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New York Knicks vs. Cleveland Cavaliers — Game 4 Postgame Media Availability

NBA May 27, 2026 1h 37m 14,942 words
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"stand especially this late all right they're playing great basketball you know you just gotta gotta give them credit um they're playing they're on the heater they're um in a groove um just got to give them a ton of credit congrats to to mike and their staff and um you know i i don't want to go like"

[5:37] stand especially this late all right they're playing great basketball you know you just gotta [5:52] gotta give them credit um they're playing they're on the heater they're um in a groove um just got [6:00] to give them a ton of credit congrats to to mike and their staff and um you know i i don't want to [6:09] go like and detract from our you know what what we've done what we've done this postseason [6:13] you know i i just um i think sometimes you gotta give the other team credit for for playing great [6:20] basketball um i don't you know i'll tell you what didn't help was um losing those two game sixes [6:33] you know haven't been in this um you know kind of a long time and seen seeing this before i i think [6:42] um you uh you have to take advantage of those opportunities and the way um the way the scheduling [6:51] is set up in the in the league and you know that's a whole nother topic i could go off on [6:56] you know you know you um you get on a hectic schedule and and that's that's not to say oh [7:03] we we win those games so you know we beat the knicks i'm not saying that but i i think it gives [7:08] us a better chance um but i think the density of of the frequency of the games with it never had two [7:16] days rest when you know the whole deal you know played a part in it um definitely i'm not going to [7:23] say that's the reason we lost but we would have had a better chance i think we win you know we take [7:28] care of business and those game sixes i think that's the five one regret that you know two regrets i [7:35] guess you'd say hey kenny chris the emotions like as a coach when a season that you weren't proud of [7:44] ends the way that this one did yeah i'm yeah i'm disappointed i mean disappointed for the group [7:50] you know um listen from from a coaching standpoint you know you know normally you you'd say man i [7:58] wish we had you know player wise roster i wish we had this i you know we didn't have this i can't say [8:03] that you know ownership and front office um gifted us with a wonderful roster talented roster [8:11] um you know so i feel bad you know i feel bad for the group you know because you want to you want [8:18] to fulfill you know your expectation first of all so um you know that's disappointing i'll turn a [8:26] positive though the we took a step we took a step um you know this is kind of how this works you have [8:33] to you have to keep climbing we are going in you know obviously a positive direction um you know fell short [8:41] you know there's no bigger motivator right to get to the next level you know i think it was all [8:47] season and development how we got a the sacrifice we're going to need to you know make to to get to [8:52] the next level but um i'm proud of this group in terms of how they how they fought through adversity [8:58] you know won two game sevens we took a we took a step i think we took a step um mentally from a [9:06] mental toughness point of view um you know um so um i'm going to kind of lean on that um and again [9:15] we don't know we would there's another you know another two steps really you got to take if you [9:20] you know that's that's the ultimate goal there's obviously a tough reality in the nba you guys have [9:26] the highest price price roster you're the only team in the second apron and it's hard to stay [9:31] there financially how concerned are you that the changes could come this offseason based on what [9:38] happened in this series and including your job security listen um i have confidence um confidence [9:47] in myself first of all um confidence in the group the roster um talk you know that that's for down the [9:54] line you know our front our front office has done a phenomenal job like i said giving us a great roster [10:01] you know obviously there'll be decisions to be made like like every summer um but i think we're [10:08] we're doing pretty well with those decisions since i've been here so just keep trusting trust in our [10:15] process trust our collaboration seven again said you're going to shout out i'm just kind of curious [10:25] again going back to him yeah yeah someone of this season the effort that you would sort of just take away [10:39] yeah he's our leader at the end of the day he's our leader um i knew he's going to come out [10:46] aggressive um and uh didn't didn't surprise me um and then you know post game i go to he's the first [10:56] guy that i want to hear talk not me you know and he gives a great message some of the stuff i just said [11:01] about us having to handle um you know game six better game six is better um and those are those are [11:12] those are lessons for the group um you know talked about our you know summer improvement how we got [11:19] to all make sacrifices and take another step so um again we lean on him as an organization um and i [11:28] thought he he backed it up you know tonight coming out and and being super aggressive donovan is there [11:37] anything you could reveal now from a physical standpoint i i think he just came back to me you [11:43] know saying you know it's banged normal normally normally banged up like you you are at this time [11:49] of year there wasn't any like specific oh he's got to get an mri or look at this i think he's just [11:54] generally um generally banged up generally fatigued did you see him take another step this season [12:03] yeah oh yeah definitely like i said a lot yeah i think it was a another step for him another step for [12:11] the calves you know obviously he went to conference finals but he's you know the number one reason we [12:17] went to the conference finals so that that's a big step and i i think there was um like i i think there's [12:22] a mental toughness you know you know growth there um he kind of took it to another level um led even [12:31] better than he did the year before adapted to a new roster right we're two and a half months with this [12:38] roster you know and and uh he kind of with his communication his leadership you know kind of [12:44] made that work on the fly along with james and and and you know evan but um you know he was a [12:50] you know big time growth this year from a leadership standpoint [12:54] all right coach his first trip to the conference finals with this group [12:59] yeah maybe in the moment it's hard to kind of look at the big picture but is there a season of success [13:05] yes absolutely so you know that was the task right take another step and we know um you know [13:16] knicks were in the conference finals last year right this is this is how it you have to [13:20] you have to um um there are barriers right and we we we jumped a barrier that we're we're stuck on [13:28] right second round second round second round stuck on that you make a jump it's hard not easy to do [13:33] in a really competitive east um and then i'd say you know we made the jump again with a roster [13:42] you know where we're we're trying to figure out you know things in two and a half months to get ready [13:48] for the playoffs so you know with not great preparation time um to put it together put it [13:57] together on the fly says a lot about those guys in the room um a little bit about the coaching [14:02] so yeah i consider it success [14:05] yeah i mean it's hard to say i mean you know you look at the other games and you could or the totality [14:30] of it and say they they pretty much dominated so you know i i think it's a reach to say oh man we [14:38] won that it would have changed the series not you know i would say if these other games were like [14:42] kind of closer and and and similar and and and um but pretty much all the other games that was [14:49] you know they they they you know they had a big advantage you know so [14:55] it comes to the the big picture when you said that this season's a success [15:03] do you believe that ownership in front office you'll have to ask them that's just our from [15:09] coaching and players and and and and being in the locker room but um you know you have to ask them [15:17] but i believe so that will be my gut i think it would just part of it's just human nature that [15:25] when you're trying to get to you know over that second round hump that we talked about so much [15:30] as a group donovan and his career all that once you guys did that do you feel you were fighting it all [15:38] the satisfaction of getting to this stage no when you're a competitor there's there's you're [15:44] you're satisfied for about a couple hours when you do qualify that for for something like the [15:49] conference finals and then you turn the switch i know that's how players are that's how coaches are [15:55] um you just and obviously our game one we came we didn't we didn't come out there um lackadaisical [16:01] or anything we came out you know competing um you know so um i don't think there was any of that [16:07] um do you do you get any sense because there was so much goodwill uh after game seven and then [16:23] this series was tough just do you get any sense that any of that has changed as far as the goodwill [16:30] goodwill in what sense from from the fans sent from the public from no not i mean not the like [16:39] fans or media like what no i mean more like you know from dan and between the coaching staff and [16:47] the front office and just all the good stuff that was happening you know two weeks ago i mean listen [16:52] you're disappointed i mean everybody's disappointed right but i think in these situations you got to [16:58] take a step back i think that's what um i think we do a really good job as an organization you got to [17:04] look globally how did this how does this season go and again i wish it's hard for me to sit up here [17:10] and speak for someone it's not here so it's it's your what you're asking is pretty difficult i would [17:17] just say from a player and coach's perspective being with that group in there like pretty darn proud of [17:22] what we did and that that for me from a coach that's that that's my you know intimate relationship [17:28] with the players um you know so um yeah i think i think a lot of goodwill a lot of good feelings [17:37] and then with james or as we've gone through this whole playoff run james has said a few times like [17:44] well hey i just got here you know i've only been around two months like it takes a while do you feel [17:50] like with more time you can win with this team yeah i think we need you know you know but like i think [17:58] dance you know um dance you know is it you know we obviously have to make decisions it's probably [18:05] not going to be the same roster so you know um but i love this group like i said in the beginning i think [18:11] um the group we put together i wouldn't wouldn't change it for anything right considering the parameters [18:18] of what we have so um yeah i think um i'd love to get a full training camp love to get um more refs [18:28] with this group we're you know like i said doing on the fly a little bit um but uh yeah love the group [18:36] all right thanks so much you know first of all they said this before the game and i meant to say this [18:57] before in my pre-game presser but uh my dad was in the military for 26 years and he did not i mean he [19:07] he's 85 and something like that he's he's doing pretty good for for an 85 year old but i got a lot [19:15] of respect for uh everybody that serves our country and um you know my hat goes off uh to everyone my [19:24] heart goes out to everybody that has lost a loved one service serving our country and uh you know i hope [19:31] everybody had a nice long weekend but more importantly you know people that died in the [19:38] line of duty serving our country we hope that we remember them and and think highly of them because [19:44] they paid the ultimate price for what we all get to do what i get to do so so thank you to the families [19:50] um i mean our guys played great i you know i've said it all along my staff has been unbelievable [19:58] uh the players they were unbelievable i mean you know you're in the playoffs you're in the conference [20:05] finals and you know you score 65 points off of um offensive rebounds and fast break points i don't [20:16] i don't know if i've ever seen that before uh at this point in the year so i i give our guys a lot [20:21] of credit for sticking to the game plan and really trying to you know push the pace because that's what we [20:28] wanted to do coming into uh this series um you know 41 percent 42 percent 93 points uh against a team [20:38] that's um of their offensive caliber uh it was just amazing um again coaching staff came up with a [20:47] fantastic game plan and our players went out there and executed it and you know six offensive rebounds [20:54] 22 foul shots that's phenomenal just a phenomenal job by our guys on the defense end of the floor and [21:02] then i mean i could say a lot about our our team individually especially 33 assists on 48 baskets but [21:10] you know our bench was fantastic jose was was really good um mitch his vertical um threat at the rim [21:21] offensively was fantastic 10 off 10 rebounds five offensively five defensively was amazing um deuce [21:31] deuce was just he's spectacular uh he spaced the floor the right way and he hit some timely threes [21:37] um throughout the course of the game and then landry you know landry shaman has continued to step up big [21:45] on both ends of the floor you know and a lot of people are going to talk about his shooting which [21:50] they should um but when josh wasn't guarding uh donovan you know landry had to guard him and you're [21:58] not stopping down with a natural he's just too good of a player but landry did his best to make him work [22:04] and that was fun to fun to see mikhail josh uh og og was phenomenal um cat with another double double [22:15] and he's extremely efficient uh and then you know jalen our mvp he caused or created a lot of double [22:23] teams and you know we had a lot of guys uh good get great looks because of the havoc that he caused [22:31] out on the floor with the attention that uh cleveland had to pay to him so just a a good win by our guys [22:37] trying to take care of the details while pushing the pace against uh a really good cleveland team [22:44] mike mike i know you like to talk about the group and everybody that's helped you guys get here but i [22:53] want to ask you about you it's been 19 years since you were a head coach coaching a finals team [22:58] a lot of stuff happened in between um can you kind of just take me through your mind when you got [23:04] this opportunity did you think when you left sacramento were you sure if you'd ever get another [23:08] head coaching job i guess can you kind of take me through your journey to where you are today over [23:13] the last few years uh well you know first i you know i gotta thank vivek randy for giving me an [23:21] opportunity and obviously it didn't work out and when when i when i got fired i really didn't think [23:28] much about anything i uh my wife and i were row and i shoot we went to sydney australia to see usc 313 [23:35] we went to puerto vallarta mexico uh we went to st bart's fantastic island man i i can't wait to go [23:43] back uh we actually came to new york city too and ran around new york for like four days and uh [23:50] we went to this one club and we met these young dudes that work on wall street and i was there with [23:56] them till like five in the morning and they sent me some pictures and stuff and i'm sure i'm surprised [24:02] that they haven't sent them to you guys yet but uh so we you know i just i just wanted to have fun [24:07] and and you know if an opportunity came up great um if it didn't you know i should i i felt lucky [24:15] blessed fortunate i had a good run you know and and i felt at some point i'd get another opportunity [24:21] whether it was a head coach or an assistant coaching position and so i just kind of rolled with [24:25] and didn't think much about it and you know obviously this opportunity came up and you know [24:31] from afar um i just felt that this team was ready um and i'm just thrilled to death that mr dolan gave [24:40] me an opportunity and leon rose gave me an opportunity to be a head coach again especially [24:44] here in new york like kind of on that though like when you took the job obviously part of it was you [24:51] you have to the deal is you should take the team to a higher place than they were last year [24:55] um do you feel doing this now do you feel validated at all personally i never never really thought about [25:05] it like that i mean you know again our business is funny my previous job supposedly took them to a [25:13] point that was higher and you know it didn't work out so i you know again i i i i truly felt that this [25:21] team was an nba finals team i i i thought i felt we had a true opportunity because some jobs you [25:28] take you're like okay we can get better we have a chance to make the playoffs right now [25:33] but this one i felt we legitimately had a chance if we could if we could help them figure it out the [25:40] players can stay together during the process especially when we hit adversity because we hit [25:45] adversity at different times during the season not just us as a whole group but even some guys [25:50] individually including myself and so you know i did have that belief from day one um i didn't know [25:58] how it was going to turn out but we're here and there's a lot of people to thank because of it but [26:04] it starts with the players um coming to this series obviously one of the strengths for the cavaliers is [26:11] mobley and alan what do you think of how cap did especially those last three games averaging 12 rebounds [26:19] you know scoring distributing just the whole package you know you you hit it right on the head [26:24] they're they're two bigs again i said before they're all-stars and at any time you attain that level [26:29] uh you're going to be a handful and you know i got to give credit to again our defensive coaches [26:36] uh brendan o'connor and darren erman first coming up with the game plan but our players executed it and [26:42] and and cat was huge mitch was huge og was too we put og on alan quite a bit during this series [26:50] um but then i i will end it with you know it was a team thing because we blitzed a lot and those guys [26:58] cut the ball in the pocket um and when you blitz you commit two to the ball one of those guys is a big [27:04] and so you have to have your guards cracking back and putting their nose on these guys chests and [27:11] backs to get them off the glass and or to not foul them and our guys did a great job on the back side [27:18] so all five guys were always on a string or for the most part and you know obviously at the point of [27:24] attack cat mitch and og and josh a little bit were phenomenal coach um you mentioned earlier jalen [27:33] the leadership the names that you brought up were steph curry and tim duncan which are pretty [27:37] impressive names um what about his leadership is special in your eyes and i guess being around [27:44] him every day what did you know what do you know about him now that you didn't know before you took [27:48] this job how hard how hard he works like he he's you know in most most superstars i've been around [27:57] work extremely hard um but but his work ethic man it's it's it's it's off the charts i like he [28:06] he goes and shoot we have shoot around usually at 10 a.m and he goes whether we're at home on the road [28:13] every freaking day and i'm a late night guy and i had to adjust because he makes me tired because i got [28:22] to get up now at 7 30 and meet with my coaches because we're having an early shoot around and [28:30] not most of the time every time so his work ethic is is second to none on top of that you know he's [28:38] pretty even killed never gets too high never gets too low and when your leader's that way which [28:44] you need to have especially when you hit adversity it's easy to get everybody else to follow because [28:51] i can be that way but as a coach players gonna tune me out at times but when it comes from within [28:57] uh it's hard to tune each other out especially when it comes from your leader or your best player and so [29:05] that in itself is special and that is similar to steph and to uh tim their their their quiet strength [29:15] or even killed strength all the time mike the uh the number of notable alumni supporting this team [29:24] for this entire season beyond the season of what does it mean to you that you know they're living [29:29] vicariously through you guys and you guys have taken this franchise to heights that some of them [29:33] haven't been able to reach it's fan it's fantastic it's man it's great to see it's great that leon and [29:40] mr dolan had these guys around uh obviously pat he's iconic you know and then you got john starks [29:48] and marbury and you know there's just a plethora of other guys that you see come to our games and [29:53] and you know we encourage that we i love it and they always have a nugget or two that they can pass on to [30:01] the guys that are actually playing now and um when again when you can hear it from different voices [30:08] um or different people especially guys that play because i didn't play i was terrible but [30:14] uh from guys that played it means a ton and so to see them be able to celebrate with us and joy on [30:23] their face it's priceless for sure mike i know it's hard to start at the end and work your way in the [30:30] beginning when you have to look back but was there a point this season where you felt like the group [30:36] made a collective decision that they were going to come together and start and not start doing the [30:42] right things but they were going to make a decision to get to this point like after maybe the two and [30:47] nine stretch in january what dolan said you got to make the finals or else or whatever was there any [30:51] point that you felt like they're starting to get it and it's less my voice and more of their voice it's a great [30:58] question um that's good you know down the street down the stretch there was there was always a little [31:08] bit of a question you know whether or not we'd be able to get over the hump you know but down the [31:15] stretch of the regular season i don't like with i don't know six seven games to go uh after landry got [31:24] back i think i started to see us play some good basketball and do some things uh do do do more [31:32] things that were selfless or uh or more sacrificing from the group so maybe then but you know throughout [31:41] the course of the season you have your ups and you have your downs and you have your good and your bad [31:46] and your adversity that you have to fight through and and you know sometimes we got through it quickly [31:52] sometimes it took us a minute to figure it out um so it probably towards the end of the season when [31:57] i was like okay i can feel it this group is the right where we need to be at the right time of the [32:05] year mike you talk during the year about the ups and downs you're going to go through just what you've [32:13] done over this 11 games first is this the peak here are you seeing that peak that you uh [32:23] uh yeah i mean again our group is they're playing good basketball and they're they're doing it in [32:31] different ways you know um they're doing it differently depending on who our opponent is [32:40] and when you show that type of versatility on both ends of the floor uh it just adds it adds to your belief [32:48] and i've said it before you know the regular season you use regular season to get ready for the post [32:55] season and our guys did a hell of a job with that thank you guys what's up you feel like this series [33:52] ultimately came down to um i'll say shot making i think that that they made shots some obviously [34:12] some open and some just tough shots and uh i don't think we may really any just that's something it's [34:22] pretty much pinpointed you came here you were talking about championship for this organization [34:31] they haven't been this far conference finals since 2018 they haven't been here without lebron in more [34:37] than 30 years so when you look at those two realities how are you processing this um i think we we [34:50] accomplished a lot still short of the the goal but i think we accomplished um you know getting to the [34:59] conference finals you know and there's now there's another level to get to maybe two levels to get to [35:05] i think a lot of that is just you know maybe our first time together and you know the first two [35:11] series is we had opportunities to um handling handling the series is much quicker and we didn't we didn't [35:20] take advantage of it which you know trickled down to having to go two game sevens um which is difficult to [35:28] now face a team who's you know offensively playing extremely well and rested so uh it's a little a little [35:36] frustrating you know but i think the um you know being here two and a half three months is uh you [35:42] know that team's been together for some years so which you still don't get brownie points for it but [35:48] you know i think we we've we're in a in a good space and we got some work to do but um you know [35:55] we had a good season you mentioned them being together for a long time and you've also said since [35:59] you got here it's such a short time for you to get acclimated to them and them to get acclimated to [36:05] you and stuff like that is it your hope that this group remains together and do you believe that the [36:10] outcome yeah we're a very very talented group you know like i said we you go through we don't have [36:19] the experience with you know playing amongst each other in playoff postseason basketball so literally [36:24] it's our first time going through whatever we were going to go through and i think we accomplished a [36:30] lot you know winning game seven at home winning game seven on the road like and getting to the [36:36] the conference finals now we have to take another two steps um starting this summer but taking [36:43] another two steps and um and being even better now you get a full season of understanding what we have [36:50] as a group and uh setting ourself up like positioning wise for better like you know being a fourth seed was [36:56] tough you know so um yeah you just you take a step step at a time for you so personally how do you feel [37:13] that you take away uh i think i did pretty good you know like i don't even i don't grade myself off [37:20] shot making um you know i think coming here was just a piece to fulfill whatever needs to be fulfilled [37:29] and you know defensively being extremely solid offensively you know getting guy shots and fitting [37:36] into a system that was already in place you know so i think i did uh i think i did good you know obviously [37:43] i could have been better i feel like i always could be better you know but i know one thing that i [37:47] work extremely hard you know what i'm saying like and things just don't go the way you you would like [37:55] them to you know i mean as far as shot making but i think you you know is being as seasoned i that i am [38:02] and experienced that i am i try to impact the game in other ways just because i know that we are capable [38:07] and you know when i'm not making shots we're still capable of winning games and we did that so um [38:13] you know also just you know from you know regular season playing you know 34 minutes to you know i don't [38:22] know if i led the playoffs in minutes but you know close to you know playing a lot of minutes a game so [38:27] the transition was was was uh was was a little different and um i got to prepare myself for it [38:35] hey hey james um kenny's taking a lot of criticism you guys getting swept what have you learned about [38:44] him in your time with them and how do you think he did as a coach for you guys uh ultimate players [38:50] coach like he gets it he understands um he understands his team and uh yeah of course somebody's [39:02] going to have to take the criticism whether it's you know myself or kenny or like whoever the entire [39:06] team whoever like somebody's gonna they're going to put the put it on somebody but i think for for [39:12] kenny he did an unbelievable job of uh getting me acclimated as fast as possible to you know [39:19] understanding what i'm supposed to be doing out there and um you know it's just an unfortunate [39:25] situation you know i mean like any team coming off a a tough two two series against two defensive [39:33] monsters um it would have been challenging and i don't necessarily like maybe the first three quarters [39:39] we play well i don't even know if i don't even know if the first half in the first game game one [39:44] i think maybe that third quarter we play well we actually made shots and then other than that i [39:48] don't necessarily can't remember a quarter where we actually made shots like as a group which is [39:53] like you're not gonna win because any team so uh it's just uh that's a little frustrating because we [40:01] did we did play so well and we put our put ourselves in positions to to be successful um you know it just [40:09] didn't it just didn't it just didn't end up that way in this series thinking the nicks have all this [40:17] rest we don't we've been to two game sevens like this could affect you know we could have dead legs [40:25] it could affect our shooting or were you surprised by all that you said was i thinking it were you [40:29] were you concerned that could be a result of the consequence of the way the first two rounds went i mean [40:34] at a point you're we all have like sometimes we have concerns but you have no choice like it is what it is [40:41] you got to go out there and figure it out and fight and i think we did an unbelievable job of [40:44] doing that you know what i'm saying like you look at this film and we had unlimited open looks and we [40:51] just didn't make them and they made them you know i mean like if we make shots then this this is a [40:54] completely different series if they miss shots it's a completely different series you know but they made [40:58] them so this league this league is a make or miss league and you make shots it makes it a little bit [41:02] easier you know especially defensively so um you know it's a little frustrating in that aspect that [41:08] we did get some really good looks you know but yeah new stuff about yourself as a play you feel like [41:24] this season coming to cleveland you learned something new about yourself yeah like i've been i've been [41:29] fortunate to be in different situations different roles um and so just this last few months has just [41:38] been an opportunity to learn how can i implement myself into a situation that's already you know [41:44] put together and figure out um figure out other ways to impact the game instead of going into a [41:54] situation where i'm just i'm already comfortable i'm or it's it's evolved around me like you know me [42:01] coming here is and i was an opportunity to like adjust and figure out how to play with you know all these [42:07] other guys on the team that already had a system that's been in play for a few years so it was it [42:12] was uh it's it's challenging you know i mean but it's it's a it's a it's an um it's like a opportunity [42:20] to just to learn you know learn yourself learn the team learn you know what benefits what works for [42:27] you what doesn't work um and it was still that like you go you go what 15 to 20 regular season games [42:33] and then you get right to the postseason so um i think i did an okay job you know i always feel like [42:39] like i said i always feel like i can be better but um got a long way to go james obviously it took a [42:47] heavy lift on all sides to get you here yeah um but you do have a contract option coming up do you [42:58] and then you could decline and do some other stuff and still be here do you want to be here and do you [43:03] expect that you'll be here uh yes 100 definitely both to answer yes want to definitely want to be [43:11] here i think we um i think we found some i think we found some like it's just it's tough just not [43:22] ending it how we wanted to but i think we found something yeah um james how you and don were both [43:34] ball dominant guys so how difficult will it be to improve that um when you're on the floor together next [43:43] year um from like i said like like i just answered like for me it's you know when don has it going [43:49] on where he's you know being aggressive you know it's opportunities for me just to you know play off [43:53] the ball and and you know let him do his thing and um and sometimes you get caught like in a just you [44:00] know waiting waiting and not touching the ball for a few possessions but you got to be okay with that [44:05] and that's one of the things that you know coming from even just previous situations you know i haven't [44:10] not that really was it was the you know was the was the uh case you know i was always and had the [44:16] ball in my hand so like situations like that where you know internally you know it's it's sometimes [44:23] it's better for our team but you know outside it's like okay well james isn't being aggressive [44:27] it's like you got somebody that's averages 30 points a game who's you know who got it going so [44:32] finding you know how to pull off the ball when to go get the ball when to search myself when to be [44:37] aggressive when to play make like all that happens possession by possession you know so you got to [44:41] just figure out and i think for the most part we did a pretty good job um you know so i think you [44:47] know going into the summer and going into next season figure ways to make it even better and then um [44:54] reflecting on this series how much better if they're better are the next thing than you guys um [45:04] i mean i can't even like i can't even answer that question honestly you know i mean like yeah it was [45:11] 4-0 but i don't think we get we had a chance as far as our best shot um you know from from a standpoint [45:21] of the circumstances you know obviously they just they they dominated us uh 4-0 but um yeah i don't [45:31] know if i can necessarily answer that question just because genuinely i do feel like we we are we are the [45:36] better team but you know series wise you know i didn't show it so it's a tough question to answer [45:43] james i know you referenced that donovan talked about it multiple the other night too i guess [45:53] looking back on this series how much do you think you guys are going to reflect on that as a missed [45:59] opportunity that's probably one opportunity but you know there's a handful of opportunities off the [46:06] top of my head that i can think that that uh that if it would if it were to go different we wouldn't [46:14] be in in the position where we are right now you know i'm like you take for instance the first series [46:20] in toronto i think it's toronto had opportunities two times to to win up in toronto um we go to game [46:28] seven there got an opportunity to close out detroit we have two opportunities to win in detroit the first [46:35] two games have opportunity to close out in game six you know go to game seven like all that compounds [46:41] for now we're playing extra games and extra minutes and now we go into a situation where [46:46] you know we and then you know we grab up a 22 point lead so just a few things a few [46:50] you know for all of us that you know i feel like if we were taking care of business we're not in [46:55] this situation but in reality you know we are where we are right now yeah donovan will be eligible to [47:03] sign an extension in the summer and there's all kinds of big picture questions that come along with [47:07] that what what is your level of confidence that he can be you know a one-a guy that can lead a team to [47:13] a championship what was the uh what was the second part what's your comp what's your level oh i'm very [47:20] very confident very confident like you know this team is is not even where we are where we at without [47:27] him so um and this is his first time making it to the conference you know finals and you know i'm sure [47:33] he he wants to to improve and do things um so we can so we can advance and get even further and um you [47:40] know so um i think as a team we get better individually and you know we let front office you know do what they [47:49] do and we just focus on what we can control and um and just keep pushing yeah obviously that says [48:05] about a lot about the success that you've had it says and you still haven't gotten to the pinnacle [48:08] how does how does that hit you um still here right still alive still going like that's all i can do [48:17] like as much as we want to like um feel sorry or you know or doubt like our journeys or our paths in [48:29] life whether i'm whether it's me whether it's you guys like you know you got to just keep pushing [48:35] you got to keep putting the work in like i was in the gym 8 30 this morning like putting up shots and [48:41] didn't make a three today you know what i'm saying but like it's a part of life so it's like [48:46] you know i can't i'm the one that has to sit here and and live in it so i'm i'm more and overly [48:53] confident who i am as a person the work that i put in and the dedication that i have to this game [48:58] and that's why i'm still playing you know at a high level so you know i'll keep pushing and keep [49:02] pushing and keep pushing until you know until i can't play anymore and um you know we'll see when [49:09] that happens james you mentioned that you believe that you guys are still the better team even after [49:16] this series what makes you believe that we are i feel like we didn't have a fair chance honestly you [49:21] know i mean like we didn't play not one a quarter of of just calves basketball like offensively [49:28] and that right there is the frustrating part because we did play well you know from from [49:33] since i've been here like we've had stints we played extremely well we made shots and that gave [49:38] us a chance and you know it's only so much you can do defensively so many so many stops you can you can [49:43] get especially against a great offensive team you know i mean so if you're not making shots like i [49:47] said before you're not going to beat anybody what is it that you're going to take from this season [49:54] into this summer your time with the caps nothing for me i'm going to focus on [50:00] and preparing myself and my body to come back for 18th season and and figure out you know what [50:09] best fits this team and how i need to play and what what i need to do individually to be the to be [50:15] better than i was and and go from there like um i let everything else play out and handle itself but [50:23] i think now in just my space and where i am i gotta you know always focus on how can i be better how [50:28] can i get back to um just being in better shape being a better leader being a better [50:35] just basketball player you know i mean that's that's the most important thing for me um so yeah [50:41] thank you guys i know you's the one too who did that last time yeah i guess for both of you just the [51:09] feelings that you guys have talked so many times about you know not letting go of the rope not [51:13] celebrating early to now be out on that court surrounded by knicks legends and getting that [51:19] trophy just kind of the feelings of what you had out there i mean it feels good i mean we're excited [51:24] we're happy we won but we're also not satisfied and just now we're going to celebrate tonight but [51:29] then once tomorrow comes start resting and preparing for the next round what oh oh i mean what he said but [51:39] this seems hungry and that's the most important thing even with an amazing historical win we had [51:45] tonight um the celebrations were minimal you know we really want to get back to work ask coach can we [51:51] get back to work quick um we know what happened last time we had a long layoff so we're uh we already [51:57] talked after the game right away about preparing you know getting to practice getting back to the work [52:03] uh it's what's made us special and it's what's gonna give us a chance to win the next series [52:06] carl speaking of that that long layoff you're going to be in a similar situation where in the [52:11] west you have two teams it's all tied up they're going to be battling it out in a long series and [52:15] you guys are going to be waiting and you saw sort of that early letdown in game one of this series [52:20] what specifically did you learn that's not going to happen this time around i mean we just you know [52:27] obviously rust will be a thing uh just not having shot in an nba game in a while but um we'll do a [52:33] better job this time around of just preparing for that kind of situation to happen i think that [52:39] obviously the coaches have done an amazing job getting us ready for game one but obviously we [52:42] just didn't go out there and shoot well i think that looked up one point we were at four percent [52:46] from three so we just got to figure out a way to get those kind of game like reps um i think the [52:53] coaching staff heard us clear loud and clear we want to get back to work to keep the rhythm and also [52:58] maybe change up the philosophy of how we have those uh i guess scrimmages that we we had last time [53:03] that we didn't do last time so i think we'll be better prepared but at the end of the day [53:08] it's all about execution desperation energy we got to bring it game one guys congratulations um jalen [53:15] wins eastern conference finals mvp um what is it about what a wild surprise um what is it about uh his [53:24] style of leadership mike compared him to steph curry to tim duncan just like when you guys see him day to [53:29] day what what about his leadership is special i think he just puts the work in you know he has a [53:33] like we always talk about that's what i think not only makes it makes all of us special because all of [53:38] us are putting work but he he also really really puts the work in and um i know if you know jb's [53:44] you know merch line and everything like that it's always about the magics and the work uh he is a [53:48] testament of that he believes in that he showcases that every single day to all of us and it uh [53:53] drives us all to be better what he said i mean he works hard every day and then the results speak for [53:59] himself carl you guys are basically statistically the best playoff team of all time shooting playoff [54:08] team of all time has there been any point in this stretch where you're like taking it back or shaking [54:15] your head and just how well you guys are shooting or how well you guys are playing or just kind of [54:20] amazed at how well this has gotten so far i mean no because we put the work in you know me and og up here [54:28] uh we we see each other putting that work in every single day countless hours the hours that [54:33] don't get documented the hours you don't see on social media um you know the hours we dedicate [54:39] away from our families from our for a lot of the guys in the locker room their kids their wives you [54:43] know it's it's it's it's it's adamant you know it shows it shows in these in this run we've had [54:49] that a culmination of uh all the hours dedicated to our crafts have uh led us to be in this moment [54:56] hey og congratulations on making final day um eight years ago in this arena lebron hit the game [55:05] winner over you with um when you were still with toronto now with this team you're on the other side [55:12] of a sweep against cleveland is it a full circle moment for you what does it mean for you for this week [55:20] to you like personally oh not really a full circle moment because it's a different team different [55:25] situation but i mean it's amazing to you know we have a great team amazing for us to come out and [55:30] play the way we played you know we put in a lot of work we're very well coached and very well prepared [55:35] and it's showing on the court you know the way we're playing offensively defensively the way we're [55:39] executing and we play for each other we're a very together team and we just want to see each other [55:44] succeed og you had an injury early on in this postseason you were able to come back you're playing [55:53] i think the best basketball that i've ever seen you play what is it that's that's different with [55:59] your body is this the best you felt the deepest into the season and what's that yielding um yeah i [56:06] mean i prepare like i'm like cat said like just hours in the gym in the weight room preparing you know [56:12] we have a great medical staff my work extensively with andrew bar andy bar um andrew small and anthony chico [56:21] our trainer and i'm just always with them always getting extra treatment and then in the weight [56:25] room preparing you know ty and shimon you know we we work really hard and i feel great i feel amazing [56:32] and yeah carl a couple of us were talking to clyde on the court after and he was talking about [56:38] that you you guys remind him of the championship teams because it can be anybody on any night [56:44] that so many pieces are clicking right now just kind of what do you see in that that jalen got the mvp but [56:50] talks immediately about teammates how is all of you i mean we've got we've gotten to this point [56:56] because we we've worked together we've been a team we've been unified the collective group has shown up [57:03] in in in spots when we need to landry shaman of course you bring up deuce mcbride uh mitchell [57:08] robinson uh you could go down the list of players on our team that at special moments in the playoff run [57:14] have showed up and and been huge contributors to our success so jalen of course deserves mvp had an [57:23] amazing series um do what he always does but it's it's it's been a team that's won these games because [57:30] the defense we've played as a team has been phenomenal and um as a team we've hit shots you [57:35] know and like he said you know uh as we've we've put each other in positions to succeed and excel and [57:42] because of that we're finding ourselves with this hat this trophy the shirt and having a chance to uh [57:48] cement ourselves in history for last two carl what what does it mean for you to not only get to the [57:56] finals but do it for you know the hometown your hometown team in a way and can you grow up rooting [58:01] forward yeah i mean it means the world um i've grew up a knicks fan as is documented and i think what's [58:10] more of an honor is growing up in the area i feel like the word hope has been gone from the new york [58:17] knicks name for a long time and to for me and og to be part of this team that revives the word hope in [58:23] the city um it's it's something special it's something really really special and it's an honor [58:29] and it's um it's one of those things you know when i was growing up watching the knicks it was [58:35] just hoping one day you could just put the jersey on i never knew i'd be in this position at this mic [58:40] talking about us going to the finals and the city believing in us and that speaks a lot to [58:47] the camaraderie of this team that the character of this team the willingness to sacrifice everyone's [58:52] been willing to put forward for the betterment of the team and like you said there's nowhere better [58:58] in the world when the garden has hope just to follow up on that for both of you um how do you [59:06] walk the line because there is so much hunger here for people to win a championship how do you walk [59:11] that line between being focused on winning four more um still appreciating the moment but knowing [59:17] that you gotta you still have to focus on yeah yeah i mean experience experience teaches you a lot [59:25] i've this is my third conference finals in a row and it finally got over the hump you know finally got to [59:31] the finals and for me i'm gonna enjoy this moment i'm gonna enjoy tonight i'm gonna enjoy this moment [59:38] flying back with my teammates um you know having that this you know understanding what we've done [59:46] it's a magical thing it's a historical thing it's something that new york has been dying for for a long [59:50] long time and we'll enjoy that plane ride but once we get in those cars to go to our respective homes [59:56] it's gonna be back to business you know so we're gonna get back to it tomorrow i already know how this team [1:00:02] works and how all of us are already already talking we're all gonna be in the gym tomorrow [1:00:06] probably getting shots up getting treatment doing what we need to do to get ready for the next series [1:00:11] already and you know we'll enjoy this moment tonight and it's okay it's okay for new york the fans us [1:00:18] our families to enjoy this moment and be jubilant about this but for us as the players we understand [1:00:23] that the job's not done and we got to get back to work tomorrow and there's no better day to start [1:00:29] than tomorrow with the next series all right guys thank you appreciate it hey donovan every time [1:01:14] we've we've sat up here and reflected back on a playoff series loss you've always said that it's [1:01:19] come down to something that you've been able to pinpoint what do you feel like this series against [1:01:24] the next game down to the toronto and the detroit series i mean y'all asked me a thousand times if [1:01:29] we retired i can't tell you yes but i mean we did this to ourselves and that's not an excuse they're a [1:01:35] hungry team they beat us right they beat us swept us so i don't want to diminish that but we didn't [1:01:41] give ourselves a chance because we didn't handle business i told them guys in the locker room i said [1:01:45] now we know like for a lot of us we've never been here um you can't play with your food we had an [1:01:51] opportunity to close both series and give ourselves some rest um and we weren't and then obviously [1:01:57] there's things in this series you can point to whether it's all turnovers defense whatever but you [1:02:02] got to be able to give yourself a chance and we had an opportunity game one and then we blew that so [1:02:05] um the two series before having to go seven and that and it's our fault like we did that to [1:02:15] ourselves and that puts you in a tough position against a team that's um not only been to the [1:02:20] conference finals knows what that takes but also has the rest mental preparation um and then on top [1:02:27] of that having game one happen and we didn't execute that's it's on us um and we couldn't control [1:02:32] that and that's what happened you guys the first conference finals like this and how do you process [1:02:45] the reality of taking that step in your career but i think honestly the first thing my mind jumped to [1:02:55] was just those two series it's like that's my learning lesson that's our learning lesson um as much as [1:03:04] i'm grateful for overcoming something that's been an obstacle for me personally for for nine years [1:03:11] um there was an opportunity for us before that um and whether it's a missed blockout bad shooting night [1:03:24] um a bad decision um happened two consecutive series um and that put us behind the eight ball and that's [1:03:34] my biggest my biggest um my biggest thing is just like you gotta give yourself a chance and then you go [1:03:45] to this series and we're up 22 and you lose like that's that's where my head is at i mean yeah i [1:03:54] mean the conference finals woohoo you know i mean but we had an opportunity and you give credit where [1:03:59] credit's due they they are playing really well and they they're hitting some shots like you know i mean [1:04:05] they're playing well they're doing they're hungry but when you have an opportunity to to to to put your [1:04:11] foot on somebody's neck you have to do it in this league you have to otherwise this is the result [1:04:16] group stay together yeah i have no no uh no doubt that this group can can get there i've said that [1:04:28] all year um i think the the biggest thing is you just use as a learning lesson it's a it's a [1:04:34] it's a tough learning lesson um but now we know right i mean that's not how i like to say things but [1:04:43] you know i mean we know like you know what i mean and this team that we just faced had to go through [1:04:48] this maybe not this way right but um every they've been together they've been a core group [1:04:54] and had to had to go through this tough experience so this is it's our turn um and [1:05:02] i'm sorry for for the city of cleveland for us to for it to be like this in a sweep like that's ass [1:05:09] like you know what i'm saying but i told y'all last year and i'll say again we'll be back and we'll [1:05:14] be ready we'll be hungry we'll be locked in um but yeah i hate to copy what i said last year we took a [1:05:37] major step mentally like i hoped um as a group but there's another level um when i don't mean [1:05:46] necessarily maybe in game maybe it's um in your training in your nutrition uh rest um but i think [1:05:57] the biggest thing is to be able to play this long the one thing i've learned is it's as much mental as [1:06:02] it is physical i think physically yeah we're all beat up everybody's beat up but i'm gonna keep hammering [1:06:07] to the point if we put teams away in those first two series i'm not saying you know like i give i [1:06:16] gotta give my respect to to them for sweeping us but you know we didn't do that and i think that's [1:06:23] that's the biggest thing and that comes down to mental focus like you look at me an eight second [1:06:29] violation against the raptors can't happen right like you know i'm saying shooting six of 20 in game [1:06:36] six against detroit can't happen right like so you know the turnovers for all of us to miss blockouts [1:06:45] the that's all mental it's all stuff we can control and being able to control what you can control [1:06:50] individually um you know if it's two mistakes for for max and it's two for me and it's two for james [1:06:56] that's two forever that's eight right there you know i mean god forbid those aren't threes like you [1:07:00] know i'm saying so um that's the biggest thing is being able to mentally stay locked in at every [1:07:07] second and you see you saw it with with this team right they've been doing this since really since [1:07:11] they got hit in the mouth against atlanta um you know so use it as fuel and get better and we'll be [1:07:18] ready for next year i've said the same thing danny just i love it here um i don't know how else to [1:07:34] say it i've said it before i signed the other extension like i love it here and i have no doubt [1:07:40] this group can can get there um but you know reports are going to be reports people are going to be [1:07:46] people but i said the same thing we have unfinished business um it's great energy to see the city you [1:07:55] know when we got to the conference files just to feel that like that's amazing you know what i mean [1:07:59] and that's why getting swept like this sucks because you know you feel what like even driving in like [1:08:05] people are going crazy like i love that i love that about this place man like it's it's the city [1:08:12] deserves a ring and we just we just got to keep going and and um yeah that's the same [1:08:21] question did they take that next step yeah and no i mean the ultimate goal is a championship right [1:08:39] so in that perspective we failed but we were 17 and 16 at one point there was conversations from all [1:08:50] of y'all right um and i want to and i said this in the locker room and i wanted to hear it to that to [1:08:57] that point naquan tomlin tyrese proctor craig porter i'm missing somebody please jaylen tyson we're not [1:09:07] here without those four right like there's this the success part comes from stuff like that like [1:09:15] we started jaylen for like 30 some games started tyrese started kwan started craig like that's huge [1:09:25] that's a big part of why we're able to be in this position alone um and they didn't know that coming [1:09:31] into the season shoot i didn't know that you know what i mean and they worked out they worked their [1:09:35] tails off um so when i say yes their success it's little things like that right like just seeing [1:09:41] the growth from a lot of individuals in this locker room i'm very proud of that the the locker room for [1:09:47] that um but a lot of the young guys man like they don't get enough credit they held us afloat um we had [1:09:53] injuries upon injuries upon adversity and jaylen tyson's getting 40 races getting 15 and 20 points [1:10:01] kwan doing windmills people comparing him to brahan like craig it's been for not like you know what [1:10:06] i mean like that i love that for that for those guys man like that that is huge and that's where [1:10:11] this i i think there's success because you know that that's what this is about and you know for us [1:10:19] the guys that have been there the the we we understand like we got to we got to a point um but [1:10:23] we don't get here without that and without them um so i think that's where the success comes in [1:10:47] i would hope he wants to be back um but yeah i i there's so much um he's helped this group and [1:10:58] myself get to somewhere i've never been um and with that being said that's with three months of work [1:11:04] three months of prep three months of whatever now we have a full summer um of conversations of film [1:11:11] of working out together training camp like you have a whole year now right now we have a whole [1:11:16] year to kind of go over certain things and what we see um and that's tough you know you don't always [1:11:21] make moves at the deadline statistically and kind of improve a lot of championship teams don't really [1:11:26] do that and for us to do that it was impressive um for sure but ultimately it wasn't enough and um [1:11:34] he he he wants to to get back to that that mountaintop i do i want to get there for the first time [1:11:40] this group does and what he's been able to do not just for me but for this group um special it's just [1:11:58] hilarious um we've done something that we haven't done since 2018 and we're still going like there's [1:12:08] gonna be criticism everywhere like we're we're on kenny right but why we got here like some people not [1:12:15] saying kenny or us believe but some people consider it's like oh this is this is great we we did it [1:12:20] but we did it with kenny we didn't just go out there and coach ourselves right so then people are going [1:12:26] to be people people probably criticize me just as much and james and but i love kenny we love kenny [1:12:34] we ride with kenny and ultimately that's all that matters right like i don't i know for a fact he's from [1:12:40] long island he don't give a damn like you know i'm saying but it's it's it's just the world we live in [1:12:47] we could have made it to the finals and got swept somebody's gonna say something i told you [1:12:51] that even if we won there's gonna be something like can we do it like it's always going to be [1:12:54] something right and it's always gonna be something for people to say um but ultimately we're in the [1:12:59] thick of it we're we're in it together um and that that's my biggest thing it's just people are [1:13:05] gonna be people and honestly who cares you know i'm saying we're wearing this together everybody's [1:13:22] beat up though well everybody's got something is what it is i look fine today all right so if you're [1:13:33] out there between those lines it don't really matter man i'm fine yeah this is the second second [1:14:00] time we've lost on our home floor in a row um to end the season um you know i made the comment about [1:14:10] the knicks fans in our building and all that yesterday or the game when and we didn't shut them [1:14:17] up so you have to look inward what more can we do right um so that's the biggest motivation um [1:14:26] that and the fact that i gotta go home and hear about it for probably the next i don't know three [1:14:31] or four months so i'm a pretty motivated guy but that'll probably be a little bit more um but i have [1:14:38] no doubt for the group that you know this will take this on the chin and we got to take our lumps we've [1:14:42] got swept and got to own it that's what happened but what are you going to do about it like how are you [1:14:48] going to respond i've been saying this all year how are we going to respond and i would say our response [1:14:52] from last season was pretty good can we do it again and i have no doubt we will we just ended [1:15:15] the game joe i don't know when i'll see you again um that is not for me i don't i'm not trying to get [1:15:24] a headline that's not for me um i'm not going to answer that's not for me that's a kobe altman [1:15:30] question that's a mike gansey question because i know no matter what i say no matter how i say it and [1:15:35] how i try to navigate it um it's going to be a thing so i'm sorry joe i'm not going to give you [1:15:42] anything you have to ask kobe and and them all i know is what we got in the locker room and i go [1:15:47] to ride with those guys every single day of the week that's all i got last couple years there's been [1:15:56] a lot of questions about the bigs what did evan and jared show you throughout this playoff i mean [1:16:03] they showed who we believe them to be and we know them to be i think the questions really came [1:16:08] externally as for as opposed to internally um i told j man i'm really proud of him you know what i mean [1:16:14] because not that he sees what y'all say but like for him just continuing to to to battle to to do his [1:16:20] thing and be quite the unsung hero in a lot of cases and really have a i don't call it a breakout year [1:16:27] but like really just be able to kind of shut people up and i know like i said i know he doesn't care and [1:16:30] i said it in detroit like he doesn't give it he doesn't care i've been cursing too much but i think [1:16:38] for us we knew we knew how talented they are we know how talented they are um and just to see the [1:16:43] progression especially jay but also evan right like two injuries back to back um he didn't make [1:16:49] the all-star team and didn't make an all defensive team which is it's his own thing um i don't know if [1:16:55] he qualified but like if he did it's his own thing um he should have but i just i just really love the [1:17:01] fact that those guys continue to to take the steps that we know they're capable of taking and they have [1:17:06] and it's it's great to see did this run give you um if i said we weren't hungry enough then i i must [1:17:26] have misspoke i don't want to put that on my my teammates at all um but i will say like we showed [1:17:34] a lot we could have folded a few times right like especially the second round like that's a big game [1:17:41] six was tough um shut my phone off but i assume it was it was a lot one in the world right like so [1:17:50] that's a organization altering series let's just keep it a stack let's be honest right and for us to [1:17:57] rally around each other um and and go out there and execute on the road um that tells you everything [1:18:04] you need to know and that's just one game um toronto coming back home taking care of business after [1:18:09] the rj shot goes in like you could fold there and be like damn right like that's also a serious [1:18:16] organization altering shot like you know i mean so i have no doubt that we are hungry and want to [1:18:21] continue um in a loss like this this fashion um definitely help for sure turnovers just enormous in [1:18:38] every series and 22 more tonight is that on you guys is that uh them defensively where does that [1:18:46] want that's on us and that's part of the stuff you learn it's like all right you got to value [1:18:52] every possession you give those possessions away it's tough it's tough to come back from that so [1:18:58] um i'm not going to say i'm going to go look at the film tonight but we'll look at it at some point [1:19:05] and and figure those things out but it's on us it's definitely on us it's not on kenny it's not on [1:19:11] what the other teams do you give other teams credit but we got to be better and some of them are careless [1:19:17] some of them are you know they just play good defense you know i mean or you lose the ball [1:19:21] it slips right but some of them it's it's it's mental it's a mental focus and you got to be you [1:19:26] know you got to be stronger with the ball and we'll go back and look at it and use it as fuel for the [1:19:33] summer it seemed like you guys had to get punched in the mouth the effort was really there the focus [1:19:41] was really there and you brought your best game why do you think tonight or in general what's that [1:19:45] you talking about tonight you're talking about in general in general there there have been games [1:19:48] where you know it took you guys getting down 10 12 points and then all of a sudden we see this we [1:19:53] okay there's the team a lot of people thought you would why do you think that was the case throughout [1:19:58] it's a great question um part of that is mine i made the comment of now you know it's unfortunate [1:20:10] that this is my answer i don't like that this is my answer um but it's that that that's a learning [1:20:15] lesson for us um just as much as i said not closing the door right like when you're up 22 [1:20:21] it's the same thing um i don't have that answer for you right now um but i will say that's something [1:20:31] that we will address in the summer and talk about because you're right it shouldn't take that if we [1:20:37] want to be a championship team right it's it shouldn't um and there's so many variables that [1:20:43] go into it right it's not just like coming out just me just trying to go shoot like you know [1:20:47] i mean trying to figure it out or whatever it is right but that can't happen if we want to be the [1:20:53] team we want to be and we skated by we were able to navigate through it but now you know and i hate [1:21:01] that that's my answer i'm sorry i do but it's just something that we will figure out and address and be [1:21:07] ready for next year obviously looking ahead a little bit next season boston's going to be healthier [1:21:14] indiana's going to be healthier detroit's going to be back new york's going to still be who they are [1:21:18] how does that fuel the preparation that you're going to have knowing that the east is not only going to [1:21:22] be as good as it was but potentially stronger we're still here matters [1:21:51] i mean i think this year is a prime example of that right like i think i challenged everybody last [1:21:57] year to use last year's motivation and i can confidently say one through 15 16 that we have [1:22:04] it looks a little different it looked different this year like it wasn't as seamless um but for [1:22:10] us to overcome we overcame this regular season to get to this point is a lot a lot of mental fortitude [1:22:16] that i'm really really happy with um so as much as i talk about what we need to improve when i really do [1:22:21] want to show love and appreciation for what we've done as a group what guys have been able to push to [1:22:27] whether it's injuries whether it's you know some guys have been in the gym getting treatment more than i've [1:22:32] ever seen them since i've been here like you know what i'm saying so i don't want it to seem like [1:22:36] i'm just saying all this negative stuff right like there's a lot that this group has the step has been [1:22:42] taken um i will say that um we talked about it last media day this year we talked about it at the end [1:22:48] of the season last year um and i think that that the biggest thing now is you gotta double down [1:22:54] you gotta do more um but i do think mental fortitude is there um and we just gotta double down on it [1:23:01] i think there's a lot to that um i think we ignore leadership by him i think we ignore [1:23:54] the human character of who he is um all positive things by the way um i think we ignore the empowerment [1:24:03] that he gives people um i think we also ignore his greatness in a major way i say we i really mean [1:24:12] y'all sorry um like this man changed the game of basketball like changed the game of basketball um [1:24:26] in ways that we've never seen before and we live in such a ring dominant culture that we're willing to [1:24:34] write a guy off because he hasn't gotten there god it's transcended basketball right like [1:24:41] in 75 years no one's been able to do what he does you can say the same thing about steph curry [1:24:46] alan iverson right like michael jordan james harden's in that so yeah like obviously i can relate to [1:24:55] not having reached a certain point but i do also feel like we we don't talk about his greatness enough [1:25:02] um we don't talk about the the the person he is he played alongside joellen beat and joellen be one [1:25:08] mvp he was two inches away from a conference finals finals with the brooklyn nets like some of [1:25:18] that is just unlock unlucky stuff like can't control that and he was on a bad hamstring we don't talk [1:25:24] about him playing through this man i don't know if his thumb is still messed up he hasn't said nothing [1:25:28] since the report came out we haven't heard nothing about it like we don't talk about the mental fortitude [1:25:33] to deal with that like i don't know what what it is if he's if he's healthy or not i wouldn't be able to [1:25:38] know because i i he has the same way every he could he could have one leg and he'd be the same [1:25:44] and i think it's really truly unfair to be honest um now more than ever now that i see it on a daily [1:25:50] basis um but that's just the society we live in that's the world we live in we we're a ring cultured [1:25:57] that's just how we are so like i said yeah i can't we can't we can't fight it it just is what it is but [1:26:03] i do think people overlook the greatness 17 years stark like it's a long time that's a long time and [1:26:12] i think we are so quick to jump on him and and get on him about what he's doing at 36 at 36 right like [1:26:23] let's not forget this man had he ran into a really good golden state team two or three times a team [1:26:29] like so um it's unfortunate but i know that's what drives him and that's ultimately as a teammate [1:26:37] it's what drives me um but we sometimes lose the plot on the greatness of that that individual [1:26:43] and what he brings to the game of basketball to the brand of basketball um so yeah i don't think [1:27:15] so in the moment i don't think in games two three and four we were like damn if we would have just [1:27:20] i think it was something we knew but i don't think it was something that really was with us mentally [1:27:24] um to be honest i didn't feel that at least from the group thank you appreciate you guys appreciate [1:27:40] you guys thank you thank you thank you um jalen you guys have talked throughout the whole playoffs [1:28:07] how hard closeout games are specifically um i think you guys won the three closeout games by [1:28:12] a combined 118 points i mean what does that say that you've handled these closeout games in such [1:28:18] dominant fashion um i mean obviously we've been playing hard uh mixing a little luck as well but um [1:28:27] i think most importantly we're becoming unfocused and um just focusing one position at a time and [1:28:35] then just playing hard for that possession and worrying about the stuff um the future later and [1:28:40] um we've been locked in on the moment and i think we need to continue to do that talking to mike earlier [1:28:49] when he was on the podium and he said the last maybe handful of regular season games he felt like you [1:28:55] guys started to turn a corner making a collective decision to play championship habits did you guys feel [1:29:02] it the same way or did you feel like just a switch flipped after game three in atlanta um i don't [1:29:12] think a switch flipped you know per se um i just think that was the start of the habits that we were [1:29:20] building really starting to show um you know this team is a very selfless uh selfless uh group and [1:29:29] at the end of the day we know we're willing to sacrifice our own individual performance or stats or [1:29:34] accolades for the betterment of the team and when you have um not just one two or three but a whole [1:29:40] team of those kind of guys and that kind of character um it puts you in a position to be [1:29:45] successful um don't say anything don't i see it don't say anything i know and then you don't come in [1:29:55] sucking your fingers you got you got chicken wings you're supposed to be asking questions you [1:30:00] wouldn't got chicken wings no no you don't get none oh man them wings are hitting though they're [1:30:13] hitting yeah yeah for any of you guys um clive was talking a couple something cool talking about [1:30:21] you guys remind him of his champion can be anybody on a night and jaylen got the mvp a special feel [1:30:34] uh yeah 100 i think it's important that you got the mvp no no no no no no he hasn't he's there no [1:30:48] he's there you got why'd you ruin it why'd you ruin that no prior what jayle was about to say but yeah [1:30:56] we all agree um and it's great and josh said we selfless and i think everybody out there who's just [1:31:03] trying to do one thing is win so no matter who's scoring you know who's doing anything i think we're [1:31:09] all just trying to play hard and at the end of the day just trying to get a next one [1:31:14] i guess this for whoever wants to answer the the story of alumni that have supported you all the [1:31:20] way through from clive to starks i mean from mellow to marbury they all say that they're living [1:31:25] vicariously through you guys some of them haven't been able to reach this stage just what does it [1:31:29] mean to you guys to be able to represent that level of alumni and make this make it this far [1:31:33] you got it you're the mvp he's the captain it truly means a lot because of um when they're out [1:31:52] that when when they're on the sidelines or baselines or whatever uh they make their presence known and [1:31:59] they're full of energy um and that's just who they are they just want the best for us and it's [1:32:04] it's a really cool sight to see um it's an honor playing for this organization and the history it [1:32:10] has and then seeing the former players around all the time and um that makes it even more special [1:32:15] jalen for you personally you know your dad obviously was a nick and you came here at a time [1:32:22] when the franchise wasn't the greatest of spots to see where they are now and the fact that you kind [1:32:28] of led the way what does that mean that for someone who kind of grew up grew up part of part of his [1:32:33] childhood in the area to kind of be the face of this re-emergence um i think first and foremost it [1:32:44] means a lot uh that the the belief that the organization has to me from mr dolan down to leon [1:32:50] west uh coaching staff and obviously my teammates um it means a lot and it's something i haven't really [1:32:59] put into perspective and thought about because uh as i said before now we're still writing our story [1:33:05] and so um i think in due time i'll be able to answer that in full entirety but i just i like [1:33:11] the journey that we're on right now i have two questions one for jalen and then one for either [1:33:17] mikhail or josh jalen um pat and clyde handed you the both trophies i know you've got to know them both [1:33:25] very well but i guess in that moment are you able to kind of like internalize just how cool that was [1:33:34] um not really until you said it um i think it's it's really cool like i said before like having all the [1:33:44] former players around and um their presence is known and um they don't say a lot but like they're [1:33:51] just always around to to support and so it's um it's really cool to have those guys around especially [1:33:57] guys with those caliber and um but it's not even just them it's everybody if you played here for a [1:34:02] week and now you're known and it's it's once a nick always a nick and so um it's really special to [1:34:09] have the the camaraderie that we have around the current and former players for josh or mikhail i'm [1:34:15] sure you have thought about just that table you guys won national titles together just the correct [1:34:25] me and kale won two and josh won one but continue well i was going to ask is it pretty cool is it [1:34:33] pretty cool to have this moment i know it's not the final trophy but the trophy sitting up there once [1:34:39] again um yeah it's something that is surreal um whenever you're in when you're in college and you're in [1:34:52] that locker room you always kind of um you know the goal is the nba and you know the percent chance [1:34:59] that you guys are going to be on the same team is very slim if not none and you know it's always [1:35:06] something you talk about and dream about but you know reality is almost impossible um so the fact that [1:35:13] it actually came to fruition is super cool because i know you know the time that these guys put in i know [1:35:19] where their hearts are um and you know we already share a bond and a brotherhood for life and um this [1:35:26] is just another step there obviously this is not the ultimate goal but um you know you just keep [1:35:34] adding memories to that and that you know these are memories that we'll have for a lifetime i appreciate [1:35:43] jalen one for you and michael and josh i thought you said one question it's going to roll into one [1:35:49] true okay i guarantee you jaylen jaylen you were the first domino to fall as far as coming here like [1:35:56] in like this old school way the nicks made a decision to essentially build the franchise around [1:36:04] your skills your unique talents like what does that mean to you and for josh and michael you guys were [1:36:11] brought in to supplement that and to protect him and you know and to back him up what does that mean for [1:36:18] you guys to be part of this story with him um like i said before i mean like the belief that the [1:36:28] organization has in me has been amazing and it's something i don't take for granted and it's something [1:36:34] that uh not a lot of people get the opportunity to uh to do so so i'm very thankful and it's um [1:36:43] it's honored to be here in the city and um for this organization and this uh with my teammates and um [1:36:52] yeah obviously these guys on my back and they've always had it and um wouldn't share that for the world [1:36:58] um no it's definitely i think it's definitely a blessing to be you know a piece of the puzzle [1:37:05] especially in this organization um you know like jb's saying just just grateful to be in this position [1:37:11] you know the organization believing in you know me personally you know bring me over here but um yeah [1:37:18] like no other no other player no other guard that i want to you know be belong besides jb so like [1:37:27] i'm just very grateful to be in this position and you know just got to keep it going thanks guys [1:37:34] or joshua or joshua or joshua same [1:37:38] or joshua or joshua same

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