Full NBC4 broadcast: Watch 2026 California governor candidates discuss key issues

[0:00] NBC4 and Telemundo 52 present Decision 2026. [0:04] A fight for California's future, the debate for governor. [0:07] Welcome to the beautiful Skirball Cultural Center, [0:16] a place that brings people and communities together. [0:19] Good evening, everyone. I'm Colleen Williams. [0:21] We are broadcasting live across the state. [0:24] The top candidates for governor of California [0:26] have one last televised debate [0:28] to make their pitch to voters before the primary in June. [0:32] Tonight, NBC4 and Telemundo 52 [0:34] in partnership with LMU [0:37] are bringing you the final statewide debate [0:39] to California governors, or voters, actually. [0:42] I'm joined by my colleagues, Conan Nolan, [0:45] from NBC4, our chief political reporter, [0:48] and Telemundo 52 news anchor Enrique Chiavra. [0:51] Que tal, buenas noches a todos. [0:53] In the next hour, we'll be asking the leading candidates [0:55] questions that are going to showcase their differences. [0:58] We're broadcasting and streaming in both English [1:01] y tambien en español. [1:02] We're less than a month away from the election. [1:04] The ballots are in the mail. [1:06] They actually already have arrived. [1:08] The top two finishers face off [1:09] in the November general election, regardless of party. [1:12] These are the highest polling candidates. [1:15] One of them is going to be the next governor. [1:17] Our goal tonight is really to explore the positions [1:20] of all the candidates you see here. [1:22] Our questions will focus on the job [1:24] and the responsibility of the governor. [1:27] The candidates will have 60 seconds [1:29] to respond to questions, 30 seconds for rebuttals. [1:32] Again, that is at the discretion of the moderators here, [1:36] and 30 seconds for follow-ups. [1:38] For our live audience, please hold your applause. [1:42] Question number one goes to you, Conan. [1:43] That's right, Colleen. [1:44] In deference to you, one note here. [1:47] You had a bit of a food fight last night [1:49] on another debate. [1:51] We'd prefer that not happen here. [1:53] We want a competition of ideas. [1:55] Please don't interrupt for the benefit [1:57] of the voters and the viewing public. [1:59] So let's talk about the issue of housing. [2:02] The Department of Finance last week said, [2:05] yes, more people are leaving the state [2:06] than are arriving. [2:07] We know that. [2:09] Employers, unless you're an AI company in San Francisco, [2:12] are having a hard time finding people [2:14] to take jobs in this state [2:15] because they can't afford to live here. [2:18] Everybody has said we need more housing. [2:20] We need to build more housing. [2:22] But I'd like some specifics. [2:23] Mr. Hilton, we'll start with you. [2:25] In our conversation, you said we need more subdivisions [2:28] and to link them by freeways. [2:30] Do I have that right? [2:32] Yes, the California dream was built [2:35] on that idea of owning your own home. [2:37] And right now, we have the highest housing costs [2:40] in the country and the lowest home ownership. [2:42] Young people saying to me all the time, [2:45] I can't imagine making my life in California [2:48] because I'll never be able to own my own home. [2:51] We've got to change direction on housing. [2:52] Yes, we've got to simplify the regulations [2:55] that make it so expensive, [2:57] two or three times more expensive to build housing [2:59] compared to other states. [3:01] Yes, we have to stop the hidden taxes on house building. [3:04] But the big change we need to make, [3:06] which the Democrats on this stage aren't prepared to make, [3:09] is to end this ideology, [3:11] which says the only acceptable form of housing [3:14] is to shove apartment buildings [3:15] into suburban neighborhoods. [3:17] We've stopped building the kind of starter homes [3:20] and single-family homes [3:21] we used to build so well in California [3:24] that made the California dream a reality. [3:27] And that is what I will get back to as governor, [3:29] to restore that California dream of home ownership. [3:32] Thank you, Mr. Steyer. [3:34] So, the biggest problem in California [3:37] is Californians can't afford to live here anymore. [3:39] And the number one part of that is housing. [3:42] And in order to solve our housing problems, [3:45] there are a bunch of things we have to do. [3:47] So, we have to shorten permitting times [3:50] and make them less expensive. [3:51] For sure, everyone on this stage will say that. [3:53] I believe in zoning densely near public transportation. [3:57] And I believe that the way to drive down costs [4:00] per square foot by at least a third [4:01] is by constructing off-site [4:04] and then putting together on-site. [4:06] But there's some other things I'll do [4:07] that no one else on this stage will say. [4:09] I'm going to close a corporate real estate tax loophole [4:12] for $22 billion a year [4:14] that's going to go to the cities and counties. [4:16] And that's going to make them willing [4:18] to permit housing and to make it happen. [4:21] They're standing in the way [4:22] because housing is an unfunded liability for them. [4:25] I'm going to fund it. [4:26] And lastly, our community bank, [4:29] non-profit community bank, [4:30] has financed 17,000 losing housing units. [4:33] The state of California needs to use finance [4:35] to finance low-income units [4:37] and also for down payment assistance. [4:39] Thank you. [4:40] Sheriff Bianco? [4:42] Yes, we certainly can't afford to live here anymore. [4:44] And it's exactly, solutions like that [4:47] are exactly why you can't afford to live here anymore [4:49] and why you will never be able to afford [4:51] to live in California anymore. [4:53] Unfortunately, in the position we are, [4:55] I'll stick up for Steve, [4:56] unless you elect Steve or I, [4:58] because the policies that the rest of the people [5:00] on this stage are proposing to all of you [5:04] is just a repeat of all of the problems [5:07] that got us here in the first place. [5:08] You can't afford a home in California [5:10] because the builders cannot afford to build homes [5:13] because of the excessive regulations in California. [5:16] With me as your governor, [5:17] we will become, for the first time in many decades, [5:21] a building empire in our country. [5:23] We will build more homes [5:24] than we have ever built before [5:26] because we will allow builders to build them. [5:29] We will remove the restrictions [5:31] and the regulations that prevent it right now. [5:33] And those restrictions come from CEQA, [5:35] they come from the Coastal Commission, [5:37] they also even from on the outside in CARB. [5:41] But regulations are the key [5:43] to afford housing in California. [5:45] Secretary Becerra, when we had an interview, [5:47] you said that housing should be based on [5:49] how many people we want to live in California. [5:52] We have to determine what, [5:55] essentially, our population. [5:57] Do I have that right? [5:57] And can you explain in your one minute [5:59] what did you mean by that? [6:01] Sure, Codan. [6:01] We have to make sure we understand [6:03] how many homes we need. [6:04] And you can't understand how many homes you need [6:06] unless you know how many people [6:07] are coming to California. [6:08] I remember when my parents told me the story [6:10] when they got here, [6:11] they had $12 in their pocket. [6:13] Yet they got to live that California dream. [6:15] They purchased a home. [6:16] They were able to give my three sisters and I [6:18] far more than they ever had. [6:20] And that's what we have to give back to, [6:21] is giving every family that opportunity. [6:23] I will make sure that down payment assistance programs [6:26] are expanded under my watch [6:28] because today, California families [6:31] are essentially buying a house. [6:33] They're just buying it for the landlord [6:34] because in their rental payments, [6:36] they're essentially paying the mortgage. [6:37] How about we do this? [6:38] How about we help you get that last cog [6:41] in the process of buying a house, [6:43] the down payment? [6:44] Then when you pay a monthly payment, [6:46] it's not for rent, it's to own the home. [6:48] How about we make sure Wall Street [6:49] isn't the person you're bidding against [6:51] when you're trying to buy that house? [6:52] That is unfair when Wall Street can outbid you. [6:55] Third, how about we streamline regs, [6:58] make CEQA work? [6:59] Because CEQA was meant to help protect communities, [7:02] not to stop housing. [7:03] Thank you, Mr. Secretary. [7:04] Congresswoman Porter? [7:06] Yeah, housing is personal to me. [7:08] It's personal to me because I've spent [7:09] a large part of my career [7:11] working on helping families [7:13] who couldn't afford housing, [7:15] who were the victims of predatory lenders [7:17] or were facing eviction. [7:18] It's also personal to me [7:19] because I'm raising three teenagers here, [7:22] one of whom I think there's a pretty good chance [7:24] he's going to wind up living on my couch [7:25] if we don't figure out [7:27] how to build more affordable housing. [7:29] It's not enough to just build housing [7:31] for those who are here. [7:33] We have to build enough housing [7:35] for California to grow our economy. [7:38] And it's not enough to just build more. [7:39] We have to build it less expensively [7:42] than we are now. [7:44] Building faster is building cheaper. [7:46] If we build faster, [7:47] we can take 10 or 20% off the cost [7:50] of rent and mortgages. [7:51] That is a lot of money back [7:53] in the pockets of California. [7:55] We also need to innovate [7:56] into construction technique, [7:59] architectural design, [8:01] manufacturing, and housing finance. [8:03] When I'm governor, [8:04] Californians will have a 5% down payment [8:06] on their houses, not 20. [8:08] Thank you. [8:09] Mr. Mahan, in answering this as a mayor, [8:12] should the state get involved in zoning? [8:15] It's normally a local municipality [8:17] that decides what housing is built. [8:19] Well, thanks, Conan. [8:20] If cities don't do their job, [8:22] the state absolutely has to intervene [8:23] and hold them accountable. [8:25] I'm running for governor [8:26] to deliver the kinds of results [8:28] I've delivered as mayor [8:29] of our third largest city. [8:30] When we weren't building housing, [8:32] we cut permitting times, [8:33] cut red tape, [8:34] reduced one-time fees, [8:36] and got thousands of homes [8:37] under construction. [8:39] We built interim housing [8:40] and moved thousands of people indoors. [8:41] We've expanded backyard cottages [8:43] for grandparents and kids [8:46] coming back from college. [8:47] We've actually gotten housing built. [8:49] The entire state of California [8:51] needs those kinds of results today [8:54] to create upward mobility [8:55] for our kids and our grandkids. [8:57] When we're on the topic of leadership, [8:59] though, [8:59] I want to be really clear. [9:00] We do not need the leadership [9:03] that MAGA candidates on this stage [9:05] are offering that's divisive. [9:06] We don't need the leadership [9:08] of a billionaire [9:09] who's now against everything [9:10] he made his money in, [9:11] or a career politician [9:13] who has failed again and again [9:15] to deliver results. [9:16] He's trying to remember his lines. [9:18] Right. [9:19] Hilarious. [9:20] Mayor Villaraigosa. [9:23] You know, [9:23] for my mother struggled [9:25] to make ends meet a single mom, [9:27] so for most of my life, [9:28] we rented. [9:29] I bought a home at 25 years old. [9:31] Young families can't do that right now. [9:34] The average down payment [9:35] is $140,000. [9:37] So the first thing we need to do [9:39] is support down payment assistance. [9:42] There's an initiative on the ballot, [9:44] no cost to the taxpayers [9:45] that will build 150,000 homes [9:48] and provide that kind of [9:50] first-time assistance. [9:52] Secondly, streamline permitting. [9:54] But let me remind you all, [9:56] those of you who live in L.A., [9:57] when I was mayor, [9:59] we went from 20,000 units [10:02] of housing downtown to 60,000. [10:04] We transformed downtown. [10:06] Built more housing, [10:07] market rate, [10:08] workforce affordable, [10:10] and homeless housing [10:11] in eight years, [10:13] four years of recession, [10:15] then the 12 years before that. [10:17] The next governor's got [10:18] to roll up their sleeves [10:19] and get the job done. [10:21] I will as the next governor. [10:22] Thank you. [10:23] Next question. [10:24] A lot of people [10:25] in the state of California [10:26] think insurance [10:27] is at a crisis situation. [10:29] California investigation this week [10:30] found State Farm mishandled [10:32] and delayed claims [10:34] from the wildfires. [10:35] Major insurance companies [10:37] have either pulled out [10:38] of the state of California [10:39] or they're stopped writing policies, [10:41] new policies altogether. [10:43] Many people feel [10:44] California's fair plan [10:46] is the insurer of last resort. [10:48] It is expensive [10:49] any way you look at it. [10:51] What would you do [10:51] to help homeowners [10:52] and especially those [10:55] waiting to rebuild [10:56] who are still waiting [10:57] a year later [10:58] and haven't received a check? [10:59] Be specific on this. [11:01] Secretary Becerra, [11:02] we're going to start with you. [11:03] You have one minute. [11:04] So I have called [11:06] for a freeze [11:07] of insurance rates [11:09] for the very reason [11:10] you've pointed out. [11:11] Most Californians [11:12] don't understand [11:13] why they are losing [11:14] their insurance. [11:15] My mom last year [11:16] lost insurance coverage [11:17] for a home she has [11:18] that she had paid for [11:19] for over 30 years. [11:22] I don't believe [11:22] she ever filed a claim [11:23] on that home [11:24] and all of a sudden [11:26] her insurance company [11:27] just dropped her [11:28] without explanation. [11:29] That is not fair. [11:31] There are people [11:31] still in the Palisades [11:32] and Altadena [11:33] who haven't received [11:34] payment. [11:35] They haven't received [11:36] the debt timeline [11:37] of when they're going [11:38] to be paid. [11:38] What specifically [11:39] would you do [11:40] to help those folks? [11:42] And Kathleen, [11:42] I was going to get to that. [11:43] I'm just trying to make sure [11:44] we explain the problem [11:45] because it's real [11:45] for everybody. [11:46] And that's why [11:47] I'm calling for a freeze [11:48] because those companies [11:50] ought to tell us [11:51] we are entitled to know [11:52] why they continue [11:53] to raise our rates, [11:54] why they get out of dodge [11:56] when the going gets tough. [11:57] We have to make sure [11:58] they are there [11:58] when we need them. [12:00] We have to make sure [12:00] we go through that audit [12:01] and I will make sure [12:02] that we base insurance [12:03] on the rates [12:05] based on risk [12:06] and risk based on mitigation [12:07] that's been done [12:08] to reduce your risk. [12:09] Secretary Becerra, [12:10] thank you. [12:11] Ms. Porter. [12:12] Yeah, we can't afford [12:14] to freeze rates [12:15] because what will happen [12:17] is every insurer [12:18] remaining in this state [12:20] will leave. [12:21] And if people [12:22] cannot get insurance, [12:23] they will not build [12:24] more houses, [12:25] they will not build [12:26] green energy projects. [12:27] The solution [12:28] is more insurers [12:29] competing for rates. [12:31] Exactly. [12:31] I'm a consumer [12:32] protection advocate. [12:34] I have spent my life [12:35] taking on corporations [12:36] with or without [12:37] a whiteboard [12:38] who lie, cheat, or steal. [12:40] And there's a lot [12:40] of evidence [12:41] that that is exactly [12:42] what State Farm [12:43] has done here. [12:44] These folks are victims [12:45] and they need someone [12:47] who isn't taking [12:48] corporate contributions [12:49] from the very insurers [12:51] that they claim [12:51] they will hold responsible. [12:53] The solution [12:54] is to bring insurers [12:55] back into the market [12:56] to do the things [12:58] that we've already done here [12:59] in terms of allowing premiums [13:01] to be written to the risk [13:02] at the household level [13:03] and to address [13:05] climate change risk [13:06] and invest in our [13:07] firefighting service. [13:09] Mayor Mahan, [13:10] you have 60 seconds. [13:12] Well, Javier, [13:12] I can tell you [13:13] why the insurance companies [13:15] left and stopped [13:16] writing policies [13:17] and why your plan [13:18] will only make it worse. [13:19] We effectively told them [13:21] they couldn't use [13:22] climate data [13:24] to actually model [13:25] the amount of risk. [13:26] We effectively told them [13:27] they had to lose money [13:28] by writing new policies. [13:30] So the answer is [13:31] bring them back, [13:31] as Katie said, [13:32] have them compete [13:34] to bring down costs. [13:36] Now, if they slow roll [13:37] the payment of claims [13:39] that they need to pay, [13:41] then yes, [13:41] let's sue them [13:42] and hold them accountable. [13:43] But the truth is [13:44] the state of California [13:45] broke the insurance market. [13:47] We need to bring them back, [13:48] have them compete, [13:49] and the state [13:50] and the federal government [13:51] have to take responsibility [13:53] for reducing wildfire risk [13:56] around all of our urban areas [13:57] by clearing brush, [13:59] thinning forests, [14:00] and reducing the risk [14:01] of the catastrophic fires [14:03] that are driving up [14:04] insurance costs. [14:05] It's not rocket science, [14:07] but price caps [14:08] will only make it worse. [14:09] It'll be impossible [14:10] to bring insurance companies [14:11] back to California. [14:12] Mayor, thank you. [14:13] Mayor Villarigosa. [14:15] Mr. Mahan [14:16] and my friend [14:18] to my left here [14:19] are right, everybody. [14:21] The reason why we got here [14:22] is that the only state [14:24] that didn't do [14:24] catastrophic modeling, [14:25] the only state [14:26] that didn't do reinsurance [14:28] and the only state [14:29] that took longer [14:30] than three months [14:31] to pass a rate hike. [14:33] So the entire industry [14:35] left the bigot market. [14:37] So the notion [14:38] that we would freeze [14:39] insurance rates, [14:41] one, the governor [14:43] can't do that. [14:44] Two, it's just [14:45] going to make it worse. [14:46] Now, let me say something [14:47] about the fair plan [14:48] because I'm on it. [14:50] The fair plan is not fair. [14:53] If I lost my house today, [14:54] the fair plan [14:55] wouldn't compensate for me. [14:57] Maybe three bedrooms [14:58] and that's about it. [15:00] At the end of the day, [15:02] we have to make [15:03] the fair plan [15:04] something that works [15:06] for more people [15:07] until we bring [15:08] the market back. [15:10] Once we bring [15:10] the market back, [15:11] of course, [15:11] we're going to hold [15:12] them accountable [15:13] when they're not paying [15:14] the insured appropriately. [15:16] Mr. Mayor, [15:17] thank you. [15:18] Mr. Hilton. [15:19] So just a couple [15:20] of observations [15:20] on what we heard [15:21] in the previous answers. [15:23] I love all the stories [15:24] of the California dream [15:25] for some of my friends [15:26] and colleagues [15:27] on this stage, [15:28] but the California dream [15:29] they're talking about [15:30] happened when you had [15:31] a Republican governor [15:32] in California. [15:34] That's what we need [15:34] to get back to [15:35] to restore it. [15:36] Matt Mahan [15:37] talked about housing. [15:38] His city [15:38] was just rated [15:40] the least affordable [15:41] for housing [15:42] in the world. [15:44] So what that all points to [15:45] do is that actually [15:46] if we want change [15:48] in California [15:48] on all these issues, [15:49] we can't keep doing [15:51] the same thing [15:52] over and over again, [15:53] specifically on insurance. [15:54] The things we haven't heard [15:56] that I would do [15:57] as governor [15:57] is number one, [15:58] enforce the actual regulation [16:00] in the original proposition, [16:02] 103, [16:03] that set up [16:04] our insurance commission [16:05] and the regulations [16:06] around it, [16:07] which says that rate changes [16:08] need to be approved [16:09] in 60 days. [16:10] Now it takes over a year. [16:11] That's one of the reasons [16:12] that they're leaving. [16:13] And the other massive one, [16:14] lawsuits. [16:15] Lawsuits are adding [16:17] sometimes up to $15,000 [16:19] a year [16:20] onto insurance premiums. [16:22] And these Democrats [16:23] won't change it [16:24] because they are funded [16:25] by the trial lawyers. [16:26] Thank you so much. [16:27] Mr. Steyer. [16:27] Can I respond to that? [16:29] So, [16:29] can I go? [16:30] Look, we've had, [16:31] Steve's right that we've had [16:32] the least affordable. [16:35] I'm asking for specifics [16:36] on this. [16:37] We'll get back to you [16:38] in just a moment. [16:38] Mr. Steyer. [16:40] So, [16:41] I think I know as much [16:42] about business [16:42] as anyone on this stage. [16:43] And people are right. [16:44] This is a huge [16:45] home insurance market. [16:47] And we need to [16:48] harden the homes [16:49] and we need to [16:50] reduce the catastrophic risk. [16:51] And everyone's describing [16:52] how we need to make it possible [16:54] for insurance companies [16:55] to come here [16:55] and make money. [16:57] But the truth is [16:59] someone has to stand up [17:00] for Californians [17:01] when people are going after them. [17:02] And as someone [17:03] who's been to Altadena [17:04] and talked to the people there [17:05] and see how they've suffered, [17:07] not just financially, [17:08] but the stress [17:09] that it's put in their lives [17:10] and the fact [17:11] that the insurance companies [17:12] are slow rolling them [17:13] and the fact [17:14] that SoCal Edison [17:16] is slow rolling them [17:17] and the fact [17:18] that FEMA [17:18] is slow rolling them. [17:20] Yeah, [17:20] I absolutely believe [17:21] we should have [17:22] an insurance market [17:23] and as governor, [17:24] I'll make sure [17:24] we reduce catastrophic risk. [17:26] But as governor, [17:27] I'm going to stand up [17:28] for the people of California [17:29] when corporations [17:30] are taking advantage of them. [17:31] And we are seeing that [17:33] right now [17:33] in Altadena [17:34] and Pacific Palisades. [17:36] And it's the governor's job [17:37] to stand up [17:38] and fight [17:38] and make sure [17:38] those people [17:39] pay the claims, [17:40] pay the FEMA, [17:41] and pay the cost [17:42] of having caused the fire [17:43] in the first place. [17:45] Sheriff Bianco. [17:46] Yeah, thank you. [17:46] So the difference [17:47] between me and everyone else [17:49] after I'm your governor [17:50] is I'm not going to lie to you [17:51] about what's causing [17:51] this problem [17:52] in the first place. [17:53] And I have some very dire news [17:55] for all of you. [17:56] The insurance companies [17:57] are not going to come back [17:58] if another Democrat [17:59] is elected, [17:59] especially the ones [18:00] that are on this stage, [18:01] because the reasons [18:02] why they left [18:03] is because of failed [18:04] Democrat policies [18:05] that force them to leave. [18:07] A government [18:07] cannot force a business [18:09] to go into bankruptcy [18:10] and the insurance companies [18:12] repeatedly told [18:14] our legislature [18:14] and our governor [18:15] that our environmental policies [18:17] that prevent [18:18] our fire department [18:19] from creating [18:20] defensible space [18:21] around our homes [18:22] and our properties [18:23] was going to lead [18:24] to multiple, [18:25] multiple cities [18:27] being destroyed. [18:28] And unfortunately, [18:29] we saw it in the Palisades. [18:30] And unfortunately [18:31] for the Palisades victims, [18:33] the insurance companies, [18:35] our governor, [18:35] called their bluff [18:36] and they left the state, [18:38] leaving all of them, [18:39] most of them, [18:40] without insurance. [18:41] We absolutely [18:42] will get rid of [18:43] CEQA and the Coastal Commission. [18:45] The fire department [18:46] will clear defensible space [18:47] and naturally [18:48] the insurance companies [18:49] will come back [18:50] and our rates will go down. [18:52] Mayor Mahan, [18:52] because San Jose was mentioned, [18:55] you have 30 seconds [18:56] to respond. [18:56] Thank you. [18:57] I mean, Steve's right. [18:58] San Jose is expensive. [18:59] It has been since [19:00] before I was born. [19:01] But as a leader [19:03] in an elected office, [19:04] I took ownership for that [19:05] and challenged City Hall [19:07] to do better. [19:08] That's what we need [19:09] to ask of Sacramento. [19:10] We reduced fees, [19:12] we sped up permitting, [19:13] we cut the red tape, [19:14] and we got thousands [19:15] of homes under construction. [19:17] We're not going to fix [19:18] California's housing market [19:19] overnight, [19:20] but we can hold ourselves [19:22] accountable for implementing [19:23] common sense policies [19:24] that bring investment [19:26] in home building [19:27] back to California [19:28] and create room [19:29] for working families [19:31] and younger generations. [19:32] So on a different topic, [19:33] yesterday, [19:34] the vice chair [19:35] of the California Energy [19:36] Commission told the legislature, [19:37] we have four to six weeks [19:38] left of fuel [19:39] if the Iranian war continues. [19:43] Now, [19:43] if a bill comes before you, [19:46] I want to know, [19:47] do you sign it [19:48] or do you veto it? [19:49] And this bill would be [19:50] whether to seek [19:51] an increase in oil production [19:53] in Kern County [19:55] in the Central Valley. [19:57] The governor of this state [19:58] was not a big fan of oil. [19:59] He's actually changed [20:00] his tune a little bit [20:01] on that. [20:02] Yes or no? [20:03] This is the bill. [20:04] Do you sign it [20:04] or do you veto it? [20:05] Mayor Villaraigosa. [20:06] Yes. [20:07] Congressman Porter. [20:08] Can you repeat the question? [20:09] So would you advocate [20:11] for an increase [20:12] in oil production [20:13] in the state? [20:14] Western states point? [20:16] No. [20:16] All right. [20:16] No. [20:17] All right. [20:17] Very good. [20:18] Mr. Sheriff Bianco. [20:19] Absolutely. [20:20] Mr. Hilton. [20:21] We don't need a bill. [20:22] I'll get it done directly [20:23] as governor [20:23] by instructing [20:25] the California Department [20:26] of Geologic [20:27] and Energy Management [20:28] to open up oil production. [20:30] This is the problem [20:31] with Democrats. [20:32] Endless legislation. [20:33] Instead of just [20:34] getting the job done. [20:35] We're going to veto it [20:36] next time. [20:37] Mr. Steyer. [20:38] No. [20:38] All right. [20:39] Mr. Secretary Becerra. [20:42] Versus importing? [20:43] Yes. [20:44] Mayor. [20:45] Yes. [20:46] We also should stop [20:46] pushing all of our [20:47] refining capacity [20:48] out of state [20:49] and importing dirtier oil [20:50] from thousands of miles away. [20:52] It doesn't make sense. [20:53] One other thing. [20:54] Everybody has an opinion [20:55] about this. [20:56] You don't need [20:56] to go into detail. [20:57] It'll cost another [20:59] $30 billion [21:00] to finish [21:01] California high-speed rail [21:02] from Merced [21:03] to Bakersfield. [21:05] We've got the viaduct laid. [21:06] We have overpasses. [21:08] Do you finish it? [21:10] Yes or no? [21:10] Mayor Villaraigosa. [21:11] Yes. [21:12] Congresswoman Porter. [21:14] Yes, [21:14] if you can build it [21:15] faster and cheaper [21:16] than it's been projected. [21:17] Okay. [21:17] Sheriff Bianco. [21:18] No, [21:19] I would rather arrest [21:20] the people that stole our money. [21:21] All right. [21:21] That was the on-brand [21:22] for you doing things [21:23] that are illegal. [21:24] No, [21:24] stop spending taxpayers' money [21:26] on pointless things [21:27] and improve our roads, [21:29] which are the worst [21:30] in the country [21:31] because of Democrat policies. [21:32] Mr. Steyer. [21:33] Yes, [21:34] we need public transportation. [21:36] The slow-speed delivery [21:37] of high-speed rail, [21:38] no, [21:39] but a high-speed delivery [21:40] of high-speed rail, [21:41] yes. [21:41] What does that mean? [21:42] That means we get rid [21:43] of all the bureaucracy [21:45] that has caused [21:46] all this litigation. [21:47] You have to make the call. [21:48] I don't think anyone [21:49] here on money's worth. [21:49] That's either yes or no. [21:50] The bill's on your desk. [21:52] Do you say yes [21:53] or do you veto it? [21:53] Is that to me? [21:55] Yes. [21:56] I said, [21:56] I don't want to do it [21:58] the way it's been done [21:58] because we've over-spent, [21:59] but yes, [22:00] we're going to build [22:01] high-speed rail. [22:02] Yes, [22:03] we're going to build [22:04] high-speed rail. [22:05] Conan, [22:05] I would send it back [22:06] to the legislature [22:07] and say fix CEQA, [22:09] reduce litigation risk, [22:10] let's fix the regulatory [22:11] environment, [22:11] and then I'll sign the bill. [22:13] That's cool. [22:13] Thank you. [22:14] All right, [22:15] let's talk about companies. [22:16] Companies living in California. [22:17] So, [22:18] companies are moving [22:19] their headquarters [22:19] out of California, [22:20] SpaceX, [22:21] Tesla, [22:22] Oracle, [22:23] Hewlett Packard, [22:23] so many companies. [22:24] Those are just a few [22:25] of the corporations [22:26] that are going to [22:27] more tax-friendly states. [22:29] My question to all of you is, [22:31] how can you reduce [22:32] the state's high unemployment rate [22:35] when so many employers [22:36] are leaving the state? [22:37] We're going to start [22:38] with Mr. Mayhem. [22:41] Look, [22:41] the reality is, [22:42] just like with the insurance market, [22:44] the housing market, [22:45] what we're talking about [22:46] is California [22:46] has regulated itself [22:48] to death, [22:49] and much regulation [22:50] makes sense. [22:51] we're protecting workers [22:53] and the environment. [22:54] But when projects get caught up [22:56] in years of litigation [22:57] or getting a permit [22:58] to open a restaurant [22:59] takes a year, [23:01] you kill the ability [23:02] for entrepreneurs [23:03] and small business owners [23:04] to actually create [23:06] a future here. [23:07] So, [23:07] we've got to actually [23:09] fix our underlying regulations [23:12] and make it easier [23:13] to invest [23:13] and start companies. [23:15] In San Jose, [23:16] I've led us to have [23:17] small business growth [23:18] every year I was mayor, [23:20] build thousands of new homes, [23:21] reduce homelessness, [23:23] and become the safest [23:24] big city in the country [23:25] without raising taxes [23:27] and with a balanced budget. [23:30] It is time to demand [23:31] our government [23:31] do better [23:32] before we ask you [23:34] to pay more, [23:35] starting with actually [23:36] auditing all of the spending [23:37] in Sacramento [23:38] where we've increased [23:39] the budget by 75% [23:41] in the last six years. [23:43] Your time is up, [23:44] Mr. Villarigosa. [23:46] Look, [23:47] this is the toughest state [23:49] to do business [23:50] in the United States [23:51] of America. [23:52] You know, [23:52] you heard our Republican [23:54] opponents say [23:55] that Democrats [23:56] aren't willing to call it [23:57] like they see it. [23:59] I've been willing [24:00] to do that. [24:01] I've challenged [24:02] why we send [24:04] so many businesses [24:05] out of this state. [24:06] I've challenged [24:07] why we have [24:08] the highest gas prices, [24:09] the highest utility costs, [24:11] the highest home prices [24:12] in the United States [24:12] of America. [24:13] It's because we're looking [24:15] for perfect. [24:16] Perfect doesn't exist, [24:18] everybody. [24:18] That's what comes [24:19] with a proven problem solver, [24:21] someone who's been [24:22] mayor of Los Angeles, [24:23] speaker of the Assembly. [24:25] The one thing I get, [24:26] we've got to roll up [24:28] our sleeves [24:28] and fix these problems. [24:30] We have the brains [24:31] of AI and tech, [24:33] but the bronze leaving, [24:35] and we've got to look [24:36] in the mirror [24:36] and ask ourselves why. [24:38] The reason is [24:39] over-regulation. [24:40] We can do this, [24:42] protect the environment, [24:44] protect workers, [24:45] and protect business [24:46] at the same time. [24:47] Thank you, [24:47] Mr. Villarragoza. [24:48] Mr. Hilton, [24:49] you're up next. [24:49] So Matt mentioned restaurants. [24:52] I actually did open [24:53] a couple of restaurants, [24:55] but not here, [24:55] back in the day in England [24:56] before we moved here [24:57] with my wife [24:58] and my family in 2012. [24:59] And unbelievably, [25:00] it's actually much harder [25:02] to do it here in California, [25:04] which should be the home [25:05] of enterprise and opportunity, [25:07] the best place in the world [25:09] to do business. [25:11] And the fact is, [25:12] when we talk about [25:12] all those issues, [25:13] there's this famous saying [25:15] that comes to mind. [25:16] The definition of insanity [25:18] is doing the same thing [25:19] over and over again [25:21] and expecting a different result. [25:24] Well, here in California, [25:25] we've been voting Democrat [25:26] over and over [25:28] and over and over again. [25:29] And look at the results. [25:31] The highest unemployment rate [25:33] in the country, [25:33] the highest poverty rates, [25:35] the worst climate for business. [25:36] We cannot expect [25:38] to make changes [25:39] for the better [25:39] if we keep voting Democrat. [25:42] I will exclude Antonio. [25:43] I agree with you, Antonio. [25:44] You definitely have [25:45] a more pragmatic approach [25:48] to this. [25:48] And that's what we need [25:49] from our next governor. [25:50] Thank you, Mr. Hilton. [25:51] A problem-solving, [25:52] pragmatic, [25:53] common-sense approach. [25:54] Thank you, Mr. Hilton. [25:54] Mr. Steyer. [25:55] So, California remains [25:57] the best place [25:58] to start a business [25:59] and build a business. [26:00] But it's also [26:01] the most expensive. [26:01] It's not true. [26:02] It's the most expensive place. [26:04] It's rated 50th [26:05] out of 50 states. [26:06] By Chief Executive Magazine. [26:08] And the person [26:09] on this stage [26:10] who is going after [26:12] those costs [26:13] and driving them down [26:14] for working Californians [26:15] is me. [26:16] And I'm doing it [26:17] by going after [26:17] the special interest [26:19] corporations [26:19] who are driving up [26:21] our costs. [26:21] I'm going after [26:22] electric costs [26:23] that are driven [26:24] by the electric monopolies. [26:26] I'm going after [26:26] gas costs [26:27] that are driven [26:28] by the oil companies. [26:29] I'm going after [26:30] health care costs. [26:31] I'm for single payer. [26:32] And I'm going after [26:33] housing costs. [26:34] What's driving people [26:35] out of California [26:36] is the cost [26:37] of operating here. [26:38] And I'm talking about [26:38] it in terms of people. [26:40] But it absolutely [26:41] is the same thing [26:42] in terms of the companies [26:43] that employ those people [26:44] and have to pay them [26:45] to live here. [26:46] You can tell [26:47] I'm doing this [26:47] because the special interests [26:48] are spending [26:49] tens of millions [26:50] of dollars [26:51] to stop me. [26:52] But I'm the person [26:52] on this stage [26:53] who's willing [26:54] to change California [26:55] and go after [26:56] the corporate [26:56] special interests [26:57] that are driving [26:58] up the costs [26:59] for working people. [27:00] Your time is up. [27:00] Mr. Bianco. [27:03] As long as we have [27:04] the same policies [27:04] that we've had [27:06] for the last two decades, [27:08] more and more businesses [27:09] are going to leave. [27:10] Of course, [27:11] it's the best place [27:12] to be. [27:12] California, of course, [27:13] is the greatest state [27:14] in the world. [27:14] But the taxes here, [27:16] the regulations here, [27:17] are what are causing [27:18] people to leave. [27:19] Yes, we want to live here. [27:20] We just can't. [27:21] We want to own [27:21] a business here. [27:22] We just can't. [27:23] So the people [27:24] that are here [27:25] on this stage [27:26] are going to tell you [27:27] everything you want to hear. [27:29] They've been telling you [27:30] that every time [27:30] they want to get elected [27:31] and nothing ever changes. [27:33] They are not going [27:34] to deliver anything [27:35] because it is their policies [27:37] driving this up. [27:38] I will make California [27:40] the most business friendly [27:41] in the state [27:41] because we will no longer [27:43] punish businesses [27:44] for being in California. [27:46] We will remove [27:47] all of the regulations, [27:49] the regulatory environment [27:50] that increases [27:51] cost of business, [27:52] the PAGA lawsuits [27:54] that are absolutely [27:55] destroying every single business [27:57] simply to raise more money [27:59] for the state of California [28:00] because we have [28:01] a spending problem, [28:02] not a money problem. [28:03] Thank you, Mr. Bianco. [28:04] Mr. Becerra, [28:05] you're up next. [28:06] Let me give a specific example. [28:08] Right now, [28:09] Hollywood is in dire condition [28:11] because every place [28:12] in the world [28:13] wants to have [28:13] their own Hollywood. [28:14] We must fight [28:15] to keep Hollywood [28:16] here in Southern California [28:17] because it creates [28:18] so many great paying jobs. [28:20] And so I will work [28:21] with Hollywood. [28:21] I will work with the industry. [28:23] I will work with the legislature [28:24] to make sure we fight back [28:25] against those [28:26] who are trying to steal [28:27] our industry away from us. [28:29] And that means [28:30] whether it's the tax credit [28:31] or making sure we graduate [28:32] the next generation of workers [28:34] who can work [28:35] in the entertainment industry, [28:36] we will make it so attractive [28:37] that they will not want to leave. [28:39] But we have to make sure [28:40] we're graduating the workforce [28:41] for these industries [28:42] to locate here. [28:43] We have to create [28:44] more public-private partnerships [28:46] so it's not just [28:47] that private business [28:48] that does it on its own, [28:49] but it knows [28:49] it's got a government [28:50] that wants to work with it [28:51] so they can establish [28:52] their business here. [28:53] And we want to make [28:54] communities livable [28:55] where the workforce [28:56] that will come [28:57] can know they can buy a house [28:59] and they can afford [28:59] to live here. [29:00] If we do all those things, [29:02] we'll attract business. [29:03] And then what we have to do [29:04] is balance our budget. [29:05] And as someone [29:06] who has had to balance [29:07] a budget bigger [29:07] than the state [29:08] of California's budget, [29:09] I will do that. [29:09] Thank you, Mr. Becerra. [29:10] Ms. Porter. [29:12] Yeah, I mean, [29:13] billionaire Tom Steyer [29:14] says that California [29:15] is the best place [29:16] to do business. [29:17] And I guess it was for him [29:18] because he became [29:20] a billionaire off it. [29:21] But for the rest [29:22] of California businesses, [29:23] it's been a real struggle. [29:25] He says he's the one doing it, [29:27] but the truth is [29:28] he's the one promising it. [29:30] I've actually brought down costs [29:32] like prescription drug costs [29:33] by passing a law in Congress [29:34] to give people their money back. [29:36] I actually helped write a bill [29:37] and testify for a bill [29:39] that became a lot of crackdown [29:40] on credit card fees. [29:41] If we want employers [29:43] to be able to stay in this state [29:45] and to add workers to this state, [29:47] we have to make it affordable [29:48] for workers to live here. [29:51] Labor is one of the biggest costs [29:52] that businesses face. [29:54] And we have to pay higher wages [29:55] because the cost of living goes up [29:57] and then wages go up. [29:58] This is a terrible cycle. [30:00] So bringing down [30:01] the cost of housing, [30:02] my policies for things [30:03] like free child care [30:04] and a tuition-free UCCSU degree [30:07] will do exactly that. [30:09] It will make it cheaper [30:10] for people to live here [30:11] and businesses will benefit. [30:12] Thank you, Ms. Porter. [30:13] Thank you so much. [30:14] 30 seconds for your reply, Mr. Sayer. [30:16] Look, California is the richest state [30:19] and the richest country in the world. [30:21] You're the richest person [30:22] on this stage. [30:23] California is half the growth [30:25] of the United States of America. [30:28] The issue we have is [30:29] we also have the highest poverty rate [30:31] in the United States of America. [30:33] The issue we have is [30:34] the majority of Californians [30:36] cannot afford to live here. [30:38] After 16 years of Democrat [30:40] one-party rule. [30:41] Why do you think that is true? [30:43] At the end of the month. [30:44] And that's why I'm talking about [30:45] driving down costs [30:47] for working Californians [30:48] and the companies that employ them [30:50] so that we can all succeed. [30:52] Well, you're one of those billionaires [30:53] that's staying in California [30:55] looking for a job here. [30:56] But there are other billionaires [30:58] who are moving on. [30:59] Larry Page and Sergey Brin of Google. [31:02] Mark Zuckerberg, they've left. [31:04] Steven Spielberg's left. [31:05] There are a whole bunch. [31:06] And obviously it's because [31:08] well, they may not say it [31:09] but it's not a coincidence [31:11] that you have on the ballot [31:12] in November a wealth tax [31:13] where they come in [31:14] and first in the nation [31:15] where they tax, you know [31:17] what do your cars look like? [31:18] How much are they worth? [31:19] And what are the watches worth? [31:21] So, yes or no. [31:23] If this is, again [31:24] if it's on your desk as governor [31:26] do you support the wealth tax [31:28] which is on the ballot [31:29] which the governor fears [31:30] is driving billionaires out of the state? [31:33] And according to the Franchise Tax Board [31:35] they pay for about 40% of the income tax. [31:39] Mayor Villaraigosa, yes or no? [31:41] No. [31:42] Congresswoman? [31:43] No. [31:44] What was the question again? [31:45] Sheriff, the wealth tax [31:47] do you support it [31:48] or do you oppose it? [31:49] Absolutely not. [31:51] Mr. Hilton? [31:51] No. [31:52] Mr. Steyer? [31:53] If it's on the ballot, I sign it. [31:55] You sign it. [31:55] Okay. [31:56] Secretary Becerra? [31:57] No. [31:58] Mr. Mahan? [31:59] No, we should charge billionaires [32:00] in other ways. [32:02] Okay. [32:02] I agree with Matt. [32:04] Are you happy with that, Tom? [32:05] How do you want to be charged by Matt? [32:09] There is a longer [32:11] There is a longer discussion here. [32:14] There is a longer discussion. [32:15] It's the wrong policy. [32:15] It's just going to backfire. [32:16] That's for another debate. [32:17] We want to move on. [32:18] We want to get as many topics in here as possible. [32:20] The state has spent tens of billions [32:22] to solve the homeless crisis in this state [32:25] and yet there is a perception [32:28] that the homeless have more rights [32:30] than the people who live in this state. [32:32] Homeless encampments are taking over the streets, [32:34] the sidewalks, parks, and so much more. [32:37] So the question I have for all of you, [32:39] and I'm going to begin with you, Mr. Steyer, [32:41] is is this the new norm? [32:44] Absolutely not. [32:45] I mean, we've got to start with a very important point, [32:48] which is no one gets well on the street. [32:51] That actually being homeless and being on the street, [32:54] only about one in seven of the people [32:56] who become homeless have serious mental health [32:59] or addiction problems, [33:00] but it's so stressful and dangerous [33:02] that virtually everybody succumbs to that stress [33:05] in some major mental health way. [33:08] So what I would say is it's absolutely critical [33:10] to keep people from going on the street. [33:13] That rental assistance is much cheaper [33:15] and more humane than letting someone go on the street. [33:17] That emergency interim housing [33:19] to get people off the street [33:21] into a single room with a key [33:23] with shared dining, laundry facilities [33:26] where you can bring your dog [33:27] is much more compassionate. [33:29] But all of those things lead to the point [33:31] that we don't want our streets to be dangerous. [33:34] We do want our kids to feel safe. [33:37] We do want, I'm for someone [33:38] who wants to build dense housing in the inner city [33:40] and make it vibrant and walkable and fun. [33:42] And it's absolutely critical that people feel safe, [33:45] can walk around. [33:46] Thank you, Mr. Steyer. [33:47] And actually create the environment [33:48] that Californians deserve and want. [33:50] Thank you. Mr. Bianco. [33:52] Yeah, so it was a misstatement in the beginning, [33:55] or not a misstatement, [33:56] but I will tell you that they are definitely not, [33:58] they don't have more rights than anyone else. [34:00] No, but there is a perception. [34:01] They are actually pawns [34:03] in the homeless industrial complex. [34:05] There is absolutely zero, zero intent [34:09] on helping any of them. [34:11] If we did, the billions of dollars [34:13] that were going there, [34:14] the numbers wouldn't get more every single year. [34:17] This is not and has never been about homes. [34:20] This is about drug and alcohol addiction. [34:21] This is about mental illness [34:23] and a combination of both. [34:24] And until we start calling it what it is [34:26] and treating it for what it is, [34:27] we are never going to get out of it. [34:29] And proof of the last 12 years [34:31] is right in front of us. [34:33] It's never going to be better [34:34] until we get them the treatment that they need. [34:37] Stop calling it homes. [34:38] It's mental health, drug addiction, [34:41] and alcohol addiction combined. [34:43] The biggest thing that we need [34:44] is the treatment centers [34:45] that treat at the same time [34:46] mental health conditions [34:48] and drugs and alcohol. [34:49] Putting a solid roof over someone's head [34:52] is no different than a tent. [34:54] And it doesn't mean that you solve the problem. [34:56] Sheriff, thank you. [34:57] Mayor Villaraigosa. [35:00] We spent $24 billion from the state [35:04] and billions more in cities and counties. [35:07] And during that period, homelessness went up. [35:10] Folks, we just got to acknowledge [35:11] we can't just throw money at the problem. [35:13] We have to invest in what works [35:16] and stop, you know, spending on what doesn't. [35:20] What works according to the LAO? [35:22] Temporary housing works. [35:24] The home key program. [35:26] Rental assistance works. [35:28] But we need permanent supportive housing as well [35:31] with services connected to them. [35:34] But the average unit is $850,000 a unit. [35:37] Your kids can't afford that. [35:39] So in San Jose and Los Angeles, [35:42] we're building small homes for $100,000. [35:44] We've got to focus on what works [35:47] and stop throwing money at what doesn't. [35:50] As governor, that's what I'll do. [35:52] Because what we're doing now, just not working. [35:56] More homelessness than in my life, [35:58] I've ever seen in my lifetime. [36:00] It's a state government scam. [36:02] Thank you. [36:03] Secretary Becerra. [36:05] So homelessness is also a mental health crisis. [36:09] And we have to attack that straight on. [36:11] That's why when I was secretary [36:12] of health and human services, [36:13] we established the 9-8-8 program, [36:16] which functions like 9-1-1, [36:18] but for mental health and suicide prevention. [36:20] And it is working. [36:22] We have to start getting people access [36:24] to the treatment that they need. [36:25] But first and foremost, [36:27] when it comes to those on the street, [36:28] we have to have accountability [36:29] by the folks who are getting [36:31] those billions of dollars. [36:32] We have to make sure that we scale [36:34] the projects that work [36:35] to get people off the streets. [36:36] And we eliminate those that are failing. [36:40] But I will tell you this, [36:41] and I'm glad to hear some of my colleagues [36:42] beginning to take up [36:43] what I have said at the beginning. [36:45] My job as governor, [36:46] because I don't control the streets [36:47] of the cities and the counties, [36:49] is to make sure we prevent [36:50] more Californians from becoming homeless. [36:53] Because it costs far more [36:54] to take you off the streets, [36:56] pick you up, [36:57] get you the services, [36:58] and get you the temporary shelter [36:59] than it does to help you [37:00] get past that medical emergency [37:02] or that lost job. [37:03] Let's keep you in your housing. [37:06] Thank you. [37:07] Representative Porter. [37:09] Look, the cause of homelessness [37:11] is the cost of housing. [37:13] It is correct that many people [37:15] who experience long-term [37:17] or chronic street homelessness [37:19] develop substance use [37:20] and mental health issues. [37:22] But a foster kid [37:23] who is aging out of foster care [37:25] with no money [37:26] to put down for an apartment, [37:28] that's not mental health problems. [37:31] That's the cost of living in California. [37:33] We have higher homelessness [37:35] in California [37:35] because our housing costs more [37:37] than virtually anywhere else. [37:41] Homelessness prevention is the key. [37:42] It costs about $6,000 [37:44] to prevent someone [37:46] from becoming homeless. [37:48] That is such a better investment [37:49] and so much more humane [37:51] than allowing people [37:52] to live on the streets. [37:54] We have to stop [37:55] making the problem worse. [37:57] And I think it's appropriate [37:58] always to do oversight [38:01] of where our money went. [38:02] I drive a minivan, [38:03] my license plate is O-V-R-S-I-T-E, [38:06] oversight. [38:07] So we should be asking, [38:08] did we get the bang for our buck? [38:11] We owe that answer [38:12] to California taxpayers [38:13] and I think we have [38:14] accountability that's needed here. [38:16] Ms. Porter, thank you. [38:17] Mayor Mahan, [38:18] talk to us about the city of San Jose [38:20] and what you've done. [38:22] Well, we've created a model [38:23] for the rest of the state. [38:24] I want to be really clear [38:25] that 988 is not going [38:27] to solve our homelessness problem. [38:28] We need to have places [38:29] for people to go. [38:31] So it's all about [38:33] having alternatives. [38:34] San Jose has led the way [38:36] on this issue. [38:37] I have the receipts [38:38] to show for it. [38:39] Homelessness has gone up [38:40] on your watch. [38:41] We have moved [38:42] thousands of people indoors. [38:44] This year for the first time, [38:45] and I hope I'm going to get [38:47] the time to actually [38:48] answer the question, [38:49] for the first time [38:50] in our history, [38:51] a majority of people [38:53] experiencing homelessness [38:53] in San Jose [38:54] will be indoors, [38:56] not outdoors. [38:57] I am sick and tired [38:58] of career politicians' [39:00] complacency on this issue. [39:02] No one should be outside [39:03] in a tent encampment. [39:05] In San Jose, [39:06] we're building interim shelter, [39:08] basic treatment capacity. [39:10] We are moving people indoors. [39:11] When those spaces are available, [39:13] we require people come indoors. [39:16] I was the first Democrat [39:17] leading a major city [39:19] to support Prop 36, [39:20] because if you're repeatedly [39:22] committing crime [39:23] out on our streets [39:24] due to addiction, [39:24] we need to get you [39:26] into treatment [39:27] to save your life [39:28] and to benefit [39:29] the broader community. [39:30] Mayor, [39:31] I was interrupted [39:32] about ten times. [39:33] We let you go. [39:33] We let you go extra time. [39:35] We did. [39:36] Mr. Hilton. [39:38] I was just trying [39:38] to offer a fact check. [39:40] Homelessness actually [39:40] has gone up [39:41] in San Jose. [39:42] It's actually about flat. [39:43] What's important, though, [39:44] is we've moved [39:45] thousands of people indoors, [39:46] 30% of whom have graduated [39:48] to permanent housing. [39:49] The number of people [39:50] dying on our streets [39:51] has gone down. [39:53] It's a solution. [39:54] Mayor, [39:55] Mr. Hilton. [39:55] As you noted, [39:57] he didn't challenge [39:58] the fact that homelessness [40:00] has gone up [40:01] on his watch. [40:02] Now, [40:02] the good news [40:03] in this debate [40:04] is that actually [40:05] there's a lot of agreement [40:06] among many of the candidates [40:08] about the nature [40:08] of the problem [40:09] and how we solve it. [40:10] But we've got to think [40:11] about the fact [40:12] that who's been in charge [40:14] all these years? [40:17] Some of these Democrats [40:18] on the stage here, [40:19] they talk as if [40:19] we're in some parallel universe [40:21] where Democrats [40:22] haven't been running [40:23] this state [40:24] for the last 16 years [40:25] of one-party rule. [40:27] I mean, [40:27] you look at Javier, [40:28] 36 years [40:30] he's been a career [40:31] politician [40:31] for Democrats. [40:33] It's just got to change. [40:35] We need change [40:36] if we're going to make progress. [40:38] And that is what, [40:39] Chad's plan [40:40] is exactly right, [40:41] and I'd just add [40:42] one thing to it, [40:42] which is we need [40:43] to enforce the law [40:45] when it comes [40:46] to homelessness. [40:46] Just as Spencer Pratt [40:48] laid out [40:48] in the mayor's debate [40:49] to you earlier, [40:50] it's illegal [40:51] to live and camp [40:53] on the streets, [40:53] and that's the starting point. [40:55] We can't get people to help. [40:56] I have to give Mr. Becerra [40:57] a chance to respond to that. [41:00] You know, [41:01] I am proud of my service [41:02] as a member of Congress, [41:04] as the Attorney General [41:05] fighting off Donald Trump, [41:07] as the Secretary [41:08] who brought the country [41:10] to the highest rate [41:11] of insurance coverage [41:12] in the nation's history. [41:14] What I would ask is, [41:16] what does a Fox News [41:18] talking head [41:18] know about running government? [41:20] You've never balanced [41:21] a budget the size [41:22] of California, Steve. [41:24] You've never had to worry [41:25] about declaring [41:26] a state of emergency [41:27] the way I had to. [41:28] I'm proud of my service, [41:29] my public service. [41:30] You made private profit. [41:31] I was doing public service. [41:33] Mr. Becerra, [41:33] are you proud [41:34] that you pushed out [41:35] 85,000 migrant children? [41:38] They were, [41:39] according to the New York Times, [41:40] they were maimed, [41:41] they were exploited, [41:43] they were, [41:44] some were even killed. [41:45] You said [41:46] those are MAGA talking points. [41:48] It's a MAGA hoax. [41:50] Tell that [41:50] to the children who died. [41:53] So I'm not sure [41:53] what that had to do [41:54] with homelessness, [41:54] but calmate, Antonio, [41:56] calmate. [41:56] Well, I'll tell you [41:57] what it had to do. [41:58] It's about truth telling. [41:59] Talk about your service [42:00] and how proud you are [42:02] of that service. [42:03] Okay, thank you. [42:04] Thank you, Mr. Hilson. [42:05] I'll give you a moment, [42:06] 30 seconds to respond to this. [42:08] Thank you. [42:09] Wait, wait. [42:09] Tell me what I haven't done. [42:10] We could go on [42:11] about homelessness [42:12] for an hour here. [42:13] Colleen, I thought [42:14] we got 30 seconds [42:15] to respond. [42:15] Yeah, ask him [42:16] what happened [42:16] to the unaccompanied [42:17] I didn't get 30 seconds [42:18] to respond to the attack [42:19] by Mr. Villaragosa, [42:21] so I would like my 30 seconds. [42:22] Okay, I will give you 30 seconds. [42:23] Mr. Hilton, [42:24] you get 30 seconds. [42:25] Okay. [42:25] Then we move on [42:26] to the next topic. [42:27] So Trump lied about that, [42:31] this whole situation [42:32] with the migrant kids. [42:33] Did the New York Times lie? [42:35] Why don't you let me finish, Antonio? [42:37] Okay. [42:38] Donald Trump campaigned [42:39] against our Democratic candidate, [42:41] Kathleen, I mean, [42:43] Kamala Harris, [42:44] Vice President, [42:45] in 2024, [42:46] using these lies. [42:47] In 2026, [42:49] now you have candidates [42:49] like Antonio [42:50] and Tom Steyer [42:51] using these very lies. [42:53] They were lies [42:53] when Trump said them [42:54] two years ago. [42:55] They're lies today. [42:56] We protected kids. [42:58] We did not let them be abused. [42:59] Those were the employers, [43:00] but stop lying. [43:01] The facts are the facts. [43:03] Okay. [43:03] There were congressional events. [43:04] 26 Democrats condemned him. [43:06] They said it was outrageous [43:08] that he pushed kids out. [43:10] What was outrageous [43:11] was the exploitation [43:11] by the employers? [43:13] Not the care that they got. [43:14] Mr. Pierre Rosa, [43:15] invented the assembly line. [43:17] Put him on an assembly line. [43:19] Get him out of here. [43:19] Mr. Pierre Rosa, [43:21] that's what you said. [43:22] I'm only going to ask you [43:23] one more time. [43:23] Please, please. [43:25] We have a lot of topics [43:26] here this evening. [43:27] I laid out the ground rules. [43:28] You had a chance to respond. [43:30] Mr. Hilton, [43:30] you get 30 seconds. [43:31] Then we move on. [43:33] Mr. Hilton. [43:34] Thank you very much. [43:35] I tell you what I haven't done, [43:36] Javier, [43:37] is break state and federal law [43:39] by taking money [43:40] from a campaign account [43:42] and funneling it [43:43] to a senior aide, [43:45] breaking those laws [43:46] and then denying it. [43:47] I tell you what I haven't done, [43:49] which we revealed today, [43:51] which is to take [43:51] a taxpayer-funded organization [43:54] from your money, [43:55] your taxes, [43:56] are paying illegal immigrants [43:58] to campaign [43:59] for Javier Becerra [44:01] through an organization [44:02] called Churla. [44:03] And he's accepted [44:04] their endorsement. [44:06] It is completely outrageous. [44:09] So, Colleen, [44:10] once again, [44:10] once again. [44:11] No, we have to move on. [44:13] Wait, time out. [44:14] The next subject, [44:14] the next topic [44:15] is sanctuary. [44:16] I think it's very important. [44:18] Listening to the audience here, [44:20] listening to the group, [44:21] Enrique has a question. [44:23] Please. [44:23] And, Colleen, [44:24] so long as I understand, [44:25] if a candidate is attacked, [44:27] No, it wasn't. [44:27] It was up to them. [44:28] And she said, [44:29] no, let's move on. [44:30] We'll get back to you [44:30] in a second. [44:31] We've got to move on. [44:32] This is really important. [44:33] Okay, so the state... [44:33] Again, at the discretion [44:34] of the moderators here, [44:36] I've given everybody [44:37] a chance to respond. [44:38] Please stop with the attacks. [44:40] We do the voters [44:42] a disservice [44:42] when we attack like that. [44:44] I agree. [44:44] We are trying to get [44:46] more information [44:47] about the topics at hand. [44:49] So, sanctuary. [44:50] The state sanctuaries law, [44:51] as we know, [44:52] that restricts local authorities [44:53] from cooperating [44:54] with federal agents, [44:55] federal immigration officers. [44:57] My question goes to Mr. Bianco. [44:59] What is one thing, [45:00] Mr. Bianco, [45:01] you would replace or change [45:02] about the current [45:03] sanctuary law in California? [45:05] One aspect, just one. [45:07] I would eliminate [45:08] sanctuary state. [45:09] Sanctuary state [45:10] is what is creating [45:11] the issue that we have [45:12] in California. [45:13] It didn't exist before 2017. [45:17] Immigration, [45:18] it is the responsibility [45:19] of the federal government [45:20] to enforce immigration laws. [45:21] And prior to 2017, [45:23] they would come into our jails [45:25] and they would come [45:25] into our prisons [45:26] and they would remove [45:27] those criminals [45:28] who are victimizing us [45:29] and they would deport them. [45:30] That ended with [45:32] sanctuary state law, SB54. [45:35] They forced us [45:37] to release those people [45:39] back into our communities [45:40] and then ICE has to go [45:42] into the communities [45:43] to get them [45:43] instead of in the safety [45:45] and security of the jail. [45:46] Mr. Bianco, [45:47] so if county jails [45:48] can communicate with ICE [45:49] if the person in question [45:50] is a convicted felon [45:52] of a criminal, [45:53] of a violent crime. [45:54] Okay. [45:54] So what would be [45:55] the difference then [45:56] if you want to change something? [45:57] There's a huge difference [45:58] because I have someone [46:00] in my jail right now [46:01] that if the attorney general [46:02] wants to arrest me [46:03] when I turn him over, [46:05] he's convicted of a felony. [46:08] But the three prior convictions [46:09] for DUI, [46:11] he was released from jail, [46:12] he was deported [46:13] on two of them [46:14] back into the country [46:15] and then he killed [46:17] a 14-year-old boy [46:18] with another DUI. [46:19] So we have to wait [46:20] until somebody dies [46:22] before we deport criminals [46:23] who are in our jail [46:24] and those people [46:25] who are released [46:26] from the jail, [46:27] immigration enforcement officials [46:29] have to go into [46:30] the communities [46:31] to get them. [46:33] And that is why [46:33] we see what we see [46:34] on the streets. [46:34] Really quick, [46:36] 30 seconds. [46:36] He said that yesterday. [46:39] It's just not true. [46:40] 12,000 undocumented [46:44] violent criminals [46:46] Tell that to the family [46:47] that lost their child. [46:49] Look, I know you're [46:50] an oath keeper [46:50] and you feel like [46:51] you could do [46:52] whatever you want, [46:53] but let me be clear. [46:54] Let me finish my thing. [46:56] May I have my time back? [46:57] Yeah, yeah. [46:58] Okay, yes. [46:58] We're going to give it to you. [46:59] Continue. [46:59] Continue. [47:00] In point of fact, [47:01] you keep on saying [47:02] that they don't turn over [47:04] violent criminals. [47:05] No, I didn't. [47:05] That's just not true. [47:06] No, I didn't. [47:07] They do. [47:07] They've turned over 12,000 [47:09] since 2019. [47:10] It obviously wasn't enough. [47:12] Well, Mr. Villaragosa, [47:13] thank you. [47:13] Ms. Porter, [47:14] you want to say something [47:14] about this issue? [47:16] Yeah, I mean, [47:17] I think we ought to enforce [47:18] the existing sanctuary laws [47:20] everywhere [47:21] so we don't have [47:22] crazy cowboys [47:23] taking the law [47:24] into their own hands. [47:25] Tell that to a crazy mother [47:27] who lost her child. [47:29] Sir, I don't need [47:29] any lectures from you [47:30] about being a mother. [47:32] Of course. [47:32] You might. [47:34] Okay. [47:35] So, [47:36] again, [47:38] please. [47:39] All you have done [47:40] this evening [47:41] is shout past me [47:42] and not given me [47:44] a chance to respond. [47:45] That was obviously [47:46] a scripted answer [47:47] that didn't fit, [47:48] but go ahead. [47:49] But please, [47:49] I'm sorry, [47:50] everybody. [47:52] No, I'm not going [47:53] to be lectured [47:56] because I have not [47:56] interrupted a single person. [47:58] I understand, [47:58] Kairoswoman, [47:59] you have the floor. [48:01] So, [48:01] I think it's important [48:02] to recognize [48:03] that our sanctuary laws [48:05] are only as good [48:06] as the enforcement [48:07] of them. [48:08] We have entities [48:08] right now, [48:10] including local sheriffs, [48:12] including state agencies [48:14] in a lot of our counties [48:15] that are violating [48:16] sanctuary law. [48:18] He says he wants [48:18] to enforce the sanctuary law. [48:21] He wants to do away [48:21] with the sanctuary law policy. [48:23] That's because [48:24] he doesn't want [48:24] to have to follow it. [48:26] Every Californian [48:27] deserves the protection [48:28] of their governor. [48:30] Every Californian [48:32] deserves the protection [48:34] of their governor. [48:35] Keep talking over me. [48:36] You know, Sheriff, [48:37] you had an opportunity [48:38] to speak. [48:39] Ms. Porter, [48:40] you have... [48:40] I respect you, [48:41] but I don't need [48:42] your help being defended. [48:43] Thank you. [48:44] Okay. [48:44] You know what, Conan? [48:45] We have a final question. [48:46] Right, so... [48:47] Can we all address this? [48:49] This is a key question. [48:50] Do you have a final question? [48:52] Very quickly, [48:53] the Democrats [48:54] on this panel, [48:55] for the most part, [48:56] support the sanctuary [48:57] state law. [48:58] Is that in agreement, [48:59] Mr. Secretary? [49:00] It would be... [49:02] Mr. Mahan, Mayor... [49:03] Yeah, I'd like to say... [49:04] But I'd like to be able [49:05] to respond to the accusations [49:06] that were made... [49:07] I'd like to just answer [49:08] the question. [49:09] I'd like to answer [49:10] the question, too. [49:10] No, please, [49:11] let me at least answer... [49:12] You all said I was going [49:14] to get to answer [49:15] that question. [49:15] I'm your enemy here. [49:16] Okay, may I then answer [49:18] the question? [49:18] 30 seconds. [49:18] We're going to start [49:19] with Mr. Becerra. [49:20] 30 seconds. [49:20] Go ahead. [49:21] First, SB54, [49:23] the Values Act, [49:24] sanctuary law, [49:24] I defended it against [49:25] Donald Trump's attacks [49:26] the first time [49:27] he was president, [49:28] and I beat him. [49:29] That's why we still [49:29] have that law in place. [49:31] I stopped ICE [49:31] from trying to force [49:33] our law enforcement [49:33] to do ICE raids [49:35] because I beat [49:35] Donald Trump in court. [49:37] As governor, [49:38] I will investigate ICE, [49:40] we will prosecute ICE, [49:41] we will convict ICE [49:44] if they have violated [49:45] the law. [49:45] And what I will tell [49:46] Steve and Chad [49:48] is that Chirla [49:49] is one of the biggest [49:50] defenders of immigrant [49:51] rights in this nation. [49:53] They deserve respect. [49:55] I agree. [49:56] So, Enrique, [49:58] you're correct, [49:59] and as the mayor [50:01] of the safest big city [50:02] in the country, [50:04] I can affirm [50:05] that our sanctuary laws [50:07] do not provide [50:08] sanctuary to criminals. [50:10] What they do [50:11] is they build trust [50:12] between law enforcement [50:13] officers and the [50:14] community they serve. [50:16] We don't ask [50:16] our police officers [50:17] to check your tax returns [50:18] or your immigration papers [50:20] because we want you [50:21] to report... [50:21] We never did. [50:22] Let me finish. [50:23] We want you [50:24] to report crime, [50:25] serve as a witness, [50:27] provide evidence, [50:28] but we absolutely [50:29] have to enforce [50:30] our laws [50:31] and keep people safe, [50:33] and we can do both. [50:35] I do want to say, [50:36] though, [50:36] Antonio is absolutely [50:38] right about the [50:39] secretary's failure [50:40] on the immigration [50:42] issue. [50:43] There is a direct line... [50:44] Matt, that's an absolute line. [50:45] ...there is a direct line [50:46] between his failed leadership [50:48] and Donald Trump [50:49] being in the White House. [50:51] So, once again, [50:52] an attack. [50:53] Do I get to respond [50:54] to the false attack? [50:55] You have 30 seconds. [50:56] Thank you. [50:56] Really quick. [50:57] 30 seconds. [50:58] Those were Trump lies [50:59] in 2024, [51:00] and now that you're [51:01] peddling them, Matt, [51:02] they're still lies. [51:03] Lies don't become facts [51:04] because you're a Democrat [51:06] and Trump was a Republican. [51:07] You're just peddling [51:08] a Republican's lies. [51:08] I don't think Democratic [51:10] Congress members like AOC [51:11] or NSU were lying. [51:13] If I could just finish [51:15] with my time, [51:16] we stopped what [51:17] Donald Trump was doing. [51:18] Remember those days? [51:20] Trump was putting kids [51:21] in cages. [51:22] Donald Trump was separating [51:23] children from their parents. [51:25] We stopped that. [51:26] We took care of them. [51:27] We protected those kids. [51:29] We didn't do what Trump did [51:30] and we're not using lies. [51:31] Thank you, Mr. President. [51:31] When it's 10,000 children [51:33] to homes without children [51:34] in background... [51:34] Let me say this. [51:37] ICE is a criminal organization. [51:38] They're coming into our state. [51:40] They're terrorizing people. [51:42] They're racially profiling people. [51:43] And they're harming people [51:45] and committing violence [51:45] against them. [51:47] I'm in favor of abolishing ICE. [51:48] But along the way, [51:50] I did push for the [51:51] sanctuary state law, [51:52] which I absolutely believe in. [51:54] But more than that, [51:55] we should be prosecuting [51:56] ICE agents for racial profiling. [51:58] It's illegal in the state [51:59] of California. [52:01] We should be prosecuting them [52:02] for violence against Californians. [52:04] It's illegal. [52:05] And we should go up the chain [52:06] to the people who ask them [52:08] to commit violence [52:09] including Stephen Miller. [52:10] The truth is, [52:11] we should be investigating [52:12] their detention centers [52:13] that they will not show [52:15] that are dangerous [52:15] and they won't let anyone in. [52:17] And I guess you can figure why. [52:18] We should be protecting immigrants. [52:20] The state was built by immigrants. [52:22] They continue to make this state run. [52:24] And the idea that we let [52:25] agents from Washington, D.C. [52:27] with masks and assault rifles [52:28] come in here and terrorize them [52:30] is absolutely against [52:32] Californian values. [52:33] And the governor is here [52:34] to protect Californians. [52:36] Tom, you profited off [52:37] of those detention centers. [52:38] Mr. Hilton, we're going to [52:39] have to do the private prison system. [52:41] Mr. Hilton, thank you so much. [52:43] Mr. Hilton, go ahead. [52:44] Thank you very much. [52:45] Unlike everybody else here, [52:46] I actually am an immigrant. [52:48] I'm a proud American, [52:50] American citizen, [52:52] and I am the candidate [52:53] of the legal immigrant community [52:55] for the legal immigrant community [52:58] so that they can have [52:59] the California dream [53:00] just as my parents had it [53:03] when they moved from Hungary [53:04] fleeing communism [53:05] to build a new life in England. [53:06] That's what California [53:07] is all about. [53:08] But it's got to be managed [53:10] and orderly and legal. [53:12] And that's what we have [53:13] to be honest about [53:15] in this whole discussion [53:16] about immigration [53:17] and its enforcement. [53:19] I can tell you very clearly [53:20] that when I'm governor, [53:22] as I've said, [53:23] I will be there [53:24] for our immigrant communities, [53:27] our legal immigrant communities, [53:28] but also we'll make sure [53:30] that all our laws, [53:33] all our laws, [53:34] are peacefully enforced. [53:36] We can't just stand up here [53:37] and decide which laws we like [53:40] and which laws we don't. [53:41] If we don't like the laws, [53:42] we've got to change them. [53:44] But the governor's job [53:45] is to enforce them, [53:46] and as governor, [53:47] I will do that peacefully [53:48] and calmly [53:48] and cooperatively [53:50] with the Federal Immigration Authority. [53:52] Mr. Hilton, [53:52] are you aware [53:53] that not every immigrant [53:53] has the privilege [53:54] that maybe you have [53:55] to come to this country [53:56] with a visa? [53:57] I understand exactly [53:59] what it's like [54:00] to be in a country [54:02] without those privileges [54:03] because that's my life [54:04] and my story [54:05] when my parents [54:06] fed communism in Hungary [54:08] and I grew up [54:09] in a household [54:09] with a single mother, [54:11] working class immigrant story, [54:13] just like so many millions [54:15] in California. [54:16] My stepdad worked construction, [54:18] my first job, [54:19] project manager [54:19] for a construction company. [54:21] So yes, [54:21] I absolutely understand that, [54:23] and that opportunity [54:25] is what I want [54:26] for every single one of you. [54:27] Thank you, sir. [54:28] Every single one. [54:29] Okay, we have a few minutes left. [54:31] What we're going to do [54:32] is ask you several questions, [54:33] as many as we can get in, [54:35] yes or no answers. [54:37] Please respect the time [54:38] we have left. [54:39] We want to get as much information [54:41] out to voters. [54:42] Enrique. [54:42] So as of this year, [54:43] undocumented adults [54:44] can no longer enroll [54:45] in Medi-Cal. [54:47] Would you reinstate this [54:48] if you become governor? [54:50] Yes or no? [54:50] Mr. Villarregosa? [54:51] Yes. [54:52] Ms. Porter? [54:52] Yes. [54:53] Mr. Bianco? [54:54] No. [54:54] Mr. Hilton? [54:55] No. [54:56] Mr. Steyer? [54:56] Yes. [54:57] Mr. Becerra? [54:58] Yes. [54:58] Mr. Meehan? [54:59] Yes. [55:01] All right, [55:01] film and television, [55:02] it is the backbone [55:03] or was the backbone [55:04] of California. [55:05] We've seen a lot of production [55:07] move out of state. [55:08] On a scale of one to ten, [55:11] where would you place this [55:12] in terms of priority? [55:13] I believe we touched [55:14] on it earlier, [55:15] but I'd like a commitment [55:16] from you. [55:17] Number one. [55:18] That's your top priority [55:20] in the whole state? [55:22] Please answer the question, [55:23] Ms. Porter. [55:24] On a scale of one to ten, [55:25] is it a priority? [55:27] It's a priority, yes. [55:28] Of course it's a priority. [55:29] Everyone's going to say, [55:30] it's a priority. [55:31] Of course it is. [55:32] Yeah. [55:33] It's a weird question [55:35] to be honest. [55:35] I agree with Katie. [55:36] I mean, you managed to bring [55:38] bipartisanship. [55:40] I think you might even get [55:41] all of us to agree [55:42] with that one. [55:42] Let me give you [55:43] a different yes or no. [55:44] Very quickly, [55:45] we have two minutes left. [55:46] If you don't mind, [55:47] Colleen, [55:47] for the people in Avalon, [55:48] each in San Luis Obispo County. [55:49] Diablo Canyon, [55:50] the only nuclear power plant [55:52] left in the state, [55:53] nine percent of the electricity. [55:54] We pay three times [55:55] the power [55:56] in the rest of the nation. [55:58] It's supposed to go [55:59] offline in 2030. [56:00] Do you extend it, [56:01] Mayor Mahan? [56:02] Yes or no? [56:02] Keep it open. [56:04] Secretary Becerra. [56:05] Yes. [56:05] Safety, yes. [56:06] But safety first. [56:07] Right, Mr. [56:08] I'm sorry, Tom Steyer. [56:10] Extend it. [56:11] Extend it. [56:11] Okay. [56:12] Mr. Hilton. [56:13] Yes, extend it [56:13] and build new ones. [56:15] Chad Bianco, [56:16] the sheriff. [56:17] Completely nuclear. [56:18] Okay. [56:19] Katie Porter. [56:20] Extend. [56:21] Okay. [56:22] Yes. [56:23] All right, [56:23] let me rephrase [56:24] the film question. [56:25] Would you extend [56:26] tax credits [56:26] to match other countries [56:28] and other states? [56:29] Yes or no? [56:30] Yes. [56:31] Yes or no? [56:31] Yes. [56:32] Mr. Bianco. [56:33] Yes. [56:34] Yes, I published [56:34] my plan on this last week. [56:36] Yes or no, please. [56:37] Exceed other countries. [56:39] We're going to be [56:39] the best in the world. [56:41] Yes or no, Mr. Steyer. [56:41] Yes. [56:41] Mr. Becerra. [56:43] Yes, and it's an 11 [56:44] on a scale of 1 to 10. [56:45] Thank you. [56:46] Yes, I was the first [56:47] candidate to put out [56:48] a plan doing just that. [56:49] Thank you. [56:50] Yes. [56:50] Very quickly, [56:51] again, we had a minute left. [56:53] Under the California [56:55] Education Code, [56:56] you perform [56:56] in an athletic event [56:57] K through 12 [56:58] based on your [56:59] identification by gender. [57:01] Would you change [57:02] that law [57:03] to match the IOC [57:04] that you identify [57:06] based on your [57:07] birth agenda? [57:10] Yes or no? [57:11] Very quickly, [57:12] we have 30 seconds left. [57:12] Mr. Mahan? [57:13] Sorry, change which law? [57:14] State law? [57:15] The current law [57:16] says you identify [57:17] and that's how you participate. [57:18] Yeah, but at higher levels, [57:20] I would let the leagues decide. [57:21] Okay, Mr. Becerra? [57:23] Enforce the law. [57:24] Okay, Mr. Steyer? [57:27] Allow trans athletes [57:28] to participate. [57:29] Mr. Hilton, [57:30] I have a wristband [57:31] that says save girls sports [57:33] and I will. [57:33] Jeff Bianco, [57:34] Katie Porter. [57:35] Yes, enforce the existing law. [57:38] That wraps it up for us [57:39] June 7th.