Mark Carney's Most SCATHING Attack On Donald Trump After U.S. Criticises Canada's Alcohol Ban

[0:00] I want to ask about the status of the trade talks because I'm admittedly a bit confused. [0:04] The Americans, when I talk to them, they don't really kind of understand where this talk of an [0:09] entry fee is coming from, saying we've been very, very clear with the Canadians what our trade [0:14] irritants are. You had Howard Lutnick, you had Jameson Greer yesterday doubling down that dairy [0:19] and alcohol in particular were huge barriers to restarting trade talks. And Jameson Greer even [0:23] threatened retaliatory actions if Canada, if you don't convince your provincial colleagues to [0:28] remove some of those bans on U.S. liquor. So I got to ask, you know, considering yesterday you said, [0:32] I'm not backing down, we're not going to make any concessions to get Americans to come to the table. [0:36] What's the game plan here? Or what do you, what are you prepared to do to get Americans [0:40] at the table here? Or are you comfortable with this kind of awkward status quo that we have right now? [0:45] Look, I don't think that was an exact quote of what I said yesterday. So I'm going to, [0:50] I'm not going to associate myself with the way you framed it. There are a series of trade issues [0:56] between, between the countries. Most of the issues have been raised by the United States, [1:00] either in terms of things they want to see changed in Canada. There are a series of tariff measures the [1:08] United States has put in place which are in violation of the existing agreement. The tariffs on [1:13] steel, the tariffs on aluminum, the tariffs on automobiles, the tariffs on forest products. Those [1:18] are not consistent with the existing agreement. We look forward to sitting down. Look, we have an exchange [1:24] around these issues, both in terms of understanding what they, what I'll use their term, they often [1:32] use trade irritants, a series of measures, which would include actions that have been taken in [1:38] response to the American measures, such as the provincial actions. These are provincial actions [1:43] with respect to alcohol on the shelves. I mean, you've got to remember, the client here are the [1:48] provincial liquor authorities. They make the decisions, what they put on their shelves. [1:54] And they make those decisions based on a series of considerations, and they've taken that into [1:59] account. So our, our work is as follows, with respect specifically to the negotiations, is to be [2:10] prepared on all of the issues, to provide our perspective and address, to negotiate in the round on [2:20] all of these issues. This is a review process that's baked into the existing framework of the agreement. [2:26] And as well, to see where there are opportunities where we can be stronger together, and there are a [2:31] number of those. We have those discussions as a whole. You prefaced your question where you don't know [2:37] where this talk of a quote entry, I don't know where the talk of a quote entry fee is from, certainly not [2:42] coming from me. It's not language I've ever used. And it's not language I've ever heard from the [2:50] President of the United States. So, look, we're ready. We have an exchange. There's, it's more than ready. [2:55] There's exchange on, on both understanding the issues, and, and on opportunities for cooperation. [3:04] It's a negotiation. These things have their own rhythm. And they also have what's happening above [3:15] the surface and what's happening below the surface. And, you know, we'll see in the fullness of time. [3:19] Yeah, on that same vein, I guess my confusion stems from the fact that the Americans are saying, [3:24] not really a negotiation. We're laying out what we need to see Canada do, and Canada's not meeting us there. [3:29] That's a negotiation. That's a position. See, Yana, there's two parties in a negotiation. [3:36] One, we're not sitting here taking notes, okay, and taking instruction from, from the United States. [3:43] Understanding their position. Understand where it's in Canada's interests, when in our joint [3:49] interests to be stronger together. And this is a government that can do many things at one time. [3:56] We set up, to go back to today, we set up Build Canada Homes. It literally was set up in September. [4:02] The legislation to give it all of its authorities is still working its way through the House. We're [4:07] glad that we have a majority now. We can move that forward more rapidly. We're already in a position [4:13] where 10,000-plus homes catalyzed by Build Canada Homes are either under, you know, [4:18] these agreements are in place. We've got 1,400 homes are either under construction or will be in [4:23] the next two months. We're doing that plus large projects. We're doing it plus providing a [4:27] boost and a bridge to Canadians. We're doing that while continuing, despite unprecedented trade [4:33] measures being taken by the United States. We're the second fastest growing economy in the G7, [4:37] with the best fiscal position, with 20 new deals signed with other countries around the world. So [4:44] we're going to do multiple things at the same time. We have enough room. We're ready to go into [4:49] detailed negotiations. We're also ready to wait if that's what has to happen. [4:53] But last time I checked, Mr. Ford has a fair amount of control over the LCBO, [4:57] even though I appreciate it's independent. But you told him to cool it on the ad [5:03] that caused a lot of trouble. What if this alcohol thing... And how did that work? Did he listen? [5:08] Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what if this alcohol thing... I was right, by the way. [5:12] Well, what if this alcohol thing becomes more than an irritant? It's, you know, like... [5:20] Look, you know what's an irritant? 50% tariff on steel, 50% tariff on aluminum, 25% tariff on [5:29] automobiles. All the tariffs on forest products. Those are more than irritants. Those are violations [5:35] of our trade deal. Okay? The client of American producers, which ultimately there's a board for [5:47] the LCBO, for the SAQ, for the Manitoba. Manitoba, there's not just one, huh? They make those decisions. [5:54] And they make those decisions in a judgment. Yes, there's different governance structures. And yes, [6:00] surprise, surprise, the Premier of Ontario is influential with the LCBO. Okay. But he's the [6:06] client. He's also the duly elected Premier of Ontario. He's got a majority. And he's taking a [6:11] view, and he's taking a view which, you know, by most indications is supported by the vast majority [6:16] of the population. What we want to do is make progress as the whole. These issues, issues such as [6:26] decisions on which alcohol to put on the shelves, we can make progress very quickly on that. With progress, [6:35] in other areas. And I will just underscore, we understand that the, and this is the point I've [6:43] been making since day one, is that this long period of integration, deeper integration between Canada [6:49] and the United States is over. That nostalgia isn't a strategy. That hope isn't a strategy. We're not going [6:55] to go back to exactly the way things were. The U.S. has changed. It's their right. They've changed. But we're looking to negotiate [7:01] something mutually agreeable. And there will be adjustments there. If, when we make progress, [7:10] when we make progress on that, I'm still confident that we will make progress. But, [7:14] and then those judgments will be made by, by the provinces. And we'll encourage those judgments. But [7:21] I don't have anything now. Just, just, and quickly, there seem to be two stories. The Americans are [7:30] quite specific publicly, and you've just been very specific publicly. But I keep hearing from the Trade [7:35] Minister, and somewhat from, from you, the tone that this is all part of a negotiation that, and [7:41] underscoring that, it seems to suggest that it's normal. Um, that, that this back and forth, [7:49] these kind of positions publicly and behind closed doors, it's a normal negotiation. I'm assuming, [7:54] like, like most Canadians don't see any of this as normal. It's, it's, look, uh, what do you think [8:01] rupture means? Rupture means that things are normal. Nostalgia is not a strategy. Things have changed. [8:05] Things have changed fundamentally. We get that. Um, we understand that. That's why we get up in the [8:11] morning. What do we think about when we get up in the morning? We think about affordability for [8:15] Canadians, how we can make life more affordable, and how we can build this country strong, more [8:20] independent, more prosperous, fairer for all. That's what we get. And our negotiations with the [8:28] United States, and how we diversify our partnerships elsewhere. We don't get up first thing in the morning. [8:33] I do not get up first thing in the morning to think about the United States. Okay? I think about [8:37] Canadians. That's the difference. We have more than enough to do in this country. We're building this place [8:42] strong. There, there is a misimpression by some of the degree to which we are reliant on the United [8:51] States. Okay? Yes, it is our biggest trading partner by far. We are also their second biggest [8:59] trading partner. There is a symbiosis between the two. There's a reason why 85% of our trade is [9:06] tariff-free still. And that's, that's maintained. Um, our destiny is first and foremost going to be [9:13] determined by what we do here, how we build here. Canadians get that. Canadians get that. I'm not [9:19] sure everyone south of the border understands that to the extent it is true.