Convicted Holly Bobo Killer Takes the Stand: Full Testimony

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: Good morning, Mr. Adams. You ready, ready? [00:00:05] Speaker 2: You can go ahead. I want to ask you, not sure you're on time today. [00:00:07] Speaker 1: Is it on? [00:00:09] Speaker 2: Yes, it is. Okay. [00:00:12] Speaker 1: Will you just please state your full name for the record? [00:00:14] Zachary Rye Adams: Zachary Rye Adams. [00:00:17] Speaker 1: And Mr. Adams, where did you grow up? [00:00:20] Zachary Rye Adams: Around the Holiday Area. [00:00:23] Speaker 1: And where did you go to school and work? Around, at the time of April the 13th, 2011. [00:00:31] Zachary Rye Adams: Where did I do what now? [00:00:32] Speaker 1: Where did you go to, where did you, where were you working and living at the time of April 13th of 2011? [00:00:38] Zachary Rye Adams: In 2011, I didn't have a normal job. I lived in, I lived in the Holiday, like I said, at 235 Adams Lane. I helped my granddaddy. He worked with the water department. I helped him with odd jobs, stuff like that. That's what I did. I tended to, we have a lot of land and stuff, so like during the summer I would mow and bush hog and stuff. [00:01:04] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:01:05] Speaker 1: I want to first, before we just handle the administrative matter really quick, do you recall reading and signing, I'd like to hand the witness, Doc. This is just the proposed edition of the Second Amendment supplemental to his petition. It's a verified copy. It's the one that he signed before a notary. I'd just like to make it part of the record, Your Honor, to authenticate it. [00:01:25] Speaker 2: It's already in the record. It's already in the record. So what will the verified copy? [00:01:28] Speaker 1: It's the verified copy is not in the record and I would just like to. Okay. Mr. Adams, if you'll, do you recognize that document as a document that you signed? If you just go back to, I think it's like the third page from the back. [00:02:20] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes, that's my signature. [00:02:22] Speaker 1: Okay. So, and that's the petition that you signed that was filed with this court? [00:02:27] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. [00:02:47] Speaker 1: Okay, Mr. Adams, I'm just going to speak to the elephant in the room, okay? [00:02:53] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [00:02:55] Speaker 1: Did you know Holly Bobo? [00:02:56] Zachary Rye Adams: No, ma'am. [00:02:58] Speaker 1: Did you have any knowledge of the Bobo family? [00:03:02] Zachary Rye Adams: Ms. Karen Bobo was my fourth grade teacher at Parsons Junior High School in middle school. [00:03:08] Speaker 1: Did you kidnap Holly Bobo? [00:03:11] Zachary Rye Adams: No, ma'am. [00:03:12] Speaker 1: Did you rape Holly Bobo? [00:03:13] Zachary Rye Adams: No, ma'am. [00:03:14] Speaker 1: Did you murder Holly Bobo? [00:03:16] Zachary Rye Adams: No, ma'am. [00:03:17] Speaker 1: Did you have anything to do with the disposal of Holly Bobo's remains? [00:03:20] Zachary Rye Adams: No, ma'am. [00:03:22] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:03:22] Speaker 1: So, I want to take you back to that, to April the 13th of 2011. [00:03:27] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [00:03:28] Speaker 1: And I just want to ask you some, some questions about what you specifically remember. Okay? So, where, you, where, you just said you were living on Adams Lane, right? [00:03:40] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes, ma'am. [00:03:40] Speaker 1: Okay. [00:03:41] Zachary Rye Adams: I probably saw my granddaddy. [00:03:43] Speaker 1: And who were you living with at that time? [00:03:45] Zachary Rye Adams: So, at this time I was living in my dad's old house and Rebecca Earp was living with me. She was my girlfriend. [00:03:51] Speaker 1: Okay. How long had you been dating Rebecca? [00:03:52] Zachary Rye Adams: We had been dating at that time about nine months to a year, I would say. [00:03:58] Speaker 1: All right. And who were you hanging out with during that time? [00:04:02] Zachary Rye Adams: I hung around Jason Autry, Shane Austin, my brother, he lived right next door. He hung out with us a lot. That's mainly about it. My girlfriend's sister and stuff would come over on the weekends. She had a boyfriend named Michael Petty. They would come on the weekends and hang out. [00:04:22] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:04:24] Speaker 1: And I just want to verify some facts about your relationship. So, just Shane Austin, just, can you just real quick tell the court about what your relationship is with Shane Austin? [00:04:34] Zachary Rye Adams: Shane, I grew up with Shane. We, we grew up in church together. We went to church together since we was very little. We went to school together. He was a year younger than me. We competed in sports together. We just, we grew up, he lived, he lived about a mile away from me. So, we lived real far away from the high school. We probably lived the farthest away from the north end of our county. So, we was the only two, you know, as far as, he was my closest friend that went to school, that I went to school with. [00:05:03] Speaker 1: Okay. And you said Dylan, you hung out with your brother Dylan. Is he your younger brother? [00:05:06] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. Four years younger than me. [00:05:08] Speaker 1: And tell me about your relationship with Jason Autry. [00:05:12] Zachary Rye Adams: He was, you know, he was older than me. He was somebody, I guess you could say, I looked up to. You know, we did a lot of drugs and stuff together. That was, that was our main. [00:05:24] Speaker 1: That was going to take me to my next question. At this time, were you a drug user? [00:05:29] Zachary Rye Adams: Very much. Daily. [00:05:31] Speaker 1: How often would you use drugs? [00:05:33] Zachary Rye Adams: Daily, I would say. [00:05:34] Speaker 1: And what types of drugs were you using at this time? [00:05:38] Zachary Rye Adams: Marijuana, morphine, methamphetamine, Xanax, Valium. [00:05:46] Speaker 1: All right, so I just want you to quickly recall what you, I want to clarify something. There's going to be things that you specifically remember, and I'm sure that there are things that you recall because of documents that you've been provided during this case, right? [00:06:04] Zachary Rye Adams: That's right. [00:06:06] Speaker 1: So, just real quickly, take us through April the 13th of 2011. What are the things that you remember about that day? [00:06:15] Zachary Rye Adams: So, that day, I remember, I specifically remember, Shane called, and I remember he called and he asked, he said, hey, Zach. He said, do you want. [00:06:25] Speaker 2: Your Honor, you're safe? [00:06:27] Speaker 1: Your Honor, we're not offering it for the truth of the matter, sir. He's just taking us technically through the day as to, as to what he did that day. [00:06:38] Zachary Rye Adams: Shane asked if I want to eat, when I answered the phone, he said, hey, you want to see if we can't overdose some Xanaxes today? And I said, Shane, don't be messing around because me and Rebecca had been arguing the night before. He said, yeah. He said, I've got some Xanaxes lined up. I need a ride. He had just previously wrecked his truck, so he didn't have a vehicle, and so he needed a ride. I said, well, Shane, you know I don't have a vehicle. I have to get Dylan to give us a ride. I said, I have to go out and get him up and stuff. And so I went out to my granddaddy's, told Dylan the plan. He was getting ready. So while he was getting ready, I think I got on the Internet and got on my Facebook, which is a password protected that I only have the password to. Nobody else gets on my Facebook page but me. Nobody has the password but me. And I got on there, and like I said, me and Rebecca had been arguing. And I think I had cussed or something on the main wall where everybody could see. And Becky Moody had commented, she said, Zach, you can't talk like that. And I think I apologized. And it didn't take Dylan like 10 minutes to get ready. So we left. We went to Shane's, picked up Shane. So Dylan didn't have enough gas in the truck to make it to Parsons. So we go to the Shell station on the Decatur County side. We get $5 in gas because the gas is more expensive at the interstate. It's cheaper in Parsons. So we was going to get more gas in Parsons. That was the plan. So I'm pumping the gas. Shane, the dealer, in the vehicle. I pump $5 in gas. And while I'm pumping, I see four or five SUVs. And I'm not for sure if they had their blue lights on. I know there was no sirens, but I could tell there was cop cars because there was police SUVs. So my antennas kind of went up because we're going to pick up drugs. And, you know, they're cops. So I go in and pay for gas. So when I come out, I ask Shane and Dylan, I said, did y'all see the cops? Couldn't get off the interstate. And they were like, what are you talking about? So it kind of irritated me that they weren't paying attention to what was going on, you know. So I get on 641. And I kind of fall in behind them to see how fast they're going. And I get Dylan's truck up to 100, and it shuts off. And they run out of my life. So I don't go 100 all the way to the Parsons. I go 60 or 70 because I know there's something going on. I don't know what's going on, but I know something's going on. I know there's – whatever's going on, there's no cops coming our way. So we get into town. What I remember, we stopped by. I think we went to – we went behind Ramey's barbecue. And we went to the drug dealer's house. I'm not sure who it was to this day. I still don't know who it is. We get out, and I thought we was going to go in, me and my brother and Shane. But when we get ready to get out and go in, Shane said, y'all can't come in. So we sit out in the driveway, and whoever's house it was, they had a bass boat. And it was a nice trotin' bass boat. The reason I know this is I love bass fishing. And so Mendel and we're looking at the bass boat, and we're talking about how nice it would be to have one. And I'm not really sure how long it took, Shane, 10 or 15 minutes. He comes back out. And we go from there. We go up one block to the Delta gas station, which is right up from behind Ramey's. It's right one block up, right beside the hospital. So when we pull in there, there's a local deputy, Tony Weber. And Tony Weber had been known to harass me. He knows I was a drug dealer and drug user. So when we get there, I told Shane, I said, Shane, you go in, pay for gas. I'm not going in. And so Shane pumps the gas, and he goes in. When he goes in, he pays, and when he comes out, he says, look. He said, when I was in there, the deputy was talking about what happened. He said, you're right, something did happen. Somebody got abducted, and my antennas kind of went up. I said, well, I knew I was right. I didn't know what happened, but I knew something. Like I said, I knew something had happened. And so I knew that we needed to buckle up. You know, we got these Xanax. Jane had all these Xanaxes on him. So I knew we needed to, you know, kind of be safer. [00:11:05] Speaker 1: So when you guys went to get the drugs, who paid for them? [00:11:10] Zachary Rye Adams: Shane. [00:11:11] Speaker 1: So, and again, I initially asked you, there's going to be things that you specifically remember and things that, throughout the course of these proceedings, that you learned. Mm-hmm. Has there anything that you have learned, based on the documents that you've received, or things throughout the course of your trial, that you didn't specifically remember at the time? [00:11:32] Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to object to that. I don't know how he can share with the court things that he has learned through other sources. That's the epitome of hearsay. That's the epitome of not firsthand knowledge. [00:11:49] Speaker 2: There was things that jogged my memory about that day. [00:12:12] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't specifically remember going to the ATM until later on. There was a moment later on when, you know, I realized Shane had a lot of money that day. And I didn't specifically remember, I remember I was irritated with Shane. Shane liked to joke a lot. And he liked to, like, make people laugh and stuff. And I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't having it that day. Because, man, Rebecca had been up, I'd been up with Rebecca arguing all night. And I was kind of irritated and I wasn't, I wasn't in no mood. And I can remember, like, when we pulled up at the ATM, I remember I specifically pulled him backwards. And now I know that's because I didn't want Shane to accuse me of stealing his pen or I didn't want him to lean over, you know. But in my statements to police, I don't, I don't believe I, I gave that. But it wasn't because it, I didn't remember, you know. [00:13:11] Speaker 1: All right, so you gave, you spoke with police several times throughout the course of this investigation? [00:13:16] Zachary Rye Adams: Every time they came to my house, every time they asked me, anytime and every time, I gave a statement. Not once did I ever, I left my job, when they come to the jail, when it, I mean, anytime they asked. [00:13:33] Speaker 1: Okay, so, real quick, I want to back up to something that you said. You said that you weren't in the mood because you had been fighting with Rebecca all night. [00:13:40] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. [00:13:40] Speaker 1: Okay, so, did Rebecca stay with you that night of the 12th? [00:13:47] Zachary Rye Adams: She did not. [00:13:51] Speaker 1: All right, and do you recall telling police that maybe she did, or were you confused? [00:14:00] Zachary Rye Adams: See, that's another thing that I didn't learn until we had the cell phone records. And, you know, I didn't, she normally stayed there all the time, but her cell phone records put her at her mama's house. Yeah. Up to 4 a.m., I think we was texting. And, so, there's no way she stayed with me that night, you know, because she got off work at 10 or 11 o'clock at Joe's video, and she would either come straight to my house or go to her mom's house. Okay. And, you know, her mom lived in Parsons, so. [00:14:29] Speaker 1: All right, so you're saying upon receiving the discovery documents, bank records, whatnot, it triggered your memory that you went to the ATM and got cash. And, that you specifically remember pulling in backwards. What vehicle were you driving at the time? [00:14:43] Zachary Rye Adams: We were driving my brother's Silverado. It was, I think it was a 2007 Pewter. It's a Steady Cab. [00:14:50] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:14:51] Zachary Rye Adams: Two-wheel drive. [00:14:52] Speaker 1: All right. And, I'm going to ask you to look at something back there. Your Honor, this is Exhibit 8, I believe. Let's see. Thank you. You're on our apologies. We're having some technical difficulties here. Thank you. Do we have a printout of the still yet? Apparently, we can't connect to the internet, so I'm going to try to get this to him a different way, maybe show him the still. [00:16:26] Speaker 2: I have it on the computer, if I can approach. Do you agree that that's Exhibit 8? [00:16:43] Speaker 1: Yes, sir. [00:16:44] Speaker 2: Is that the right number? I believe it's 8. [00:16:50] Speaker 1: Is it running? [00:16:52] Zachary Rye Adams: I have the 8-team video at the Exhibit 8. [00:16:54] Speaker 2: It's still shot. Oh, it's still shot. It's still shot in the whole video. [00:16:58] Speaker 4: I don't know what she's showing. [00:16:59] Speaker 2: It's still shot 101. [00:17:01] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the video, right? 8 is the video, 101 is the still. Yes. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. [00:17:11] Speaker ?: I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. [00:17:38] Speaker 1: I don't know what they're showing. I don't know what they're showing. May I start showing? [00:17:41] Speaker 2: You may. Let's clarify. Are you showing the whole video or just the still shot? [00:17:45] Speaker 1: I'm just going to show the still shot. [00:17:47] Speaker 2: Which is Exhibit 101. Yes. [00:17:49] Speaker 1: Mr. Adams, do you recognize that vehicle? [00:17:57] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. That's my brother's truck. [00:17:59] Speaker 1: Okay. And you're familiar with the ATM that you stopped at? [00:18:04] Zachary Rye Adams: Mm-hmm. [00:18:05] Speaker 1: So, who was in the vehicle with you? [00:18:08] Zachary Rye Adams: I'm driving. Shane's in the passenger seat. My brother's in the back. [00:18:12] Speaker 1: The time stamp on this is approximately 11:11 in the morning. [00:18:17] Zachary Rye Adams: Mm-hmm. [00:18:18] Speaker 1: Does that sound about the time that you guys would have gone to the ATM that day? [00:18:22] Zachary Rye Adams: It would've. [00:18:38] Speaker 1: So, one second, Your Honor, if you'll give me one moment. [00:18:47] Speaker ?: Sure. [00:18:47] Speaker 2: Your Honor, I just, I'm going to approach him one more time because I do, I realize I [00:19:02] Speaker 1: need to show how the vehicle went in so that, because it correlates with my client's testimony. [00:19:04] Speaker 2: So, I'm going to show the video. Your Honor, I'm going to show you the video. [00:19:37] Speaker 1: I'm going to show you the video. I'm going to show you the video. [00:19:41] Speaker ?: I'm going to show you the video. I'm going to show you the video. I'm going to show you the video. I'm going to show you the video. [00:19:44] Speaker 2: I'm going to show you the video. I'm going to show you the video. I'm going to show you the video. [00:19:47] Speaker 1: I'm going to show you the video. [00:19:57] Speaker ?: So, I'm going to show you the video. [00:20:06] Speaker 1: So, I'm starting with the video, Your Honor, at minute 11, hour 11, 10 minutes, 34 seconds, just to show how the other vehicle went in. Okay. All right, so Mr. Adams, let me play that for you. So, do you see that vehicle coming? [00:20:30] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. [00:20:31] Speaker 1: That's the direction. And which direction is your vehicle going? [00:20:43] Zachary Rye Adams: That would be going the wrong direction, like if you're going through the drive-thru in the bank, you would be, that's the wrong way. The arrows were pointed, that would be going the wrong way. [00:20:52] Speaker 1: So, when you pulled into the ATM, who, was it the driver's side or the passenger's side that were facing the ATM? [00:20:58] Zachary Rye Adams: It was the passenger side. [00:21:03] Speaker 1: So, thank you for your indulgence, Ron. Okay. Now, you were driving Dylan's vehicle. Why is that? [00:21:16] Zachary Rye Adams: Because at this time, I didn't have a vehicle. My Silverado I had wrecked, the whole front end was tore off of it, and my Nissan, the white Nissan, I didn't have access to at the time. My Grenadie had it hid somewhere that I didn't know where it was at. [00:21:34] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:21:35] Speaker 1: So, when is the, well, first of all, this ATM footage and this trip to the bank, is this something that you told your attorneys during trial? [00:21:45] Zachary Rye Adams: It, it came up, yes, it came up, but I, like I said, I didn't, at the time, I, I didn't realize it about the ATM, I didn't, I didn't remember. There was a lot of places that we stopped that, that day that I didn't really remember. [00:22:01] Speaker 1: And when is the first time that you saw this ATM footage? [00:22:05] Zachary Rye Adams: The first time I saw it was with Mr. Bates. [00:22:12] Speaker 1: Okay, so do you recall being in court back in, I think it was January or March, and there, and Mr. Boyano had a, his laptop on the, on the podium? [00:22:24] Zachary Rye Adams: That was the first time, yes, that's right. [00:22:26] Speaker 1: Is that, is that the first time that you saw that, the picture of your vehicle? [00:22:30] Zachary Rye Adams: That's right. That's right. Okay. [00:22:33] Speaker ?: All right. [00:22:34] Zachary Rye Adams: What jogged my memory is the reason I knew that is because when it, when it went, pulled in backwards, I said, that's, that's us, because that's what we did that day. Right. [00:22:45] Speaker 1: Now, you heard, you, you've been given your cell phone records, all these things that you've received in discovery, and you heard the testimony at trial. So, did you, you heard Jason Autry's testimony that y'all went to the river that day? Do you recall going to the river that day? [00:23:02] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall going to the river that day, but I went to the river so much down there, underneath the interstate bridge, it was, I would go five days out of the week, sometimes seven days. I bass fished down there, I did drugs down there, I went down there to look for arrowheads, we just went down there just to kill time, like, it was just a place we hung out. [00:23:25] Speaker 1: To be clear, when I, when I say the river, where specifically are we talking about? [00:23:30] Zachary Rye Adams: Under the interstate bridge, under I-40 bridge, exit 133. [00:23:35] Speaker 1: All right. Now, do you recall going to Victor Dinsmore's house that day? [00:23:41] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall going to Victor Dinsmore's house. [00:23:46] Speaker 1: Is it possible that you went to Victor Dinsmore's house that day? [00:23:49] Zachary Rye Adams: Could have been, I don't remember though. [00:23:52] Speaker 1: Okay. Did you, do you recall getting in a fight with Shane Austin that day? [00:23:56] Zachary Rye Adams: Uh, I did. Okay. [00:23:58] Speaker 1: And, where did that take place? [00:24:00] Zachary Rye Adams: That was at Doug and Dottie Cooley's house. [00:24:03] Speaker 1: Okay, and so did you see Mr. Dinsmore there? I did. [00:24:06] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [00:24:07] Speaker 1: And, uh, who was with you at the time? [00:24:09] Zachary Rye Adams: Jason Autry, uh, Shane and my brother was in the back, and it was, and I was driving, he was in Dylan's pickup. Okay. [00:24:17] Speaker 1: Okay. And, what was the purpose of you guys going to see Mr. Dinsmore? [00:24:21] Zachary Rye Adams: Mr. Dinsmore was a morphine connection of mine. I bought morphine from him. And, at this time, Jason or Shane, they couldn't access Victor to buy morphine from him. So, I was kind of the go-between. I would buy morphine and distribute to Jason. All right. [00:24:40] Speaker 1: So, so then you go, you guys were doing Xanax, the pills that Shane Austin purchased. [00:24:46] Zachary Rye Adams: Mm-hmm. [00:24:47] Speaker 1: And, then, uh, when, around when, what time do you think you guys went over to Ms. Dottie's? [00:24:51] Zachary Rye Adams: It was after we picked up the Xanax's. It was after that. Uh, I would say, I'm not going to speculate. [00:24:59] Speaker 1: Okay. If you don't, yeah, if you don't know for sure. [00:25:02] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't know for sure. [00:25:03] Speaker 1: Okay. So, this is not, this, this particular conviction. Is not your first run-in with the law, is it? [00:25:12] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely not. [00:25:13] Speaker 1: Okay. So, I would like to take you through, you're aware that if you would have testified at trial, that you would have had to have talked about some of your prior convictions. [00:25:25] Zachary Rye Adams: Of course. [00:25:26] Speaker 1: I'd like to run through those with you if you don't mind, okay? Okay. So, Mr. Adams, you have several convictions for possession of drug paraphernalia or possession of narcotics. Mm-hmm. [00:25:44] Zachary Rye Adams: Correct. [00:25:45] Speaker 1: Okay. When did you start doing drugs? [00:25:47] Zachary Rye Adams: Started smoking marijuana when I was 14. Started doing meth when I was 15 or 16. [00:25:52] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:25:53] Speaker 1: Okay. And this, this, there was a notice that was filed in your trial, we call it a rule 609. It just shows, saying that you're, this is the evidence that you're going to be impeached with if you testify at trial. Okay. Did you tell your attorney that you wanted to testify at trial? [00:26:11] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. [00:26:12] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:26:13] Speaker 1: And were you willing to face up and acknowledge all of these crimes that you committed? [00:26:21] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely was. [00:26:22] Speaker 1: So, you've been committed, you've been convicted of some assaults as well. [00:26:28] Zachary Rye Adams: I have. I've played, I've played out to them. Okay. [00:26:32] Speaker 1: So, there was one in 2004. Do you recall a conviction in 2004 for assault? [00:26:38] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't know the specifics, but I don't, I don't dispute it. [00:26:43] Speaker 1: Okay. And I'm, you have possession of controlled substance in 2004. Possession of drug paraphernalia in 2006. So, you have several possession charges. Is that, sound about right? [00:26:57] Zachary Rye Adams: That's great. [00:26:59] Speaker 1: Okay. You have some theft convictions as well. [00:27:03] Zachary Rye Adams: I do. You have two of those. [00:27:06] Speaker 1: All right. And in 2007, you have two assault convictions. Do you recall the circumstances around, surrounding that? [00:27:16] Zachary Rye Adams: 2007? I don't recall if, if you had more details about the incident or something. [00:27:22] Speaker 1: Well, why don't you tell me what, under what circumstances have you been convicted of assault? [00:27:28] Zachary Rye Adams: So, my grandmother, my grandmother knew, she knew that if I was in jail, sometimes, you know, she knew I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be getting high if I was in jail. And she knew that she could call the law sometimes if I was high and say, hey, look, he pushed me or he did this and she knew that I would be arrested. But I was hoping that I would be hoping that I would go to jail and, I guess, the catch Jesus moment, you know, get Jesus and get saved and start acting right. And, and, and that's happened a few times where we had gotten in an argument or something and she called the law. [00:28:04] Speaker 1: Mr. Adams, isn't it true that you, you shot your mother? [00:28:09] Zachary Rye Adams: I wouldn't, I wouldn't say I shot her. I did operate a firearm in a reckless manner that caused her to get shot. So it was my fault, but it wasn't like, like what you would say. I just, you know, shot her. [00:28:26] Speaker 1: And you weren't ever convicted or charged with that, were you? [00:28:30] Zachary Rye Adams: I was charged. [00:28:31] Speaker 1: You was charged. Okay. [00:28:33] Zachary Rye Adams: And I did plead out to a simple possession or a simple assault. [00:28:37] Speaker 1: Okay. So that's one of these assaults that you have on here. [00:28:40] Zachary Rye Adams: It was. [00:28:42] Speaker 1: And in 2011, August 30th of 2011, there was a conviction for assault on a police officer. Do you recall that? I do. [00:28:52] Zachary Rye Adams: That was the incident at Nancy's Trace State Park. And we're the park ranger. I got out and run and he chased me down. I run into some thorns and got scratched up real bad. Still got scars on the inside of my leg. [00:29:08] Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, and I missed one. July of 2011. July 25th of 2011, you have an assault conviction that you pled to for 11 months and 29 days. [00:29:17] Zachary Rye Adams: That was me and Rebecca. Me and her got into it. It was kind of a shoving incident. [00:29:22] Speaker 1: Was Rebecca using drugs at the time as well? She was. And then you also have a domestic assault June 11th of 2012. What was that from? 2012? [00:29:36] Zachary Rye Adams: I think that's where me and my granddaddy got into it. [00:29:40] Speaker 1: Okay, and you pled to 11 months and 29 days. I did. [00:29:45] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:29:46] Speaker 1: So, in your entire criminal history, have you ever been charged or convicted of any crime that was sex related? Never. [00:29:58] Zachary Rye Adams: Never. [00:29:59] Speaker ?: Okay. All right. [00:30:01] Speaker 1: Give me one second. So, do you recall sitting here in 2017 in this courtroom and watching people, witnesses give testimony and putting words into your mouth? [00:30:11] Speaker ?: I do. I do. [00:30:13] Speaker 1: Peersay. And I'd like to, first of all, what I'm going to do is I'd like to take you through some of the statements that were, that you were alleged to have made. [00:30:26] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [00:30:27] Speaker 1: Okay. Did you say some of the things that were testified to? I did. [00:30:44] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. [00:30:45] Speaker 1: And did you, did you say all the things, every single thing that was testified to, did you say? I did not. Okay. I want to go through these statements, but before we do, these statements that were given at trial had to, they were accusing you of joking about the murder of Holly Bobo. Right? [00:31:07] Zachary Rye Adams: Yeah. [00:31:08] Speaker 1: Why would you say anything like that? [00:31:11] Zachary Rye Adams: Well, I sold a lot of drugs and I found it a lot easier when I fronted drugs out if people were scared of me. I got my money, I got paid. It was just, it was just the way it is in the drug business. If people are scared of their drug dealer, they're going to pay. So, that's kind of a stupid answer, but it's the truth. I mean. [00:31:39] Speaker 1: Right. Okay. Who's Carl Statler? [00:31:42] Zachary Rye Adams: He was a, he was a friend that lived right below me. He went to school with my brother. All right. [00:31:47] Speaker 1: Did you hang out with Carl Statler during this time? [00:31:49] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. [00:31:50] Speaker 1: Do you recall going to Johnny's bar and grill with Carl? [00:31:55] Zachary Rye Adams: I do. Okay. [00:31:57] Speaker 1: And I'm sure you heard his testimony. Did you tell, who's Misty Tubbs? [00:32:03] Zachary Rye Adams: She, she was a friend of my son's mother. I don't really, never really hung around her that much. I think I've been at her house one time with Amy, my son's mom. Okay. [00:32:17] Speaker 1: And was she the bartender at Johnny's bar? [00:32:19] Zachary Rye Adams: She was. [00:32:20] Speaker 1: She was. Do you recall getting in an argument with her? [00:32:23] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't really recall. It seems like we did get into some kind of argument. She, she accused me of, I think, of doing something to her car or something. Right. [00:32:31] Speaker 1: Did you say, I'm just going to ask. Did you say, I'll kill you like I did Holly Bubba? [00:32:35] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall saying that. Okay. [00:32:37] Speaker 1: Did you tell Carl Statler that I did it? [00:32:42] Zachary Rye Adams: Uh, no. [00:32:44] Speaker 1: Is, is it possible that you have, that you made some statements similar? [00:32:49] Zachary Rye Adams: I've, I've made some opening statements before where people could have had the wrong idea. You know, uh, I remember I told Rebecca once, I said, there's already one person missing. What makes you think it can't be two? And by that, I wasn't meaning that I did anything. I was just, you know, we was arguing and just trying to get her to, she was, she was kind of griping at me. [00:33:17] Speaker 1: Were you admitting in that statement that you killed Holly Bubba? [00:33:21] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely not. All right. [00:33:25] Speaker 1: And do you recall Rebecca Earp's testimony? I do. Um, on a day that, the day after, so on April 14th of 2011, she testified that you guys were watching the news and that you said they'll never be able to find her. Did you say that? [00:33:44] Zachary Rye Adams: I believe I did say that. And now there's reasons why they're, uh, in Decatur County, there's, there's a history of, of women that goes missing and hadn't been found. There's still a bogus girl that has never been found. Nobody knows what happened to her. And this happened when I was in high school and like, uh, nobody knows anything about it. So, yeah, I, I, I made that comment. [00:34:06] Speaker 1: Okay. You, did you make that comment because you had knowledge of where Holly Bubba's remains were? [00:34:11] Zachary Rye Adams: I did not. I only made that comment because of the time period of, of, of the news interview. And, you know, it's just statistics. If, if, you know, the police doesn't find the person who was missing, it's just statistics. And that's all I was stating. You know, I guess I watched too many crime. [00:34:29] Speaker 1: You heard Rebecca Earp testify that you said that he, that you would tie her up just like you did Holly Bubba and no one would ever see her again. Did you say that? [00:34:39] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't, I don't recall making that statement. [00:34:41] Speaker 1: How about, I better not go to, she better not go to the law and, and she better not make any statements. Otherwise you would hurt her or her family. Did you say that? I may have said that. [00:34:53] Zachary Rye Adams: Was that you admitting to having anything to do with Holly Bubba? [00:34:57] Speaker 1: No. Was that you claiming to have any knowledge of the murder of Holly Bubba? [00:35:04] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [00:35:05] Speaker 1: Okay. How about around July of 2011 when you and Rebecca were at John Mitchell's house? She testified to that. Do you recall that? [00:35:15] Zachary Rye Adams: I do recall that. [00:35:18] Speaker 1: Okay. She said everything was ready to go in the back of the truck to be put under the Birdsong Bridge. And that you said, or I should say you or John Mitchell said, they said that it was Holly's remains in these Tupperware tubs that were in the back of the truck. [00:35:33] Zachary Rye Adams: The only thing is that date, the date was, we wasn't dating at this time. This was after Ben Hur broke up and I, this is, this was after Ben Hur broke up and I think she was seeing John. And I do recall that. And it had nothing to do with no remains. It was meth making material. We was just kind of, the way we was discussing it, we didn't, we just didn't want to put our business out there. [00:36:04] Speaker 1: Okay. [00:36:05] Zachary Rye Adams: But with the way she took it, I guess she took it that way. [00:36:09] Speaker 1: But you never claimed, you never told her that it was Holly Bubba's remains in those tubs? [00:36:15] Zachary Rye Adams: I never told her it was Holly Bubba's remains. I never told her it was a meth lab. [00:36:19] Speaker 1: All right. Do you recall Victor Densmore testifying? [00:36:25] Zachary Rye Adams: I do. [00:36:26] Speaker 1: All right. So you testified earlier that you do remember getting into a fight with Shane at Ms. Dottie's that day. [00:36:33] Zachary Rye Adams: I do. [00:36:34] Speaker 1: Okay. So Victor Densmore testified that you and Shane were arguing about who was going to hit it first. [00:36:39] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. And can I, can I elaborate with that? Please. And when I jumped out, Shane was like, you ain't, you ain't gonna hit me. And I said, well, I'll hit you first. And that's where that comment came up. And I did. I hit him first. And I, and the argument was something stupid. I don't know. To this day, I don't, I still don't know. It was, it was just like, well, that wall is white. No, it's not. You know, and we just jumped out. He said, you ain't gonna hit me. I said, okay. [00:37:05] Speaker 1: When you made that statement, were you in any way, uh, claiming that telling Shane that you were going to rape Holly Bobo first? [00:37:16] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [00:37:17] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:37:18] Speaker 1: Anthony Phoenix, who is he? [00:37:20] Zachary Rye Adams: He was a, a friend of mine. A drug, drug friend of mine. [00:37:24] Speaker 1: All right. Do you recall hearing Anthony Phoenix testify? [00:37:28] Zachary Rye Adams: I do. [00:37:29] Speaker 1: Now he testified that, did you, well, first of all, did you talk to Anthony Phoenix about meeting with Ms. Bobo? [00:37:35] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. [00:37:37] Speaker 1: And did you express concern to him? [00:37:40] Zachary Rye Adams: Uh, I don't think I expressed concerns. I think I just told him about the meeting. [00:37:44] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:37:45] Speaker 1: He testified that you were driving around in the car and said, let's rape this b****. [00:37:52] Zachary Rye Adams: I, uh, we was riding around and he was wanting, he was needing some money. He was wanting to rob somebody's house. And anytime I've ever stole something, I've always gotten in trouble. And he, and I could not get him to shut up about wanting to go rob somebody's house. He was wanting to be dropping off somewhere and pick him up. And I made the comment, well, if we're just going to do that, we might as well just go rape somebody. Cause anytime I, anytime I steal something, I always get in trouble. So that was, and after I said that, you know, the wheels started turning his head and I, I wouldn't admit nothing. I was just trying to get him off, off the track of going and stealing something, which he did. He didn't say nothing else about stealing nothing that night. So. [00:38:36] Speaker 1: Did you, did you say to him, I couldn't have picked a prettier b**** and it sure was fun? [00:38:41] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall ever saying that. [00:38:43] Speaker 1: Okay. So at any point in time during your conversations with Anthony Phoenix, did, did you admit to raping or killing Holly Bobo? [00:38:53] Zachary Rye Adams: Never. [00:38:55] Speaker 1: Jamie Darnell, who's he? [00:38:58] Zachary Rye Adams: He's a local friend of mine that uses drugs. [00:39:02] Speaker 1: All right. And did you guys use drugs together? Yep. Okay. You heard him testify at trial? [00:39:09] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. [00:39:10] Speaker 1: Okay. So he testified, uh, that you said about a knife that you were carrying. If you knew, if, if, if he knew. Sorry. If you knew what that knife had done, that you would probably be afraid of holding the knife. Did you say that to him? [00:39:28] Zachary Rye Adams: I, I did. That's another situation where he kept bothering me. He was wanting to buy, I had a, I've got a knife collection of my dad's and my dad had this guy named Perry Wingo to make these knives. He would make them. And I probably got about 25 or 30 of them. And I had one of these knives with me at the time. And he wanted to buy it. He kept, he kept, he kept bothering me to buy it when he was getting high and kept asking me. And I just finally, that's what I said. If you had this knife done, you wouldn't want it. And after I said that, he, he didn't ask me no more to buy that knife. But the whole goal of that was just to get him, he didn't, when I told him no the first time, it's like he wouldn't listen. You know, so I told him that just to get him to quit asking about it. [00:40:11] Speaker 1: Were you in any way implying that that knife had been used on Holly Bobo? No. How about his testimony that you pulled a pistol out and shot it over the top of his girlfriend's head out the front door? [00:40:26] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [00:40:27] Speaker 1: Did you do that? [00:40:28] Zachary Rye Adams: No. No. [00:40:30] Speaker 1: Okay. He also testified that, that same night, he had pushed you out the door and you broke down crying and started apologizing. Do you recall doing that? [00:40:41] Zachary Rye Adams: I do. I do. And we was, we was in his bathroom getting high. And I, I was, I, at this time I was an intravenous user. I used a needle. And I tried to get him to shoot up that day. And he didn't want to. And after that, you know, I felt real bad because I, I tried to, I tried to push that on him. And I apologize for that. You know, and I, and that's what I, that's what I. Okay. [00:41:07] Speaker 1: So you were not apologize, you were not apologizing for something you did to Holly Bobo? [00:41:12] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [00:41:13] Speaker 1: And he also testified that you needed to clear your name, that he couldn't be coming back around his house. You need to clear your name. And he said that you said that you couldn't do that because you were too far involved into it. And there was no way that you could do that. I did. [00:41:30] Zachary Rye Adams: And, and there's reasons. I thought he was talking about you to clear your name as far as like being a, the local drug dealer, being the drug, local drug user. And I told him I was too far in, I can't do that. Like I was selling dope every day at this time. And yeah, I absolutely said that. But he, that was a mischaracterization. All right. [00:41:51] Speaker 1: So were you, when you said that you were, was there any implication from you that you had anything to do that you were too far deep into Holly Bobo's murder? [00:41:59] Zachary Rye Adams: No, absolutely not. [00:42:01] Speaker ?: Corey Rivers. [00:42:02] Speaker 1: Do you know who that is? I do know who that is. [00:42:06] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [00:42:07] Speaker 1: And you saw him testify. [00:42:08] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. [00:42:09] Speaker 1: So who was Corey Rivers? [00:42:11] Zachary Rye Adams: He was just somebody that was at Williamson County Jail in the pod that I was with. Okay. [00:42:17] Speaker 1: And does it sound about right that it was around sometime between April and June of 2016? That sounds about right. He testified that you said that you went to him and asked him if, if God would ever forgive you. Did you do that? Never. And he also testified that you told him that you and a couple of your friends got drunk and went into the woods with this girl. One thing led to another. And I was there for the worst of it. Did you have any conversation with Corey Rivers that was anything like that? [00:42:52] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [00:42:53] Speaker 1: Have you had conversations at all with Corey Rivers? I did. [00:42:57] Zachary Rye Adams: I did talk to Corey. [00:42:58] Speaker 1: Okay. What did those conversations entail? [00:43:01] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't really recall. I may, I may have told him what was going on, like what, what was going on with the case. You know, what, what the state was alleging. That, that's the only thing that, where he, you know. [00:43:16] Speaker 1: Did you testify to him, or I'm sorry, excuse me, not testify. He testified that you said that the bottom side was found in one part of Tennessee and some other pieces was found in other places. Did you say that to him? I don't recall saying that. And that it had been chopped up? [00:43:32] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall saying that either. [00:43:34] Speaker 1: Did you at any time in any of your conversations with Mr. Rivers admit to killing, raping, or, or kidnapping Holly Bubba? [00:43:45] Speaker 5: Never. [00:43:50] Zachary Rye Adams: All right. [00:43:51] Speaker 1: How about Sean Cooper? Remember him? [00:43:54] Zachary Rye Adams: I remember Sean. [00:43:55] Speaker 1: Who's he? [00:43:56] Zachary Rye Adams: He was, he was, so when I was at Chester County jail, he was in the little room right there with the, with, with us. I think it was three of us. [00:44:07] Speaker 1: Okay. Now, he testified that you asked him to tell your brother, Dylan, that if he doesn't keep his mouth shut, that you're going to put him in a hole beside her. [00:44:18] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall saying that. I do tell, I do remind, remember telling him, telling him that he needs to tell my brother. I think he was, I think he was, had charges in Obayan County. And that's where my brother was being held. I said, well, you get up there, you need to tell my brother, Dylan, that was, you need to keep his damn mouth shut. Because the lies he's telling has got me arrested for something I didn't do. [00:44:37] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:44:38] Speaker 1: Did you in any way admit to Mr. Cooper or imply to Mr. Cooper that you were involved in Holly Bubba's death? No. [00:44:48] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [00:44:49] Speaker 1: Okay. How about Jason Kirk? Do you know who that is? [00:44:52] Zachary Rye Adams: I think that was the other guy that was, that was in there. All right. [00:44:56] Speaker 1: And so he testified that he overheard you tell Mr. Cooper that, will you give my brother a message for me? Tell him if he doesn't keep his fucking mouth shut, I'm going to plant him next to that bitch. Did you say that? [00:45:10] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [00:45:11] Speaker ?: Did you make any statements? [00:45:12] Speaker 1: You know, Mr. Kirk also testified that you were bragging about the bond that was put on you. And he testified that you said, I guess you got a kill a bitch to get that kind of bail around here. [00:45:28] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall specifically saying that, but I did, I did make a comment about the bail being so high. And, and the way the judge, when I left the courtroom at Chester County, the judge made an announcement to the court that that was the, the guy with, for the Holly Bobo deal. Like it was, it was kind of a messed up little deal, but I, I got angry and, but I don't specifically recall just saying that. [00:45:53] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:45:54] Speaker 1: Chris Swift. [00:45:56] Zachary Rye Adams: He was another person that at Williamson County jail. Okay. [00:46:00] Speaker 1: He said that you went up to him and asked him, would God forgive you? Did you ask him if? [00:46:05] Zachary Rye Adams: The only thing I talked to Chris Swift about was making meth and his meth use and stuff like that, but no. All right. [00:46:13] Speaker 1: So he testified that you told him that you weren't involved in the killing, but you were involved in the worst part of it. [00:46:22] Zachary Rye Adams: Never said that. [00:46:25] Speaker 1: And he testified that you, that, that you told him about some boy who, who hung himself and that, and that he and his brother were involved and your brother were involved in the killing. Did you mention anything to Mr. Swift about Shane Austin? [00:46:40] Zachary Rye Adams: I may have mentioned that, that Shane and my brother were, were, well, my brother was being charged and Shane was a friend of ours and he had hung himself. But other than that, no. [00:46:50] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:46:51] Speaker 1: Did you tell Mr. Swift that they were in the back room having sex with? No. [00:46:57] Zachary Rye Adams: With Holly? No. [00:46:59] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:47:00] Speaker 1: Did you tell Mr. Swift that something went bad wrong and he wasn't, and that you were involved in the worst part of it? [00:47:07] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [00:47:08] Speaker 1: Okay. Did you tell Mr. Swift that as soon as the trial's over, that you're going home, they didn't have a body and they didn't have a murder weapon nor a motive? [00:47:15] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [00:47:16] Speaker ?: All right. [00:47:16] Speaker 1: Did you have any, did you call Mr. Swift from another inmates? [00:47:29] Zachary Rye Adams: He gave me a phone number and I believe I did call him. Okay. [00:47:34] Speaker 1: And did you tell him that you probably wouldn't be talking to anybody else and to take care of himself? [00:47:43] Zachary Rye Adams: Uh, I don't, I don't remember what I said in that phone call. I'm sure it was recorded if it was a jail phone call. [00:47:48] Speaker 1: Okay. Did you threaten Mr. Swift in any way? [00:47:50] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely not. Okay. [00:47:52] Speaker 1: All right. I want to talk to you a little bit now. You said earlier that you had been visited by police on multiple occasions. [00:48:06] Speaker ?: Okay. Okay. [00:48:08] Speaker 1: So, well, first of all, so I'm looking at all of these statements that you admitted to saying to witnesses that testified. And so as I understand it, there were some of the things that were testified to by, by various people that you knew outside of jail. Right. That, that you admitted to saying, right? [00:48:30] Zachary Rye Adams: Yeah. [00:48:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. The jail, the people that you knew in jail, you didn't say any of those things? [00:48:37] Zachary Rye Adams: Mm-mm. [00:48:38] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:48:39] Speaker 1: Do you recall- [00:48:43] Zachary Rye Adams: I didn't know them well enough to talk to them like that. You know. [00:48:47] Speaker 1: Do you recall meeting with Karen Bobo? [00:48:52] Speaker ?: I do. [00:48:53] Zachary Rye Adams: Her and Clint. [00:48:55] Speaker 1: Okay. And you heard her testify at trial, right? [00:48:58] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. [00:48:59] Speaker 1: And she testified that when you met with her and Clint described what the kidnapper looked like, her testimony was that you said that's Shane. Is that what you said? [00:49:11] Zachary Rye Adams: That's not what I said. I said that's the same height as Shane, but Shane has red hair and he was with me. [00:49:17] Speaker 1: Okay. Did, did you tell Ms. Bobo that you would do whatever you could to help? [00:49:24] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. [00:49:29] Speaker 1: All right, so in all of the interactions that you've had with police, let's go back to the first time that they came out to your house. Did you, have you cooperated with law enforcement during the course of the investigation? [00:49:46] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes, I gave, I gave my statement to where I was that day. Uh, yes. [00:49:52] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:49:53] Speaker 1: And did you allow them to search your house? [00:49:57] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. [00:49:58] Speaker 1: Did you allow them to search under your house? [00:50:01] Zachary Rye Adams: Anywhere there could be a body or, you know, I told, I told the FBI and the TBI, y'all can come in here and look anywhere y'all want. Y'all start pulling drawers up, I'm going to ask you to leave. You know, you look anywhere a person can be, you know, anywhere you want to look. Anytime they came to me, I would answer questions. Any, anything. Anytime, I mean, at jails, anywhere, anywhere they wanted to question me. They'd bring me off the work crew at a jail and I would go in and talk. You know, I knew, I didn't really know my rights, but I knew I didn't have to talk to them. But I did, I wanted to help. [00:50:36] Speaker 1: Did you, do you recall hearing testimony about officers observing you in those early days vacuuming out your car? [00:50:47] Zachary Rye Adams: I vacuumed out my truck all the time. If you looked at my vehicles, I never, man, I vacuumed my trucks out all the time. That was, that was a regular occurrence. You can ask anybody that knows me. All my vehicles were clean. I kept a shop vac at the house just for that. [00:51:06] Speaker 1: What about the mattresses that were leaning up against the house? [00:51:09] Zachary Rye Adams: So when Rebecca moved in, we moved all her stuff. I had a double wide 16 foot trailer. We moved all her stuff on that. And the mattress, I think there was three mattresses. She had two mattresses and the box set. One of the mattresses blew off whenever we were on 641 when we was coming. So we went, we took everything and took everything off the trailer and stuff. And I went back and got that mattress. And she said, look, don't bring it in. We're going to clean it up and stuff. We don't, I don't really need that. It just makes the bed look higher. And so I was like, well, what do you want me to do with it? And she's like, I don't care. Just don't bring it in here. We don't have nowhere to put it. You know, I said, okay. So I, I, I leaned it up against the backside of the house. And every time I would mow or every time it would get dirty or something, I'd either wash it off or I would blow it off with the leaf blower. Because I was under the impression she was still going to use it. I didn't know, you know, what to do with it. It was hers. I wasn't going to throw it away. It was going to, that would have caused the argument. [00:52:04] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:52:05] Speaker 1: Can you give me one moment, Your Honor? All right. So, have you had a chance to review some of the, first of all, do you know what an IR is? I do now. [00:52:28] Zachary Rye Adams: It's the investigative report. Okay. [00:52:31] Speaker 1: So, I am, have you had a chance to review the IRs that were related to statements that you made to law enforcement? [00:52:41] Zachary Rye Adams: I have. [00:52:42] Speaker 1: Do you recall right around April 23rd of 2011 with them coming out to your, law enforcement coming out to your house? [00:52:54] Zachary Rye Adams: What was the date again? [00:52:57] Speaker 1: April the 23rd of 2011. [00:52:59] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. Who was the law enforcement officer? [00:53:01] Speaker 1: Matt, FBI Special Agent Matt Ross. [00:53:04] Zachary Rye Adams: Oh, that's when he took the pictures? Yes. Yeah. That's when I was all scratched up from running from, from the police in Natsus Trace. But, it was nothing for me to have scratches. I grew marijuana back behind my house. It's nothing but clear cut. And, that was another, you know, the time when they were talking about I ran behind the house. And, if I'm not mistaken, Mr. Rainey also testified that he knew where my marijuana plants were. Which, he did. When they come searching, they, they, I had to move everything. I had about 5,000 marijuana plants when all this went on. And, when Miss Bubba went missing, I moved everything outside. I had just got them started and I had moved everything outside. Well, when everybody started searching, they come through, I had to move everything. And, when law enforcement came that one time and talked to me, that's what I ran around behind the house doing. Was moving all the marijuana plants that I had there. [00:53:58] Speaker 1: Okay. Did you provide your best account of what you did that day to law enforcement? I did. [00:54:06] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. I didn't tell them every time I used the bathroom, though. I mean, I didn't tell them, you know, I was a drug user. I told them where I went, you know. [00:54:18] Speaker 1: Okay. Did you, do you think that there were things that you did throughout that day that you didn't include in your statements to law enforcement? Absolutely. [00:54:26] Zachary Rye Adams: But, I didn't lie. I didn't, you know, I gave the best, you know, there was people that called that morning that I didn't remember talking to. That later on that I realized that, you know, I talked to. You know, like going to the river. There was nothing that happened that morning going to the river. I don't, I don't specifically recall going to the river that morning with Jason. But, we went down there so much. I'm not disputing that. Okay. [00:54:52] Speaker 1: And, do you recall right around July 6th of 2011, you were visited by S.A. Dicus and investigator Inman? Mm-hmm. Do you recall that? I do. [00:55:05] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [00:55:06] Speaker 1: And, they came to your residence? [00:55:07] Zachary Rye Adams: Yeah, I think it was my granddaddy's. I think it was on the back porch that time. [00:55:11] Speaker 1: Alright. And, did you give them an accounting of what you did? I did. On April the 13th, 2011? I did. Okay. I think they, did you tell them that you had gone to the coon hunt or that you didn't go? [00:55:24] Zachary Rye Adams: I didn't go. I didn't have no way. And, I didn't go to stuff like that. I mean, when I was younger I did, but I didn't go to stuff like that. I was a drug dealer. I was a drug dealer. Like, I didn't go out in public much. Not a lot of people liked me, you know. But, I had a known reputation in the neighborhood for being the local drug dealer and drug user. So, just, you know, I could go in a gas station and people, like, people would look at me different, you know. Of course, I would give them the stink eye or I would, you know, I just really, I gave them that perspective. Like, I wasn't the person to be messed with, you know. I did. [00:56:02] Speaker 1: Okay. So, you were visited again by Agent Dykus on August 28th of 2012. I believe that was in the Benton County Jail. Yep. [00:56:12] Zachary Rye Adams: In the basement. In the investigator's office. Okay. [00:56:15] Speaker 1: Did you ever ask for an attorney when you were speaking with law enforcement? [00:56:18] Zachary Rye Adams: Never. [00:56:19] Speaker 1: Did you voluntarily give them information? [00:56:21] Zachary Rye Adams: I take that back. When I talked to Jeff Jackson and him, I think I had asked for an attorney at the end. But, during this meeting I did with Terry Dykus at Benton County, I didn't know. Okay. [00:56:35] Speaker 1: And, did you voluntarily sign a release for your phone records? [00:56:38] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. Anything that they needed. Anything you, anything. You wanted my DNA. Anything I could have did. I would have did. [00:56:47] Speaker 1: Okay. Even if that, so, would you have done anything that you could do even if it meant? [00:56:52] Zachary Rye Adams: There were so many cops in the neighborhood. We would have did anything to get the police to solve this. To get the TBI and the cops out of our neighborhood. It was so hard for us. On us drug dealers and stuff. We wanted the police to solve this thing. You know. Okay. [00:57:08] Speaker 1: Do you recall meeting with Mr. Dykus, or sorry, SA Dykus on May 22nd of 2013. And I believe that was at the Decatur County Sheriff's Office. [00:57:20] Zachary Rye Adams: Go into specifics on that. [00:57:22] Speaker 1: There was an investigator, Cunningham. Oh, yeah. [00:57:26] Zachary Rye Adams: An investigator, Meigs. About the leather coat? Yes. [00:57:29] Speaker 1: Yes. So, you gave a voluntary statement to law enforcement at that time? [00:57:33] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. I did. You know, that I didn't know the specifics of what had happened or whatever. But there was a leather coat in my brother's truck. I didn't know who it belonged to. I know my brother did. At this time, I don't think he had a girlfriend. And I was willing to do anything I could to help. And I called him in. I said, hey, look, did Ms. Bobo have a leather coat on? And they said, no, this, you know, this didn't. Okay. I was willing to do anything, you know. [00:58:04] Speaker 1: Do you recall again meeting with, or speaking with law enforcement, September. Let me make sure that I'm on the right one. Hold on one second. September 9th of 2013, with Agent Joe Walker. Did you meet with him? [00:58:24] Zachary Rye Adams: I did, at the Benton County Jail. He brought me in from where it was released. Yeah, I remember that. [00:58:29] Speaker 1: Okay. And did you, again, give him a statement about your whereabouts on April the 13th, 2011? [00:58:38] Speaker ?: Yes. [00:58:39] Zachary Rye Adams: Gave him, told him where I was. [00:58:41] Speaker 1: Did your test, did any of your testimony change? Did you add any additional information to him that you recall? [00:58:50] Zachary Rye Adams: Not, not that I specifically recall. Uh, not that I recall. Okay. [00:59:00] Speaker 1: Do you recall, uh, Mr. Walker asking, saying, your name keeps coming up? [00:59:04] Zachary Rye Adams: Yeah, I remember that. Okay. [00:59:08] Speaker 1: Okay. So, did you address that with Mr. Walker at all? [00:59:12] Zachary Rye Adams: Yeah, I think, I think I told him, uh, I'd, I'd make some jokes. Made some statements. Okay. [00:59:19] Speaker ?: All right. [00:59:20] Speaker 1: And what about. Yeah. On February the 28th, 2014, when you, uh, that's when you spoke with. Today I got arrested. That's when you got arrested. [00:59:31] Zachary Rye Adams: Today I got arrested. [00:59:32] Speaker 1: Jeff. That's today you got arrested. Jeff Jackson. And, uh, Agent Lewis and Carter. [00:59:37] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes, ma'am. [00:59:39] Speaker 1: Tell me about that interaction. [00:59:41] Zachary Rye Adams: So, February 28th, I stayed with, I was with a girl named Trish Evans. She had a house in Camden. So, I, I had stayed the night with her. And that morning I was getting up. I was going to, I was going to help a guy that owned a local plumbing shop up there. He's not sure his name, I think his last name was Farmer. I was going to help him that morning. And Richard caught him, went by my house and seen there was police everywhere. And I think it was Linda Campbell is the one that called and said, hey, there's cops all at your house. What's going on? So, I thought it was the local cops. I thought they, I had done so to a confidential informant, sold some drugs or something. I didn't really know what was going on. So, I called the Cater County Sheriff's Department. And I said, hey, look, what's going on? Why is, why is the police at my house? What are y'all doing? I said, Zach, we don't know what's going on. It ain't us. So, I get, I called. And I said, we all go back by there and see what kind of cops it is. So, they went back by and they said, well, it's got to be TBI. So, I went on the internet looking for the number for the TBI. They don't really have a number. So, I just called 1-800-TBI-FIND. And I asked them, I said, what are y'all doing at my house? And they asked, well, where are you at? They wouldn't answer my question. I lied. I said, I'm in Lexington. What are y'all doing at my house? And they said, well, we need to talk to you. And I said, well, I'm working right now. We need to get here. And I said, well, I don't have a driver's license. So, I hung up, took my phone apart. And I called my girlfriend. I said, TBI's at my house. And I said, I really don't know what this is about. And she said, well, what do you want to do? And I said, well, I need to go see what this is about. You know, this is, you know, there's lots of law there. So, I said, I'm just going to have her come pick me up. There's no need in you driving. She didn't have no license. And so, I called TBI back. I said, well, y'all come pick me up at the McDonald's and cabin. I'm leery of police anyway. So, I'm going to meet at a public spot. So, they came. And I bought, I called them back and I asked. I said, how many of them, how many TBI agents are there? And I think they said three or four. I bought everybody. I went in to McDonald's. I bought everybody Sprites and drinks and sausage and biscuits. And just, I bought everything. And got in the vehicle at the McDonald's with Jeff Jackson. And I don't know the other agent's name. I know Jeff Jackson was in the back. We leave McDonald's and they pull right in the cabin bank parking lot. Tell me to get out. And the whole time, Jeff Jackson's got his hand on his gun. And I'm thinking, when I get in that vehicle, I thought I was going to get shot. I didn't know what was going on. He never took his hand off his gun. They pull me out. They search me. Take my pocket knife. And we ride to my house. And I'm asking like, what's this about? You know, what's this about? And they make statements that my brother has made statements. I said, Dylan, he's in Federal Holden. What's he made statements about? And we get to my house. And it's a circus. Like, they had the driveway blocked off. They had the TBI mobile command unit in my granddaddy's front yard. And it was just, it was circus. It was a circus. It was a circus. And. [01:03:16] Speaker 1: So let me just make this, let me, you, you volunteer, you sought out law enforcement. I did. When you found out that they were looking for you. And you invited them to come meet with you. I did. [01:03:29] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. I called them. [01:03:31] Speaker ?: Okay. [01:03:32] Zachary Rye Adams: They had already knocked the door down and was in my house. [01:03:36] Speaker ?: All right. [01:03:37] Zachary Rye Adams: So. [01:03:38] Speaker 1: I want to ask you one last set of questions. Okay. At your trial in this case, has your defense always been straight up innocence? [01:03:50] Zachary Rye Adams: Always. Till I, till my last breath on this earth, I will, it's always going to be innocent. [01:04:00] Speaker 1: And why didn't you testify? [01:04:02] Zachary Rye Adams: The reason I didn't testify, a week before my trial, Jennifer Thompson had my mom and my cousin come in from Atlanta. My mom had to take off work and come up here. And they, we all met at the, at the Savannah jail over here in the library. And they had already talked before this and planned all this out. But they got up there. She, she got my mom up there and my cousin up there. And, and my mom made me promise that I wouldn't testify because all the bad things that the state was going to try to stay about me. And, and you know, they just didn't want me to testify. And. [01:04:39] Speaker 1: Did, did any of your attorneys ever meet with you and prepare testimony for you? Never. Did they just, did you discuss taking the stand with Ms. Thompson? I did. [01:04:51] Zachary Rye Adams: Multiple times. And she, she, the way I guess that she practiced, she tried to say that, you know, she didn't want me to. She, she didn't want me to at all. Okay. I was advised not to. I wanted to. I wanted to. I wanted to bad. [01:05:05] Speaker 1: How about with Mr. Simmons? Did you have that conversation with him? [01:05:08] Zachary Rye Adams: I didn't. Not that I recall. [01:05:10] Speaker 1: Okay. Did, did the pressure from your family or the, and the advice you received from counsel that that in any way affect your decision not to testify? [01:05:19] Zachary Rye Adams: It did. It did. [01:05:21] Speaker 1: Do you recall? Judge McGinley asking you questions saying, is this your decision not to testify? [01:05:29] Zachary Rye Adams: He did. He did. He did ask me that. And, and at the time I didn't realize I could have said yes. You know, and when he gets my lawyer, you know, I just was going with what Jennifer and we paid her a lot of money. She was a paid attorney. We paid her a lot of money and I was told to listen to her. And that's what I did. [01:05:50] Speaker 1: Did Ms. Thompson ever sit down and discuss any kind of defense strategy with you? [01:05:57] Speaker ?: Yeah. [01:05:58] Zachary Rye Adams: We met a lot, but like, we met a lot. Like the discovery. I never got to see all the discovery. Like she tried to fix it up at the Williamson County jail where I could get a computer and get the hard drive. Like, and the sheriff there wasn't trying to make anything extra, like special for me. So now you can get it mailed in. What the sheriff didn't realize is it would have filled four or five cells up. And I never got to see all the discovery. I never, you know, we met a lot, but a lot of it was just, you know, she just asking where I was and just, you know, it just, she was unorganized, very unorganized. [01:06:35] Speaker 1: So being a part of, of this post conviction relief process, observing Mr. Bates and I day and [01:06:48] Zachary Rye Adams: night difference. [01:06:49] Speaker 1: So knowing now, if you had known then what you know now, would you have testified? [01:06:59] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely. [01:07:00] Speaker 1: And I just have to ask these questions one more time. Did you kidnap Holly Bobo? [01:07:09] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [01:07:10] Speaker 1: Did you rape Holly Bobo? No. Did you murder Holly Bobo? [01:07:16] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [01:07:17] Speaker 1: Did you have anything to do with the disposal of her remains? [01:07:20] Zachary Rye Adams: No. And if I were to knew anything about this, it could have helped in any way possible. I would have. [01:07:25] Speaker 1: And is everything that you testified today the truth? [01:07:29] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely. [01:07:30] Speaker 1: That's all I have, Your Honor. [01:07:32] Speaker 4: Thank you, Your Honor. At 8:19 in the morning on April 13th of 2011, you texted Jason Autry. Okay. Never mentioned that to the police. [01:07:49] Zachary Rye Adams: I didn't mention every text I made. I didn't tell them every time I used the bathroom. [01:07:54] Speaker 4: 8:30, you called Jason Autry on the morning of April 13th, 2011. [01:08:00] Zachary Rye Adams: Ms. Weyer, there was a lot of phone calls I made that morning. There was a lot of people I talked to that morning that I don't recall talking to. [01:08:06] Speaker 4: 8:35 on the morning of April 13th, 2011, you called your grandfather, Dick Adams. 8:37 in the morning of April 13th, 2011, you're calling Jason Autry again. Let me guess, you don't remember that, right? [01:08:28] Zachary Rye Adams: If I would have, I would have. [01:08:31] Speaker 4: You would have what? [01:08:33] Zachary Rye Adams: If I would have remembered, I would tell you. Okay. I'm not going to sit here. [01:08:38] Speaker 4: Okay. 8:38, Jason Autry calls you back. Again, I'm talking about the morning of April 13th, 2011. The morning that has been your whole life since it happened. Since April 13th, 2011, that day has consumed your life. And nobody until this moment has heard that information. You didn't tell one officer. [01:09:10] Zachary Rye Adams: I did not. [01:09:11] Speaker 4: Wait, I had nothing to do with Holly Bobo's disappearance. I was on the phone with my grandfather. I was texting with my buddy, Jason Autry. Never mentioned it, did you? Okay. [01:09:26] Zachary Rye Adams: There's a lot of things I did that day that I didn't mention. [01:09:28] Speaker 4: Right. [01:09:29] Zachary Rye Adams: And it wasn't because I was lying or trying to be, it's because I just didn't remember. I was a drug user. I didn't remember everything I did that day, but I didn't lie about where I was at. Absolutely did not. [01:09:40] Speaker 4: You like to leave things out. Huh? You like to leave things out sometimes when the police talk to you. [01:09:45] Zachary Rye Adams: No, no. Okay. [01:09:47] Speaker 4: No. 8:38, you're calling Jason Autry. 8:53, you're calling Jason Autry. What was the urgency of getting hold of Jason Autry that morning? [01:09:57] Zachary Rye Adams: We talk all the time. Okay. We probably talked every day. Pull the phone records before that day, April 12th, April 11th. How many times did we talk to Jason Autry? I talked to Jason Autry weekly. I mean, every day I talked to Jason. There was probably the day that went by during that time period that we didn't talk. We used drugs every day. Of course we talked. Y'all were close. Absolutely. We talked every day. Y'all were close. [01:10:21] Speaker 4: I looked up to him. Right. 8:58, you get a call from Brandon Williams. [01:10:26] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes, ma'am. [01:10:28] Speaker 4: 9:10, you get a call from Brandon Williams. [01:10:31] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes, ma'am. We was talking. Brandon Williams was a friend of mine and Rebecca's. Yes, I was talking to him. We were trying to get him to help get on my side and get Rebecca back on my side. [01:10:42] Speaker 4: Rebecca Earp testified at the trial. Of course she was not telling the truth, right? She was mistaken about what she remembered. She wasn't telling the truth. She told the jury you left early that morning to go scrapping. Turns out you didn't go scrapping, right? Remember that? I didn't. [01:11:01] Zachary Rye Adams: Look at the scrap records. I didn't. I scrapped before, I think it was two days before that and a couple days after that. She told her that's where you. And how was she at my house? If she was, how did, if she, she testified that she was at my house. How is she at my house if her cell phone is peeing at 4:00 a.m. at her mama's house? How is she at my house? [01:11:20] Speaker 4: I don't know. Somebody's lying. At nine, between 9:50 and 10:32 in the morning, you're wearing your phone out. Do you remember that? 9:50 and 10:32 from the Bird Song Tower, which is the closest to the interstate, which is the closest to the underpass, which is the closest to where you put a bullet through the head of Holly Bobo. Bobo, you are wearing your phone out. Do you remember who all you texted and called? You called Joe's Video. Shane Austin is calling you. You're calling Michael Hughley. Is he one of your drug buddies, too? He is. Okay. You're calling Joe's Video again. Who works at Joe's Video? Rebecca Harp. You called Joe's Video again at 10:15. At 10:15, you're calling your grandfather again, trying to find him. At 10:16, you're calling your grandfather. 10:18, you get a text. 10:18, you send a text. 10:19, Shane Austin is calling saying, "Where are you, man?" Right? Where are you, man? This plan is about to fall apart and blow up. Where are you, man? 10:19, you call Joe's Video again, trying to get a hold of Rebecca because y'all were having a fight, right? 10:35, you call Dick Adams, your grandfather, again. 10:38, you call Rebecca. 10:49, Rebecca texts you, and lo and behold, and the whole world heard it, and there's no denying it, and nobody cares that at 11:12 in the morning of April 13, 2011, where were you? [01:13:08] Zachary Rye Adams: Is that my house? [01:13:11] Speaker 4: At 11:12 in the morning on April 13, 2011? [01:13:16] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall exactly where, I don't recall the exact time, like I just testified to. The first thing I remember that morning is Shane calling. He asked if we wanted to overdose on his annexes. Just like I said, I went out to my brothers, got him up, got on Facebook. [01:13:35] Speaker 4: No, you didn't. Because there's evidence in the file, and I'm sure you've seen it, because your lawyers that were sitting here today have shown it to you, and the lawyers, the 16-member team that you had representing you at trial, they showed you everything. There's no proof that you were on that computer at home. It was a mobile posting from your Facebook page. The last activity was at 6:00 in the morning. Is that coming back to you? [01:14:02] Zachary Rye Adams: That's wrong. [01:14:03] Speaker 4: At 11:12 in the morning of April 13, 2011, where were you? Let me give you a hint. The bank. Does that sound right? [01:14:19] Speaker ?: I don't recall. [01:14:21] Speaker 4: Isn't that what this is all about? Your lawyer stood up months ago and said, our client was at the bank. May I finish? They stood up months ago and told this judge that on April 13, 2011, the last day that Holly Bobo took breath on this earth, my client could not have committed the crime that a jury convicted Yvonne of because he was at the ATM in Parsons. Dun-da-dun! Mystery solved. We are so sorry. 11:12 in the morning is the whole point of this hearing. For you to convince Judge Bradbury that there's no way you could have raped, murdered, and kidnapped Holly Bobo because you were pulled in backward at the ATM at 11:12 in the morning on April 13, right? That's correct. [01:15:30] Zachary Rye Adams: That is correct. Right? That's correct. [01:15:33] Speaker 4: But we got no proof of that. [01:15:36] Zachary Rye Adams: That truck. Okay. [01:15:38] Speaker 4: The truck that you can't see anybody in. [01:15:39] Zachary Rye Adams: That truck is my brother's truck. I was driving that truck. Okay. Was there any other vehicles that was pulled in the ATM backwards that day? [01:15:46] Speaker 4: I don't know. Couldn't tell you. [01:15:48] Zachary Rye Adams: If we had the real ATM video, we would know, wouldn't we? [01:15:51] Speaker 4: We've seen it. [01:15:52] Zachary Rye Adams: That's not the real ATM video. ATM video shows the person that's punching the numbers in. If we had that, we would see Shane Austin punching the numbers in. Okay. [01:16:01] Speaker 4: And here's- [01:16:02] Zachary Rye Adams: And you would see me in the driver's seat and possibly my brother in the back. [01:16:05] Speaker 4: You know what the jury heard from your cell phone expert? Not the state of Tennessee's, though he agreed with it, but from the very expert. Remember Jonathan Reeves? Remember that name? I do. But you attended the trial. You were here every day, right? I did. Ms. Thompson puts you in a new suit every day from her husband, right? She put makeup on you, right? I do. [01:16:36] Zachary Rye Adams: You're right. [01:16:37] Speaker 4: I mean, you sat here. You listened to the witnesses. You took notes, right? I did. You were engaged in the trial, right? I did. You're pulling on their suit coat and asking them questions. You're interacting with them. Jonathan Reeves, your cell phone expert, told the jury Zach Adams' phone was pinging off of the Parsons' cell tower at 11:16 in the morning. Remember that? [01:17:12] Zachary Rye Adams: That's right, along with Shane Austin and Dylan Adams. [01:17:14] Speaker 4: Right. We're all in Parsons. That's right. We're all in Parsons at 11:16 in the morning. The jury heard it. They didn't seem to care much about it, did they? [01:17:27] Zachary Rye Adams: The jury heard a lot of things, a lot of lies. Right. [01:17:31] Speaker 4: Everybody was lying, weren't they? [01:17:32] Zachary Rye Adams: I wouldn't say everybody, but there was a lot of lies told in that case, in that trial. Lots of lies. [01:17:39] Speaker 4: Let me ask you about the trial a little bit more. You mentioned that if you had, jeez, if I had just known that I had the opportunity not to testify, or to testify, I would have done that. I would have done that. I'm sure you've seen this, and we'll talk about it in a little more depth in a minute. There's a document, a series of documents that your lawyer's team put together titled, Zack's Stupid Mouth. Remember that? Did you ever see that? [01:18:12] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [01:18:13] Speaker 4: It outlines everything that Ms. Etu has just talked to you about. In addition, everything else. Everything else that you said to anybody with ears between April 13, 2011, up to today. Because you're still talking about it. But at the trial, after the state rested, right, Judge McGinley looked to your team and said, will there be any defense proof? Does your client want to testify? Remember that? [01:18:46] Zachary Rye Adams: What was the question again? [01:18:48] Speaker 4: Do you remember being asked if you wanted to testify at your own trial? I did. Okay. You're on trial for the rape, murder, and kidnapping of Holly Bobo. The judge asked you if you wanted to testify. Did you answer the judge right away, or did you talk to your lawyers about it? [01:19:06] Zachary Rye Adams: I believe I answered right away. [01:19:08] Speaker 4: You just blurted out an answer. [01:19:10] Zachary Rye Adams: I said no. I was advised by my lawyer not to. That's what I did. Okay. [01:19:15] Speaker 4: All right. [01:19:16] Speaker 2: May I approach, Your Honor? You might. Can you pass it to the vote? [01:19:21] Speaker 1: May I see what the... The moment here is the trial. [01:19:25] Speaker 4: Page 2,539 of... I don't know. There you go. Thank you. You ready to match this? [01:19:37] Speaker 1: Your Honor, would you like a transcript? We have a copy of the transcript for the court, if you would like to follow along. [01:19:43] Speaker 2: I'll be all right. [01:19:45] Speaker ?: Do you recognize Judge McGinley talking to you? Yes, ma'am. You sat in that stand, didn't you? [01:19:47] Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. Do you remember? I don't know. [01:19:50] Speaker ?: I don't recall sitting in that stand. I don't recall sitting in that stand. I don't recall sitting in that stand. I don't recall sitting in that stand. [01:19:51] Speaker 2: I don't recall sitting in that stand. I don't recall sitting in that stand. I don't recall sitting in that stand. [01:19:54] Speaker ?: I think I stood up over there at the table. Do you swear you in? I don't recall sitting in that stand. I don't recall sitting in that stand. I think I stood up over there at the table. Do you swear you in? I don't believe I was swore in. Yes, ma'am. I don't recall sitting in that stand. I don't recall sitting in that stand. I think I stood up over there at the table. Do you swear you in? I don't believe I was swore in. [01:20:00] Speaker 2: Yes, you are. Read it. [01:20:02] Speaker ?: You were sworn in and you were. Yes, ma'am. [01:20:04] Speaker 4: I don't recall sitting in that stand. [01:20:07] Zachary Rye Adams: I think I stood up over there at the table. [01:20:09] Speaker ?: Did you swear you in? I don't believe I was swore in. Yes, you were. [01:20:12] Speaker 4: Read it. You were sworn in and you were. [01:20:14] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall sitting in this stand. I think I stood up over there at the table. Did you swear you in? I don't believe I was swore in. Yes, you were. [01:20:26] Speaker 4: Read it. You were sworn in and you were. Sworn to tell the truth. The whole truth. Okay. [01:20:35] Zachary Rye Adams: I see that read. [01:20:42] Speaker 4: By virtue of the. What did I say? This being marked as an exhibit. I did. I marked it as an exhibit 160. Thank you. By virtue of the Constitution, we all have certain rights. One of those rights is you can't be compelled to give testimony. You were present when I. This is the judge talking to you. Right? Not to Miss Thompson. Not to your mother. To you. You were present when I read that to the jury at the outset. Said if you do not take the stand to testify that they can draw nothing from that. That that's constitutional right. Also, you have a constitutional right to give testimony if you wish or desire. You can take the stand. If you do, you will be subjected to cause of damnation. And your credibility will be judged by the jury. By the same standards I've already charged them. This is your decision, okay? Again, this is the judge talking to you. Your big moment. Miss. jury by the same standards I've already charged them. This is your decision, okay? Again, this is the judge talking to you. Your big moment. You can make it having consulted with your attorneys. Again, this is the judge talking to you after you've been sworn to tell the truth. I would expect you to consult with your attorneys, but this is not their decision. This is your decision. You're standing there between two of your attorneys. Mr. Gonzalez came on the case late, but you've had ample opportunity to discuss this with Mr. Simmons and Ms. Thompson. Is that correct? That's the judge asking you, is that correct? You know what you said? Yes, sir. Having said all of that, is it your election not to give testimony? Again, this is the judge asking you, yes, sir, that's right, correct. The judge goes on because a judge wants to make sure this very important decision is being made freely and voluntarily, without any pressure, without any pressure, without a lawyer saying, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, you ain't getting on that stand. So the judge says to you, are you doing this freely and voluntarily? You said, yes, sir. You said, yes, sir. You don't feel you've been pressured either way? This is the judge asking you again, no, sir. The judge goes on because it's that important to give or to not give. No, sir. You cut him off. You cut him. You cut him off. You were so ready. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. This is your decision? The judge is asking you again. This is your decision? Yes, sir. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. I do not. And that was the end of it. And then your team began putting on your proof in the trial. What was the defense in your trial? Do you remember? I was innocent. Right. What was the defense? What was the strategy? Who committed the crime? Mr. Britt. There you go. Terry Britt was the strategy. And the defense was built around that. Correct? [01:24:21] Zachary Rye Adams: I also want to say, my mind was already made up about the testifying before the judge asked me all this. My mind was made up the minute that I promised my mom and my cousin that I wouldn't testify. There was nothing that was going to change that. [01:24:40] Speaker 4: So you, you're either lied to Judge McGinley when you were under oath. You didn't tell Judge McGinley anything about your mom and your grandmother pressuring you. So you either lied to Judge McGinley on that day or you're lying to this judge today about it. Because that never came out of your mouth, did it? [01:25:03] Zachary Rye Adams: That didn't come out of my mouth. But my mind was already made up. Okay. My mind was already made up. You never told the judge that, though, did you? No, I didn't. Okay. All right. I didn't. There was a lot of things that I didn't realize at my trial, things that I know now. There was a lot of things. I was totally unprepared. I had no way to access law books or anything. There's a lot of things I didn't know that I would have done differently. There's lots of things. That you would have done differently. Yes. Right. Yes. Absolutely. There was, there was, I would have, I would have demanded to go through all the discovery. I would have demanded it. That, that's one of the key things. What if there's something in there? My lawyer don't know if there's something in there. I mean, that's... [01:25:47] Speaker 4: Let me ask you this. Who, how many times did Ms. Thompson come to meet with you? [01:25:51] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall Ms. Weirich. She came a lot. She did. [01:25:55] Speaker 4: She worked hard on this case. Almost 4,000 hours. Do you know that? Almost 4,000 hours of time that she billed the state of Tennessee for, which is probably an underestimate of the time. I would imagine she probably put time into this case that she didn't bill the state for. In addition to that, your family paid her $50,000, right? [01:26:23] Zachary Rye Adams: I believe it was 55. [01:26:25] Speaker 4: All right. She put a lot of work into this. How many times did she come to see you? 10, 20, 30, 40? [01:26:31] Zachary Rye Adams: She came a lot. [01:26:33] Speaker 4: How many? Give us an idea. Yeah. [01:26:38] Zachary Rye Adams: 50. [01:26:39] Speaker 1: 50 times. [01:26:39] Zachary Rye Adams: I would say, yes. I don't recall. Like I said, I don't recall how many times. I didn't count. I didn't, I didn't mark it. [01:26:46] Speaker 2: He's given us, it's a lot. We know it's a lot. [01:26:50] Zachary Rye Adams: But every time she came, every time she came, she wouldn't, a lot of times we would just be going through the discovery, going through stuff. Well, I thought you just said you can't see all of it. I didn't see all of it. There's four terabytes worth. I didn't see all of it. I'm not sure she looked at all of it. [01:27:07] Speaker 4: Did she ever call you on the phone? Did you ever call her on the phone? [01:27:12] Zachary Rye Adams: We did. [01:27:12] Speaker 4: Okay. So you had in-person meetings, you talked over the phone. Every time you had a court setting, you were with her, correct? [01:27:20] Zachary Rye Adams: We did. And when she did call, when we did talk, we didn't talk. She advised me not to talk about the case on the phone. She was very leery. When I was at Chester County Jail, I remember they would let me call her, but they would carry me to the little, there's a little room in there. The same room when she would come to meet with me, it's the same room they would put me in. And when I told her about that, she said, well, from here on out, don't talk about nothing on the phone. We think this room may be wired or something. [01:27:49] Speaker 4: Sure. So she didn't want you talking there. Right. So she came to see you many times. She also sent people to come see you, correct? She did. Mitigation experts that came to see you, right? Remember Lee Norton? Who was Lee Norton? [01:28:06] Zachary Rye Adams: The one that did the IQ test and all that. [01:28:09] Speaker 4: Okay. Jim Simmons, did he come see you? [01:28:11] Zachary Rye Adams: He did. [01:28:12] Speaker 4: All right. Did Jerry Gonzalez ever come see you? [01:28:16] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't just, I don't specifically recall. I think he might have came once. I don't really recall. [01:28:23] Speaker 4: How many times did the mitigation specialist come see you? [01:28:29] Zachary Rye Adams: I think we met once with Jim Simmons and then she came back another time and gave me the IQ test. [01:28:35] Speaker 4: And there was a team of investigators working on the case, right? [01:28:38] Zachary Rye Adams: I remember two investigators. I remember two. I think there was two. Jim Simmons had an investigative team and Jennifer had one, but it was like two investigators. [01:28:49] Speaker 4: Did they ever come see you? [01:28:50] Zachary Rye Adams: They did. They came with Jennifer and Jim. [01:28:55] Speaker 4: And so I'm certain, correct, that in these conversations and these meetings, when you met with Ms. Thompson, did she take notes? Was she writing anything down? Was she just on her cell phone? She took some notes. Okay. So in the course of these interactions, did the investigators take down notes? [01:29:12] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall. I believe so. [01:29:14] Speaker 4: Okay. What about Lee Norton? Did Lee Norton take notes? [01:29:19] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't remember much. I can't really recall Lee Norton. I know we did the IQ thing that was with the blocks and all that stuff. I thought that was kind of... [01:29:28] Speaker 4: But it's your testimony today that you told all of these people, I couldn't have done this because I was with Shane ODing on Xanax. Right? Well, like you just said, 11 o'clock we was at the ATM. So that truck that you just showed, that's us pulling the ATM backwards. Right. Right. Okay. [01:29:48] Speaker ?: Right. Okay. [01:29:48] Speaker 4: But you told all that to Ms. Thompson and to Ms. Norton and to Jim Simmons and to the team of the team. They all knew there was no way... [01:29:55] Zachary Rye Adams: No, no. No, no. Like I just testified to, there was things that I don't remember about that morning. I don't specifically recall going to that ATM. Until some later on. [01:30:05] Speaker ?: Okay. Okay. [01:30:05] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. Okay. [01:30:07] Speaker ?: Do you remember telling... [01:30:07] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [01:30:08] Speaker ?: Do you remember telling... [01:30:08] Zachary Rye Adams: That's the truck that we just showed, that's us pulling the ATM backwards. Right. [01:30:10] Speaker 4: Right. Okay. But you told all that to Ms. Thompson and to Ms. Norton and to Jim Simmons and to the team of investigators. No. They all knew there was no way... No, no. [01:30:20] Zachary Rye Adams: Like I just testified to, there was things that I don't remember about that morning. I don't specifically recall going to that ATM until some later on. [01:30:29] Speaker 4: Okay. [01:30:30] Speaker ?: Okay. [01:30:31] Speaker 4: Do you remember telling... Well, let me ask you this. Do you remember reading or seeing from Ms. Thompson a report from one of the mitigation experts? There are problems with using his mother as mitigation because Zack shot her. Remember that? I know a minute ago, I wrote it down because it was such a creative description of a shooting that somehow your mother's leg accidentally got in the path of a bullet that you accidentally had in your possession. I think is... I'm not getting inaccurate, but you shot your mother. [01:31:17] Zachary Rye Adams: I did not shoot my mother like you're sitting here saying. I operated a firearm in a reckless manner. Rule number one of hunter safety, you're supposed to always, any weapon you're supposed to treat it like it was loaded. I treated that firearm, a pistol as it was unloaded and it went off and it struck my mother in the knee. I did not voluntarily shoot my mother like you're sitting here, like you're trying to explain to everybody. That did not happen. [01:31:42] Speaker 4: I'm not trying to explain anything, Mr. Adams. [01:31:44] Zachary Rye Adams: That's what you're trying to make it like. [01:31:46] Speaker 4: No. What I'm trying to do is get to the truth for the judge and for this court. And you're well versed in the use of guns, aren't you? I am. You've been handling guns since you were about eight years old, right? I am. When your grandfather taught you how to handle a gun and how to shoot deer. [01:32:03] Zachary Rye Adams: Probably before that. [01:32:04] Speaker 4: Okay. All right. So you know about all that. Yeah. You told the mitigation or the investigator team that came to see you that you've known Jason Autry for a long time, right? [01:32:18] Zachary Rye Adams: I believe I just testified to that. [01:32:20] Speaker 4: Right. You never told the police that though. [01:32:25] Zachary Rye Adams: Yeah. I never told the police that I was scared of Jason. Okay. Jason is not a person that you're just going to tell the police on. [01:32:34] Speaker 4: I'm not asking you why didn't you tell the police that Jason Autry was with you with the river when you murdered Holly Bobo. Why didn't you tell the police, Jason Autry is my best friend and we text and talk to each other on the phone every day. You never said that to the police, did you? [01:32:52] Zachary Rye Adams: I never tell the police a lot of things. [01:32:54] Speaker 4: Okay. In fact, you told Eva Pilgrim with 2020, I wasn't with Jason that day. [01:33:01] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall being with Jason that day. [01:33:03] Speaker 4: You just testified that you were with Jason that day. [01:33:07] Zachary Rye Adams: I was, but I don't, I don't, there was no specific, I was with Jason so much. There was nothing that we did that morning that like we didn't catch a big bass. We didn't, there was nothing specific about that morning to make me remember. Like those phone calls you just went through. I'm sure they happened, but I couldn't tell you that what we talked about. There was nothing specific that happened that morning to make, that stood out. I'm sure I made every one of those phone calls. I'm sure I made every one of those texts, but I can't tell you what we was talking about. I'm sure it was about drugs or something of long, I guarantee it was about drugs. It's the only thing it could have been. [01:33:53] Speaker 4: Do you remember how many times you told your lawyers, I just want to go to trial? I just want to go to trial. [01:34:02] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely. They wanted you to plead guilty. Absolutely. I'm innocent of this. Absolutely. I don't care if death penalty is on the table or not. Absolutely. I'll, absolutely. I'll, I'll, to my dying breath, I'll be innocent. And that's the truth. [01:34:17] Speaker 4: In all of these interviews with the investigators, when did you ever tell them, I was with Jason Autry that day? [01:34:27] Zachary Rye Adams: Like I just said, I don't recall being with Jason that day. I was with Jason so much. Ma'am, we did so many drugs. Days would run together. Jason hung out at my house so much. We was, we was together all the time. All the time. [01:34:44] Speaker 4: Then why not tell the police that? [01:34:47] Zachary Rye Adams: Two or three days before April 11th or April 13th, 2011. Look, two or three days after. We, we talked all the time. All the time. [01:34:56] Speaker 4: Then why not tell the police that? Do you remember telling investigators that people steer clear of Jason and I when we're together? Most people know we are up to no good. [01:35:17] Zachary Rye Adams: Remember telling them that? That's the truth. Most of the time me and Jason was together. We was up to no good. We were usually getting high or going. He was, he was usually trying to steal something. [01:35:25] Speaker 4: What kind of car did Jason drive back in April of 2011? [01:35:29] Zachary Rye Adams: PT Cruiser. Gray. [01:35:31] Speaker 4: Four door. Did you come to your house later that day before y'all went over to Dottie's? [01:35:37] Zachary Rye Adams: He did like, yeah. Yeah, he came that day. [01:35:39] Speaker 4: So he did, he did see you later that day? He did. Okay. All right, y'all went to Dottie's together. And you're both covered in blood is what your brother and Shane told the police. You both had blood on your clothes. [01:35:51] Zachary Rye Adams: That's a lie. [01:35:52] Speaker 4: That's a lie. Of course, that's a lie. Yeah. And that's when y'all got in the fight, right? You and Shane got in the fight there. [01:35:59] Zachary Rye Adams: But what, so he just pulls up my house, he got blood all over him. We're just going to go, we're just going to go, go about our daily business with just blood all over. That makes no sense whatsoever. [01:36:09] Speaker 4: There's a lot about this that doesn't make much sense. [01:36:12] Zachary Rye Adams: You're right. You're absolutely right. Like those ATM videos. We had those ATM videos of what, of that day. You would see Shane Austin. You would see me in the driver's seat. And you see my brother in the back seat. But where are they at? [01:36:23] Speaker ?: Right. Right. [01:36:25] Zachary Rye Adams: If we could get those, if the TBI did their job and got that, we wouldn't be here today. Promise you we wouldn't be here today. [01:36:32] Speaker 4: The jury heard that you were in Parsons at 11:16 in the morning. The jury heard that from your own expert. [01:36:47] Zachary Rye Adams: And they did not hear. And they did not hear. [01:36:49] Speaker 4: Do you know what time Holly Bobo was abducted? [01:36:54] Speaker ?: I don't. [01:36:55] Speaker 4: At 7:50 in the morning on April 13th, 2011. So your defense team, you filed a notice of alibi didn't you, you and your lawyers? Remember who your alibi witnesses were? Do you remember who you told the court your alibi witnesses were going to be in a written motion? [01:37:19] Zachary Rye Adams: I think it was what. No, I don't recall. [01:37:21] Speaker 4: Dick Adams, Dylan Adams, Shane Austin, and Rebecca Earp. [01:37:30] Zachary Rye Adams: All the people that I've seen that day. [01:37:32] Speaker 4: Right. [01:37:33] Zachary Rye Adams: All people I made phone calls to that day. Everybody you just stated I was talking to that day. Everybody you just you just stated every one of those names you just stated that I talked to on the phone that day. Every one of those names that I seen that day. Me and Dylan and Shane we was all together that day. [01:37:52] Speaker 4: Any of those people, who of that bunch saw you at 8:00 in the morning on April 13th, 2011? Nobody. [01:37:58] Zachary Rye Adams: Nobody. [01:37:59] Speaker 4: All right. So on April 13th, 2011, much later in the day, after you've gotten into a fight with Shane at Dottie's, your grandfather calls 911. Not once, but twice. On April 13th, 2011. That's correct. The jury heard that, right? [01:38:18] Zachary Rye Adams: That's correct. If I'm not mistaken, he said he's trying to get a gun and a vehicle. Well, why was I needing a vehicle if I had the white pickup like you said? That makes no sense whatsoever. You know, I believe you said it yourself yesterday. If I had access to a vehicle, why was I needing his vehicle? [01:38:38] Speaker 4: Maybe you were trying to get out of town fast because-- That's not the truth. It's because I didn't have a vehicle. [01:38:44] Zachary Rye Adams: It's because I didn't have a vehicle. That's why I was trying to get his van. [01:38:48] Speaker 4: Let's see if he recognized these voices. [01:38:51] Speaker ?: Let's see if he recognized these voices. Let's see if he recognized these voices. 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[01:43:01] Speaker 4: You didn't have a car or a truck at that time, right? Because it had been confiscated on April 4th, correct? When you got arrested? [01:43:11] Zachary Rye Adams: It was confiscated and then my granddaddy went and got it out and hid it at Betty Bell's house. He hid it from you, right? Yeah, and I didn't get it. So this, Holly got abducted April 13th, 2011. That Friday after this is when he took me up there to get the truck. It was hid behind their house, behind Betty Bell's house. [01:43:32] Speaker 4: What time did he take you up there? [01:43:33] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall, Ms. Weyrick. I know it was around lunch, I would say. All right. [01:43:38] Speaker 4: And where's that truck today? [01:43:39] Zachary Rye Adams: You know more than I do. I'm sure the TBI had it. [01:43:44] Speaker 4: They searched it, right? They did. They searched the black pickup truck. They did. They searched a lot of cars that you had access to, right? Tore my house all apart. [01:43:51] Zachary Rye Adams: Right. [01:43:52] Speaker 4: How many cars that you had access to did they search? Do you remember? [01:43:55] Zachary Rye Adams: All the cars that y'all searched none of them was, none of them ran. That white Nissan never ran. [01:44:00] Speaker 4: How many, how many cars and trucks that you had access to did the TBI search? Okay. [01:44:08] Zachary Rye Adams: The Silverado that was wrecked, that was incapacitated. Just give me a number. I'm counting right now. I'm counting. I'm counting. I'm doing it right now. My Silverado that was crashed. I had a black Nissan that didn't run. The white Nissan that didn't run. And then there was another black Nissan that didn't run. It was just a parts. Okay. [01:44:33] Speaker 4: They searched it all. Yup. All right. There's more to this 9-1-1 tape, if we may continue. [01:44:43] Speaker 5: He's running to 2:35. He's running back to his house at 2:35. He's running back to his house at 2:35. 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[01:47:51] Speaker 4: He's running back to his house at 2:50. He's running back to his house at 2:50. He's running back to his house at 2:50. He's running back to his house at 2:50. He's running back to his house at 2:50. He's running back to his house at 2:50. He's running back to his house at 2:50. [01:47:58] Zachary Rye Adams: Did you get one? I did not. [01:48:00] Speaker 4: A couple days later, Warren Rainey comes by your house, correct? [01:48:04] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't dispute that. [01:48:06] Speaker 4: Law enforcement? Okay. And he asked you for your phone number. You wouldn't give it to him? [01:48:12] Zachary Rye Adams: I didn't cooperate with law at the time like that. He noticed that you were shaking. They knew my phone number. Why do I have to? I mean, stuff like that. They have my DNA. It's just little stuff like that they would ask. Back then, Ms. Weir, it was me against the police. I sold drugs. I did drugs. I knew that the police, like, it's not like I am now. Right. [01:48:37] Speaker 4: So if they knew all that at all, why were you shaking so bad that day when he came? [01:48:42] Zachary Rye Adams: I had about 5,000 marijuana plants right behind the house there. [01:48:46] Speaker 4: Okay. [01:48:47] Zachary Rye Adams: And inside the house. It was all inside the house. I'm talking about at least 5,000. [01:48:52] Speaker 4: But they knew you were a drug dealer. [01:48:54] Zachary Rye Adams: Yeah. [01:48:55] Speaker 4: Okay. So he comes by, wants to talk to you, check some things out. You won't give him your phone number. That's when they watch you for hours. That's when you're vacuuming out the truck. That's when you're running back and forth between your granddaddy's house and washing off this mattress. You never once mentioned, wait a minute, I was at the bank on April 13, 2011. I was at the ATM at 11:16 in the morning. I was with Shane and I was with Dylan. You never mentioned it. [01:49:19] Zachary Rye Adams: No, I never mentioned that. But if we'd had that video, if we had that ATM footage, like I said, it would show Shane. It got the ATM getting. And like I said, I don't know where the video is at. If TBI would have did their job, I wouldn't be sitting here right now in blues like I am. [01:49:34] Speaker 4: Well, thank goodness for your cell phone expert. Thank goodness for Jonathan Reeves, who made it clear to the jury. Zach Adams was in Parsons at 11:12 or 11:16 in the morning. He made that clear to the jury. [01:49:52] Zachary Rye Adams: Ma'am, that ATM footage would have showed me. It would have showed me sitting in that 2007 Silverado with Shane in the passenger seat and my brother possibly in the back. All right. [01:50:01] Speaker 2: Ms. Adams, I know that's your position. Ms. Wyrick, I know that his expert testified. Yes, sir. [01:50:07] Speaker 4: Yes, sir. Let's move on. Yes, sir. April 23, 2011, law enforcement comes back. They see the scratches on you. You said that you got those on April 4th of 2011 when you were arrested by Henderson County. That was investigated. You didn't get the scratches then. And there was testimony about that, that you lied about that. Again, you don't mention the bank. You don't mention Jason Autry. And you don't mention I was frantically on my phone the morning of April 13th, 2011, trying to get a hold of my grandfather and Jason and Shane. I couldn't have done this. Never mentioned it. I never mentioned it. I never mentioned that. July 6, 2011, law enforcement again comes by, a different version. This time you're getting up a little bit earlier. This time you mentioned Tony Weber. And when that was run to the ground, problem there was Tony Weber said, I didn't get gas that day. I wasn't at that gas station that day. I don't know what Zach Adams is talking about. [01:51:06] Zachary Rye Adams: Ms. Wyrick, I believe we had, I believe that we found bank statements where he did get gas that day. And it wasn't once. I think it was twice, if I'm not mistaken. No, sir. [01:51:15] Speaker 4: Well, the record will reflect what the record reflects. August 28th, 2012 is the first time, August 28th, 2012 is the first time you mentioned to law enforcement that you were with Jason Autry. You then go. [01:51:33] Zachary Rye Adams: Ms. Weyberg, I wasn't with Jason Autry. He came by, I remember he came by that day and we went over to Victor's house for a little bit and I got morphine. I was to go between between him. It wasn't like we was together all day. He was there for like 30 minutes at the most. He came by. We got the morphine. We smoked a joint. Me and Shane had a little spat. We got out of there. Like, Victor got out of there and said, you can't be coming over here fighting. We went back to my house and he left. Like, Jason wasn't with us that day. [01:52:23] Speaker 4: May I approach, Your Honor? You may. [01:52:26] Speaker ?: You have to. Thank you. This is already been marked. No, sir. There's this one. There's a set of documents. Mm-hmm. Any time? I see it. I see it. I see it. No, sir. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. Okay. I know that. [01:52:54] Speaker 2: What does it say at the top of that? [01:53:12] Zachary Rye Adams: Original list regarding Zach's stupid mouth, Brian Smith. [01:53:17] Speaker 4: How many pages is that document? [01:53:20] Zachary Rye Adams: One. Two. [01:53:22] Speaker ?: Three. [01:53:23] Zachary Rye Adams: Four. You all right. I'd ask that that four, please. Okay. Okay. Okay. [01:53:29] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. You can sit. [01:53:32] Speaker 2: May I proceed, Your Honor? You may. Thank you. [01:53:35] Speaker ?: When did you hire Jennifer Thompson? Do you remember? [01:53:37] Speaker 5: I was arrested February 28, 2014. [01:53:42] Speaker ?: It was, I think it was later on that week she came. She was, her and Jim came. I wouldn't say I hired her right then, but she came on. And it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was right, she came on. And it was, it was, it was, I think it was later on that week she came. She was, her and Jim came. [01:53:47] Speaker 4: Uh, I wouldn't say I hired her right then, but she came on and it was, it was, it was right [01:53:49] Speaker ?: before the preliminary hearing at the Decatur County. [01:53:50] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. That's all right. [01:53:53] Speaker ?: Thank you. [01:53:53] Zachary Rye Adams: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [01:53:56] Speaker ?: Thank you. [01:53:57] Zachary Rye Adams: Thank you. Thank you. [01:53:59] Speaker ?: Thank you. [01:54:00] Zachary Rye Adams: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. When did you hire Jennifer Thompson? Do you remember? I was arrested February 28, 2014. Uh, I wouldn't say I hired her right then, but she, she came on and it was, it was right before the preliminary hearing at the Decatur County for the trumped up charges that, that was later dismissed with Amber Bray and, uh, that. [01:54:26] Speaker 4: The charges where you held Amber Bray hostage? That? [01:54:30] Zachary Rye Adams: No. [01:54:31] Speaker 4: That was the accusation, correct? Until she gave you money? [01:54:35] Zachary Rye Adams: Until what? [01:54:36] Speaker 4: Until they gave you money? [01:54:37] Zachary Rye Adams: That's false. [01:54:38] Speaker 4: Okay. That was trumped up. [01:54:40] Zachary Rye Adams: Well, how come y'all didn't prosecute that then? [01:54:43] Speaker 4: That's what I'm asking you. Is that, is that the case you're talking about? Yes, ma'am. [01:54:48] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [01:54:49] Speaker 4: You were also indicted at some point for threatening to kill your brother Dylan Adams, correct? [01:54:54] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall that. [01:54:58] Speaker 4: You don't recall being indicted for that? [01:55:00] Zachary Rye Adams: I, I, I, I, I, I, I couldn't even tell you how, how many times y'all, y'all have dropped charges, recharged me, charged me with stuff, tampering with evidence, all kinds of stuff that, that never went to court over. I couldn't even tell you how many times y'all have dropped charges, recharged me, charged me with stuff, tampering with evidence, all kinds of stuff that never went to court over. So if you were to tell me that, I wouldn't, I don't recall, but I wouldn't doubt it. [01:55:35] Speaker 4: The jury heard testimony that you tried to get Jason Autry to kill Dylan Adams, your brother. [01:55:40] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely not. That's a total lie. I love my brother with all my heart. [01:55:47] Speaker 4: The jury also heard testimony that you got word to Dylan Adams that he better keep his mouth shut. Was that a lie, too? [01:55:56] Zachary Rye Adams: No, I did say that. I did say that. I was upset. And that's the reason that all this happened is the lies that he told. [01:56:11] Speaker 4: When Ms. Thompson came to meet with you each time, you spoke to her, right? Like, you answered her questions, y'all talked, you got along? [01:56:19] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely. [01:56:20] Speaker 4: Did she show up at every court appearance? [01:56:24] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely. [01:56:25] Speaker 4: Did she file motions on your behalf? [01:56:28] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. [01:56:28] Speaker 4: She argued those motions? [01:56:30] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. [01:56:31] Speaker 4: She subpoenaed witnesses to the trial? [01:56:34] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes. [01:56:34] Speaker 4: She asked you questions about, all right, I mean, where were you on April 13th, 2011? She asked you where you were and you told her, right? You gave her everything you knew, right? [01:56:43] Zachary Rye Adams: Yep. [01:56:44] Speaker 4: You gave her names of people to talk to? [01:56:46] Zachary Rye Adams: I did, but throughout that day, there wasn't really a whole lot of people that I've seen other than Rebecca. And, like, I didn't, like, throughout April 13th, we went to Parsons, we didn't really run into nobody that day that I could specifically give them, you know, I didn't run into anybody that I knew. I didn't get out, I don't recall getting out of the truck after I left the shell and then we got up there to the drug dealer's house. I don't recall getting out of the truck except for up there at Joe's Video. Other than that, I don't recall getting out of the truck that much that day. [01:57:16] Speaker 4: Would it surprise you to learn that Ms. Thompson, in talking with one of the many consultants that she brought in on this case, shared with that consultant that you were not engaged, you were not talking, and that you had absolutely no short-term memory about these events because of all your heavy drug usage. And she was doing the best she could given the fact that you were not sharing information with her. Would it surprise you to learn that she said that? [01:57:46] Zachary Rye Adams: It wouldn't surprise me what, at this point, it wouldn't surprise me what anybody would say. If there's been some lies told on me, I wouldn't be surprised what anybody would say. [01:57:57] Speaker 4: All right. You were convicted by the jury. You were convicted by the jury. How long did they deliberate? You remember? [01:58:11] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall. It was a couple days. [01:58:13] Speaker 4: A couple days, wasn't it? They were out a while. It took a while to come back and convict you, didn't they? [01:58:19] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall them out. I know it was a couple. [01:58:22] Speaker 4: Okay. When you made the statement, no body, no gun, to Mr. Cooper and Kirk, you were just talking? [01:58:33] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall making that statement, ma'am. [01:58:35] Speaker 4: Okay. When you made the statement, I couldn't have picked. [01:58:39] Zachary Rye Adams: That's another thing. Y'all had those two inmates, but there was a corrections officer that was right there, too. How come y'all didn't get her to come up here and testify that I made those statements? She was right there. She was right there beside me. I was in protective custody. They had me up there in a cell. I wasn't in general population. I was up there in the front in a cell all by myself. They had me right there beside the guard. How come y'all didn't get her to come say that? How come y'all had to get two inmates? Let me guess. Y'all couldn't give her a deal. [01:59:09] Speaker ?: I had to ask her questions. Okay. Do you have an opportunity to explain? [01:59:13] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [01:59:14] Speaker 4: You finished? Yeah. Okay. You were convicted by the jury, and then conversations started about the next phase, right? About the death penalty. [01:59:27] Zachary Rye Adams: Which fight I had to do over, I'd have went on it and let them get the death penalty. It would have been, it would have been, I'd have got better appeals. I would, yeah, I would have went on it. If I had had been 50-50, I would have went on it, I wouldn't have took this deal. [01:59:40] Speaker 4: Well, you could have, you could have taken a deal, Mr. Adams. [01:59:43] Zachary Rye Adams: I shouldn't have, though. I should have went on and let them get the death penalty, and then let these death penalty activists fault this. And then the truth would have came out, and all the shady stuff that has went on, like the ATM video, and all the stuff that's been hidden and covered up, would have came out. [02:00:01] Speaker 4: Well, then why didn't you tell your lawyers, sign me up for the death penalty? [02:00:05] Zachary Rye Adams: I should have. [02:00:07] Speaker 4: They came to you and tried to get you to plead to something lesser than life without parole, right? [02:00:11] Zachary Rye Adams: I would, and I ain't going to. I never will. I won't ever plead to nothing. I'm innocent. Why would I plead to something I didn't do? Okay. That'd be stupid. [02:00:19] Speaker 4: After you were convicted, you began having conversations with your lawyers, right, about the next phase, or did they not talk to you about it? Did y'all talk about it? [02:00:27] Zachary Rye Adams: We talked. [02:00:28] Speaker 4: Okay. And they said the state is willing to take death off the table and give you life without the possibility of parole, right? Did they say that to you? [02:00:39] Zachary Rye Adams: They did. They did, and they come back, and they said the first time, I believe it was, they didn't want me to have no appeals. I said, no. No. No. Absolutely not. [02:00:51] Speaker 4: So you took life. [02:00:52] Zachary Rye Adams: And I do remember, I do remember that at this point, there was some animosity between Mr. Jim Simmons and Mr., and Jennifer, because Jim came to me trying to get me to plea out behind Jennifer's back, and then after I said, no, I'm not pleading out to something I didn't do, he made me sign a motion. He wanted me to write a motion to the judge, because he wanted to recuse himself. Which I did. [02:01:21] Speaker 4: You pled, you accepted life without parole, right? [02:01:27] Zachary Rye Adams: I did. [02:01:28] Speaker 4: Okay. What year was that? What year was that? [02:01:33] Zachary Rye Adams: 2017. September. [02:01:35] Speaker 4: Do you remember writing a letter to Ms. Thompson in 2018? Do you remember writing a letter to Ms. Jennifer Thompson in 2018? [02:01:45] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall. [02:01:46] Speaker ?: I don't recall. [02:01:47] Zachary Rye Adams: You have, if you've had the letter? [02:01:49] Speaker 4: I do. Jennifer, hear me out. I can take care of myself. Please get me off of Max. I'm sorry. I was trying to see if you remembered the language of it. [02:02:00] Zachary Rye Adams: Well, is this your handwriting? I can't see that far. [02:02:04] Speaker 4: No, I am. Is this your handwriting? [02:02:06] Zachary Rye Adams: I can't see that far. [02:02:07] Speaker ?: All right. [02:02:08] Speaker 4: Have this passed the witness, Your Honor? [02:02:11] Speaker 2: All right, that's been handed to the doctor. [02:02:15] Speaker 4: Is that the writing? [02:02:22] Zachary Rye Adams: That is. [02:02:23] Speaker 4: Okay. I want to ask that that be marked as the next numbered exhibit. [02:02:27] Speaker 2: Mark it as exhibit 119. [02:02:40] Speaker 4: Second page. [02:02:42] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. Where at? [02:02:43] Speaker 4: I wanted to go to trial, and you made that happen. Remember telling her that? [02:02:51] Zachary Rye Adams: Well, that's what happens when you don't plea out. So, I don't believe that she made that happen. I believe that that's part of the court system. That's what happens. Whenever you don't take a plea, you go to trial, right? [02:03:02] Speaker 4: Is that your writing? [02:03:04] Zachary Rye Adams: That is my writing. [02:03:05] Speaker 4: Is that a letter you sent to Ms. Thompson? [02:03:07] Zachary Rye Adams: That is. [02:03:08] Speaker 4: Okay. May 22nd of 2024. Anything else? No. No, sir. Sorry. Thank you. May 22nd of 2024. Do you remember having a jail conversation? [02:03:42] Zachary Rye Adams: What's the date, Ms. Weirich? [02:03:43] Speaker 4: May 22nd, 2024. [02:03:46] Zachary Rye Adams: May 22nd, 2024. [02:03:49] Speaker 4: You're in jail. You're having a phone. [02:03:50] Zachary Rye Adams: Who was the phone call to, Ms. Weirich? Because I make lots of phone calls. [02:03:54] Speaker 4: Ms. Spierko. [02:03:56] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [02:03:58] Speaker 4: And she was needing instruction and help on burying something. You remember this? [02:04:06] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall Ms. Weirich. [02:04:08] Speaker 4: She said she had something she needed to bury. She didn't say what it was. And you told her where to go. You instructed her to go to a piece of property that your family owned. You remember this? [02:04:20] Zachary Rye Adams: Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, I remember. [02:04:24] Speaker 4: You remember that? [02:04:24] Zachary Rye Adams: It's like I remember. It seemed like I did. Keep going, though. [02:04:27] Speaker 4: You told her to go to that property and bury something and not to take a cell phone with her. You remember that? [02:04:35] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. [02:04:36] Speaker 4: Do you remember that? [02:04:37] Zachary Rye Adams: It seems like I do. [02:04:38] Speaker 4: Okay. Do you know what it was that she needed to bury? [02:04:42] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't recall. [02:04:44] Speaker 4: Okay. [02:04:44] Zachary Rye Adams: Do you? [02:04:46] Speaker 4: Do you know what she needed to bury? [02:04:49] Zachary Rye Adams: I do. [02:04:50] Speaker 4: Okay. What was it? [02:04:55] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't really recall. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, I don't really recall the conversation exactly, but it was, it was something to do with the, if something happened to me, it was, it was the story that, the, my, so, if something happened to me while I was in prison, it was, it was the interview that I gave to her of everything that, that, the truth. That's what it was. [02:05:26] Speaker 4: Nothing further on. [02:05:31] Speaker ?: Bring it away. Just keep it. Just keep it. Just keep it. Just keep it. Just keep it. Just keep it. Just keep it. Just keep it. Just keep it. Just keep it. Just keep it. Okay. Okay. Mr. Adams. [02:05:42] Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am. Ms. Weirich asked you a bunch of questions about the, how hard Ms. Thompson worked in, in preparing for your defense. Do you recall that line of questioning? [02:06:01] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes, I do. Okay. [02:06:03] Speaker 1: And she read through your testimony to the court telling them it was your decision not to testify. [02:06:10] Zachary Rye Adams: Okay. Can I elaborate a little bit? So I've never been in a trial before. I never knew how a trial worked. So I never knew. I couldn't, I couldn't, looking at the way she worked and the way y'all work is like day and night. She was so unorganized. She was just, she didn't know, it's like she didn't know what she was doing. [02:06:33] Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this, okay? Did you have any idea that your attorney did not know the circumference of a 380 round? [02:06:44] Zachary Rye Adams: I did not. [02:06:45] Speaker 1: Did you have any idea that your attorney did not know the difference between a cell phone expert and a cell phone tracking expert? [02:06:54] Zachary Rye Adams: I did not. But I do know we had unlimited resources that we could have hired any kind of expert available. And we didn't. I believe the only experts we hired were a jury consultant and a cell phone expert. [02:07:09] Speaker 1: And you, do you recall seeing any video, still image, anything that showed your truck at the ATM during trial or before? [02:07:22] Zachary Rye Adams: Nope. Nope. I remember I told Ms. Thompson about me being at the Delta and I remember she was asking me like which pump and which pump I was at. And, but no, I've never seen no video of the ATM. [02:07:38] Speaker ?: Okay. [02:07:39] Speaker 1: You recall Ms. Weirich asking you about when you accidentally shot your mother? [02:07:45] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes, ma'am. Okay. [02:07:46] Speaker 1: And she read off a report from a medication expert that said that using your mother, it would be a problem using your mother as a mitigation because you shot her, right? So during that incident, when you were mishandling a weapon, were you on drugs? [02:08:07] Zachary Rye Adams: I was. [02:08:08] Speaker 1: So were you high at the moment that that happened? [02:08:10] Zachary Rye Adams: I was. [02:08:14] Speaker 1: And do you typically remember 10 days after a regular day of your activity, what you, everything that you've done? [02:08:24] Zachary Rye Adams: Well, 10 days ago, I couldn't tell you how many times I used the bathroom or how many phone calls I made or exactly who I talked to, but I could tell you that I probably talked to my mom. I probably talked to my granddaddy. There's two or three people that I always talked to, but other than that, I couldn't tell you what we talked about, the substance of the conversation, what I ate, or a lot of things, no. [02:08:44] Speaker 1: Did the police at any time ever ask you specifically about Jason Autry? [02:08:48] Zachary Rye Adams: They did not. They did not. They just wanted to know where I was that day. Where were you at, Zach? And I told them, I told them exactly where I was at. [02:08:55] Speaker 1: Okay, so your testimony was that you met up with Jason Autry and went to Dinsmore to go buy morphine, right? [02:09:02] Zachary Rye Adams: Mm-hmm. [02:09:03] Speaker 1: Okay, so is that something you would want to tell the police? [02:09:05] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely not. [02:09:08] Speaker 1: And you also mentioned that, I mean, Mr. Autry's a commanding figure. Would you agree? [02:09:16] Zachary Rye Adams: He's six foot six. He's big dude. [02:09:18] Speaker 1: And you said that you didn't want to get on his bad side, right? [02:09:22] Zachary Rye Adams: Absolutely not. [02:09:25] Speaker 1: So, we heard the 911 calls from your grandpa. [02:09:29] Zachary Rye Adams: Yes, ma'am. [02:09:31] Speaker 1: Was that the first instance that you ever had your grandparents have to call 911 or had problems with them? [02:09:39] Zachary Rye Adams: No, ma'am. [02:09:41] Speaker 1: Because you were using drugs, right? [02:09:43] Zachary Rye Adams: That's right. [02:09:45] Speaker 1: And you would get in fights with your grandparents? [02:09:51] Zachary Rye Adams: That happened a lot. They would say I was high and we would have an argument and that was the easiest way for them to get me in jail and get me cleaned up. Happened all the time. I would go to jail and I would take a plea and I would plea out. Happened all the time. Happened all the time. [02:10:09] Speaker 1: And I just want to be clear, Ms. Weirich characterized your, you saw the, she read off all the text exchanges that you had the morning of April the 13th, 2011. Do you recall that? She said you were frantically texting. [02:10:25] Zachary Rye Adams: Mm-hmm. [02:10:26] Speaker 1: Were you frantic that morning? [02:10:28] Zachary Rye Adams: I was not frantic. I had been up arguing with Rebecca and I was asleep. Like I said, I don't, I don't recall going to the river with Jason that morning. It's because nothing stood out that morning. We didn't catch no big bass there. He didn't have a large amount of drugs. There was nothing that morning that was, that was out of the ordinary. And, uh, went, the only reason I remember Shane calling is, Shane never called like that. He never asked me that. And I was like, Shane, why would you, why would you call and ask me if I wanted to overdose on Xanax? It's, but I, it was just, it's just the way Shane was. He was just kind of a, he was trying to be funny about things. [02:11:05] Speaker 1: So that's something that stood out to you about that day. [02:11:07] Zachary Rye Adams: It is. It is. [02:11:09] Speaker 1: And isn't it the reason that you're testifying about, you testified earlier that you don't have a specific memory of going to the river with Jason Autry that day? [02:11:19] Zachary Rye Adams: I don't. [02:11:19] Speaker 1: So is it because the phone records that you reviewed, that you've reviewed? [02:11:22] Zachary Rye Adams: I'm not disputing the phone records, but I don't remember, but that's the whole thing. I went to that river so much with Jason. He would come by, he would, he would come by and he said, let's ride the river. We would go down and, and we would fish for 10 or 15 minutes and we would go back. We'd smoke some weed while we were done. Sometimes we would just go down there and get high and smoke meth or we would go down there so often, you know. It was, it was a place that we hung out. [02:11:48] Speaker 1: And the document that you received that was, said the, all the stupid things Zach said. Have you ever seen that document before? [02:11:58] Zachary Rye Adams: I haven't. I, I, I haven't. [02:12:04] Speaker 1: One second. One second, Your Honor. That's all I have. [02:12:08] Speaker 4: Were you, one more question. Were you at the river on April 13th, 2011 with Jason Autry? [02:12:20] Zachary Rye Adams: The phone records says that. The phone records says that. Were you? I do, I do not remember. [02:12:25] Speaker 1: Were you at the river? The phone records. I'm going to object. He's answered that. He says he didn't remember. Are you asking a different question? [02:12:36] Speaker 4: I am because I, I recall two different answers now. All right. On April 13th, 2011, were you at the Tennessee river with Jason Autry? [02:12:50] Zachary Rye Adams: The phone records reflect that. Like I said earlier, I'm not disputing the phone records, but there's nothing about that morning that stood out. So I'm not disputing being at the river with Jason. I went to the river so much with Jason, I'm not disputing that, but there's nothing about that morning that stood out. [02:13:09] Speaker 4: And no reason to dispute the phone records, right? [02:13:11] Zachary Rye Adams: That's right. [02:13:12] Speaker 4: Nothing, sir. [02:13:17] Zachary Rye Adams: Thank you, sir. [02:13:20] Speaker ?: Thank you.