Iran oil, election meddling, housing bill halt & more — Debate weekly roundup

[0:00] Trump today said that he has lifted sanctions [0:03] on the sale of Iranian oil for the next 60 days. [0:06] And for the first time in decades, [0:09] the United States is allowing oil [0:11] to be imported into this country. [0:13] Iran has reneged on every single treaty [0:15] it's ever signed, by the way. [0:17] We're seeing now that Hezbollah [0:18] is still striking Israel from Lebanon [0:21] because they weren't included in the negotiations. [0:22] This could dismantle tomorrow, [0:24] which would give the United States [0:26] a convenient out from some of these commitments. [0:28] Like you said, a lot of conservatives [0:29] are not comfortable with these concessions. [0:31] But to draw this blanket comparison [0:33] between this and the Obama deal, [0:35] it's just not true because to Jason's point, [0:38] the war context, this is a post-war framework. [0:41] We didn't just negotiate a limited nuclear deal. [0:45] What we did is all of the- [0:46] We didn't negotiate a nuclear deal at all. [0:48] Well, no, that's gonna come down the road. [0:49] But the JCPOA, it literally put out a commission, [0:53] facilities with a sunset clause. [0:55] Because as you recall, the JCPOA, 10 to 15 years, [0:59] that was gonna expire. [1:00] Trump demolished those facilities. [1:01] Okay, that's 15 years. [1:02] So now that's off the table. [1:04] That's 15 years compared to zero nuclear commitments, [1:06] just to be clear. [1:07] That's the actual comparison. [1:08] But let me just play, this is actually interesting. [1:10] Watching these two guys try to make them, [1:12] turn themselves into pretzels to justify this. [1:14] To be fair, I mean, neither of them support the MOU. [1:15] It's better than watching the World Cup. [1:17] To be fair, neither of them support the MOU. [1:18] We're just trying to provide the context. [1:19] So that's probably why this- [1:20] And he's right, the missile stockpiles, gone. [1:23] You know, Obama refused in a government agreement. [1:25] The missile stockpiles are not in a government agreement. [1:26] They are mostly gone. [1:27] But also, okay, I do wanna play this, [1:30] because I think we should just hear it from [1:31] Donald Trump's own mouth, [1:34] what he thinks a good deal actually looks like, listen. [1:37] We've made them a strong country [1:39] from really a very weak country. [1:40] We took the sanctions off, we got nothing for that. [1:42] We've rewarded the world's leading state sponsor of terror [1:46] with $150 billion, [1:50] and we received absolutely nothing in return. [1:53] It's a one-sided transaction [1:56] where we're giving back $150 billion [1:58] to a terrorist state, really the number one terrorist state. [2:02] I would have made a deal not from desperation. [2:04] I would have doubled and tripled up the sanctions, [2:06] and I would have made a much better deal. [2:07] Okay, so just to lay it out- [2:10] Not with the context. [2:11] The missiles are not gone. [2:12] In fact, Trump said that they are entitled [2:14] to missiles for self-defense. [2:16] He's looking at a deal that contemplates, [2:20] first of all, his statement of the facts here [2:22] are not accurate, but even if they were, [2:25] his deal would contemplate twice as much [2:28] in sanctions relief money that goes to Iran. [2:31] Sanctions relief is happening right now. [2:33] Iran has done nothing except what is required [2:36] under current international law, [2:37] which is to open up the Strait of Hormuz. [2:40] So even by Trump's own standards, [2:42] I don't see how this deal measures up. [2:44] Well, not only that, it's just they're not going to be able, [2:48] the conservative position is never going to be able to outrun [2:51] the reason the deal was torn up in the first place. [2:53] It's because of inherent jealousy of Barack Obama. [2:56] So the president is insecure, and he did something [3:00] that actually moved all of this backwards [3:02] because of his own level of insecurity and hatred [3:04] of the president that was before him. [3:07] And that is, we are never going to be able to get up onto that. [3:11] But I think a lot of the criticism right now [3:13] against Donald Trump is driven by the fact [3:15] that the critics hate him as well. [3:17] And so they're unwilling to look at this. [3:19] That's what we end up seeing. [3:21] There's plenty of Republicans who have been very supportive of Trump, [3:25] including people like, for example, Senator Roger Wicker, [3:28] who is half dead, and he woke up from his coma to say this deal sucks. [3:34] I mean, you know, I mean, have you seen him lately? [3:36] You know, people like Lindsey Graham. [3:37] There is nothing that, you know, that Donald Trump does [3:41] that Lindsey Graham doesn't like, and he's been critical of this. [3:44] People in the, you know, in the right-wing blogosphere [3:48] who have been very supportive, and I admire that. [3:50] I admire that they are standing on principle [3:53] and calling a spade a spade. [3:54] I mean, not only, you know, not only are we giving them [3:57] exponentially more money, not only are we lifting sanctions, [4:00] but now Iran knows that they can close the Strait of Hormuz [4:04] and bring us and Iran to our own. [4:06] And also knows that we can strike them militarily, [4:08] which the Obama administration was unwilling to do. [4:10] We did strike them already. [4:12] We did strike them. [4:13] And finally, you know what they know? [4:14] They know that they can survive it. [4:16] Correct. [4:17] Look at, so you're arguing that the economic situation [4:20] right now in Iran is somehow better than it was- [4:21] No, I'm not arguing that it's better. [4:22] No, I'm saying that they can survive, [4:24] but it's because they're fighting a different war. [4:25] But that is a piece of this context that I think matters. [4:27] We're fighting a different war than they are. [4:28] They know that the war here is unpopular. [4:32] They know here the war is unpopular. [4:34] They know that people here are looking at gas prices. [4:36] That's true. [4:37] They are willing- [4:38] And the elections are four months away. [4:39] And the elections are four months away. [4:40] Yep. [4:41] They know all of these things. [4:42] Those are huge leverage points for them, [4:43] so they don't care about their own personal self-direction. [4:46] We do. [4:47] I was just going to say, I think it's worth pointing out, [4:49] all of that understood, that all of these proxies of Iran, [4:52] the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, or Israel, [4:56] and the United States have greatly degraded them. [4:59] And they were attacking U.S. bases, U.S. soldiers, killing them. [5:02] We were at war with Iran for a very long time, Michael. [5:04] In 2018, when Donald Trump reinstated the sanctions on Iran, [5:08] he said, out of his own mouth, he was doing so to deny them the capacity to- [5:13] What does he say? [5:14] Deny them the funds they need to advance its bloody agenda, [5:19] which is basically to fund the very same groups that you just described. [5:23] Now we're allowing them, we're lifting those sanctions that he reinstated onto them. [5:29] What do you think that money is going to go? [5:30] What do you think it's going to do? [5:32] I think you're correct that if it does end up in their coffers, [5:36] in this very limited point, I think if it does go in their coffers, [5:39] that yeah, it's going to fund the world's biggest sponsor of terror, [5:42] as it has historically. [5:43] I don't think this MOU is going to stick. [5:46] I don't think it is. [5:47] So then it's- [5:48] So then what's going to happen? [5:49] I'm not sure what that's next, but the point is- [5:51] But the point is to get to the 60 days and actually get something done. [5:55] You bring up an important point in all of this. [5:58] They've broken every single deal. [5:58] Wait, hold on, you guys are not, just to be clear, [6:00] you guys are not making the same point. [6:01] She's saying the MOU is not going to last. [6:03] You're saying that it will and that we'll get to a deal? [6:05] No, I'm not saying that. [6:06] Okay. [6:06] No, I'm saying the point of getting the MOU on the table [6:09] is so you can start these negotiations. [6:11] It's really what's going to happen in 60 days. [6:13] And I think we should judge that harshly if it's a bad deal. [6:16] So Iran gets up late and- [6:17] Well, then that's what we figure out. [6:19] I mean, that's part of the negotiation. [6:20] I mean, I'm saying what happens, like, really, like, [6:23] let's wish cast into the future. [6:26] What would happen, what is the scenario [6:28] if we don't get a deal in 60 days? [6:31] I could go to a recommendation. [6:32] Are you just going back and bombing? [6:32] My recommendation, the only way to do this is to crush them. [6:36] Okay. [6:36] What does crush them mean? [6:37] What does that mean? [6:38] He already tried to wipe out the civilization, [6:40] so what does crush them mean? [6:41] No, like, he was withholding military force. [6:44] Okay. [6:45] We're always withholding because we don't want to destroy the world. [6:47] So what are you saying crush them? [6:48] I'm not saying he will, and I'm not saying- [6:50] what does crush them mean to you? [6:52] Let her respond. [6:52] I want to know what you mean by that. [6:57] Iran was dangling the one piece of leverage it had, [7:00] which was the Strait of Hormuz, [7:01] because we were letting them do that. [7:03] Okay. [7:04] What do you think it means if we don't let them do that? [7:06] I'm asking you what do you mean when you said- [7:09] you said we should crush them? [7:10] I want to know what that means to you. [7:12] I'm saying, technically, it means escalate military force. [7:15] AND TO WHAT? [7:16] TO WHAT IN? [7:17] TO WHAT IN? [7:18] BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DESTROYED THE MILITARY, SO WHAT IN? [7:20] LET ME JUST ASK YOU THIS, CAROLINE. [7:22] IF YOU THINK TWO MONTHS FROM AN ELECTION. [7:23] I DON'T THINK THIS IS HYPOTATIC. [7:25] I DON'T THINK YOU WILL. [7:26] I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN APPETITE. [7:27] GUYS, HOLD ON A SECOND. [7:28] THIS IS NOT REALLY A SUPER HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION. [7:31] THE MILITARY SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS CONFLICT THEY HAD A LIST OF TARGETS. [7:36] IT WAS, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF TARGETS. [7:38] THEY GOT TO NEARLY THE END OF THAT LIST, AND THEN THEY STOPPED BOMBING. [7:44] THE STRAIGHT OF HORMOOSE, THE OPTIONS ARE, WE DO WHAT WE DID, WHICH IS THE BLOCKADE, [7:50] AND MAYBE TRY TO ESCORT SHIPS, OR WE TRY TO PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND, [7:54] TAKE CARGYLAND TO SECURE IT. [7:55] IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WE WOULD DO? [7:57] I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT. [7:58] I'M SAYING THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO ACTUALLY END THIS. [8:01] LIKE, BECAUSE IT DEALS TO DO WHAT? [8:02] YOU DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE RECOMMENDING. [8:03] PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO TAKE CARGYLAND. [8:04] PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO TAKE CARGYLAND. [8:09] I'M SAYING THERE'S REALLY NO IN BETWEEN. [8:11] I DIDN'T WANT TO GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT. [8:13] FIRST YOU DID SAY YOU WERE RECOMMENDING IT, AND NOW YOU'RE [8:14] SAYING YOU'RE NOT. [8:15] SO WHICH ONE IS IT? [8:16] NO, I'M SAYING IF YOU WANT TO FINALIZE THIS AND BASICALLY [8:19] LET IT COME ON OUT YOUR MOUTH. [8:21] IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BROKER WITH A TERRORIST REGIME ANYMORE, [8:24] THEN YES, YOU HAVE TO APPLY MORE MILITARY FORCE. [8:26] SO YOU ARE SUGGESTING IT. [8:27] I'M SAYING IF THAT'S WHAT THEIR CALCULUS IS. [8:29] IT'S NOT HELPFUL TO SAY, WE GOT TO DO MORE. [8:32] I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY LOOK LIKE? [8:34] IS IT WHAT TRUMP SAID, WHICH IS TAKING OUT THEIR BRIDGES, [8:37] THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, THEIR DESALINATION PLANS, WHICH WOULD [8:39] BE WAR CRIMES. [8:40] OR IS IT PUTTING BOOTS ON THE GROUND? [8:42] BECAUSE WHICH OF THESE BAD SCENARIOS DO YOU WANT? [8:44] LISTEN, I'M TELLING YOU THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE [8:46] THINKING IS INTERNALLY. [8:47] BUT IN THE BEGINNING, AT THE OUTSET OF THIS, THEY WERE [8:50] FLOATING ALL THESE OPTIONS. [8:51] AND I AGREE, IT WASN'T A CLEAR PARTICULATION. [8:53] THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T WANT ANY OPTIONS. [8:55] THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE TO [8:58] THE POINT THAT EVEN IF WE KNOW IT'S A BAD DEAL, WE ARE [9:01] HAPPIER WITH A BAD DEAL THAN WE ARE CONTINUING TO BE IN [9:05] THERE BOMBING AND PUTTING PEOPLE AT RISK. [9:08] BUT LET'S CALL IT A BAD DEAL. [9:10] THE CONTEXT IS NOT WHAT YOU GOT IN IT FOR. [9:12] I MEAN, THEY'RE ALSO ASKING IT. [9:14] THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. [9:15] YOU'RE RIGHT. [9:16] THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. [9:17] WE'VE DEGRADED THEIR MILITARY. [9:18] YES. [9:19] THE NEGATIVE WHERE I SAID THEY'RE STRONGER IS THAT [9:22] NOW WE HAVE ENSHRINED THEM AS THE GATE KEEPERS OF THE [9:24] STRAIGHTS OF HARMOOSE. [9:25] THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN TAKE IT. [9:26] THEY KNOW THAT IT IMPOSES A MAXIMUM PRESSURE ON US AND [9:30] THE REST OF THE WORLD WHENEVER THEY WANT TO DO IT. [9:32] AND THAT WAS NEVER THE CASE. [9:34] UNTIL THEY PROVED IT DURING THIS WAR. [9:36] PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SUGGESTING THAT HE INTERFERED IN [9:39] CALIFORNIA'S ELECTIONS AFTER FALSELY CLAIMING THAT THE [9:42] STATE'S VOTING WAS RIGGED AGAINST GOP GUBERNATORIAL [9:45] CANDIDATE STEVE HILTON. [9:46] I CALLED UP THE VERY POWERFUL, VERY GOOD U.S. [9:49] ATTORNEY IN CALIFORNIA AND I SAID DO ME A FAVOR. [9:52] TAKE A LOOK. [9:53] THEY'RE TRYING TO STEAL THAT ELECTION TOO. [9:55] ABOUT AN HOUR AFTER THE CALL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, [9:58] MR. [10:00] HILTON HAS WON. [10:01] SO HAD I NOT MADE THAT CALL, STEVE HILTON WOULD RIGHT [10:04] NOW BE LOOKING, WATCHING THE ELECTION FROM HOME. [10:08] THERE'S THE GEORGIA CASE WHEN HE CALLS UP AND ASKS FOR [10:11] THE MISSING VOTES. [10:13] BUT WHAT IS HE DOING HERE? [10:15] AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT THE [10:18] PRESIDENT PICKING UP THE PHONE, ASKING THE U.S. [10:20] ATTORNEY TO DIG INTO AN ELECTION THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY WITH [10:24] ZERO EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING GOING WRONG. [10:26] STEVE HILTON SAID HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING GOING [10:29] WRONG EITHER. [10:30] THE PRESIDENT LIKES THESE NARRATIVES. [10:32] BUT THERE IS ONE PART ABOUT HIS FRUSTRATION THAT IS LEGITIMATE. [10:36] CALIFORNIA TAKES TOO LONG TO COUNT THE VOTES. [10:39] AND THEY DO IT DELIBERATELY. [10:40] FIRST OFF, THEY LET YOU MAIL YOUR BALLOT ON ELECTION DAY. [10:43] SO IT CAN COME IN A WEEK AFTERWARD. [10:44] THEN THEY LET YOU HAVE WEEKS TO COME IN AND CURE YOUR BALLOT [10:47] IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH YOUR SIGNATURE. [10:49] IT DOESN'T ENGENDER COMP- NO, IT DOESN'T ENGENDER COMP- [10:51] HOLD ON. [10:52] YOU'RE LAYING OUT A BUNCH OF LEGAL THINGS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. [10:54] THAT'S WHY IT TAKES SO LONG. [10:55] HOLD ON. [10:56] YOU'RE LAYING OUT A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT ARE PERFECTLY LEGAL IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. [11:00] YOU MIGHT FIND THEM ANNOYING. [11:02] FINE. [11:03] BUT THEY ARE LEGAL. [11:04] WHY IS THE PRESIDENT PICKING UP THE PHONE, CALLING THE U.S. ATTORNEY, [11:07] AND BASICALLY ASKING HIM TO MAKE HIS PREFERRED CANDIDATE WIN? [11:11] HE'S ASKING TO INVESTIGATE IF THERE'S ANY FRAUD. [11:14] AND IT IS NOT JUST A FRUSTRATION, IT'S NOT AN ANNOYING THING. [11:17] WHY DOES TRUMP THINK THAT AS A RESULT OF THAT PHONE CALL, [11:21] THE MAGIC RESULT WAS THAT HIS CANDIDATE WENT? [11:24] I CAN'T TELL YOU WHY HE THINKS WHAT HE THINKS, [11:26] BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT MOST VOTERS, REGULAR AMERICANS, [11:29] THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT CALIFORNIA TAKES SO LONG TO COUNT VOTES. [11:32] MOST VOTERS DON'T LIVE IN L.A. [11:34] AND THEY DON'T LIVE IN CALIFORNIA. [11:35] THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. [11:36] THEY DON'T LIVE THERE. [11:37] DO YOU WANT IT FAST OR DO YOU WANT IT ACCURATE? [11:38] WELL, EXACTLY. [11:39] DO YOU WANT IT FAST OR DO YOU WANT IT FAST? [11:40] YOU CAN HAVE IT FAST AND ACCURATE. [11:41] NO, YOU CAN'T. [11:42] NOT IN A STATE WITH 40 MILLION PEOPLE. [11:43] SURE YOU CAN. [11:44] NO. [11:45] WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE. [11:46] TEXAS COUNTS THEIR BALLOTS MUCH FASTER. [11:47] THAT'S GREAT. [11:48] TEXAS IS A STATE THAT GETS TO DECIDE HOW ITS ELECTION WORKS. [11:51] ARE WE STATES RIGHT OR ARE WE NOT? [11:52] AND CALIFORNIA IS A STATE THAT GETS TO ALLOW HOW ITS ELECTION WORKS. [11:56] IT'S NOT ILLEGAL. [11:57] THAT'S NOT AN ILLEGAL THING. [11:58] IT'S JUST THE RULES IN CALIFORNIA. [11:59] IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO COUNT THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALL LEGAL. [12:02] AND THEY'RE BAD RULES THAT ENGENDER A LACK OF CONFIDENCE. [12:03] AND AGAIN, YOU DON'T LIVE THERE. [12:04] SO HERE'S THE THING. [12:05] WE'RE FINE WITH IT. [12:08] WE'RE FINE. [12:09] WE'RE BOTH FROM CALIFORNIA. [12:10] WE'RE FINE. [12:11] WHY DOES IT ACTUALLY ENGENDER A LACK OF CONFIDENCE? [12:13] LIKE STEVE HILTON, LIKE EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE IN CALIFORNIA, REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT, [12:18] THE ELECTION BALLOTS COMING IN. [12:20] HE WON SOME LATE BALLOTS, TOO. [12:22] SURE. [12:23] HE DOES NOT HAVE A LACK OF CONFIDENCE. [12:25] I JUST THINK SAYING THINGS LIKE IT ENGENDERS A LACK OF CONFIDENCE [12:28] CREATES A NARRATIVE AROUND IT. [12:30] SWIFT COUNTING WITH CERTAINTY UPON THE RECEIPT OF BALLOTS ON ELECTION DAY [12:34] EQUATES TO CONFIDENCE IN THE PROCESS. [12:36] NO, IT'S NOT. [12:37] YES, IT DOES. [12:38] IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD. [12:39] THAT'S ALSO WHAT THE DATA SUGGESTS. [12:40] IT IS THE DATA, YES. [12:41] THE POLLING OVERWHELMINGLY SUGGESTS THAT THE LONGER IT TAKES FOR A RESULT, [12:45] THE MORE QUESTIONS PEOPLE HAVE. [12:46] IT'S NOT A FRID. [12:48] JUST A SECOND. [12:49] YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A FRID. [12:50] JUST A SECOND. [12:51] THIS IS NOT A CONVERSATION. [12:54] THIS IS NOT A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT ENGENDERS CONFIDENCE. [12:57] THIS IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ACTUALLY ANY WRONGDOING. [13:01] ANY REASON FOR YOU OR YOU OR THE PRESIDENT TO SAY THAT THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WENT WRONG IN THIS ELECTION. [13:09] DO YOU HAVE EVIDENCE? [13:10] I'M NOT TAKING THAT POSITION. [13:12] I HAVEN'T TAKING THAT POSITION. [13:13] THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. [13:14] I LIKE MAIL IN VOTING. [13:15] WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT VIBES. [13:19] OKAY? [13:20] THE POINT IS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS CLAIMED ELECTION FRAUD IN EVERY ELECTION THAT HE HAS LOST. [13:28] OKAY? [13:29] WHY? [13:30] NOT BECAUSE THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THOSE ELECTIONS, BUT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE LOSING. [13:34] SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WITH THE BIGGEST BULLY PULPIT IN THE WORLD [13:38] TELLS ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY TO NOT TRUST ELECTIONS, WHAT DO YOU THINK DOESN'T ENGENDER CONFIDENCE? [13:45] RIGHT. [13:47] IS IT THAT THEY'RE COUNTING THE BALLOTS OR IS IT BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT WITH HIS MEGAPHONE IS CASTING DOUBT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE TO LOSE? [13:54] WHICH ONE IS IT? [13:55] WHICH ONE ENGENDERS LESS CONFIDENCE? [13:58] I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE THAT. [14:00] IS IT THE ACTUAL WAY THAT THEY COUNT BALLOTS OR IS IT THE PRESIDENT SOWING DOWN? [14:04] NO, IT'S THE WAY THEY COUNT BALLOTS. [14:06] SO YOU MEAN THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT IT'S NOT THE PRESIDENT REPEATEDLY LYING ABOUT ELECTIONS. [14:10] SO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME IF STEVE HILTON WAS THE RUNAWAY WINNER, WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AT ALL. [14:15] THIS IS GOING TO NOT HAPPEN ANYMORE IN ABOUT A WEEK. [14:17] THE SUPREME COURT IS CONSIDERING WATSON VERSUS REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A LAWSUIT THAT WILL STOP STATES FROM ACCEPTING BALLOTS AFTER ELECTION DAY. [14:25] EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY WILL HAVE TO HAVE BALLOTS IN THE DOOR BY THE TIME THE POLLS CLOSE. [14:30] THAT IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARD GETTING A SYSTEM WE CAN COULD CROSS. [14:33] ACTUALLY IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT REPUBLICANS ARE JAMPIONING A STATE, BASICALLY A SUPREME COURT THROWING OUT STATE RULES ON VOTING. [14:40] HERE'S THE THING, EVEN IF THAT, LET'S SAY THAT HAPPENS, THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE OF THE RULES. [14:45] EVERYONE GETS TO ABIDE BY THE RULES. [14:47] GUESS WHAT, THE RULES ARE WHAT THEY ARE TODAY. [14:49] BUT I DO WANT TO ASK YOU AGAIN, DO YOU THINK THAT TRUMP'S REPEATED LIES ABOUT ELECTIONS, [14:55] HAVE ERODED CONFIDENCE IN ELECTIONS IN THIS COUNTRY? [14:58] I THINK THAT TRUMP'S SUSPICIONS ABOUT MAIL BALLOT REFLECT THE SUSPICIONS OF THE VOTERS. [15:02] WHAT ABOUT THE LIES? [15:03] WHAT ABOUT THE LIES, BRAD? [15:04] BUT HE'S ACTUALLY A LION. [15:05] NO, SERIOUSLY. [15:06] I THINK THEY REFLECT SUSPICIONS OF THE VOTERS. [15:07] I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION. [15:09] I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION BECAUSE TRUMP IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT HE JUST DOESN'T LIKE. [15:15] HE IS STRAIGHT-UP LYING ABOUT THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN ELECTIONS. [15:18] IN THE 2020 ELECTION, HE LIED REPEATEDLY ABOUT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT HE CLAIMED HAPPENED IN THAT ELECTION. [15:26] YOU DON'T THINK THOSE LIES HAD ANY IMPACT? [15:28] I AM TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS SEGMENT WAS HERE. [15:31] WE SHOWED A BITE OF THE PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA ELECTION COUNTY PROCESS. [15:35] HE SAID HE SAID HE CALL THE U.S. ATTORNEY. [15:44] SO, TRUMP, AGAIN, IN THIS CALIFORNIA. [15:47] IN THIS CASE, BRAD, TRUMP IS ALSO LYING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN CALIFORNIA. [15:50] AND YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM? [15:52] I DIDN'T HEAR HIM CITE ANY EVIDENCE OF FRAUD IN CALIFORNIA. [15:55] STEVE HILDEN SAYS THERE'S NO EVIDENCE. [15:56] BUT HE LIED BY SAYING, I CAN TELL YOU, HIS CALL DIDN'T CHANGE THE RESULT. [16:01] BUT YOU'RE LOSEING THE PLOT HERE. [16:03] YOU ARE LEAVING THE BLOCK. [16:05] YOU ARE LEAVING THE BLOCK. [16:07] YOU ARE LEAVING THE BLOCK. [16:10] ACTUALLY WHAT AFFECTS THE [16:12] COUNTRY IN NOVEMBER IS THE FACT [16:15] THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED [16:17] STATES LIES ABOUT ELECTIONS. [16:19] I GET IT. [16:20] DEMOCRATS THINK EVERYTHING IS [16:22] ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. [16:23] I DON'T THINK. [16:24] IT'S ABOUT THE BAD. [16:26] LET ME TALK ABOUT HOW TO FIX [16:28] THINGS IN THE COUNTRY. [16:30] LET ME TALK ABOUT HOW TO FIX [16:32] THE BAD. [16:33] TRUMP WENT SEARCHING FOR [16:36] THOUSANDS OF VOTES. [16:37] WAS HE LYING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED [16:39] TO THOSE VOTES? [16:40] I THINK THAT BALLOT WAS [16:41] COUNTED BY PEOPLE WHO I TRUST [16:43] TO COUNT. [16:44] I THINK THE GEORGIA [16:45] RESULT WAS LEGIT. [16:46] SO WAS HE TELLING THE TRUTH [16:47] OR WAS HE LYING? [16:48] I'M NOT GOING TO EVALUATE [16:49] EVERYTHING DONALD TRUMP HAS [16:50] SAID. [16:51] YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO SAY [16:52] WHAT IT IS. [16:53] WE CAN PLAY THIS GAME IF YOU [16:54] WANT. [16:55] BUT THE SUBSTANTIVE QUESTION [16:56] GOING FORWARD IS WHAT DO WE [16:57] DO ABOUT FIXING CONFERENCE [16:58] IN ELECTIONS. [16:59] IT IS ACTUALLY NOT A GAME. [17:04] IT IS ACTUALLY NOT A GAME. [17:05] IT IS ACTUALLY ABOUT WHAT IS [17:07] TRUE AND WHAT IS FALSE. [17:08] WE NEED TO NOT COUNT BALLOTS [17:09] AFTER ELECTION DAY. [17:10] BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT. [17:11] THAT'S NOT THE POINT. [17:12] THE PRESIDENT IS LYING IS [17:13] THE POINT. [17:14] HE WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT [17:15] FORWARD BY NOW. [17:16] BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT HE HAS [17:18] LIED REPEATEDLY. [17:19] IT HAS BEEN PROVEN. [17:20] HE HAS LOST EVERY SINGLE CASE [17:22] WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELECTION [17:24] CLAIMS THAT HE HAS MADE. [17:25] THOSE ARE LIES. [17:27] THAT IS NOT A GAME. [17:28] YOU CAN KEEP LITIGATING [17:29] DONALD TRUMP'S WORD IF YOU WANT. [17:30] IT IS NOT A GAME. [17:31] WE ARE NOT LOSING THE PLOT. [17:32] WE ARE STAYING ON THE PLOT. [17:33] THE PLOT IS. [17:34] THE PLOT IS. [17:35] THE PLOT IS. [17:36] THAT IS THE CALIFORNIA [17:37] COUNTS BALLOTS IN SUCH A WAY [17:38] THAT PEOPLE CAN'T TRUST IT. [17:39] HERE IS THE PLOT. [17:40] IN AMERICA PEOPLE GET TO CAST [17:41] VOTES. [17:42] THOSE VOTES GET TO BE COUNTED [17:43] ACCORDING TO THE JURISDICTIONS [17:44] WHERE THEY LIVE. [17:45] THEY SHOULD SHOW UP IN PERSON [17:46] ON ELECTION DAY. [17:47] IF THERE IS FRAWD, THAT [17:48] FRAUD SHOULD BE PROVEN. [17:49] ANY TIME THAT SOMEBODY HAS A [17:51] CLAIM OF FRAUD, BRING THE [17:53] EVIDENCE. [17:54] WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. [17:55] THE COURTS WILL TAKE A LOOK AT [17:56] IT. [17:57] BUT THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. [17:58] WE SHOULD HAVE A MECHANISM [17:59] THAT HAS AS LITTLE SUBJECTIVITY [18:01] IN IT AS POSSIBLE. [18:02] I'M STILL WAITING FOR PRESIDENT [18:04] TRUMP TO BRING THE EVIDENCE OF [18:05] FRAUD THAT HE CLAIMS IS IN [18:06] CALIFORNIA OR ANYWHERE ELSE [18:07] WHERE HE HAS LOST AN ELECTION. [18:08] AND LET'S SEE IF IT'S ACTUALLY [18:09] REAL OR IF IT CHANGES THE [18:10] RESULT. [18:11] SO FAR, IT HAS NOT. [18:12] CONGRESS PASSED THE LARGEST [18:13] HOUSING AFFORDABILITY BILL IN [18:14] A GENERATION. [18:15] IT GOT RARE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. [18:17] HIS OWN WHITE HOUSE CALLED IT [18:18] HISTORIC AND BRAGGED THAT TRUMP [18:19] HAD DELIVERED ON HIS BUSIN [18:20] BUSINESS. [18:21] THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. [18:22] THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. [18:32] HE SAID THE PROMISE TO HELP [18:33] AMERICAN FAMILIES. [18:34] BUT JUST 24 HOURS LATER, JUST [18:36] HOURS BEFORE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO [18:37] SIGN IT INTO LAW, TRUMP POSTED [18:39] THIS ULTIMATUM, CANCELING THE [18:41] EVENT UNTIL LAWMAKERS PASS THE [18:43] SAVE AMERICA ACT. [18:45] IT'S A SIGNATURE PIECE OF HIS [18:47] AGENDA THAT WOULD SEVERELY [18:49] TIGHTEN VOTER I.D. [18:50] REQUIREMENTS AMONG OTHER THINGS. [18:52] I'M SURE THAT REPUBLICANS WHO [18:53] VOTED FOR IT STILL THINK IT'S [18:54] A GOOD BILL. [18:55] I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THE [18:56] PRESIDENT JUST CARES ABOUT THIS [18:57] OTHER THING MORE THAN HE CARES [18:59] ABOUT THIS AND HE'S USING THESE [19:01] PROCEDURAL LEVERS TO TRY TO GET [19:03] SOME LEVERAGE OVER THE CONGRESS [19:04] ON IT. [19:05] WILL IT WORK? [19:06] I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW [19:07] THAT NECESSARILY MEANS HE'S [19:08] CHANGED HIS MIND ABOUT THE [19:09] POLICY, BUT HE SEES A MOMENT WHERE [19:11] HE CAN USE HIS CONSTITUTIONAL [19:13] PREROGATIVES TO TRY TO GET THEM [19:15] TO DO SOMETHING THAT HERE TO [19:16] FOR, THEY'VE NOT DONE YET. [19:18] AGAIN, WILL THIS GAMBIT WORK? [19:20] PROBABLY A LOW PERCENTAGE [19:21] POINT. [19:22] APPARENTLY HE TOLD LAWMAKERS THAT [19:26] NOBODY CARES ABOUT AFFORDABLE [19:28] HOUSING. [19:29] THE WHITE HOUSE WOULDN'T [19:30] COMMENT ON IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT [19:31] THE REPORTING SAYS. [19:32] I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ODD THAT [19:34] YOU HAVE AN EVENT SET UP TO [19:35] START, THE CHAIRS ARE ALL [19:37] LINED UP, PEOPLE ARE ON THEIR [19:38] WAY, AND THE PRESIDENT, YOU [19:39] KNOW, POSTS THAT WE'RE PULLING [19:40] THIS ENTIRE EVENT DOWN. [19:42] I MEAN, IT'S SO EMBARRASSING, [19:44] AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS [19:45] A HOUSING BILL THAT WE HAVEN'T [19:46] HAD ONE IN 30 YEARS. [19:48] I MEAN, HOUSING COSTS ARE UP [19:50] 54 PERCENT SINCE 2020. [19:52] THIS ACTUALLY COULD HAVE GIVEN [19:53] AMERICANS A MUCH NEEDED [19:56] ALLEVIATION IN THE MARKET. [19:58] AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT [19:59] AFFORDABILITY, THIS COULD HAVE [20:00] BEEN A HUGE WIN AND VICTORY [20:02] LAP, ACTUALLY, FOR THE [20:03] PRESIDENT. [20:04] BUT THIS WAS A TOTAL OWN [20:05] GOAL. [20:06] I MEAN, IT'S THE STRATEGY THAT [20:07] THIS WHITE HOUSE HAS AND THIS [20:08] PRESIDENT HAS. [20:09] I MEAN, IT'S AS CLEAR AS [20:10] MUD. [20:11] IT MAKES NO SENSE. [20:12] WHAT'S CLEAR AS MUD IS [20:13] THAT HE HAD A TANTRUM, [20:14] RIGHT? [20:15] YOU HAVE CHILDREN, YOU HAVE [20:16] CHILDREN, YOU HAVE [20:17] CHILDREN, I DON'T KNOW [20:18] ABOUT YOU GUYS. [20:19] THIS IS A CLASSIC TANTRUM [20:22] WHERE HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT [20:23] THE CONSEQUENCES ARE. [20:24] THERE'S TWO THINGS GOING ON [20:25] HERE. [20:26] ONE IS HE DOES HAVE THIS [20:27] STRANGE FIXATION WITH THE [20:29] SAVE ACT AND NO MATTER HOW [20:30] MANY TIMES THE MAJORITY [20:33] LEADER OF THE SENATE, JOHN [20:34] THOON, THE REPUBLICAN, TELLS [20:36] HIM THE VOTES ARE NOT THERE [20:37] TO PASS IT. [20:38] HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE [20:39] FIXATING ON THIS. [20:40] AND TWO, HE IS MAD. [20:42] HE IS HOT AND MAD AND [20:44] BOTHERED BECAUSE THERE'S [20:46] REPUBLICANS THAT HAVE BEEN [20:47] STANDING UP TO HIM ON ISSUES [20:49] LIKE IRAN. [20:50] THEY HAD THE VOTE YESTERDAY [20:51] TO LIMIT HIS WAR POWERS [20:53] ACT AND I THINK THAT'S GOT [20:54] HIM VERY IRRITATED. [20:56] SO IN RETALIATION, ON A DAY [20:59] WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN [21:00] CELEBRATING THE FACT THAT [21:01] DEMOCRATS ARE HAVING ALL OF [21:02] THIS INFIGHTING, HE PULLS [21:04] THIS STUNT. [21:06] AND YOU KNOW, A FEW WEEKS [21:07] AGO HE SAID HE DIDN'T CARE [21:08] ABOUT THE MIDTERMS. [21:09] I'M BEGINNING TO BELIEVE [21:10] HIM. [21:11] THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD [21:12] FOR REPUBLICANS. [21:13] THE POINT ABOUT THE [21:14] RETALIATION, ANA, IS HE [21:15] HURTS HIMSELF BY THE METHOD [21:17] OF RETALIATION. [21:18] BECAUSE, TO SABRINA'S POINT, [21:20] I MEAN, AFFORDABILITY IS A [21:21] MASSIVE ISSUE. [21:22] THE OTHER THING THAT VOTERS [21:24] ALWAYS COMPLAIN ABOUT IS [21:25] THE PARTY'S NOT BEING ABLE [21:26] TO WORK TOGETHER. [21:27] HERE YOU HAVE A BIPARTISAN [21:29] MEASURE AIMED AT AN [21:30] AFFORDABLE ISSUE, AND HE [21:32] BLOWS THE THING UP OUT OF [21:33] SOME SENSE OF IRRITATION [21:35] THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY [21:36] ARE NOT AS SUBSERVIENT TO [21:38] HIM. [21:39] IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY [21:41] BIPARTISAN. [21:42] LIKE, ALMOST NOTHING [21:45] HAPPENS. [21:46] ALMOST NOTHING OF [21:47] SIGNIFICANCE HAPPENS THAT [21:48] WAY. [21:49] THE VOTE COUNT WAS 85-5 IN [21:51] THE SENATE AND 358-32 IN THE [21:54] HOUSE. [21:55] YOU COULD LITERALLY PUT A [21:56] RESOLUTION ON THE HOUSE [21:57] FLOOR SAYING THAT PUPPIES ARE [21:58] GOOD AND IT WOULDN'T GET THIS [21:59] KIND OF BIPARTISAN. [22:00] I TOTALLY AGREE. [22:01] IF THINGS THAT ARE [22:02] OVERWHELMINGLY BIPARTISAN ARE [22:03] GOOD AND SHOULD PASS, I MEAN, [22:05] VOTER I.D. IS LIKE 80-20 OR [22:07] 90-10, IT SEEMS TO BE [22:08] OVERWHELMINGLY BIPARTISAN. [22:09] OKAY, THEN WHY DOES LISA [22:10] MURKOWSKI SAY THIS ABOUT THE [22:11] SAVE ACT? [22:12] LISTEN. [22:17] IF HE CHOOSES TO HOLD UP HIS [22:19] OWN AGENDA BECAUSE HE WANTS [22:22] ACTION ON THE SAVE ACT, THAT'S [22:25] I GUESS HIS CALL. [22:28] IT IS NOT HELPFUL TO HIM. [22:30] IT'S NOT HELPFUL TO THE [22:31] COUNTRY. [22:32] AND IT'S NOT MOVING THE [22:33] NEEDLE. [22:34] IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE VOTES, [22:36] SIR, YOU DON'T HAVE THE VOTES. [22:37] I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. [22:40] I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT [22:42] JUST A VOTER I.D. BILL. [22:43] IT HAS ALL KINDS OF OTHER [22:44] SILLINESS IN IT. [22:46] THAT'S WHY LISA MURKOWSKI SAYS [22:48] THERE ARE NOT THE VOTES. [22:49] THAT'S WHY JOHN THOON SAYS THERE [22:50] ARE NOT THE VOTES. [22:51] THE SAVE ACT IS NOT GOING [22:53] ANYWHERE. [22:54] SENATOR RICK SCOTT OUT OF [22:56] FLORIDA WAS QUOTED TODAY I [22:58] THINK IN A POLITICAL ARTICLE [22:59] STATING THAT HE WAS GOING TO [23:01] TALK TO THE PRESIDENT AND JUST [23:02] SAY, LOOK, I'VE TALKED TO [23:03] SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES, EVEN [23:04] THOSE THAT HE THOUGHT ONCE [23:05] UPON A TIME WERE PERSUADABLE, [23:07] WHO HAVE SAID, LOOK, I JUST [23:08] DON'T KNOW IF I CAN VOTE FOR [23:09] THIS LEGISLATION. [23:10] NOW, I UNDERSTAND WHY THE [23:11] PRESIDENT WANTS TO PASS. [23:13] I THINK IF YOU WERE TO TAKE A [23:14] POLL AND A SURVEY ON THIS, I [23:16] THINK YOU'D PROBABLY GET A [23:17] PRETTY MIXED BAG. [23:18] BUT I THINK MOST AMERICANS [23:19] GENERALLY WOULD SAY, YEAH, YOU [23:20] GOT TO SHOW AN IDEA IN ORDER TO [23:21] VOTE. [23:22] JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S NOT JUST [23:23] A VOTER ID BILL. [23:24] LET ME FINISH MY POINT. [23:25] LET ME FINISH MY POINT. [23:26] I UNDERSTAND. [23:27] LET ME FINISH MY POINT. [23:28] I UNDERSTAND. [23:29] I UNDERSTAND. [23:30] I UNDERSTAND. [23:31] LET ME FINISH MY POINT, ABBY. [23:32] I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S [23:33] NUANCE TO THE LEGISLATION. [23:34] YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE A POLL [23:35] ON VOTER ID. [23:36] THAT'S NOT GOING TO CUT IT. [23:37] BUT THE POINT IS, THOUGH, WHICH [23:38] I WAS GOING TO MAKE IF YOU [23:39] WOULD HAVE ALLOWED ME TO, I [23:40] UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S [23:41] NUANCE TO THE LEGISLATION. [23:42] I GET THAT. [23:43] THERE'S ALWAYS A NUANCE TO [23:44] LEGISLATIONS. [23:45] THAT SAID, THOUGH, I THINK ON THE [23:47] HOUSING FRONT WITH THE [23:48] OVERREGULATION OF THE MARKET, [23:49] THE PRESIDENT'S INITIAL [23:50] INSTINCT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO [23:52] WITH THE 50-YEAR MORTGAGE IDEA, [23:53] I DIDN'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT IT, [23:54] BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A RIGHT [23:56] DIRECTION, RIGHT, TO TRY TO LOOK [23:57] AT THIS HOUSING ISSUE, A REAL [23:59] CRISIS IN THE COUNTRY FOR THE [24:00] PAST 35, 40 YEARS, TO SAY HOW [24:02] DO WE GET YOUNGER AMERICANS IN [24:04] HOUSES AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE [24:05] WITH INTEREST RATES THAT THEY [24:06] CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD. [24:07] THIS LEGISLATION WAS A PART OF [24:09] THE PROCESS TO START RESTRUCTURING [24:11] AND RECHANGING REGULATIONS TO [24:12] MAKE IT EASIER FOR BUILDERS TO [24:14] BUILD WITHOUT THE OVERBURDEN THAT [24:16] WE HAVE SEEN FOR THE PAST DECADE [24:17] OR TWO NOW. [24:18] SO I THINK THE PRESIDENT WILL [24:19] EVENTUALLY COME AROUND TO THIS. [24:20] I THINK IF YOU'RE IN THE WHITE [24:22] HOUSE, THEY'RE PROBABLY TELLING [24:23] HIM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU [24:24] CAN CAMPAIGN ON, MR. [24:25] PRESIDENT, IT'S A VICTORY FOR [24:26] YOU, IT'S A VICTORY FOR [24:27] REPUBLICANS, AND SO MAYBE AT [24:28] SOME POINT HE COMES TO SAY, [24:29] LOOK, I DON'T HAVE THE VOTES [24:30] FOR THE SAVE ACT, I'LL MOVE ON, [24:32] LET ME CAMPAIGN ON SOMETHING [24:33] THAT GETS PEOPLE MOTIVATED. [24:34] I MEAN, THIS IS GOING TO [24:35] BECOME LAW, RIGHT? [24:36] HE MAY NOT SIGN IT, HE MIGHT [24:39] SIT ON IT, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, [24:41] ONCE THEY SEND IT TO HIM AFTER [24:42] 10 DAYS, IT BECOMES LAW. [24:44] IF THEY DON'T GO ON RECESS. [24:45] AND HE'S NOT GOING TO VETO IT [24:46] BECAUSE IF HE VETOES IT, HE'S [24:47] IN AN EVEN WORSE POSITION [24:48] BECAUSE THEY HAVE A VETO-PROOF [24:50] VOTE THAT THEY CAN OVERTURN [24:51] HIS VETO. [24:52] YEAH, I DON'T THINK HE WOULD [24:53] VETO IT. [24:54] SO WHAT HE TOOK AWAY WAS THE [24:57] OPTIC OF BEING ABLE TO [25:00] CELEBRATE A WIN, TO HAVE ALL OF [25:03] THESE REPUBLICAN LEADERS [25:04] AROUND HIM IN THE HOUSE AND [25:05] THE SENATE AND DO RAH-RAH, [25:07] WE PASS THE HOUSING BILL AND [25:08] WE CARE ABOUT IT. [25:09] WE'RE ADDRESSING AFFORDABILITY. [25:10] THAT IS KIND OF NEGLIGENCE [25:12] AND STUPID. [25:13] YEAH, BUT HOLD ON A SECOND. [25:15] LET ME GET IN THERE JUST [25:16] FOR A SECOND, SHER MICHAEL, [25:17] BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING HERE [25:18] ABOUT THE CONGRESSIONAL [25:19] PROCEDURES AND PRIORITIES [25:21] AND NUANCE, AS YOU SAY. [25:23] THE ARGUMENT FROM THE WHITE HOUSE [25:25] OR FROM THE PRESIDENT IS [25:26] THE SAVE AMERICA ACT [25:27] IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY, [25:29] THEREFORE EVERYTHING [25:30] HAS TO BE HELD FOR THAT. [25:31] THIS IS THE ONLY PRESIDENT [25:35] IN ANY OF OUR LIFETIMES [25:37] WHO HAS SOUGHT TO OVERTURN [25:39] A DEMOCRATIC ELECTION [25:41] BY INCITING A MOB TO DO SO. [25:43] THAT IS THE PERSON [25:45] THAT WE ARE NOW TO BELIEVE [25:47] IS SO EXERCISED [25:49] BY PROTECTING THE INTEGRITY [25:50] OF THE VOTING SYSTEM [25:52] THAT EVERYTHING ELSE [25:53] HAS TO STOP TO CREATE IT. [25:55] THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM [25:56] PLAUSIBLE TO ME. [25:57] YESTERDAY HE WAS SAYING [25:58] HE CALLED THE U.S. ATTORNEY [26:00] TO ASK HIM TO DO HIM A FAVOR [26:02] AND THE REPUBLICAN IN [26:05] CALIFORNIA GET ON THE BALLOT [26:08] FOR NOVEMBER. [26:09] ABOUT THE HOUSING ISSUE, [26:10] WHICH I THINK ANNA WAS [26:11] MAKING A BRILLIANT POINT. [26:12] YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW [26:13] THERE HAS BEEN A BIG [26:14] DISCUSSION IN THE COUNTRY [26:15] IN TERMS OF NATIONAL [26:16] POLITICS, THE 30-PLUS [26:17] SPECIAL ELECTIONS THAT [26:18] DEMOCRATS HAVE WON [26:19] COST OF LIVING. [26:20] IF YOU ARE TO BELIEVE [26:22] SOME OF THE POLLING DATA [26:23] THAT'S OUT THERE, [26:24] INDEPENDENT SWING VOTERS [26:25] APPEAR TO HAVE BELIEVED [26:26] THAT. [26:27] IN MY OPINION, AS A [26:28] STRATEGIST, ANY OPPORTUNITY [26:29] WE CAN HAVE AS A PARTY TO [26:30] CHIP AWAY AT THAT MESSAGE, [26:31] NOW THAT YOU HAVE DEMOCRATS [26:32] ALSO ELECTING SOCIALISTS, I [26:33] THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING [26:34] THAT WE CAN ADD TO THE [26:35] CONTRAST AND THE MARKETING [26:36] AS WE GET CLOSER TO [26:37] MIDTERMS. [26:38] I THINK IT'S A NET GAIN TO [26:39] THE PARTY, WHICH IS WHY I [26:40] THINK AT SOME POINT THE [26:41] PRESIDENT EVENTUALLY COMES [26:42] BACK TO THIS. [26:43] SO YOU AGREE WITH [26:44] SABRINA WHEN SHE SAYS THIS [26:45] IS AN OWN GOAL. [26:46] LIKE THE PRESIDENT HAD A [26:47] WIN IN HIS POCKET. [26:48] HE, YOU KNOW, SNATCHES [26:49] DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF [26:50] VICTORY AND DECIDES TO PUT [26:53] ALL OF HIS POLITICAL CAPITAL [26:55] INTO THIS FICTITIOUS ISSUE [26:57] OF VOTER FRAUD THAT HE'S [26:59] BEEN HARPING ON. [27:00] I WANT TO READ THIS EXCERPT [27:02] FROM MAGGIE HABERMAN AND [27:03] JONATHAN SWAN'S BOOK, REGIME [27:10] CHANGE. [27:11] IT DESCRIBES PERHAPS WHAT'S [27:12] GOING ON HERE. [27:13] THEY SAY, IN HIS SECOND TERM, [27:15] UNLIKE HIS FIRST, HE WAS [27:17] WILLING TO TAKE BREATHTAKING [27:18] RISKS, RISKS THAT COULD THROW [27:20] NOT ONLY HIS PRESIDENCY BUT [27:21] THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE [27:22] ENTIRE WORLD INTO CHAOS AND [27:23] CARNAGE. [27:24] MORE THAN EVER BEFORE AS [27:25] PRESIDENT, HE WAS OPERATING [27:27] ON PURE GUT INSTINCT. [27:29] THIS SEEMS LIKE THE [27:31] TRUMP WORRYING ABOUT TRUMP'S [27:36] LATEST HOBBY HORSE AND [27:37] FORGETTING WHAT THE BEST [27:39] INTEREST OF HIS PARTY IS. [27:41] WELL, I DON'T THINK THIS IS [27:42] JUST HIS INSTINCT. [27:44] I'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY [27:45] LATELY AND TALKED TO A LOT OF [27:47] PEOPLE OUT THERE. [27:48] THIS SAVE AMERICA ACT, IT'S [27:50] NOT JUST HIM THINKING ABOUT [27:52] IT. [27:53] MILLIONS OF REPUBLICANS ACROSS [27:54] THE COUNTRY ARE WORRIED [27:55] ABOUT IT. [27:56] THEY'RE ASKING ABOUT IT. [27:57] THEY'RE ASKING THEIR MEMBERS [27:58] OF CONGRESS ABOUT IT. [27:59] YOU TALK TO A MEMBER OF [28:00] CONGRESS, THEY'LL TELL YOU [28:01] THE NUMBER OF CALLS THEY'RE [28:02] GETTING ON IT. [28:03] I'M SURE HE'S HEARING ABOUT IT. [28:04] SO I THINK I'LL JUST PLAY [28:06] DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ON THE [28:07] STRATEGY PIECE. [28:08] I'M NOT ARGUING THE HOUSING [28:09] BILL IS BAD. [28:10] IN FACT, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO [28:11] CAMPAIGN ON. [28:12] BUT YOU COULD SEE A WORLD WHERE [28:14] IF REPUBLICANS WHO LOVE [28:17] PRESIDENT TRUMP PERCEIVED THAT [28:18] HE WAS GIVING UP ON THIS THING [28:20] THAT THEY ACTUALLY REALLY CARE [28:21] ABOUT, THAT WOULD BE [28:23] POLITICALLY DEPRESSIVE TO THEM [28:24] HEADING INTO A MIDTERM [28:25] WHERE, YOU KNOW, OFF YOUR [28:27] TURNOUT IS ALREADY. [28:28] ISN'T IT POLITICALLY DEPRESSIVE [28:29] THAT HE DIDN'T SIGN? [28:31] WE HAVE TO FACTOR THAT IN. [28:33] I MEAN, JUST TAKING THE POINT [28:35] THAT SCOTT WAS MAKING, ISN'T IT [28:36] POLITICALLY DEPRESSIVE THAT HE [28:38] TOOK WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A [28:40] MASSIVE VICTORY LAP FOR THE [28:42] PARTY AND INSTEAD TOTALLY BLEW [28:43] IT UP, RIPPED IT UP. [28:45] AND I THINK TO WHAT ANNA WAS [28:46] SAYING EARLIER, IT'S LIKE DOES [28:47] HE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE [28:49] MIDTERMS AND THAT KIND OF GOES [28:50] TO WHAT THIS BOOK HAS BEEN [28:51] REPORTING. [28:52] LIKE, HE IS A LAME DUCK [28:54] PRESIDENT, HE'S NOT ON THE [28:55] BALLOT AGAIN. [28:56] I THINK WE HAVE SEEN HIS [28:58] PRIORITIES BE ABOUT [29:00] ENRICHMENT FOR HIMSELF AND [29:01] HIS FAMILIES, FOR HIS FAMILY, [29:03] AND HIS PRIORITIES ARE NOT [29:05] NECESSARILY ON THE MIDTERMS OR [29:06] SUPPORTING REPUBLICANS. [29:07] THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY [29:09] ESTABLISHMENT IS REELING, [29:10] TRYING AND FAILING TO CONTEND [29:12] WITH THE SIZE OF ITS TENT AND [29:14] THE LIMITS OF ITS POWER OVER [29:16] SOCIALISM. [29:17] AFTER ALL OF ZORAN MOBDANI'S [29:19] ENDORSEMENTS WON THEIR PRIMARY [29:21] CHALLENGES, IT PUT THE PARTY [29:22] LEADERSHIP ON NOTICE. [29:24] BUT AS MODERATE DEMOCRATS [29:26] WORRY THE PROGRESSIVE LEFT WILL [29:28] DRAG DOWN OTHER DEMOCRATS, [29:29] THE FACE OF THE MOVEMENT IS [29:31] DEFENDING IT. [29:32] I FEEL LIKE IT'S DEJA VU [29:34] ALL OVER AGAIN. [29:35] THERE WAS SO MUCH FEAR AROUND [29:38] THAT WHEN I WAS ELECTED AND [29:41] NONE OF IT BORE OUT TO BE TRUE. [29:43] VOTERS VOTE FOR WHAT IS [29:45] HAPPENING IN THEIR COMMUNITY [29:47] AND WHAT'S ON THEIR BALLOT. [29:48] AND I THINK THAT ANY CANDIDATE [29:52] OF ANY PARTY THAT'S RUNNING [29:53] THEIR OWN RACE HAS THE [29:54] RESPONSIBILITY TO RUN THEIR [29:56] RACE, SAY WHAT THEY BELIEVE, [29:58] AND BE AS ATTUNED TO THEIR [30:00] COMMUNITIES AND THEIR VOTERS [30:02] AS POSSIBLE. [30:03] WHILE THERE MAY BE [30:04] PERSONALITIES, I THINK WHAT [30:05] THEY WANT TO SEE IS POLICY. [30:07] ARE WE FIGHTING TO GUARANTEE [30:08] HEALTH CARE FOR EVERY AMERICAN? [30:09] ARE WE TRYING TO RAISE WAGES? [30:11] ARE WE TACKLING THESE HUGE [30:14] CORPORATIONS? [30:16] SHE WOULD KNOW. [30:17] SHE UNSEEDED AN INCUMBENT, A [30:19] LONGTIME DEMOCRAT, AND SHE RAN [30:22] AS A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST AS [30:23] WELL. [30:24] SO SHE KNOWS. [30:25] AND DO YOU THINK THAT SHE'S [30:26] RIGHT THAT THIS IS BASICALLY [30:27] DEJA VU? [30:28] IT'S HER RACE BUT TIMES THREE. [30:29] WELL, IT'S NOT THAT SHE'S [30:30] RIGHT. [30:32] SHE'S RIGHT THAT THIS IS [30:33] SIMILAR TO HER RACE. [30:34] BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER HER EVER [30:35] SAYING, YOU KNOW, HORRIBLE [30:36] DISPARAGING THINGS ABOUT THE [30:38] AMERICAN FLAG, YOU KNOW, BEING [30:39] PART OR FOUNDING AN ORGANIZATION [30:41] THAT WANTS TO UNDERMINE THE [30:42] REPUBLIC. [30:43] THIS IS WHAT SOME OF THE [30:44] CANDIDATES THAT ONE RECENTLY [30:45] ARE DOING. [30:46] SO THEY ARE MUCH MORE FURTHER [30:47] TOWARDS THE RADICAL LEFT THAN [30:48] AOC EVER WAS. [30:49] SO, LIKE, AT SOME POINT, SHE'S [30:50] GOING TO HAVE TO CONTEND WITH [30:51] WHAT A LOT OF ESTABLISHMENT [30:55] DEMOCRATS HAVE TO COME TO FACE [30:57] AFTER 10, 20 YEARS. [30:58] THEY EVENTUALLY BECOME THE [30:59] ESTABLISHMENT AND THEY GET [31:00] EATEN BY THIS NEW CADRE. [31:02] LOOK, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE [31:03] DEMOCRATIC PARTY WAS THIS. [31:04] FOR 10 YEARS, FOR 8 YEARS, [31:06] WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY, THE [31:08] PARTY HAD NO MESSAGE OTHER [31:09] THAN ORANGE MAN BAD. [31:10] AND ZORIN MAMDANI, HIS [31:12] ALLIES, HIS COMPATRIOTS, THEY [31:13] FILLED THAT VOID WITH A VERY [31:15] COGENT SERIES OF IDEAS. [31:16] IT'S CALLED SOCIALISM, RIGHT? [31:18] AND THEY FILLED THAT VOID AND [31:20] THIS IS THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE [31:22] MESSAGE TO TRUMP, RIGHT, OUT [31:24] THERE IN THE ETHER. [31:25] AND PEOPLE DID PICK UP WHAT [31:26] THEY'RE PUTTING DOWN. [31:27] MAMDANI IS A VOTE GETTER. [31:28] NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. [31:29] BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY GOOD [31:30] FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY [31:32] BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF [31:33] DEMOCRATS, EVEN LETITIA [31:34] JAMES, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL [31:35] HERE IN NEW YORK, PUSHING [31:37] BACK ON THE SOCIALISTS. [31:39] THEY'RE AFRAID OF THE [31:40] SOCIALISTS BECAUSE THEY SEE [31:41] THE ELECTORAL POSSIBILITY [31:43] WHAT THE REPUBLICANS CAN DO. [31:44] BUT ISN'T HE RIGHT IN THE [31:45] RESPECT THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE [31:47] BEEN COASTING ON TRUMP BAD, [31:49] TRUMP BAD FOR YEARS AND YEARS [31:50] AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND NOW [31:52] THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE [31:53] MESSAGE. [31:54] THEY DON'T LIKE IT. [31:55] SOME OF THE ESTABLISHMENT [31:56] DOESN'T LIKE IT, BUT IT IS A [31:57] REAL MESSAGE. [31:58] I AGREE. [31:59] FULL STOP. [32:00] LIKE, IF THE ESTABLISHMENT [32:01] DEMOCRATIC PARTY WANTS TO [32:02] BEAT OUT THE SOCIALISTS OR THE [32:03] FAR LEFT, PUT FORWARD A [32:04] MESSAGE. [32:05] TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. [32:06] TELL US HOW YOU'RE GOING TO [32:07] MAKE HOUSING CHEAPER, [32:08] MAKE HOUSING CHEAPER AFFORDABLE, [32:09] SOLVE THE AFFORDABILITY CRISIS. [32:11] LIKE, WHERE IS THE VISION? [32:13] IF THE ESTABLISHMENT AND THE OLD [32:14] GUARD WANTED TO WIN, THEY [32:15] SHOULD HAVE BEEN ORGANIZING. [32:16] THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN [32:17] COMMUNICATING. [32:18] THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING [32:19] STUFF. [32:20] I THINK, LIKE, THE FRUSTRATION [32:21] THAT VOTERS HAVE RIGHT NOW [32:22] THAT I THINK IS SO VISCERAL AND [32:23] SO DEEP IS THIS SENSE THAT [32:25] OUR LEADERSHIP IS NOT WELL [32:26] SUITED FOR THE MOMENT. [32:27] THEY HAVE NEITHER THE STOMACH [32:28] NOR THE SKILLS TO FIGHT IN THE [32:29] WAY THAT WE NEED, AND THEY [32:31] HAVE FAILED TO DELIVER ON THE [32:38] CREDIBILITY WITH THE DEMOCRATIC [32:39] BASE. [32:40] THEY NO LONGER REFLECT THE PARTY [32:41] AS IT STANDS WITH VOTERS. [32:43] WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY [32:44] THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING DOWN [32:46] THIS SOCIALISM ROUTE. [32:48] BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO [32:49] WORK IN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. [32:50] IT MIGHT WORK IN NEW YORK CITY [32:51] FOR A WHILE. [32:52] IT DOESN'T NEED TO WORK IN [32:53] THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. [32:54] IF YOU WANT TO WIN THE [32:55] PRESIDENCY, I BELIEVE IT'S [32:56] GOING TO HAVE TO WORK. [32:57] SO PROGRESSIVISM, WHEN I [32:58] HEAR PROGRESSIVISM, I THINK [32:59] SOMETHING A LOT DIFFERENT THAN [33:01] WHEN I HEAR SOCIALISM. [33:02] SO WHEN I HEAR DEMOCRATS SAY [33:03] I'M A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST, [33:05] I'M THINKING WHY ARE YOU SAYING [33:06] THAT? [33:07] THE REPUBLICANS DO A HELL OF A [33:08] JOB OF IDENTIFYING WE'RE [33:09] GOING TO CALL THEM SOCIALISTS. [33:11] SOCIALISTS HATE AMERICA. [33:12] CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING? [33:13] PLEASE. [33:14] NO DISRESPECT, YOU DON'T [33:15] HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, [33:16] BUT HOW OLD ARE YOU? [33:17] I'LL BE 60 IN A COUPLE [33:19] WEEKS. [33:20] GREAT. [33:21] YOU LOOK WONDERFUL. [33:22] BUT I THINK THE TRUTH IS [33:29] REALLY MATTER TO THEM AS MUCH. [33:30] AND PART OF THE REASON WHY, [33:31] LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE [33:32] IN NEW YORK CITY. [33:33] JUST TODAY, Zoran Mamdani [33:35] JUST HAD A RENT FREEZE THAT [33:37] THE RENT CONTROL BOARD [33:38] ESTABLISHED, WHICH HE PROMISED [33:40] HE WAS GOING TO DELIVER. [33:41] HE GOT UNIVERSAL CHILD CARE [33:42] THROUGH IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS [33:43] HE'S BEEN IN OFFICE. [33:44] HE'S GOT CRIME DOWN. [33:46] LET ME FINISH. [33:47] LET ME FINISH. [33:48] LET ME FINISH. [33:49] LET ME FINISH. [33:50] HE'S GOT CRIME DOWN. [33:52] HE'S GOT THE NICS WINNING [33:53] HISTORIC CHAMPIONSHIPS. [33:54] I LIKE THAT. [33:55] HISTORIC CHAMPIONSHIPS. [33:56] AND HE BALANCED THE BUDGET [33:57] ON TOP OF THAT. [33:58] IF THAT'S SOCIALISM, [33:59] THEN SIGN ME UP. [34:00] BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS [34:01] THAT PEOPLE WANT. [34:02] HE'S DELIVERING RESULTS [34:03] FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY. [34:04] SO CAN I JUST... [34:06] CITY HALTED IS A PROTEST [34:07] BY PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS [34:09] AGAINST MOMDANI'S TREATMENT [34:11] OF THE NYPD. [34:12] SO THEY'RE EATING THEMSELVES. [34:13] JUST TO BE CLEAR, [34:15] WHAT'S FASCINATING IS THAT [34:16] LOOK AT THIS POLLING ABOUT, [34:18] LET'S START WITH MOMDANI. [34:19] 48% OF NEW YORKERS APPROVE [34:22] OF HIM. [34:23] JUST 30% DISAPPROVE. [34:25] 23% ARE UNSURE. [34:26] SO HE HAS A NET POSITIVE [34:28] APPROVAL RATING IN THIS CITY [34:29] RIGHT NOW. [34:30] LOOK AT THE NATIONAL PICTURE. [34:32] BERNIE SANDERS IS THE MOST [34:34] POPULAR NEWSMAKER. [34:36] PLUS 11% FAVORABILITY. [34:38] FOLLOWED ONLY BY AOC, [34:41] WHO HAS A NEGATIVE 4 APPROVAL [34:44] RATING. [34:45] AND THEN ALL THESE OTHER... [34:46] LOOK AT DONALD TRUMP. [34:47] HE'S AT LITERALLY THE BOTTOM. [34:48] I DON'T KNOW WHAT MARCO [34:49] RUBIO DID TO THE PUBLIC, [34:50] BUT HE IS AT THE BOTTOM OF [34:51] THE LIST. [34:52] BUT LOOK, MY POINT IS THAT I [34:54] DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LABELS. [34:57] I THINK THAT MAYBE PEOPLE ARE [34:58] TOO OBSESSED WITH THAT IDEA. [35:00] BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE VOTERS [35:03] ARE NOT TAKING THAT SERIOUSLY. [35:05] THEY'RE ALSO NOT TAKING THE REAL [35:07] CONTROVERSIES. [35:08] LIKE, HONESTLY, SOME OF THESE [35:09] CANDIDATES HAVE SAID SOME [35:10] THINGS. [35:11] THEY'VE DELETED TWEETS. [35:12] THEY'VE SAID SOME THINGS THAT [35:13] THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO DEFEND. [35:14] BUT VOTERS ARE JUST IGNORING [35:16] ALL OF THOSE THINGS. [35:17] AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IS, IF [35:19] NOTHING ELSE, THAT IS ACTUALLY [35:20] A DONALD TRUMP LEGACY. [35:22] DONALD TRUMP SET THE TABLE FOR [35:23] THAT KIND OF THING IN OUR [35:24] POLITICS. [35:25] WELL, I THINK DONALD TRUMP [35:26] INHERITED IN... [35:27] I ALWAYS SAID DONALD TRUMP'S [35:28] ELECTION... [35:29] A HAPPY COUNTRY DOES NOT ELECT [35:30] DONALD TRUMP. [35:31] AN ANGRY COUNTRY ELECTS DONALD [35:32] TRUMP. [35:33] AND ARISTOTLE SAID THAT YOU HAVE [35:34] TO HAVE A THRIVING MIDDLE CLASS [35:36] IN A DEMOCRACY BECAUSE IT [35:37] MODERATES THE POLITICS. [35:38] AND WHEN THAT MIDDLE CLASS [35:39] SHRINKS AND WHEN IT [35:40] DISAPPEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO GET [35:41] POLITICAL EXTREMES. [35:42] AND THIS COUNTRY HAS PRODUCED [35:43] DONALD TRUMP TO THE PRESIDENCY. [35:44] AND NOW IT'S PRODUCED MOM [35:45] DONALD TRUMP IN NEW YORK CITY [35:46] AND AOC. [35:47] WE HAVE A COUNTRY WHERE ONE IN [35:49] THREE AMERICANS UNDER 35 LIVE [35:52] WITH THEIR PARENTS. [35:53] THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE FIRST [35:54] TIME HOME BUYER IS 40 YEARS [35:56] OLD. [35:57] THE MAIN MIDDLE CLASS PATHWAY [35:59] TO UPWARD MOBILITY AND A BETTER [36:00] LIFE, COLLEGE, HAS ALL BUT [36:02] COLLAPSED. [36:03] MOST PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE [36:04] THAT GOING TO COLLEGE IS THE [36:05] WAY TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE [36:06] ANYMORE. [36:07] THAT HAS BEEN OUR MAIN ECONOMIC [36:08] HIGHWAY FOR DECADES. [36:09] ALL OF THAT HAS COLLAPSED. [36:10] A CIVILIZED GLOBAL SUPERPOWER [36:11] WOULD LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE [36:12] STATISTICS AND TREAT IT LIKE [36:13] THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY THAT [36:14] IT IS. [36:15] BECAUSE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO [36:16] THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY [36:17] IS. [36:18] THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY THAT [36:19] IT IS. [36:20] BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN [36:21] IS THE UNITED STATES IS GOING [36:22] TO GET REVOLUTION ONE WAY OR [36:23] ANOTHER. [36:24] WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IT GO DOWN [36:26] THE PATH THAT RUSSIA, FRANCE, [36:28] IRAN WENT DOWN WHERE THE [36:30] YOUNG DISENFRANCHISED JUST [36:31] REVOLTED. [36:32] PEOPLE WANT, YOU'RE NOT GOING [36:33] TO BE LEFT-WING POPULISM WITH [36:34] ANYTHING OTHER THAN RIGHT-WING [36:35] POPULISM. [36:36] AMERICA ALREADY SAID THAT'S [36:37] WHAT THEY WANT. [36:38] BUT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION [36:39] HAS TO DOUBLE AND TRIPLE DOWN [36:41] ON ITS RIGHT-WING POPULISM [36:42] POLICIES TO BLUNT THE RIGHTS. [36:43] OTHERWISE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO [36:45] LOOK FOR LEFT-WING SOLUTIONS. [36:46] ALL RIGHT. [36:47] WHAT IS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION [36:48] HAS TO DOUBLE AND TRIPLE DOWN [36:49] ON ITS RIGHT-WING POPULISM [36:50] POLICIES TO BLUNT THE RIGHTS. [36:51] OTHERWISE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO [36:52] LOOK FOR LEFT-WING SOLUTIONS. [36:53] ALL RIGHT.