Defense Says Boat Crash Was Tragic Accident, Not a Crime: Closing Argument

[00:00:00] Speaker ?: Ladies and gentlemen, do you want to ready to proceed to the defense with the case? Thank you. Thank you. [00:00:15] Speaker 1: If you want to hear me, please let me know. I heard the prosecutor say to you, "Theory." What I heard the prosecutor say to you is that in the moments leading up to the crash, with about nine seconds to go, that George Pino was inattentive. He might have been looking over to his wife while she was trying to text a beautiful video of the girls who had a beautiful day over at the sandbar. You might have been looking at his GPS. You might have been looking over to his right or to his left that he was inattentive. Those were her words. And if that is true, if that's the state's theory, George Pino, your job is very simple. George Pino is not guilty of a crime. He may have committed human error. He may well have been inattentive. He may not have looked up in time to see the marker in which he will follow and lie in. But that does not make him a criminal. We have highlighted for you the law. After all, that's where we are. We're in a criminal courtroom in the United States of America, where if your government, my government, wants to grant somebody a criminal, they have to prove he's committed a crime. Not that he was negligent. Not that he has civil liability. Footnote. All civil liability has been resolved already. Long before you were sworn in a treatment. This is not a civil case. This is not about whether, by a preponderance of the evidence, the state or the, I should say, the injured passengers have established liability, civil liability. That has already been resolved. We are here today because our government wants Mr. Pinot to be branded a criminal for having, by their own statement to you, been inattentive. Now, let's look at what the law is, because we are, after all, a court of law. And what we've done is we've taken what we understand the judges' instructions of law to be before you on the screen. It may not be so easy to read because of the distance. There are two crimes that are being charged, vessel homicide and manslaughter. Each of them requires that the state prove beyond a reasonable doubt certain facts. [00:03:11] Speaker ?: And there they are before you. [00:03:13] Speaker 1: That George Pinot operated a vessel in a wrecked manner, likely to cause death of a great bodily harm to another person. His reckless operation caused or contributed to the death of Lucy. What does it mean to be reckless? Different than perhaps negligent. Reckless operation of a vessel requires the state to prove more than a failure to use ordinary care. And so even if you were to find that the operator of a motor vessel failed to use ordinary care by not looking up and seeing the marker in the few seconds before it alighted, that would be, even under the state's own theory, negligence, if that's what the state has proven. Because to prove it to be a crime, it has to be so willful or wanted, a willful or wanted disregard for the safety of persons or property. Intentionally, knowing and purposeful, purposeful, a conscious and intentional indifference to consequences. With the knowledge that damage is likely to be done. It's not enough that a human being has failed to do everything he could or she could at a moment in time. This crime requires a purposeful act of indifference. A purposeful and reckless indifference to his passengers. If we look to the manslaughter charge, it specifically tells you it has to be an act that's not merely negligent. It's right there in the law. We turn to the next page. Culpable negligence. So you've got recklessness is one principle of law that the state is trying to apply against George Pino. They've also tried to apply this principle of culpable negligence. It sounds like negligence, but it's negligence plus a whole lot more. It's more than a failure to use ordinary care towards others. It must be gross and flagrant. Think of those words in your daily life, gross and flagrant. Like in the NBA, just came to me. People commit fouls, NBA National Basketball Association. There are fouls and then there are flagrant fouls. You know a flagrant foul when you see it. [00:06:08] Speaker ?: Flagrant. [00:06:09] Speaker 1: It's not that when the basketball player is going to the hoop and his arm gets hit by another player, even by accident. That may be a foul. But it's only flagrant when it gets to the point that it is so intentional, so diabolical. And even then, even then, referees have to go back to the screen to see just how flagrant it was. If we're going to put a man, if we're going to label a man a criminal, it's got to be fred flagrant and gross with an utter disregard for the safety of others. And that when George Pino, that morning, woke up, when he decided he was going to host a group of friends of his daughter. That somewhere along the line that day, his brain somehow shifted into this gross and flagrant world. That he made conscious decisions. Because that's what the law required before we called him a criminal. And I'm sorry I'm getting a bit agitated. It's an emotional day. It's an emotional day. Because we recognize that there was a lot of hurt that came of this event. A whole lot of hurt. A whole lot of pain. Pain that endures till today. And will endure beyond today. So we have to acknowledge that. And that we all feel it. And I'm sure you felt it as the prosecutor over and again played videos of the injuries and drama and chaos that ensued from the crash. Heart-breaking. Seeing a young girl that we now know wouldn't survive that event. Having to see CPR and medical examiner photos. But the law says that we don't judge these events based on sympathy. Because we all have sympathy for those that were injured. Those that passed away. Those whose injuries will continue on beyond today. But we don't judge someone in a criminal courtroom under these statutes. based upon the injuries and the fatality. To turn what would ordinarily be just an accident. Into a criminal homicide. I heard the prosecutor try to give you an example. And I thought it was telling. She said. Oh. If someone ran a stop sign. And they had a fender bender. That would be just negligence. I think that's what she said. But if that same car. Same driver. Ran the stop sign. But instead of a fender bender. A mother with a stroller. Was walking in the crosswalk. And got hit. And severely injured or worse. Would that change the character. Of the manner in which. The person who was driving the car. Operated that vehicle. The level of injury. The death that might ensue. Under those circumstances. Does not then define. The level of recklessness. The level of culpable negligence. That we all are here to evaluate. And so with that framework. And with a further instruction. That the burden of proof. Is on the state. If the government. Your government. My government. Intends. To seek. A criminal conviction. The government. The state. Must prove. Its case. Not guess. Someone guilty. Not speculate. Someone guilty. But prove. That someone. Has committed a crime. And that's why. The judge. Told you. That we begin. Each of us. As a citizen. Of this great country. Citizen. Of the great state. Of Florida. We all struggle. With the presumption. Of innocence. And that presumption. Carries. With all of us. Whenever we are accused. Of something. In a criminal courtroom. Until. Proven. Guilty. And the burden. Is proof. Beyond. A reasonable doubt. It's the highest burden. We impose upon. Our courts. And our juries. We weigh all the evidence. But if there's not. An abiding. Conviction. Of guilt. Or if there's one. Which is not stable. But one. Which wavers. And vacillates. Then the charge. Is not proven. Beyond a reasonable doubt. And the law. Requires. As part of your oath. To return. A not guilty verdict. That is the law. That's why we are here. And so. [00:11:45] Speaker ?: In evaluating the evidence. I'd like to. First. Begin with just a few. Fact points. [00:11:49] Speaker 1: That the prosecutions. Talk about. The prosecutor. Said to you. She hasn't charged Mr. Pino. With voting under the influence. So she doesn't understand why. And she said. We have made such a big deal. About Mr. Pino. Not being impaired. [00:12:00] Speaker ?: I ask you to recall. The opening statement. Of the prosecutor. [00:12:02] Speaker 1: When you first heard from her. And she said to you. That Mr. Pino. Had two beers. And she did this little signal. [00:12:07] Speaker ?: With her fingers. [00:12:07] Speaker 1: As if. doesn't understand why, and she said, we have made such a big deal about Mr. Pino not being impaired. I ask you to recall the opening statement of the prosecutor when you first heard from her, and she said to you that Mr. Pino had two beers, and she did this little signal with her fingers as if it really wasn't two beers. And she said it to you again today that maybe he had more. Maybe he had more. That is not evidence. A lawyer's assertion is not evidence. A prosecutor's assertion is not evidence. Just because she wants to argue it doesn't make it evidence. We had to bring out the evidence because the state was suggesting to you that it was more than two beers. That's why we are talking about it now. because the state is talking about it. And what was the evidence about beer consumption on that day by Mr. Pino? And we'll talk a moment in a moment about the consumption of alcohol by the passengers and other people at the sandbar that day. Is there any evidence before you, even one witness, that has said to you that George Pino appeared impaired, buzzed, in some way compromise? Is there even one witness of all the people that were at the sandbar that day? Of all the people that testified at this trial? Not a single person has said that George Pino was in any way impaired by alcohol. That should end it. We shouldn't have to talk about alcohol. But we have to because the prosecutor keeps insinuating that maybe there was more than two beers. Of course, the number of beers isn't the issue since there's no evidence of it. It's the fact that Mr. Pino's consumption of two beers did not result in impairment. And you heard it from Lieutenant Thompson. He told Mr. Pino that it's perfectly acceptable over the course of the hours that Mr. Pino was there to have consumed two beers over several hours that afternoon. It's on tape. Mr. Lieutenant Thompson told that to Mr. Pino. Mr. Shapiro questioned Mr. Thompson, Lieutenant Thompson, who confirmed it's true. We do not break the law by consuming a couple of beers over the course of several hours and then operate a motor vessel. And you know that other adults that afternoon also consumed alcohol and operated a motor vessel to include Lucy's dad. And no one other than the prosecutor is suggesting anything about the consumption of alcohol having affected the ability of any of the adults that afternoon to operate their motor vessels. That should end it. But it doesn't with this prosecutor. She continues to insinuate that you should find what's not proven. And certainly you can't find that beyond a reasonable doubt. Later I'll go witness by witness to show you that if this is not coming from me, I took notes of every witness's testimony on this and other subjects. And we'll talk about them. So that's the issue of impairment of alcohol. Let's talk about safety and speed. The prosecutor is emphasizing that Mr. Pino's motor vessel was traveled across the He was traveling that day as fast as 47 miles per hour. Every single witness who testified that was on the boat, and I'm going to go through it one by one, felt the speed was safe. They'd been on his boat before. It felt no different. Nothing unusual about the way Mr. Pino was operating his vessel. He was like one of those jet skaters like one of those jet skaters that's trying to jump weights and do all sorts of thrill-seeking activities. He was not contrary to what the prosecutor said to you today. He was not trying to be the cool dad. I don't know where that came from. The cool dad. The cool dad. He was driving his motor vessel. He was driving his motor vessel. And many of the passengers have been on Mr. Pino's boat before. That motor vessel, Ramballo, is built to handle that speed. Actually, it's built to handle more speed. You may recall that that boat had two 300 horsepower engines. That boat is rated to have two 350 horsepower engines. That boat is built to have two 350 horsepower engines. That boat is built to have two 350 horsepower engines. To handle an additional 100 horsepower engines. That boat is equipped to handle an additional 100 horsepower engines. That boat is equipped to handle an additional 100 horsepower engines. That boat is equipped to handle. He equipped it with motors that would provide less speed than the motorboat is equipped to handle. The passengers were seated exactly where the manufacturer of that boat designates passengers to sit. Every passenger's butt was on a cushion. None of the passengers were standing. None of the passengers were sitting on the gunwale. You by now know what the gunwale is. That's the surface at the front. And to suggest that Mr. Pino. And to suggest that Mr. Pino. Can we put the reckless homicide vessel? To suggest that he was being flagrant. Perfect. That he was being gross and flagrant and disregarding their safety by having the passengers sit exactly where a company that's been in business for decades. I think this Lieutenant Alvarez said they had been bought out by some huge conglomerate. You didn't hear one ounce of evidence that Bravalo had notified his operators that there should be no passengers seated in the designated seating. You did not see a label on the boat saying do not sit here. We live in a society where every package has a warning on it. You buy a pack of cigarettes and it says warning. If you continue to smoke these it may cause cancer. You go to McDonald's and it has to caution you that they have hot coffee in a hot coffee cup. We give warnings to people for any possible liability. You come home from the dry cleaners with your shirt on a hanger. You take the plastic bag off and if you read the bag it says, "Careful, don't put it over your head." You could suffocate if you wrap a plastic bag around your head. We are a society that is so litigious that we warn everybody of any possible misuse of a product. And yet you did not hear one ounce of evidence, not a witness, not even the Lieutenant Albert tell you that Bravalo has suggested to any of its operators over the last 40 or 50 years that the boat is not equipped to have passengers seated in the designated passenger seats. And yet the prosecutor is suggesting to you he is driving the boat in a reckless manner or in a gross and flagrant manner by having passengers sit where they are designated to sit. That is just not fair. That is not fair to the operator of the motor vessel. That is just not fair. Let's talk about the speed. How many witnesses testified that the speed at which those witnesses were traveling, some of them law enforcement officers, others just ordinary boaters like David Rodriguez whose boat can achieve 80 miles per hour, that he was doing 50 to 55 miles an hour that day? There was nothing about the speed at which the Bravalo was traveling that was at all excessive, gross or flaky. And let's say what we all know to be the absolute truth here. If George had not hit the piling, nothing bad would have happened. The conditions were ideal. The waters were calm. It was not a windy day. It was not raining. It was no lightning. There was no oncoming boat traffic. It was wide-open bay. The speed had nothing to do with the injuries. What caused the injuries was the crash. Of course, the faster you go, the more likely someone is going to get hurt. Of course, he bumps it at one mile an hour and nobody gets hurt. But the speed in and of itself did not create the danger. Hitting the marker was the problem. So we all understand that, I hope. No one on the boat asked George Pino to slow down. No one said, "Hey, I'm scared. We're going too fast." Not Mr. Pino's wife, not his daughter, and not any of the other passengers. And with the speed at which Mr. Pino was traveling, even at 47 miles per hour, the state's theory is that with nine seconds to go, with nine seconds to go, Mr. Pino was on a course that would take it into the marker. And as you may recall, when I examined some of the witnesses with nine seconds to go, there's plenty of time to simply turn the wheel slightly and avoid the marker. If George Pino had seen it as he was approaching the marker. Of course, if the state's theory was, he was for those six or seven seconds inattentive, that would explain why he hit the marker. He had plenty of time to do it, that is to change force. But because of inattentiveness, according to the prosecutors, he didn't change force in time. Not reckless, conscious, flagrant disregard. This Rovalo boat is yacht certified. That means that it's built to take that many passengers. There is no weight limitation. This idea that a thousand pounds of passengers is going to create a dangerous situation. No one has said that Rovalo warned George Pino or any of its other operators of this state's theory that they're advancing to you in this courtroom. So we've done it for the moment with the alcohol used by Mr. Pino. I'm talking to you now about the speed at which he was traveling and the way he was driving. And so I want to ask you to imagine on that day, if there was a drone watching Mr. Pino's operation of the vessel, both from Ocean Reef to Billy's Point to the Sandbar and back. If any of us was watching, would someone have said that boat traveling, that way it's traveling, that guy's driving like a lunatic. Because that's what this crime is basically suggesting. Because you know a reckless driver when you see it. It's the lunatic on I-95 cutting through cars, going 30, 40 miles over the speed limit. You know the reckless driver when you see that person. George Pino, his boat was traveling on straight lines at speeds that Rovalo has designed it to travel at. In a zone where there is no speed limit. No posted speed limit. Not then, in 2020, 2022, and not today. If it was so inherently dangerous to travel at speeds in the 40s, you have to ask why there is no speed limit posted there. You heard Lieutenant Albert when I questioned him. There are speed limits all through Biscayne Bay, on Miami Beach, on Lloyd Channel, I spoke to him about that. Posted speed limits like you see on a street. And yet, this channel, Cutter Bay, had no speed limit in 2022 and none today. It's not fair, it's not bright, to tell George Pino after the fact that there should be a speed limit there. I'd like to talk to you now about the government's emphasis about George's imperfect, inaccurate, unreliable memory of the crash. After the crash, and we'll talk more about George's efforts to help people after he regained consciousness. But for now, it's undisputed that as a result of the crash, the illusion, George Pino lost consciousness. He was laying on the floor of the boat unconscious. Witnesses thought he was dead. Bleeding from his head. The prosecutor said no big deal because the impact only shaved off part of his teeth, that we might have a better argument, I think the prosecutor was suggesting, if he had lost the teeth completely. So, George Pino, by all accounts, unconscious on the floor of the boat, he'd hit his face on the floor of the boat and then the back of his head hit the boat. He had two places of impact. He was knocked unconscious. We asked a doctor to come testify because the state did not produce a medical witness on the issue of George's injury. We brought you the only medical testimony about that, Dr. Barrett. And before we get into the substance of her testimony, let's talk about the cross-examination of Dr. Barrett to attack her because she charges for her time. This is someone who's been a professor at medical school. She's been a doctor for decades. Her credentials are unimpeachable. And yet, the prosecutor is focusing on how much money she charges for her time, that she charges for all her patients. The prosecutor was making something of her preference not to have to process insurance for her patients. They're able to seek reimbursement from the insurance company. But she doesn't do that. She accepts direct payment. And then, if they want to be reimbursed from their insurance company, that's okay. As if to suggest you shouldn't consider her testimony because she doesn't accept insurance and because she doesn't work for free. Now, I never asked Lt. Albert how much he was charging the state for his time. He's also a paid witness. Because I wasn't going to go there as if to suggest to you that a man who for decades has been a law enforcement officer would lie to you for money. And I think that's what the prosecutor is suggesting that Dr. Barrett did. That's frightening. Because that's what she's suggesting to you. That because she doesn't accept insurance and because she charges for her time. I mean, after all, someone had to pay so she could go to undergrad and medical school and residency. Those of you who have family members that have become doctors and specialists. It takes a decade to get to the point where you can be someone of her level. And rather than bring you a rebuttal witness, they brought you no one. They attacked the doctor for telling you what is black and white law of medicine. The principles of medicine. Medicine, she explained to all of us, makes a diagnosis of a traumatic brain injury. Focus on what happened at the time of impact and in the 72 hours after. Not three years later. And Dr. Barrett explained to you that because George was seen unconscious by multiple witnesses, and because it was obvious that he had amnesia because he was recalling inaccurately so many of the details of the crash, the diagnosis was beyond dispute. The man was unconscious. He suffered a traumatic brain injury. Now, the word traumatic, I think, is a word that is giving the prosecutor some concern. Because it sounds traumatic. It should be like he needed to go to a hospital and stay there for a month. But that's not how concussions work. And the doctor explained it to you. And so the questions of a lawyer who worked for the state, not for free by the way, who is attacking a doctor, a doctor, a professor, and the questions of the lawyer are not evidence. The suppositions of a lawyer are not evidence. The evidence comes from the witness stand. And the only evidence that was presented to you about the issue of George's memory came from an accomplished doctor, one who's a professor, one who has published, albeit she doesn't accept insurance. And she explained to you that George Pina, having suffered a concussion, diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury, unable to accurately recall events related to the crash, including, for example, which boat he was on. He thought he was on the boat that had the 225 horsepower engines that he had previously. He thought he had hit the left side of the boat, he thought the left side of his boat had hit the marker when it was the right side. He recalled to Lieutenant Thompson that it was Nazi he had pulled out from under the boat when we know it was someone else who was elusive. All of those mistakes made it clear that George Pina was suffering from a TBI, a concussion, and that his memory would not be reliable. It doesn't mean he had total amnesia. The prosecutor was suggesting to you that he should remember nothing to convince you that he's had amnesia and what they call in the medical world confabulation, filling in details about the event from past memories or other memories. And so when George Pina was recounting what he remembered from the crash, and he thought he remembered that there was a wave that came from another boat, that was his memory of it. It may not be reliable, but there are two things that hold true. First, the science establishes that those are the kinds of failed memories and inaccurate memories and false memories that happen after a concussion. And second, it doesn't tell us, and we don't rely upon it, and you don't have to rely upon it in deciding what actually did cause the accident. Was there another boat with a wave? You can disregard it altogether. And you remember, Mr. Shapiro, when he was questioning Lieutenant Thompson, confirmed that no one else saw a boat out there that day coming back from that marker area immediately after the crash. And so, we assume there was no other boat for purposes of deciding, and for you to decide, whether George Pina acted recklessly or conscious disregard for safety. And because there was no other boat, and because the conditions were ideal, the state really has no theory of why George should be labeled a criminal. Because it's not like George was going and racing through incoming traffic, going zigzagging out of boats, and then hit the market. It was a perfectly, as everyone said, it was like the ideal day to go voting. And it comes back to what I told you earlier when we started. So, what the state is telling you is that George made a mistake. He didn't see the market. And now we're going to talk about what's left of the case, and the criminal case, where the state has no theory other than to bring to your attention things that would, they try to influence your decision based on facts that have nothing to do with the operation of the motor vessel. Let's start with underage drinking. And it was a subject of our jury selection when we talked about this earlier on. Whether the girls, the passengers were 17 or 27, the age makes no difference. We're not here to judge these parents based on their decision to allow 17-year-old high school seniors to drink. None of them were operating the boat. All of them were seated where they're supposed to sit. There was a life preserver for each and every one available. True, none of them were wearing one, but the law doesn't require it. George complied with the law by having a life preserver available for every single passenger on that boat. Nothing more was required. And what the state is saying to you is that every time someone comes on your boat and has drinks, and I don't know if it's limited by age, but now the operator of the motor vessel needs to put a life preserver on every drinking passenger. Now I assume that doesn't apply on big cruise ships, which are famous for people going drinking. Or big yachts, maybe. I don't know where the line is going to be drawn in the future. But beware if you're a boater. Beware. Because you take a group of people out on your boat, and they have a few drinks. Some prosecutor will say that because you didn't put a life preserver on that passenger, you are now a reckless voting operator. Because that's what she's saying. But she focuses on the age again, I think, to do two things. It's really, of course, much more painful to know that a young person passed. And let me point out that I think the medical examiner told us that there was no evidence that Lucy had any blood alcohol in her system when they tested her. So I don't think there was any evidence that Lucy was drinking. I don't think there was any evidence about that at all. Some of the other girls were, for sure. And nothing about Lucy. But it sounds to me like what the prosecutor wants you to do is say he's a bad parent because he, and by the way the other parents at the San Mar, to include Lucy's parents, are bad parents. And so let's convict them of being irresponsible parents and call them reckless and callous. And the other, underage or any age ranking of the passengers had nothing to do with why the boat hit the marker. I hope that's clear by now. Nor did the absence of a kill switch. Those of you that may not have been on a boat before, maybe try to explain it. It's like string that you attach to a button on the console so that if the pilot, the operator is dislodged or falls into the water and automatically stops the engines. And the prosecutor wanted you to know that there's no evidence that George had a kill switch. Not required by law. Would not have changed the outcome here. But the prosecutor wanted you to know that and that the flares that were on the boat were expired. Even though I brought out through Lieutenant Alder, even expired flares can serve the function, although it doesn't comply literally with the regulations. And of course, flares had nothing to do with this case. And having unexpired flares wouldn't have changed the outcome here. So now I'd like to go, now I'd like to spend some time talking about the witnesses. That's the evidence, the people you heard from. So that you have no doubt that when I share something with you, I am doing my very best to rely on the evidence and not on my theory or my argument. I've honored a lie and I want you to please rely as is your oath on the evidence. And I sequence them differently than when in the order that you heard them to try to do it in a more organized fashion. I'm not particularly famous to be organized, but I've tried my best so that we can cover the subject together in a meaningful way. Everything starts at Ocean Reef. That's the place where the Pinos were celebrating their daughter's 18th birthday. And in addition to the virtual mass and the pickleball tournament that George organized and the boat ride that he had organized, there was going to be an event that night at nine o'clock dinner, the end of the night. After I guess the Florida State game, the Florida State game that was being played that evening. And George Pino organized the dinner to start at nine and it was going to go until 11. And we heard from a witness named Araceli Alvarez, she was the event planner at Ocean Reef, that they could show up late and stay late because there was no other event afterward. And I thought that that's important because the prosecutor's theory is that George became reckless, he became indifferent to people's safety because he wanted to make sure the girls were Instagram ready in time for this party. That's their theory. He was worried about them being Instagram ready. And that he'd be willing to risk the lives of these girls so that they could shower on time. Then we have the testimony of the people that attended the sandbar and the events of today. He included Lucy's dad, Andres. And here's what he testified to as part of the state's presentation, including the answers to the questions that were asked on cross-examination. He was not concerned that George Pino had consumed too much alcohol. He felt he was able to operate his motor vessel. He did operate his motor vessel. He drove his motor vessel the exact same place that George Pino would drive his motor vessel. He allowed his daughter to drink and was part of the so-called culture. He knew Ceci Pino almost his entire life. There was a loving relationship between these families. He was at the sandbar until at least 5:41 p.m. And we know it's 5:41 p.m. But there's a photograph of the Fernandez. I think it's a, I was going to say, I don't remember the mark of the boat. But it's a 20-footer more or less. And you recall Mr. Fernandez is floating in the boat, in the water behind the boat. It's time-stamped 5:41 p.m. And you know that George Pino left at 6:18 p.m. from the sandbar. So up until 5:41 p.m., at least, sometime after, the Fernandez both leaves the area. Mr. Fernandez had not remembered until we examined him the other day that actually he was planning to attend the sandbar. And changed his mind. We know that because we produced the text message where he told George, for sure, I'll be at the sandbar. But then he changed his mind. That's fine. And he did come out. And you heard nothing to suggest that any of the adults at the sandbar thought that there were too many passengers on George Pino's boat. This is really important in my view. Because the state's theory is, too many people sitting on that boat to be safe. The same passengers that landed at the sandbar from Ocean Reef, the 14 people on board, were the same 14 people that went back. So if it was not reckless and not flagrant and not consciously indifferent to have 14 people in that boat coming to the sandbar, the same should hold true going back to Ocean Reef. And if any of the adults or the parents at the sandbar thought there was something unsafe about these underage girls who had been drinking going back on Pino's boat where they came from, they could say so. There's only one ounce of evidence that George Pino was told by any of the adults there that day that, hey, George, too many people on your boat or anything of the sort. There were four passengers. Four passengers testified: Tammy Alvarez, Carolina Monterrey, Claudia Porto Carrero, and Natalia Reef. Tammy Alvarez testified that after the elision, she thought Pino was dead. On the way to Billy's point, she felt safe and comfortable. There was no unsafe driving by Mr. Pino. She had no reason to believe he was impaired. No sense of danger, excessive speed, or risk on the return trip before the crash. Here's the quote I wrote down. When Mr. Pino was driving his boat back from Billy's point, did he feel that he was driving in a dangerous way? Answer, no. She did not notice any perceptible change in speed, and she remembered that George made sure that everybody was seated. What he would expect a prudent operator to do. The prosecutor will use that against George by saying, George, because you told everybody to sit down, you knew you were going to do something dangerous. So imagine that argument from our government. By doing something prudent, by having everyone sit down as is proper, it's, in the states' view, [00:47:07] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:48:37] Speaker 1: Thank you. [00:48:39] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:48:41] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:48:55] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:48:55] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:49:03] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:49:03] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. [00:49:07] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:49:07] Speaker 1: Thank you. [00:49:09] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:49:11] Speaker 1: Thank you. [00:49:13] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:49:13] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:49:39] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:49:39] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:49:45] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. [00:49:49] Speaker 1: By her count 13 girls. Eight boys. 15 adults. For 36 total. The full page. The state did not call any witness from the Sanbar to contradict the evidence that I've just discussed with you. Now, Cecilia Pino, the mom, no one is suggesting that she is suicidal or homicidal. She was concerned about her own safety and that of her daughter, little Ceci, and the girls who she's known since most of them were born. There's no suggestion that she would get on a boat with someone who was intoxicated driving at lunatic speeds and subject herself, her daughter, and these girls who she loved to danger. Because if you find that George was doing this, you're basically saying so too was Ceci Pino. That the mother of little Ceci, the camp mom, for lack of a better word, that she too, she too was, quote, reckless in allowing her husband to operate the vessel. It's the only inference you can draw. It's the only inference you can draw. What else would you say? And not at one moment in time that Cecilia Pino, the mom, said, "Hey George, slow down." She didn't feel there was any danger. None of the passengers said, "Hey George, slow down." That's the unrebutted testimony. 36 people at the sandbar, 15 of them adults, sharing an afternoon and sharing alcohol. The state put before you the picture of all the empties, the empty bottles. So the Pinos serve as basically the garbage can for that afternoon. That boat becomes one huge garbage can. And everybody puts all the garbage on their boat. And no good deed goes unpunished. Because now the state parades before you all in the bottle. And so, being responsible citizens is now evidence against them. Mrs. Pino was, she told you I brought it up right at the beginning. She felt totally comfortable motoring along. And can we put up A28? I'm sorry, D Victor. This is a picture, time stamp at about 6:31 p.m. Let's go to full screen first. There you go, that's good. So, hoping everyone can see, this is a picture from the stern. That's a word we use in voting, the rear of the boat. That's George Pino with the hat, white hat. And Ceci, his wife, sitting next to him. You can actually see the sun catching the right side of his face. And he's staring into the sunset, so to speak. Although it's about an hour and a half before sunset. And, of course, the state is critical of questions that are asked by the defense about the sun and the tides and all of the circumstances. But, of course, the reason why all of these questions are asked is to get the evidence out to you so you can evaluate the facts. And so, for example, if it was eight in the morning, the sun would be to the east on his left. And so, it might be very important in understanding how the sun creates glare off of the water surface in deciding what visibility someone might have late in the afternoon. The state brought you no evidence, no discussion, no analysis of that. Okay. But what you have is George Pino on this boat and all of you had an opportunity to see the boat in person. George Pino is not six foot eight inches tall like Paul Howard, whose head would be a foot above George Pino. And you can get a sense, because some of you stood on the boat, and you can see that the boat, when it's on plane, and I'm doing a profile, the boat's bow comes up. On plane means the boat is already accelerated, over the hump, so to speak, and is now riding on a plane. That's what they call it. And so, this is the windshield. So, the 47 miles per hour that the prosecutor was talking about, the wind, there's a windshield. For that reason, exactly. It's not like a motorcycle, which some of them have no windshield. This one has a windshield. And on this boat, if we can put our seat charge. There's the bow seating that we talked about. This one doesn't have cushions on it right now, because this is after the fact. But this is where the passengers were seated. And you already heard the testimony that their torsos and their heads would protrude above this gunnel, the freeboard of the boat. And those of you that saw it, probably took note that that boat, when it's floating in the water, that bow of the boat, you can decide for yourself. How high is it above the waterline? How high is it above the waterline when it's floating? And the operator, who's a foot shorter than Lieutenant Albert, what is he looking at if he looks to the front? Certainly, he's going to see the passengers that are sitting there, who are facing him. We'll talk about that more in a moment. Cessie Pinot, in the picture I just asked Mr. Amarolino to show you, she's actually in the process of sending a text using her phone. Now, let's understand the rules of the road, because the navigation rules have been presented to you. There's no requirement that a boat operator have a separate person serve as a lookout. You're not the lookout rule. I can drive my boat all by myself, provided that I'm looking where I'm going and I'm serving as the lookout for my boat. I just want to be sure there's no confusion here. I asked the witness very clear. The operator can be the lookout. You can have more than one lookout if you'd like, for sure. And then, you'll hear in a moment, or you'll see when we talk about it, the operator's head is on a swivel. Because when one's operating a boat, a boat on the open bay, there are no traffic signals. There are no yellow lines and white lines. There are these markers from time to time. But for the most part, it's just open bay and potentially boat traffic. And so, no different than driving a car, you need to look where you're going. I remember that from when I was a kid. My dad would say, "Hey, son, look where you're going." And if you don't look where you're going because you're inattentive, you might fall. If you don't look where you're going because you're distracted, you might trip. Or, as might be the case according to the state, if you don't look where you're going at some point in time, you might hit something. That's what we call a crash, an accident. And if that's what happened here, it's not a crime. The judge will instruct you about those navigation rules. In the state of Florida, the law requires operators of vessels upon its waters to follow the navigation rules. However, a violation of these rules, individually or cumulatively, is not sufficient by itself to constitute culpable negligence or recklessness. Even if an operator violates one rule, or even multiple rules, individually or cumulatively, that is not enough, in and of itself, to establish recklessness or negligence. It's back to whether you're driving a car or driving a boat. If you fail to see the stop sign, it could even be a stop sign that you've passed a hundred times. You're not paying attention that day. If you're going to work and you're thinking about something else, you fail to stop at the stop sign and something awful happens. And that's what we call an accident. Thank you. And like when you're driving to work every day, when you get into a routine, just draw on your own life experience. Each of you has life experience to bring to the courthouse. You've driven this path a hundred times. Sometimes you leave your house and get to work and you don't remember passing half the places that you know are on the way. You just never notice them. You are just day dreaming. Who knows what you're thinking about. Or, my wife will forgive me for saying this, she runs over that same pothole every time. That she should know by now there's a pothole down the street. Don't run over the pothole. It doesn't make people criminals for being human. And overlooking those things. Particularly when your brain is on autopilot. Not real autopilot like a boat. But you're just coming along doing your routine. And if all the state proves to you is that George Pino was on his way back to Ocean Reef as he always was. And he overlooked marker 15 and he hit it. He'll be held accountable in civil court as he was. But that doesn't make him a criminal. Mrs. Pino, to finish her testimony, corroborated what every other witness testified. Her husband suffered a head injury, fractured teeth, stitched elbow, a leg hash. It's beyond dispute. But what the state does to try to, again, avoid dealing with the lack of a theory of criminality. Instead it's focusing on the Pinos several months after the accident. With George suffering from the post-traumatic stress. You've heard he's on psychiatric medications. They go on a family trip to the Panhandle. And for maybe the first time in four months, he breaks out a smile with his daughters. And I think what they're saying to you is that that should convince you that George is lack sympathy. Because he was smiling and one of his daughters posted the picture. That you should find him guilty because he had the nerve to smile for a photograph with his daughters. The first smile he might have mustered in many months and maybe very few since. And perhaps in the most awkward moment of the trial, knowing that Mrs. Pino has spent much of her motherhood with her daughter and her daughter's friends, including Lucy. She's confronted with a photograph of Lucy by the prosecutor saying, "That's not your daughter, is it?" Why would somebody do that? Why would that question be asked? Mrs. Pino explained to you she didn't see the accident. And that's why when she was in that civil case, having to explain what she knew, she had to rely on her husband's memory. Which we know from the science, may not be reliable, but that's all she knew about the cause of the accident. You heard from several good Samaritans: Hilary Candela, Hamlet Rodriguez, and David Rodriguez. These were voters who came upon the scene. Hilary Candela, a gentleman, he did know George Pino by coincidence. He remembers seeing George looking dazed and in shock. That when Hilary Candela screamed out to George look under the boat, the first time George didn't seem to register the instruction. The second time he did and George Pino went under the boat and brought Lucy back from underneath. Hamlet Rodriguez was the person to whom George Pino handed off Lucy so she could get to a boat. Hamlet Rodriguez, a former water bolo player, did everything he could to help her. He said he was swallowing water against a strong current until someone pulled him out. He left the scene around 705, Hamlet Rodriguez. Which happens to coincide when David Rodriguez, unrelated to Hamlet, who had been cruising at 50 to 55 miles per hour, sped up to 70 miles per hour to get to the scene. Yes, of course, he sped up because it was an emergency situation, but he said it felt perfectly safe to travel at those speeds. He saw a mature woman bleeding who said a girl was missing. Likely Ceci Pino since that was the only adult passenger on the boat that he saw bleeding. I think she told me she was hospitalized after that night. Mr. Pino by then was apparently hanging on to the capsized boat after he had passed Lucy off to Hamlet Rodriguez. David Rodriguez described Pino very in shock, crying, but did comprehend instructions. Pino kept asking David, are all the girls okay? Pino would not get out of the water until he was assured that every girl was out of the water. That was 7:04 p.m. I believe was the time stamp on that. He was asked to look at his camera. What time did he photograph George Pino still in the water? 7:04 p.m. The accident occurred according to the GPS at 6:37 p.m. 25 minutes, if my math is not wrong, that George Pino stayed with that boat until everybody was out of the water. And to get out of the water, George Pino had to negotiate a swim platform with a tie bar that David Rodriguez explained was no easy task. And David Rodriguez took the unusual step to put his face in George Pino's face. To see if George Pino smelled like alcohol, had bloodshot eyes, slurred his speech, and David Rodriguez, who was curious, maybe even suspicious, I think he said, was satisfied that George Pino was not under the influence of alcohol, that alcohol was not impairing George Pino's face. And we're talking now 20 minutes after the investigation. Maybe 25 to be more precise. Then the first responders came to the scene. You heard about Officer Bruto, now retired. He was the first officer on the scene. He saw George Pino get out under his own power. [01:09:21] Speaker ?: No stumbling. [01:09:22] Speaker 1: No stumbling. Even Bruto was concerned about a concussion. He said safety first. George had a head injury. But still, George Pino was able to keep his balance on a narrow six-inch gun. No signs of impairment, said Bruto. Speech not slurred. No balance problems. I mean, you talk about taking a sobriety test. That is probably the most difficult sobriety test anyone could take. Bruno himself traveled at near top speed at 52 to 54 miles per hour in emergency mode. Quote, here was the question. The conditions allowed you to travel safely at nearly 54 or 52 to 54 miles per hour. In other words, the top speed that your missile is capable of. Correct? Answered. Correct. So you have an opinion from a law enforcement officer that the speed is safe to travel. First responder, Peter Delgado, a sergeant with the Miami-Dade Sheriff's Office. He triaged Mr. Pino. I mean, he rendered first aid. He confirmed, of course, that no life-saving devices, personal flotation devices are required to be worn. The Pino vessel had the required PFDs. None are required to be worn. He is the officer who began talking to us about those markers, the staggered markers in Cutter Bank. And how staggering the markers, as I think you'll see in a few minutes, is less simple, let's say it that way, when the markers are staggered, versus red, green, red, greener, depending on the site you're looking for. He could see that Pino was an injured passenger bleeding from his head. And he told Pino do not go to sleep, because he was concerned that Pino had a concussion. And going to sleep would be dangerous for someone with a concussion. He too observed no signs of impairment. And no other officer on the scene reported to Delgado, or to any other person who has testified in the trial, any signs of impairment. John Dalton, the Miami-Dade Sheriff's Office, he transported the girls from the accident scene to Elliot Key. He testified, and this is the best quote I have, about speed. "No more than 40, 45, maybe, at max, because they were panic-stricken and begged him not to drive fast, and it was getting dark." As an officer saying, "40 to 45 is not fast." The opposite of not fast, maybe slow, but it's certainly, it's sick. Let's call it that. That's what the officer called it. The girls on Dalton's boat were sitting, I believe they were sitting, yes, seated on the floor in console, at the bow, the front of the boat. By then it was night time, doing it in the 40s at night. Question, and you felt, in those conditions, that was a safe speed for you to travel? Answer, yes, sir. He's the one who talked about keeping your head on a swivel, that the operator of the boat has to keep his head on a swivel. And what that means is, as someone's operating a boat, since there's no traffic lights, no stop signs, no yield signs, no turn signals, which means that if a boat is coming behind you faster, that boat could come up behind you. And so while you're operating a boat, you've got to take a look from time to time. You've got to swivel, look at your instruments, look at your passengers, and if it takes you more than six or seven seconds to do all of that, in one swivel, you might just hit the marker. Lieutenant Thompson testified, he's the witness to whom George Pino candidly said, "Hey, I had two beers." And it was Thompson who explained to them that's okay. It's not illegal to drink and operate a boat. Those were the words of Thompson. Quote, "It's not illegal to drink a beer or a couple of beers and drive." And that's a true statement, isn't it? Answer, yes, sir. Now, Pino's the one, excuse me, Lieutenant Thompson was the responder who took the recorded statement from Mr. Pino that you all have seen. Of course, you can judge for yourself in terms of Mr. Pino's speech whether he appeared to be impaired. A concussed brain, and let's be sure we distinguish between concussion and intoxicated. A concussed brain can fail to record memories. So you can have a concussion, according to Dr. Bear, your brain is not recording memories, but then when you finally come out of the concussion, you can achieve this score of 15 in the Glasgow scale. So you've got your wits about you, but your memory is not restored. But when George Pino was recounting what his memory was to Lieutenant Thompson, which is recorded, George Pino did not accurately recall the details of the crash. I went through those with you already. And you'll see if you decide to look at the video that the first responders had to wrap George's head in a gauze. And I heard the prosecutor said only seven staples. Is there a number of staples after which you're convinced that someone's had a concussion? Seven staples on a man's head with the teeth getting bashed in, blue chicken teeth. That's not enough, according to our prosecutor. And so Lieutenant Thompson, together with the help of some other CSI, crime scene type people, did a recreation. But the vote used for the recreation was Thompson's vote, which doesn't have bow scene, which doesn't have the higher gun. And according to Lieutenant Albert, only tracked the last nine seconds of Mr. Pino's voyage. That was what they were trying to replicate, of course, with the exception of hitting the marker. And that within the last second or so, there's that buoy, and then Lieutenant Thompson avoids hitting the marker. What it proves to you is that if someone is attentive, someone's paying attention, even at that speed, with that lighting, in those conditions, the marker can be avoided. If the operator is inattemptive for some reason, is looking at his instrument, swiveling his head, in the time I've just said that, eight seconds have gone by, he'll hit the marker. Now, we've had a little back and forth. It's not going to be a huge point, but I thought it was important, again, to bring the facts to you. It was high tide when this accident happened. High tide. Thompson thought high tide was at 4:44 in the afternoon. He was wrong by two hours. Lieutenant Albert thought, according to his report, it was at 10:30 at night, so the two of them were completely at odds with each other in terms of what they thought high tide was. And I asked, and Lieutenant Albert complied, let's get the right answer for this jury. Let's go look at the right answer. Let's not have the wrong answer. Even if it only means a foot or a foot and a half of difference in terms of the tide. One witness says the tide shifts three feet. They presented evidence, Mr. Albert said it was about 1.75 feet above the normal mean of the water. All evidence is clear. It was high tide when this crash occurred. Ed, can we put on the screen D-delta? And you may recall I used the tape measure to establish that at high tide, 6 feet plus 3 feet is 9 feet at the top of the marker. I believe this is what the state says is the size of the marker. And if I'm the piling, this is the marker. Three of them. And so you have your experience of having gone to see the boat, where the gunnel of that boat would be relative to the pilot that I represent right now. And whether someone sitting on that gunnel might obscure the operator's view. Of course, should the operator, under normal circumstances, if he recognizes that his view is obscured, request that the passenger make room? Of course. But that's not reckless and conscious and flagrant and gross to overlook that problem. Now, marker 13A, not 13. Prosecutor said 13. Let's be clear. There's a 13 and a 13A. Let's put 13A. The testimony is that 13A is 5 feet taller. Lieutenant Adler said it was 5 feet taller. Lieutenant Adler said it was 5 feet taller. I brought a tape measure. Three and a half inches. So, 13A, the bottom of 13A, the bottom, would be 5 feet above my head. Okay? The top would be 3 feet tall. Okay? So, 13A, that would be 8. 5 plus 3, 8 feet. That's the top of 13A. [01:20:44] Speaker ?: Okay? [01:20:45] Speaker 1: And you can see that quite clearly in exhibit I, which is a photograph that we showed you through [01:20:51] Speaker ?: Lieutenant Albert. Hold that right here. Hold. That's the top of 13A. That's the top of 13A. Okay? [01:20:57] Speaker 1: And you can see that quite clearly in exhibit I, which is a photograph that we showed you through Lieutenant Albert. Hold that right here. Hold. Southbound, going back to Ocean Reef. There's 13A. Here's 13. So, it's 12, 13, 13, 13A, 14. They're staggered over there. And if we can zoom in, you can see at this angle there's 15 obscured behind 13A. And I asked Lieutenant Albert, and again, I didn't ask him how much he gets paid. I trusted that he'd be honest. It wouldn't matter how much he's getting paid. He's a law enforcement officer. I believe, I believe he would do the job. And he did. Please tell the jury if there was a point in time where those two markers, if the operator was looking through the channel where the GPS track showed, was there a point in time where marker 13A would obscure marker 15? And he said yes. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. [01:22:31] Speaker ?: And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And I think we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. [01:22:59] Speaker 1: And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. [01:23:01] Speaker ?: And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert. And we have that in the Lieutenant Albert Albert. [01:23:06] Speaker 1: We'll find it in a second for you. But the testimony was that at 34 seconds to go. That's the number that he testified to Lieutenant Albert. 34 seconds to go. Those pilings line up that the operators do. Now let me be clear. George Pino has no memory of this. No reliable memory of the crash. And I'm not saying to you that in fact. That at that precise moment in time. With 34 seconds to go. George Pino looked up. Looking down the channel. And they were obscured. Although the prosecutor brought out from Albert. That at 34 seconds to go. It might be that green marker 15. Is not even visible. Because it's still too far away. For the human eye to see it. Don't have a reliable memory of what happened. But nor does the state. Nor does the state. But one thing we know for certain. The tape measure doesn't lie. The GPS doesn't lie. The tape measure doesn't lie. And we know for certain that marker 15. For reasons that the Coast Guard will have to explain at some other time. Why would they make a marker five feet lower than all the other ones in the channel. We're not blaming the Coast Guard. I'm waiting for the prosecutor to stand up and say the defense is blaming the Coast Guard. I'm just bringing you the facts. And that's a fact. And so when we saw the recreation of Lieutenant Thompson mimicking what the Roballo might have done. It did not give you a visual of what the operator of the boat of the Roballo was seeing in the last nine seconds. Because the camera that Lieutenant Thompson was using was in front of the windshield. Not at the position where the operator stands. This exercise of crime scene investigation. You heard from Manuel Polaris. He confirmed that marker 15 is the shortest marker in the cutter bank channel. He talked about the green paint. The green transfer onto the Roballo. No problem. Just to finish out the loop. The accident happens at 6:37.19. Someone will tell me if I got that. Excuse me. 6:37.28. 6:37.28. At 6:36.54. So let's do our math together. [01:26:09] Speaker ?: That's 6 seconds before 7:00 p.m. [01:26:10] Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 6 seconds before 6:37. Plus another 28 seconds. 28 plus 6 is 34. 34 seconds from this point until elision. 34 seconds. And that's where 13A obscures 15. If the boat is here. [01:26:19] Speaker ?: If the boat is here. [01:26:19] Speaker 1: The operator is looking down the channel. The operator's view would be obscured. And I'm going to repeat myself one more time. I don't know if that's what happens. I don't know if that's what happens. If the boat is here. The operator is looking down the channel. The operator's view would be obscured. I'm going to repeat myself one more time. I don't know if that's what happens. I'm going to repeat myself. I'm going to repeat myself one more time. I'm going to repeat myself one more time. I don't know if that's what happens. I'm going to repeat myself. I'm going to repeat myself. I'm going to repeat myself one more time. I'm going to repeat myself one more time. If the boat is here. The operator is looking down the channel. The operator's view would be obscured. I'm going to repeat myself one more time. I don't know if that's what happened. But it's not our burden to prove to you what happened. Our burden is nothing. Our burden is to appear here in court and answer. We're here. But we don't have to present any evidence. But we take the step to bring you all of the evidence for you to consider. If the operator is looking down the channel. Could the operator have counted two green on the left. Two red on the right. Continues for 10, 15, 20 seconds. And when the operator passes marker 13A. Having counted two green on the left. Two red on the right. But I just passed the last marker. The last green marker in the cutter bank channel. Veers towards the left to go to Angel Fish Creek. And says hi honey. What are you doing? I'm sending a text message. Eight seconds later there's a collision. Don't know. But the state has to explain to you. Why what happened there was more than just. As they've said so far. Mere inattention. That was Palmaris. Bengal Dahl. Detective Miami-Dade Sheriff's Office. He was the one. I think he was photographing. He was the drone guy. He said that the operation by. Lieutenant Thompson in recreating what the Robalo did was. Quote. Safe so long as you don't hit the channel marker. Well we all agree. What George Pino was doing was safe. Provided he sees the marker in time to avoid it. And let me make one other thing clear. Green marker 15 is visible. To use the word. As we understand it. It's visible. It's three by three. If you're looking straight at it. You're going to see it. If. It's like a pothole down the street. It doesn't. You can see it. But it's a tough register. You could miss it. Even though you could see it. When I say miss it. I mean. You could not recognize. Or not register that it's there. And if you do that. It means you're human. It happens to us as humans. It doesn't turn us into criminals. And Bengal Dahl. He testified that the. That the exercise. Of having Lieutenant Thompson. Replicate. Copy. The path that the Rabalo took. Showed a steady course. No weaving. No hotdogging. No thrillseeing. A slight turn. At any of the last several seconds. Would have avoided the marker. He was asked. [01:29:45] Speaker ?: Question. As the vessel. Talking now about. Lieutenant Thompson. Recreation of the Rabalo. As the vessel. Was traveling in the path. At that speed. [01:29:53] Speaker 1: In these conditions. Did it appear to be. Operating on safety. Answer. No. The only thing. That would create a problem. Is hitting the marker. Answer. Correct. [01:30:03] Speaker ?: Correct. [01:30:03] Speaker 1: This is. As I tried to explain earlier. This is the car. That's. Not driving. [01:30:08] Speaker ?: A 95 like a lunatic. But gets into an accident. [01:30:08] Speaker 1: Because for example. [01:30:09] Speaker ?: The car. Forgot to hit its blinker. [01:30:10] Speaker 1: Took a pass. Change lanes. Gets hit. And people get hurt. Did they violate a rule of the road? Yeah. [01:30:16] Speaker ?: They didn't turn on their blinker. Did somebody. Get really badly hurt. [01:30:18] Speaker 1: Or worse. Yeah. Then no one is going to jail for that. No one is going to jail for that. But. No one is going to jail for that. No one is going to jail for that. No one is going to jail for that. No one is going to jail for that. No one is going to jail for that. No one is going to jail for that. No one is going to jail for that. 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