Special Planning & Zoning Board — Sep 17, 2024

Excellent. Welcome to this call to order for the Planning and Zoning Board meeting for the City of Plantation, September 17th, 2021-2024. Can you please have a roll call? Okay. Mr. McIntosh? Here. Ms. Demby-Burger? Present. Mr. Coleman? Here. Ms. Peacock? Here. Mr. Goldstein? Here. Ms. Goffund? Here. Thank you. All right. First order of business is approved for meeting minutes for July 16th, 2024. Does anybody have any additions or corrections to the minutes? Do I have a motion? Motion to approve. That was loud. That was really loud. I'll give you a second on that one. Can we please call the roll? Mr. McIntosh? Yes. I'm sorry. We're going to have a louder residual. We've been having issues with the audio, so if once you speak, if you can turn off your mics, I'd greatly appreciate it. Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to call again. Okay. All right. So Mr. McIntosh? Yes. Ms. Demby-Berger? Yes. Mr. Poorman? Yes. Ms. Peacock? Yes. Mr. Goldstein? Yes. Ms. Goffund? Yes. Thank you. All right. We're going to reverse the order of items today and do quasi-judicial first. That would be PM24-0089, consideration of our request to approve a practical difficulty record for the Dalai residence property located at 10080 Southwest 2nd Street, Zonda RS 3K. Mr. Attorney, do you have to read the name? I do. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before anyone on this particular item is up at the podium speaking, I will swear on all witnesses at the close of these remarks. When you come to the podium, please state your name or whether or not you have been administered the oath. Any speaker may be cross-examined. If you refuse to be cross-examined, your testimony may not be considered. Cross-examination shall be conducted in a courteous manner. The material on the city clerk's agenda packet will be made a part of the record. The city staff will make the first presentation, followed by presentation from the applicant and any affected parties. Do we have any affected parties in this particular man, clerk, to your knowledge? We did receive one email. I forwarded it to PZ, and they are AWARE. Are they here? Yes. She did make herself known. Okay, we'll deal with that. Among any parties in the public, the board may set reasonable time for speakers. The hearing room will begin closed, and the matter decided. The board's decision will be delineated in its motion and rendered into a development order here tonight. The board may also consider the matter for a designated time to allow for additional information if needed. With that being stated, all those here for PN 24-0089, the law residents, please stand and be sworn in. Are the folks behind you here for you swear from the testimony you gave will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? You may be seated. Mr. Chairman. All right. Staff, if you would. Hi, this is Oak with the City of Plantation Planning and Zoning Department. Good evening. The item before you is numbered PN 24-0089. Okay. Here is the property located. It's at 1080 Southwest 2nd Street. His ownership is with Canary and Nielish Dalau. And as you can see, the property right here is surrounded also by all RS3K zoned property. The subject site is developed with a one-story, 4,594-square-foot single-family residence with a garage, patio, and swimming pool with a lot around 18,000 square feet. The property is also located within the Jacare and Nielish Dalau community, just east on the Hyattis and Broward. Not Hyattis and Broward. Sorry. No, Broward. The area is characterized by single-family residences. It is fully developed. Okay. And here is the site plan. Okay. Out back here for the public notification boundary. Just to let you guys know that, we did send out a public notification within 300 feet of the subject property, which is right here on the corner. Okay. We did receive one email on September 16th. And the email states that, to whom it may concern, my name is Penny Kukier. I live at 1060 Southwest 2nd Street, which is right, whoops, sorry, pushing the wrong button, right here. When the fence was approved by the Jacare and Decay Homeowners Association, it also had to meet the City of Plantation's landscaping requirements. I hope the Plantation Planning and Zoning Board will continue to require mulched landscaping planted as a hedge along the outboard side of the fence. We want our community to continue to look the best it can be, requiring landscaping and decorative live greenery, as stated in Section 27-254A28, and Section 27-29602D will help to do that. Thank you, Penny Kukier. Okay. The site plan is here. There is an existing fence right here. And the applicant had a permit to replace the existing fence with a new fence. So, right here, what we're showing you is the existing four-foot-wide sidewalk on their property, which is the public city sidewalk on the property. Here's their property line right here, the area of where we're concerned about. Okay. A building permit was applied for by the applicant to replace the existing wood fence. And at the time of permitting, the plans did indicate that there was a fence along Southwest 101st Avenue that would be six feet in height and setback at least five feet from the property line with landscape material and hedge on the outboard side of the fence, meeting the code requirements. The permit was issued. So, this is what we typically hand out to people for our typical fence diagrams shown in the corner lot. As you can see, we always tell people to have the five-foot setback here with landscaping. Okay. So, the applicant's request is a little bit two-fold. There's two sections that require the outboard live greenery, and one is this section here, which also requires a five-foot setback. So, she's asking for a setback waiver to four feet, between two and four feet, and to not provide live greenery along the entire, where are we? This section along the fence along Southwest 101st Avenue. Okay. I'm sorry to interrupt. Can you get back to that one? Yeah. Are you talking about just the arced red line or the entire red line of the proposed fence? She is proposing to not have any live greenery here. So, along the red line? Along the red line. Okay, thank you. Okay, and I'll have a blow-up of this little section later. Okay. Okay, so we've got, and here is the landscape requirement from the landscape code, which does require mulched shrubs along the fence or wall. And so, she's asking to not have that along that red section we were just showing. Okay, so here is the site plan again. We're going to show you the enlargement of this area right here. Okay, sorry. Let me catch up. Okay, so the blue line is the old fence location that they had. And the pink line here, which is supposed to be pink, but I know you can't really tell it's pink now that it's on the screen. But it's, this portion right here is where the new fence is replacing the old fence in the exact same location. And then here is the extension of the new fence, the new location right here. And the yellow is obviously the four-foot-wide sidewalk. Okay. Looking at that, is there supposed to be between the pink and yellow space? No. Or it can go up to the yellow? She's, she's proposing to put the fence right up against the sidewalk. And that's where her old fence was located as well. So, I will show you that as well. We've got some pictures of the existing, what the previous fence looked like. So, we're suggesting or actually recommending that she do put at least shrubs in this location here. Okay. So, here is what we got, pictometry pictures from BCPA, which kind of shows where the fence is. So, this is there, you know, between the two neighbors. And you can kind of see like a little notch. Here is a bashoffia, bashoffia tree right there. And you can kind of see the tree here as well. And the next slide will show you the fence. So, you can see where her existing fence was here, right up against the sidewalk. Okay. Okay. So, I'm just going to flip to here. Here's the Google view of her property, kind of showing where the existing fence was. And then here is like a kind of approximate location of where the new fence is going to go. So, this is kind of where we want to put the shrubbery. So, okay. So, the building department issued the permit for this year to replace the wood fence with a new white PVC fence along southwest on 1st Avenue and returning the perpendicular to the west side of the home. At the time of the permitting, the plans did indicate everything met code. You know, a six-foot high fence, five-foot from the property line with landscape material on the upward side of the fence. She had a fence permit in 2000, which is for this fence right here, from that exact location right there. So, at the time of the final landscaping inspection for the fence, the inspection was denied and then approved of their inspection because it didn't meet the five-foot setback and didn't have the live green on the outside. For some reason, I'm not sure what the notes meant on the permit inspection sheet, the landscape inspector approved the inspection and the permit was closed out. The inspector at that time did not have that authority to do it, but yet it came over here. So, she had this existing fence that she was just trying to replace on the curvature of her property. Okay. So, here's another picture, and here's another kind of angle of the location of the fences. And the fence is in under construction right now. So, we have some under construction pictures that are from the homeowner. So, we have, you can kind of see where we want the fence, or the shrubs to go right in front of the fence. Here's the Bishofia tree. You can kind of see the roots of the Bishofia tree. I know I'm not saying that right. And kind of the, we want to install this fence in the exact same location of where it was previously installed. Okay. Again, here's just another angle here. And this is the corner of, you know, this right, that corner right there. Okay. So, as previously stated, we did receive one email. I believe she's in the audience if she wants to speak. And from what we can tell, we feel that this does, is not a, substantially does meet the code requirement. It is four feet from the property line. And that curvature area, we do want her to put shrubs into that other area that we were showing you. We understand why she can't put any shrubs where the tree is. So, we believe that she means that, substantially means the code in that area. We do believe it is mostly compatible with the development patterns. And it does meet the essential character of the neighborhood. It was an existing fence before. And we do not believe that this fence will be a detriment to the surrounding neighborhood. Okay. Okay. We do recommend approval. And do you guys have any questions for us? Any questions for the dais? Can you go back to the one picture with the tree? Because there seems to be, my question, I guess, would be the space from the ground to the white. Because that is, I can see, slightly unattractive. Could you put smaller bushes there? Would that meet the requirement? Shorter bushes? That is a really good question. And I do not know the answer to that. So, let me grab the landscape and it'll be brown. Okay. Thank you. Sure. While you're doing that. Oh, well. Yeah. Okay. Because he's right here. Yeah. So. Okay. Good evening. For the record, Inderley Brown. Basically, the fence area you see there, they can accomplish portocarpus hedges, usually used in a tight space. Portocarpus hedges, not the portocarpus tree. I say that because it gets commingled. But up to that point where the tree is. After that, the fence is delineated adjacent to the sidewalk, so it wouldn't be feasible. So, you're saying they could put hedges there, but they can't? From where you see the fence there now, the left picture, going towards the front of the home. For here? But coming this way, towards us, it wouldn't be feasible because it's adjacent to the sidewalk. So, this area right here would not be feasible? Yes, correct. But then this up here would be? Yes. Okay. Yes. And you would have that, how big is that space, that gap? It looks like it goes from a foot to about two and a half feet. But you could get hedges, that type of species that grows thin in that area. Thank you. Could you go back to the site plan for the lot? Yeah. For the lot image? Yeah. So, property line is in blue, correct? Correct. Was the sidewalk built on their property line? Yes. And it was in the staff report, but I didn't put it in the presentation, was that this is affecting three or four of the properties in their neighborhood. So, let me go back to the aerial so you can see right here. Is there an easement associated with that or was it a screw-up? None that I can find. So, in other words, their situation is a result of the fact that somebody put a sidewalk on their piece of property. And it affects, the developer probably, it affects this property, this property, these three properties right here. So, that particular cul-de-sac does not have proper placement of the sidewalk? I would like some bare shilling to come here. Yeah, I believe you're correct, but I don't have any easements or anything like that. Right. The reason why I'm asking is that if they have to build back five feet from the property line and four feet of it is occupied by a sidewalk that was not their fault, I don't see how we can hold them responsible for that. Right. Good evening, Samira Shalans, city engineer. I can't remember if there is a sidewalk easement or not. However, I visited the site personally a few times from my observation of visiting the site the following. Number one, the curvature of the cul-de-sac is done for the turning gradii for the fire department. So, that's one thing to be taken into consideration because I worked with the applicant to see what other alternative could be done just to resolve the existing condition. And that wasn't one of the options because we're then manipulating the curvature of the cul-de-sac. So, that's number one to be mentioned. Number two, yes, Lisa is correct. The sidewalk is within the property and not just their property but the neighboring properties. Moving the sidewalk wasn't feasible because there is a safety zone between the travel lane or the roadway and the sidewalk for pedestrian protection, which is minimum four to six feet. So, we entertained moving the sidewalk closer to the road but that will not meet the safety zone for pedestrian, therefore, was not feasible. Therefore, you know, I'm in support of having the situation as is today. Oh, yeah, and I totally get that part. That was kind of the direction that I was going because, in essence, through no fault of their own, they can't meet the code. Correct. Okay. Thank you. No problem. From staff, any questions up here? No. Would the applicant like to speak? Would anybody else in the chamber like to speak on the issue? I'm just one of your neighbors. No other necessary. All right. In that case, then, I will close discussion on this one and entertain a motion. I move to approve subject to staff comments. Can you personally? Specific. Sure. So, specifically, the staff recommendation for the shrubs within the part where the fence curves a little bit away from the road. I don't have a more, like, I don't have the length of the fence or anything, but subject to that staff recommendation. Well. If I need to reword that, tell me how to reword that. I will. So, what staff is recommending is a revision to building permit B24-01596 to require, which is required for a change in location of the fence. They also recommend a partial approval, which includes the shrubs be planted on the outbound side of the fence along Southwest 101 Act. It's in the report. You've seen this already. Yeah, but I don't have it in front of me. Like, I can't read it. Oh, I thought you had your packet. I'm sorry. No. There's no printout, unfortunately. Okay. So, it's listed in the proposed order. So, in the end of me leaving the rest of it, you can just say that. Unless there's been a change. Is there anything? Okay. All right. So, we have a motion. Do we have a second? I second. Motion is second. Please call the roll. Okay. Mr. McIntosh? Yes. Ms. Dandy-Burger? Yes. Mr. Corman? Yes. Ms. Peacock? Yes. Mr. Goldstein? Yes. Ms. Gelfand? Yes. Thank you. All right. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you for showing up. Now, moving on. Public area, PP23-0040, PP23-0041, PP23-0042, consideration of a request for conditional use, flexion, and assignment, site plan, elevation, and landscape plan, approval for 8601, West Sunrise Redevelopment. The property is located at 8601, West Sunrise Boulevard, and Zone B7Q, planned commercial development. Staff will be ready. Staff will be ready. Good evening. Thank you, Mr. Chair. For the record, Dan Holmes, Planning, Zoning, and Economic Development Director. As indicated, this is application PP23-0040. The applicant is requesting several things as part of the overall request. First, the applicant is requesting site plan, elevation, and landscape plan approval to permit the development of 512 multifamily dwelling units and 24,970 square feet of commercial use. The applicant is also requesting that the city allocate 420 flexibility units toward the proposed development, approval of 92 density bonus housing units at the moderate income level as permitted by policy 2.16.3 of the Broward County Comprehensive Plan, conditional use approval to allow multifamily residential use in a planned commercial development B7Q zoning district. Just so you know, and I'll kind of get into that a little later, the B7Q zoning district, all uses that are approved within the B7Q zoning district are approved as conditional uses, and so that's why you see this request. And then finally, the applicant is requesting six zoning and two landscape waivers from chapter 27 of the city's code. So those are the five requests that make up this application. So in terms of location, the property is located along West Sunrise Boulevard, about a quarter of a mile west of the Pine Island Road, on the north side of Sunrise. This sort of gives you some perspectives of the property, kind of looking at everything from the east. So if you were coming from University Drive, headed west on Sunrise, this was the property here. This is sort of a northwest view of the property. This is a southeast view of the property, and this kind of gives you a southwest view of the location of the property. Again, the property is located at 8601 West Sunrise Boulevard. The owner of the site is the 8601 West Sunrise Owner, LLC. The overall size of the property is approximately 13.72 net acres and 16.83 gross acres. And the underlying zoning for the site is B7Q, and the underlying land use is the city's commercial land use designation. This is, again, the site, and you kind of get a visual here of how the property owner is proposing to develop the site, the proposed site plan. And you can see here that the property is bound by a canal and then some single-family residential uses here, which are located within the city of Sunrise to the north. To the south here is Sunrise Boulevard, and then there's some multi-family uses to the south. To the east of the site, which is located here, there's office uses. And to the west of the site, there's a canal here and some additional office uses. This is, to the left, this kind of gives you an area of view of how the property is currently developed. It is vacant at this time. It was previously occupied, but it's been vacant for several years now. And what you see on the right side here is the Jack-O-Rand, the parcel 320 plat, which the property sits on. In terms of notice, as I indicated, there are several notice, several types of land development applications, I should say. There's a site plan, there's conditional uses based upon the totality of those land development applications. We are required to do public notification of a 1,000-foot boundary. And so this line kind of shows the 1,000-foot boundary here. And so all parcels and property owners within this line would have received notification of the hearing this evening. Kind of an overview of what's being requested here, 512 residential units, 498 would be apartment rentals. And I'll kind of show you how they're proposing to lay out the site. 51 would be affordable units at the moderate income level. 14 for sale townhomes are proposed as part of the overall development. And then there's 24,970 square feet of commercial space located in two standalone buildings. And then a portion of one of the buildings, which is an eight-story building, does have on the ground floor some commercial space. There are 833 parking spaces, 453 garage spaces, and 380 surface spaces. Some of the amenities that they're proposing are there will be two pools, a pickleball court, a dog park, and a playground. And so this is the site plan. So as I indicated, the biggest building, the eight-story building, is located here, which we call B1. There are 272 dwelling units located within this building. The three-story buildings are located here. There's 48 dwelling units in this building. Within the B3 building, there are 60 dwelling units. The B4 building has 48 dwelling units. The B5 and the B6 buildings have 36. And then the townhome units, which are two stories located at the rear here, each have six dwelling units. As we indicated, this is a mixed-use development. So as part of the B1 building located to the very southern part of the parcel here, there's 12,023 square foot of commercial or retail space. There is a separate building here, which would house retail as well at 3,267 square feet. And then there's an additional R2 building here, which would also be proposed as retail at 9,600 square feet. So that's kind of how the property is proposed overall. Then with regard to the amenities, there's a pool that's located here. And there's also a pool that's kind of located in the northern part of the site here for the buildings that are located here. Pickleball Court, as I alluded to earlier, is located here. There's a dog park located here. And a kids' play area located next to one of the B8 townhome buildings. Parking. So the city's parking code has different parking standards for different units. So you can see here as you kind of go down this column here, studio requires parking at 1.5 spaces per unit, one bedroom at 1.75 spaces, and so forth. So as you go down this column, guest spaces are required at one per four units. So based upon all of these, the different uses here and the commercial uses that you see here at 1.500, the overall total required parking for the site would be 1,242 spaces. The applicant is proposing to provide 833 spaces. Part of this is because of the mixed-use nature of it. They're also located along the Sunrise Boulevard corridor and close to both the University Drive and also the Pine Island Road where there are transit corridors as well. So they're looking to get some credit for being located in such a manner. So the difference there would be 409 spaces at a 33% reduction. And there are 19 ADA or handicapped spaces located within the overall site. This kind of identifies some of the, both the circulation, automobile, pedestrian circulation into the parcel. So this is the Sunrise Boulevard corridor located here. So at the sort of eastern or the east portion of the property, so if you're headed west on Sunrise, there's entryway here, divided entryway here, so ingress, egress into the site. And you can see here, if you follow the red lines, this kind of shows you how you can maneuver about the site. And then there's a second egress, egress into the site at the western portion of the site along Sunrise Boulevard. Pedestrian circulation, you kind of see here in blue. So there's access from the sidewalk, which runs along Sunrise Boulevard into the site. And then there are different access and crossings that you see that are located to assist pedestrian movement within the site. And there's also an existing bus stop located along the Sunrise Boulevard corridor in front of the property or to the south of the property located here. They have also tried to take into consideration that there will be dining facilities, restaurants located within the overall development, and to allow for some outdoor seating. They've kind of allotted, if you see here, some of the outdoor dining areas that are highlighted here in yellow, which would be available for the site. In terms of the flex unit, as I indicated earlier, the applicant is requesting to utilize the city's flex units. So the city allows up to a maximum density of 25 dwelling units per acre because the underlying land use on the site is commercial. To develop residential use on the site, the applicant would have to allocate flex units for development here. And so what they're requesting, the overall density or gross density of 16.83 acres times 25 dwelling units per acre would equal 420 dwelling units. That would be permitted based upon the allocation of the flex unit. They're also proposing as part of those flex unit allocation to have 51 affordable units at a moderate income level or 120 percent of area median income. Pursuant the policy 2.16.3 of the Borough County land use plan, if they are able to, if the city approves this, they are also allowed a total of, I'm sorry, that should be six market units for every moderate income unit. So that would be a total of 51 moderate income times six would be 306 bonus density. Although they would be permitted, based upon that calculation, a total of 306 bonus density, they're actually requesting to utilize 92 bonus density units of those 306. So the 420 that you have here plus the 92 bonus would equal the 512. And again, of these 420, 51 of those would be where the affordable housing units would come from. So it's just sort of a breakdown of the math and the density and how we get to the overall proposal of 512 total units. It's also conditional uses. The B7Q district requires that all uses that are permitted within each B7Q designation are approved on a conditional use basis. So the applicant is requesting to allow the multifamily residential uses that we've indicated earlier. And also in order to allow various uses within the retail or commercial section, they are requesting, they have requested, I should say, to allow all commercial uses permitted in the B2P zoning district. Staff sort of went through the uses within the B2P district. We had some questions about some of the uses within the B2P zoning district that we did not necessarily think were conducive to a mixed-use environment or a pedestrian-oriented nature of the site. And so we have requested that some of the uses like that you see here not be permitted as part of the B2P. So these are uses that we would recommend that you would take out of the B2P uses that they're requesting. I'll give you a moment to take a look at that. While we've got it up there. Is it on your screen there? Well, we've got it up there since you have it. What qualifies as fast food restaurant? You mean like what? Yeah, in other words, like if a Shake Shack were to say go in there. I mean, it's a high-end fast food restaurant. So the question is excluding something like that. As long as it's walk-in, it would be permitted. Fast food, sorry, we're looking at drive-through type amenities and other things. But if it was just a regular restaurant and you walk in for counter service, sit down, that would be permitted. So I would guess a better question. Do we have a definition as to what fast food is in code? Yes, we do have a definition. I'll try to have staff look up that definition for you. Thank you. Okay. The applicant is also proposing to develop the site in three phases. Phase one, as you see on the left, is sort of highlighted here. So phase one would include some just overall site improvements, construction of the lake and the access road that you see here. The R2 retail building that you see located here. Garden apartments B2, B4, B5, and B6, which are kind of located here. No, I'm just going to read the definition. Fast food restaurant means an eating establishment whose principal business is the sale of food and beverages and a ready-to-eat state usually prepared without reference to a specific menu order for consumption in premises or for carry-out and consumption off-premises. And whose principal method of operation is food, which is packaged for delivery in paper classic, metallic foil, or disposable containers, and where services provided over-the-counter with no waiting table service. Usually, meals are posted in plain view at the area where the order is taken, and this area is different than the area where food is consumed. Any establishment would drive-through service shall be considered fast food. Thank you. So, yes, I'm sorry. So, garden apartments B2, B4, B5, and B6, which is the buildings that are located here, and townhome buildings B7 and B8, and also would include amenities next to the townhomes, which were both the dog park and the playground. Phase 2 would consist of garden apartment B3, which you see here, and pickleball court, which was located here. And then finally, phase 3 would be building 1, including the retail R1 amenities at the ground floor, and the R3 retail building that you see located here, and also portions of the access road as well. Looking at phase 1, the kids' play area, what is that abutting? What is that the road? What is that right there? No, this is the very north end of the site. There's a canal located here, and then beyond that is the city of Sunrise with single-family homes. So, it's playground up to the canal? Yes, there's a little yard area back here, and then the canal would be what we're running along here. I can go back and kind of show you an overall. That's all right. Thank you. All right. I'm almost there, so let me go back one. So, right here, these are the townhomes. These are the amenities here, and then the pool. You can see the canal here, and then the single-family homes. So, this kind of gives you a perspective of the proposed buildings. You can see that the architecture as proposed is kind of linear and contemporary with a breakdown of massing and heights and a wider range of materials with flat roofs. So, this is what the applicant is proposing from an architectural standpoint. This kind of gives you a feel from the pedestrian level, looking at some of the retail, which will consist of one-story buildings. So, you can kind of get a feel of the colors and everything that's proposed as part of the retail. This sort of is a perspective sort of drawing if you were entering off of West Sunrise Boulevard at the eastern portion of the property, where it's divided sort of, and there's like a slight kind of circle or roundabout there. This is kind of as you enter that roundabout, this kind of gives you a perspective. This would be the large eight-story building here with some of the retail, and then you'd have the three-story kind of garden apartment-type units, and then further to the rear would be the two-story units, which are the townhomes here. So, this is a kind of rendering of what the townhome units would look like. And, again, as you just asked about, Ms. Berger, you would transition from here to the canal to the single-family homes in Sunrise. So, I know this is a rendering, but will there be a large fence by preventing the canal from the play areas? I think there is a fence proposed in the rear. Is that correct? Thank you. Okay. Okay. And this will show some of the building materials and finishes that are proposed. The limestone, there's a wood look, aluminum that's proposed, painted stucco, reveals, and light beige and natural warm colors. So, this kind of gives you a breakdown of the proposed building materials. Again, one of the things that was considered that we did kind of talk about was compatibility in the context. So, you have the larger building that's located along Sunrise Boulevard. And kind of as you move back, you go to the three-story buildings and then to the two-story buildings. And then you would kind of transition as you see the one-story single-family neighborhood located within the city of Sunrise. So, that's kind of what this is kind of showing here as you kind of drop down as you move north on the site for improved compatibility with the surrounding uses. And this just sort of gives you a feel for the two different buildings that are massing and articulation as proposed as part of those buildings. So, there was a traffic study completed and some of the traffic recommendations. Just to give you a breakdown, the development is expected to produce 3,102 vehicle trips per day with 202 trips occurring during the a.m. peak hour and 280 trips occurring during the p.m. peak hour. So, this is a breakdown. So, this is a breakdown. There are, based upon the existing development, there would be some trips that would also be kind of associated with that development. We're still there. But we're just showing kind of what the new development will create and sort of giving you, again, the a.m. peak hour trips and the p.m. peak hour trips that you could expect to occur within that hour span. Some of the recommendations that the engineering department is asking for is that once the 8601 Boulevard project is completely occupied, the development team contacted Briar County Traffic Engineering Division to request signal timing of 8 traffic signals that were kind of identified as possibly being impacted from the study. Those would be signals at Cleary in Pine Island, Cleary in University Drive, Sunrise in Pine Island, Sunrise in 85th, Sunrise in University, Sunrise in 70th, Sunrise in 16th, and the Sunset Strip in North University Drive. And this sort of shows you the locations of each of those lights. And this would be the proposed development here that you see in blue. So you can kind of see the signals that would be proposed. Some other traffic study recommendations. A primary project driveway, as indicated, is expected to operate within acceptable parameters during a.m. and p.m. peak hours in future build-out year 2026. But as part of an abundance of caution is recommended that a signal warrant analysis be conducted in accordance with the criteria specified within the current edition of the MUTCD manual. At the Eastern Project driveway, 18601 West Sunrise Boulevard is complete and occupied. And I do have the engineering director and the project traffic engineer here. So if you have some additional questions, I will refer to the experts on the traffic there. Some other recommendations prior to application for building permit. With the local government in Broward County, an applicant must obtain a transportation concurrency satisfaction certificate from Broward County. The transportation concurrency assessment is calculated as a total peak hour trip generation of a proposed development multiplied by a constant dollar figure for each district. Plantation is within the central district that represents the cost per trip of all transit development plans, enhancements in that district. And so the revenues from transportation concurrency assessments are used to fund transit enhancements in that particular district. And again, I will have the engineering director address any of those questions that you may have regarding that. City Plantation also recently adopted a multimodal transportation plan. 18601 development is identified to be within a one mile of University Drive and Sunrise Boulevard. Therefore, the city is requesting this development to contribute to the identified improvements within this corridor or any local roadway improvements. So prior to the issuance of a building permit, the staff is requesting and the applicant has agreed to traffic improvement, cost sharing in the amount of $206,571. Parking analysis provided that 833 parking spaces proposed to be located on site will accommodate the expected peak usage. Applicants are requesting to reduce parking by 409 spaces, as indicated, so the applicant shall provide an approved waiver prior to the issuance of a building permit, which is one of the things that they're applying for as part of this agenda tonight. According to the current site plan, bicycle parking accommodating 76 bikes will be provided within the on-site garage. And bus stop improvements, including a 40-foot by 8-foot ADA bus boarding area adjacent to the edge of the existing sidewalk and relocation of the bench and trash can also be proposed. And then finally, in addition, 223 EV capable charging stations are proposed with four of them installed with the current site plan. Now, with regard to the waivers, yes, you had a question? Is there going to be a bus stop for public transportation there? Yes. So the bus, there is an existing bus stop, but improvements will be made to that to ensure it is ADA compatible. I'm going to go back and just show you. So this is the development here, Sunrise Boulevard. There is a bus stop located kind of in front of the pond or the retention area there. I know there is a bus stop on the Governor West on the same side of the road. For a bus stop to be put there with the traffic flow on Sunrise Boulevard, would they have an extra lane so the bus could pull in? Or is it going to stop and traffic is going to be held up to University Drive? I'm not sure. I know that the transit, Broad County Transit, will determine whether they let those. I can tell you. And I don't know. They may be back to using those lanes. At one point, they stopped using them because they were complaining that people wouldn't let them back in. And it kind of, you know, was tough for them to maneuver their way back in. I'm not sure. I don't know if anyone here can answer that question in terms of what the current policy is with regard to the bus. But it is a pull in. No. It's not now. Not at this location. There is no pull in. Actually, coincidentally, the city have a meeting with Broad County Transit tomorrow. So I will be more than happy to ask that question and give you more information as we get along. Okay. So variances. As we indicated, there are some variances associated with the site. With regard to the zoning variances, the first one kind of deals with lot coverage and floor area ratio. So with regard to the eight-story building, which is located here, building B1, that building will require a 21% maximum lot coverage. And there's a three-story buildings, B2 through B6, that you kind of see located here, will require a 30% maximum lot coverage. The applicant is proposing for the eight-story to provide a 39% maximum lot coverage and for the three-story, a 47.14 maximum lot coverage. And then with regard to the floor area ratio, the eight-story building requires a 1.18 maximum floor. They're proposing a 2.35 for the two-story buildings, seven and eight, a 0.6 maximum floor is required. There's slightly, very slight deviation, 0.62 maximum floor. And then for the one-story, which is 0.3, again, very, very slight deviation of 0.31 maximum floor area ratio. In terms of zoning waiver number two, which deals with the building height. Our building height is required at 1.5 times the height of either the property line or the adjacent roadway. And so this, based upon the height of the building here, it would be required to have a 135-foot setback. From the roadway there, requiring a 40-foot setback, 40.5-foot setback. And then from the side here, a 58-foot setback. Again, as we indicated, there's a parking waiver. The required parking would be 1,242. They're requesting to provide 833 spaces. Zoning waiver number four, which deals with drive-out width. So within the parking garage, the required drive-out width is 25 feet. And they're requesting to provide a 24-foot drive-out width for the structure parking garage, which is located in building B1. Zoning waiver number five requires, based upon our code, 11 off-street loading zones for the proposed development. The applicant is requesting to provide a total of three dedicated loading zones. There's one loading zone that you see here for this building. And then there's two loading zones, which would sort of serve several of the buildings that you see located here, the retail and both the residential as well. Staff has sort of looked around. We've kind of seen that there are some different, I guess, smart loading zone applications and things out there. So we've requested that the applicant kind of look into that to help facilitate the use of the loading zones. And then waiver number six deals with the height of the building. So pursuant to section 2792A5B, which requires a height of all buildings containing residential uses, which are located outside the Plantation Midtown, or what we used to call within our code, the Central Plantation District, shall not exceed five stories with the maximum height of 65 feet. The applicant is requesting to allow the one building, the B1 building, to be eight stories at approximately 90 feet in height. And this is the building in question here. It's sort of been designed to sort of minimize the height, so it kind of gives you a different feel. And then there are two landscape waivers. The first landscape waiver sort of deals with the landscape pedestrian zones as it relates to the location of the zones, the width of the zones, and the tree size. So they're requesting to allow for a reduction in the LPZ length for mixed-use building, this building here, the residential buildings, seven and eight, which are these buildings, and the retail buildings two and three that you see located here. And you can kind of see located here, these are all the locations of the LPZs in question. They're also requesting to allow less than one shade tree for every 30 lineal feet of the landscape pedestrian zone, so that sort of deals with the amount of trees installed within the LPZ, and to allow reduction in the size of the trees in the LPZ, too, because once you kind of decrease the size of the LPZ, then you kind of have to consider the size of the landscape as well. Landscape pedestrian zone, landscape waiver number two, requires all properties to comply with the buffer yard requirement, provided in Table 255-1 of the code. And here they're requesting to allow for a reduction of the east perimeter buffer from 10 feet to 6 feet. These are the two in question here, the two areas in question here. And to allow for a reduction of the south perimeter buffer from 20 feet to 16 feet. So it's just kind of, it's just a small, small areas that you see here, where the buffer, all the other buffer areas are in compliance. Staff did identify, I'm going to ask the landscape architect to kind of come up, that there were a couple of, as we look through the landscape plan, there are a couple of waivers that would still sort of be needed that were not applied for, based upon the current site plan. So there would have to be either some modification of the site plan, or they would at some point have to come in and apply for these waivers. So I'll just kind of go over those waivers with that. For the record, you know the Brown Environmental Landscape Silverizer. So first waiver, not applied for, regarding landscape islands. So the interior islands should be 12 feet inside of curb to inside of curb. The deficient islands are 7 foot, 7 inches to 8 foot within the site. So this diagram delineates all those islands within the site. The next waiver is minimum landscape. I'm sorry, go ahead. Go back one, if you could. So what you're saying is every one of those are planned at 7, 7 to 8? One in particular is 7 feet, 7 inches, the other others are 8, that are circles. Okay, so, and what you're saying is code requires 12 in each one of those? Yes, sir. Okay, that's a 4 foot difference. So it's like losing 16 linear feet each set of? Correct. Okay, cool. Thank you. Okay. Any more questions on that one? Okay. The next one is we have a minimum landscape requirement of 5 feet. So two areas were deficient. West of Tower 1, which is the top render in here, you can see where it's delineated, 4 feet, 2 inches. And then adjacent to the pool in the rear, 4 feet, 5 inches. This is acceptable with suspended pavement systems. The applicant did identify in their response narrative that they were proposing suspended pavement, but it wasn't called out in the landscape plans. So for that reason, the waiver is here in the unidentified waivers. These are the areas that were previously shown adjacent to the tower here, 4.2 and 4.5 adjacent to the tower. The third waiver, unaccounted for, was root vaults. So we implemented root vault standards. The applicant did delineate root vaults, but it was deficient to the cubic volume required. They delineated the root vaults at the same contour of the parking curb, which defeats the purpose. We want to go beyond so we can have more soil volume for establishment of the trees. To match the first code that I mentioned. So if the root vaults were delineated beyond that carving, beneath the adjacent hardscape, the trees then have more soil volume to establish. And I did use the same render to show you the same islands that are affected. Is that just a rendering issue, or is it not in their plans? It's not in their plans. It's deficient. Okay, thank you. Yes. Usually there's a detail associated with root vaults that has a cubic volume. Thank you. Mr. Brian, I want to ask you a question. Behind the tower rooms that are on the canal, will each of these tower rooms have a backyard, or is there just going to be grass-spec things? Is there going to be anything to protect the children out of the middle of these tower rooms from falling into the lovely canal? Vegetation-wise, there was none proposed beyond the trees. So there's trees behind the townhomes? Correct. There's a buffer area. And then the 10 feet or something like that from the bank of the canal, the easement, is that going to be maintained by the property, or is that the city, or what? Which, the... So you have the townhouses, but you have the townhouses, and you have trees. Right. Right piece of trees going north, you have the canal. So there's a 10-foot easement between the bank of the canal and the trees. Who's going to maintain the easement? Is it the city, or what? So maintenance is responsible, is the drainage district would have the responsibility to maintain the, you know... The town for the easement? Right, their easement for the drainage district. And then wherever the property line is, inward from there, would be the responsibility of the property owner. Okay, thank you. And I think that that is it. That's the conclusion of the presentation, and staff would recommend approval. So, you know, it's quite a bit, but thank you for staying with us. The applicant is here, and I'm here, and we also have other members of staff if you have additional questions. All right. I think we should let applicants speak, and then we will go with questions. Hey, Mr. Chair, members of the board, my name is Bill Laestrom, 1177 Southeast 3rd Avenue, Fort Lauderdale, Florida. I'm here on behalf of the applicant tonight. I'm very excited about bringing you the Plantation City Center Project, which is a combined project of BH Group and Related Group. I'm going to have done projects all over the city, as a matter of fact, because I've done at least one, two for Related. And I know they're throughout all of, quite frankly, the United States. And in a minute, I'm going to introduce the principals just so you get to meet them and feel free to ask them any questions about their desire and why they picked this site. But as kind of a background, this site was originally an AT&T training facility, about 130, 135,000 square feet. In fact, when I first went to the site, it actually had the poles in the back where you practiced using the harness to go up to the top. I did not try that, but it was there. And this entire corridor is kind of a new area for the city to be looking at redevelopment. Typically, we've been focused on the Midtown area, and I think we've done a really good job of building out the Midtown. Now, the reason it was Midtown years ago was simply because it was a taxing district, and quite frankly, the city did not want to bring the taxing district north past Cleary, because that would have then brought in Lauderdale West and Park Village and some of the other residential into a taxing district. But originally, this was all part of what called the Central Plantation Business District back in the day. And that district basically ran all the way from 595 to the city limits, which is the canal, immediately to the north of this site. So this area has been redeveloping hard and fast. Past projects recently, we just got done redoing the Jacaranda Plaza, which is on University Drive at Sunrise Boulevard on the northwest corner. We also are in the process of remodeling the shopping center. I call it the Japan Inn shopping center because that's where my kids like to go for their birthdays. But we're remodeling that shopping center. We also have, as most of the members have heard, the project for Marcos Puente and MMG, which is the Bank of America redevelopment in this area. It's an exciting area. We've got the office building at 1776, just got some approvals to increase their ability to accept medical uses. And so we're excited to be a part of this new area for redevelopment. And when Lauderdale took a look at it, they said, well, this is a clean site because you're going to get rid of the 130,000 square foot building. I mean, it's not just old, it's very, very old and so old so that you'll see in the staff reports. I might as well just address it for a quick second. There's a required 40-year inspection for buildings that are that old. Obviously, this building is closed and shuttered, and we're going to be asking the city simply to delay that enforcement until we knock it down. And we have pulled the demolition permit already for that project. So going back to the site itself, what makes it especially exciting is it has direct access onto Sunrise Boulevard. There is a transit corridor directly on Sunrise for east and west. But there are also multiple transit corridors on Pine Island going to the main bus station just to the south, as well as the corridor for University Drive. The county has lots of plans to improve transportation in this area as well, so we're excited to consider adding an affordable housing component to that. Obviously, one of the advantages, we do get a bonus density, which under the county's plan, you don't have to have a land use amendment to allow the use of those flex units. So we do put that into our project and kind of incorporate it in. And then I want to talk a little bit about staff's recommendations so we can get most of them out of the way, which are we agree with them all. Well, some of them didn't say that we had agreed, so I want to make sure, like, the list of uses that we weren't going to use, pick that off the table. That's fine with us. We get the report kind of like you do on Friday, so that was our first chance to take a look at it. And the same thing with N Delays 3 comments, we'll certainly address those. And we can talk about them tonight, but we'll certainly address the sizing of the root vaults. And, I mean, that's just a diagram error on our part. So going back to the site, it's got great access, right in, right out, left in, left out. You do see that there's a side entrance. Let's take one. I'll keep going right here. So at the, I call it the southeast corner, you'll see a little bit of a curve off into the neighboring property. We have an easement with Pyreland Commons. I've met with both Barry Lethbridge, who's the manager of that property, as well as the president of the association. We continue to talk with them. They look at each site plan that we come through with, and we continue to make revisions. One of the revisions that you see was, turned out to be a waiver, was they wanted us to reduce the island that's up against Sunrise Boulevard because it actually blocks your view as you're turning into their property a little bit. So we're going to bring it down, we're not going to reduce the amount of landscaping, but we're going to bring it down a little bit and soften, what I call soften the radius of that curve to go into Pyreland Commons. Also, over the course of years with this project, I've had the opportunity to communicate with the city of Sunrise and the residents that are immediately north of our project. We provide a copy of our site plan to Shannon Lay, the city planner, and Sunrise, and Mark Lebelsky, the city manager, each time we resubmit, and when we resubmit to city council, we'll provide them with that site plan as well. This was considered for a previous site plan approval. We met with those residents, I did a couple of virtual meetings, et cetera, and they're going to like this plan even more because in the prior plan we had an office building and a garage toward the back as part of the idea of having some office use on the site. And now we have the townhouses that will be for sale product. I know you haven't seen that in the staff report, but it is going to be for sale product, and we're very excited about it. I anticipate, I know it was a small question, but we will have a fence completely around both the kids' play area as well as the dog park. And usually with the townhomes, they'll each have their own fenced-in backyard. That's typically the way it is. They'll be responsible for their little area. But any place that is outside of the little property lines will be the responsibility of the entire project for maintenance, whether you're talking about the lake at the front or any of the amenities within the project because they can all be used by everybody within the site. Everybody will have a different payment. Retail will pay for certain things. They won't probably pay for the pools. But we'll have an association, a master association, to take care of all of those maintenance requirements. With regard to traffic, you saw that there were a number of requirements for us as part of our traffic study, which we did. Staff has actually reviewed it as well as their outside consultants, so I want it to always be our plan. We agree with their recommendations. We were happy to pay. I kind of want to say happy. Sometimes it's a lot easier to have somebody else put together the list of what is needed on University Drive and Sunrise Boulevard. And the city did that through its multimodal transportation plan. And then basically they assessed us a share of the costs to put those improvements in, which we're more than happy to do. We are improving the bus stop on University Drive. It's one of the old, I call it the old-style ones. It's probably not even ADA compliant today. We will expand the sidewalk access to that to eight feet. I will say that the Broward County currently has seven feet for the sidewalk running along Sunrise Boulevard. We have, in our site, eight-foot sidewalks running all the way in to, through the retail area, basically back to the, I call it the first crossroad. Keep going in. Yeah, that's tracing it, but all the way in to where the fountain area would be. So go in the main entrance and come all the way to the green area. So we're putting in eight-foot sidewalks within the site that will allow everybody to access the lake area. We look at that as an amenity. We're going to have our retail out on there. The staff had a great idea to cantilever over with some additional seating. We just need to make sure we can incorporate that in without impacting drainage because the posts probably take away some amount of drainage. She's, Samira's looking at me going, yes. But we thought that, we thought that was an excellent idea. And typically, you'll include the staff comments as part of whatever action you may take tonight. That's fine with us because we think it'll be a nice addition. The retail areas, we do not have specific tenants as of yet. A project like this is probably four years away. They're having a heart attack over there, but four years away of actually opening. You did see that we divided into three phases. We may not build them in phases in the sense that you normally think, which is you build one phase and then you stop. And then they may all start together. But at some point, we have to number them so they went one, two, three. But I do anticipate with number one, we'll go first because it includes all the entrance features. And more importantly, it includes all the utility requirements that we're going to have. I'm anticipating that this project will be in the neighborhood of $1.5 to $1.8 million just in off-site utility improvements. In addition, we have the traffic improvements that you indicated. And I think we owe, in the way, like half our life. I'm just kidding. But on tree mitigation, because this is, if you remember this site, if you've been past it, it's basically a huge parking lot with a huge building on it. But those parking lot trees count like every other tree. And so you have to mitigate them when you're putting your project in place. I do want to talk briefly about the architecture, but I'm going to let the architect for the project kind of walk through it. Next slide. Next. Yeah, there we go. So something that I thought was intriguing, because the first time I did it, I kept recounting, because it looks like there's four stories. And that is exactly what the architects intended to do, is attempt, particularly on the eight-store building, to bring that building down by visually. So if you look at it, it looks like there's the retail component down on the first floor. And basically on the second, third, and fourth are the residential, although there are multiple floors within each of those sections. So I thought that was an interesting way to do it the first time I had seen that done. Again, we're excited about the retail component as well. We think this creates that opportunity. We're going to have vertical as well as horizontal mixed use, because a portion of the commercial is within the building. And all the parking will be in the parking garage for the commercial that's adjacent to the lake and under the building. And the balance of the parking will be over next to the easternmost retail. So we should be fine on that. We've looked very carefully at the parking. URI, which is the Urban Land Institute, does studies on parking all the time. Can we actually exceed their requirements? I have Suzanne Danielson, our traffic and parking expert here, for any questions you may have, either regarding the traffic or the parking and why we think the waiver is justified. And I can assure you that the Ray group and BH group are not going to under-park. The idea is to create something that maximizes the available parking without having too much of that parking. I'm going to let the architect speak before I take everything from her. I probably already have. But I'd like to just kind of walk through kind of the entrance to the site and why we think this concept with the larger building up front and then the smaller buildings in the rear create that village sense. Thank you. And when you come up, it is your turn. Name, address. And in this case, since we're not a quasi-digital item, we haven't been sworn. Hi, good evening. My name is Sherry Gutierrez with Architectonica, address 2900 Oak Avenue, Miami, Florida. Thank you for having us here this evening. I feel like a lot of my thunder has already been stolen already. Your planning department did an excellent job. So kudos and thank you for that. It makes us a whole lot easier. So I'll just go through in the interest of time and try to point out and highlight some big-picture items and big-picture issues so that you kind of understand where we're coming from as we go through the project. Would you mind going back just to the site plan? Thank you. There we go. So as everyone has kind of mentioned, right, the site is a little bit landlocked. We have, you know, two canals to our north, to our west. They're an existing adjacent property. So everything that feeds the site is being done off of Sunrise Boulevard. So as we mentioned, there's two ingressing new west points, right, one further to the east and one further to the west. But one further to the east, we've really taken a lot of time to address how that feels. It's the main entrance to the project. So we've created what I'll call sort of a grand boulevard approach, right? It's, oh, that would be great. Thank you. Thank you so much. Ha, ha, ha. So here you see this grand entrance, right? It's flames on both sides with retail. Everything you see here, by the way, in pink is retail. And we've done that deliberately to really activate and animate the street, right? The whole idea of this project is to create a village, a community, active lifestyle. So we feel that having the active uses closest to the street really draws your attention in, and you kind of want to know more about what's happening. So as you approach, you're flanked on both sides by retail, and you come and you arrive at this central point here. And it's really a pivotal moment. You arrive at, it's a large landscape plaza feature, great for an art sculpture or what have you. But this is also the point at which you spring off to go to what I'll call sort of your neighborhood or your district, right? And as described earlier, there's three of them, and I'll sort of differentiate them by height. You've got your mid-rise area here. You've got your low-rise area here. And you have your townhomes here flanking the north side and the canal. So from this point, as a resident, you sort of travel to your home, right? So this is part of your process on a day-to-day basis. But intentionally speaking, we also put the mass or the density here on the activist southwest corner to really take advantage of the buffer that we have here from the canal and obviously the street. And it really does create movement as you see the view from sunrise. And then intentionally we step down here with the, you know, more low-rise buildings and then again to the townhomes on the north, and similarly as we head to the west, again taking into account the sensitivity for our neighbors on all sides. Next. I guess I can't flip from here, right? Yeah, right. That would be great. Thank you. So as Bill already pointed out, we do a lot of trickery, right? But this is a view from sunrise, and it really does help to break down the mass to have this appears three vertically stacked volumes over this retail and amenity space. So as at either pedestrian level or even, ooh, it did flip, sorry, or vehicular level, there's a consistency in the vernacular at that background plane, right? There's a series of limestone arches. There's a height limitation. There's movement in the facade. It's not just planar. It comes in and out. So as you sort of meander through the project, that's a constant. And then there's a playfulness, too, in these grids, and they shift sort of back and forth to trick the eye again, and it kind of makes the appearance that some of the spaces behind this grid in this frame maybe much larger than they really are versus having, you know, three levels stacked in this box. It might seem to do something different. I think. So this is the view of the retail, you know, one of the retail areas that flank the entry drive. So again, you see with the articulation of the parapets here really trying to identify each individual space and giving some movement both at the, I'll say, sort of architectural level or the facade level, but as well as a pedestrian, as you move along, you see sort of these series of different awnings and different materials and different shop fronts that really animate the area as you pass by. And then to the townhomes in the rear looking through, yes, there will be fences here. No children are going out and no alligators are coming in, I promise. But what we've done here is created these mirrored sloped roofs to again create a little bit of identity to each individual townhome, but also to sort of mimic maybe in a more modern sense sort of, you know, the pitched roof of an existing single-family home. And there's a little, you know, homage to, you know, what would be exterior plantation shutters and those sorts of things. So through the materiality, we're sort of giving a little bit more of a modern vibe with these townhomes that flank the northern edge. And then in the aerial sense, you really get the feeling of what we've been describing with sort of the differentiation of these districts, right? So you've got your mid-rise district, your low-rise district, your townhomes, and then this retail promenade and this street. And it really gives you a sense of how open and low it is as you face summaries and as you're walking into the site. You know, there's very low obstruction here, and obviously we're taking advantage of this lake here and we're using some of that to wrap our mid-rise project around. And then this is that termination of the access road here. Oh, I did it again. With, you know, potentially a sculptural piece, a Fallon piece. I don't know, you know, we have the ability to do something here and really create a moment as residents are using this to circulate to their homes. And what you see here in the background a little bit is that low-rise component. And each building, if you will, the whole low-rise component is separated into a series of what I'll call, like, little villages. So it really creates the ambiance of having your own defined building or home rather than just appearing to be part of sort of one overall area. They're relatively unique. And I'm just going to blow through this really quick to identify two things. The garage, which houses a good majority of the parking, located on the west side of the site, is proposed to have a green screen mesh on it. So it sort of softens the look of that garage. It still allows us to naturally ventilate the garage. So we're still being energy conscious, let's say. And you see here just a little bit more of the playfulness of that grid and really how it breaks down the volume of that building. So I just wanted to sort of highlight that and then just give you a little bit more of the view of the low-rise residential where you can really see the distinction of each of these individual cubes that are wrapped in these limestone frames. And it really gives a sense of individuality. You know, they're connected and they're covered, but you've got a lot of light and air between these buildings. And it just makes it feel more like a village, if you will. We have a material board here on the easel if anybody's interested. at any point in time. And I think anything else I would say would be duplicative. So I thank you very much for your attention. And if you'd like to talk later about who's going to be our quarterback, I'm happy to do that too. Good night. My question is which team? Well, Dolphins, my nose, Gators, we're all looking for quarterbacks right now. So very quickly I wanted to address a couple of quick items. The first one is with regard to kind of why is this good for the city? Well, in addition to the development, the need for housing, I mean there's an article in the paper every week now about the need for housing and the need for affordable housing and the need for a lot more housing than even we're going to be providing here. But the one thing that is always constant is if you have supply, the price may not be less, but it's not going up. If you reduce supply, at the end of the day you end up with more restaurants where 20% of the tables have no waiters. And at least for me, I see that rarely. Our police, our fire, they all need a place to live. And quite frankly, they need to live in plantation. And so this is an opportunity to address that, provide for some affordable housing. Is it enough? No, it's never enough. But it's an attempt to do a little bit here, a little bit on every project as it comes through, and hopefully at the end of the day we'll make it done and at least continue to try to control the rent spiral that's been around. It's starting to ease up a little bit now, but I think we still have a long way to go to be able to provide reasonable housing for the entry-level teachers, firefighters, I use those, but it's everybody. And so we'd like to think that we've done our share here. What we do do is we get a small bonus for units. That's the trade-off for it that helps try to cover the cost of it, because otherwise what typically happens is, okay, well, if I take 10% and I've got to reduce the rents down to a certain amount, I'm going to have to raise the other rents up here, and now I haven't provided supply at a more reasonable rate. And in this particular area of the city, probably you'll see the rents be a little bit less than what we might find right next to the I-595 on Midtown. The second thing I want to talk about is just kind of tax revenues. My son did this for me a while ago for a different project, but it bears looking out. So I'm going to have Suzanne hand out this. She's going, oh, gosh, what's he going to make me do? I don't know anything about taxes. Yeah. So what he did is he took my neighborhood, which is a cul-de-sac over in Plantation Harbor, and he took all the homes, looked at the taxes that are generated by all the homes on this street, which happened to be about five acres, and then he compared it to the tax bill for the Amley project, which is also on five acres by random chance. And as you recall, typically what happens on these projects is if you are in a residence, you may have a taxable assessed value of $900,000, but you're actually paying tax on about a third of it. So as you'll see, the total tax bill for all of those properties on 15th Street was $89,000, plus or minus, and the tax bill for Amley is $1.9 million. These are tax generators that will allow you to do all the things that you talk about, whether it's more for affordable housing, whether it's more for police and fire, whether it's subsidies so that the police and fire and teachers can get housing. That's up to the city to decide because those are the general revenues. That doesn't count the $1.5 million, $1.7 million worth of utilities and the roads and the impact fees that we'll pay to the county along the way. But I thought this was just an interesting way when you look at single-family homes because plantation is 90% single-family homes. It still is. The density in Midtown is really about 5.9 units per acre, I think, was the last calculation we did. And so you're not talking about a specific area where you've picked to try to do this redevelopment, and it's a perfect opportunity. There aren't a ton of properties nearby, so you're not going to get a situation, I believe, where you're going to have seven of these projects because there isn't 14 acres there except for Jacaranda Plaza, and I represent them, and then we just rebuilt it. So that's not coming forward any time soon. And so I'm proud to bring this project forward. I think it's a good match. We did listen to the comments that we'd heard long ago, and we tried to bring in the townhouse component with single-family. We brought the building. The building was originally a 10-stories. And, look, we could take all the units and spread them out and all of a sudden raise the other buildings up and end up – and then it all looked exactly the same. And I don't think that's what we're looking for here. I think we're looking for something that's unique. And then the last part is, you know, kind of communication with our neighbors. The staff had given you the picture of the area where everybody got notice. But I wanted to talk about we went out and did door-to-door. We went to all the businesses, to the west of us, to the south of us, to the east of us, except for Parliament Commons where I met with them directly, and that was only because they have no soliciting sign, so we didn't want to interrupt it. And I want to bring up Kathy Koch who was in charge of that and actually did the door-knocking. We've got a little presentation package for you, and I'd like her just very quickly to kind of go through what she did, kind of the general comments that she received from everybody. And it was very interesting how many positive comments and positive reactions that we got from neighbors on all sides of our project. And, again, remember, the actual neighbors to us on the west are Camaro and then the back end of some older commercial properties. To the north is a large canal. It's a major canal for old plantation water-controlled district. And then on the east is Planoly Commons. And on the south, we have a 200-foot runway for Sunrise Boulevard. So those are our direct neighbors, but these are our neighbors up and down the street. And we thought we'd just give you an idea. We're back at everybody's door, and we didn't get everybody. But I know Kathy's been working on this for about a month. So, Kathy, if you would, just briefly introduce yourself, name, address, and then just kind of go through what's in the packet. Hi, everyone. I'm Kathy Koch. I live at 600 Southwest. I saw the Spill Line in Fort Lauderdale. When I was first contacted by BH Group and a related group to assist in a community outreach for this project, I was pretty excited because I knew of both of them, how well-respected they were, how they had done partnerships on other properties. And then Architect Tonica, of course, has been designing a extraordinary building for decades. When I received the renderings, it was a bigger thing. They were breathtaking. You've seen them. They're thoughtful. They're human. They're exciting. They really seem to represent the future. So about a month ago, I started speaking with the neighbors in the surrounding project around Plantation City Center. I did walk door to door, describing Plantation City Center to every person that I met with. I showed them the flyer, which is in the back of the packet that you just received, describing what was going to be built, when the amenities, what was on the ground floor retail, when all of this might take place. And then I told them about the joint venture partners, the architect, and then I asked them for their comments or their questions. What did they have to say about the project? They were all, mostly, all really positive comments, but the one response that meant something to me is if they said that Plantation City Center was either going to make the community better or make their business better. And if they said that, I asked them if they would be comfortable signing a form that showed their support, and that's what you've got in front of you. So those are the copies of the support forms from business owners, from local managers, and from residents whose homes are located north of the canal in Sunrise. And the flyer, as I said, is tucked right in the back. So first, I met with the businesses that are immediately west of the project on Pine Island Road. A lot of those were family businesses. Many of them had their kids there with them, and they absolutely lit up at the prospect of having new residences living in luxury apartments who would be living within walking distance of their businesses. There was a couple from South America whose son got in the work visa and encouraged his parents to move here, and they did. They moved here. They've opened up a dry cleaner as they purchased the business in Plantation, and after one year, business is going well, and they're selling their property now in South America so that they can finalize their commitment to stay here. And one of the owners called me yesterday because she had planned to come speak tonight, but she's flying back to South America to finish that work, and she just wanted to let you know that she and her husband will support this project. They're excited. They think it will be a positive addition to the community and it will help their family business. After that, I moved across Pine Island to Jacaranda Square and met every business owner, every restaurant, and got the feeling from them that they felt that Plantation City Center would be very good for their business, but also for Jacaranda Square where there are a lot of vacant spaces. They felt that it would help attract businesses to there and help build up their own businesses. They also asked me if Plantation City Center was going to be like Plantation Walk because many of them have seen Plantation Walk and they like the combination of the shops and the retail and the restaurants and the apartments all together and that sense of excitement, and they were wondering is that what's going to be close to them. And I said, yes, a little bit of a smaller version, but yes, that's what's going to be close to you. Then I traveled near the west on Sunrise Boulevard past the assisted living facility, more offices, more retail, and really every business was a supporter because from a business perspective, what is there not to like about what's being proposed for them? The businesses that were closer to university at Plantation Square had noted that there was a new residential development built south of them and it had made a difference to their business with those new residents where people were coming into their shops and into their restaurants and they felt that Plantation City Center would do the same thing. So then moving back west on the north side of Sunrise, I went through Jacaranda Plaza. Again, I was greeted enthusiastically by all businesses. There are more national chains than there are, so you won't see too many forms from them because they're not permitted to sign them on behalf of the company, but several of them said to tell you that they really support the project. There was a lot of excitement at the prospect of young professionals and families moving into the neighborhood and a great anticipation of luxury residents being part of this community. There didn't seem to be a lot of concern from the retailers that it would be competitive to them. There was a little question about some of the restaurants, but mostly they know that the type of retail that's going to be at Plantation City Center isn't the type of retail that's at the shopping centers. Last, I met with a single family of homeowners located in Sunrise, just north of the canal. That's been a discussion. We wanted to understand how the development would impact them. There are just about 10 homes that are right on the other side of that canal, and I was only able, only four people were home the day that I walked through. I supported the project. One didn't want to sign anything. But it was interesting because one of the gentlemen said, I'm really private, and I don't know how I feel about all of this stuff happening across the canal for me. So he looked at the site plan, and he saw that the townhouses were what was facing him. And he saw that the tall building and the retail was at sunrise. And his response was a good one. He noted that the design was thoughtful. He appreciated the thoughtfulness of the design, and he provided his written support. All of the people with whom I spoke, there was one person who did think that traffic might be a problem. She was the wife of an attorney who was concerned about the potential increase of traffic on Sunrise Boulevard. But a common thread that I felt through all of my conversations was one that businesses in this part of plantation love their city, and they love having their business here in the city. There was a tremendous amount of pride in the people that I spoke with and excitement about the potential of a new project. They feel that it's time for something new to arrive, something that has a vibe, something that has a sense of excitement, something that would generate people not just from within but from outside plantation to live, to have dinner, to visit the shops, to have the boutiques, and kind of create a buzz that they feel is needed now. But it was my pleasure to meet with them. They were some just terrific people. Got to know many of your business owners, and just know that they do care about their business, and they really care about plantation. Thank you. Thank you. Anything else from the applicant? We're wrapping up, I promise. I did promise that I'd bring forward to bring the owners to you. I'm just going to have J.P. Perez from Related speak very briefly. He and I had the opportunity to work on an earlier project in Plantation up near Veranda, and he just wanted to basically introduce himself and make sure that you had an opportunity to ask ownership any questions, whether you have financial questions or something else about the site that maybe we haven't covered. And obviously my entire team is available to answer any questions you may have. I did want to address one item, and that is we're certainly happy to make a correction. The only waiver that I thought if it's not asked for, it's because it wasn't in, for my perspective, it wasn't in the prior staff report, so we only saw it Friday. We're happy to adjust the root vaults. I'm sure Indela actually knows that, and we'll simply expand those root vaults to be, rather than the size of the island, the size that the vault needs to be. And that should resolve at least the issue with the root vaults, which will then allow those trees, even though they're in a 7- to 8-foot corridor, to do well. And with that, J.P., just very quickly. Good evening. Thank you for having us here tonight. Actually, the first project I worked on when I came back and moved back from New York City. Can you state your name? Oh, sorry. John Paul Perez from Related Group, 2850 Tigertail Avenue, Coconut Grove, Florida. So I moved back from New York after being there five years after college, joined my father's business, which he started in 1979. And my first project that I worked on was the Mandarin Plantation, and that's actually where I met Bill. So that was my first foray into starting my real estate career here in South Florida. So I'm very proud to be back. It was a great experience. I couldn't be more excited to be doing a project like this. I think this is a transformational, mixed-use project that has beautiful architecture. It will be taking a site that today is an old vacant office building with really no activity and creating it into something special. And I think it was very important for us looking at the design and the surroundings where, you know, we're neighborhood developers. We like to be involved in neighborhoods. We like to listen to our neighbors and do what's right. And Architect Tonic has done a great job with the different heights of each building really so that it fits into our surroundings. So thanks again. I mean, they've covered everything, but we're thrilled to be here back in plantation and look forward to working with you all. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you. So no more comments from either staff or applicant, correct? Excellent. Any questions from the dais? Well, hold on. Max raised his hand first. He gets to go. Max. I'm a little faster than Vicki. My first thing is just a little housekeeping item. Because I saw this in the application that we got on Friday that you were applying for policy 216-3, and I thought it was a typo because 216-3 only applies in residential land use. 216-4. Yeah. So I just wanted to clarify that because I don't want you guys to submit that application to the county and get it bounced back for something small like that. Okay. The second is, I don't know if it's a question for you or for staff, but from my understanding of the breakdown of how you're getting to this unit count, you're using some flex units and some of the bonus density. And you're using more, from my understanding, more of the flex units than you need to because you're giving up on, like, 200 of the bonus units and making it up in flex. That is correct. But from the city's perspective, if we want to retain flex units, wouldn't it be better to get them to switch that around? It's the same unit count, the same ratio as everything, but... Yes, we've looked at that, and we would propose reducing the amount of flex because you don't need that number to achieve what they're doing. Right. It's like 200 bonus units at the end. That's correct. Okay. That's correct. Just wanted to make sure about that. Danny, could you do my favor and clarify the number of flex units that's being requested? Because one page of the report shows 367, another page shows 420. Oh, it's 420, right? Yeah, and the application's 420, but from my understanding, it could be 200. Right. Right. I just, but the point is, on page 5 of your packet, it says the applicant is requesting 367 units, and then a couple pages later, it says 420. So I just want to know which one it is. Yeah, I think it's 420, and that must be a typo. Let me see. So on page 5, last paragraph, just below the bold. Yeah, okay. Second sentence, right after the bolded. Yes, I see. Applicant is requesting assignment 367 flex. Yeah, that's incorrect. Okay. So it's 420 flex? Yeah, and as Mac said, based upon the allocation that they would get from utilizing the bonus density, we can reduce that flex allocation because they're getting six per flex. So they have more than they would need. So, yes. Right. So I hope that as the project moves forward, we just switch that number around. We'll reduce that and it won't change agility. Correct. My third question, and again, I don't know who this is for, for staff or the applicant, but the sidewalks on Sunrise Boulevard itself, currently I think they're 7 feet, and I saw in one of the pages of the site plan in the actual packet that we got online, I wish I had bent my laptop here because it wasn't detailed in the presentation, I saw a section that was adding 12 feet of right-of-way to the sidewalks of Sunrise. Is that part of the project or is it not? Are you retaining the 7 feet? So there are two different things, the right-of-way and the sidewalk. Sidewalk along Sunrise is currently 7 feet. They need, when they built their bus shelter, they built kind of like the fence problem, they built part of it on our property, so we're providing them with a dedication so they can get the full 12 feet for the bus shelter. That's my understanding. Okay. So the 12 feet was just for the bus shelter, not for me. Okay. And that actually relates to my other question, which is that bus shelter, it's a shelter. Because in the presentation you said that you're just moving the existing bench and Sun, it's going to be a shelter. It's a shelter, correct? No. No? It's not just a bench? All it is is... Oh, the county just asked us to do the bus pad. Okay. Because it's currently not... So I like this project, and I think it would be good for transit, because generally multifamily mixed use is good for transit and leads to higher bus ridership rates, and I would recommend that you guys try to work with BCT. I don't know if you can, like, loop into the existing contract situation with the bus shelters, but I really recommend putting a shelter there to really maximize the number of people riding the bus. I don't think we'd have an objection if you made that one of the recommendations of the board. Yeah. I personally would like to, if you guys are all okay with it. What do you mean shelter that's having the roof part of it, having the seats that are able to accommodate handicapped passengers? Yeah. So BCT uses the existing, I think they're called kaleidoscope shelters, the new black ones. So, of course, they don't have to be that, but to work with BCT to get a shelter in that bus stop. I think it's a good idea. Yeah. That's it for me. Thank you. Mr. Lasteron, this is the very first time that I read through the entire presentation. I have several questions. Why are the developers calling a plantation city center? I believe the city center is at Broward University. Couldn't it have come up like Plantation Wonderland or something like that? I mean, Plantation City Center is… I'll tell you two things. I mean, it's a little misleading. First off, it's the county center at Broward University. But having said that, the names for us are flexible. You know, we think that that was a good name. You know, we've created a website, but certainly if there was enough input to say you wanted to see a different name, we just… I thought it was kind of a nice little city center. I don't know. Okay. Okay. That's the first one. I'm just giving you my thoughts. Can you tell me where the closest building over six stories is to the location where the 8601 will be developed? I would guess it's Plantation Walk. Plantation Walk, which is, what, two miles? Cleary is nine city blocks away. Plantation Walk. No, it's more than that. Like 15. Because City Walk is 2nd Street. Right. Plantation Walk is… That's the 18th. It's got… The sharing unit is actually 10 stories high, but it has only nine stories because the first floor is a double floor. Okay. Because I did the approvals there, and then all the apartment projects there are all larger than eight stories. Okay. I just made all kinds of notes yesterday, so I may be flipping around. Okay. When was the traffic study done, the last traffic study? Suzanne? Suzanne, you have to come up here and do it at the microphone. The room right back there. Hello. Suzanne Danielson, 12743 Northwest 13th Court in Coral Springs. The last update was done June 4th, 2024. What was the date? What date of the week was that? Oh, you're talking about… That's the date of our study. When were the counts done? Well, yeah, I mean, traffic on a Sunday… I live right off Sunday's border, so every person that the other lady went to see, I really do go to those businesses. And when on a Sunday morning or Sunday afternoon, it's very quiet. But come 845 in the morning when people are trying to get to their 9 o'clock jobs, there's a ton of traffic. For a traffic study, we are required to study a Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday. We did quite a number of counts for this site, but our turning movement counts were done on a Tuesday, Wednesday, and a Thursday. During the peak periods, A&P covers 7 to 9, and an extended P&P, we typically do 4 to 6 for P&P. Your reviewer, the city's outside reviewer requests to extend that from 2 to 6. Okay, yeah, because there's no school on June 4th, so… June 4th is the date of our study. You know what I'm saying? But if you do it again… Yeah, you do it in other days. During school, yes. Okay, thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. Okay, Mr. Leistrom. Will the rooftop pool on the 8-story building be used for all residents? It's on the ground level. It's on the pool. Is there any floor anymore? Okay. And the pickleball, is that one quart, two quarts, half a dozen? Is that going to be open to people that don't live there? Because pickleball is the… Pickleball, there's no way you're not playing pickleball, but pickleball is a big thing. The answer is that it's not going to be open to the public. Either, typically the way we do it is either the facility itself has a fob system to get in that the residents would use the fob, or it'll be fenced off with hours of operation. How many quarts do we have? One quart. One quart, okay. Okay, on the high-rise building, there's parking on the ground floor along with rental units and with retail. Is that correct? Are there rental units on the first floor? No, there's no rental units on the first floor. I was misinformed. Okay. How will the parking be allowed each other? I'm sorry. One of the diagrams did look like there were three apartments on that first floor. They're what? They're townhomes. No, no, this is on the big building. The city is our ownership, so there are only 11 ownership townhomes on the far side? Well, no, because a total of 14 townhomes. It's 12 in it. So there's 12 on that strip. So only two of those are ownership. Vicki was asking, I guess, if there was residential on the first floor. So is there a residential on the first floor of the big building? Three units. I said that. Three. Okay. Cool. Is that a yes, sir, or is it residential? That's a yes. There's three on the first floor. Okay. So I've been to Plantation Walk in Parkingville. If you want to go to a restaurant with me and you want to go to a restaurant in Plantation City Center, how difficult is it going to be for somebody that drives over there to get a parking place? Is it only in the garage? Well, it depends on which retailer you're going to. Any other. Well, then the retail that comes in on the main entrance on the east side, they have parking around the entire building. For the commercial, they actually have interior access to the retail that's underneath, on the first floor of the eight-story building. So on the eight-story building, the first floor, there's retail, there's residential, and there's, that's what I'm going to say, there's retail stores and there's residential units, and I want to go to one of the retail stores. New restaurant, it's supposed to be fabulous, I'm going there. Where will I park? On the first floor of the garage. Okay. And how will the parking be allowed to the residents versus me who was going to drive there? Well, typically what we're doing is the first floor, sometimes the first and second floor. This is less commercial than maybe you would see at Plantation Walk. So we could probably have the first floor that would be open for retail customers during the day and residential at night. Well, if I'm going to your restaurant for dinner, that's night. If there's only three units that would be on the first floor, I'm going to go to the second, third, fourth, and I'm going to go to the garage because I'm going to have direct access to my floor. Okay. And my personal concern is about the height of the building. I just don't feel that the eight-story building is conducive to the area where they're mostly single-story homes, single-story retail, things like that. That's my personal opinion. Will there be 24-hour security? For which? For the entire project. I don't know that we've gotten that detailed in the management. I would assume that for the apartment building, there will be 24-hour security because there will be basically a lobby. I do not know. I would think that the townhomes would not have security, and then we'd probably have a living security throughout the project in the evening hours. So you're saying there's a lobby for the eight-story building, but the three-story buildings, which are also rental units don't have a lobby. They have little lobbies. Oh, I don't know. So we're going to have 24-hour maintenance crew. I mean, are people going to be... We always have 24-hour maintenance. Okay. And what do you think this is going to do for the traffic on Sunrise Boulevard? You know, you know, I've discussed this for years already. So there's always two parts to that. See, the first part of this is today the 130,000-square-foot building is empty. So in our traffic study, for instance, we're not allowed to count that as being traffic that we already paid impact fees for. So in my opinion, if you go to, and you can do this, go to any of the apartment projects, because usually that's what everybody wants to talk about, and you sit outside the garage, that traffic is a couple of cars an hour. Now, it's all day, but it's a couple of cars an hour. The retail is going to be specific times. If it's a restaurant, it's going to have the lunch hour, unless it's a breakfast restaurant. It's going to have the lunch hour, and then it's going to have the evening hours, and a little bit stronger on Saturday and Sunday. So what happens for the traffic, in my opinion, is it will all be able to be handled by Sunrise Boulevard as part of this project. And again, we're doing the improvements that we mentioned before. We'll also redo the timing, have the county look at retiming any of the lights, as if you see that there's more left turns. And I do want to make one, just put one thing on the record. I know my friends from Lauderdale West are not here tonight, but I do indicate to them, and we're doing it as part of our site, is we're trying to discourage, basically, left turns out of the interior of our site to go through the back roads to Lauderdale West Drive. And we'll do that through curbing just to prevent left turns. So if someone is in one of the buildings and stays on the north side of Sunrise Boulevard, they're going to go east, they're going to stay on the north side, they're going east, they're going to go in front of the condo office building, and then the building that has Social Security in it, and then it's Jack Rana Square. No, that's not Jack Rana Square. Where are the public's? Is that shopping center? Jack Rana Plaza. Jack Rana Plaza. I've only lived there for 15 years. So they're going to be going on an interior road. No, they're not. The whole idea is to discourage them from doing that. Well, but that's staying on the north side of Sunrise Boulevard, the same side of the road as you, not on the south side of the street. Well, if I'm on the north side of Sunrise Boulevard, I'm going west, right? You could go east on Sunrise Boulevard also, and to get east. Now I'm not on the north. But here's the question. If you're in the community, and you want to go east, you want to go to Galilee Mall, so you're going to have to exit the community, make a U-turn at Palm Island? No, you can make a left turn out on Sunrise Boulevard. Okay, but is there a light, a traffic light? We're going to do a signal warrant for that light. That was what the staff recommended, and if we meet the requirements, then we'll get a light. And we love a light. Okay. I'm just trying to think. The height of the building. The only thing I just was a little concerned about was the amount of the height of the large building. And you've been very straightforward with us. Always have. And we tried to accommodate when we could, but sometimes they just, we actually think it's better than having five, five-story. Can you do that? Can you do that? It's certainly better than that, but five, five-story buildings. It just, I think it adds character to the site. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Winstrom. Thank you. I have a few questions. She has some great questions, so she can go after. Yours are great, too. No, this is her area. So my first question is more of a comment. I think this is a fabulous idea. I think you've incorporated everything that we've said throughout about wanting things, people to be able to walk, to have different mixed units, to have retail. And where you put it in that corner I think is perfect because it really is, there's nothing there. It's just an eyesore that's been there for a long time. So I think this is a very, very, a good spot. And I notice the colors are orange and blue. And what's funny is when I saw the renderings, it looks like a very modern Beatty Towers to me. So go Gator alumni, all of us. I really, really like that. It does. It looks like Beatty Towers. And I was thinking about your name. I've actually been there. I went to Florida State, but I had many friends and did a couple of growls. So I really like, you've referred to it a couple of times as a village. And I kind of like that terminology. I like that feeling of a village. It's more of a community sense. Oh, no orange and blue? Just your sign here. The sign of your, okay. But I do like the name village because you've mentioned that a few times. I think that's a really conducive type of word for community. And that's what we're trying to build in Plantation. We don't want just stock apartment buildings. We want a village. So I like that. And you also referred to it as campus. So if you want to keep the PCC, it could be Plantation Campus Center or something, Plantation City Campus. So just those are two thoughts, and I thought it was a very, very thoughtful project of really trying to incorporate what a lot of people in the city have been asking for. So one of my first questions is, again, I love the towers. They look like Beatty Towers to me. My question is in terms of flat roofs and hurricanes and in terms of flooding. Is there, obviously everything's new code, but what's the, is there a disadvantage to having all those flat roofs? I want to have the architect to address that. Hi. So the majority of construction nowadays for, you know, multi-story buildings are flat roofs. They're more resistant for water ponding. So the way they're designed is to accumulate four inches of water. There's overflow capacity. So you have your main drainage system and you have an overflow system. And it really makes it more advantageous for rooftop equipment, for servicing and what have you, to have that flat roof. It also helps contain water within the site rather than shed onto the site or go into additional areas where then you have to collect at the ground level. Okay. And it drains down the sides disguised in. Well, some of it drains internally and then obviously scuppers kind of overflow or you have overflow drains that are also internal. So there's different ways to do it. But it basically is easier to divert and control and contain the water in a flat roof drain system versus having water, you know, coming off a pitched roof. It doesn't just sheet off the edges. Correct. And it has internal drainage. Okay. Thank you. Another question I had or a suggestion is the roundabout, especially at the walk and stuff, the roundabout, a lot of people get confused. It causes a little bit of a traffic delay. I was wondering if you were open to putting a different, like an emergency access road, like another one just, you know, for emergency vehicles right off of, like, the corner there of Sunrise going in so you can get towards the back by where the townhouses are quicker. There is a road up there. There is an access road on the north side. On the north side, yeah. You just don't have left in off of Sunrise, but you have right in. Yeah, that road goes directly straight back towards the townhouse area. So you could bypass that area if it was a busy night and there was restaurants and outside or there was some sort of event even happening in the main boulevard. There's a bypass, if you will, on the west. Could there be one the other way, just emergency vehicles only? Probably not. Yeah. And the reason for that is with the size of the fire truck, if you're assuming that everything stays the same it is, except I have to add probably a 20, 20, I think it will take 20-something feet if it's one way. But if it's two ways, I need to have another 50-foot road next to the 50-foot road. So where, okay, so let's see. So they would either come in the front and basically come down the, I call it the east side of the property where you see the kind of pinkish buildings. Yeah, that would be great, except I don't know how. Is there a button? Hey, I have a flip phone. Okay. All right, so that's not going to work. Yeah, there it goes. So they would come in, and I think their first option, quite frankly, would be to go just like this to get to the middle. But what you're suggesting is, well, yeah, but that's a difficult route. We actually sized this particular island so that the fire department could get over it, and you'll actually find it's specially designed to where they can actually drive over about three-quarters of it, hopefully not over our art structure. But they'll come in, come down this way, or they'll come in, come in this way. Okay, and there's not a way from those buildings to have, like, just an access that's closer? Either I'd have to strip out and make an end away, and these folks, I'd have to start stripping out landscaping here, or I'd have to basically shave off basically part of that. Because you'd lose all the parking. And we do want to have parking that's easily accessible to those units. Okay. But we appreciate the comment, and, you know, we will take a look at whether or not there's a way, perhaps at least in this area, to get them back here. Because, right, if there's an emergency in the back and you're having to go through, you know, possibly driving over the grass area, I don't know. The fire department will take the path of least resistance to get to those, which means they're going to go on that north side or the upper side and make the one right turn. They're not going to necessarily go do a bunch of zigzags if they don't have to. So my concern, since we're bringing it up, did the plans get addressed with regards to the internal and external turn radio, the 35 and 50 foot, with regards to the fire department, did they sign off on that? Yes. Okay. So as far as the fire department is concerned, they've got access into everything there. Okay. So fire and police are all on board with this layout. Okay. My last question, and thank you for answering everything, is I obviously prefer home ownership, and it seems like most of these are rentals. Is there a possibility of switching some of it to condo versus rental, and what are the square feet of some of the apartments that we have now? I'm calling the architect back up. I know from a business model, because we have management for all these, that they'll need to be rentals. Now, that does not mean that in the future we have a period of time here about 10 years ago where apartments were being converted to condos, but the current market for the condos and the ability to finance them is virtually zero, at least at the moment. Now, the townhome is a little different story. They're selling like hotcakes. Oh, they've got them. So you have, okay, so there's that many studios, one bedroom, two bedroom, got it. And the townhome? Correct. And I wanted to also show that, you know, the sizes were the same for the affordable units. I know some people ask that question. I've never had a project, you know, suggest a difference between the affordable units and the regular units. Okay. So affordable, we've got 22, 19, 10. And so that's the amount of the ones that are going to be priced? Correct. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Just one question. And first, I just want to commend all of you guys. I think it's a great project, especially with the scale and everything you guys did to get the project really compatible with the neighborhood. My question would actually be with regards to the parking and the allocation of the parking. I know you, we have the parking garage and then you have it across the site, but is there any, is it going to be any dedicated parking? Suzanne? Oh, I mean dedicated is it's, well, the way the staff has allowed us to do this is we're able to assign one space per unit and the rest would be up for grabs. Now, when I say up for grabs, you know, the retail spaces around the retail, we're not going to let each tenant have their own space because they each have different flows. It works better that way. If the question is in the garage, which is kind of the last, everybody will have an assigned space, and I'm anticipating that the first two floors of almost every mixed-use project I go has the sign that says, you know, retail customers. But that doesn't mean that at 10 o'clock if I come home and there's a spot and I, you know, Vicki and I are coming back from dinner and. . . Well, my question, I think, would be more accurate. Well, we could go there for dinner. How's that? Anyway, so the answer is there's a small portion that would be, for the residential, they'd be assigned, and then the townhouses would have assigned parking as well. And then what about the mid-size units? Because if you're, say, if you're parking in this retail store in the front on the east portion, they could have overflow into those units? Yeah, we've left those open. Okay. We understand and recognize that potential, particularly that one line right there, you know, next to the retail on the, basically the southeast side, near those handicapped spaces. But we have to be able to have a little bit of a flow. So, yes, you may have to walk. I mean, that's one of the issues, you know, we talked about plantation walk. A majority of the parking is in the garage, and the biggest complaint I get is that there's not enough parking right next to the retail. And so you are going to have to walk on occasion, particularly if you're, I call it, the last person home. But there's enough. I was just wondering if there was any consideration about maybe getting off a portion for those units, for the residents that are going to be back there in this. Well, the answer is we'll certainly take that into consideration if it's part of a recommendation. We understand, again, the challenge for us is just we want to make sure that retail is attractive. I can tell you earlier, the number one issue when I was trying to get the leases for the restaurants at Plantation Walk is originally we didn't have any parking near them, and we couldn't attract a quality tenant. So that's why that leak was taken out. He says so sarcastically. I think it was draining to detention of retention. We had our fight about that. Matt. Yeah. Once again, thank you for the presentation. I appreciate the comprehensiveness and reaching out to the neighbors in the area. I actually live in the Manon Plantation, so I would do this to that. I love it. The lake is definitely out of Manatee. The one thing is I don't think we have a bike storage facility, so people use the parking garage, like railings, for that and for trying to reduce the traffic. I'm not sure if this is the point of the project to mention it, but a bike storage facility, at least for the residential area, would be correct. I think we have a 72-byte storage in the big building, and we also have additional bike areas with the smaller buildings as well. Okay. All right. That's perfect. Yeah. Now, what I was asking about is I call it the repair room. I haven't gotten that from them yet. Any other questions for the days? I do. Okay. Are all the needs equipped with hurricane-proof windows and packed windows? I'm going to say the answer is yes, but I'll just turn to make sure that it's not a yes. And do they also have patios or place outdoors for each apartment? I would guess not for each apartment, but for most or all. Just thumbs up if it's all. Thumbs up, they say. As long as it has a patio. Okay. You have to bring it, you know, in a hurricane, you have to bring it in. And the other thing is that canal goes through the neighborhood. There's no alligators, so you just take iguanas. They're about as big as alligators these days. They're bigger than the alligators. And, again, we appreciate your time, everybody on the board as well, because I know this was a few longer than alligators. This means a truce for us now, Bill. Okay. And these two. Yeah. Take that out. Dutch, for Clinton, Dutch treat though. Well, I'm not allowed to see it on the board now. Yeah, you can't do that. Before I could. Yeah, I'm sorry. I just lost a meal because of you. Yes, you did. No. So, I was holding my questions to the end. Sorry, I was holding my questions to the end. 10% of these units are going to be for 120% of AMI. I get that it's 10% of the 512. That 512 is including all of the flex plus the 92 bonus units, correct? Correct. So, you're getting a bonus to 92 units, only 10% is being offered affordable. Is there a way to make it work at 20%? Because if we were truly concerned about the affordability for teachers, firefighters, police officers that you mentioned, the tax revenue going towards offsets for all of those doesn't do anything for the immediacy of trying to get somebody into an affordable unit. So, is there a world where 20% works? I ask you this not to be me, but rather because I know for a fact when it comes before city council, you're going to get that question, you better have an answer for it. I understand. The answer is no. Okay. So, you're saying it only works at 10%? That's correct. 12%? I'm not going to. All right. Hang on. I'll gladly move forward to that particular discussion when it comes before city council. I understand what you're saying. So, Reserved Flex Units are on page 6 of the packet that was put together by staff. Reserved Flex Units are contingent upon, quote, quality housing standards. And it says this project does not meet the quality housing standards as it does not provide for cement tile roofs with staggered roof lines and perimeter well fences and not demonstrated compliance with adequate residential storage facilities. Interestingly, we had an issue with a storage facility in Midtown a couple of months ago, not adequate storage facilities being a contingency of having Reserved Flex Units. So, is there adequate storage for residences in these structures? In our opinion, yes. And so, let's start with this. So, staff, do you have clarification? Let me finish responding a little bit. So, when quality housing standards were put together years and years ago, they weren't going to tile roofs either. The style has changed. So, I look at residential storage as being what's in the unit and what's extra. Staff looks at it as being you're going to have a separate little cage or area for storage. I just disagree. I don't think that's what the code necessarily says. On the plans, when you look at the tile building, there are three or four dedicated storage areas on each floor. Are those going to be for the facility or are those for the residences or residents on those floors to use? Looking for an architect on that. They're coded gray on the plans that we planned out for. I know. And the reason why I'm asking this question is because if staff read in their report that there's not adequate storage, then my question is, why not? So, there are spaces allocated on each floor that could be reserved for either residence storage, for overall building storage. We still have to go through all of our MEP exercise. So, whether or not those storage rooms are going to become mechanical rooms, I can't say for sure. MEP means? Oh, sorry. Mechanical electrical plumbing. Yep. Thank you. So, as of now, it's unallocated space. But whether or not I can stand here right now and commit to you, whether it could be storage for residents, I cannot. Okay. Staff, if you would come in for the staff report? So, as indicated, these standards were put in some time ago. I would say probably most of it, at least the recent units that have gone in do not fully meet this. We're going to go back and we're going to take a look at kind of modifying some of these standards. But is that, with regards to that flex, is that a county or a city requirement to have, and I'm fine with regards to the tiles and all of that, but with the city requirements. Yes. Units have gotten smaller and these are going towards a smaller footprint, especially for the studios. Correct. Can we keep that up? Because there are a couple things I'm going to have to reference later on. So, as the units shrink, kind of like the discussion that we had about putting the storage in Midtown was, oh, the units are shrinking, we need places to put things. So, I can't square that circle. So, which one is it? In order for them to use flex, do they have to provide the storage? Under the current standard, yes. I just want to add some context to the current standard. It's a very old standard that, in my opinion, does not really relate to kind of what's going on in the market. I mean, you know, you go back to the 70s, you know, you had huge units. These units, over time, continue to get smaller. What gets compromised as they get smaller is generally storage space. Yes. And so, and that's why I said we're going to take a look at this, but if you, this is a city's current plan standard. So, yes, this is a requirement. Okay. So, and now it's basically going to be an issue of grammar. Because if you go to page 19 of your report, or did, number 14. Allowing use of flex outside of midtown is a major change worth the comprehensive plan and city plan. As fast as limiting residential density outside of midtown. The project on my own in building should exceed development standards with an exceptional quality product. Does that mean, oh, we're expecting it to, or meaning, hey, it needs to. Like, what's the, what's the grammar structure of that sentence intended to be? Do we have the belief that they're going to do it, or it needs to do it? In my opinion, in terms of the size, I'm going to, I'm speaking specifically to the size. I mean, in terms of the, in terms of the quality, you know, of the unit and the finishes and all that. Yes, we expect them to, to meet all of that. But there are some things that we do, I will be quite honest with you, we do need to go back and take a look at within the comprehensive plan that needs to be. And we're going to do that. Right. As part of the exercise that we're going through right now. Yeah, and that part, again, I just want to know, for that sentence right there, does, does that mean we all have confidence that this project is going to do it? Therefore, we can allocate flex, or is it we still need to look and verify whether or not they will do that? I, I do have confidence that it's going to, to do that based upon what they've submitted. Uh, so yes. Okay. And that's why, and that's probably why we've recommended, uh, approval of it. All right. Um, with regards to number five, the loading areas. You got three proposed loading areas. One of them is into the large retail spot there. Yes. Uh, bottom left-hand corner of the picture. The other two are up in between the parking garage and, I assume, what might be a lobby area for, uh, the large building there. Um, where would, in your opinion, the best use of those flexible loading zones be? Because, frankly, I get the, oh, only five minute loading zone is permitted. But, it takes the police longer than that to respond to somebody who has a unit. So, where would you anticipate those other effective loading zones to be? Probably the, the best use is going to be here. I, I think when you get to look at this flex zone, I'm sorry, this loading zone, it's going to be, uh, kind of limited. Yeah, I mean, that one makes sense for that one property. I get that. All the small leather buildings, they're loaded in front, I assume, which does kind of raise one question. Because, when you look at the entrances to all of those low-rise buildings, they're all in those walkways, those little sidewalks right there. Um, so, presumably, anybody who wants to load is going to have to block off a couple of common parking spaces. Right. If, for example, you just go, you got the yellow building, you go right across the street there. Right. There's three of them, top, middle, bottom, according to our reference there. Right. So, if somebody's loading in to those three buildings, my assumption is they're going to load in pretty much right where those two handicap spots are. So, where is the plan for loading in those buildings and then, obviously, the other ones? Because, to me, it seems you're going to have to block off parking spaces. Right. Or else, they're going to pose a fire hazard with regard to a truck not being able to really make it by, depending upon how anal the driver is. Yeah. So, a lot of the moving trucks, many of them, some of them are people who move themselves usually a lot of times in some of these smaller units. Some of the new hall-type vehicles, they can fit within a space. There may be some that hire a larger mover or what have you that it may, for the time being, kind of improve. Well, just on the basis. Sorry, Danny. That was probably more for the applicant to address whether or not those concerns are going to need or what their vision is for where they're going to load into those buildings. We do these projects all over the country. I call it the smart loading. We will not allow the handicap parking spots to be blocked. But typically, yes, for five to 15 minutes, somebody can park, unload, and then come back and get their vehicle. And it will be outside, again, of the handicap parking spots. Right. For the loading buildings, I guess, again, do you envision having a dedicated set of spots that will be loading and unloading spots? We won't make them dedicated. We won't make them dedicated. They'll be signed. I mean... Signed, signed. Not signed. In my mind, that's a dedicated spot. Yeah. As you're saying, you're going to load it here. At night, they will be available for use for parking for the residents. So we do have that plan for the low-rise buildings. Okay. By the way, I like the idea of the smart zones as long as people follow the rules. But that's contingent among people being nice and... Right. That's not that. Okay. So with regards to the roof height, we've got a building of 90 feet and a... Are we okay? We've got a building height of 90 feet and then we have the, like, the structural top for air conditioning and everything else is 15 feet for a total height of 105 feet. Well, is that because of sight lines at that height? All right. You fix the drive aisles. We've got those. Can we go to Compatibility View 4 for the presentation on the part of the applicant? It's basically the kind of pseudo overhead sky view of the plan. While you're getting that one up there, I'm just going to say, from an architectural standpoint, yeah, they're very pretty buildings, 100%. But you also have to remember, all images can be deceiving. I asked this the last time this project was up here and I understand why you all did it. It just frankly bothers me. Are you going to diamond bright the water retention pond? Is it a concrete base with a diamond bright finish underneath it? In other words, is it a giant pool? No, obviously not, right? Cool. So look at that lake right there. So it's a little bit of brown? Yeah, actually I do and let me tell you why. Because when you are looking at the images, what this does is it kind of sanitizes and makes it look cleaner than it actually is. The same is if you go to view number five right there to show the courtyard, it's a slight fish-eyed view. Which means when you look at it, it distorts the perspective lines of the structure. So what you get is a sense that the structure is both smaller and farther than it actually is. Which means from a human scale standpoint, when you're standing on the opposite corner there, that building is going to appear slightly larger than it actually is. So the images themselves are misleading. You're not going to change the color. I understand you're not going to change it. But I'm also going to put it on the record that what you are putting forth is not a complete picture. This is a great little packet that you got here. It has a lot of signatures in it, but not one of those comments that you mentioned were written on here where they could have done it. I get that they don't want to, but the level of support is very easy to say, Hey, do you like these red rings? Look at how pretty it's going to look. And that mis-perspective- I could spend five hours with those folks explaining every laser- I'm sure they are- I'm sure they are- Mr. Eisner, you're missing out of the wire. No, I am not. You're trying to suggest that we're trying to misuse people- No, I'm not. Absolutely not. No, I'm not. What I'm saying is that the images are inherently going to be misleading. But if you then use that misleading imagery to get a look how pretty it'll be, and we didn't. We just think we did. I'm just saying we're going to have a difference of opinion on this, but it is a very pretty product. What images did you use when you talked to people? Exactly these images. That's what he's saying though. He's saying they're misleading and I'm saying they're not. We didn't mislead them at all. I'm not going to sit here and let you put that on any- We even put it on the record because I can't stop you, but I mean- Well, the only reason I'm saying it's misleading is because if you put a fisheye perspective in like that, it does change the relationships of the parks. I want you to make a comment on every project that comes up, every little project, every big project. I do. I want you to make a comment on every project because if you're going to look at renderings, renderings are just that. They're renderings of the architectural design. That's right. It's an expectation. Correct. And the same way that you can draw a single point versus a two point perspective system and change how a building looks is what I'm talking about. So what I mean is the same thing. We really know what you mean. All right? We just disagree. Okay. But then just be really careful with how you're presenting it. And I'm simply saying it because I don't like when things like this come before us and people don't consider every piece of the- No, you just try to create an argument to lessen the fact that those people signed that. So if I go back to them with whatever rendering you want and they still sign it, are they going to say okay? No. You'll come up with something else. If it is an accurate render, of course, because I'm not disputing- How am I going to- How am I going to- How am I going to issue a sign-off on it anymore? No. I am not disputing what these people supported. What I was saying was- You're saying I misled them and that's why they slightly- Yes. And it's wrong. No, it's correct. No. We just disagree. You can sit here all night because I'm not giving an inch on that. I'm aware you're not. But I am going to point it out. Of course you are. And I will point it out when we'll see the council. That's the council. Yes, I know. Yep. Yeah. No question about it. Are there any comments from the chamber? Any more from the base? Just really quick on the- On the retention pond, you could make it chlorinated if you wanted, like a chlorinated fountain type thing, if you wanted to. Not for water retention. Not for water retention. It's more natural. Yeah. I don't think we want to chlorinate just simply because it is a drainage lake, so it actually connects to the other drainage lakes. But you can clean it. I mean, maintain it with a gardener or something. Well, we'll always maintain it. His argument is just that because it's not brown, well, why am I going to- Okay. I'll get back on. I don't want- We're going to make it brown. I'm going to make it brown. I mean, it is- So if I make it brown, now I'm going to be at city council, and this one's going to get up and he's going to say, well, see, now he's made it brown, but he didn't go back and ask everybody. No. I'm not saying that. I'll put that on the record, but I'm not going to ask that at all. No. Well, what are you going to say about our signatures? You're going to say they're misleading. I'm not saying that those signatures don't count because you sign it, it's a legal document going on you. What I'm saying is that those images are not accurate representations of what they look like if I'm standing on that corner. You and I will disagree continually. Yep. I apologize to the rest of the board, but that's not what I'm- Max, did you have a question? No, I didn't have a question. I was actually going to make the motion. Oh, okay. Any other questions? All right. Comments are closed or I have a motion. Yeah. I move to recommend approval of this application subject to staff comments with the one additional recommendation of working with County Transit to get that bus shelter in place. All right. Thank you. Staff comments, you mean staff conditions? Yes. Okay. Listed in the report? Yes, the ones listed in the report. All right. I second that motion. Is there additional letters that the staff is seeing that they need presentation that they're going to work with staff on those because they didn't know about it until this past Friday, but there's still issues that they haven't addressed in their plans? Yes. Did they include that as well? Okay. Yes. Some of which the applicant said they would fix. And there were some suggestions they said they would try. So, I mean, you can't hold someone to try, but I believe that they're going to try. Absolutely. They're- The code requires some level of addressing it, so they're going to have to do something. Well, it seems that my lawyer asked for the additional waiver. Is that included in staff conditions? Okay. Yes. I'm pretty sure we have a motion. And did Matt need to second everything you just said? Yes, he did. Yes. Yes. Second. The motion is second. Please call him. Okay. Mr. McIntosh? Yes. Ms. Dudley Berger? Yes. Mr. Corman? Yes. Yes. Mr. Goldstein? Yes. Ms. Gelfand? Yes. Thank you. All right. We have nothing else on the agenda, but we do have some business related to scheduling staff, if you would. We appreciate your time. Assistant Director. We discovered that the November meeting is actually the same day as Election Day, so obviously it's not a good time to have a meeting. Looking at November, there's two major holidays, Veterans Day and Thanksgiving. So the other Tuesdays would be November, rather than November 5th, would be November 12th and November 26th, which is the same week as Thanksgiving. So November 12th follows Veterans Day, and like we moved this month's meeting up from Labor Day weekend, you know, you're not likely to want to read agenda items on a long holiday weekend. So we'd love to find out what the temperature is as far as having a November meeting on the alternative date, and we want to throw out there possibly October 29th, the week before November 5th, which would be four weeks after the regular meeting that we have on October 1st. So we recommend either October 29th or perhaps November 19th. And of course, unless we have a majority decision here tonight, we could also, Shamika can also email and poll you, but if you want to have that discussion. So October 1st was set for the October meeting? Yes. Yes. So in November, we don't want to have the conflict with Election Day. Do we have items? We expect to have items October and November and probably December. Yes. How high is that expectation? Fairly high. Give me a percentage. 87.2%. Oh, that's not high enough, sir. No, very, very likely. We'll, you know, between, I don't know if we have any homeowner variances at this moment in time, but we do expect to have some comp plan items, some code items, and potentially some development items. I can't carry a big purse, so I don't have my calendar with me. Can Shamika send emails out for that? Yeah, of course. And it's just to throw that out there just to, you know, So it's the 29th or the 19th is what you're proposing, correct? Correct. But if it's the 29th, we wouldn't have another meeting until December. Correct. All right. Issues with any of that? I've already let them know that I'm out of pocket for the October 1, so. You're here for the first October, right? No, actually for October 1 and at the end of the month, I'm in a training cycle, so I won't be here for October. Would November 19th work for you? Maybe. I won't know until October 16th. So that is just mine. But we can have a quorum without it and you get to run it, so. We would reach out to both regular members and nonprofits to make sure we have a quorum either way. I have personally no objection to it. Do we need a motion on that one or no? Okay. It's a discussion. I want you to think about it and, you know, look out for it. If you have a clear conflict, I'm just thinking that's what he's really going to want to know right now. Versus what he's talking about. I mean, I've... Shamika will, I guess, pull us. If you do have conflicts, let it in. If you don't, likewise, and depending upon the answer there, you guys will just kind of have to work it out and let us know. Okay. Anything else? They're going to have more of those for City Council, so consider that yours. Your gift for many of you. Any other questions? Comments? Many adjourned. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.