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"The COVID-19 pandemic was one of the most consequential events of our lifetime. And to this day, the American people have never received a full accounting of where it came from, what our government knew, and why they had to fight their own government to find out. Today, the committee will hear from"
[0:00] The COVID-19 pandemic was one of the most consequential events of our lifetime.
[0:05] And to this day, the American people have never received a full accounting
[0:08] of where it came from, what our government knew, and why they had to fight their own government
[0:13] to find out. Today, the committee will hear from an intelligence community whistleblower about
[0:18] these questions. The witness will testify that the CIA scientific analysts repeatedly concluded
[0:25] that a laboratory leak was the most likely origin of COVID-19, and that those conclusions were buried,
[0:31] softened, or withheld from Congress while the public was told to trust a different story.
[0:37] For years, Americans were told to trust the experts, trust the agencies, trust the intelligence
[0:43] community, and trust the officials who assured us that they were following the science. But the
[0:49] evidence before the committee tells a very different story. Today, we will expose a system in which a
[0:55] small circle of officials, scientists, grantees, and intelligence advisors move from agencies to
[1:02] agency, meeting to meeting, briefing to briefing, reviewing one another's work and shaping one
[1:09] another's conclusions and presenting those conclusions to Congress and the public as if they
[1:14] were independent conclusions. Only it was not independent, it was a circle. One part of that circle
[1:21] is a body most Americans have never heard of, the Biological Sciences Expert Group, known as BSEG,
[1:28] or the B Group. BSEG operates under the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
[1:34] Its stated purpose is to give the intelligence community access to outside scientific experts
[1:40] on biological threats. Sounds reasonable, but not if those experts are not independent. For example,
[1:48] Dr. Ralph Baric collaborated with Dr. Zhengli, Shi, and Wu Han to create gain-of-function coronaviruses.
[1:55] But Dr. Baric was also part of BSEG and an active consultant to intelligence agencies on the origins of
[2:02] COVID-19 pandemic. Likewise, Peter Daszak received hundreds of millions of dollars from the U.S.
[2:09] government and worked with Dr. Shi also on these gain-of-function experiments. Daszak was even sent to
[2:16] China with the WHO to investigate the origins of COVID. So the very scientists that were commissioned
[2:23] to investigate COVID were, in some cases, the very scientists who were complicit in the origins of the
[2:30] gain-of-function experiments that may well have created COVID. In essence, the intelligence community
[2:37] pays researchers to review work and write papers. NIH funds their grants. The CIA then consults them and
[2:44] gives them access to classified information. The national academies publish their work. Policymakers
[2:51] then cite the result as a consensus. But it's a circle. At the center of the government side of this
[2:57] circle was Dr. Anthony Fauci. For years, Dr. Fauci was not merely a public health official speaking from
[3:04] the NIH. He had a long-standing relationship with the national security and intelligence apparatus on
[3:10] biological threats, dangerous pathogens, classified life sciences researches, pandemic preparedness,
[3:17] and COVID origins. Again and again, documents show him being brought into national security discussions
[3:24] far beyond ordinary public health messaging. During COVID, intelligence officials arranged for Dr.
[3:31] Fauci to review highly classified intelligence assessments that could not even be sent outside the
[3:36] White House complex. But how can Anthony Fauci objectively comment on a discussion of COVID origins when he
[3:44] approved the very funding that may have caused the pandemic virus? From the outset of the pandemic, Dr.
[3:52] Fauci shaped the conclusions. Dozens of times, he referred to the idea that the pandemic originating in the
[4:00] lab was a conspiracy, that it was a conspiracy theory. Dr. Fauci convened the now infamous February
[4:07] first 2020 call. Some scientists on that call privately raised serious concerns about a laboratory
[4:14] origin. Yet ironically, those same scientists later co-authored the proximal origin paper, which publicly
[4:21] dismissed the lab leak hypothesis. One author received a $9 million grant from Dr. Fauci's own agency
[4:29] after he changed his opinion from lab leak on the private phone call to natural origin in public. At the
[4:36] same time, Dr. Fauci coordinated with the national academies on coronavirus origins and public-facing
[4:42] messaging. These were not independent experts reaching a consensus. They were part of the same machine
[4:50] designed to reach the same conclusion. The question is not whether the government may consult experts. The
[4:57] question is whether those experts were independent, whether conflicts were disclosed, whether dissenting views
[5:04] were preserved, whether the lab leak possibility was fairly evaluated, and whether Congress and the
[5:11] American people received the truth or a curated result. When Congress asked these questions, government
[5:18] officials lied to our face. They classified the documents. They suppressed the information. They changed
[5:24] the definitions. They invoked sources and methods. They told Congress only what they wanted Congress to know.
[5:31] In 2023, John Radcliffe, the former director of national intelligence, testified before Congress with a
[5:38] stark warning. He said a lab leak was the only explanation credibly supported by intelligence, science,
[5:45] and common sense. He warned that partisan politics and analyst disagreement with Trump administration
[5:52] policy, Trump derangement syndrome, had created illegitimate roadblocks to the truth. I agree. He said that
[6:00] the COVID-19 Origin Act, which Congress passed unanimously, should finally make intelligence on
[6:06] COVID's origins public. I couldn't agree more. Despite a unanimously passed law, though, requiring the
[6:14] declassification of all information related to COVID origins, the deep state still resists this
[6:20] congressional mandate. Our witness today will explain what happened inside the CIA. According to his
[6:27] testimonies, CIA scientific analysts concluded multiple times between 2021 and 2023 that a lab leak was the
[6:36] most likely origin of COVID-19. Yet those conclusions never shaped the official narrative, never made the
[6:43] intelligence report. Congress was never told. It was not until after the 2024 election that the outgoing Biden
[6:50] administration directed the CIA to issue an assessment, not because of new intelligence, but so officials
[6:58] could walk out of the door claiming there was nothing left to find. That is not analysis. That is a cleanup
[7:04] operation. This hearing is about more than one witness, one assessment, or one agency. It's about a federal
[7:13] apparatus that told the American people to trust the science while hiding the machinery that shaped the science.
[7:19] It's about an intelligence community that relied on outside experts whose conflicts were never disclosed.
[7:27] It's about public health officials with access to intelligence that Congress has struggled to obtain.
[7:34] It's about researchers and advisors cycling through grants, contracts, classified briefings, federal service
[7:40] and advisory committees, and presenting the results as independent, even though they weren't. The cover-up is not
[7:47] just about protecting one research grant. It's about protecting an entire network of labs, grants,
[7:53] intermediaries, and bureaucratic architecture, quietly engineered to outlast any moratorium, any
[8:00] congressional inquiry, and any election. After millions died, children lost years of learning, small
[8:08] businesses were destroyed, civil liberties were restricted, and dissenting Americans were censored and
[8:14] smeared. The government owes its people the evidence. Our witness is testifying publicly today at great
[8:21] personal risk. He and other brave whistleblowers have come forward because the truth was being buried,
[8:27] because government secrecy cannot become government impunity. I want to acknowledge the Trump
[8:33] administration officials who made good on their commitment to transparency and cooperated with this
[8:39] investigation, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy, Director of NIH, Jay Bhattacharya,
[8:46] Director of the National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, and former Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem.
[8:53] They set a standard. I expect the rest of the administration to meet it. We owe the American people
[8:59] a complete record. We owe every family harmed by this pandemic a government that does not hide behind secrecy,
[9:07] conflicts, and curated science when the stakes are life and death in public starting today.