its name. [3:05] flooding quickly as part of an historic disaster that killed 45 people in the larger region, [3:10] including 22 here in Knott County. Downtown Hindman was under water, [3:16] and the building that housed Troublesome Creek's factory was inundated, [3:20] destroying instruments and hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment. [3:23] DOUG HINEMAN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [3:24] It broke everyone's heart. My boys were just like, Doug, did we just get fired? [3:29] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [3:30] They thought they had lost the work, the jobs. [3:32] DOUG HINEMAN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [3:33] The work, the job, their dream, their home in this place. [3:38] And almost instantly, I realized I had to gather them up and say, all right, boys, [3:45] get your work boots on. We're going to dig out. [3:48] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [3:48] For half a year, the Luthiers of Troublesome Creek became a cleanup crew, mucking out the space. [3:54] DOUG HINEMAN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [3:54] We cleaned up and salvaged everything we could. And the rest has been replaced by donations [4:02] and [4:03] grants and just hard work. [4:06] JEREMY HANEY, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [4:07] This whole neighborhood was underwater. [4:09] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [4:09] Jeremy Haney took us to the apartment he had just moved into when the flood hit [4:13] down the road from the workshop. Everything in his ground-floor apartment was destroyed. [4:18] JEREMY HANEY, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [4:19] I thought it was a total loss. I didn't think that I would ever [4:22] get to go back to work building mandolins there. And it was a bad feeling, too, [4:27] because I thought I was going to have to go back home to where I grew up at. [4:31] And that wasn't an option for me. [4:32] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [4:33] The 1930s-era building that Troublesome Creek is housed in was owned by a community college. [4:39] And once reconstruction was completed, it was donated to the instrument-making nonprofit, [4:44] including a community space for performances. [4:47] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [4:47] Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the Knott Downtown Radio Hour. [4:51] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [4:51] We saw the first post-flood performance there of an occasional live stream musical [4:56] review featuring local artists, and even a few songs by employees of Troublesome Creek. [5:08] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [5:14] Owens is one of the newest employees coming to the work after more than two decades of addiction. [5:19] OWENS, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [5:19] Opioids, methamphetamine, heroin, fentanyl, I had done it all, [5:24] went into this rehab that got me into this place on an overdose, prison, back, prison again. [5:31] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [5:32] After landing in rehab, he pushed hard to start learning guitar-making at Troublesome Creek. [5:37] OWENS, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [5:37] I thought maybe I could get my foot in the door a little bit because [5:40] I knew what I was doing, so I talked a lot of big stuff to get in here. [5:43] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [5:44] But you knew something. I mean, you knew it could really help you. [5:47] OWENS, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [5:47] I have never done anything that I woke up and said, wow, I get to go to work. [5:52] You can't keep a job in addiction. You get a job, but you can't keep a job. [5:56] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [5:56] This is the longest I have ever kept a job in my life, and I have had this job a year. [6:00] And that's pretty pathetic, but it's just the case, you know? [6:04] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [6:07] Yeah, I love this place. [6:08] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [6:09] Are there failures along the way? I mean, are there people you have seen relapse? [6:13] OWENS, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [6:13] Yeah, one or two, which is heartbreaking every time. [6:18] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [6:18] But for those that can stick, Nieselrode says there is real transformation on the other side. [6:25] OWENS, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [6:25] I judge success in the lives of these people. [6:30] I would like to see us become a major economic engine in a tiny little town, [6:38] and we're well on our way to that. [6:40] But there's not much we can do. [6:41] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [6:41] There's different ways to measure profit. [6:43] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [6:47] For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Jeffrey Brown in Hindman, Kentucky. [6:51] JEFFREY BROWN, Founder, Troublesome Creek's Factory, Knott County, [7:08] Support journalism you trust. Support PBS News. [7:12] Donate now, or even better, start a monthly contribution today.

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