About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of Hawley EXPOSES Keith Ellison's MN Fraud Alongside Nick Shirley — HSGAC Full Hearing from Senator Josh Hawley, published July 16, 2026. The transcript contains 1,216 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to the witnesses for being here. Mr. Shirley, I just want to start with you. I, for my part, want to say thank you for the terrific work you've done on exposing fraud all across the country, nowhere more so than in the state of Minnesota. You know, it's a..."
[0:00] Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to the witnesses for being here.
[0:03] Mr. Shirley, I just want to start with you. I, for my part, want to say thank you for the
[0:07] terrific work you've done on exposing fraud all across the country, nowhere more so than in the
[0:12] state of Minnesota. You know, it's a funny thing. Not long ago, the Attorney General of the state
[0:16] of Minnesota was sitting right where you're sitting, Keith Ellison. And I had a question
[0:21] or two for him about the fraud in that state. And he said to me that, oh, I mean, it just,
[0:26] nobody could have found it. I mean, he didn't know anything about it. You know, he was completely
[0:32] in the dark until it was all blown open. And there's just nothing that would have tipped him
[0:36] off. I find that interesting because near as I can tell, I mean, you were a 24-year-old
[0:40] independent journalist. You had a camera and a list of public spending records, right?
[0:45] Correct.
[0:45] So how did, if this fraud was so hard to find, how did you manage to find it when none of the
[0:50] public officials in Minnesota could find it?
[0:53] I simply went to the locations of the leering centers and the daycares and asked to enroll
[1:00] a child. And there was no way to enroll a child into any of these daycares. In fact,
[1:04] there were no children to be seen anywhere.
[1:06] So in other words, you asked a few questions and you looked. You actually looked to see if
[1:11] there was fraud.
[1:12] Yes.
[1:12] And you found it wide open, everywhere, rampant.
[1:15] Everywhere.
[1:16] Everywhere.
[1:17] And all, a lot of the Medicaid programs inside of Minnesota from the non-emergence, non-emergence
[1:24] school, uh, vehicles to transportation companies.
[1:26] You know, I find it so interesting because Keith Ellison, when he was attorney general,
[1:30] way back in 2018, 2019, I think we've got a poster of this effect, was actually told and
[1:37] had multiple referrals made to his office about fraud in some of the very programs that you
[1:42] looked at. I mean, these are, this is years ago now. He had official referrals made to
[1:47] him. He said, oh, I just couldn't find any evidence of the fraud. Do you think maybe there's
[1:52] a little bit of corruption at the governmental level in the state of Minnesota? I mean, is
[1:56] that just maybe a possibility? Maybe some of these guys are maybe, maybe on the take,
[2:01] you think? I mean, possible?
[2:02] Yeah, it's not even maybe or possibly, it's a certainty.
[2:05] Yeah, I would say so too. And I can prove it to you. Keith Ellison, that guy, after overlooking
[2:10] $250 million in fraud, he took $10,000 in campaign contributions from the very people
[2:17] who were committing the fraud, who came to see him in his office, asked him to please
[2:22] get state investigators off of their backs, which he did, asked him to shut down the investigations,
[2:29] which he helped with, offered to give him money, which he accepted. I mean, I think that's
[2:34] the answer as to why can't any of these people find the fraud? Because they're getting paid
[2:38] by the fraudsters. And here you are, 24 years old, got a camera, got the public records,
[2:43] asked a few questions, and it's everywhere to be seen.
[2:45] I mean, this kind of corruption, and it's what, sadly, the Democrat Party wants to bring
[2:50] to this country all across America. I don't know why guys like Ellison are not being prosecuted,
[2:54] I have to tell you. And he sat there and lied under oath right where you're sitting now.
[2:57] I asked him why he took this money. He said, oh, I didn't take a dime. He took $10,000. It's on the record.
[3:02] I just want to commend you for what you've done. Mr. O'Keefe, I want to thank you for
[3:06] being here as well. I want to thank you particularly for your investigations, so many of them, but
[3:11] particularly those into anti-Christian bias. I want to ask you just about Trevor Williams,
[3:17] the Washington Nationals. You found that Trevor Williams was shut down. He was muffled. He was gagged
[3:25] by his own team because he had the audacity to say that he didn't think that this poster,
[3:33] I think we got a picture of this, that this outrageous desecration of the Last Supper by
[3:39] this group that calls itself the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, which is an anti-Christian
[3:45] group that actively mocks Catholics and other Christians. He said he didn't like this, and for
[3:49] that reason, if I remember correctly, the Washington Nationals tried to shut him down. Tell us just about
[3:55] what your investigation found. This is involving the Washington Nationals baseball team and civil
[4:01] rights violations and anti-Christian bias, and the Washington Nationals have fired this vice
[4:08] president for his bias against Christians, and it's part of our expose, exposing officials in
[4:15] corporations and in the administrative state, the deep state, breaking the law, pushing back. We have
[4:21] another one coming out inside the Pentagon the next few days with similar themes. Well, I look forward to
[4:26] that. Let me just say this. Were you surprised at all, given your investigation of the Trevor
[4:31] Williams incident, were you surprised at all when the Commissioner of Baseball, just a few weeks ago,
[4:37] threatened to penalize and fine players, two players on the Giants who put Bible verses onto their,
[4:45] one on their cap, I think one on their jersey. The Commissioner of Baseball came out and said,
[4:49] oh, that's against our rules. We're going to fine you. It was absolutely outrageous. Did that surprise you,
[4:54] given the sort of systemic bias, if I could use that phrase that you found? Nothing surprises me.
[4:59] There's a lot of irony and absurdity in reality, but it does not shock me. And I think sunlight,
[5:04] to quote Brandeis, is the best disinfectant. So they might do some things and open,
[5:10] but it's, I think it's possible to shame the devil by capturing these candid remarks behind closed doors,
[5:16] where they really talk about their intent and their motivation. And that caused, that video caused a firestorm.
[5:21] And, you know, to quote Nick Shirley, the video does not film itself. The citizen journalists should get
[5:27] to show up and do the thing. And I think it's more difficult for bureaucrats to do that. So citizen
[5:33] journalists are going to do it. That's great. Well, I'm glad you're doing what you're doing. And I think
[5:36] partly because of what you exposed, the kind of bias you exposed in the Trevor Williams case,
[5:40] the Commissioner of Major League Baseball had to back down. Yes. When we confronted him on this issue and admit,
[5:45] actually the rules permit the players to write these things on their jerseys, if they so choose,
[5:50] they permit the players to forego wearing politically themed jerseys at all. And he
[5:55] committed to me in writing that none of these players will ever be fined or disciplined for
[5:59] expressing their faith. But you and I both know he wouldn't have done that had he not been embarrassed
[6:03] by the facts that you and others brought forward. So thank you for your work. Thank you. Thank you, Mr.
[6:07] Chairman.