KASH PATEL IN PANIC? Epstein & Mar-a-Lago Questions Rock Senate Hearing — WORLD NEWS — US NEWS

[0:00] Welcome Director Patel. We have a recurring topic about your grand jury testimony [0:13] and to this date we still don't have either a transcript of or a description by you [0:21] of your grand jury testimony. Let me ask you with respect to that grand jury testimony, [0:35] was there ever a court order preventing you from divulging your own testimony as is every grand [0:48] jury witnesses right? I don't believe there was a court order but the investigation at the time was [0:56] ongoing. Okay so no court order. Was your right to disclose your own testimony ever limited by the [1:12] Department of Justice either sealing your testimony or instructing you not to provide it? I don't know [1:23] you'd have to ask the Department of Justice. Well how would the Department of Justice instruct you [1:35] not to exercise your right to divulge your own grand jury testimony without you knowing about it? [1:42] Whether it's my grand jury testimony or anyone else's that's up to the individual whether they [1:47] want to or don't want to. Correct. And you said that you you've said that you did want to so we're [1:53] over the hurdle of whether you wanted to or not. You actually testified to that fact. So then the next [2:01] question is were you inhibited from doing what you wanted to do and disclosing your own grand jury [2:08] testimony by any order of the Department of Justice? Not that I'm aware of. Okay all right um let's [2:20] and you're aware that to this date you still have not disclosed a summary of your testimony or a [2:25] transcript of your testimony or uh given us any information about your actual grand jury testimony. [2:32] But as I've said the courts can provide that transcript. I've said they should. You actually are [2:38] the one who can provide the not the transcription. Not the transcript. Well that that testimony occurred [2:43] what four years ago? So the transcript is the best evidence that information and the courts and any [2:49] American can go plead to the court for release of that transcript. Yeah and you can also describe [2:56] your testimony and you have so far not done so correct? Four years later no. Ever like from then [3:02] until now. Yeah the transcript is the best evidence of that information. So the transcript should say that. [3:09] So um let's change to um Jeffrey Epstein um with considerable effort by uh ranking member Wyden on the [3:24] Finance Committee um a bevy of suspicious activity reports um were brought to everyone's attention. Those [3:36] suspicious activity reports related to financial transactions with accounts associated with Jeffrey [3:45] Epstein um in some cases with banks. Russian banks that have since um been put under various restrictions [3:55] and in some cases uh dealing with old Soviet countries and Russia itself. Now you have Epstein associated accounts. You have transactions um that relate to sanctioned banks. Um you have the reason that these were suspicious activity reports being denominated as danger of money laundering. [4:32] Danger of trafficking. So and by the way their headline is suspicious activity reports. Which I think is a pretty good clue that there could be suspicious activity in there. Um has there been any investigation by the FBI into those Epstein related suspicious activity reports? [4:57] So the SARS that you're referring to are a tool in which the Treasury Department initiates an investigation based on information produced by the banking system. [5:06] And so any suspicious activity reports go first to the United States Treasury and if there's something that they find they refer it to us. [5:13] So there's been no referral? I'll have to go back and check. [5:18] And the FBI can't look into suspicious activity reports on its own? [5:22] It's the province of the Treasury Department first. First. But if they don't move for whatever reason when you have Epstein suspicious activity reports that are reported to [5:33] actually even relate to trafficking of girls um shouldn't that be enough to get the FBI to follow [5:42] up on that? We'll follow up on any credible information as I've said since day one. [5:45] But you didn't with respect to these suspicious activity reports correct? [5:49] I'm not saying I didn't. I'm saying I'd have to check and get back to you. [5:51] OK. Well, Mr. Chairman, we went like zero for answers from the FBI for our questions for the record from a year ago. [6:02] So I hope that if since the witnesses now here under oath said that he's willing to get back to me on that, [6:08] I hope that I can have the chairman's support in getting answers when we ask that as a question for the record. [6:14] So also related to Epstein, we have law enforcement authorities in Poland, Norway and Latvia who [6:29] have said that the department has not responded to requests for Epstein related information in their [6:36] investigations into Jeffrey Epstein and his network. And there's public reporting from the United Kingdom [6:47] that they, too, have not been provided requested information. This tends to go through your legats. [6:56] And I would assume that the FBI was involved in processing those requests for Epstein information. [7:03] What is the status of those requests? And why has the FBI not yet provided the requested Epstein [7:10] information to your law enforcement coordinates in those four countries? [7:15] Well, as you said, it's a requested Department of Justice so they can comment on the status of it. [7:22] If we assisted in any request for information like we do all the time with our European partners, [7:26] we produce relevant information that we are lawfully allowed to give and turn it over to the department [7:31] to hand over to our partners. I don't know the status of each individual case. [7:34] Do you know whether any information has been provided to these four countries' law enforcement operations? [7:45] I'm not familiar with the four countries you're talking about, what law enforcement they're talking about. [7:50] But we always and routinely provide information. [7:52] I guess we'll have to follow up on that. I had thought that investigations related to Jeffrey Epstein would be [8:07] enough of a priority that when other sovereign nations ask you for Epstein-related information [8:14] and there's public reporting that you failed to comply with their requests, that that would be something you would [8:21] know about and not be caught by surprise by. Well, I'm not sure what public reporting you're talking about, [8:27] but public reporting generally is inaccurate. Well, this is authorities in Poland, Norway, and Latvia [8:33] specifically. It's not just the public reporting. Well, let's try something else then. Let's try the remaining pages [8:46] of the FBI documents that have not yet been provided pursuant to the Epstein disclosure law. As you'll recall, [8:55] the travel of this was that a woman testified to FBI agents that she had been both sexually and physically [9:03] assaulted by Donald Trump around the ages of 14 to 15. There were FBI 302s that resulted from those [9:10] investigations, from those interviews. In the first cull, the only 302s that were released were the ones that [9:21] did not mention Donald Trump. When the department was caught having held back the other ones, I think [9:29] because bait stamps revealed their existence, the department then coughed up the 302s that did mention [9:39] Donald Trump. But we still have 37 undisclosed pages that seem to be the contemporaneous FBI notes that [9:50] would have formed the basis for the 302 summaries. Am I accurate in suggesting that those 37 pages [9:59] likely include the FBI contemporaneous notes from that interview, from those interviews? [10:06] We have complied with the statute and the court orders and produced three and a half million pages [10:13] of documents for the first time ever. Investigators looked at the information in real time in the [10:18] prior investigation and made the determinations on referrals for prosecution and not. We've also [10:24] repeatedly stated if there's new information, we want everyone to come forward so that we can analyze [10:29] that information as to what is and isn't remaining. So what are those 37 pages? I don't know what you're [10:34] referencing. We've produced three and a half million pages and we will continue to comply. [10:39] Yeah, but not these 37. You say there's 37 pages. My time has expired. Thank you, Chairman.