NEWS: Jim Jordan Grills Southern Poverty Law Center's President Over Bombshell Allegations

[0:00] Please, bring us the evidence. [0:01] And I'll yield back to you, Mr. Chairman. [0:03] Mr. Fair, did the Southern Property Law Center use donor money to have field sources attend extremist rallies across the country? [0:14] Mr. Chairman. [0:15] It's a simple question. [0:16] Did you use your donor money for that purpose? [0:19] We used donor money. [0:23] Is it yes or no? [0:24] We paid confidential informants to infiltrate extremist organizations. [0:28] Did the Southern Property Law Center use donor dollars to have field sources host extremist rallies throughout the country? [0:36] Not to my knowledge. [0:36] That's not what the indictment says. [0:38] Did the Southern Property Law Center use donor dollars to have field sources grow existing chapters of extremist groups? [0:44] Mr. Chairman, as I said earlier. [0:47] It's a simple question, Mr. Fair. [0:48] Did you use donor money for the purpose I just read? [0:50] I'm reading straight from the superseding indictment. [0:53] And, Mr. Chairman, the indictment will be managed and responded to by counsel in the criminal case that's been made. [0:59] Well, you just answered a question from Mr. Raskin concerning the indictment. [1:02] He asked you, did field sources send information to the FBI that help with things? [1:05] You answered that question. [1:06] That's a matter of public knowledge. [1:07] That's in our public filing. [1:09] Did the Southern Property Law Center use donor money to have field sources create new chapters of extremist groups? [1:16] Again, Mr. Chairman. [1:17] Did the Southern Property Law Center use donor money to recruit new individuals into those extremist groups? [1:25] I assume you don't want me to answer since you're not giving me time to answer. [1:28] I'm giving you time to answer because that's a yes. [1:30] Did you use your donor's money for that purpose? [1:33] Yes or no? [1:34] Again, those issues will be resolved in the pending allegations against the SPLC. [1:40] It seems to me if the answer is no, you could say no. [1:44] We have asserted that the allegations are false. [1:46] Did the Southern Property Law Center use donor money to have field sources make donations to extremist group leaders and purchase materials for cross burnings? [1:55] It's alleged in the indictment. [1:56] Did it happen? [1:57] We've alleged that those allegations are false. [2:00] Did the Southern Property Law Center use donor dollars to have field sources create racist paraphernalia that extremist groups sold at rallies? [2:08] We've alleged that those allegations are false. [2:10] Okay, how about this? [2:11] What is Fox Photography? [2:19] Mr. Chairman, what I've learned about Fox Photography, I've learned from counsel in conversations with counsel. [2:26] How about Northwest Technologies? [2:28] And they're covered by the attorney-client privilege. [2:31] These are, well, did the Southern Poverty Law Center establish shell companies to pay, to run the money through, to then pay the field sources? [2:41] Again, all of the allegations that you are referring to, Chairman Jordan, will be responded to by our counsel in the Middle District of Alabama. [2:57] Did you pay the field sources directly or did you pay them through an intermediary? [3:06] Mr. Chairman Jordan? [3:08] Yep. [3:08] Our counsel will respond to all the allegations in the indictment in the case pending in the Middle District of Alabama. [3:15] Well, there's all these companies that you sent money to, Center Investigative Agency, not the CIA, but your CIA, Fox Photography, Northwest Technologies, Tech Writers Group, Rare Books Warehouses, Imagery Link, J&J Electronics, and Kelly's Marine. [3:30] And I just want to know if that was the intermediate shell companies that you guys set up to pay the field sources. [3:35] Is that true? [3:37] Will the good chairman yield for just a moment? [3:39] No, I've got just a minute and a half, and then I'll be happy to entertain a question you may have. [3:42] Chairman Jordan, our counsel will respond to all the allegations in the Middle District of Alabama. [3:49] Okay. [3:50] As the process allows. [3:52] Did you do it all for the money? [3:56] I mean, you said now, I think the Southern Public Law Center said you're no longer going to use these field sources. [4:00] You're going to stop the program. [4:01] But you did it for multiple years, and according to the indictment, it was $4 million that you shelled out to these various field sources to engage in all the activities I just read. [4:09] As we said in our public statement, Chairman Jordan, we did it to protect our staff and to protect the public. [4:17] Did fundraising increase after paying people to stay in these groups who actually wanted out of them? [4:23] Did your fundraising increase? [4:25] Did the donations coming in increase? [4:29] Chairman Jordan, I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to when you said— [4:33] How about this? [4:34] After the crazy Charlottesville rally, did fundraising go up? [4:39] Mr. Chairman, our fundraising went up— [4:43] Fundraising where one of your field sources helped coordinate transportation to that event. [4:46] Our fundraising went up when President Donald Trump was elected in 2016. [4:51] Fundraising go up after you paid a field source to coordinate the transportation at an event in Charlottesville where a person was killed. [4:56] That's what I'm asking. [4:57] Did it go up? [4:58] Because according to what we know, you went from $51 million to $133 million in one year. [5:03] And that happened when President Donald Trump was elected. [5:09] Who's the president of the National Socialist Party? [5:14] You know? [5:16] You know who he is? [5:17] Mr. Chairman, that's an allegation in the indictment that will be responded to by counsel in the Middle District of Alabama. [5:25] My time has expired. [5:26] The chair now recognizes—