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"C-SPAN.org. We take you live now to the Pentagon for a press briefing with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Koehn. You're watching live coverage here on C-SPAN 2. Well, over the weekend, I had the opportunity to visit our troops fighting in Operation Epic"
[0:00] C-SPAN.org. We take you live now to the Pentagon for a press briefing with Defense Secretary Pete
[0:05] Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Koehn. You're watching live coverage
[0:10] here on C-SPAN 2. Well, over the weekend, I had the opportunity to visit our troops
[0:17] fighting in Operation Epic Fury. We were in the ground, or on the ground, excuse me, in CENTCOM
[0:24] on Saturday for about half the day. For reasons of operational security, so those troops are not
[0:31] targeted, the places and bases will not be named. Suffice it to say, the trip was an honor. I had a
[0:41] chance to bear witness, and I witnessed the best of America. I witnessed warriors, a brotherhood
[0:50] of men and women, warriors all, active duty, guard, and reserve, united in their love for each other,
[0:57] their shared purpose, and their commitment to the mission. I witnessed sheer competency. I watched
[1:05] a private first class confidently calling out an enemy,
[1:09] and I witnessed the best of America. I witnessed the best of America. I witnessed the best of America.
[1:19] I spoke to Air Force and Navy pilots on the flight line who every day both deliver bombs deep into
[1:25] Iran, but also shoot down drones defending their base. Many had just returned from the skies of
[1:34] Iran and Tehran. I put on a headset and spoke to one crew in the cockpit, locked and loaded,
[1:42] each in his own place. I was able to hear the shots of the army in the air. I was able to
[1:42] hear the shots of the army in the air. I was able to hear the shots of the army in the air. I was able to
[1:42] and every day. I witnessed ingenuity, American ingenuity. I met the young army officer who
[1:49] figured out how to neutralize maneuvering enemy missiles, saving countless lives. His commander
[1:54] confirmed that the whoops and cheers erupted in the tactical operations center when his new
[2:00] approach was first successful. I met the Air Force intel analyst who refines target packages faster
[2:07] than the enemy can adapt. I actually gave him my card and told him to keep me posted on the ground
[2:14] truth. I did the same with his boss, a colonel with a heart the size of Texas and a beautiful
[2:24] deployment mustache to match. I witnessed lethality. I met a junior airman as the sun was
[2:33] going down and a chill was setting on the tarmac who, when asked what they needed, she simply looked
[2:40] up at me with a sly smile on her face and said, more bombs, sir, and bigger bombs. We will happily
[2:51] oblige her. I met the army targeting team who
[2:55] found and sunk the pride and joy of the Iranian Navy, their fighting position plastered with
[3:00] images of sunken enemy ships. And I witnessed urgency. Right when we landed, another C-17
[3:08] landed just minutes after us. And within 30 seconds of the aircraft coming to a full stop,
[3:15] a team on the ground pulled up and the cargo was being uploaded. Wartime speed. To a man and to a
[3:22] woman, on the ground, in the air, on the flight line, and in the talk, I heard,
[3:29] I want everything faster. Higher op tempo. Wartime speed. The feeling was the exact opposite
[3:38] of the rotational units year after year in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that we're so familiar
[3:43] with. In those wars, it was always about the next rotation, never knowing when the mission would end
[3:49] or exactly what the mission was, year after year, not with epic fury. I witnessed urgency to finish
[3:58] the job, urgency to achieve mission success, not looking at the next rotation.
[4:03] Only moving as fast as possible to win. I got a chance to troop the line, to witness firsthand
[4:12] what we already know is true. Spoke to all ranks and all services, none of whom knew we were coming.
[4:18] It was not rehearsed or scripted. Sometimes we just wandered. What I witnessed was motivation.
[4:25] It was sheer mission focus. It was the American warrior unleashed. It was the kind of warfighting
[4:33] American spirit that comes with a clear mission against a determined enemy. A crew chief we flew
[4:41] up nicely. He said, it's been a busy few weeks, sir. Tough stuff. But I'm so honored to be called up.
[4:48] This fight is long overdue. We need to address it for our kids. We cannot pass the buck. Please
[4:55] thank the president from us. I heard that time and time again. I asked each young American,
[5:03] what do you need? And nobody said better equipment. Nobody said more comfortable living conditions.
[5:09] Nobody said send me home. Well, of course, eventually we want all those things. They do too.
[5:16] But what those Americans said,
[5:18] to me, young and old, officer and NCO, male and female, black and white, was let's finish
[5:26] the mission. Get us even more bombs, bigger bombs, more targets. Let us finish this. In fact,
[5:34] Admiral Cooper noted this morning that the three Air Force captains shot down by Kuwaiti friendly
[5:39] fire early in the fight weeks ago. They never left the theater. All dropped bombs over Tehran
[5:47] last night. These men and women live the Iranian threat every day.
[5:53] Incoming missiles and drones and know what a world looks like, what the world would look like
[5:58] if Iran had the most dangerous weapons in the world, a nuclear weapon. As President Trump has
[6:04] said time and time again for years and in this administration, Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb
[6:09] and they won't. These troops, they want to finish this fight for their kids and their grandkids.
[6:15] This is about history. This is about legacy. Success matters. And because of this president
[6:24] and these Americans, we're closer than ever before.
[6:27] President Trump is doing what no other president had the guts to do. Previous presidents were
[6:35] all talk. He's all action. On the battlefield, because of the latitude the president has given
[6:42] us, American firepower is only increasing. Iran's decreasing. We have more and more options and
[6:51] they have less. Just one month in, only one month, we set the terms. The upcoming days will be
[7:00] decisive. Iran knows that and there's almost nothing they can militarily do.
[7:04] Yes, they will still shoot some missiles, but we will shoot them down. Of note, the last 24 hours
[7:12] saw the lowest number of enemy missiles and drones fired by Iran. They will go underground,
[7:19] but we will find them. We recently destroyed another one of their command bunkers. Leaders
[7:26] forced to flee. No water, no power, no oxygen, no command and control. Their faith in their caves
[7:33] diminishing. The latest intel is clear out of CENTCOM. Our strikes are damaging the morale
[7:41] of the Iranian military, leading to widespread desertions, key personnel shortages and causing
[7:46] frustrations amongst senior leaders. Just last night, we had 200 dynamic strikes alone. Dynamic
[7:55] strike is a strike where a pilot leaves and during their flight, they get a new target set based on
[8:00] real-time intel given to them. A new launcher, a new location, a new troop formation. A dynamic
[8:07] target is one that changes while you're in the air because of improved intelligence. 200 dynamic
[8:12] strikes alone. We had 200 dynamic strikes alone. We had 200 dynamic strikes alone. We had 200 dynamic
[8:12] strikes alone. We had 200 dynamic strikes alone. We had 200 dynamic strikes alone. We had 200 dynamic
[8:12] strikes alone. We had 200 dynamic strikes alone. We had 200 dynamic strikes alone in addition to the
[8:13] pre-planned targets. The video the president posted last night of Esfahan, an ammo depot struck
[8:20] by U.S. bombers. You see, you don't get to see many of those videos because, as a reminder, Iran
[8:27] has still shut off the internet to 99.9% of its population. But if Iran is wise, they will cut a
[8:36] deal. President Trump doesn't bluff and he does not back down. You can ask Khomeini about that.
[8:43] The new Iranian regime should know that by now. This new regime, because regime change has a
[8:50] occurred, should be wiser than the last. President Trump will make a deal. He is willing. And the
[8:58] terms of the deal are known to them. If Iran is not willing, then the United States War Department
[9:03] will continue with even more intensity. Standing here this morning in this briefing room, in my
[9:12] mind's eye, I'm actually looking out at the groups I met this weekend. The pilots, the logisticians,
[9:21] the intel analysts, the targeters, the sustainers, the flight crews, the air defenders, the base
[9:27] security, those maintainers who we walked up at sunset with the chill and the air on the flight
[9:35] line. May God watch over all of them each day and each night. May his almighty and eternal arms of
[9:45] providence stretch over them and protect them and bring them peace. In the name of Jesus Christ and
[9:54] amen. Mr. Chairman, over to you. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Good morning, everyone. And thank you
[9:59] again for being here. As operations continue, I remain deeply grateful for the support and
[10:03] determination of 2.8 million members of our joint force, each of whom are serving something greater
[10:10] than themselves. Every day, those deployed and in many cases, those at home who are deploying
[10:16] forward and bomber pulses and others put themselves in harm's way. And we owe them a deep
[10:21] debt of gratitude. I remain especially grateful for our fallen who gave the ultimate sacrifice.
[10:28] We'll never forget their valor and their determination to do something
[10:33] greater than themselves. And each day we continue to earn what they've given to us. This morning, I
[10:39] want to share that yesterday, the joint force had the honor of participating in the burial of Colonel
[10:45] Clarence Emil Budd Anderson, who passed away in May of 2024 at the ripe old age of 102. He was laid
[10:54] to rest in Arlington Cemetery yesterday morning alongside his wife of 70 years, Eleanor, who he
[11:03] married in 1945. She passed away in 2015 at the age of 92. But yesterday, a legend to our Air Force and
[11:11] fighter pilots everywhere was honored with a combination flyby of F-35s and a four ship of P-51
[11:18] Mustangs. He was one of the most prolific flying aces of World War II and the highest scoring P-51
[11:24] ace with 16 and a quarter kills in his squadron and in his group. And he served from 1942 to
[11:33] 1972. And his last combat tour was flying F-104 Thunder Chiefs over North Vietnam. For anyone that had the
[11:41] chance to meet Colonel Anderson, you knew what an incredibly special man he was. And that's true for each and
[11:48] every one of our World War II vets who become fewer and fewer with each passing day. They are the greatest
[11:54] generation and give us the gift of an incredible example as we execute Operation Epic Fury today. And Colonel
[12:02] Anderson, we
[12:03] mourn for your loss. And remember that smile on the right side as you went out to do our nation's business. I'd like to now share an
[12:12] operational update. Our Joint Force continues to focus on our military objectives as we systematically continue to degrade and
[12:20] destroy Iran's ability to project power and threaten stability beyond its borders. First, the Joint Force continues to
[12:28] destroy Iran's ballistic missile and UAS capabilities. We remain focused on the
[12:33] interdicting and destroying the logistical and supply chains that feed these programs. And this remains a truly joint effort and
[12:43] prosecuted around the clock from air, land, sea, space, and cyberspace. Long range bombers from U.S. Strategic
[12:48] Command are coordinating with tactical fighter aircraft from our Joint Force, launched from bases around the region and
[12:55] the continental United States. While simultaneously Navy fighters from the sea and Sailors continue to project fault and
[12:58] storage equipment down to the MUR-484 in Syria and the three arms medals mounted in Iran's Mobile Command.해
[13:00] have a greater focus on live combat. να
[13:03] power from the sea while Army and Marine artillery units continue to execute long-range precision
[13:10] fires deep into enemy territory against high-value targets. Meanwhile, on the defense side, our Army
[13:16] and Air Defenders and aviators, as the Secretary talked about, remain vigilant, forming a shield
[13:22] to protect our forces and our partners intercepting missiles and drones. Together, we continue to
[13:28] deliver precision strikes against key manufacturing nodes, component storage sites, research facilities
[13:35] deep within Iranian territory. And over the past 29, I'm sorry, 30 days, we've struck more than
[13:42] 11,000 targets. Given the increase in air superiority, we've successfully started to
[13:48] conduct the first overland B-52 missions, which allow us, as we've said before, to continue to
[13:55] get on top of the enemy. And as the Secretary said, we're going to continue to get on top of the
[13:58] enemy. And as the Secretary said, we're going to continue to get on top of the enemy. And as the
[13:58] Secretary talked about, switch towards more and more dynamic targets, servicing mobile targets
[14:06] around the battle space. We've continued to do the work against Iran's missile, drone, and naval
[14:13] production facilities, and we continue the multi-domain pressure that we've talked about.
[14:18] Second, on the Navy front, we continue to assert dominance over the Iranian Navy. We remain
[14:24] focused on targeting their mine lane capability, their naval assets, and we've now
[14:29] as I mentioned briefly last time, started to work attack helicopters and other close air support
[14:34] assets into the naval domain. CENTCOM continues to identify and work against naval depots and
[14:41] storage areas. And we've taken out, again, more than 150 ships, including all Jamaran-class
[14:48] frigates inside their Navy. Third, we continue to prosecute our campaign against our defense
[14:54] industrial base at scale. This includes factories, warehouses, nuclear weapons,
[14:59] research, and development labs. And the associated infrastructure required for Iran to reconstruct
[15:07] combat capability. I would like to continue my theme of highlighting the incredible contributions
[15:13] of Americans to our joint force. Today I want to talk a little bit about a different front line, a
[15:19] line that doesn't have bunkers or guard posts, but is just as critical to our nation's security, our
[15:26] National Assembly lines.
[15:28] And beyond the line, there needs to be a system in place to propagate at the nations од mitigate the
[15:29] to recognize a group of Americans who live at the beginning of our nation's combat power,
[15:34] the Americans who actually make our weapons both inside our defense industrial base,
[15:40] but even more broadly inside our national industrial base. In every military option,
[15:47] we could not and cannot do our jobs without the men and women across our country who show up every
[15:54] day around the clock, to a factory floor, a workshop, a laboratory, who build the weapons
[16:01] and capabilities we need to project American combat power at the time and place of our choosing.
[16:07] These great Americans, and I've had a chance to spend some time with them when I was in the
[16:12] private sector, are the core of American combat power. They're the machinists running high-tech
[16:17] CNC machines, cutting raw blocks of metal into incredibly precise parts. They're the
[16:23] essential workers in the attack industry, and they're the ones who can bring power to America.
[16:24] assembly workers painstakingly taking a kit of parts and turning that into a complex guidance
[16:29] system or precision munition or a rocket motor or building a jet or submarine, or that there
[16:36] are quality assurance technicians who ensure that when a warfighter pulls a trigger, the weapon
[16:43] works every time. This can be and is tough and gritty work. It's not a quiet office and a desk
[16:51] with paper, and there's nothing wrong with that, but this is exactly the way this group of Americans
[16:57] likes it. I know this. I've seen it myself, and I remain deeply honored by that gift.
[17:02] It's often loud and dangerous work demanding that requires absolute focus for hours at a time with
[17:09] deep commitment to get it right every single time. It's hands-on work where one uncaught mistake or
[17:17] deviation can put an American's life at risk. A single misplacement,
[17:21] misplaced wire, a microscopic flaw in a weld, incorrectly calibrated sensor could mean the
[17:27] difference between mission success or mission failure. The difference is measured in the lives
[17:33] of our sons and daughters who we put out around the field and on the field of battle.
[17:39] We rely on and trust in these great Americans, and it's not just their manufacturing skill, it's
[17:44] their innovative minds and their entrepreneurial spirit. From those who build exquisite
[17:51] capabilities and highly innovative technologies, we have a life of revolution. We are the people who
[17:51] make the difference. We're their mission. We're the people who make the difference. We're the people
[17:51] down to the mom-and-pop machine shops all over this great country.
[17:56] They live at the beginning of and the core of America's combat capability,
[18:02] constantly adapting, constantly improving, constantly learning.
[18:06] And there are examples of this throughout history and current days.
[18:11] To include building things like the F-117 stealth fighter, the B-2 stealth bomber,
[18:17] making our combat capability undetectable over the enemy,
[18:21] to today's B-21 and F-47.
[18:25] It's work like in the shipyards of the East Coast and Northeast side of the United States
[18:30] that go out and build America's nuclear submarines
[18:32] that allow us to patrol around the world at the time and place of our choosing.
[18:39] These innovators, these workers, these incredible Americans
[18:42] don't get the same glory as a fighter pilot returning to a carrier deck at night
[18:46] or an artilleryman sending rounds downrange.
[18:50] And yet they show up.
[18:51] Every single day.
[18:53] And without them, we could not do the work that we are tasked to do.
[18:57] 24-7, they build the tools that we need to do our business.
[19:02] The skill, the commitment, the patriotism, the dedication
[19:06] poured into every piece of combat capability and hardware
[19:11] is seen and felt out at the edge of the force.
[19:15] As the Secretary talked about those young bomb builders out in the desert
[19:20] that he had the chance to see.
[19:21] You can see it, you can feel it, and it's real.
[19:26] And we're deeply grateful.
[19:27] So to the American workforce out there,
[19:30] both inside our defense industrial base and in our national industrial base,
[19:35] thank you on behalf of the Joint Force.
[19:37] We carry the weapons that you build.
[19:40] We rely on the systems that you create.
[19:42] And the distance from that factory floor and that assembly line
[19:46] to the front line is incredibly short.
[19:50] Thank you. Keep it up.
[19:51] And to our adversaries out there,
[19:53] I remind you to beware of the American workforce.
[19:57] We continue to press forward in our military objectives.
[20:00] The Secretary and I remain deeply humbled by the spirit, tenacity, commitment, and grit
[20:06] of our 2.8 million member strong Joint Force.
[20:10] I want to, as always, thank the force and their families.
[20:13] And as always, remember our fallen.
[20:16] We carry with them and their names every day.
[20:18] Sir, I'll turn it back over to you.
[20:20] Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[20:21] Two things.
[20:22] He didn't note it, but in memory of Colonel Bud Anderson,
[20:25] the chairman himself flew his F-16 to honor him recently.
[20:29] And thank you for highlighting the defense industrial base,
[20:31] the arsenal of freedom.
[20:32] It's worth noting no one has rebuilt that defense industrial base faster
[20:35] and with more purpose than President Trump in his first term.
[20:38] And now we're rebuilding the arsenal of freedom.
[20:41] Our defense industrial base is more vibrant today
[20:44] than it's been since World War II and growing rapidly.
[20:47] Contrast that with Iran, whose defense industrial base is,
[20:51] nearly completely destroyed, their ability to reconstitute the weapons of war they're using now
[20:57] that they're hiding in underground facilities and attriting over time,
[21:00] their ability to rebuild that is negligible.
[21:04] And I think that contrast is an enduring legacy of this as well.
[21:07] Right here.
[21:07] We've had some signaling that the U.S. will retake control of the Strait of Hormuz.
[21:15] At that point, what military posture will be imposed to guarantee safe passage for our allies,
[21:21] deter our enemies?
[21:22] And demonstrate U.S. dominance in the region?
[21:26] And also, can you speak to how much America's adversaries, Russia, China,
[21:31] and North Korea, how much they're supporting Iran's war machine at this point with arms
[21:36] and intelligence and what we are militarily doing to punish the enemy coalition?
[21:42] Appreciate both questions.
[21:44] On the Strait of Hormuz, there are many more vessels flowing
[21:47] through today than there were, as the President has arranged.
[21:50] The President's been clear.
[21:51] To Iran, open it for business, or we have options, and we certainly do.
[21:55] And when you look at what the Chairman laid out with the Navy, with the Navy industrial base,
[21:58] with coastal cruise missiles, with UAVs, with countermine capabilities,
[22:03] we've been focused from the beginning on attriting and defeating those capabilities
[22:06] and limiting their options.
[22:08] There's lots we're doing as well, some of which is known,
[22:11] some of which is not known, to set the conditions.
[22:14] And I think the President was clear this morning in his truth that there are countries
[22:18] around the world who ought to be prepared to step up.
[22:23] On this critical waterway as well.
[22:24] It's not just the United States Navy.
[22:27] Last time I checked, there was supposed to be a big, bad Royal Navy that could be prepared
[22:31] to do things like that as well.
[22:32] So he's pointing out, this is an international waterway that we use less than most.
[22:36] In fact, dramatically less than most.
[22:38] So the world ought to pay attention to be prepared to stand up.
[22:40] President Trump's been willing to do the heavy lifting on behalf of the free world
[22:43] to address this threat of Iran.
[22:45] It's not just our problem set going forward, even though we have done the lion's share
[22:50] of preparation to ensure that that Strait will be open, which is an outcome.
[22:54] The President's been very clear on.
[22:56] As far as Russia and China, we know exactly what they're doing.
[22:59] What they are or are not doing.
[23:00] We don't have to air publicly what all of that is.
[23:04] But where necessary, we're addressing it, we're mitigating it, or we're confronting
[23:08] it head on.
[23:09] I don't know if you have anything you want to add.
[23:10] No, sir.
[23:11] I think you covered it.
[23:13] Not right here.
[23:14] Do you have a timeline for operability in the Strait?
[23:15] Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
[23:16] David Zier, Real America's Voice.
[23:19] And I witnessed that enthusiasm on the lines in our submarine builders and ironworks.
[23:24] It's unbelievable.
[23:24] But I just wanted to ask you, what's the status of the delivery of any hardened bunkers
[23:31] for additional protection for our troops?
[23:34] And without getting too specific, what kind of measures are we taking to protect some
[23:38] of the larger, more strategic aircraft like the Sentry and other?
[23:42] Well, it's a great question.
[23:44] I'll say what I witnessed where I went was a completely locked-in discipline of bunker
[23:52] use and bunker improvement.
[23:55] So from the beginning, as we stated very clearly, the first thing we did was set up
[23:59] a defense and make sure our defensive capabilities were maxed out before any of this even started.
[24:04] That included fortifications as much as possible.
[24:07] But it also included disbursement.
[24:09] If all of our people are in one place, you could imagine why that's a big problem.
[24:13] So dispersing is part of that defeat.
[24:16] Alongside that, disbursement is more and more bunkers.
[24:19] And I can tell you, talking to base commanders, talking to our allies in Israel, talking to
[24:23] others, rapidly fielding that.
[24:24] And then improving those positions is a theater of priority, no doubt, as are the air defenses
[24:30] and the layered air defenses.
[24:31] It's not just Patriots and THAADs.
[24:33] It's fighters and defensive caps.
[24:35] It's other kinetic defeat systems.
[24:37] It's electronic warfare.
[24:38] So the defense of our troops and our assets is maxed.
[24:42] I will say on some of those other assets you talked about, air wings, airframes, there's
[24:48] some things adversaries are doing to provide info and intel that they shouldn't.
[24:52] We're aware of it.
[24:53] And ultimately, we move forward.
[24:54] We move things around and don't – one of the biggest principles you learn in the military
[24:59] is to not set patterns, predictable patterns.
[25:03] And so we're – commanders are working hard to adjust in real time with those systems
[25:07] and make sure they're in the right places and not easily targetable.
[25:09] Jillian.
[25:11] Thanks, Mr. Secretary.
[25:12] The U.S. and Iran appear right now publicly to disagree about whether there are these
[25:17] negotiations ongoing.
[25:20] What impact does that have on military strategy?
[25:22] Does it have any bearing at all?
[25:25] And General, the President wrote yesterday that the U.S. might destroy Iran's electricity
[25:33] generating plants and oil wells.
[25:35] Those are his words before ending this operation.
[25:38] Is there a way to do either of those things without like seriously jeopardizing or seriously
[25:45] harming civilians?
[25:48] So on the talks, I can tell you, having been with Steve and Jared and the Vice President
[25:54] and Marco and many others yesterday, they are very real.
[25:56] They are honest.
[25:57] They are ongoing.
[25:58] They are active.
[26:00] And I think gaining strength.
[26:02] And we appreciate that.
[26:03] As I said in my remarks, we would much prefer to get a deal.
[26:06] If Iran was willing to relinquish material they have and ambitions they have, open this
[26:11] – great.
[26:12] That's the goal.
[26:13] We don't want to have to do more militarily than we have to.
[26:17] But I didn't mean it flippantly when I said in the meantime we'll negotiate with bombs.
[26:21] Our job is to ensure that we compel Iran to realize that this new regime, this regime
[26:25] in charge, is in a better place.
[26:27] It's in a better place if they make that deal.
[26:29] And so we'll continue.
[26:30] We're working hand in hand.
[26:31] But the primary effort is a deal.
[26:33] We want that deal to be accomplished if at all possible.
[26:36] If not, then we're prepared to continue.
[26:38] What happened to –
[26:40] Go ahead.
[26:41] Mr. Chairman.
[26:42] Yeah.
[26:43] Madam.
[26:44] Thanks for the question.
[26:45] We're always thinking about those considerations and develop options to be able to mitigate
[26:50] those risks pursuant to the normal practices that we do in the military.
[26:54] So –
[26:55] Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
[26:56] I know you slightly addressed this.
[26:58] I know you already.
[26:59] But just on the Strait of Hormuz, is opening the strait an essential objective to Operation
[27:03] Epic Fury, or is that the job of those other countries?
[27:07] And then secondly, without asking you to comment on things that you can't talk about, what
[27:12] is your message to Americans who love the president and strongly believe in him but
[27:16] are very worried about this notion of boots on the ground?
[27:19] Well, first, on the Strait of Hormuz, our core objectives from this podium, from day
[27:26] one, from me, from the chairman, from the president, from the vice president, from the
[27:28] president, from the vice president, from the vice president, from the vice president, from
[27:29] the vice president, from the vice president, from Secretary Rubio and others, have been
[27:32] clear.
[27:33] Defense missile production and missile programs, so their entire missile program, defense industrial
[27:39] base and production ability to build, and Navy and power projection.
[27:43] So those – and then, of course, wrapping it all is Iran's never going to have a nuclear
[27:47] weapon.
[27:48] So those have been very clear.
[27:49] Defeating the Navy is a core part of ensuring they can't project that kind of power.
[27:52] But ultimately, I think the president's truth this morning lays that out very well,
[27:57] that this Strait of Hormuz issue, which we've set the conditions.
[27:59] For success, and we will make sure Iran knows that very clearly, is not just a United States
[28:05] of America problem set.
[28:08] We've been willing to lead.
[28:09] President Trump's led the entire time.
[28:11] But it's not just us.
[28:12] So ultimately, I think other countries should pay attention when the president speaks.
[28:16] He's proven that when he speaks, he means something.
[28:18] And he's pointing out, you know, you might want to start learning how to fight for yourself.
[28:24] It's something some of us have been saying for quite some time.
[28:27] You can't just have flags.
[28:28] You have to have formations.
[28:29] You can't just have a few ships.
[28:31] You have enough to affect change.
[28:32] Those things matter in a dangerous world with ascended adversaries.
[28:36] That's why the president, that's why the chairman's talking about our industrial base.
[28:39] That's why we're launching the Arsenal of Freedom tour to revive our defense industrial
[28:43] base.
[28:44] President Trump doing it in a way that nobody else has.
[28:46] As far as President Trump and boots on the ground, I don't understand why the base, which
[28:52] they have already, they understand wouldn't have faith in his ability to execute on this.
[28:57] Look at his track record of pursuing peace.
[28:59] Peace through strength.
[29:01] America first outcomes.
[29:03] What he's simply saying, and it's exactly true, and I've said from this podium too,
[29:07] we're not going to foreclose any option.
[29:09] You can't fight and win a war if you tell your adversary what you are willing to do
[29:13] or what you are not willing to do to include boots on the ground.
[29:17] Our adversary right now thinks there are 15 different ways we could come at them with
[29:22] boots on the ground.
[29:23] And guess what?
[29:24] There are.
[29:25] So if we needed to, we could execute those options on behalf of the president of the United States.
[29:29] And this department or maybe we don't have to use them at all.
[29:33] Maybe negotiations work or maybe there's a different approach.
[29:36] The point is to be unpredictable in that.
[29:38] Certainly not let anybody know what you're willing to do or not do.
[29:41] But if anybody has internalized the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan as the first one,
[29:46] President Trump, to call them out for what they are, he's not going to repeat those lessons.
[29:50] And I think I've been very clear about that from the podium.
[29:52] Thank you, Secretary.
[29:53] I have a question for you and then a question for General Cain.
[29:58] You said we're a month into.
[29:59] The Operation Epic Fury.
[30:01] How long until the objectives are achieved?
[30:03] And is there a scenario where a deal is struck before the objectives have been achieved?
[30:08] And then for General Cain, there's been lots of media coverage that suggested a ground
[30:13] invasion is imminent.
[30:15] What other purposes might the soldiers and the Marines who have been deployed over to
[30:20] the Middle East serve in this conflict?
[30:23] Well, just like the previous question, sort of military 101.
[30:29] Don't tell your enemy what you're willing to do or not do.
[30:31] And don't tell your enemy when you're willing to stop, especially an enemy that likes to
[30:35] hide in bunkers and try to hoard their missiles and hope he'll wait you out.
[30:39] So that's not a question I'm going to answer or the president has said definitively.
[30:44] We have our own goals and guidance and things were military objectives that we're moving
[30:48] toward and things that we look at.
[30:50] And as he's articulated, you know, he said four to six weeks, six to eight weeks, three.
[30:55] It could be any particular number, but we would never reveal precisely what it is because
[31:00] our goal is to finish those objectives.
[31:01] And we're well on our way.
[31:04] And the chairman and I look at this every single day.
[31:06] It will be the president's determination and the president's determination alone when those
[31:11] objectives are complete and when it serves the interest of the American people to cut
[31:15] that deal, to make sure that Iran doesn't have a nuclear capability and ultimately that
[31:21] our objectives or our interests are advanced.
[31:23] I don't know if you want to add anything.
[31:25] No, just to answer your question, Reagan, you know, the range of military options that
[31:30] those forces can offer.
[31:31] Our extensive, not just limited to what you mentioned in terms of forces on the ground.
[31:37] And I wouldn't want to take away the president's decision space.
[31:41] But there are a multitude of things, not the least of which is Iran should note that they're
[31:46] out there and that they are a pressure point.
[31:50] And so they should carefully consider, I think, at the diplomatic level, not my job as a chairman,
[31:56] but at the diplomatic level to consider what's in front of them.
[32:00] Jerry.
[32:01] Mr. Secretary, the U.S. government, I see, says for many years that Iran is protecting
[32:10] al-Qaeda senior leaders, including the current Amir Saif al-Adil.
[32:16] Does the U.S. assess that he's still in Iran as he fled to Afghanistan?
[32:21] Is he on a target list?
[32:24] And Mr. Chairman, based on CENTCOM figures and open source Iranian daily reports, what's
[32:29] your take on that?
[32:30] MR.
[32:31] Well, you know, the Iranian daily missile barrages and drone launches have indeed
[32:35] dropped dramatically since the start of the war, but they're not at zero.
[32:40] And they seem to have maintained some level of low but stable numbers.
[32:47] Perhaps they've dropped a little bit more in recent days.
[32:49] How do we get that closer to zero?
[32:54] And what impact is Iran's degraded but still very real capability impacting current and
[33:00] future operations?
[33:01] MR.
[33:02] So I won't speak to a particular target.
[33:04] I'll just say that al-Qaeda remains our enemy, obviously.
[33:08] And there are a lot of people on our target list in Iran.
[33:12] And if they were to be harboring al-Qaeda, they would certainly fit that list.
[33:14] MR.
[33:16] Just quickly, you know, the mobile targets that they have that we continue to
[33:20] service, as the Secretary talked about, the 200 hits that were done last night, that's
[33:25] one component of continuing to lower that.
[33:28] The second and more long-term impact that we're seeing is that the U.S. military is
[33:31] not going to be able to keep up with what we're having, is the strikes against their
[33:33] defense industrial base at scale, which will not allow them to reload after that.
[33:39] So we do continue to see a trend down.
[33:41] They are still shooting, and we do continue to exert significant pressure against both
[33:46] sides of that system.
[33:47] MR.
[33:48] Mr. Secretary, thank you for your question.
[33:49] Do you still believe – you'd said previously that the Iranian leadership would surrender.
[33:55] Do you still believe that?
[33:57] And is the United States still committed to NATO's collective defense and to Chairman
[34:01] King?
[34:02] Could you give us a sense of your thinking about the legality of striking desalinization
[34:07] plans if the President were to order that?
[34:10] SECRETARY POMPEO I would just say that any mission that ends
[34:13] on our terms – call it a surrender, call it a defeat, call it what you want – we
[34:17] remain committed to a conflict that ends on our terms and the President's terms.
[34:22] There's no doubt about that.
[34:24] And as far as NATO is concerned, that's a decision that will be left to the President.
[34:26] But I'll just say a lot has been laid bare, a lot has been shown to the world about what
[34:33] our allies would be.
[34:34] And I think that's what we're willing to do for the United States of America when
[34:36] we undertake an effort of this scope on behalf of the free world.
[34:40] These are missiles that don't even range the United States of America.
[34:43] They range allies and others.
[34:46] And yet when we ask for additional assistance or simple access basing and overflight, we
[34:52] get questions or roadblocks or hesitations.
[34:55] And the President is pointing out you don't have much of an alliance if you have countries
[35:00] that are not willing to stand with you when you need them.
[35:02] He's simply pointing that out.
[35:04] And ultimately it will be his decision what that looks like after this is completed.
[35:07] I'll just – I won't talk about any particular target.
[35:10] This really builds on Jillian's question, too, that I don't think I completely answered.
[35:14] But, you know, the joint force is the most professional force in the world, and we have
[35:18] numerous processes and systems to carefully consider the whole range of considerations
[35:24] from civilian risk to legal considerations with any target.
[35:28] And as targets come before us, we run them through the same process that we always do
[35:33] and always strive for.
[35:34] And we strike lawful targets in accordance with the normal procedures that we use.
[35:39] Mr. Chairman, can you agree with no code or no mercy for enemy combatants, as Vice
[35:44] Secretary said?
[35:45] Go ahead.
[35:46] Go ahead.
[35:47] For me?
[35:48] Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
[35:49] Thank you, sir.
[35:50] No.
[35:51] Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
[35:52] Thank you.
[35:53] I appreciate it.
[35:54] On Sunday, President Trump said that Iran's first regime was all destroyed and the second
[35:55] one is mostly dead.
[35:56] The third regime that we're on right now has been much more reasonable in negotiations.
[35:59] Do you agree with that assessment and why?
[36:01] I would defer to the negotiating team there.
[36:03] They're the ones talking to them.
[36:05] Back and forth on terms, which is a productive development.
[36:09] We stand right there next to our negotiating team, always willing and prepared to put them
[36:14] in an even better position.
[36:16] Thank you very much.
[36:17] I appreciate it.
[36:18] Thank you.
[36:32] Thank you.
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