Dems eye 2028 blowout after indies rebuke Trump & GOP

[0:00] So there's new data just in showing just how much independence broke for Democrats and critical [0:06] races across the country this midterm election. CNN's Harry Enten has so much more for you on [0:11] this. Show me, tell me, what do you see? You know, President Trump going into this election, [0:16] right? Oh, I'm going to attend those rallies. The MAGA base is with me. But he completely forgot [0:21] about the part of the electorate that determines elections, and that is independence, those in [0:25] the center of the electorate. But you know what? They didn't forget about President Trump, [0:29] and they went against his Republican Party in historic numbers. I mean, just take a look at [0:33] this. The 2026 National House vote among independents. Democrats won them by 20 points. By 20 points. [0:39] I went back through all the exit and voter poll data that I could find since we started doing this back [0:45] in the 70s. This 20-point margin is the largest that we have ever seen backing Democrats. So [0:53] President Trump might have been focused on MAGA, but the senator of the electorate, they were focused [0:57] on electing Democrats to a historic degree. Independence, when it came to where they went, [1:02] how they voted, how much did Trump factor into it? I mean, it's a huge factor. Look at this. [1:07] Look at this. Yeah. President Trump had the worst net approval rating in midterm history. Minus 40 [1:14] points for Donald John Trump, as I spell it out here. Look at that. Minus 40 points down there in the [1:22] ocean, down there with Jacques Cousteau, down there with the Little Mermaid, down there with the Titanic, [1:27] way underwater. And this helped drive this historic Democratic wave among independents. [1:35] Historically unpopular president with independents leads to a historically strong performance [1:39] among the opposition party when it comes to this midterm election. [1:43] Independents decide elections. We talk about this all the time, especially when we look at [1:48] presidential elections. But what role did they play in Senate races? Yeah. I mean, I think this is the [1:54] name of the game right here, right? President Trump won independence in all three of these states back [1:59] in 2024. And of course, he won all three of these states. George and John Ossoff, Adam Hamilton in [2:05] Kansas. James Tallarico in Texas. And then Democrats put up historically strong performances with [2:11] independents this midterm election. Look at this. Plus 34 for John Ossoff. Plus 33 for Adam [2:16] Hamilton. Plus 31 for James Tallarico. Those historic strong performances among independents allowed them [2:22] to capture states in the case of Kansas, which they hadn't done since 1932, and Texas, which they [2:27] hadn't done since 1988, because these Democratic candidates were able to flip what had been red [2:34] leaning independent voters and made them not just blue, but deep dark blue. [2:39] Where does this leave Republicans looking towards 2028 per the prediction markets? [2:45] Yeah. So, you know, you take a look at these election results and you see the independents. [2:49] How about the chance that Democrats win the presidency, the House and the Senate? [2:54] Ergo, a historic flip. Well, what are we talking about? Well, a little bit over a month ago, [2:59] what was it? 48% chance that Democrats would, in fact, have that historic flip. But now, [3:04] look at that. That number is well north of 50%. So what we're seeing is a lot of the folks who are [3:09] putting their money where their mouths are, they are seeing what we saw on election day, [3:14] a historically strong performance for Democrats. And they're just going, especially given the decisions [3:18] that President Trump is making, why is anything really going to change? Of course, [3:22] we still have about two years time, but at this point, a slight little foot on the scale [3:27] for the left part of our political electorate. Stand by to stand by. Stand by to stand by. [3:32] Thank you, Harry. Thank you. Much more news ahead. Stay with us. [3:36] Medicare for all has been a big platform of yours that you have pushed and you've said that you want [3:40] to get it passed. You've said that you would even call it Trump care for all if that's what it took. [3:45] Donald, if you're watching, we can put your name on it. I know you like to put your name on stuff. [3:48] You can finally meet the unmet promise in America to guarantee everybody health care. [3:53] So it's on the table if you want to do it. But are you being serious or are you being funny? [3:56] No, I'm absolutely serious. Like, I don't. You would totally vote for that. [3:59] I don't care what it's called. I want people to have health care in this country. Really. [4:02] El-Sayed followed up with a mock Trump care card decked in gold and bearing the president's [4:08] well-known signature. His message, Donald, this is on the table. We are having a new crop of Democrats [4:15] that are using the same tactics that Donald Trump used to grab the attention, to make news, [4:21] to get people to focus on their agenda, to message the things that they want. Bill, I mean. [4:27] It's also about affordability. This is really interesting. You know, Momdani ran on affordability, [4:33] created this interesting relationship with Trump and literally in a different way said to Trump, [4:38] I want to do this huge affordable housing development in New York and we haven't named it yet. [4:43] That when he presented it to Trump, he literally said out loud, we haven't named it yet and we need [4:48] federal help. I think it is fascinating that the folks who are really owning the affordability [4:53] agenda, and El-Sayed certainly is one of them, are not interested in the fight with Trump for the [4:59] theater or for the ideology or they're not talking about the danger to democracy, which I'm not [5:04] belittling is somewhat real. They're going at the thing the American people care about and the thing [5:09] the American people are feeling, which is the cost of living and the challenges of making ends meet. [5:13] And I think this is actually a great evolution for the Democratic Party. It's populist. [5:17] It's energetic. It's kitchen table. It's fun. But it's also saying we're not going down any of [5:23] those sideshow roads. We're coming right at you. And he dares him to take health care. [5:27] All right. Peter looks like he's going to have a heart attack. But before he does, [5:32] but before he does, I actually want to play one more cut from this excellent interview that Laila [5:36] Faddle of NPR of Abdul El-Sayed. And she asked him, I think, quite well, you know, [5:51] you have called Trump an idiot. You obviously don't like him. It's been very hostile. So why is why do [5:59] you think you're going to have any sway with him if you've been standing up to him? And this is what he [6:02] said. If he has a neat trick, it's that he has fully succumbed to his narcissism and is very good [6:09] at getting attention, which means every day he tees off on me. He gives me more attention. [6:13] He said he's going to be Mr. Vito, but he also has said, oh, I'll work with the Democrats. [6:17] I mean, do you think this could just push him away, this type of approach, calling him dumb and [6:23] unserious? No, because he cannot stand, he cannot stand being disliked. I'm going to say this and [6:31] and it's probably going to reach his desk and he won't be able to resist it. He wants me to like [6:35] him. So you think he wants you to like him? Call my office. We can we can have a meeting. [6:41] OK, just on the affordability component. Yes, Democratic messaging on affordability is great. [6:45] I mean, the reason why Mamdani wanted to suck up. No, I shouldn't say suck up to Trump. Trump [6:49] objectively likes and respects Mamdani. He's made a very talented political guy. He likes people who he [6:55] looks at and says, like, that guy does a, you know, whatever the policy aside, like he can respect that. [7:01] But Mamdani wanted two billion dollars from the federal government. It's not affordable housing [7:04] when they're costing upwards of a million dollars a unit. Right. So all of this stuff where it's [7:08] affordability. No, no, it's just increasing government debts and deficits and shifting it [7:13] to different elements of the taxpayer base to basically launder funds through a complicated [7:17] NGO and donor network. Wait, do you think it was a good tactic? I think it's a great tactic. [7:21] It's very smart. And I think Abdul's tactic is also very smart. I mean, the messaging on it is great. [7:25] When you say we'll get to the substance of it, there's no substance. And this isn't going to get 50 votes [7:30] in the Senate. But it is smart. And we're talking about it right now. And it's the type of things [7:33] that Democrats should be doing that any politician should be doing. So I can respect the hell out of [7:38] that. And he responds to him in the way that, you know, if you dish it, then you have to be able [7:41] to take it back. He is also somebody who is very adept to psychoanalysis. He knows internally how [7:49] Trump is going to react because, one, this is how Trump always reacts, but also because he gets a high [7:53] off of these types of things. Or El Sayed, one of the things that he really wants to do, [7:57] he's a public health professional. This has been his life's work. He wants to get Medicare for all [8:02] across the aisle. I believe him. He doesn't care whether you call it Trump. You can call it whatever [8:06] the hell you want to call it. At the end of the day, he wants to be able to provide it for the [8:09] people. That was one of the core things he ran on. Yes, Americans care about affordability. [8:13] And once those big, beautiful bill act cuts come in, into Medicaid, into rural hospitals, [8:18] into the very hospitals across the South in particular, where a lot of Trump voters were [8:22] in 2024 and 2020 and in 2020 and 2016, those are going to hit really hard. The one thing that I [8:29] think came across in this presidential election that I think was very important was that a lot [8:33] of the issues that people considered ultra-progressivism and crazy in the weeds just a few [8:36] years ago no longer seem as such because a lot of people need a lot of help right now. [8:40] I don't like what Overton windows shift, by the way. That's not a good thing, right? [8:43] The Overton window has shifted on the definition of anti-Semitism, I think, to the detriment of this [8:47] country. The Overton window has shifted on what is, like, acceptable political speech in both [8:51] directions, and that is bad. And I don't like that the Overton window has shifted. Yes, we used to [8:55] think socialism was crazy, and now all the kids want socialism because they're frustrated and pissed [8:59] off, and I get that. Well, they're unemployed, and they're impoverished, and they can't afford housing. [9:03] I think that... Hold on, Anna. [9:06] Listen, Abdul El-Sayed is such a master at media and taunting Trump, and I almost think it's like game [9:15] respects game. So yeah, okay, so he's called Donald Trump dumb. Well, Donald Trump called him a jihadist. [9:22] So I think Abdul El-Sayed is well entitled to call Trump dumb. But he's also, right, preying on the [9:30] things, on Trump's characteristics. He loves everything old. He loves to name everything about [9:35] himself. He has this thing with Obama, right, and Obamacare. Obama lives rent-free in Trump's head. [9:44] So let's do this. So, you know, I think he's kind of bringing all of this up, and it's rather fun, and I think [9:51] you're going to see in Abdul El-Sayed in these next two years while Trump is in office, the most vocal, [9:57] youthful, energetic, and effective spokesperson using taunts, and using modern lingo, and he being so adept at [10:07] social media to get to Trump, to poke Trump, and I'm enjoying it immensely.