Debate: Biden and Trump in the First 2024 Presidential Debate

[0:01] We're live from Georgia, a key battleground state in the race for the White House. [0:06] In just moments, the current U.S. president will debate the former U.S. president [0:10] as their party's presumptive nominees of first in American history. [0:16] We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world to our studios in Atlanta. [0:22] This is the CNN Presidential Debate. [0:25] This debate is being produced by CNN and is coming to you live on CNN, CNN International, [0:32] CNN.com, CNN Max, and CNN Español. [0:37] This is a pivotal moment between President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump [0:42] in their rematch for the nation's highest office. [0:45] Each will make his case to the American people with just over four months until Election Day. [0:50] Good evening, I'm Dana Bash, anchor of CNN's Inside Politics and co-anchor of [0:56] CNN. [0:56] I'm Jake Tapper, anchor of CNN's The Lead and co-anchor of State of the Union. [1:01] Dana and I will co-moderate this evening. [1:03] Our job is to facilitate a debate between the two candidates tonight. [1:09] Before we introduce them, we want to share the rules of the debate with the audience at home. [1:13] Former President Trump will be on the left side of the screen. [1:16] President Biden will be appearing on the right. [1:18] A coin toss determines their positions. [1:21] Each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question and one minute each for [1:26] reflection. [1:26] A vote will determine their responses and rebuttals. [1:28] An additional minute for follow-up, clarification, or response is at the moderator's discretion. [1:35] When it's time for a candidate to speak, his microphone will be turned on and his opponent's [1:40] microphone will be turned off. [1:42] Should a candidate interrupt when his microphone is muted, he will be difficult to understand [1:47] for viewers at home. [1:49] At the end of the debate, each candidate will get two minutes for closing statements. [1:54] There is no studio audience tonight. [1:56] Pre-written notes, props, or contact with campaign staff are not permitted during the debate. [2:02] By accepting our invitation to debate, both candidates and their campaigns agreed to accept these rules. [2:09] Now, please welcome the 46th President of the United States, Joe Biden. [2:15] And please welcome the 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. [2:42] Gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. [2:43] Let's begin the debate, and let's start with the issue that voters consistently say, [2:47] is their top concern, the economy. [2:51] President Biden, inflation has slowed, but prices remain high. [2:55] Since you took office, the price of essentials has increased. [2:59] For example, a basket of groceries that cost $100 then now costs more than $120. [3:05] And typical home prices have jumped more than 30%. [3:08] What do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they [3:13] were under President Trump? [3:14] We've got to take a look at what I was left when I became president. [3:18] What Mr. Trump left me, we had an economy that was in free fall, the pandemic was so [3:23] badly handled, many people were dying, all he said was, it's not that serious, just inject [3:28] a little bleach into your arm, you'll be all right. [3:30] The economy collapsed, there were no jobs, unemployment rate rose to 15%, it was terrible. [3:37] And so what we had to do is try to put things back together again. [3:40] And that's exactly what we began to do. [3:41] We created 15,000 new jobs, and we brought on a position where we have 800,000. [3:48] No manufacturing jobs, but there's more to be done. [3:51] There's more to be done. [3:51] Working class people are still in trouble. [3:54] I come from Scranton, Pennsylvania. [3:55] I come from a household where the kitchen table, if things weren't able to be met during [3:59] the month, it was a problem. [4:01] Price of eggs, the price of gas, the price of housing, the price of a whole range of [4:04] things. [4:05] That's why I'm working so hard to make sure I deal with those problems, that we're going [4:09] to make sure that we reduce the price of housing. [4:12] We're going to make sure we build 2 million new units. [4:15] We're going to make sure we cap rents so corporate greed can't. [4:18] Take over the combination. [4:19] But I was left with the corporate greed is the reason why we're in this problem right [4:22] now. [4:23] In addition to that, we're in a situation where if you had to take a look at all that [4:27] was done in his administration, he didn't do much at all by the time he left or things [4:32] were in chaos, literally chaos. [4:35] And so we put things back together. [4:37] We created, I said, those jobs. [4:38] We make sure we had a situation where we now we brought down the price of prescription [4:43] drugs, which is a major issue for many people to $15 for. [4:47] For. [4:48] Uh, a insulin shot as opposed to $400, no senior has to be more than $200 for any drug. [4:55] All the drugs they conclude beginning next year in a situation is making and we're going [5:00] to make that available to everybody, to all Americans. [5:03] So we're working to bring down the price of around the kitchen table, and that's what [5:06] we're going to get done. [5:08] Thank you, President Trump. [5:09] We're the greatest economy in the history of our country. [5:13] We have never done so well. [5:15] Every everybody was amazed by it. [5:18] Other countries. [5:18] We're copying us. [5:19] We got hit with COVID and when we did, we spent the money necessary so we wouldn't end [5:25] up in a great depression, the likes of which we had in 1929 by the time we finished. [5:30] So we did a great job. [5:31] We got a lot of credit for the economy, a lot of credit for the military and no wars [5:35] and so many other things. [5:37] Everything was rocking good, but the thing we never got the credit for and we should [5:41] have is getting us out of that COVID mess. [5:43] Uh, he created mandates that was a disaster for our country, but other than that, we had [5:48] we had given them back a a country where the stock market actually was higher than pre [5:54] COVID and nobody thought that was even possible. [5:57] The only jobs he created are for illegal immigrants and bounce back jobs, a bounce [6:02] back from the COVID. [6:03] He has not done a good job. [6:04] He's done a poor job and inflation is killing our country. [6:07] It is absolutely killing us. [6:09] Thank you, President Biden. [6:11] Well, look, the greatest economy in the world. [6:13] He's the only one who thinks that I think I don't know anybody else who thinks he had the [6:16] greatest economy in the world. [6:18] And you know. [6:19] The fact of the matter is that we found ourselves in a situation where his his economy, he [6:26] rewarded the wealthy. [6:27] He had the largest tax cut in American history, two trillion dollars. [6:31] He raised a deficit larger than any president has in any one term. [6:34] He's the only president other than Herbert Hoover who's lost more jobs than he had when he [6:38] began. Since Herbert Hoover, the idea that he did something that was significant and the [6:43] military, you know, when he was president, they were still killing people in Afghanistan. [6:48] He didn't do anything about that. [6:50] When he was president, we were still find ourselves in a position where you had a notion that we were [6:56] this safe country. [6:57] The truth is, I'm the only president this century that doesn't have any this this decade than any troops [7:05] dying anywhere in the world like he did. [7:08] President Trump, I want to follow up if I can. [7:11] You want to respond to him? [7:13] Well, I'm going to ask you a follow up. [7:14] You can do whatever you want with the minute that we give you. [7:16] I want to follow up. [7:17] You want to impose a 10 percent tariff on all goods coming into the U.S. [7:19] How will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even higher? [7:24] It's not going to drive them higher. [7:25] It's just going to cause countries that have been ripping us off for years, like China and many [7:29] others, in all fairness to China, it's going to just force them to pay us a lot of money, reduce [7:34] our deficit tremendously and give us a lot of power for other things. [7:37] But he would he made a statement. [7:39] The only thing he was right about is I gave you the largest tax cut in history. [7:43] I also gave you the largest regulation cut in history. [7:46] That's why we had all the jobs and the jobs went down and then they bounced back. [7:49] And he's taking credit for bounce back jobs. [7:51] You can't do that. [7:52] He also said he inherited nine percent inflation. [7:55] Now, he inherited almost no inflation and it stayed that way for 14 months. [8:00] And then it blew up under his leadership because they spent money like a bunch of people that didn't know what they were doing. [8:06] And they don't know what they were doing. [8:07] It was the worst, probably the worst administration in history there's never been. [8:11] And as far as Afghanistan is concerned, I was getting out of Afghanistan. [8:15] But we're getting out with dignity, with strength, with power. [8:19] He got out. [8:20] It was the most embarrassing day in the history of our country's life. [8:24] President Trump, over the last eight years, under both of your administrations, the national debt soared to record highs. [8:30] And according to a new nonpartisan analysis, President Trump, your administration approved eight point four trillion dollars in new debt. [8:36] Well, so far, President Biden, you've approved four point three trillion dollars in new debt. [8:41] So former President Trump, many of the tax cuts that you signed into law are set to expire next year. [8:46] You want to extend them and go even further, you say. [8:49] With the U.S. facing trillion dollar deficits and record debt, why should top earners and corporations pay even less in taxes than they do now? [8:58] Because the tax cuts spurred the greatest economy that we've ever seen just prior to COVID. [9:02] And even after COVID, it was so strong that we were able to get through COVID much better than just about any other country. [9:08] But we spurred, that tax spurred. [9:10] Now, when we cut the taxes, as an example, the corporate tax was cut down to 21 percent from 39 percent, plus beyond that. [9:18] We took in more revenue with much less tax, and companies were bringing back trillions of dollars back into our country. [9:25] The country was going like never before. [9:28] And we were ready to start paying down debt. [9:30] We were ready to start using the liquid gold right under our feet, the oil and gas right under our feet. [9:35] We were going to have something that nobody else has had. [9:38] We got hit with COVID. [9:40] We did a lot to fix it. [9:41] I gave him an unbelievable situation with all of the therapeutics and all of the things that we came up with. [9:48] We gave him something great. [9:50] Remember, more people died under his administration, even though we had largely fixed it. [9:56] More people died under his administration than our administration. [10:00] And we were right in the middle of it, something which a lot of people don't like to talk about. [10:04] But he had far more people dying in his administration. [10:07] He did the mandate, which is a disaster, mandating it. [10:10] The vaccine went out. [10:12] He did a mandate on the vaccine, which is the thing that people most objected to about the vaccine. [10:17] And he did it. [10:18] He did a very poor job, just a very poor job. [10:20] And I will tell you, not only poor there, but throughout the entire world, we're no longer respected as a country. [10:26] They don't respect our leadership. [10:28] They don't respect the United States anymore. [10:30] We're like a third world nation between weaponization of his election, trying to go after his political opponent. [10:37] All of the things he's done, we've become like a third world nation. [10:40] And it's a shame. [10:42] The damage he's done to our country, and I'd love to ask him and Will why he allowed millions of people [10:47] to come in here from prisons, jails, and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country. [10:54] President Trump, we will get to immigration later in this block. [10:57] President Biden, I want to give you an opportunity to respond to this question about the national debt. [11:03] He had the largest national debt of any president in a four-year period, number one. [11:07] Number two, that $2 trillion tax credit benefited the very wealthy. [11:12] What I'm going to do is fix the tax system. [11:14] For example, we have 1,000 trillionaires in America. [11:17] I mean, billionaires in America. [11:19] And what's happening? [11:20] They're in a situation where they, in fact, pay 8.2% in taxes. [11:24] If they just paid 24% or 25%, either one of those numbers, they'd raise $500 million, billion dollars, I should say, in a 10-year period. [11:34] We'd be able to wipe out his debt. [11:36] We'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do, childcare, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our healthcare system, [11:44] making sure that we're able to make every single solid tax. [11:46] Every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with. [12:00] Look, if we finally beat Medicare. [12:05] Thank you, President Biden. [12:06] President Trump? [12:07] Well, he's right. [12:09] He did beat Medicare. [12:10] He beat it to death. [12:11] And he's destroying Medicare because all of these people are coming in. [12:15] They're putting them on Medicare. [12:16] They're putting them on Social Security. [12:18] They're going to destroy Social Security. [12:19] This man is going to single-handedly destroy Social Security. [12:23] These millions and millions of people coming in, they're trying to put them on Social Security. [12:28] He will wipe out Social Security. [12:31] He will wipe out Medicare. [12:32] So he was right in the way he finished that sentence. [12:35] And it's a shame. [12:36] What's happened to our country in the last four years is not to be believed. [12:40] Foreign countries, I'm friends with a lot of people, they cannot believe what happened to the United States of America. [12:47] We're no longer respected. [12:48] They don't like us. [12:50] We give them everything they want, and they think we're stupid. [12:54] They think we're very stupid people. [12:56] What we're doing for other countries, and they do nothing for us. [12:59] What this man has done is absolutely criminal. [13:03] Thank you, President Trump. [13:05] Dana? [13:06] This is the first presidential election since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. [13:11] This morning, the court ruled on yet another abortion case, temporarily allowing emergency abortions [13:18] to continue in Idaho, despite that state's restrictive ban. [13:22] Former President Trump, you take credit for the decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, [13:27] which returned the issue of abortion to the states. [13:30] Correct. [13:31] However, the federal government still plays a role in whether or not women have access to abortion pills. [13:38] They're used in about two-thirds of all abortions. [13:42] As president, would you block abortion medication? [13:47] First of all, the Supreme Court just approved the abortion. [13:50] And I agree with their decision to have done that, and I will not block it. [13:55] And if you look at this whole question that you're asking, complex but not really complex. [14:01] Fifty-one years ago, you had Roe v. Wade, and everybody wanted to get it back to the states. [14:06] Everybody, without exception, Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives. [14:10] Everybody wanted it back, religious leaders. [14:13] And what I did is I put three great Supreme Court justices on the court, and they happened to vote [14:19] in favor of killing Roe v. Wade and moving it back to the states. [14:23] This is something that everybody wanted. [14:26] Now, ten years ago or so, they started talking about how many weeks and how many this and getting into other things. [14:31] But every legal scholar throughout the world, the most respected, wanted it brought back to the states. [14:37] I did that. [14:38] Now the states are working it out. [14:40] If you look at Ohio, it was a decision that was an end result that was a little bit more liberal than you would have thought. [14:46] Kansas, I would say the same thing. [14:48] Texas. [14:49] Texas is different. [14:50] Florida is different. [14:51] But they're all making their own decisions right now. [14:54] And right now, the states control it. [14:56] That's the vote of the people. [14:58] Like Ronald Reagan, I believe in the exceptions. [15:01] I am a person that believes. [15:03] And frankly, I think it's important to believe in the exceptions. [15:06] Some people, you have to follow your heart. [15:07] Some people don't believe in that. [15:09] But I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother. [15:14] I think it's very important. [15:15] Some people don't. [15:16] Follow your heart. [15:17] But you have to get elected also. [15:18] Because that has to do with other things. [15:21] You've got to get elected. [15:22] The problem they have is they're radical because they will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth. [15:30] After birth, if you look at the former governor of Virginia, he was willing to do this. [15:34] He said we'll put the baby aside and we'll determine what we do with the baby, meaning we'll kill the baby. [15:40] What happened is we brought it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue. [15:45] It's been a great thing. [15:47] Thank you. [15:49] Isn't it, Biden? [15:50] It's been a terrible thing, what you've done. [15:52] The fact is that the vast majority of constitutional scholars supported Roe when it was decided. [15:57] Supported Roe. [15:58] And that's this idea that they were all against it. [16:01] It's just ridiculous. [16:02] And this is the guy who says the states should be able to have it. [16:05] We're in a state where in six weeks, you don't even know whether you're pregnant or not, but you cannot see a doctor and have him decide on what your circumstances are, whether you need help. [16:16] The idea that states are able to do this is a little like saying. [16:18] We're going to turn civil rights back to the states. [16:21] Let each state have a different rule. [16:23] Look, there's so many young women who have been, including a young woman who just was murdered. [16:28] And he went to the funeral. [16:30] And the idea that she was murdered by an immigrant coming in. [16:36] They talk about that. [16:37] But here's the deal. [16:38] There's a lot of young women who are being raped by their in-laws, by their spouses, brothers and sisters. [16:47] It's just ridiculous. [16:49] And they can do nothing about it. [16:51] And they try to arrest them when they cross state lines. [16:53] Thank you. [16:55] There have been many young women murdered by the same people he allows to come across our border. [17:01] We have a border that's the most dangerous place anywhere in the world. [17:04] Consider the most dangerous place anywhere in the world. [17:07] And he opened it up. [17:08] And these killers are coming into our country. [17:10] And they are raping and killing women. [17:13] And it's a terrible thing. [17:14] As far as the abortion is concerned, it is now back with the states. [17:17] The states are voting. [17:18] In many cases, it's frankly a very liberal decision. [17:22] In many cases, it's the opposite. [17:24] But they're voting. [17:25] And it's bringing it back to the vote of the people, which is what everybody wanted, including the founders if they knew about this issue, which, frankly, they didn't. [17:33] But everybody wanted it brought back. [17:36] Ronald Reagan wanted it brought back. [17:38] He wasn't able to get it. [17:39] Everybody wanted it brought back. [17:41] And many presidents had tried to get it back. [17:44] I was the one to do it. [17:45] And, again, this gives it the vote. [17:47] This is the vote of the people. [17:48] And that's where they wanted it. [17:50] Every legal scholar wanted it that way. [17:52] Staying on the topic of abortion, President Biden, seven states, I'll let you do that. [17:58] This is the same topic. [18:00] Seven states have no legal restrictions on how far into a pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion. [18:07] Do you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy? [18:12] I support Roe v. Wade, which had three trimesters. [18:16] The first time is between the woman and the doctor. [18:18] Second time is between the doctor and an extreme situation. [18:22] The third time is between the doctor, I mean, between the woman and the state. [18:27] The idea that the politicians, that the founders wanted the politicians to be the ones making decisions about a woman's health is ridiculous. [18:35] That's the last. [18:36] No politician should be making that decision. [18:38] A doctor should be making those decisions. [18:40] That's how it should be run. [18:41] That's what you're going to do. [18:43] And if I'm elected, I'm going to restore Roe v. Wade. [18:47] We can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth because some states, Democrat run, take it after birth. [18:55] Again, the governor, former governor of Virginia, put the baby down, then we decide what to do with it. [19:00] So he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill the baby. [19:07] Nobody wants that to happen, Democrat or Republican. [19:10] Nobody wants it to happen. [19:13] That is simply not true. [19:15] Roe v. Wade does not provide for that. [19:17] That's not the circumstance. [19:19] Only if a woman's life is in danger, she's going to die. [19:21] That's the only circumstance in which that can happen. [19:23] But we are not for late-term abortion, period, period, period. [19:27] Under Roe v. Wade, you have late-term abortion. [19:30] You can do whatever you want, depending on the state. [19:32] You can do whatever you want. [19:34] We don't think that's a good thing. [19:35] We think it's a radical thing. [19:37] We think the Democrats are the radicals, not the Republicans. [19:40] For 51 years, that was the law. [19:42] 51 years, Constance's Scholarship said it was the right way to go. [19:45] 51 years. [19:46] 51 years, and it was taken away because this guy put very conservative members on the Supreme Court. [19:51] He takes credit for taking it away. [19:53] What's he going to do? [19:54] What's he going to do, in fact, if the MAGA Republicans, he gets elected and the MAGA Republicans control the Congress [20:01] and they pass a universal ban on abortion, period, across the board at six weeks or seven or eight or ten weeks, [20:08] something very, very conservative? [20:10] Is he going to sign that bill? [20:11] I'll veto it. [20:12] He'll sign it. [20:13] Thank you. [20:14] Let's turn now to the issue of immigration. [20:16] On immigration and border security, President Biden, a record number of migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on your watch, [20:22] overwhelming border states and overburdening cities such as New York and Chicago and, in some cases, causing real safety and security concerns. [20:30] Given that, why should voters trust you to solve this crisis? [20:34] Because we worked very hard to get a bipartisan agreement that not only changed all of that, [20:39] made sure that we are in a situation where you had no circumstance where they could come across the border [20:45] with the number of border police there are now. [20:48] We significantly increased the number of asylum officers. [20:51] By the way, the Border Patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position. [20:55] In addition to that, we found ourselves in a situation where, when he was president, he was taking, separating babies from their mothers, [21:02] putting them in cages, making sure the families were separated. [21:06] That's not the right way to go. [21:08] What I've done since I've changed the law, what's happened, I've changed it in a way that now you're in a situation where, [21:15] there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally. [21:19] That's better than when he left office. [21:21] And I'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the total initiative [21:27] relative to what we're going to do with more Border Patrol and more asylum officers. [21:33] President Trump? [21:34] I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. [21:36] I don't think he knows what he said either. [21:38] Look, we had the safest border in the history of our country. [21:41] All he had to do was leave it. [21:44] All he had to do was leave it. [21:45] He decided to open up our border, open up our country to people that are from prisons, [21:51] people that are from mental institutions, insane asylum, terrorists. [21:56] We have the largest number of terrorists coming into our country right now, all terrorists, all over the world, [22:01] not just in South America, all over the world. [22:03] They come from the Middle East, everywhere. [22:05] All over the world, they're pouring in. [22:07] And this guy just left it open. [22:09] And he didn't need legislation, because I didn't have legislation. [22:12] I said, close the border. [22:13] We had the safest border in history. [22:15] In that final couple of months of my presidency, we had, according to Border Patrol, who is great, [22:21] and by the way, who endorsed me for president, but I won't say that, but they endorsed me for president. [22:26] Brandon, just speak to him. [22:28] But look, we had the safest border in history. [22:31] Now we have the worst border in history. [22:33] There's never been anything like it. [22:34] And people are dying all over the place, including the people that are coming up in caravans. [22:38] Thank you, President Trump. [22:39] President Biden? [22:40] The only terrorist who's done anything crossing the border [22:43] is one who came along and killed three people. [22:45] He and his administration killed an al-Qaeda person. [22:48] And his administration killed three American soldiers. [22:53] Killed three American soldiers. [22:55] That's the only terrorist that's there. [22:57] I'm not saying that no terrorist ever got through. [22:59] But the idea, they're emptying their prisons. [23:01] We're welcoming these people. [23:03] That's simply not true. [23:04] There's no data to support what he said. [23:06] Once again, he's exaggerating. [23:08] He's lying. [23:10] President Trump, staying on the topic of immigration, you've said that you're going to carry out, quote, [23:14] the largest domestic deportation operation in American history, unquote. [23:18] Does that mean that you will deport every undocumented immigrant in America, [23:22] including those who have jobs, including those whose spouses are citizens, [23:26] and including those who have lived here for decades? [23:28] And if so, how will you do it? [23:30] Just one second. [23:31] He said we killed three people. [23:33] The people we killed are al-Baghdadi and Soleimani, [23:37] the two greatest terrorists, biggest terrorists anywhere in the world. [23:40] And it had a huge impact on everything, not just border, on everything. [23:44] He's the one that killed people with the bad water, [23:47] including hundreds of thousands of people dying [23:51] and also killing our citizens when they come in. [23:54] We are living right now in a rat's nest. [23:57] They're killing our people in New York, in California, [24:00] in every state in the union because we don't have borders anymore. [24:04] Every state is now a border. [24:06] And because of his ridiculous, insane, and very stupid policies, [24:10] people are coming in and they're killing our citizens [24:13] at a level that we've never seen before. [24:15] We call it migrant crime. [24:17] I call it Biden migrant crime. [24:19] They're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen before. [24:23] And you're reading it like these three incredible young girls [24:26] over the last few days. [24:28] One of them, I just spoke to the mother, [24:30] and he just had the funeral for this girl, 12 years old. [24:34] This is horrible what's taken place, what's taken place in our country. [24:38] We're literally an uncivilized country now. [24:41] He doesn't want it to be. He just doesn't know. [24:43] He opened the borders. [24:44] Nobody's ever seen anything like it. [24:46] And we have to get a lot of these people out or we have to get them out fast [24:49] because they're going to destroy our country. [24:51] Just take a look at where they're living. [24:53] They're living in luxury hotels in New York City and other places. [24:57] Our veterans are on the street. [24:59] They're dying because he doesn't care about our veterans. [25:01] He doesn't care. [25:02] He doesn't like the military at all. [25:04] And he doesn't care about our veterans. [25:05] Nobody's been worse. [25:07] I had the highest approval rating for veterans taking care of the VA. [25:11] He has the worst. [25:12] He's gotten rid of all the things that I approved. [25:14] The choice that I got through Congress. [25:16] All of the different things I approved, they abandoned. [25:20] We had by far the highest and now it's down in less than half [25:23] because he's done all these great things that we did. [25:26] And I think he did it just because I approved it, which is crazy. [25:29] But he has killed so many people at our border by allowing all of these people to come in. [25:34] And it's a very sad day in America. [25:36] President Biden, you have the mic. [25:37] Every single thing he said is a lie. [25:39] Every single one. [25:40] For example, veterans are a hell of a lot better off since I passed the PACT Act. [25:44] One million of them now have insurance and their families have it. [25:48] Their families have it because what happened, whether it was Agent Orange or burn pits, [25:53] they're all being covered now. [25:55] And his group opposed that. [25:57] We're also in a situation where we have great respect for veterans. [26:00] My son spent a year in Iraq living in one of the next one of those burn pits, [26:04] came back with stage four glioblastoma. [26:07] I was recently in France for D-Day. [26:11] And I spoke all about those heroes that died. [26:14] I went to the World War II cemetery, World War I cemetery he refused to go to. [26:19] He was standing with his four-star general. [26:21] And he told me, he said, I don't want to go in there because they're a bunch of losers and suckers. [26:25] My son was not a loser, was not a sucker. [26:27] You're the sucker. [26:28] You're the loser. [26:29] President Trump? [26:31] First of all, that was a made-up quote, suckers and losers. [26:34] They made it up. [26:35] It was in a third-rate magazine that's failing, like many of these magazines. [26:39] He made that up. [26:40] He put it in commercials. [26:41] We've notified him. [26:42] We had 19 people that said I didn't say it. [26:44] And think of this. [26:45] Who would say I'm at a cemetery or I'm talking about our veterans? [26:49] Because nobody's taking better care. [26:51] I'm so glad this came up. [26:52] And he brought it up. [26:54] There's nobody that's taken better care of our soldiers than I have. [26:57] To think that I would, in front of generals and others, say suckers and losers. [27:03] We have 19 people that said it was never said by me. [27:07] It was made up by him. [27:08] Just like Russia, Russia, Russia was made up. [27:11] Just like the 51 intelligence agents are made up. [27:15] Just like the new thing with the 16 economists are talking. [27:18] It's the same thing. [27:19] Fifty-one intelligence agents said that the laptop was Russia disinformation. [27:24] It wasn't. [27:25] That came from his son, Hunter. [27:27] It wasn't Russia disinformation. [27:29] He made up the suckers and losers. [27:31] So he should apologize to me right now. [27:34] Four-star general standing at your side who was on your staff who said you said it, period. [27:39] That's number one. [27:40] And number two, the idea, the idea that I have to apologize to you for anything. [27:45] We've done more for veterans than any president has in American history, American history. [27:50] And they now are in their family. [27:52] The only sacred obligation we have as a country is to care for our veterans when they come home and their families and equip them when they go to war. [27:59] That's what we're doing. [28:00] That's what the VA is doing now. [28:02] They're doing more for veterans than ever before in our history. [28:05] All right. [28:06] Thank you so much. [28:08] The topic of foreign policy. [28:09] I want to begin with Russia's war against Ukraine, which is now in its third year. [28:15] Former President Trump, Russian President Vladimir Putin says he'll only end this war if Russia keeps the Ukrainian territory it has already claimed and Ukraine abandons its bid to join NATO. [28:29] Are Putin's terms acceptable to you? [28:31] First of all, our veterans and our soldiers can't stand this guy. [28:37] They can't stand him. [28:38] They think he's the worst commander in chief, if that's what you call him, that we've ever had. [28:43] They can't stand him. [28:44] So let's get that straight. [28:45] And they like me more than just about any of them. [28:48] And that's based on every single bit of information. [28:51] As far as Russia and Ukraine, if we had a real president, the president that knew that was respected by Putin, he would have never he would have never invaded Ukraine. [29:02] A lot of people are dead right now, much more than people know. [29:05] You know, they talk about numbers. [29:06] You can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers. [29:09] He did nothing to stop it. [29:10] In fact, I think he encouraged Russia from going in. [29:13] I'll tell you what happened. [29:14] It was so bad with Afghanistan. [29:16] It was such a horrible embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the history of our country that when Putin watched that and he saw the incompetence that he should he should have fired those generals like I fired the one that you mentioned. [29:28] And so he's got no love lost, but he should have fired those generals. [29:31] No general got fired for the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, Afghanistan, where we left billions of dollars of equipment behind. [29:41] We lost 13 beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers. [29:43] And 38 soldiers were obliterated. [29:45] And by the way, we left people behind, too. [29:47] We left American citizens behind. [29:49] When Putin saw that, he said, you know what? [29:51] I think we're going to go in and maybe take my. [29:54] This was his dream. [29:55] I talked to him about it. [29:56] His dream. [29:57] The difference is he never would have invaded Ukraine. [30:01] Never. [30:02] Just like Israel would have never been invaded in a million years by Hamas. [30:08] You know why? [30:09] Because Iran was broke with me. [30:11] I wouldn't let anybody do business with them. [30:13] They ran out of money. [30:14] They were broke. [30:15] They had no money for Hamas. [30:16] They had no money for anything. [30:18] No money for terror. [30:19] That's why you had no terror at all during my administration. [30:23] This place, the whole world is blowing up under him. [30:26] President Biden never heard so much malarkey in my whole life. [30:31] Look, the fact of the matter is that we're in a situation where let's take the last point first. [30:35] Iran attacked American troops, kill caused brain damage for a number of these troops. [30:42] And he did nothing about it recently. [30:44] Not when he was president. [30:45] They attacked. [30:46] He said they're just having headaches. [30:47] That's all it is. [30:48] He didn't do a thing when the attack took place, number one. [30:50] Number two, we got over 100,000 Americans and others out of Afghanistan during that [30:59] airlift. [31:00] Number three, we found ourselves in a situation where if you take a look at what Trump did [31:05] in Ukraine, this guy told Trump, do whatever you want and do whatever you want. [31:13] And that's exactly what Trump did to Putin. [31:15] Encourage him. [31:16] Do whatever you want. [31:17] And he went in. [31:18] And listen to what he said when he went in. [31:19] He was going to take Kyiv in five days. [31:20] Remember? [31:21] Because it's part of the old Soviet Union. [31:22] That's what he wanted to reestablish. [31:23] Kyiv. [31:24] And he, in fact, didn't do it at all. [31:25] He didn't, wasn't able to get it done. [31:26] And they've lost over, they've lost thousands and thousands of troops. [31:27] 500,000 troops. [31:28] Thank you. [31:29] President Trump, as I come back to you. [31:30] I never said that. [31:31] For one minute, I just want to go back to my original question, which is, you know, [31:32] you've lost thousands and thousands of troops. [31:33] 500,000 troops. [31:34] Thank you. [31:35] President Trump, as I come back to you. [31:36] I never said that. [31:37] I just want to go back to my original question, which is, are Putin's terms acceptable to [31:43] you? [31:44] Keeping the territory in Ukraine? [31:45] No, they're not acceptable. [31:46] No, they're not acceptable. [31:47] But look, this is a war that never should have started. [31:48] If we had a leader in this war, he led everybody along. [31:49] He's given $200 billion now, or more, to Ukraine. [31:50] He's given $200 billion. [31:51] That's a lot of money. [31:52] I don't think there's ever been anything like it. [31:53] Every time that, you know, there's a war, there's a war, there's a war, there's a war, [31:54] there's a war, there's a war, there's a war, there's a war, there's a war, there's a war, [31:55] he led everybody along. [31:57] He's given $200 billion now, or more, to Ukraine. [32:01] He's given $200 billion. [32:03] That's a lot of money. [32:04] I don't think there's ever been anything like it. [32:06] Every time that Zelensky comes to this country, he walks away with $60 billion. [32:10] He's the greatest salesman ever. [32:12] And I'm not knocking him. [32:13] I'm not knocking anything. [32:14] I'm only saying the money that we're spending on this war and we shouldn't be spending, [32:21] it should have never happened. [32:22] I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelensky. [32:26] Zelensky, as president-elect, before I take office on January 20th, I'll have that war [32:31] settled. People being killed so needlessly, so stupidly, and I will get it settled, and I'll [32:38] get it settled fast before I take office. President Biden, you have a minute. [32:43] The fact is that Putin is a war criminal. He's killed thousands and thousands of people. And he [32:49] has made one thing clear. He wants to reestablish what was part of the Soviet empire, not just a [32:56] peace. He wants all of Ukraine. That's what he wants. And then you think he'll stop there? Do [33:00] you think he'll stop if he takes Ukraine? What do you think happens to Poland? What do you think [33:06] of Belarus? What do you think happens to those NATO countries? And so if you want a war, you [33:10] ought to find out what he's going to do, because if, in fact, he does what he says and walks away [33:16] — by the way, all that money we give Ukraine and the weapons we make here in the United States, [33:21] we give them the weapons, not the money at this point. And our NATO allies, [33:25] the people of Ukraine, the people of our people, the people of Ukraine, the people of Ukraine, [33:26] the people of Ukraine, the people of Ukraine, the people of Ukraine, the people of Ukraine, the people of [33:26] produced as much funding for Ukraine as we have. That's why we're strong. [33:31] Thank you. Moving on to the Middle East. In October, Hamas attacked Israel, [33:38] killing more than 1,000 people and taking hundreds of hostages. [33:42] Among those held and thought to still be alive are five Americans. Israel's response has killed [33:48] thousands of Palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. President Biden, [33:53] you've put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict. But so far, Hamas has not released [34:00] the remaining hostages, and Israel is continuing its military offensive in Gaza. [34:05] So what additional leverage will you use to get Hamas and Israel to end the war? You have two [34:12] minutes. Number one, everyone from the United Nations Security Council straight through to the [34:20] G7 to the Israelis and Netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan they put forward. [34:23] Endorsed the plan they put forward, which has three stages to it. The first stage is trade the [34:30] hostages for a ceasefire. Second phase is a ceasefire with additional conditions. The third [34:36] phase is the end of the war. The only one who wants the war to continue is Hamas, number one. [34:42] They're the only ones standing out. We're still pushing hard to get them to accept. In the [34:47] meantime, what's happened? In Israel, we're finding that the only thing I've denied Israel [34:52] was to end the war. And that's the only thing I've denied. And that's the only thing I've denied. [34:53] Two thousand pound bombs. They don't work very well in populated areas. They kill a lot of [34:58] innocent people. We're providing Israel with all the weapons they need and when they need them. [35:02] And by the way, I'm the guy that organized the world against Iran when they had a full-blown [35:08] intercontinental ballistic missile attack on Israel. No one was hurt. No one Israeli was [35:15] accidentally killed. And it stopped. We saved Israel. We are the biggest producer of support [35:22] for Israel of anyone in the world. [35:23] And so that's, there are two different things. Hamas cannot be allowed to be continued. We continue [35:30] to send our experts and our intelligence people as to how they can get Hamas like we did bin Laden. [35:35] You don't have to do it. And by the way, they've been greatly weakened, Hamas. Greatly weakened. [35:40] And they should be. They should be eliminated. But you've got to be careful for what, using [35:45] certain weapons among population centers. Just going back to Ukraine for one second. [35:52] We have an ocean separating us. The European... [35:56] We have two nations together have spent a hundred billion or maybe more than that. Less than us. [36:03] Why doesn't he call them? So you got to put up your money like I did with NATO. I got them to put up [36:07] hundreds of billions of dollars. The secretary general of NATO said Trump did the most incredible [36:12] job I've ever seen. You wouldn't. They wouldn't have any. They were going out of business. We were [36:16] spending almost 100 percent of the money was it was paid by us. He didn't do that. He's getting [36:22] all. You got to ask these people to put up the money. We're over a hundred billion dollars more [36:27] spent. [36:27] That has a bigger impact on them because of location, because we have an ocean in between. You got to ask them as far as Israel and Hamas. Israel is the one that wants to go. He said the only one who wants to keep going is Hamas. Actually, Israel is the one. And you should let him go and let him finish the job. He doesn't want to do it. He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like him because he's a very bad Palestinian. He's a weak one. [36:51] President Biden, you have a minute. [36:54] I've never heard so much foolishness. This is a guy who wants to get out of NATO. Are you going to stand up for him? [36:58] He's going to pull out of NATO. Are you going to stay in NATO? He's going to pull out of NATO. The idea that we have, our strength lies in our alliances as well. It may be a big ocean, but if we're able to avoid a war in Europe, a major war in Europe, what happens if, in fact, you have Putin continue to go into NATO? We have an Article 5 agreement. Attack on one is attack on all. You want to start the nuclear war he keeps talking about, go ahead, let Putin go in and control Ukraine and then move on to Poland and other places. [37:27] You see what happens. [37:28] You see what happens then. He has no idea what the hell he's talking about. And by the way, I've got 50 other nations around the world to support Ukraine, including Japan and South Korea, because they understand that this kind of dislocation has a serious threat to the whole world peace. No major war in Europe has ever been able to be contained just to Europe. [37:49] President Trump, just to follow up, would you support the creation of an independent Palestinian state in order to achieve peace in the region? [37:56] I'd have to see. [37:57] But before we do that, the problem... [37:59] The problem we have is that we spend all the money. So they kill us on trade. I made great trade deals with the European nations, because if you add them up, they're about the same size economically. Their economy is about the same size as the United States. And they were... No cars, no... They don't want anything that we have, but we're supposed to take their cars, their food, their everything, their agriculture. I changed that. But the big thing I changed is they don't want to pay. And the only reason that he can play games with NATO is because they don't want to pay. [38:30] Because I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. I said... And he's right about this. I said, no, I'm not going to support NATO if you don't pay. They asked me that question. Would you guard us against Russia at a very secret meeting of the 28 states at that time, nations at that time? And I said, no, if you don't pay, I won't do that. And you know what happened? Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in the next day and the next months. But now we're in the same position. We're paying everybody's bills. [39:00] Let's turn to the issue of democracy. Former President Trump, I want to ask you about January 6th, 2021. After you rallied your supporters that day, some of them stormed the Capitol to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes. [39:14] As president, you swore an oath to, quote, preserve, protect and defend, unquote, the Constitution. What do you say to voters who believe that you violated that oath through your actions and inaction on January 6th and worry that you'll do it again? [39:27] Well, I don't think too many believe that. And let me tell you about January 6th. [39:30] On January 6th, we had a great border. Nobody coming through. Very few. On January 6th, we were energy independent. On January 6th, we had the lowest taxes ever. We had the lowest regulations ever. On January 6th, we were respected all over the world. All over the world, we were respected. And then he comes in and we're now left that. We're like a bunch of stupid people. [39:53] What happened to the United States' reputation under this man's leadership is horrible. [40:00] Including weaponization, which I'm sure at some point you'll be talking about, where he goes after his political opponent because he can't beat him fair and square. [40:08] You have 80 seconds left. My question was, what do you say to those voters who believe that you violated your constitutional oath through your actions and inaction on January 6th, 2021 and worry that you'll do it again? [40:20] Well, I didn't say that to anybody. I said peacefully and patriotically. And Nancy Pelosi, if you just watched the news from two days ago, on tape to her daughter, who's a documentator. [40:31] She's a documentary filmmaker, like they say. But she's saying, oh, no, it's my responsibility. I was responsible for this because I offered her 10,000 soldiers or National Guard, and she turned them down. [40:43] And the mayor of in writing, by the way, the mayor in writing turned it down. The mayor of D.C. They turned it down. I offered 10,000 because I could see I had virtually nothing to do. [40:55] They asked me to go make a speech. I could see what was happening. Everybody was saying they're going to be there on January 6th. They're going to be there. [41:01] And I said, you know what? There's a lot of people coming. You could feel it. You could [41:04] feel it, too. And you could feel it. And I said, they ought to have some National Guard or whatever. [41:10] And I offered it to her. And she now admits that she turned it down. And it was the same day she [41:16] was, I don't know, he can't be very happy with her daughter because it made her into a liar. [41:20] She said, I take full responsibility for January 6th. [41:25] President Biden? [41:27] Look, he encouraged those folks to go up on Capitol Hill, number one. I sat in that dining [41:33] room off the Oval Office. He sat there for three hours, three hours watching, begging, being begged [41:39] by his vice president and a number of his colleagues on the Republican side as well [41:43] to do something, to call for a stop, to end it. Instead, he talked about these people being [41:48] patriots and great patrons of America. In fact, he says he'll now forgive them for what they've [41:55] done. They've been convicted. He says he wants to commute their sentences and say that, no, [42:02] he went to every... [42:03] Single court in the nation. I don't know how many cases, scores of cases, including the Supreme [42:08] Court. And they said, they said, no, no, this guy, this guy is responsible for doing what is [42:15] being, what was done. He did do a damn thing. And these people should be in jail. And they should [42:20] be the ones that are being held accountable. And he wants to let them all out. And now he says if [42:25] he loses again, such a whiner that he is, that it could be a bloodbath. [42:29] Thank you, President Biden. President Trump? [42:32] What they've done to some people, [42:34] that are so innocent, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. What you have done, [42:38] how you've destroyed the lives of so many people. When they ripped down Portland, when they ripped [42:43] down many other cities, you go to Minnesota, Minneapolis, what they've done there with the [42:50] fires all over the city. If I didn't bring in the National Guard, that city would have been [42:54] destroyed. When you look at all of the... They took over big chunks of Seattle. I was all set [43:00] to bring in the National Guard. They heard that. They saw them coming and they left immediately. [43:04] What he said about this whole subject is so off. Peacefully patriotic. One other thing, [43:12] the unselect committee, which is basically two horrible Republicans that are all gone now out [43:19] of office, and Democrats, all Democrats, they destroyed and deleted all of the information [43:25] they found because they found out we were right. We were right. And they deleted and destroyed all [43:30] of the information. They should go to jail for that. If a Republican did that, they'd go to jail. [43:34] Thank you, President Trump. [43:35] President Biden, I want to give you a minute. [43:37] The only person in this stage who's a convicted felon is the man I'm looking at right now. [43:42] And the fact of the matter is, what he's telling you is simply not true. The fact is that there was [43:48] no effort on his part to stop what was going on up in Capitol Hill. And all those people, [43:54] every one of those who were convicted, deserves to be convicted. The idea that they didn't kill [43:59] somebody just went in and broke down doors, broke the windows, occupied offices, turned over desks, [44:06] turned over statues, the idea that those people are patriots, come on. When I asked him the first [44:13] of two debates we had, the debates we had the first time around, I said, will you denounce the [44:18] Proud Boys? He said, no, I'll tell them to stand by. The idea he's refusing, will you denounce [44:24] these guys? Will you denounce the people we're talking about now? Will you denounce the people [44:29] who attacked that Capitol? What are you going to do? I'm going to give you a minute, President Trump, [44:36] for a follow-up question I have. [44:38] After a jury convicted you of 34 felonies last month, you said if reelected, you would, quote, [44:44] have every right to go after, unquote, your political opponents. You just talked about [44:49] members of the select committee on January 6th going to jail. Your main political opponent is [44:53] standing on stage with you tonight. Can you clarify exactly what it means about you feeling [44:58] you have every right to go after your political opponents? Well, I said my retribution is going [45:02] to be success. We're going to make this country successful again, because right now it's a failing [45:08] to be success. But when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high [45:14] level. His son is convicted, going to be convicted probably numerous other times. Should have been [45:19] convicted before, but his Justice Department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most [45:24] important things. But he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office. Joe could [45:28] be a convicted felon with all of the things that he's done. He's done horrible things. All of the [45:33] death caused at the border, telling the Ukrainian people that we're going to, [45:38] what, a billion dollars or you change the prosecutor? Otherwise, you're not getting a billion dollars. [45:43] If I ever said that, that's quid pro quo, that we're not going to do anything. We're not going to give you a [45:49] billion dollars unless you change your prosecutor having to do with the son. This man is a criminal. [45:54] This man, you're lucky. You're lucky. I did nothing wrong. We'd have a system that was rigged and disgusting. [46:00] I did nothing wrong. Thank you, President Trump. President Biden, you have said I'm coming right to you, sir. [46:05] You well, you want to respond. Go ahead. I'll give you a minute to respond. [46:08] Yeah. [46:08] The idea that I did anything wrong relative to what you're talking about is outrageous. [46:14] It's simply a lie, number one. Number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution [46:19] against any American just because you're president is wrong. It's simply wrong. No [46:24] president's ever spoken like that before. No president in our history has spoken like that [46:28] before. Number three, the crimes that you are still charged with, and think of all the civil [46:33] penalties you have. How many billions of dollars do you owe in civil penalties for molesting a [46:38] woman in public for doing a whole range of things, of having sex with a porn star on the night [46:45] while your wife was pregnant? I mean, what are you talking about? You have the morals of an alley cat. [46:53] Give me a minute, sir. [46:54] I didn't have sex with a porn star, number one. Number two, that was a case that was started [46:59] and moved. They moved a high-ranking official, a DOJ, into the Manhattan DA's office to start [47:05] that case. That case is going to be appealed and won. We had a very, [47:10] terrible judge, a horrible judge, Democrat. The prosecutor were all high-ranking Democrats, [47:16] appointed people, and both the civil and the criminal. He basically went after his political [47:23] opponent because he thought it was going to damage me. But when the public found out about these [47:27] cases, because they understand it better than he does. He has no idea what these cases are. [47:31] But when they found out about these cases, you know what they did? My poll numbers went up way [47:35] up. You know that because you're reporting it. And we took in more money in the last two weeks [47:40] than we've ever taken in, in the history of any campaign. I don't think any campaign [47:45] has ever taken. Hundreds of millions of dollars came pouring in because the public knows it's a [47:50] scam and it's a guy that's after his political opponent because he can't win fair and square. [47:55] Thank you, President Trump. President Biden, you have said, quote, Donald Trump and his MAGA [47:59] Republicans are determined to destroy American democracy. Do you believe that the tens of [48:05] millions of Americans who are likely to vote for President Trump will be voting against [48:10] American democracy? [48:11] The more they know about what he's done, yes. The more they know about what he's done. [48:17] And there's a lot more coming. He's got a lot of cases down the road coming around. [48:20] He's got a whole range of issues he has to face. I don't know what the juries will do, [48:26] but I do know he has a real problem. [48:28] And so the fact that — could you ever think you heard any president say [48:32] that I'm going to seek retribution? Did you ever hear any president say that [48:36] I thought Hitler had some good ideas? What got me involved to run the first place after [48:40] my son had died? I decided in Iraq, because of Iraq, I said I wasn't going to run again [48:45] until I saw what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia. People coming out of the woods, [48:49] carrying swastikas on torches, torches, and singing the same anti-Semitic bio they sang [48:57] back in Germany. And the young woman got killed. I spoke to the mother, and they asked him, [49:03] they said, what do you think of those people, the people who — the ones who got killed, [49:07] the ones who tried to stop it, and the ones — he said, I think they're [49:10] fine people on both sides. What American president would ever say? Nazis coming out of fields, [49:17] carrying torches, singing the same anti-Semitic bio, carrying swastikas were fine people. [49:24] This is a guy who says Hitler's done some good things. I'd like to know what they are. [49:28] Good things Hitler's done, that's what he said. This guy has no sense of American democracy. [49:33] JOHN YANG President Trump. [49:34] JOE BIDEN Jake, both of you know that story has been totally [49:38] wiped out, because when you see the sentence, it said, [49:42] 100 percent exoneration on this. So, he just keeps it going. He says he ran because of [49:46] Charlottesville. He didn't run because of Charlottesville. He ran because it was his [49:49] last chance. He's not equipped to be president. You know it, and I know it. It's ridiculous. [49:54] We have a debate. We're trying to justify his presidency. His presidency is, without question, [50:01] the worst president, the worst presidency in the history of our country. We shouldn't be having a [50:06] debate about it. There's nothing to debate. He made up the Charlottesville story. And you'll see, [50:12] over the place, every anchor has debunked it, every reasonable anchor has debunked it. [50:17] And just the other day, it came out where it was fully debunked. It's a nonsense story. He knows [50:23] that. And he didn't run because of Charlottesville. He used that as an excuse to run. [50:26] JOE BIDEN President Biden. [50:28] JOE BIDEN And debunked. It happened. All you have to do is listen to what was said at the time, [50:33] and the idea that somehow that's the only reason I ran. I ran because I was worried a guy like this [50:38] guy could get elected. If he thought they were good people coming out of that forest, [50:43] carrying those woods, carrying those torches, then he didn't deserve to be president, [50:48] didn't deserve to be president at all. And the idea that he's talking about all this being [50:53] fabricated, we saw with our own eyes. We saw what happened on January 6th. We saw the people [50:57] breaking through the windows. We saw people occupying their – his own vice president. [51:02] Look, there's a reason why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers refused to endorse him this time. [51:08] His vice president hasn't endorsed him this time. So why? Why? They know him well. [51:13] They serve with him. Why are they not endorsing him? [51:15] JOHN YANG Thank you, President Biden. [51:17] We're going to be right back with more from the CNN presidential debate. [51:20] Welcome back to the CNN presidential debate live from Georgia. Let's talk about persistent [55:12] challenges you both faced in your first terms and you'd certainly face again in a second term. [55:18] President Biden, while Black unemployment dropped to a record low under your presidency, [55:24] Black families still earn far less than white families. [55:28] Black mothers are still – [55:29] still three times more likely to die from pregnancy-related causes, [55:34] and Black Americans are imprisoned at five times the rate of white Americans. [55:39] What do you say to Black voters who are disappointed that you haven't made more progress? [55:43] PRESIDENT BIDEN They acknowledge they made a lot of progress, number one. [55:46] The fact of the matter is, there are more small Black businesses [55:49] that have been started than any time in history. Number two, the wages of Black – Black [55:55] unemployment is the lowest level it's been in a long, long time. Number three, [55:59] we're finding – we're finding housing for Black Americans and dealing with the segregation that [56:06] exists among these corporate – these corporations that collude to keep people out of their houses. [56:13] And in addition to that, we find that the impact of – on the choice that Black families have to [56:23] make relative to childcare is incredibly difficult. When we did the first major piece of legislation in [56:30] the past, I was able to reduce Black childcare costs. I cut them in half – in half. We've got [56:37] to make sure we provide for childcare costs. We've got to make sure – because when you provide those [56:42] childcare protections, you increase economic growth because more people can be in the – in [56:47] the job market. So there's more to be done, considerably more to be done. But we've done [56:52] a great deal so far, and I'm not letting up, and they know it. [56:56] MS. You have 49 seconds left. What do you say to Black voters? [57:00] Who are disappointed with the progress so far? [57:02] GOV. I say I don't blame them for being disappointed. Inflation is still hurting [57:06] them badly. For example, I provided for the idea that any Black family first-time home buyer should [57:13] get a $10,000 tax credit to be able to buy their first home so they can get started. I made sure [57:19] that we're in a situation where all those Black families and those Black individuals who provided [57:24] to have to take out student loans that were ballooning, that if they were engaged in nursing, [57:30] doctor – and anything having to do with volunteerism, if they paid their bills for 10 [57:36] years on their student debt, all the rest is forgiven after 10 years. Millions have benefited [57:41] from that. And we're going to do a whole lot more for Black families. [57:45] MS. Thank you. President Trump? [57:47] GOV. And he caused the inflation. He's blaming inflation. And he's right. It's been [57:52] very bad. He caused the inflation, and it's killing Black families and Hispanic families [57:57] and just about everybody. It's killing people. They can't – by growth, they can't – by growth, [58:00] they can't – by growth, they can't – by growth, they can't – by growth, they can't – by growth, [58:01] they can't – by growth, they can't – by growth, they can't – by growth, they can't – by growth, [58:01] they can't. You look at the cost of food, where it has doubled and tripled and quadrupled. [58:06] They can't live. They're not living anymore. He caused this inflation. I gave him a country with [58:13] essentially no inflation. It was perfect. It was so good. All he had to do was leave it alone. [58:18] He destroyed it with his Green News scam and all of the other – all this money that's being thrown [58:23] out the window. He caused inflation. As sure as you're sitting there, the fact is that his big [58:30] kill on the black people is the millions of people that he's allowed to come in through [58:35] the border. They're taking black jobs now. And it could be 18, it could be 19, and even [58:41] 20 million people. They're taking black jobs, and they're taking Hispanic jobs. And you [58:45] haven't seen it yet, but you're going to see something that's going to be the worst in [58:49] our history. [58:50] Thank you. President Biden? [58:52] There was no inflation when I became president. You know why? The economy was flat on its [58:57] back. 15% unemployment. He decimated the economy, absolutely decimated the economy. That's why [59:04] there was no inflation at the time. There were no jobs. We provided thousands of millions [59:09] of jobs for individuals who were in rural communities, including minority communities. [59:13] We made sure that they have health insurance. We have covered, the ACA has increased, I [59:18] made sure that they're $8,000 per person in a family to get written off for health care. [59:25] But this guy wants to eliminate that. They tried 50 times. [59:27] He wants to get rid of the ACA again, and they're going to try again if they win. [59:31] We find ourselves in a position where the idea that we're not doing anything, we put more police [59:38] on the street than any administration has. He wants to cut the cops. We're providing for equity, [59:45] equity and making sure people have a shot to make it. There's a lot going on. But in inflation, [59:51] he caused it by his tremendous malfeasance in the way he handled the pandemic. [59:57] Thank you. [59:58] Another persistent challenge is the climate crisis. 2023 was the hottest year in recorded [1:00:04] history, and communities across the country are confronting the devastating effects of extreme [1:00:09] heat, intensifying wildfires, stronger hurricanes and rising sea levels. Former President Trump, [1:00:16] you've vowed to end your opponent's climate initiatives, but will you take any action [1:00:21] as president to slow the climate crisis? [1:00:24] Let me just go back to what he said about the police. [1:00:28] How close the police are to him. Almost every police group in the nation from every state [1:00:33] is supporting Donald J. Trump. Almost every police group. And what he's done to the black [1:00:39] population is horrible, including the fact that for 10 years he called them super predators. We [1:00:45] can't in the 1990s. We can't forget that. Super predators was his name. And he called it to him [1:00:50] for 10. And they've taken great offense at it. And now they see it happening. But when they see [1:00:54] what I did for criminal justice reform and for the historically black, black, black, black, black, [1:00:58] black colleges and universities where I funded them and got them all funded and the opportunity [1:01:04] zones with with Tim, as you know, Tim Scott was incredible. He did a great job. Great senator from [1:01:10] South Carolina. He came to me with the idea. And it was a great idea. It's one of the most [1:01:14] successful economic development acts ever in the country. Opportunity zones. And the biggest [1:01:19] beneficiary are blacks. And that's why we have the best numbers with them in maybe ever. They're [1:01:26] saying ever. I read this morning we're ever. [1:01:28] The best numbers. He's lost much of the black population because he's done a horrible job for black [1:01:35] people. He's also done a horrible job for Hispanics. But wait till you see these millions of people [1:01:41] pouring into our country and they're going to take the jobs. And it's already started. And you [1:01:45] haven't seen anything yet. It's a disaster. You've 38 seconds left. President Trump, will you take [1:01:51] any action as president to slow the climate crisis? So I want absolutely immaculate clean water. [1:01:58] Thank you. [1:01:58] And I want absolutely clean air. And we had it. We had H2O. We had the best numbers ever. And we [1:02:07] did. We were using all forms of energy, all forms, everything. And yet during my four years, I had [1:02:14] the best environmental numbers ever. And my top environmental people gave me that statistic just [1:02:20] before I walked on the stage, actually. I don't know where the hell he's been. The idea that [1:02:28] anything he said is true. I've passed the most. [1:02:31] I've passed the most extensive climate change legislation in history, in history. We find [1:02:37] ourselves, and by the way, black colleges, I came up with $15 billion for HBCUs, historic black [1:02:43] universities and colleges, because they don't have the kind of contributors that they have to build [1:02:51] these laboratories and the like. Any black student is capable in college of doing what any white [1:02:55] student can do. They just have the money. But now they'll be able to get those jobs in high tech. [1:02:59] We're in a situation where, you know, we're in a situation where, you know, we're in a situation [1:03:01] where the idea that he is claiming to have done something that had the cleanest water, the cleanest [1:03:08] water, he hadn't done a damn thing with the environment. He, out of the Paris Peace Accord, [1:03:13] Climate Accord, I immediately joined it. Because if we reach 1.5 degrees Celsius at any one point, [1:03:20] there's no way back. The only existential threat to humanity is climate change. And he didn't do [1:03:25] a damn thing about it. He must undo all that I've done. The Paris Accord was going to cost us a [1:03:32] trillion dollars. [1:03:33] And China, nothing. And Russia, nothing. And India, nothing. It was a ripoff of the United [1:03:38] States. And I ended it because I didn't want to waste that money, because they treat us horribly. [1:03:43] We were the only ones. It was costing us money. Nobody else was paying into it. And it was a [1:03:48] disaster. But everything that he said just now — I'll give you an example. I heard him say [1:03:52] before, insulin. I'm the one that got the insulin down for the seniors. I took care of the seniors. [1:03:57] What he's doing is destroying all of our medical programs, because the migrants coming in, [1:04:03] they want everybody. And, look, I have the biggest heart on the stage, I guarantee you that. And I [1:04:08] want to take care of people. But we're destroying our country. They're taking over our schools, [1:04:13] our hospitals, and they're going to be taking over Social Security. He is destroying Social Security, [1:04:18] Medicare and Medicaid. [1:04:19] DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, The idea is that we, in fact, we were the only [1:04:28] ones of consequence who are not—who are not members of the Paris Accord. How can we do anything? [1:04:34] we're not able, the United States can't get this under control. One of the largest polluters in [1:04:39] the world, number one. We're making significant progress. By 2035, we will have cut pollution in [1:04:45] half. We have made significant progress, and we're continuing to make progress. We set up a [1:04:50] climate corps for thousands of young people who learn how to deal with climate, just like the [1:04:55] Peace Corps, and we're moving in directions that are going to significantly change the elements [1:05:01] of cause of pollution. But the idea that he claims that he has the biggest heart up here, [1:05:07] and he's really concerned about pollution and about climate, I've not seen any indication of [1:05:13] that. And by the way, with regard to prescription drugs, one company agreed that they would reduce [1:05:21] the price to $35, which I was calling for, one, voluntarily. I made sure every company in the [1:05:27] world, every pharmaceutical company, cannot have to pay. And by the way, [1:05:31] So every day, millions of Americans struggle just to make ends meet. For many older Americans, [1:05:38] Social Security provides a critical lifeline. President Biden, if nothing is done to Social [1:05:43] Security, seniors will see their benefits cut in just over 10 years. Will you name tonight [1:05:50] one specific step that you're willing to take to keep Social Security solvent? [1:05:54] Yes, make the very wealthy begin to pay their fair share. Right now, everybody making under [1:05:59] $170,000 pays 6% of their income. And that's a very important step. And I think that's a very [1:06:03] important step for the World Health Organization to make sure they're making their income, of their [1:06:06] paycheck every single time they get a paycheck from the time of the first one they get when they're [1:06:09] 18 years old. The idea that they're going to, I'm not, I've been proposing that everybody, they pay, [1:06:15] the millionaires pay 1%, 1%. So no one after, I would not raise the cost of Social Security for [1:06:22] anybody under $400,000. After that, I began to make the wealthy, begin to pay their fair share by [1:06:28] increasing from 1% beyond, to be able to guarantee the program for life. [1:06:33] still have 82 seconds left are there any other measures that you think that would [1:06:37] be able to help keep Social Security solvent or is just is that one enough [1:06:41] well that one enough will keep itself but the biggest thing I'll do if we [1:06:45] defeat this man because he wants to get rid of Social Security he thinks there's [1:06:49] plenty to cut in Social Security he's wanted to cut Social Security and [1:06:52] Medicare both times and that's what and if you look at the program put forward [1:06:57] by the House Republican caucus that he supports is in fact want to cut it as [1:07:03] well the idea that we don't need to protect our seniors is ridiculous we put [1:07:09] we've and by the way American public has greater health care coverage today than [1:07:14] ever before and on the ACA as I said you're in a circumstance where 400,000 [1:07:20] people I mean 40 million people would not have insurance because they have a [1:07:25] pre-existing condition only allows them to have that insurance is the fact that [1:07:29] they in fact are part of the ACA and by the way [1:07:33] the [1:07:33] other thing is we're in a situation where I talk about education for black [1:07:37] communities I've raised the number the amount of money for Pell grants another [1:07:42] $8,000 anybody making under $70,000 you're gonna be able to get $15,000 [1:07:49] toward the tuition thank you president Biden president Trump so I've dealt with [1:07:55] politicians all my life I've been on this side of the equation for the last [1:08:00] eight years I've never seen a situation where I've been on the side of the equation for the last eight years I've never seen [1:08:03] anybody lie like this guy he lies I've never seen if he could look you in the [1:08:07] face so but so many other things too and we mentioned the laptop we mentioned [1:08:12] Russia Russia Russia Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine if everything he does is a lie [1:08:17] it's misinformation and disinformation the losers and suckers story that he [1:08:22] made up it's a total lie on the military it's a disgrace but Social Security he's [1:08:28] destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and they're [1:08:32] putting them on to Social Security and they're putting them on to Social [1:08:33] Security and they're putting them on to Social Security and they're putting them on to Social [1:08:34] Security and they're putting them on to Social Security and they're putting them on to Medicare [1:08:35] Medicare they're putting them in our hospitals they're taking the place of [1:08:39] our citizens there what they're doing to the VA to our veterans is unbelievable [1:08:44] our veterans are living in the street and these people are living in luxury [1:08:47] hotels he doesn't know what he's doing and it's really coming back I've never [1:08:52] seen such anger in our country before president Biden the idea veterans are [1:08:58] not being taken care of I told you before [1:09:00] by the way when I said suckers and losers he said he acknowledged [1:09:04] after that he fired that general that general got fired because he's the one [1:09:09] that acknowledged that that's what he said he was the one standing with Trump [1:09:12] when he said it number one number two the idea that we're going to be in a [1:09:17] situation where all these millions and millions of way talks about it illegal [1:09:22] aliens are coming into the country and taking away our jobs there's a reason [1:09:26] why we have the fastest growing economy in the world the reason why we had most [1:09:30] successful economy in the world we're doing better than any other nation in [1:09:34] the world and by the way those 15 Nobel Laureates he talked about being phony [1:09:39] those 15 Nobel Laureates economists they all said that if Trump is reelected we're [1:09:44] elected to have a recession and and inflation is going to increase and go up [1:09:48] and by the way worst president history 159 presidential scholars voted him the [1:09:53] worst president in the history of the United States of America president Biden [1:09:57] thank you so much let's turn to the cost of childcare which many American [1:10:00] families struggle to afford president Trump both you and President Biden have [1:10:04] tried to address this issue but the average cost of child care in this [1:10:08] country has risen to more than eleven thousand dollars a year per child for [1:10:11] many families the cost of child care for two children is more than their rent in [1:10:17] your second term what would you do to make child care more affordable just to [1:10:22] go back the general got fired because he was no good and if he said that that's [1:10:27] why he made it up but we have 19 people that said I didn't say it and they're [1:10:31] very highly respected much more so than him the other thing is he doesn't fire [1:10:36] people he never fired people I've never seen him fire anybody I did fire a lot [1:10:41] I fired Comey because he was no good I fired a lot of the top people at the [1:10:44] FBI drained the swamp they were no good not easy to fire people you'd pay a [1:10:48] price for it but they were no good I inherited these people I didn't put him [1:10:51] I didn't put Comey there he was no good I fired him this guy hasn't fired [1:10:56] anybody he never fires he should have fired every military man that was [1:11:00] involved with that Afghan the Afghanistan uh horror show the most embarrassing [1:11:07] history of our country he didn't fire did you fire anybody did you fire anybody [1:11:11] that's on the border that's allowed us to have the worst border in the history [1:11:15] of the world did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people many from [1:11:19] prisons many from from mental institutions did you fire anybody that [1:11:24] allowed our country to be destroyed Joe our country is being destroyed as you [1:11:29] and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate this shouldn't be a [1:11:33] debate he is the worst president he just said about me because I said it [1:11:37] uh but look he's the worst president in the history of our country he's [1:11:41] destroyed our country now all of a sudden he's trying to get a little tough [1:11:44] on the border he come out came out with a nothing a nothing deal and it reduced [1:11:49] it a little bit a little bit like this much it's insignificant he wants open [1:11:54] borders he wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up [1:11:58] those people as voters and I don't think we just can't let it happen if he wins [1:12:04] this election our country doesn't have a [1:12:07] chance not even a chance of coming out of this rut we probably won't have a [1:12:12] country left anymore that's how bad it is he is the worst in history by far [1:12:16] thank you President Trump President Biden we are the most admired country in the [1:12:20] world with the United States of America there's nothing beyond our capacity we [1:12:25] have the finest military in the history of the world the finest in the history [1:12:28] of the world no one thinks we're weak no one wants to screw around with us nobody [1:12:33] number one number two the idea that we're [1:12:37] talking about worst presidents I wasn't joking look it up or go online 159 or 58 [1:12:44] don't hold me the exact number presidential historians they've had meetings and they [1:12:48] voted who's the worst president in American history one through best to worst they said [1:12:53] he was the worst in all of American history that's a fact that's not a that's not conjecture [1:12:59] he can argue they're wrong but that's what they voted the idea that he is knowing doing [1:13:04] anything to deal with child care he did [1:13:07] for virtually nothing to child care we should significantly increase the child [1:13:11] care tax credit we should significantly increase the availability of women and [1:13:15] men or single parents to be able to go back to work and we should encourage [1:13:20] businesses to hold to have thank you President Biden President Trump the [1:13:24] question was about what would you do to make child care more affordable if you [1:13:27] want to take your minute just you understand we have polling we have other [1:13:31] things that do they rate him the worst because what he's done is so bad and [1:13:36] they rate me I'll show you I will show you [1:13:38] and they rate me one of the best okay and if I'm given another four years I will be the best I [1:13:44] think I'll be the best nobody's ever created an economy like us nobody ever cut taxes like us he's [1:13:51] the only one I know he wants to raise your taxes by four times he wants to raise everybody's taxes [1:13:56] by four times he wants the Trump tax cuts to expire so everybody including the two of you are [1:14:02] going to pay four to five times nobody ever heard of this before all my life I'd grow up and I see [1:14:08] cutting taxes when we cut taxes as I said we did more business Apple and all these [1:14:13] companies they were bringing money back into our country the worst president in history by [1:14:19] far and everybody knows it President Biden look the fact of the matter is that he's dead wrong [1:14:24] about he's increased the he's increased he will increase the uh taxes on middle class people I [1:14:32] said I'd never raised the tax upon anybody I'm making less than 400 000 I didn't but this tariff [1:14:38] is everything coming into the country you know what the economists say that's going to cost the [1:14:42] average American 2 500 a year more because they're going to have to pay the difference in food and all [1:14:50] the things that are very important number two he's in a situation where he talks about how he has not [1:14:57] raised he's he's somehow helped the middle class middle class have been devastated by you now you [1:15:04] want a new tax cut of five trillion dollars over the next 10 years which is going to fundamentally [1:15:08] bankrupt the country you had the largest deficit of any president of American history number one [1:15:13] number two you have not in fact made any contact any any any progress with China we are the lowest [1:15:22] trade deficit with China since 2010. thank you president thank you president but let's let's [1:15:28] discuss an epidemic impacting millions of Americans that both of you have made a top [1:15:32] priority in your first term the opioid crisis and for both of you uh the number of over [1:15:38] overdose deaths in this country has gone up under your term it went up under your term it has gone [1:15:44] up a former president Trump despite the efforts that both of you have made more than a hundred [1:15:49] thousand Americans are dying from overdoses every year primarily from fentanyl and other opioids [1:15:53] what will you do to help Americans right now in the throes of addiction who are struggling to get [1:15:59] the treatment they need to finish up we now have the largest deficit in the history of our country [1:16:06] under the sky we have the largest deficit with China [1:16:10] he's paid by China he's a Manchurian candidate he gets money from China we have so I think he's [1:16:15] afraid to deal with him or something but do you notice he never took out my tariffs because we [1:16:19] bring in so much money with the tariffs that I imposed on China he never took him away he can't [1:16:24] because it's too much money it's tremendous and we saved our steel Industries and there was more [1:16:29] to come but he hasn't done that but he hasn't cut the tariffs because he can't because it's too much [1:16:34] money but he's got the largest deficit in the history of our country and he's got the worst [1:16:40] the worst situation with China China's going to own us if you keep allowing them to do what [1:16:46] they're doing to us as a country they are killing us as a country Joe and you can't let that happen [1:16:51] you're destroying our country so President Trump you have 67 seconds left the question [1:16:56] was what are you going to do to help Americans in the throes of addiction right now who are [1:17:00] struggling to get the treatment they need Jake we're doing very well at addiction until the [1:17:05] covet came along we had the two and a half almost three years of like nobody's ever had before any [1:17:11] every way. And then we had to get tough. And it was the drugs pouring across the border [1:17:16] where it started to increase. We got great equipment. We bought the certain dog. That's [1:17:22] the most incredible thing that you've ever seen, the way they can spot it. We did a lot. And we [1:17:27] had we were getting very low numbers, very, very low numbers. Then he came along. The numbers. Have [1:17:33] you seen the numbers now? It's not only the 18 million people that I believe is even low because [1:17:38] they got a ways they don't even talk about got a ways. But the numbers of the amount of drugs and [1:17:44] human trafficking in women coming across our border, the worst thing I've ever seen at numbers [1:17:51] that nobody's ever seen under him because the border is so bad. But the number of drugs coming [1:17:57] across our border now is is the largest we've ever had by far. President Trump. Thank you, [1:18:01] President Biden. Fentanyl and the byproducts of fentanyl went down for a while. And I wanted to [1:18:07] make sure we use the machinery. [1:18:09] We can detect fentanyl, these big machines that roll over everything that comes across the border. [1:18:14] And it costs a lot of money. That was part of this deal we put together. It's bipartisan deal. [1:18:19] More fentanyl machines, more more be able to detect drugs, more more numbers of of agents, more [1:18:26] numbers of all the people at the border. And when we had that deal done, he when he called his [1:18:33] Republican colleagues and don't do it. It's going to hurt me politically. He never argued. It's not [1:18:38] a good bill. [1:18:38] It's a really good bill. We need those machines. We need those machines. And we're coming down very [1:18:44] hard in every country in Asia in terms of precursors for fentanyl. And Mexico is working with us to make [1:18:50] sure they don't have the technology to be able to put it together. That's what we have to do. We need [1:18:55] those machines. [1:18:56] Thank you, President Biden, President Trump. And again, the question is about Americans in the [1:19:01] throes of addiction right now struggling to get the treatment they need this because this does [1:19:05] pertain to it. He ended remain in Mexico. [1:19:09] He ended catch and release. I made it catch and release in Mexico, not catch and release here. We [1:19:14] had so many things that we had done hard negotiations with Mexico, and I got it all for [1:19:19] nothing. It's just like when he have a hostage. We always pay $6 billion for every time we says a [1:19:24] hostage. Now we have a hostage, a Wall Street Journal reporter, I think a good guy. And he's [1:19:31] over there because Putin is laughing at this guy probably asking for billions of dollars for the [1:19:37] reporter. I will have him out very quickly. [1:19:40] As soon as I take office before I take office, I said by literally as soon as I win the election, I [1:19:47] will have that reporter out. He should have had him out a long time ago. But Putin's probably asking [1:19:52] for billions and billions of dollars because this guy pays it every time. We had two cases. We paid [1:19:57] $6 billion for five people. I got 58 people out and I paid essentially nothing. [1:20:02] Thank you, President Trump. Dana. [1:20:04] Let's turn to concerns that voters have about each of you. President Biden, you would be 86. [1:20:11] At the end of your second term, how do you address concerns about your capability to handle the [1:20:18] toughest job in the world well into your 80s? Well, first of all, I spent half my career [1:20:25] being criticized, being the youngest person in politics. I was the second youngest person ever [1:20:31] elected to the United States Senate. And now I'm the oldest. This guy's three years younger and a [1:20:35] lot less competent. I think that just look at the record. Look at what I've done. Look how I've [1:20:40] turned around the horrible situation he left me. [1:20:42] As I said, 50 million new jobs, 800,000 manufacturing jobs, more investment in America, [1:20:47] over billions of dollars in private investment in enterprises that we are growing. By the way, [1:20:55] we brought an awful lot of people, the whole idea of computer chips. We used to have 40% of [1:21:01] the market. We invented those chips and we lost it because he was sending people to find the cheapest [1:21:08] jobs overseas and to bring home a product. So I went and I went to [1:21:12] South Korea. I convinced Samsung to invest billions of dollars here in the United States. [1:21:17] And guess what? Those fabs they call to build these chips, those fabs pay over $100,000. You [1:21:26] don't need a college degree for them. And there's billions, about $40 billion already being invested [1:21:32] and being built right now in the United States, creating significant jobs for Americans from all [1:21:38] over the world. President Biden, you have 40 seconds left. Would you like to add anything? [1:21:42] I would. The idea that somehow we are this failing country. I've never heard a president talk like [1:21:49] this before. We're the envy of the world. Name me a single major country president who wouldn't trade [1:21:57] places with the United States of America for all our problems and all our opportunities. We're the [1:22:02] most progressive country in the world in getting things done. We're the strongest country in the [1:22:06] world. We're a country in the world who keeps our word and everybody trusts us, all of our allies, [1:22:11] and our [1:22:13] people. Those who he coddles up to, from Kim Jong-un, who he sends love letters to, and Putin, [1:22:18] et cetera, they don't want to screw around with us. [1:22:20] Thank you. Former President Trump, to follow up, you would be 82 at the end of your second term. [1:22:27] What do you say to voters who have concerns about your capabilities to serve? [1:22:31] Well, I took two tests, cognitive tests. I aced them, both of them, as you know. We made it [1:22:37] public. He took none. I'd like to see him take one, just one, a real easy one. If I go through [1:22:41] the first five questions, he couldn't do it. [1:22:44] I took two cognitive tests. I took physical exams every year. And, you know, we knock on wood, [1:22:50] wherever we may have wood, that I'm in very good health. I just won two club championships, [1:22:55] not even senior, two regular club championships. To do that, you have to be quite smart, [1:23:00] and you have to be able to hit the ball a long way. And I do it. He doesn't do it. He can't hit [1:23:04] a ball 50 yards. He challenged me to a golf match. He can't hit a ball 50 yards. I think [1:23:09] I'm in very good shape. I feel that I'm as in good a shape as I was 25, 30 years ago. [1:23:14] Actually, I'm probably a little bit lighter, but I'm in as good a shape as I was years ago. [1:23:20] I feel very good. I feel the same. But I took, I was willing to take a cognitive test. And you [1:23:24] know what? If I didn't do well, I aced him. Dr. Ronny Jackson, who's a great guy when he was [1:23:30] White House doctor. And then I took another one, a similar one. And both, one of them said they'd [1:23:35] never seen anybody ace him. Thank you. President Biden? You can see he is six foot five and only [1:23:41] 223 pounds, or 235 pounds. [1:23:45] You said six, four, 200. Well, anyway, that's what you're, anyway, just take a look at what he [1:23:51] says he is and take a look at what he is. Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him. [1:23:56] The reason I got my handicap, which when I was vice president, down to a six. And by the way, [1:24:04] I told you before, I'm happy to play golf if you carry your own bag. Think you can do it? [1:24:11] He's a six handicap of all. [1:24:13] I was an eight handicap. Eight. But I have, you know how many? [1:24:18] I've seen you swing. [1:24:19] No, you swing. [1:24:20] Okay, let's not act like children. [1:24:21] President Trump, we're going to do it again. [1:24:23] Let's not act like children. [1:24:25] To a specific concern that voters have about you. Will you pledge tonight that once all legal [1:24:32] challenges have been exhausted, that you will accept the results of this election, regardless [1:24:37] of who wins, and you will say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable? [1:24:45] Well, I shouldn't have to say that, but of course I believe that. It's totally unacceptable. [1:24:50] And if you would say that, I would say, I would say, I would say, I would say, I would say, [1:24:50] I would say it with snitch fall. [1:24:51] Don't judge it. [1:24:52] You would see my statements that I made on Twitter at the time and also my statement [1:24:55] that I made in the Rose Garden, you would say its one of the strongest [1:24:58] statements you've ever seen in addition to the speech I made in front of [1:25:02] I believe the largest crowd I've ever spoken to and I will tell you, nobody ever talks about [1:25:06] that They talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the Capitol and in many [1:25:11] cases were ushered in by the police and as Nancy Pelosi said, it was her responsibility, [1:25:16] not mine. She said that loud and clear. [1:25:18] But the answer is, [1:25:20] is fair, free, and I want that more than anybody. [1:25:23] And I'll tell you something. [1:25:25] I wish he was a great president, [1:25:26] because I wouldn't be here right now. [1:25:28] I'd be at one of my many places enjoying myself. [1:25:32] I wouldn't be under indictment, [1:25:33] because I wouldn't have been his political, you know, opponent. [1:25:37] Because he indicted me because I was his opponent. [1:25:40] I wish he was a great president. [1:25:42] I would rather have that. [1:25:44] I wouldn't be here. I don't mind being here. [1:25:46] But the only reason I'm here is he's so bad as a president [1:25:49] that I'm going to make America great again. [1:25:51] We're going to make America great again. [1:25:54] We're a failing nation right now. [1:25:55] We're a seriously failing nation. [1:25:57] And we're a failing nation because of him. [1:26:00] His policies are so bad. [1:26:02] His military policies are insane. [1:26:06] They're insane. [1:26:07] These are wars that will never end with him. [1:26:10] He will drive us into World War III, [1:26:11] and we're closer to World War III than anybody can imagine. [1:26:15] We are very, very close to World War III, [1:26:18] and he's driving us there. [1:26:19] And Kim Jong-un and President Xi of China, [1:26:23] Kim Jong-un of North Korea, all of these, Putin, [1:26:26] they don't respect him. [1:26:27] They don't fear him. [1:26:29] They have nothing going with this gentleman, [1:26:31] and he's going to drive us into World War III. [1:26:35] You want a World War III, let him follow and win [1:26:39] and let Putin say, do what you want, NATO. [1:26:41] Just do what you want. [1:26:43] There's a thing called Article 5. [1:26:45] An attack on one is an attack on all, a required response. [1:26:49] The idea, the idea. [1:26:50] I can't tell you. [1:26:51] I can't think of a single major leader in the world [1:26:54] who wouldn't trade places with the job I've done [1:26:57] and what they've done, because we are a powerful nation. [1:27:00] We have wonderful peace because of the people, [1:27:02] not me, it's because of the American people. [1:27:04] They're capable of anything, [1:27:05] and they step up when they're needed. [1:27:06] And right now, we're needed. [1:27:08] We're needed to protect the world [1:27:10] because our own safety is at stake. [1:27:12] And again, you want to have a war, [1:27:14] just let Putin go ahead and take Kyiv, [1:27:16] make sure they move on, see what happens in Poland, Hungary, [1:27:20] and other places along that border. [1:27:22] Then you have a war. [1:27:24] President Trump, as I come back to you for a follow-up, [1:27:27] the question was, will you accept the results [1:27:30] of this election regardless of who wins? [1:27:33] Just to finish what he said, if I might. [1:27:37] Russia, they took a lot of land from Bush. [1:27:40] They took a lot of land from Obama and Biden. [1:27:44] They took no land, nothing from Trump, nothing. [1:27:47] He knew not to do it. [1:27:49] He's not going to play games with me. [1:27:50] He knew that. [1:27:51] I got along with him very well, but he knew not to play games. [1:27:53] He took nothing from me. [1:27:56] But now he's going to take the whole thing [1:27:58] from this man right here. [1:28:00] That's a war that should have never started. [1:28:02] It would have never started ever with me. [1:28:06] And he's going to take Ukraine. [1:28:08] And, you know, you asked me a question before, [1:28:10] would you do this with... [1:28:11] He's got us in such a bad position right now [1:28:13] with Ukraine and Russia [1:28:16] because Ukraine's not winning that war. [1:28:18] He said, I will never settle until such time. [1:28:21] They're running out of people. They're running out of soldiers. [1:28:23] They've lost so many people. It's so sad. [1:28:26] They've lost so many people, [1:28:27] and they've lost those [1:28:28] largest cities with the Golden Domes [1:28:30] that are 1,000 years old, [1:28:32] all because of him and stupid decisions. [1:28:35] Russia would have never attacked if I were president. [1:28:37] The question was, will you accept [1:28:39] the results of the election, [1:28:41] regardless of who wins, yes or no, please? [1:28:44] If it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely. [1:28:48] I would have much rather accepted these, [1:28:51] but the fraud and everything else was ridiculous. [1:28:55] And if you want, we'll have a news conference on it [1:28:57] in a week, [1:28:58] or we'll have another one of these in a week. [1:29:00] But I will absolutely... [1:29:02] There's nothing I'd rather do. [1:29:04] It would be much easier for me to do that [1:29:07] than I'm running again. [1:29:09] I wasn't really going to run [1:29:11] until I saw the horrible job he did. [1:29:14] He's destroying our country. [1:29:15] I would be very happy to be someplace else, [1:29:18] in a nice location someplace. [1:29:20] And again, no indictments, no political opponent stuff, [1:29:24] because it's the only way he thinks he can win. [1:29:26] But unfortunately, it's driven up my number. [1:29:28] It's driven up my numbers and driven up to a very high level, [1:29:30] because the people understand it. [1:29:33] Let's see what your numbers are when this election is over. [1:29:36] Let's see. [1:29:37] You're a whiner. [1:29:38] When you lost the first time, you continued. [1:29:41] You appealed and appealed to courts all across the country. [1:29:44] Not one single court in America said any of your claims [1:29:48] had any merit, state or local, none. [1:29:52] But you continue to provoke this lie [1:29:55] about somehow there's all this misrepresentation, [1:29:58] all this stealing. [1:29:59] There's no evidence of that at all. [1:30:02] And I tell you what, I doubt whether you'll accept it, [1:30:04] because you're such a whiner. [1:30:06] The idea if you lose again, you accepting anything, [1:30:09] you can't stand the loss. [1:30:10] Something snapped in you when you lost the last time. [1:30:14] We'll be right back with more [1:30:16] from the CNN presidential debate, live from Georgia. [1:30:20] Now time for the candidates to deliver their closing statements [1:34:02] as predetermined by a coin toss. [1:34:05] We're going to begin with you, President Biden. [1:34:07] You have two minutes. [1:34:11] We've made significant progress [1:34:14] from the debacle that was left by President Trump [1:34:17] in his last term. [1:34:20] We find ourselves in a situation where, number one, [1:34:23] we have to make sure that we have a fair tax system. [1:34:26] I ask anyone out there in the audience, [1:34:28] or anyone out watching this debate, [1:34:31] do you think the tax system is fair? [1:34:33] The fact is that I said nobody would make it under $400,000, [1:34:37] had a single penny increase in their taxes, [1:34:39] and will not. [1:34:40] And if I'm reelected, that will be the case again. [1:34:43] But this guy has increased your taxes. [1:34:45] He's increased your taxes because of the deficit, number one. [1:34:48] He's increased inflation because of the debacle he left [1:34:51] after the way he handled the pandemic. [1:34:54] And he finds himself in a position [1:34:55] where he now wants to tax you more by putting a 10% tariff [1:34:59] on everything that comes into the United States of America. [1:35:02] What I did, when, for example, he wants to get rid of the ability [1:35:07] of Medicare for the ability for us to be able to negotiate drug [1:35:14] prices with a big pharma company. [1:35:16] Well, guess what? [1:35:18] We got it down to $35 for insulin instead of $400. [1:35:24] No more than $2,000 for every senior, [1:35:27] no matter how much prescription they need. [1:35:31] You know what that did? [1:35:32] That reduced the federal debt by $160 billion over 10 years [1:35:38] because the government don't have to pay the exorbitant prices. [1:35:41] I'm going to make that available to every senior all along [1:35:46] or it's happening now. [1:35:47] And everybody in America, he wants to get rid of that. [1:35:50] I'm going to make sure that we have childcare. [1:35:53] We're going to significantly increase the credits [1:35:55] that people have for childcare. [1:35:57] I'm going to make sure we do something about what we're doing [1:36:00] on lead pipes and all the things that are causing health problems [1:36:04] for people across the country. [1:36:06] We're going to continue to fight to bring down inflation [1:36:08] and give people a break. [1:36:10] Thank you, President Biden. [1:36:11] President Trump, you now have two minutes [1:36:12] for your closing statement. [1:36:14] Like so many politicians, this man is just a complainant. [1:36:16] He said we want to do this, we want to do that, [1:36:19] we want to get rid of this tax, that tax. [1:36:21] But he doesn't do anything. [1:36:23] All he does is make our country unsafe [1:36:26] by allowing millions and millions of people to pour in. [1:36:29] Our military doesn't respect him. [1:36:31] We look like fools in Afghanistan. [1:36:33] We didn't stop Israel. [1:36:35] It was such a horrible thing that would have never happened. [1:36:37] It should have never happened. [1:36:39] Iran was broke. [1:36:40] Anybody that did business with Iran, including China, [1:36:43] they couldn't do business with the United States. [1:36:45] They all passed. [1:36:46] Iran was broke. [1:36:47] They had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah. [1:36:49] For terror, no money whatsoever. [1:36:51] Again, Ukraine should have never happened. [1:36:54] He talks about all this stuff, but he didn't do it. [1:36:56] For three and a half years, we're living in hell. [1:36:58] We have the Palestinians and we have everybody else [1:37:01] rioting all over the place. [1:37:03] You talk about Charlottesville. [1:37:04] This is 100 times Charlottesville, [1:37:06] 1,000 times Charlottesville. [1:37:08] The whole country is exploding because of you [1:37:10] because they don't respect you, [1:37:12] and they have to respect their president, [1:37:14] and they don't respect you throughout the world. [1:37:17] What we did was incredible. [1:37:19] We rebuilt the military. [1:37:21] We got the largest tax cut in history, [1:37:23] the largest regulation cut in history. [1:37:25] The reason he's got jobs is because I cut the regulations [1:37:28] that gave jobs, [1:37:29] but he's putting a lot of those regulations back on. [1:37:32] All of the things that we've done, [1:37:34] nobody's ever seen anything like it, [1:37:36] even from a medical standpoint, right to try. [1:37:38] Well, we can try space-age materials [1:37:40] instead of going to Asia or going to Europe [1:37:43] and trying to get when you're terminally ill. [1:37:45] Now you can go and you can get something. [1:37:47] You sign a document. [1:37:48] They've been trying to get it for 42 years. [1:37:51] But, you know, what we did for the military [1:37:53] was incredible choice for our soldiers, [1:37:55] where our soldiers, [1:37:56] instead of waiting for three months to see a doctor, [1:37:59] can go out and get themselves fixed up [1:38:02] and readied up and take care of themselves, [1:38:04] and they're living. [1:38:05] And that's why I had the highest approval rating [1:38:07] in the history of the VA. [1:38:09] So all of these things. [1:38:10] We're in a failing nation, [1:38:11] but it's not going to be failing anymore. [1:38:13] We're going to make it great again. [1:38:14] Thank you, former President Trump, President Biden.