Jasmine Crockett On Her Senate Loss, The Democratic Party & Black Political Power

[0:00] Every day I wake up, wake your ass up, The Breakfast Club. [0:05] You all finished or you all done? [0:06] Morning, everybody. [0:07] It's DJ Envy, Just Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. [0:10] We are The Breakfast Club. [0:11] Our sis Angela arrives with us this morning. [0:13] Good morning. [0:14] It's election day and we got another special guest in the building. [0:17] We have Jasmine Crockett. [0:18] Welcome. [0:19] Yes. [0:19] Good morning, Cindy. [0:24] How are you feeling? [0:25] Oh, my God. [0:26] I am so worried for this election to be over. [0:28] I think everybody's tired. [0:29] But I think that it's going to be a really good night. [0:32] I don't know if it's going to be as good as the polls think it's going to be, [0:35] but it's definitely going to be a good night if you're a Democrat. [0:38] You know, Texas got one of the most closely watched Senate races in the country. [0:41] Yes. [0:41] For everything you've experienced this election cycle, [0:43] what are you feeling this morning? [0:46] You know, I think that Texas is going to be closer than what everybody thinks [0:50] is going to be, what the polls are saying. [0:52] But looking at the turnout, listen, it's the theory that I put out there. [0:56] I said that we're a majority-minority state right now. [1:00] People of color are leading the way in the turnout. [1:02] I said that we had the votes. [1:04] We just needed to turn people out. [1:06] We have so many new voters right now. [1:08] So I think that Texas is doing what it needs to do. [1:11] So I think it's going to be a really good night. [1:13] It's still Texas, but I think that if Republicans stay home, stay home, [1:18] I think it'll be an even better night. [1:20] One of the things that I have been fascinated with over the last couple of days [1:25] is Haley Stevens, your colleague in the House. [1:29] Yeah, I'm going to bring it up. [1:32] I'm going to bring it up because you caught a lot of flack for endorsing James Tallarico, [1:39] not appearing with James Tallarico, though. [1:41] And Haley Stevens said, hold my beer. [1:44] I'm going to go ahead and endorse the Republican, [1:46] show up to Perfecting Church where he couldn't get a standing ovation. [1:49] And I'm talking about Mike Rogers. [1:51] She showed up to endorse Mike Rogers, who is running against Abdul El-Sayed. [1:55] What do you say to that? [1:56] And if you were seeing Haley Stevens today [1:58] and anybody who would be influenced by her, what would you tell them? [2:02] Listen, first of all, I think that Haley did Abdul a favor, honestly. [2:07] I will tell you that there have been reports that there have been some issues [2:12] specifically within the black community with Abdul, [2:14] but I think that this is actually going to give him a boost. [2:17] So I think when he wins tonight, he may need to call Haley and say thank you. [2:22] He had an infusion of cash of over $2 million in 24 hours at the very end of a tight race. [2:27] That's the kind of day that you want. [2:30] And I think that a lot of people were frustrated in the role that Haley attempted [2:34] to put the black church in this. [2:38] She could have went out, endorsed him, got on her social media, left that at that. [2:41] I still take issue with it. [2:42] As a Democrat, I don't think that you can say that you're a team player [2:45] and you were running to run against that particular person. [2:49] And then you say, never mind. [2:50] I would rather it be the Republican. [2:53] And the reality is that, listen, Mike works with us. [2:56] We know his voting record. [2:58] For everybody that is upset because their insurance premiums are up, [3:01] which is basically everyone, they should feel like this is a problem. [3:04] For every single black woman that is out of work right now [3:07] because of what this administration has done, they should feel like this is a problem. [3:12] And for everyone who wanted just Congress that was going to stand up for them [3:16] as it relates to this war and hopefully keep some money in your pocket [3:19] as it relates to gas, they should all be upset. [3:22] So here's the reality. [3:23] I think that Haley is done with politics or she's decided she wants to be a Republican [3:28] going forward. [3:29] And we will see what happens when we get back into Congress next week [3:33] about how the caucus decides to deal with this situation. [3:36] Even though you're not going to be in the House anymore, [3:39] you're not deciding to become a Republican. [3:41] So for folks at home in Texas who are saying, [3:44] I still don't know about James Tallarico, [3:47] what's the closing speech you would give to encourage people to go and vote [3:51] for James Tallarico over Kim Hexin? [3:52] Listen, I think here's my issue. [3:54] You know, we have had a problem on the Democratic side, [3:56] whether it's Texas or otherwise, where we are looking for perfection. [4:00] And one of the things that I say all the time is I'm out on the trail [4:02] is stop looking for perfection in your preachers as well as your politicians. [4:07] You will never, ever find it, right? [4:09] So the thing is, like, it's the 80-20 rule, right? [4:12] Like, forget focusing on, say, the 20% they don't have. [4:16] Focus on the 80% that they can't provide. [4:18] So, you know, this may not be your favorite. [4:20] This may not have been your pick. [4:22] Regardless of where you are in this country, including Michigan, right? [4:26] This may not be your favorite. [4:27] This may not have been your pick. [4:29] But I promise you, you're going to get 80%. [4:32] And you probably need to just say, we can roll with that. [4:36] And the final thing that I'll say is that when I'm on the road, [4:38] I usually tell people all the time, I say, listen, you know, [4:41] so many of y'all decided that y'all will get married for life. [4:44] And you don't agree with your spouse on everything. [4:47] So we just ask them for two years, four years, or six years. [4:49] And if you don't agree with us, you can dump us. [4:51] Now, you said the polls might not reflect the outcome. [4:53] What's your concerns with that? [4:54] There's a reason. [4:55] The polls have been completely off. [4:56] They're completely off. [4:57] They don't make sense. [4:58] In Democratic states, the numbers are so tight. [5:01] So I'm like, how is it we flip in Republican states and at the same time in Democratic states, [5:05] like, they're running tight? [5:06] When you look at Minnesota, which I wouldn't say is solidly blue, [5:09] obviously is more purplish, that is a tight race. [5:12] They're saying that the Minnesota race, Senate race, is super tight and the Texas race is wide open. [5:17] Like, that doesn't make sense. [5:19] So ultimately, I think that, you know, for me, I've looked at more so the demographics of a state [5:25] and looked at whether or not that state was participatory. [5:27] I think one of the reasons Mississippi is at play, it is 40% black. [5:32] There is no reason that Mississippi should not be a blue state except for the fact that they are not voting. [5:37] Same thing in Texas. [5:37] It's a non-voting state, but we have the demographics. [5:41] And when you look at South Carolina right now, people think South Carolina may or may not be in play. [5:45] Here is the reality. [5:47] I talked to Jamie yesterday, Jamie Harrison, and he told me that African-American participation right now is at 28%. [5:54] That is higher than the percentage of black folk that they have in that state. [5:58] They're at about 26%. [5:59] That is huge. [6:00] That is helpful. [6:01] Millionarily voters, too. [6:02] Right, exactly. [6:02] 1.1, I believe. [6:03] I mean, they're hitting historic numbers, but I will tell you that something that most southern states did that nobody really talked about is they had tickets that were reflective of the people, right? [6:14] So you have Dr. Jermaine Johnson, who is a black man, who is running for governor, and then you have Annie Andrews for the Senate position. [6:22] Same thing in Georgia. [6:23] You have John Ossoff that is running, but then you have Keisha Lance Bottoms that is running for governor. [6:29] Same thing in Florida. [6:30] You have Angie Nixon that is running for the Senate, and then you have David Jolly that is running for the gubernatorial. [6:38] We can go on to Tennessee. [6:39] Same thing. [6:40] Black woman running for Senate. [6:41] You've got a white woman that is running for governor. [6:44] I think that the best thing specifically for southern states to do is to actually look at how can I maximize bringing out every single part of the demographic. [6:52] And no matter what happens, if we end up with, say, Annie Andrews going, which is what people believe, and Dr. Johnson not, which I honestly think Dr. Johnson may be the stronger candidate of the two, if I'm being perfectly honest. [7:05] But at the end of the day, it will be because Dr. Johnson was on that ballot, and he was able to bring out black folk. [7:10] If David Jolly, which they keep saying David Jolly is doing better than Angie, if he wins, it will be because Angie Nixon was on that ballot. [7:17] And so I think that we need to start thinking about that more strategically, specifically in the south, and almost every southern state figured out how to do that. [7:25] What did the Texas primary teach you about Texas politics that you didn't fully understand before? [7:31] How scary Democrats can be and how much they try to project what a Republican will do. [7:38] You know, even when you look at the editorial boards that endorsed against me, they didn't endorse against me because of qualifications, because of my platform, because of my experience. [7:48] They endorse against me saying, well, she's crazy because she's not going to go after MAGA. [7:52] Ultimately, I don't think that the story that will be written in Texas will be about MAGA. [7:56] I think the story that will be written in Texas will be that the diverse coalition that exists in our state actually came together, which was my theory. [8:02] But that is not what, you know, those over the media believe is the winning answer. [8:09] And I think ultimately, when we look again, when we look at South Carolina, when we look at whatever happens in Mississippi, it will be talking about the diversity. [8:18] It doesn't mean that, you know, specifically diverse candidates are not going to speak to everybody because they we always govern for everybody. [8:25] As a sitting member of Congress, I govern for every single person that's in my district, regardless of their political affiliation. [8:31] But I think that we have to have specifically a conversation with the Democratic Party about making the investment specifically into black folk. [8:41] This election cycle, we saw whether it was in Michigan, where Mike Rogers was spending all kinds of money. [8:48] He had his wife out at the gas stations with gas cards handing out money. [8:53] He was running ads specifically to black folk trying to peel them off. [8:57] Byron Donalds is doing the same thing down in Florida, trying to make those investments into black communities and peel black folk off. [9:04] So stop looking at black folk and saying, well, they're going to show up. [9:07] Yes, we will show up those that will and we will do the right thing. [9:11] Every candidate, if they win on the Democratic side, is going to have the best numbers out of a demographic known as black folk. [9:18] That is true. [9:19] But to pull out more black people, stop playing with us, stop ignoring us and going after people that truly look at being a Republican as an identity. [9:29] It's like looking at me and saying, yeah, you black, but pretend you not. [9:33] And when you go deep south, a lot of them, it's an identity. [9:37] The other thing that I'll finally say is I don't want Democrats to be disillusioned with this idea that once they win today, it's because people love the Democrats. [9:45] No, that is not true. [9:47] What they are is they're frustrated with the Republicans. [9:49] And so you are going to have to deliver. [9:51] I mean, heavy is the head that wears the crown. [9:53] You are going to have to deliver for the American people an agenda that makes them say, you know what, I do mess with the Democrats. [10:01] And I think that that may be the biggest challenge. [10:04] That is where the Republicans kind of went wrong. [10:06] They delivered, but all they delivered was harm. [10:09] Do you think some of the issue is we spend a lot of time talking to black folks as consumers, like even like business talk to us as consumers and not as, you know, shareholders in an economy. [10:21] When you consider how we're talked about in the political process is black voters. [10:25] It's not, you know, black electoral power, black overall civic engagement is part of the problem that we like start and stop every election. [10:35] Yeah, I think that that's a problem just generally with the Democrats. [10:38] We don't stay engaged. [10:40] One of the things that happened down in the valley that people don't understand in Texas is Republicans actually set up these like centers. [10:47] And these centers were providing diapers and doing all kinds of stuff year round. [10:53] So they were consistently engaging with the community. [10:57] We don't do that, right? [10:58] Like everybody knows as soon as the politicians show up to the black church, they're like, oh, oh, it's election time. [11:03] Because they like all coming through, right? [11:05] And, you know, the reality is that people think talking to the average black person, you can say the same thing and you're going to get, you know, all the black people. [11:14] It's not true. [11:15] Black people, just like everybody else, we're not a monolith. [11:18] But right now, I want to say that black wealth and black equity are the things that we're striving for the most. [11:25] And honestly, most politicians are not even talking about how we can put black folk into a better situation as it relates to wealth and opportunity. [11:33] We're not having the conversations around what do these contracts look like? [11:37] And do we have people that are in position that are saying, you know what, 20 percent of the taxes that we're getting in, they're coming from black folk. [11:43] But how much of this governmental money on the city, the state, the county or the federal level is then going back into their pockets to create generational wealth? [11:52] We're not having those conversations. [11:54] We're not talking about the fact that folk are unable to get their home loans, unable to get their business loans. [11:59] We just simply like ignore that entire conversation. [12:03] And I think specifically when it comes to black men, that is one of the things that is most frustrating because they're saying, yo, we want opportunities. [12:11] Not don't tell us about how you want to raise the minimum wage, because that's not what we're trying to go do anyway. [12:16] Like we want to build our own for our families. [12:18] And to be perfectly honest, the best way to really build black wealth in this country looks like, hey, you know what? [12:25] Let me make sure that this black person has a black business, because guess what? [12:29] They are more inclined. [12:30] The numbers show it. [12:31] They are more inclined to hire black folk. [12:34] So Jasmine Crockett is here, right? [12:37] That's right. [12:37] But she wants everybody to go out and vote all throughout the country. [12:39] But yes, definitely in Texas. [12:41] Yes. [12:41] Yes. [12:42] Yes. [12:42] Yes. [12:42] Yes. [12:42] Hey, hey, hey, hey. [12:43] Wait a minute. [12:44] Vote the entire ticket. [12:46] I am so tired. [12:48] Vote the entire ticket. [12:49] But, you know, and this is everywhere. [12:51] One of the reasons everybody's nervous in Georgia. [12:53] But Jasmine, when you say vote for people at home who don't know what vote the entire ticket means, describe what you're saying. [12:58] Yes. [12:59] I want you to vote for every Democrat on the ticket. [13:01] I need you to go all the way down. [13:04] You see what I'm saying? [13:05] Like that's not it. [13:06] No, go all the way down. [13:07] Because, you know, people look at Georgia. [13:09] When you look at Georgia, they have only gone Democratic for federal races. [13:14] They've done it for presidential. [13:15] They've done it for Senate. [13:16] And the reason that Georgians are not getting the full love that they need is because they've not changed that governor's mansion. [13:24] And for all of y'all talking about Ossoff or Warnock need to be president, you're going to need a governor, Keisha Lance Bottoms, to make sure that she can appoint whomever. [13:33] If for some reason they both run, one of them runs, I know Senator Warnock is absolutely saying he's looking at it. [13:41] You're going to need if one of them is successful, you're going to need a governor, Keisha Lance Bottoms. [13:45] Don't wait until after. [13:46] If I can be like, oh, well, now we got a Republican as a senator. [13:50] Right. [13:50] When we looked at the redistricting efforts, it wasn't me that got to say so in what my district would or would not look like. [13:57] It was the state level. [13:59] And if people think this redistricting fight is done, it is not. [14:02] They are now going to go into the state houses, your county positions, your school boards, your city. [14:06] They're going to do it everywhere because, as this president has said, he has said, vote, vote, vote. [14:11] But if that don't work, cheat. [14:13] They are not above cheating. [14:14] He has told them to do it. [14:15] And so you have to start playing the long game, y'all stop just being like, OK, well, we showing up for this one. [14:21] And then we done our work. [14:23] We have to stay in it. [14:24] They stayed for 50 years to get rid of Roe v. Wade. [14:27] We have to be committed. [14:28] And we know that there is a 2028 election that is coming up. [14:31] We know that we have to change the party that is in the White House. [14:35] And so y'all got to keep this energy up. [14:37] In fact, I want bigger and better energy when it comes to the presidential election 2028. [14:41] We got a wrap. [14:42] So Jasmine Crocker, we appreciate you joining us. [14:44] But tonight we're doing a people's election night. [14:46] So break it down on what's happening and if people can still pull up on us. [14:49] Absolutely. [14:50] So the people's election night. [14:51] And since you're welcome, I don't know if you're hopping to another state before the end of the night. [14:55] But 8 p.m. to midnight Eastern, we are going to be live in New York City. [14:59] To register, you have to RSVP at peoples election night dot com. [15:04] At that point, we will share the address for security reasons. [15:07] And then we have a breakfast club will be joining us for a part of the program. [15:11] We have Fat Joe, Nick Cannon, Janae Nelson from LDF, which is the legal defense fund who argued the Supreme Court case on redistricting, on voting rights, and tons of other guests. [15:21] And Gordon, Bakari Sellers. [15:23] Yes. [15:23] Keep naming them, guys. [15:24] Talk about the people with range. [15:26] Oh, I think, I think. [15:28] Yeah. [15:28] And I'm so sorry that it feels like people don't have range, but I think we have a lot of people with tons of tons of different experience that matters. [15:36] And that is your everyday lived experience as well as your political experience. [15:40] So I do want to ask you, Jasmine. [15:41] So when you lost the Senate primary, right? [15:44] Like what hurt the most? [15:45] Was it losing the opportunity? [15:47] Was it the way things unfolded? [15:49] Or was it the criticism that people gave? [15:50] I think, I think what hurt the most was the lies, like dealing with, you know, Republicans lying on you is one thing, but having your party literally just make up stuff when it's like you have receipts, you've been out there, you know. [16:05] It was, it was the lies that people put out there simply to seemingly propel my opponent. [16:13] I think that that's what hurt the most. [16:15] And then I think after the fact, just believing that or, or putting out this rhetoric that basically I'm a sore loser. [16:22] And I'm like, bro, that's not even the case. [16:24] Because if you are going to run for an office like Senate in a state like Texas, before you enter the race, you have to say, you know what, there's a chance I could lose. [16:34] Like you have to say that. [16:35] Right. [16:36] So I accepted that before I even ran. [16:38] And personally, you know, there are people that want to stay in politics forever because they feel like they need a title. [16:45] That's never been me. [16:46] I always needed change. [16:48] That was the only reason I engaged in politics. [16:50] Like I, if you can run a million pieces of tape on me where I'm like, I hate politics. [16:55] Right. [16:55] Like I do, I still do. [16:57] But I'm in love with the opportunity to create better for people. [17:02] So when people are like, oh, she a sore loser. [17:03] So she won't do this or that. [17:05] No, what y'all need to understand is that none of y'all have ever run any elections. [17:08] Number one. [17:09] Number two, you definitely run a winning election in Texas. [17:12] And number three, when you choose a nominee for whatever position, you have to trust them to run the game that they ran. [17:19] Right. [17:20] Like he was selected because he said that he was going to go after Republicans. [17:23] That is what they said that I couldn't win, which also there was a lot of racism in it. [17:29] Just like, oh, well, she can't win. [17:31] And it was all because I was black and or female. [17:33] Right. [17:33] But also just this idea of, OK, my idea was to go after kind of the people that nobody ever talks to. [17:41] That was my idea. [17:42] That's where I wanted to to zhuzh up the voter turnout. [17:46] And for those that haven't studied the numbers, you know, I got more votes from black folk than Barack Obama got in 2008 in raw numbers. [17:56] Oh, wow. [17:56] That is not like to win that primary. [18:00] I should have needed maybe five, six hundred thousand votes. [18:03] I did about twice that. [18:04] Right. [18:05] So like it wasn't so people were just saying stuff like, oh, she ran a bad campaign. [18:09] No, I was going to work, but I was still coming back and I was working super hard, working throughout the entirety of the state. [18:18] So it was just like the lies and the mischaracterization and the demonization. [18:23] And it wasn't coming from Republicans. [18:25] I'm going to be perfectly honest. [18:26] The best ads, the ads that I felt like were fair were actually the Republican ads. [18:32] So I didn't anticipate that the Republicans and the Democrats would attack me at the same time. [18:38] Most people don't have to worry about that in the primary. [18:40] Right. [18:40] But we had millions that was spent by our governor against me. [18:45] But their ads were fair. [18:46] The racist ads were coming from the super PAC on behalf of my Democratic opponent. [18:52] So, you know, that was kind of the thing. [18:54] But overall, I think after the fact, a lot of my hurt came for the down ballot candidates, because when Beto ran, he ran really, really hard with the down ballot. [19:08] And he doubled down on being a Democrat. [19:11] And he came like the closest. [19:13] Right. [19:13] Like he was like, let me go get all these Democrats. [19:15] He went all across the state so that everybody could hear from him. [19:18] But he swept in, you know, like 12, 13 state house representatives, including James Tallarico. [19:25] We flipped three court of appeals. [19:27] We were able to make real change in our state because it was bigger than just kind of that one position possibly getting over, which is something that we've seen in Georgia, where it's like, yeah, we've got the top. [19:39] It's gotten over, but we've not seen the change below. [19:42] So that's why you chose to focus on the down ballot. [19:44] Correct. [19:45] We've even seen in Tarrant County specifically, which is our third largest county in Tarrant County. [19:51] We know that Beto won that county, but nobody won countywide. [19:55] We know that Joe Biden won that county, but nobody won countywide. [19:59] But so then next thing, you know, it was in the national news that they cut on today one third of their polling location. [20:07] They cut almost 100 polling locations. [20:09] That decision was made by the county judge. [20:11] Right. [20:12] And so, you know, when we're looking at this state not having the numbers that we should have, it is voter suppression. [20:18] It is a bit of voter apathy as well. [20:20] But it's these games that are run by people that are lower down. [20:24] And even when you look at cutting out my seat or chopping and screwing the seats up in general, that came from the state level. [20:34] So, like, we got to be bigger than it's just one race and we've got to get people to vote the entire ticket, which is why I've been stressing that. [20:41] But if we're really going to see change in a state like Texas, we absolutely have to get some of these down ballot candidates across the finish line. [20:49] And you know what? [20:51] I can honestly say that I may not have been successful on the Senate race ultimately in the end because I honestly would have been doubling down on Democrats. [21:02] Like, I would have been focused straight up on Democrats and running with my down ballot. [21:05] You know, a lot of people are against what you said vote the entire ticket, right? [21:08] Because it goes back to the day where you vote what your mama voted for. [21:11] You vote what your grandmother voted for. [21:12] Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, Democrat. [21:13] And people are against that because they're saying maybe one Democrat might be for you, but there might be a Democrat on that line that's not for you. [21:20] So a lot of people are against this. [21:21] A lot of racist white people do that, too, though. [21:24] They'll go vote for John Ossoff and be like, I'm not voting for Keisha Lambert. [21:27] Correct. [21:27] No, it's a real thing. [21:28] Yeah, they do. [21:29] But I will tell you that, again, this goes back to us understanding how this works, right? [21:33] So you may love, like, for instance, when I was in North Carolina, I kept saying, you may love Roy Cooper, and I want you to love Roy Cooper, and I want you to send Roy Cooper to the Senate. [21:44] But, like, even when I went into North Carolina, the whole coordinated was like, hey, we really want you to focus on the down ballot. [21:50] Like, everybody else understands the power of that because Roy Cooper can't do nothing by himself. [21:55] It is a team sport. [21:56] And even if he gets the numbers in the Senate, you still need something to happen in the House, and they gerrymandered those districts in North Carolina. [22:05] That was another one of the states where they're trying to take more seats away. [22:08] So he's going to need a partner. [22:10] Same thing with federal dollars. [22:12] Like, most people don't realize, yes, we go off to D.C., but the only reason that we know that you need roads and bridges and whatever it is that you need is because the person on the city level, the county level, the state level says, hey, give us this money. [22:23] When we look at a state like Texas, and as I brought up Tarrant County, Tarrant County is not pulling down on federal dollars. [22:31] If they end up electing a Democratic county commissioner's court, even if they don't rock with those candidates, I promise you that county hospital, they may be looking to close because they're not going and getting those dollars on the federal level. [22:46] They will now. [22:46] So you have to look at it and say, if I want my favorite to be successful, my favorite needs a real big team. [22:54] It needs a backup. [22:54] Exactly. [22:55] You know, one thing that you mentioned, you talked about chopped and screwed seats. [22:59] For those at home, you're talking about redistricting. [23:02] Texas was the testing ground. [23:05] Correct. [23:06] For what the Republicans did to Louisiana, Alabama, what they attempted in Georgia, attempted in Mississippi. [23:12] What they did in North Carolina. [23:14] Yeah. [23:14] What do you wish they tried to do in Missouri. [23:16] What do you wish they would have, that folks would have learned from what happened in Texas? [23:22] State legislators left the state like you did when you were in the state legislature to avoid that vote at all costs. [23:28] They sent the sheriff after former colleagues of yours that tried to prevent this redrawing of districts. [23:35] What do you wish folks at home knew and what could we have done differently or better? [23:39] Yeah, I think that right now, this is your chance. [23:43] That's what I want people to know is that you've got to vote every single election. [23:47] Exactly. [23:48] You've got to vote every single election. [23:50] When it comes down to U.S. reps and House reps on the state level, we're voted in and out every two years. [23:57] So we've got to stay focused on that. [23:58] We know that the census is coming up in 2030. [24:01] The normal time that we go through redistricting would then be we get new seats for 2032. [24:06] And so it is important for us to get these gubernatorial mansions. [24:10] You know, a lot of people are not talking about Nevada, but we need to be talking about Nevada as well. [24:15] And some of these other black. [24:17] Yeah. [24:17] Some of these other black folk that are running for governor, because when even if they don't have the numbers in the House and the Senate, [24:24] we need somebody that's looking at these seats and saying, you know what, I'm not going to do this because it's racist. [24:29] And when we looked at the data afterwards, there were a lot of allegedly white folk, according to polling, [24:38] that said that they weren't really tripping about what was happening to these districts. [24:43] And the reality is that when black people are in power, I promise you, it helps everybody. [24:49] When I fight, my fight is for the most marginalized. [24:53] Everybody benefits. [24:55] And so I want people to just stay diligent to make sure that they know who their state reps are, [25:01] make sure that they know who their state senators are, and that they specifically are voting those races. [25:05] The final point that I'll make is that, you know, as I've been stressing the down ballot, down ballot, down ballot, [25:10] it is very personal to me. [25:12] I came from the down ballot. [25:13] A lot of people are like, where did Jasmine come from? [25:15] I was here the whole time. [25:16] I've been the same person the whole time. [25:17] It was just less cameras on me, but there is so much talent as everybody's like, oh, well, where's our talent? [25:23] Even for the entire country that has gone, like, Tala Frico crazy, he came from the down ballot. [25:28] Like, y'all got to understand that, like, this is a great training ground for your current and your future leaders as well. [25:36] It's great. [25:36] When you talk about the black people on the ballot, the black effect is real, right? [25:40] And not even just the black effect, the brown effect. [25:42] Because I think if there was no Jasmine Crockett, Tala Rico controversy in Texas, if there was no Dr. Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan, if there was no Angie Nixon in Florida, if there was no Jermaine Johnson in South Carolina, no Keisha Lance Bottoms in Georgia, even though people like Ossoff, I don't know if people would care about them in terms the way that they do. [26:02] I absolutely agree. [26:04] I think that we really need to better understand what black folk bring to the table. [26:10] And again, and you're saying black and brown, and I'm not hating on brown whatsoever. [26:16] We know that the numbers are going to be there when it comes to black folk, right? [26:20] Like, we know that the average Democrat should walk away with no less than 80%. [26:25] Most of them should get about 90%, which is why when they did go after the seats, they specifically went after black representation. [26:34] That is where they target it because they know what black folk do. [26:38] And listen, what black people do, it's not to say that black people are in love with the Democrats, because I'm not going to say that whatsoever. [26:45] But black people, as I've heard over and over and over, they vote for harm reduction. [26:50] And that is what they do. [26:51] So, like, we don't have the privilege of being like, well, this person on this one issue, unless that issue specifically is blackness, we like, okay, we just don't have to deal with it. [27:02] Like, that's what we do, because we understand that making some progress is a lot better than regressing. [27:08] But I agree with you in the sense that people are going to have to give their due respect to the black folk that are on the tickets in these southern states. [27:19] Charles Booker in Kentucky. [27:21] Charles, all of them. [27:21] His homie in Mississippi. [27:22] Scott Colon. [27:23] Scott Colon. [27:24] Yeah, I mean, and I don't... [27:26] Jamie Davis in Louisiana. [27:27] I think a lot of people are sleeping on him. [27:29] Common sense farmer that, like, has blown my mind. [27:32] Jamie, listen, I thought that there was a lot of opportunity in Louisiana because of the Calais decision. [27:37] Right, because it came right there out of Louisiana. [27:39] And black folk went to the state house. [27:42] They were fired up. [27:43] They were pissed off. [27:44] So, I was like, okay, cool. [27:46] And they had a recall effort. [27:49] And the recall effort didn't really go the way that I really wanted it to go. [27:52] And I thought, this is the organizing tool. [27:54] If they organize this recall, then we're going to be in really good shape. [27:58] But black people are showing... [27:59] Again, Louisiana is another one of those states where literally about one-third of the state is African-American. [28:05] They should have two congressional seats in that state. [28:08] They should have two congressional seats in Alabama. [28:10] Alabama is another one. [28:11] They had them in Louisiana. [28:12] They eliminated it. [28:12] They did have them, and they eliminated it. [28:14] Same thing in Alabama where they're trying to get rid of Shamari Figures. [28:19] I think Shamari Figures is going to overperform. [28:21] You also have Doug on the ballot. [28:24] I think that it's going to be interesting. [28:26] And the story of the night is really going to be about black folk. [28:30] And, you know, as I've gone out, I said, forget the candidates on the ballot. [28:36] Forget whether or not you love them. [28:38] Be in love with yourself. [28:39] This election has to be personal. [28:40] It has to be deeply personal. [28:42] Going to vote has to be about yourself. [28:45] Because right now, we have been personally attacked as black folk. [28:49] We know that we were targeted as it relates to job loss. [28:52] We know that we were targeted as it relates to our representation in Congress. [28:56] We know that we've been targeted as it relates to our access to education [29:00] as they've brought in this anti-DEI movement. [29:03] We have been on the receiving end of everything this administration has tried to deal out. [29:08] So right now, this needs to be personal, and it needs to be about your get back. [29:13] That is my deal. [29:14] So forget the names. [29:15] This has to be about you and what you deserve. [29:18] And sending a message to this administration and any future administration, [29:22] if you want to play in our faces, we're going to show you that we can play back. [29:25] What is Jasmine Crockett doing after January 3rd? [29:27] Making money. [29:30] Making money. [29:31] Listen, y'all forgot. [29:33] You know, I mean, listen, I can't play the Trump games. [29:37] You know what I mean? [29:38] Like, he's out here breaking every law and should be under every jail you can find. [29:43] You know, we know, specifically as black folk, like, I'm not finna cull outside the lines. [29:47] Right? [29:48] And so it is a financial difficulty. [29:51] I mean, I remember talking to my pastor who was going to take my seat in Congress, and I told him. [29:57] Freddie Hayes. [29:58] Freddie Hayes. [29:59] I said, you shouldn't do this. [30:02] I didn't want my pastor to run. [30:04] Y'all are getting this exclusive. [30:06] I still vote for Freddie Hayes today. [30:08] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. [30:09] I'm not saying that. [30:10] No, no, no, no. [30:10] I just want to make sure it don't become a thing. [30:12] No, no, no. [30:13] Trust me, I've been in some stuff this week. [30:14] No, because my deal is, you know, I love my pastor. [30:19] And my pastor is older, established, and most ministers make money off of going and speaking. [30:26] Right? [30:26] Like, they go, we can't get paid to speak. [30:28] Every speaking engagement we do, we have to do it for free. [30:31] So there's, I mean, and he's a dynamic speaker. [30:34] So he got to cut all that out. [30:37] He has to cut all that out. [30:38] So you're reducing your income, yet you got to add a crib. [30:41] Right? [30:42] So now you have to add a second crib. [30:44] And so I'm just like, it's not worth it, you know, at this age to kind of rearrange your entire life. [30:50] For me, being single, being childless, like, yeah, I took a dip in money, but it wasn't really impacting, like, my child. [30:57] It wasn't impacting my husband. [30:58] And I had not built bills around, you know, something more extravagant. [31:04] Right? [31:05] Not to mention just the, you know, having to potentially be back every Sunday. [31:10] It is a lot. [31:11] Like, it's just a lot of strain on you. [31:14] And so, to me, if you love somebody, you're going to be real about it. [31:16] I mean, to be clear, I told Christian Menifee not to run in. [31:19] I tell him, you know, I told everybody as I was out there campaigning for him on the trail. [31:24] And my deal with Christian was different because Christian had little kids. [31:27] Right? [31:28] And so I was like, okay, sometimes people get an attitude when you bring your family to D.C. [31:32] But you spend more time in D.C. than you don't. [31:36] And, like, not being there with your little kids as they're growing up. [31:39] So, to me, I look at quality of life. [31:42] And I really try to counsel people in a very real and honest way so that they understand what they're getting themselves into. [31:48] For me, you know, I still want to help out as much as I can. [31:54] I have traveled just this cycle without me being on the ticket to Nevada, to South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Oregon. [32:05] Mississippi. [32:05] Mississippi, California, Alabama, New York. [32:12] That's all I can think of at the moment. [32:13] But I have traveled, like, all around. [32:16] And I fully anticipate, as, you know, some of the presidential hopefuls have reached out to people around me trying to figure out what I'm going to do. [32:23] I anticipate I'll be traveling and working the country again on behalf of the next presidential. [32:29] But we will see. [32:31] Tonight, I won't be there because I'll be broadcasting live. [32:36] So, there are some news outlets that are trying to talk to me. [32:40] So, I fully anticipate possibly doing. [32:42] You can write books. [32:43] You can get paid to be a political pundit. [32:45] Correct. [32:45] Yeah. [32:45] All the things. [32:47] Yeah. [32:47] But I still, I mean, I love this country. [32:49] And I am grateful that God saw fit, that a part of my story would include time in politics in a different way. [33:00] There are so many young people. [33:01] I was at Johnson C. Smith here recently. [33:05] And the students were telling me, I mean, it is mind-blowing when I meet a student who's like, [33:09] I'm a poli-sci major because you made me pay attention to politics. [33:13] And I want to go to law school. [33:14] And I want to do the same thing. [33:17] And I think that that's probably the most beautiful thing that I can kind of leave Congress with. [33:23] Get your money, Jasmine. [33:24] Why not? [33:25] Jasmine Crockett, thank you for joining us this morning. [33:27] Absolutely. [33:28] Travel safe. [33:28] Thank you. [33:29] All right. [33:30] Now you want to tell them again what you're doing tonight one more time on Netflix, please? [33:32] What we're doing. [33:33] What we're doing, yes. [33:34] Yes. [33:34] We are doing the People's Election Night. [33:36] You can sign up to register to view on YouTube at People'sElectionNight.com or to be in person [33:42] if you're in New York. [33:43] We have a ton of amazing guests and partners. [33:47] Y'all shouted out Bakari Sellers. [33:48] We have Native Land Pod with Breakfast Club. [33:51] At Gordon. [33:51] Yes, we have Fat Joe. [33:54] We have Alfonso David, Rashad Robinson, Monique Presley. [34:00] We have a ton of partners. [34:01] Regina Wallace-Jones is going to join us from Illinois, from Juliana Stratton's election watch [34:07] night event, which we know is going to be successful. [34:09] We have April Verrett, who's the international president of SEIU. [34:13] A ton of really amazing guests. [34:15] Maria Teresa Kumar, Polster, Joshua Doss, and Garrison Hayes will be at the results desk. [34:21] We're going to be calling races live. [34:23] You said Ellie Mistel? [34:24] Ellie Mistel is going to be there. [34:26] The great Ed Gordon. [34:27] The legendary Ed Gordon will be working the crowd with Mimi Brown. [34:30] And if they can't be there, how can they watch? [34:34] On YouTube. [34:35] On all of our YouTube channels, we're going to be streaming live. [34:38] So definitely tune in, y'all. [34:39] All right. [34:40] All right. [34:40] Hold up, every day I wake up, wake your ass up, the breakfast club. [34:46] You all finished or you all done?