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"Thank you so much. Donald Trump's approval rating implodes on his strongest issue. This is from Newsweek Today. It says 40% of people approve of Trump's handling of immigration and border security, while 60% disapproved. Without objection, admitted. Now I recognize the gentleman from California,..."
[0:00] Thank you so much.
[0:01] Donald Trump's approval rating implodes on his strongest issue.
[0:04] This is from Newsweek Today.
[0:06] It says 40% of people approve of Trump's handling of immigration and border security,
[0:11] while 60% disapproved.
[0:12] Without objection, admitted.
[0:14] Now I recognize the gentleman from California, Mr. Liu.
[0:26] Thank you, Attorney General Bonny, for being here today.
[0:29] I'm going to show you two photos.
[0:30] Thank you.
[0:31] I'm going to show you two photos of former Prince Andrew.
[0:34] Prince Andrew attended various parties with Jeffrey Epstein.
[0:41] Under the law Congress passed, you were allowed to redact photos
[0:45] to protect the victims of Epstein's sex trafficking operation.
[0:50] You redacted the photos of this victim's face
[0:54] because you were following the congressional law.
[0:57] Is that correct?
[1:03] I'm sorry that we redacted the victim's face.
[1:05] Because you were following the congressional law, correct?
[1:08] Yes.
[1:08] Okay.
[1:08] You have now established that we, please put the photos back up,
[1:14] that we are looking at a sex trafficking victim.
[1:18] Under the Federal Victims Trafficking Protection Act,
[1:22] not only is Jeffrey Epstein guilty,
[1:24] but anyone who patronizes Epstein's sex operation
[1:29] is also guilty of a crime.
[1:31] That's why I find it absolutely despicable
[1:34] that you sought to protect Epstein's clients,
[1:37] like former Prince Andrew.
[1:39] Last July, you closed the case on Epstein's abusers.
[1:45] The July 2025 memo from your Department of Justice stated,
[1:49] quote,
[1:50] we did not uncover evidence
[1:52] that could predicate an investigation
[1:53] against uncharged third parties.
[1:57] These two photos,
[1:58] please put the photos back up.
[2:01] These two photos staring you in the face
[2:03] are evidence of a crime
[2:05] and more than enough evidence
[2:07] to predicate an investigation
[2:09] against former Prince Andrew.
[2:11] So I ask you,
[2:13] Attorney General Pam Bondi,
[2:14] why did you shut down this investigation last July
[2:17] and why have you not prosecuted
[2:18] former Prince Andrew?
[2:20] I don't believe you asked Merrick Garland
[2:23] these questions
[2:24] when he was Attorney General
[2:26] and set before you.
[2:27] I agree with you.
[2:28] You twice.
[2:28] I'm reclaiming my time.
[2:29] I agree with you.
[2:30] I agree with you.
[2:31] During the Biden administration,
[2:33] I called for people looking at Epstein files.
[2:37] Merrick Garland dropped the ball
[2:39] as did Attorney General Bill Barr,
[2:42] as did Alex Acosta,
[2:43] a whole string of failures,
[2:44] but you are in charge.
[2:46] You have the power to change things
[2:48] to hold these men accountable
[2:49] and you're doing the opposite.
[2:50] You're protecting them.
[2:52] So I want to move on to another man.
[2:53] Can I answer that though?
[2:54] I want to move on to another question.
[2:56] Can I answer your question
[2:56] about protecting Prince Andrew?
[2:57] You answered the question.
[2:58] You're saying no.
[2:59] I love this.
[3:00] I want to discuss another man,
[3:01] Donald Trump,
[3:02] who is all over the Epstein files.
[3:05] Like former Prince Andrew,
[3:06] here's a video.
[3:08] Like former Prince Andrew,
[3:24] Donald Trump attended various parties
[3:26] with Jeffrey Epstein.
[3:28] I want to know,
[3:29] were there any underage girls
[3:31] at that party
[3:32] or at any party
[3:34] that Trump attended
[3:35] with Jeffrey Epstein?
[3:43] This is so ridiculous
[3:44] and that they are trying to deflect
[3:47] from all the great things
[3:51] Donald Trump has done.
[3:52] There is no evidence
[3:53] that Donald Trump
[3:54] has committed a crime.
[3:55] Everyone knows that.
[3:56] This has been
[3:57] the most transparent presidency.
[3:59] He's the one
[4:00] that asked that those files
[4:01] be released.
[4:02] I'm going to claim my time.
[4:02] I got your answer.
[4:04] You said there's no evidence.
[4:05] President Trump asked
[4:05] the clock to sign
[4:06] the legislation.
[4:07] I'd like to reclaim my time.
[4:08] I'd like to reclaim my time.
[4:08] This is ridiculous.
[4:09] Time belongs to the gentleman
[4:12] from California.
[4:13] Okay.
[4:14] I'm going to put up
[4:15] another document
[4:16] from a witness
[4:18] who called the FBI's
[4:19] National Threat Operations Center
[4:21] because I believe
[4:22] you just lied under oath.
[4:24] There is ample evidence
[4:25] in the Epstein fight.
[4:26] Don't you ever
[4:27] accuse me of a crime.
[4:28] I believe you just lied
[4:29] under oath
[4:30] and this is all on videotape.
[4:32] You said there's no evidence
[4:33] of a crime.
[4:34] I'm showing you.
[4:35] Here is a witness statement
[4:37] who called into the FBI's
[4:39] Threat Operations Center.
[4:41] He drove Donald Trump
[4:42] around in a limo.
[4:43] He overheard what Donald Trump
[4:44] said to Jeffrey
[4:45] on his cell phone.
[4:46] He was so angry
[4:47] he was going to stop the limo
[4:48] and hurt Donald Trump.
[4:49] And he met a girl
[4:51] who said she was raped
[4:52] by Donald Trump
[4:53] and Jeffrey Epstein.
[4:54] She later had her head
[4:56] blown off
[4:57] and officers at the scene
[4:58] said that could not
[4:59] have been suicide.
[5:02] No one,
[5:03] no one
[5:03] at the Department of Justice
[5:05] interviewed this witness.
[5:08] You need to interview
[5:09] this witness immediately.
[5:13] Epstein should rot in hell.
[5:14] So should the men
[5:15] who patronized his operation.
[5:18] And as we say here today,
[5:19] there are over 1,000
[5:20] sex trafficking victims
[5:22] and you have not held
[5:24] a single man accountable.
[5:26] Shame on you.
[5:27] If you had any decency,
[5:28] you would resign
[5:29] right after this hearing concludes.
[5:30] The time of the gentleman
[5:31] has expired.
[5:33] May I respond?
[5:35] Yeah, I don't know
[5:35] how you respond.
[5:36] No one can respond.
[5:36] I did not ask a question.
[5:38] He doesn't want to talk
[5:39] about the humorous
[5:39] of a crime in California.
[5:41] He does not want to talk
[5:43] about crime in his state.
[5:45] I did not ask a question.
[5:48] Biddy will be in order.
[5:49] The gentleman
[5:50] has yielded back his time.
[5:51] I think recognizes
[5:52] the general aide
[5:53] from California.
[5:54] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[5:55] I would note that
[5:56] Mr. Nadler's question
[5:58] has not yet been answered.
[5:59] But I want to start
[6:00] by asking that out of respect
[6:01] for the American public
[6:03] and the Epstein survivors,
[6:05] some of whom, of course,
[6:07] are here today,
[6:08] that we can have
[6:08] a transparent conversation
[6:10] and get the public
[6:12] the answers they deserve.
[6:14] I want to briefly
[6:15] direct your attention
[6:16] to two documents
[6:18] I'm hoping we will put up
[6:19] on the screen.
[6:21] In the first,
[6:23] an individual emails
[6:25] Jeffrey Epstein
[6:25] asking whether a woman
[6:27] identified as M
[6:29] was pro or civilian.
[6:32] And Epstein responds
[6:33] that she was a civilian,
[6:34] Russian, and fun.
[6:36] In the second email,
[6:38] Epstein writes to Steve Tisch
[6:40] about a Ukrainian girl,
[6:42] noting that she was, quote,
[6:44] a little freaked out
[6:45] by the age difference
[6:46] and stating that he would
[6:47] try to convince her
[6:49] not to return to Ukraine,
[6:51] he then instructs Mr. Tisch
[6:52] to call him, adding,
[6:54] I don't like records
[6:55] of these conversations.
[6:57] So I'd like to ask
[6:58] a straightforward question
[7:00] that really is either
[7:01] a yes or no answer.
[7:03] Do these emails
[7:04] constitute credible evidence,
[7:06] not proof,
[7:08] but credible evidence
[7:09] warning further investigation
[7:11] into whether Steve Tisch
[7:13] was involved
[7:15] in Epstein's criminal conduct?
[7:17] Do you think yes or no?
[7:20] I'm not going to play
[7:21] a yes-no game with you,
[7:22] but I will answer the question
[7:23] to the best of my ability.
[7:25] As I said,
[7:26] we will look and investigate
[7:28] any case involving any victim.
[7:31] I'm not familiar.
[7:32] There were 3 million pages,
[7:33] of course, with that email.
[7:35] But of course,
[7:36] we will look into anything.
[7:38] The documents have been released,
[7:39] 3 million.
[7:40] The redacted versions,
[7:41] we left them open
[7:43] for all of you to come view.
[7:45] I believe you view them.
[7:47] If not, will you have some copies?
[7:48] I'd like to.
[7:49] Can I finish, please?
[7:50] I'm not being rude.
[7:51] I only have 5 minutes.
[7:52] No, yeah,
[7:53] and I only have 30 seconds
[7:54] based on your filibuster.
[7:56] Well, you didn't give
[7:57] a yes or no answer.
[7:59] So let me just go further.
[8:01] Director Patel testified
[8:03] in this committee room
[8:04] that there was no
[8:05] credible information
[8:06] indicating that Epstein
[8:09] trafficked victims
[8:10] to anyone else.
[8:11] And glancing at the documents,
[8:13] that proves that's not the case.
[8:16] In July,
[8:17] your department issued a memo
[8:18] stating that it had conducted
[8:20] an exhaustive review
[8:21] of the Epstein files
[8:23] and concluded
[8:24] that no additional individuals
[8:26] would be charged.
[8:27] So I did go over
[8:29] to the Department of Justice yesterday.
[8:31] I would know
[8:31] that 400 and all,
[8:34] our 35 members
[8:36] are in the house
[8:37] and there's four computers.
[8:39] So it would take many months
[8:42] to actually have the time.
[8:45] I, you know,
[8:45] I only had a few hours.
[8:46] I think the transparency argument
[8:48] is really kind of a sham
[8:50] because it's not really possible.
[8:51] Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[8:52] Did you have to wait
[8:52] to get a computer?
[8:53] It is not possible
[8:54] to really go in.
[8:55] I did, however,
[8:57] see a U.S. attorney information
[8:59] for the Southern District
[9:01] of New York
[9:01] indicating that there were
[9:03] additional survivors
[9:04] and probable co-conspirators.
[9:07] Other members of Congress
[9:09] have uncovered likely
[9:10] co-conspirators
[9:11] whose names were blocked out.
[9:14] Now,
[9:14] the Epstein filed
[9:17] Transparency Act,
[9:18] which all but one member
[9:20] of this house
[9:20] voted for
[9:21] and the president signed,
[9:22] requires the department
[9:24] to release everything
[9:26] except that
[9:27] it needs to be redacted
[9:29] to protect the victims
[9:31] or an ongoing
[9:33] prosecution,
[9:35] which apparently there is none
[9:36] from the testimony
[9:37] we have received.
[9:39] I am concerned
[9:40] that this act
[9:42] has not been fully complied with.
[9:44] When Director Patel
[9:45] came to the committee,
[9:47] he admitted
[9:47] that up to 1,000 FBI agents
[9:50] had gone through the files
[9:52] and redacted
[9:53] President Trump's name
[9:54] from them.
[9:55] And it's pretty clear
[9:56] that what has been
[9:57] transmitted
[9:58] from the FBI
[9:59] continues to redact
[10:01] President Trump's name
[10:03] even though he is mentioned,
[10:05] you know,
[10:06] thousands of times
[10:07] in these files.
[10:08] So I think
[10:09] the credibility
[10:09] of the department
[10:11] in terms of complying
[10:12] with the act
[10:13] has been damaged.
[10:15] And I think
[10:16] the department's credibility
[10:17] has been damaged
[10:18] in other ways.
[10:20] I think we all saw
[10:21] the horrible video
[10:22] of American citizens
[10:24] being killed
[10:26] by ICE agents
[10:27] in Minneapolis.
[10:29] And I think
[10:30] how the department
[10:30] has handled these cases
[10:32] raises a lot of doubt
[10:34] about the department.
[10:35] State and local police
[10:36] in Minnesota
[10:37] got a court order
[10:39] to get access
[10:40] to the crime scene
[10:41] to be sure evidence
[10:42] would be properly preserved
[10:44] by federal agents.
[10:45] But they took
[10:47] the agents
[10:48] defied the court order
[10:49] and in a department
[10:51] departure
[10:52] from general policy,
[10:54] the DOJ
[10:55] is not collaborating
[10:56] with state
[10:57] and local law enforcement
[10:58] on these homicides.
[11:00] So I really think
[11:02] that is a disgraceful
[11:03] approach
[11:04] to the homicides
[11:05] of American citizens
[11:06] and really
[11:08] does nothing
[11:09] to bring credit
[11:10] to your department.
[11:12] And Mr. Chairman,
[11:13] I would yield back.
[11:14] General A yields back.
[11:14] May I answer?
[11:16] Attorney General can respond.
[11:17] I find it interesting
[11:18] that she keeps going
[11:18] after President Trump,
[11:20] the greatest president
[11:21] in American history.
[11:22] And if they could
[11:23] maintain their composure,
[11:25] this isn't a circus.
[11:26] This is a hearing.
[11:28] I find it interesting
[11:29] she keeps going
[11:30] after Donald Trump.
[11:31] She doesn't say
[11:31] how much money
[11:32] she took from Reid Hoffman,
[11:33] did you?
[11:34] None.
[11:34] And nor did she post anything.
[11:37] Mr. Chairman,
[11:37] regular order, please.
[11:38] She posted nothing
[11:40] on her X account
[11:41] on her Twitter account
[11:43] during the Biden years.
[11:44] Gentle lady.
[11:45] Now, all of us
[11:46] have a question asked.
[11:48] She's going after
[11:48] her point of order.
[11:49] There was no question
[11:50] on the attorney general.
[11:52] She doesn't just get to speak.
[11:53] The committee will be in order.
[11:54] I have a point of order,
[11:56] Mr. Chairman.
[11:56] The committee will be in order.
[11:58] Point of order,
[11:58] Mr. Chairman.
[11:59] Gentle lady can state
[11:59] her point of order.
[12:02] When a witness attacks...
[12:04] It's not a valid point of order.
[12:05] You've got to state...
[12:05] She hasn't completed
[12:06] her point of order yet.
[12:07] Please let her speak,
[12:08] Mr. Chairman.
[12:08] Let's have some regular order here.
[12:09] Regular order is
[12:10] you've got to state the rule.
[12:11] I am trying to make
[12:13] a point of order
[12:13] that the witness...
[12:14] And what people
[12:15] are you referring to?
[12:16] Without responding
[12:17] to a question
[12:18] has attacked me personally.
[12:20] I think it's pathetic
[12:21] that she can't answer
[12:22] the questions
[12:22] and instead has attacked...
[12:24] That is not even close
[12:24] to a point of order
[12:25] from California.
[12:26] Thank you.
[12:27] Madam Attorney General,
[12:28] you acknowledged
[12:29] earlier to Mr. Johnson
[12:31] that President Trump
[12:32] was mentioned
[12:33] in the release
[12:35] countless times,
[12:36] you said,
[12:36] in the Epstein files.
[12:37] I just want to play
[12:39] a video, though,
[12:40] for you that I think
[12:40] speaks to the frustration
[12:41] that many of these
[12:43] victims have.
[12:44] Victims have.
[12:46] ...of times Trump's name
[12:47] appears in the files,
[12:48] so it could at least
[12:49] be a thousand times.
[12:50] Is that right?
[12:52] The number
[12:53] is a total misleading factor.
[12:55] We have not released
[12:56] anyone's name...
[12:57] We have not released
[12:58] anyone's name
[12:59] in the Epstein files
[13:00] that has not been credible.
[13:01] Director,
[13:01] could it at least
[13:02] be a thousand times?
[13:03] ...every piece
[13:04] of legally permissible
[13:05] information.
[13:06] You can characterize
[13:07] the numbers
[13:07] however you want it.
[13:08] Claim me my time,
[13:09] Director.
[13:10] It sounds like
[13:11] if you don't know
[13:11] the number,
[13:12] it could at least
[13:12] be a thousand times.
[13:14] It's not.
[13:15] It's not.
[13:15] Is it at least
[13:16] five hundred times?
[13:16] No.
[13:17] Is it at least
[13:17] a hundred times?
[13:18] No.
[13:18] Then what's the number?
[13:20] I don't know the number.
[13:21] I understand why
[13:24] the victims are frustrated
[13:25] and the Attorney General
[13:26] acknowledged what
[13:27] Mr. Patel would not
[13:28] acknowledge,
[13:29] that it was way more
[13:30] than a thousand times.
[13:32] But I want to move,
[13:33] Madam Attorney General,
[13:33] to weaponization
[13:35] of government.
[13:37] And yesterday,
[13:37] it was reported
[13:38] that six members
[13:39] of Congress
[13:40] had indictments
[13:41] sought against him
[13:42] and they were not
[13:43] returned by a grand jury.
[13:44] My colleagues have spoken
[13:45] about their frustration
[13:46] of being in subpoenas
[13:48] and having cell phone
[13:49] records combed through.
[13:52] Well, in 2017 and 2018,
[13:55] Adam Schiff and I
[13:55] had our cell phone records
[13:56] and email records
[13:58] combed through,
[13:59] not by you,
[13:59] but a different
[14:00] Department of Justice
[14:01] under the President.
[14:02] It was in retaliation
[14:03] for our role
[14:04] in the Russia
[14:05] interference campaign.
[14:06] An Inspector General
[14:07] report would find
[14:08] this improper
[14:09] and that the predicate
[14:10] for it was absurd.
[14:11] In 2020,
[14:12] after sitting on
[14:13] two committees
[14:14] that were a part
[14:14] of the President's
[14:15] first impeachment,
[14:16] an FBI agent
[14:17] leaked my cooperation
[14:18] in a national security case
[14:20] where my campaign
[14:20] was targeted,
[14:21] the President's FBI
[14:23] senior leadership
[14:25] authorized two statements
[14:26] to the press
[14:27] that said,
[14:28] I was never suspected
[14:29] of wrongdoing
[14:29] and only helped
[14:30] the investigation,
[14:31] but that didn't stop
[14:32] the death threats
[14:32] or my GOP colleagues
[14:33] from referring me
[14:34] to an ethics investigation
[14:36] where Kevin McCarthy's
[14:37] chairman on the ethics
[14:38] committee would find
[14:39] the same thing
[14:40] as the FBI.
[14:41] Our current FBI director
[14:42] would then write a book
[14:43] called Government Gangsters
[14:44] and identify a long list
[14:46] of enemies.
[14:46] About a quarter of them
[14:47] have been either
[14:48] investigated or indicted.
[14:50] He listed me
[14:50] at the very top
[14:51] along with Adam Schiff
[14:52] and during that same testimony
[14:54] refused to recuse himself
[14:57] when asked
[14:58] if he would recuse
[14:59] if any case came
[15:01] across his desk
[15:01] involving me
[15:02] or people on that list.
[15:04] Since that testimony,
[15:06] his department has put me
[15:07] under investigation
[15:08] with Senator Schiff
[15:09] for the nonsense
[15:10] mortgage fraud cases
[15:11] that we've seen.
[15:13] I get it.
[15:14] This is what the president does.
[15:15] I've priced it in.
[15:17] We have a bingo card
[15:18] at home that my kids
[15:18] have made of what
[15:19] will come next.
[15:21] I expected that the president
[15:22] would come after his enemies,
[15:23] but what I want to talk
[15:24] to you next is serious,
[15:26] and I did not expect
[15:26] this would happen,
[15:27] and I'd like your help on it.
[15:29] The president has inspired
[15:30] death threats against me
[15:32] and many sitting up
[15:33] here with me.
[15:34] In June 2025,
[15:36] an individual left
[15:37] 11 voicemails
[15:38] at my district office.
[15:40] On the voicemails,
[15:41] they said,
[15:41] get the message to him.
[15:42] I'm going to hunt him down,
[15:44] that motherfucker,
[15:44] and toss his ass
[15:45] over the Golden Gate Bridge
[15:46] by my fucking self.
[15:49] Donald Trump's
[15:49] Department of Justice
[15:50] in the Northern District
[15:51] of California
[15:52] declined to prosecute.
[15:53] On May 14, 2025,
[15:56] on Twitter,
[15:57] responding to something
[15:58] I posted,
[15:59] an individual said,
[16:00] no, it wasn't, Eric,
[16:01] and now I'm going
[16:01] to kill you.
[16:03] The Department of Justice
[16:04] from the Southern District
[16:05] of Texas
[16:05] declined to prosecute.
[16:07] May through December
[16:08] of 2025,
[16:10] we received messages
[16:11] at my office
[16:11] that said,
[16:12] I hope somebody
[16:13] shoots you
[16:13] and your children
[16:14] and your wife
[16:15] in the head.
[16:16] Pew, pew, motherfucker,
[16:17] pew, pew.
[16:18] I would stay indoors
[16:19] as much as possible,
[16:20] and my children,
[16:21] unfortunately,
[16:22] have to do that.
[16:23] The Department of Justice
[16:24] has not charged
[16:25] this individual
[16:25] and cited that he's
[16:27] a prolific caller
[16:28] and has health conditions,
[16:29] although what we have found
[16:30] in our investigation
[16:31] and his voicemails
[16:32] is that he has said
[16:33] he will employ
[16:34] others to do this.
[16:36] The president can come
[16:37] after me.
[16:37] It's fine.
[16:38] I'm in the arena.
[16:39] So are these folks.
[16:41] But we never expected
[16:42] that the Department of Justice
[16:43] would not seek
[16:45] to prosecute
[16:46] and investigate
[16:47] those who are making
[16:48] threats against us,
[16:49] and that would include
[16:50] those on that side
[16:51] of the aisle.
[16:51] And I'm just asking
[16:52] for your help
[16:53] to protect life,
[16:55] because life is at risk
[16:56] with the environment
[16:57] we're in right now.
[16:59] Congressman,
[16:59] I completely agree with you.
[17:02] I know about several
[17:03] of those personally,
[17:05] involving you.
[17:07] I believe one
[17:08] has been charged publicly,
[17:10] and there's something
[17:12] I would be happy
[17:13] to talk to you about
[17:14] off camera,
[17:16] but I can assure you
[17:17] that they are very serious.
[17:19] They are being looked into,
[17:21] and I can give you
[17:22] more details on those.
[17:24] None of you
[17:24] should be threatened,
[17:26] ever.
[17:26] None of your children
[17:27] should be threatened.
[17:29] None of your families
[17:30] should be threatened,
[17:31] and I will work with,
[17:33] you can come into my office
[17:34] any day,
[17:35] I will work with all of you
[17:36] on both sides of the aisle
[17:37] if you are ever threatened,
[17:39] and I would gladly talk to you
[17:42] after this hearing
[17:42] about your cases,
[17:44] but I can tell you
[17:44] some of them are very active.
[17:46] Appreciate that.
[17:46] Now yield back.
[17:47] Gentleman yields back,
[17:48] and we're sorry for
[17:48] what the gentleman
[17:49] and his family
[17:50] had to go through.
[17:51] We appreciate
[17:52] what the Attorney General said,
[17:53] and I think some of the things
[17:56] that are you up next.
[17:57] Gentleman from New York
[17:58] is recognized.
[18:01] Mr. Chairman,
[18:02] I want to begin
[18:02] by acknowledging
[18:03] the survivors
[18:04] of Jeffrey Epstein's
[18:05] horrific abuse
[18:06] who are in the room
[18:07] with us today.
[18:08] I want to thank all of you
[18:09] for your bravery
[18:10] in speaking out,
[18:11] and I want to say
[18:12] that you and the other survivors
[18:13] of these heinous crimes
[18:15] deserve better
[18:16] from this Department of Justice.
[18:18] In particular,
[18:19] it is shocking
[18:20] that the Department
[18:21] did not redact
[18:22] the names of Epstein's victims,
[18:24] but it did redact
[18:25] the names of their abusers.
[18:27] I don't know
[18:28] whether this was done
[18:28] out of incompetence
[18:30] or whether it was deliberate
[18:31] and malicious,
[18:32] but either way,
[18:33] it is completely unacceptable.
[18:35] Even more troubling,
[18:36] the DOJ has failed
[18:37] to bring any of these
[18:38] perpetrators to justice.
[18:40] Instead,
[18:41] it has engaged
[18:42] in a relentless pursuit
[18:43] of Donald Trump's
[18:44] perceived enemies.
[18:46] I want to focus
[18:47] on just one example.
[18:48] The Attorney General
[18:49] of my home state
[18:50] of New York,
[18:51] Tish James.
[18:53] This DOJ
[18:53] has been hell-bent
[18:54] on securing an indictment
[18:55] against Ms. James
[18:56] for something,
[18:57] anything,
[18:58] simply because she held
[18:59] Donald Trump's companies
[19:00] accountable for years
[19:02] of financial fraud.
[19:04] And indeed,
[19:05] the Department manufactured
[19:06] an investigation against her
[19:07] for alleged, quote,
[19:08] mortgage fraud.
[19:10] But the DOJ attorney
[19:11] leading the investigation,
[19:12] Eric Siebert,
[19:13] a Trump appointee,
[19:15] refused to bring charges
[19:16] against Ms. James
[19:17] because there was
[19:18] simply no evidence.
[19:20] Unfortunately,
[19:21] a prosecutor who refuses
[19:22] to do Trump's bidding
[19:24] has no place
[19:25] in this DOJ,
[19:26] so Mr. Siebert
[19:28] was forced out.
[19:30] Trump could not
[19:30] contain his fury,
[19:32] fury that he expressed
[19:33] to you in a social media
[19:34] post addressed to you
[19:36] by name.
[19:36] I'm sure you've seen it.
[19:37] Quote,
[19:38] I fired him
[19:39] and there is a great case
[19:40] he wrote to you
[19:41] about, Mr. Siebert.
[19:42] Then we moved down.
[19:43] We can't delay any longer.
[19:45] It's killing our reputation
[19:46] and credibility.
[19:47] They impeached me twice
[19:49] and indicted me five times
[19:50] over nothing.
[19:52] Justice must be served now.
[19:54] And obviously,
[19:55] you followed that order.
[19:57] Lindsay Halligan,
[19:59] Trump's former defense lawyer
[20:00] who had never prosecuted
[20:02] the case in her life,
[20:03] was installed to replace
[20:04] Mr. Siebert
[20:05] and it was clear
[20:06] that part of her mandate
[20:07] was to go after Ms. James.
[20:10] Halligan immediately
[20:11] saw an indictment
[20:11] which her court dismissed
[20:13] because Halligan
[20:13] was illegally put into the row.
[20:16] But your department
[20:17] was undeterred.
[20:18] And not once,
[20:19] but twice,
[20:20] it tried to indict
[20:21] Attorney General James
[20:22] in separate courts.
[20:24] Both grand juries rejected you
[20:26] and refused to indict her.
[20:28] It is practically unheard of
[20:29] for a grand jury
[20:30] to refuse an indictment.
[20:32] In 2016,
[20:33] it happened in just six cases
[20:35] out of over 150,000 offenses.
[20:40] And you had it happened
[20:40] twice in the same week
[20:41] in two different courts.
[20:43] That must have been humiliating.
[20:45] And now there are reports
[20:46] that you are continuing
[20:47] to investigate her.
[20:48] The amount of resources
[20:50] that have gone into targeting
[20:51] Attorney General James,
[20:53] months of investigations,
[20:54] multiple failed indictments
[20:56] is astounding.
[20:58] Since your own prosecutors
[20:59] told you that there is
[21:00] not enough evidence
[21:01] to support a conviction,
[21:02] it's clear that you
[21:04] are going after her
[21:04] simply because she held
[21:06] President Trump accountable
[21:07] and he wants to punish her.
[21:10] And she is just one name
[21:11] on a long list
[21:12] of Trump political enemies
[21:13] that DOJ has reportedly targeting.
[21:15] From Jerome Powell
[21:17] and Lisa Cook
[21:18] at the Federal Reserve
[21:19] to James Comey,
[21:20] numerous Democratic members
[21:21] of Congress,
[21:22] John Brennan,
[21:23] Jack Smith,
[21:24] Democratic officials
[21:25] of Minnesota,
[21:26] Chris Krebs,
[21:27] Miles Taylor,
[21:27] and more.
[21:28] And those are just
[21:29] the ones we know about.
[21:30] In contrast to these
[21:31] politically motivated
[21:33] investigations,
[21:34] grasping at something
[21:35] they can charge
[21:36] their enemies with,
[21:37] we now have concrete evidence
[21:38] of disgusting criminality
[21:40] revealed in the Epstein files.
[21:42] So I have just,
[21:43] so I really have
[21:44] just one question for you.
[21:46] How many of Epstein's
[21:47] co-conspirators
[21:48] have you indicted?
[21:49] How many perpetrators
[21:50] are you even investigating?
[21:59] First, you showed it,
[22:01] I find it.
[22:02] How many have you indicted?
[22:03] Excuse me,
[22:04] I'm going to answer the question.
[22:05] Answer my question.
[22:06] No, I'm going to answer
[22:07] the question the way
[22:08] I want to answer the question.
[22:10] Your theatrics are ridiculous.
[22:11] No, you're going to answer
[22:12] the question the way I asked it.
[22:14] I'm not going to get in the gutter
[22:14] with these people,
[22:14] but I'm going to answer the question.
[22:16] How many have you indicted?
[22:17] Again, the time belongs.
[22:18] I'm claiming my time.
[22:19] The time belongs.
[22:20] I think it's very interesting.
[22:21] I'm claiming my time.
[22:22] I think it's very interesting.
[22:23] And you can reclaim my time.
[22:24] When he talks about they indicted,
[22:26] the president said they indicted him twice.
[22:28] Mr. Chairman, please stop the clock
[22:30] and restore his timing.
[22:31] Oh, okay, here we go
[22:32] with these theatrics.
[22:33] The time belongs
[22:34] to the gentleman from New York.
[22:36] We will give you a few more seconds.
[22:38] We will do that.
[22:38] But when you ask the question,
[22:40] the witness gets to answer.
[22:41] You may not like the answer,
[22:43] but she gets to answer.
[22:44] The question was,
[22:44] how many of Epstein's...
[22:45] They don't like the answer,
[22:47] Chairman?
[22:48] Reclaiming my time.
[22:49] Because it's honest.
[22:50] Reclaiming my time.
[22:50] So he asked a four-minute question.
[22:53] Reclaiming my time.
[22:53] Restore 45 seconds,
[22:54] Mr. Navarro, please, Mr. Chairman.
[22:56] And I am going to ask the answer.
[22:56] And I am going to ask the answer.
[22:57] You can let her filibuster all day long,
[22:58] but not on our watch.
[23:00] Reclaiming my time.
[23:00] Not on our time.
[23:01] No way.
[23:02] Reclaiming...
[23:02] And I told you about that,
[23:03] Attorney General,
[23:04] before you started.
[23:05] You don't tell me anything.
[23:06] Oh, I did tell you,
[23:07] because we saw what you did in the Senate.
[23:08] You're a lawyer.
[23:09] Not even a lawyer.
[23:10] Committee will be in order.
[23:11] Time, and I should get back at least 45 seconds.
[23:13] We will give you a few more seconds.
[23:14] I said that already.
[23:15] 45 seconds.
[23:16] Okay.
[23:17] I'm timing right now, Mr. Navarro.
[23:19] All right.
[23:19] During my time,
[23:20] the answer to my question,
[23:22] how many of Epstein's co-conspirators
[23:23] has she indicted,
[23:25] is zero.
[23:27] You have been the Attorney General
[23:28] for a whole year,
[23:29] and your DOJ fired the lead prosecutor
[23:32] of this case,
[23:33] sat on evidence this entire time,
[23:35] and claimed falsely last July
[23:37] that there were no more leads.
[23:39] It took an act of Congress
[23:40] for you to finally release
[23:41] part of the Epstein files,
[23:42] and when you did,
[23:43] you included personal information
[23:45] about the victims
[23:46] while protecting the names of abusers.
[23:48] Time of the gentleman has expired.
[23:50] It brought to justice.
[23:51] But enormous resource dedicated to...
[23:53] Time of the gentleman has expired,
[23:55] and obviously...
[23:55] It's clear that under your leadership,
[23:57] the Department of Justice...
[23:58] There was no question in there.
[24:00] Murderer's Island 2.
[24:01] It works...
[24:01] ...Donald Trump.
[24:02] I yield back.
[24:02] The gentleman yields back.
[24:04] May I answer?
[24:07] I think our next question,
[24:09] Madam Attorney General,
[24:10] is going to give you time to respond to...
[24:12] Thank you, Chairman.
[24:12] ...all kinds of things.
[24:13] So we will turn to the gentleman
[24:14] from Texas for five minutes.
[24:16] Ms. Bonda, you go right ahead.
[24:17] I'm over here.
[24:19] The time is yours.
[24:20] Thank you.
[24:22] First, he brought up
[24:25] the president saying
[24:26] they indicted me twice.
[24:28] They sure did.
[24:29] They tried to impeach him twice,
[24:30] and you, Mr. Nadler,
[24:32] were one of the leads on the impeachment.
[24:34] I was on the other side.
[24:35] I lived that with you.
[24:37] During impeachment,
[24:38] you said the president conspired,
[24:40] sought foreign interference
[24:42] in the 2016 election.
[24:44] Robert Mueller found no evidence,
[24:47] none of foreign interference in 2016.
[24:50] Have you apologized to President Trump?
[24:53] Have you apologized to President Trump?
[24:56] All of you who participated
[24:57] in those impeachment hearings
[24:59] against Donald Trump,
[25:00] you all should be apologizing.
[25:02] You sit here and you attack the president,
[25:05] and I am not going to have it.
[25:06] I'm not going to put up with it.
[25:08] You know, all they want to do,
[25:10] all the American people need to know this.
[25:13] They are talking about Epstein today.
[25:16] This has been around
[25:17] since the Obama administration.
[25:19] This administration released
[25:22] over three million pages of documents,
[25:25] over three million,
[25:26] and Donald Trump signed that law
[25:29] to release all of those documents.
[25:33] He is the most transparent president
[25:35] in the nation's history.
[25:38] And none of them, none of them,
[25:41] ask Merrick Garland over the last four years
[25:44] one word about Jeffrey Epstein.
[25:49] How ironic is that?
[25:50] You know why?
[25:50] Because Donald Trump,
[25:53] the Dow, the Dow right now,
[25:56] is over, the Dow is over $50,000.
[26:00] I don't know why you're laughing.
[26:01] You're a great stock trader,
[26:02] as I hear, Raskin.
[26:04] The Dow is over $50,000 right now.
[26:08] The S&P at almost $7,000.
[26:11] And the NASDAQ smashing records.
[26:15] Americans 401ks and retirement savings
[26:18] are booming.
[26:19] That's what we should be talking about.
[26:22] We should be talking about making Americans safe.
[26:26] We should be talking about,
[26:27] what does the Dow have to do with anything?
[26:29] That's what they just asked.
[26:30] Are you kidding?
[26:31] Mr. Jordan, Mr. Jordan.
[26:34] Committee will be in order.
[26:35] Mr. Jordan, am I going to get an extra 45 seconds added to my time?
[26:40] The committee will be in order.
[26:41] The time belongs to the gentleman from Texas.
[26:44] Ms. Bondi, the attorney general can respond.
[26:47] Thank you.
[26:49] The Dow has shattered $50,000 for the first time.
[26:53] This is crazy.
[26:55] They said it couldn't be done in four years,
[26:57] yet President Trump has done it in one year.
[27:01] National median rents have fallen to a four-year low,
[27:06] thanks to Donald Trump.
[27:08] That's why they want to focus on Epstein
[27:11] and our most transparent president in the nation's history.
[27:17] The murder rate, as I said,
[27:19] has plummeted to a 125-year low,
[27:24] thanks to Donald Trump.
[27:27] For an unprecedented nine straight months,
[27:34] there were zero illegal border crossings
[27:37] at the southern border.
[27:40] That's what we should be focused on,
[27:43] all the great work that this president has done
[27:45] and will continue to do
[27:48] to keep America safe
[27:50] and to make Americans safe.
[27:53] Thank you.
[27:53] Gentlelady from Washington is recognized.
[27:56] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[27:57] Good morning, Attorney General Bondi, right here.
[28:00] We are joined in this room
[28:02] by some of the thousands of survivors
[28:05] from Jeffrey Epstein's horrific sex trafficking ring.
[28:08] They have shown such incredible courage
[28:11] in speaking out, in demanding accountability
[28:15] to bring the predators and pedophiles to justice.
[28:19] The Epstein Files Transparency Act
[28:21] required your Department of Justice
[28:23] to disclose the perpetrators
[28:25] connected with Epstein's criminal activities
[28:28] and to redact the information of survivors
[28:31] to protect their identities.
[28:33] Let me show you what actually happened.
[28:37] First, in violation of the law,
[28:39] your department has shown a pattern
[28:41] of redacting the names of powerful predators.
[28:45] Here behind me is one example of an email
[28:49] from Epstein to a man whose name was redacted.
[28:52] The email reads, quote,
[28:55] Where are you?
[28:57] Are you okay?
[28:58] I loved the torture video.
[29:02] Only after members of Congress demanded
[29:05] that we see the unredacted files,
[29:07] did the world learn the name of this individual,
[29:11] Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayam,
[29:14] the chairman and CEO of a company
[29:16] that had financial ties
[29:18] to President Trump's business
[29:20] and personal ties to Trump's advisor,
[29:23] Steve Bannon.
[29:24] Second, the survivors were not similarly protected,
[29:28] also in violation of the law.
[29:31] Here is another email titled Epstein Victim List.
[29:35] We have blurred the names of the survivors
[29:37] for their protection,
[29:39] but your Department of Justice
[29:40] initially released this list
[29:42] of 32 survivors' names
[29:45] with only one name redacted,
[29:48] along with numerous files
[29:50] that disclose not only the names,
[29:52] the emails, and the addresses of survivors,
[29:55] but also nude photographs
[29:57] and even the identities of Jane Doe's,
[30:01] who had been protected for decades
[30:03] until your department released their names.
[30:07] Survivors are now telling us
[30:09] that their families are finding out
[30:10] for the first time
[30:12] that they were trafficked by Epstein.
[30:15] In their words, quote,
[30:16] This release does not provide closure.
[30:19] It feels like a deliberate attempt
[30:21] to intimidate survivors,
[30:24] punish those who came forward,
[30:25] and reinforce the same culture of secrecy
[30:29] that allowed Epstein's crimes
[30:31] to continue for decades.
[30:33] To the survivors in the room,
[30:36] if you are willing, please stand.
[30:43] And if you are willing,
[30:45] please raise your hands
[30:46] if you have still not been able to meet
[30:49] with this Department of Justice.
[30:55] Please know for the record
[30:56] that every single survivor
[30:57] has raised their hand.
[30:59] Attorney General Bondi,
[31:04] you apologize to the survivors
[31:06] in your opening statement
[31:07] for what they went through
[31:09] at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein.
[31:11] Will you turn to them now
[31:12] and apologize for what
[31:15] your Department of Justice
[31:17] has put them through
[31:19] with the absolutely unacceptable
[31:23] release of the Epstein files
[31:26] and their information?
[31:34] Congresswoman,
[31:35] you set before Merrick Garland
[31:39] set in this chair twice.
[31:41] Attorney General Bondi,
[31:42] can I finish my answer?
[31:44] No, I'm going to reclaim my time
[31:46] because I asked you a specific question
[31:49] that I would like you to answer,
[31:52] which is,
[31:53] will you turn to the survivors?
[31:55] This is not about anybody
[31:57] that came before you.
[31:58] It is about you taking responsibility
[32:00] for your Department of Justice
[32:02] and the harm that it has done
[32:05] to the survivors
[32:06] who are standing right behind you
[32:09] and are waiting for you
[32:10] to turn to them
[32:12] and apologize
[32:13] for what your Department of Justice has done.
[32:15] Members get to ask the questions.
[32:17] The witness gets to answer
[32:18] in the way they want to answer.
[32:19] The attorney general can respond.
[32:20] That's not accurate, Mr. Chairman.
[32:22] Because she doesn't like the answer.
[32:23] So, um...
[32:25] Mr. Chairman...
[32:26] Why didn't she ask Merrick Garland this?
[32:30] Twice.
[32:31] I am reclaiming my time
[32:32] and when I reclaim my time,
[32:34] it is mine.
[32:35] Mr. Chairman,
[32:35] the general lady has reclaimed her time.
[32:36] I'm not going to get in the gutter
[32:37] for her theatrics.
[32:38] The time belongs to the...
[32:39] The time belongs to the gentlelady.
[32:41] The gentlelady has 17 seconds.
[32:42] Thank you.
[32:44] You're not going to answer this question,
[32:46] so let me just say this.
[32:46] Chairman, I'll direct it to you.
[32:47] What a massive cover-up.
[32:49] No, I'm answering a question.
[32:50] Mr. Chairman,
[32:50] will you restore her time?
[32:51] The witness is interrupting.
[32:52] I'm not going to get in the gutter
[32:53] with this woman.
[32:53] Stop the time.
[32:54] She's doing theatrics.
[32:55] Let me have my...
[32:56] The gentlelady...
[32:56] The gentlelady from Washington
[33:00] You can proceed with your final 17 seconds.
[33:03] What a massive cover-up this has been
[33:05] and continues to be.
[33:07] Donald Trump made the release
[33:08] of the Epstein files
[33:09] the center of his political campaign
[33:11] because he thought it would benefit him.
[33:13] Then you got into office,
[33:15] attorney general,
[33:16] claimed to have a client list,
[33:17] only to them say
[33:18] that there was no list.
[33:21] Your deputy, Todd Blanche,
[33:22] met alone with Elaine Maxwell
[33:25] and transferred her
[33:26] to a minimum security prison
[33:29] and now you continue
[33:31] the cover-up
[33:32] and I wish that you would
[33:34] turn around to the survivors
[33:35] who are standing right behind you
[33:37] and on a human level.
[33:39] Chairman,
[33:40] the chair now recognizes
[33:41] the...
[33:41] I'm what you have done.
[33:43] The time is...
[33:43] The time of the gentlelady
[33:44] expired.
[33:45] The gentlelady...
[33:45] You have no time to yield back.
[33:46] We appreciate that.
[33:47] We appreciate the thought.
[33:50] The...
[33:50] Kentucky is recognized...
[33:52] May I respond very briefly
[33:55] to her statement?
[33:57] I think we can do that
[33:58] probably on one of our members' time.
[34:00] Okay, thank you.
[34:01] I don't want that to get away.
[34:02] Thank you.
[34:03] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[34:04] Behind me, I have three documents
[34:06] from the DOJ production
[34:08] that are emblematic
[34:09] of the massive failure
[34:10] of the DOJ
[34:11] to comply with
[34:12] the Epstein Files Transparency Act.
[34:14] To my right
[34:15] is an email
[34:17] that was sent
[34:17] by the victim's lawyers
[34:18] to the DOJ.
[34:20] It was a list of names
[34:21] not to redact...
[34:23] Sorry,
[34:23] a list of names
[34:24] not to release.
[34:25] What did the DOJ do
[34:27] with this email?
[34:28] They released
[34:29] this email
[34:30] in the document production.
[34:32] Literally,
[34:33] the worst thing
[34:34] you could do
[34:34] to the survivors
[34:35] you did.
[34:37] And they're getting phone calls.
[34:39] A lot of these people
[34:40] didn't want to be known.
[34:41] And we know
[34:42] you touched the document
[34:43] because you redacted
[34:44] one name
[34:45] and you redacted
[34:46] the lawyer's name
[34:47] but you left
[34:47] the survivor's name there.
[34:49] The next document
[34:50] I want to show you
[34:51] that was in the title
[34:53] the victim's
[34:54] survivor's names.
[34:56] The title of this one
[34:58] is Child Sex Trafficking
[34:59] Co-Conspirators
[35:02] Fully Redacted.
[35:05] And by the way
[35:06] I'm going to unredact them here.
[35:10] Les Wexner is in this.
[35:12] Now your assistant
[35:13] your deputy
[35:14] attorney general
[35:16] said
[35:16] oh well he appears
[35:18] hundreds of times
[35:19] in the files
[35:20] but he doesn't appear
[35:21] in this file
[35:22] until I forced you
[35:23] to release it
[35:24] where he's listed
[35:25] where he's listed
[35:25] as a co-conspirator
[35:27] not to tax evasion
[35:29] but to child sex trafficking
[35:32] not to prostitution
[35:34] not to money laundering
[35:35] child sex trafficking.
[35:39] And then finally
[35:40] what we have here
[35:41] is
[35:42] the third exhibit
[35:44] that I have
[35:44] is emblematic
[35:46] of the FD302 release.
[35:48] These are the documents
[35:49] that we need
[35:50] that you're holding on to
[35:52] and over-redacting
[35:53] because they have
[35:54] the names of the men
[35:56] who are implicated.
[35:58] How do we know?
[35:59] Because the survivors
[36:01] gave testimony
[36:02] to the FBI
[36:04] and it's in there.
[36:06] And what happens
[36:07] when you go
[36:07] to the portal
[36:08] at the DOJ
[36:09] to look at
[36:09] what's behind
[36:10] this redaction?
[36:11] Another redaction.
[36:13] So we can't even see them.
[36:15] And then
[36:15] there's some of these files
[36:16] you've pulled down
[36:17] from the website
[36:18] that we will never see
[36:20] because we can't
[36:22] search the redactions.
[36:24] So I have several
[36:26] questions for you.
[36:27] Who's responsible?
[36:28] Are you able to track
[36:29] who in your organization
[36:31] made this massive failure
[36:33] and released
[36:34] the victims' names?
[36:35] Are you able to track
[36:36] who it was
[36:37] that obscured
[36:39] Les Wexner's name
[36:40] as a co-conspirator
[36:42] in an FBI document?
[36:44] Do you have
[36:45] that kind of accountability?
[36:48] I believe Wexner's name
[36:50] was listed
[36:51] more than 4,000 times
[36:53] about...
[36:53] Yeah, I already told you that.
[36:55] This is where he's listed
[36:56] as a co-conspirator.
[36:57] Can I finish my answer?
[36:58] Come on.
[36:59] Let me finish my answer.
[37:01] We corrected that
[37:02] within 40 minutes.
[37:04] He was already...
[37:05] You're acting like
[37:05] everybody's trying
[37:06] to cover up Wexner's name.
[37:08] He was listing...
[37:08] Reclaiming my time.
[37:09] I'm going to answer
[37:10] this question.
[37:10] Reclaiming my time.
[37:11] He was...
[37:12] Mr. Chairman...
[37:12] This isn't how this works.
[37:14] Can I have my time?
[37:14] He was...
[37:15] Mr. Chairman...
[37:16] The general lady
[37:17] can give her answer.
[37:18] The time belongs
[37:19] to the gentleman from...
[37:20] All right.
[37:20] I'm reclaiming my time.
[37:21] Can I give my answer?
[37:22] So, I'm going to put
[37:23] the language of the bill
[37:24] up on the screen.
[37:26] Chairman, may I give my answer
[37:28] on that?
[37:29] Here's the question.
[37:30] It's a political joke
[37:30] and I need to give
[37:31] my answer on that.
[37:32] We'll let the attorney general
[37:33] respond and then the gentleman
[37:34] can move to his next question.
[37:35] Chairman, it's my time.
[37:36] Within 40 minutes...
[37:37] You asked me a question.
[37:39] Within 40 minutes...
[37:41] Wexner's name was added back...
[37:42] Within 40 minutes
[37:43] of me catching you red-handed.
[37:45] Red-handed...
[37:47] There was one redaction...
[37:49] Where he's listed
[37:50] as a co-conspirator.
[37:51] And we invited you in.
[37:54] This guy has
[37:54] Trump derangement syndrome.
[37:56] He needs to get...
[37:57] You're a failed politician.
[37:58] You need to...
[37:59] I want you to watch
[38:00] the video.
[38:00] Chairman, please restore
[38:01] his time and remind
[38:03] the witness of the rules here.
[38:04] There is no credible information.
[38:06] None.
[38:07] If there were,
[38:07] I would bring the case yesterday
[38:09] that he trafficked
[38:10] to other individuals.
[38:12] Is that your position as well?
[38:16] My position is
[38:18] any victim who comes forward,
[38:20] of course,
[38:21] we would love to hear from them.
[38:23] 1-800-CALL-FBI.
[38:26] Did you ask Merrick Garland
[38:28] that the last four years?
[38:30] Did you talk about Epstein...
[38:32] I'm reclaiming my time.
[38:33] I'm glad you're asking
[38:34] about Merrick Garland.
[38:35] You don't get a reclaim time.
[38:36] Because this is bigger
[38:37] than Watergate.
[38:38] When I don't answer
[38:38] a question the way you want.
[38:39] This goes over
[38:40] four administrations.
[38:41] You don't have to go back
[38:42] to Biden.
[38:43] Let's go back to Obama.
[38:44] Let's go back to George Bush.
[38:46] This cover-up spans decades,
[38:48] and you are responsible
[38:50] for this portion of it.
[38:51] And that's where the...
[38:52] I want to know,
[38:53] at what point...
[38:55] At what point
[38:55] did the FBI and the DOJ
[38:58] decide that Lex Wessner
[38:59] was not a co-conspirator?
[39:01] Because our Epstein Files
[39:03] Transparency Act requires you,
[39:05] please put it back on the screen,
[39:07] to release the internal decision
[39:11] about whether to prosecute him or not,
[39:13] and it's not in the files,
[39:15] and it's not in the files
[39:16] for any of these other men.
[39:17] Time of the gentleman
[39:18] has expired.
[39:19] May she answer?
[39:20] And he's a hypocrite
[39:22] because he voted against the ban
[39:24] that we were talking about
[39:25] on deep fake AI porn.
[39:28] Only two people voted against it,
[39:30] and you were one of them, hypocrite.
[39:33] The gentleman's time has expired.
[39:36] She didn't answer the question.
[39:37] Mr. Chairman,
[39:38] Mr. Chairman,
[39:39] could she answer the question?
[39:40] Chairman, I was wondering...
[39:41] The general lady's allowed,
[39:42] the attorney general's allowed
[39:43] to respond the way she wants
[39:44] to respond to any member's questions,
[39:46] Republican, Democrat...
[39:47] All right, I have your name
[39:48] as a consent request.
[39:50] Gentleman's recognized for a UC.
[39:52] All right, this is an example.
[39:54] I'm submitting these 302 forms
[39:56] that are entirely redacted,
[39:58] even when you go to look at them.
[39:59] Without objection.
[40:00] I'm submitting a witness statement
[40:03] that implicates Les Wexner.
[40:05] Without objection.
[40:06] I'm submitting an article
[40:08] from the New York Times
[40:09] that the DOJ released nude photos
[40:11] and identifiable pictures
[40:13] of the victims.
[40:15] I'm submitting a letter
[40:17] from A.G. Bondi to Kash Patel
[40:20] imploring him to quit
[40:23] keeping the files
[40:24] when you found out
[40:25] that they were keeping files from you
[40:27] because they're still redacting files.
[40:30] Chairman, are we going to
[40:31] going to recess for votes?
[40:34] Yes, we are.
[40:34] I'm submitting for unanimous consent
[40:36] a document of 17 individuals
[40:38] who've resigned
[40:39] because of the Epstein files.
[40:41] Without objection.
[40:42] Just want to check in
[40:49] what time, how much time
[40:51] we have left in votes,
[40:52] but one thing I've learned here
[40:53] of late that they'll wait on us.
[40:56] How much time do we have?
[41:01] Oh, they just called.
[41:02] Okay.
[41:02] The chair now recognizes
[41:04] the gentleman from Maryland.
[41:06] And thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[41:08] I want to start by saying
[41:09] I appreciate what you said,
[41:11] Attorney General Bondi,
[41:12] and you said it to me personally,
[41:14] that you take the personal security
[41:16] of every member of Congress seriously
[41:18] and that people can contact you about that.
[41:20] And in these times,
[41:21] that's a very serious matter.
[41:23] So I thank you for that.
[41:25] Article 2, Section 1, Clause 7
[41:27] of the Constitution
[41:28] is the Domestic Emoluments Clause.
[41:31] And it says that the president
[41:33] is limited to his salary in office
[41:35] and cannot receive any other money
[41:37] from the federal government
[41:39] while he's in office.
[41:40] It cannot be increased by $1.
[41:43] This president is the first president
[41:45] in U.S. history
[41:45] who has repeatedly sued
[41:48] the federal government,
[41:49] sued the federal government
[41:50] for $230 million
[41:51] for the judicial search warrant
[41:54] at Mar-a-Lago,
[41:55] which was perfectly lawful
[41:57] and was never struck down.
[41:58] But now he's suing the IRS
[42:00] for $10 billion.
[42:02] He's suing the IRS for $10 billion,
[42:04] which I think is around 80%
[42:06] of its annual budget,
[42:07] because his tax returns were leaked
[42:12] and they were illegally leaked
[42:13] by a private contractor
[42:15] who actually is in prison now,
[42:17] Charles Littlejohn.
[42:17] But he wants $10 billion.
[42:19] Now, I want to ask you the question
[42:23] of whether you think
[42:24] it would violate
[42:25] the Domestic Emoluments Clause
[42:27] for you to settle
[42:28] that $10 billion case
[42:30] or any of the other claims
[42:32] that the president's made
[42:33] against the government.
[42:34] He himself has remarked,
[42:36] it's interesting
[42:37] because I'm the one
[42:38] that makes the deal, right?
[42:40] And he says,
[42:40] I kind of have to work it out
[42:42] with myself.
[42:43] Do you think it would violate
[42:44] the Domestic Emoluments Clause
[42:45] for the president
[42:47] to work out a deal
[42:48] from people
[42:49] or his subordinates
[42:50] under his unitary executive theory
[42:52] to get money
[42:53] in one of these cases?
[42:54] I'm not going to discuss
[42:56] pending litigation.
[42:58] Okay, so theoretically,
[42:59] you're saying
[43:00] because his privacy rights
[43:03] were violated
[43:04] in that tax case,
[43:06] and they were.
[43:06] I'm with the president on that.
[43:07] I mean, his Mar-a-Lago thing
[43:09] is ridiculous,
[43:09] but there's no doubt
[43:11] that his tax returns,
[43:12] despite the fact
[43:13] that he promised
[43:14] to release them,
[43:15] despite the fact
[43:15] that every other president
[43:16] released the tax returns,
[43:17] he suffered embarrassment
[43:19] when it showed
[43:19] that he hadn't paid taxes
[43:20] for several years,
[43:21] and he had a right
[43:22] for that not to happen.
[43:24] Now, I want to turn back
[43:25] to the Epstein survivors,
[43:27] because President Trump
[43:28] may have been
[43:29] a little bit embarrassed
[43:31] by the release
[43:33] of those tax returns.
[43:36] How much do you think
[43:37] the claims
[43:39] of these survivors
[43:40] are worth?
[43:42] As the good congressman
[43:44] from Kentucky
[43:45] just pointed out,
[43:46] there were lots of survivors
[43:48] who had decided,
[43:50] for reasons of their own,
[43:51] never to release their names.
[43:53] That determination
[43:54] was represented
[43:55] to people in Congress,
[43:57] and we built it
[43:57] into our federal law
[43:59] that their names
[44:00] could not be released,
[44:01] and yet you published
[44:03] their names,
[44:04] their phone numbers,
[44:04] their addresses,
[44:05] personally identifying information.
[44:07] If Donald Trump
[44:08] can get $10 billion,
[44:10] theoretically,
[44:10] from the Department of Justice,
[44:12] how much should these people
[44:14] get for a far worse violation
[44:17] of their privacy rights
[44:18] and a far greater danger
[44:20] established to them
[44:21] in their lives?
[44:22] Do you even know
[44:27] who Chase Mulligan is?
[44:29] You're so obsessed with it.
[44:30] You don't, do you?
[44:31] I'm going to teach you
[44:31] the rules again.
[44:32] You're the Attorney General
[44:33] of the United States.
[44:33] We have rules here.
[44:34] You're obsessed with him.
[44:35] You're the Attorney General
[44:35] of the United States.
[44:36] You're obsessed with Donald Trump.
[44:37] You have Trump derangement syndrome.
[44:39] Mr. Chairman,
[44:40] I'd like my time restored.
[44:41] Chase Mulligan will be Senate
[44:41] next week in your district.
[44:44] In your district,
[44:45] and you don't even know about it,
[44:46] about keeping children safe
[44:48] from online predators.
[44:49] I belong to the gentleman
[44:51] from Maryland.
[44:52] The gentleman can proceed.
[44:52] And I just,
[44:53] I want the whole country
[44:55] to look at this
[44:56] because this is the Attorney General
[44:57] of the United States
[44:58] whose job is law enforcement.
[45:00] We've never had a witness
[45:01] who has misunderstood our rules
[45:03] and been unable to conform
[45:05] his or her conduct
[45:06] to our rules before.
[45:07] We have only five minutes.
[45:10] And so we use our time
[45:12] to ask you specific questions.
[45:14] How long are you giving me
[45:15] to answer?
[45:15] Excuse me.
[45:15] I'm not yielding to you right now.
[45:17] I'd like that second restored too.
[45:20] So Ms. Bondi,
[45:21] the way it works is
[45:22] we ask you a question
[45:23] and you answer it.
[45:24] And if you go off
[45:25] on a wild goose chase,
[45:27] another tangent,
[45:28] you start reading statistics
[45:29] or you start talking about
[45:30] stuff going on in our district.
[45:31] And by the way,
[45:32] I invite you to my district.
[45:33] Come to my district.
[45:34] But that's not what
[45:35] we're here to do today.
[45:36] Okay?
[45:37] So, and you do that,
[45:38] then we're allowed to say
[45:39] we reclaim our time.
[45:40] At that point,
[45:41] you have to be quiet.
[45:43] You have no choice.
[45:44] You have to be quiet.
[45:45] So I hope you understand
[45:46] the rule of this point.
[45:47] Now here's what I want to ask you.
[45:50] You're in law enforcement.
[45:52] We've seen all kinds
[45:53] of evidence of crimes.
[45:55] And when we go over
[45:55] to the Department of Justice
[45:56] for the four computers
[45:57] for every member of Congress,
[45:58] we see more evidence of crimes.
[46:00] Will you create
[46:01] a joint task force
[46:03] of the Department of Justice
[46:05] and governors
[46:06] and state attorney generals
[46:07] and district attorneys
[46:09] across the country
[46:10] to investigate the crimes
[46:11] that have taken place
[46:12] against these victims
[46:14] and more than a thousand
[46:15] like them?
[46:16] The DOJ is not doing its job.
[46:18] Will you create a task force
[46:19] with state and local law enforcement
[46:21] to make that happen?
[46:26] General, I can respond
[46:27] if she wants to.
[46:30] Thank you, Chairman.
[46:31] He called Chase Mulligan
[46:32] a wild goose chase
[46:34] and didn't even know
[46:34] who he was.
[46:36] He is a defendant
[46:37] in your own district
[46:38] who preyed on girls.
[46:40] Mr. Chairman.
[46:41] Well, you know what?
[46:42] If he were part of the Epstein
[46:43] investigation,
[46:43] you wouldn't do anything about it.
[46:44] In social media
[46:45] and online chat rooms
[46:46] and committed sextortion.
[46:49] Yet he didn't even know
[46:50] in your tiny little district
[46:52] who he was.
[46:53] Mr. Chairman,
[46:53] she's embarrassing you.
[46:54] He's about to be fine.
[46:55] This is your committee
[46:56] and she is embarrassing you.
[46:57] The time on you.
[46:58] The time of the gentleman
[46:59] has expired.
[47:00] I would remind you.
[47:01] Attorney General Bondi,
[47:04] that man works for you now,
[47:06] right?
[47:07] Who was that,
[47:10] congresswoman?
[47:11] The man in that video,
[47:12] the one who was in the police
[47:14] worn body cam footage,
[47:16] the one allegedly yelling
[47:17] kill him at police officers
[47:19] on January 6th,
[47:22] his name is Jared Wise.
[47:23] He does work for us.
[47:24] He works for you
[47:24] at the Department of Justice.
[47:26] He does.
[47:27] This is an individual
[47:28] whom a federal grand jury
[47:30] indicted for two felonies
[47:33] and four misdemeanors
[47:34] related to his participation
[47:35] in the attack on January 6th.
[47:38] One of those charges
[47:39] was forcibly assaulting,
[47:40] resisting, opposing,
[47:41] impeding, intimidating,
[47:42] interfering with police
[47:43] with the intent
[47:45] to commit another felony.
[47:47] This is who you choose
[47:49] as the chief law enforcement
[47:51] officer of the United States
[47:52] of America to hire
[47:53] at the Department of Justice.
[47:55] Someone on video
[47:56] yelling kill him
[47:58] at police officers, right?
[48:02] I believe he was pardoned
[48:04] by President Trump.
[48:05] Oh, he was pardoned.
[48:06] You're right.
[48:07] You're right.
[48:08] Kill him at police officers.
[48:17] And yet you expect
[48:18] hardworking police officers
[48:20] across the country
[48:20] to believe
[48:21] that you take
[48:22] law enforcement seriously.
[48:25] You could imagine
[48:25] the reaction
[48:27] of so many folks
[48:29] across the country
[48:30] hearing the chief
[48:32] law enforcement officer
[48:33] of the United States
[48:34] refuse to even condemn
[48:38] what that individual
[48:39] whom you've now hired did.
[48:42] But in any event,
[48:44] let's talk a little bit
[48:44] about some of the other divisions
[48:45] within the Department of Justice
[48:47] and what's happened
[48:48] over the last year.
[48:49] You're familiar
[48:50] with the public integrity section
[48:51] of the DOJ's criminal division.
[48:52] I think it's referred to as PIN.
[48:54] Is that right?
[48:55] Yes.
[48:56] Okay.
[48:57] Do you know
[48:57] which presidential administration
[48:58] under which the PIN
[49:01] was first created?
[49:02] I can tell you
[49:03] what administration
[49:03] that the weaponization
[49:05] was ended under.
[49:06] I'll reclaim my time.
[49:07] This wasn't a trick question,
[49:08] Madam Attorney General.
[49:09] You don't get to reclaim your time.
[49:09] Madam Attorney General.
[49:10] Because I don't like him.
[49:11] Mr. Chairman,
[49:12] I don't answer a question
[49:12] that he does reclaim his time.
[49:15] Because I don't answer
[49:16] a question to your satisfaction.
[49:17] Madam Attorney General,
[49:19] the time belongs
[49:20] to the gentleman from Colorado.
[49:22] The president under which PIN
[49:23] was created
[49:24] was Gerald Ford.
[49:25] It was created
[49:26] after Waterloo.
[49:27] I'm not asking a question,
[49:28] Madam Attorney General.
[49:29] The administration
[49:30] under which it was created
[49:30] was Gerald Ford.
[49:31] When you first started
[49:32] as the Attorney General
[49:33] of the United States,
[49:34] there were 35 people
[49:35] working in that office.
[49:36] There are now two people
[49:37] working in that office
[49:37] because you have gutted it.
[49:39] How many people work
[49:40] for the National Cryptocurrency
[49:42] Enforcement Team
[49:43] in the criminal division today?
[49:48] Can I answer the question
[49:49] about PIN?
[49:50] I've asked you a question.
[49:51] How many people work
[49:52] for the National Cryptocurrency
[49:55] Enforcement Team?
[49:57] You won't answer how many people.
[49:58] I'll answer PIN.
[50:01] PIN will not be weaponized.
[50:02] You know what?
[50:02] Actually, you know what?
[50:03] What's funny about this?
[50:04] I'll say to the chairman.
[50:05] What's funny about this?
[50:06] Madam Attorney General,
[50:06] you know what the answer is?
[50:08] And I think I understand
[50:09] why the Attorney General
[50:10] does not want to answer
[50:10] the question
[50:11] because you eliminated
[50:12] the National Cryptocurrency
[50:13] Enforcement Team last year.
[50:14] So I understand why
[50:15] you don't want to tell
[50:16] the American people
[50:16] who works there.
[50:17] Yeah, I understand
[50:18] why you don't want to talk
[50:19] about Mohammed Solomon
[50:20] in your district
[50:21] who murdered people.
[50:22] Mr. Chairman,
[50:22] will you stop the clock
[50:23] so his time is not wasted
[50:25] by the witness?
[50:25] I've been very generous
[50:26] with allowing extra time
[50:27] when we have these little disputes.
[50:29] I understand.
[50:30] You got the time?
[50:31] I might as well ask
[50:33] the chairman these questions
[50:34] because what's profound,
[50:37] the questions I've asked
[50:39] the crime in your district.
[50:40] The questions I've asked,
[50:41] Mr. Chairman,
[50:42] are not trick questions.
[50:44] They're not gotcha questions.
[50:46] They're actually basic questions
[50:47] about how the Department
[50:48] of Justice functions
[50:49] and the unwillingness
[50:51] of this Attorney General
[50:52] to answer them
[50:54] in good faith.
[50:55] When a member of Congress
[50:56] asks how many people work
[50:58] at the National Cryptocurrency
[50:59] Enforcement Team
[51:00] and the Attorney General
[51:02] refuses to answer it,
[51:04] it is not a coincidence.
[51:06] It's because she eliminated
[51:08] the team.
[51:08] Why?
[51:09] Because her boss,
[51:11] the President of the United States,
[51:13] is making money
[51:13] hand over fist,
[51:15] $1.4 billion
[51:16] over the course of the last year
[51:18] through cryptocurrency holdings.
[51:20] I think what is happening
[51:21] at the Department of Justice
[51:22] is a disgrace,
[51:24] Mr. Chairman,
[51:25] and I would urge you
[51:27] to gain control
[51:28] of this hearing.
[51:30] With that,
[51:31] I yield back
[51:31] to balance my time.
[51:32] Yeah.
[51:33] I would ask the gentleman
[51:35] does he agree
[51:35] with the standing up
[51:37] of the Deputy Attorney General
[51:39] for-
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