Planning & Zoning Board — Jun 10, 2025

I'm looking at you I'd like to call the planes on board meeting for the City of Plantation date June 10th 2025 to order If I could please have quiet in the chamber. Thank you. Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Mr. Speer Present. Mr. Stahl. Here. Mr. McIntosh. Here. Mr. Corman. Here. Mr. Freeman. Yes. Mr. Goldstein. Here. Mr. Della Grange. Here. Thank you. All right. Thank you. First order of business is the approval of the meeting minutes from May 6th 2025. Does anybody have any additions or amendments to those meeting minutes? Second. I have a motion and a second. Please call the roll. Mr. Speer. Yes. Mr. Stahl. Yes. Mr. McIntosh. Yes. Mr. Corman. Yes. Mr. Freeman. Yes. Mr. Goldstein. Yes. Mr. Della Grange. Yes. Thank you. All right. Our first meeting agenda item tonight is PP24-003 and it's compiling the PP24-004 consideration of a request for conditional use waivers, site plan elevation, and landscape plan approval for the residents at Plantation Square. The property is located at 8190 West Sunrise Boulevard and Zone B7Q planned commercial development. Staff, if you would. Good night, Planning and Zoning Board Chair, Vice Chair, Assistant City Clerk, Assistant City Attorney, members of the public, applicant, Lillian Rainford here with the Planning and Zoning and Economic Development Department, presenting tonight the item read by the Chairman, PP24-0003 and PP24-0004, the residences at Plantation Square. I'm going to apologize now because we have a new clicker and I am just learning how to use it. So tonight we have three requests. The first is for a site plan elevation and landscape plan approval to construct a freestanding multi-tenant building to include a bank with drive-thru and an eight-story multifamily residential development with 307 residential units. The second request is for conditional use approval to allow a multifamily residential development in a B7Q zoning district. And the third is for six zoning waivers and four landscape waivers from Chapter 27 of the City Code. Staff has identified areas of the plan which will require two additional zoning waivers. The property is located at 8190 West Sunrise Boulevard. It's on the south side of Sunrise Boulevard, approximately 500 feet west of University Drive. The zoning map shows that the property is Zone B7Q, which is Planned Commercial Development District, is approximately 5.53 acres in size with an existing Bank of America building. The land use is dashed line area commercial with irregular residential. And the agent for tonight is William Laystrom, Jr., Esquire, and the owner is NNG Plantation Square, LLC. The adjacent zoning districts to the north and to the west, we have B2P, which is our central business zoning district. And to the south and to the east, we have B7Q as the subject property, which is Planned Commercial Development District. The area map shows the public notification boundary. This is a 500-foot notification boundary, and 266 notices were mailed to the surrounding property owners within that boundary. The area is also characterized sitting north by the Sunrise Boulevard, then Jacaranda Plaza. I'm attempting to use it now. And to the east, we have the Plantation Square Shopping Center. So to the south, we have the northwest 17th Court and the recently built Lena Apartments. And then to the west, we have Medical Office Buildings, also known as the University Professional Plaza. So the property is zoned B7Q, and this is one of the three kinds of PCDs, which is Planned Community Development Zoning Districts in Plantation. Section 27-92 outlines the review criteria to achieve orderly development and design for land with the specific zoning district designation. Based on the review, staff makes the following findings and conclusions for adding a 307-unit multifamily residential development as a B7Q candidate conditional use. The first is that the applicant has demonstrated compliance with Section 27-92A as an orderly and creative arrangement of all land uses with respect to each other. The applicant, however, has not demonstrated compliance with Section 27-92A, the aesthetics qualities of the PCD. The applicant has demonstrated compliance with 27-92A6C, where the development is in harmony with adjacent development. The applicant has demonstrated compliance with Section 27-92A-8F-I, the project is located with respect to arterials or major streets, to provide access to said thoroughfares. The applicant has demonstrated compliance with 27-92A-8F-I, and is compatible with the surrounding areas. And finally, the applicant has demonstrated compliance with Section 27-92A-8F-I, where the usable open space requirement is recognized as consisting of both open space that is generally located on the site or in the immediate vicinity of the development. So the first request we'll look at tonight is the site plan, elevation, and landscape plan approval to construct a three-standing multi-tenant building to include a bank with drive-thru and an eight-story multifamily residential development with 307 units. The applicant is requesting to redevelop the site and demolish the existing two-story Bank of America building. The site will be developed on the north portion of the site with a smaller building footprint, approximately 7,000 square feet. The building will be comprised of two tenants, one of which is the Bank of America, with a proposed drive-thru canopy, which will have two lanes on the eastern side. The south portion of the property will be developed with an eight-story residential building with an associated seven-story parking garage. We also see the arrangement of the surface parking on the property with the main entrance to the property from Sunrise Boulevard to the north. We also see the arrangement of the landscape material and pedestrian zones on the property. Now, any new commercial or any new buildings within the B7Q are required to comply with the 27-92 design guidelines, as well as 27-291 of the urban design regulations and also 27-300 of the architectural design guidelines. We're looking here at the north and west elevations of the multifamily building. We see the north elevation faces the Sunrise Boulevard, and the west elevation faces the medical office building. We see on the building stucco banding, concrete brows. We have metal seam roofs. We have the color placement on the buildings. And on the north elevation is the main entrance to the residential building, and this will be feature wood cradding. The rear and the east side of the building also carries through with the color placements. And we see that on the south elevation, it faces northwest 17th Court, and the east elevation faces the shopping center. The material schedule and color palette has been provided by the applicant, and we see the proposed colors, and the glass one material that has been proposed for the north elevation and the west elevation. The multi-tenant bank building faces Sunrise Boulevard to the north, and on the west, it faces the medical office building. The materials here that are proposed, it's a hardy plank, it's an architectural panel that they will place on the building. And then both main entrances to the tenants are from the north. On the south and east side of the bank building, we see that the same architectural elements are carried through. And these are the material colors for the bank building. A landscape plan has also been proposed for the development. It shows the proposed locations for plantings and hedge material, and also trees, and the landscape staff comments were provided in the staff report. We also have the landscape architects for the applicants, and also the staff landscape plans examiner to answer any questions. The proposed building will be comprised of 307 residential units. Twenty-five percent, or 77 of those units, will be affordable units. The unit mix comprises of studios, one-bedrooms, two-bedrooms, and three-bedrooms. Seventy-one of those studios will be affordable housing units. The size of the growth square footage of these studios will be 560 square feet, and 89 of those are proposed. There are four models for the one-bedroom units, ranging in size from 679 square feet to 704 square feet. There will be 101 of those dwelling units, and six of those will be affordable housing units. The two-bedroom plan will be 954 square feet and growth square feet, with 101 dwelling units proposed. And the three-bedrooms, 14 of those are proposed, with 1,202 gross square feet in size. The bank closing floor plan shows two tenants, which we saw before. We have the Bank of America, which is about 6,303 square feet, and the other tenant, which will be approximately 1,000 square feet. The required parking is based on the use, and we're looking at both residential and also commercial. Based on the parking ratio, when applied, the required parking for both the residential and commercial building is 679 spaces required, and the applicant is providing 540 spaces. This is a difference of 139 spaces, and is a 20.5% reduction. It should be noted that 433 of those spaces are in the garage, 95 of those spaces are surface parking spaces, 7 of those will be located off-site, 12 will be EV installed, and 16 AD. The applicant did submit a comprehensive traffic study that evaluated the impact of the proposed development on the surrounded roadway network. The study concluded the following, that the development is expected to produce 112 net new weekday AM peak hour trips, 65 net new weekday PM peak hour trips, and 606 net new weekday daily trips. The revised development plan is expected to result in an increase in new weekday AM peak hour trips, a reduction in net new weekday PM peak hour trips, and a reduction of 594 net new weekday daily trips compared to the previously approved development plan. And this is the trip generation table, with the AM peak hour and PM peak hour information. Sorry to interrupt, but can I ask a quick question? Regarding the... What is the previously approved development plan? I'm going to ask the engineer, assistant director to answer that question since I... Yeah, I just want to know what we're comparing it to. Sorry to interrupt your presentation. That's okay. Hello, good afternoon. Leonard Donneville, assistant city engineer. If you recall, there was a previously approved plan for a lower building, and there was kind of to the left or to the west of the property. At that time, we had a traffic study at that time, and when you compare these two studies, this site now have provided less... What was the slide? Yeah, a reduction on the PM, on a reduction on the net new daily trips, but an increase on the AM. So when you're comparing to the previously approved site plan, and that was having the building on the west, and I think at that time also, there was... It was like a standalone site, but now we have a land-user amendment also with this one that's combining the plaza with this development. So because of that, that's why you're saying the reduction in the trips. My name is Derek. I'm here on behalf of the engineer that prepared this. I'm familiar with the project. Could you give your phone name and address? Derek Tedeschi with Kim Lehorn. Okay. So the reason for the... One of the main reasons also for the reduction is now that the project is proposing cross-access. Basically, what that means is there is an expected number of trips that are going to be contained on-site because the shopping plaza has retail now, which minimizes by a bit the impact to the external network, essentially. So that helps. Thank you. Not it. Thank you. Since we're in this little section right here, seven off-site parking spots, are those in the shopping plaza? Yes, that's in the... Yes, that is. Thank you. Continuing the traffic study recommendations, the City of Plantation recently adopted a MMTP plan. The City is requesting this development to contribute to the identified improvements within this corridor or any other local roadway improvements. The applicant has agreed to traffic improvement cost-sharing and to a traffic management plan within the Lauderdale West community and Northwest 17th Court. The traffic management plan includes, but is not limited to, the installation of speed radar signs, eliminated stop signs, and speed tables. And this is just a graphic of the plans. The applicant also must obtain a Transportation Concurrency Satisfaction Certificate from Broad County, and the revenues from the Transportation Concurrency Assessments are used to fund transit enhancements in that particular district. And there's also a recommendation that once the residential project is completed and occupied, the development team contact the BCTED to request signal timing of these traffic signals at Sunrise Boulevard and North Pine Island Road, and Sunrise Boulevard and North University Drive. And that's highlighted in blue. The access management shows that the property can be accessed from Sunrise Boulevard, right in, right out. We also have a right out only once you leave the bank drive-thru. On the south, we have Northwest 17th Court. There is a right in, right out, and left in, and left out. And off-site, we have Northwest 17th. There's a right in, right out, and a left in, left out. The second request is for conditional use approval to LA Multifamily Residential Development in a B7Q zoning district. The applicant had to provide a response to the criteria found in Section 27-45D of the code. The responses were evaluated by staff, and staff finds that the applicant does meet all eight criteria. Pursuant to the B7Q zoning district regulations, all uses deemed appropriate must be approved on a conditional use basis. The applicant is requesting to allow all uses permitted in B2P as a candidate conditional use. However, staff recommends excluding certain uses that are not deemed appropriate or compatible and have a recommended list of uses for the B7Q, which we believe is more compatible with the proposed mixed-use pedestrian-oriented development. The applicant is requesting six zoning waivers and four landscape waivers. The first zoning waiver is from Section 27-92A-5B-23, which requires the height of all buildings containing residential not to exceed five stories with a maximum of 65 feet. And the applicant is requesting to increase the required building height to eight stories. The second request for setbacks, south 106.5 feet is required, and east 139.5, and also on the west 139.5. The applicant is requesting to have a south setback at 53.6, east 18.5 feet, and on the west 74.8 feet. The applicant is also requesting a waiver to the minimum net floor area per dwelling unit. The studios are required to be at 600 square feet in net floor area, one bedroom, 750 square feet, and the two bedroom, 950 square feet. The applicant is requesting to reduce the minimum floor area for the studio, 509 square feet, the one bedroom, 615 square feet, and the two bedroom, 878 square feet. The fourth zoning waiver is to section 27-123A, which requires 679 parking spaces for the proposed residential and commercial building uses. And the request is to reduce the required parking from 679 spaces to 540 spaces. The fifth waiver is to reduce the number of the off-street loading zones from 6 to 2, and this is from section 27-126. The sixth zoning waiver is from 27-300A for B, which requires buildings fronting on a right away to be composed of 75% class 1 or class 2 material, with at least 10% of class 1 material on the total facade. The applicant is requesting to reduce the class 1 material, which is a wood cladding that identifies the main entrance to the building to 2%. This is not supported by staff. And the other is from the same section, which requires 5% of the class 1 material, and the total facade to be class 1. And the applicant here at the time of assembly so requested to reduce it to zero. I just want the board to know that the applicant has been working with staff. They have shown us a plan that will exceed the class 1 material on the south side of the building. They're also proposing to add material, class 1 material on the west side of the building. So they have been working with staff to improve the material percentages, but those have not been formally submitted. Just a quick question. When we're referring to class 1, class 2, is that a city ordinance, a city standard, or is that building code? It's a city standard. A city standard, yes. Oh, if I may check, what's the purpose of that standard? Is it like a safety thing, or is it aesthetics, like, for the purpose of those classes? It's for aesthetics. Okay, thank you. And I just have one question, too. They're working with you on the west side and on the south side to get the class 1 materials up. Are they working with you on the north side as well? They have not proposed anything else on the north side. The waivers that have not been requested are from Section 27-925B23. It requires a one-story building to have a minimum FAR of 0.3 and a maximum lot coverage of 0.3. And this will allow a maximum FAR at 1.7 and a maximum lot coverage of 0.34. For the eight-story building, it's required to have a maximum FAR of 1.18 and ground coverage of 0.2. And this will allow the eight-story building to have a maximum FAR of 1.4 and a maximum lot ground coverage of 0.34. The second waiver will be from Section 27-122B, which requires a two-way drive aisle to have a minimum width of 25 feet for 90-degree angle parking. And this will be reduced to a two-way aisle width of 24 feet in the parking garage. Sorry to interrupt one more time. How can a one-story building have an FAR of 1.7? Based on the calculations that it's – I'll have to show the calculation max. It's not easily just – Okay, because an FAR of greater than 1 either means it's more than one story or that it is spilling out onto other lots other than the one that it's developing on. I believe the FAR, based on our code requirement, once you see the calculations, which we have used, this is – once calculated, because we have multiple buildings on the lot, it calculates to the 1.7. Okay. Because when I saw that number, I was like, that is a physical impossibility. So I don't know if it's – if we have to change our definition of FAR to a more conventional one, but – That is something that's being proposed. I believe that Michael is working on that because our calculations – we have seen that once you come in more than one stories or the one-story buildings on the lot, they're not meeting the FAR per our code, and we're planning to change that. Okay. So just so that I know or that the board knows, if you'd use a more traditional FAR calculation, what's the number that we get instead of 1.7? That is something that we can look at. I know that Michael has – he has something in the code for that now. I did not apply that to this project at this time, but that is something I could take a look at and tell you what that number is. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. So the landscape requests, the first waivers from the perimeter buffer yard from section 27-255B1, which requires all properties to comply with the buffer yard requirements provided in table 255-1. The northern buffer yard, a 20-foot width is required, and the applicant is requesting to reduce the northern buffer yard to 13.03 feet in width, and that's identified with the green arrows. The second landscape waiver request is to street trees from section 27-255A1. One shade tree shall be required for every 40 feet of street frontage, less driveway openings. The seven shade trees are required, and the applicant is proposing no trees. The third landscape waiver is from landscape pedestrian zones 27-255D2, which requires the landscape pedestrian zone to be 50% of the building height or 10 feet, whichever is greater. The residential building on the north 30 feet is required, on the east 30 feet, and also on the west 30 feet. The bank building on the west requires 10.75. The reduction to the landscape pedestrian zones on the residential building to the north is 8.5, 7.5 on the east, and to the west, 4.2. The bank building on the west will be 4.1. Section 27-255D5, which requires one shade tree or a group of palms for every 30 lineal feet of landscape pedestrian zone, the bank requires three on the west, and the residential on the east requires 10. The reduction on the LPZ shade trees is as follows. On the bank west, LPZ 0, and on the residential east, LPZ 8. And this is a graphic that shows the, and the hours will show you where those reductions are. The fourth landscape waiver is from Section 255C1, where the landscape islands shall be located at the ends of all parking roads and interspersed throughout the entire parking lot. A minimum of 12 feet is required from inside curb to inside curb, and the applicant is requesting a minimum of 8.7 feet to 6 feet for those interior island widths. Important information, you should have seen a copy of the applicant's committee meeting summary that was held yesterday at the Central Park Multipurpose Building. The applicant did indicate that one person from the public attended that meeting. Citizen comments, to date, the staff has not received any emails or phone calls objecting to this application, and there aren't any violations issued for the subject property at this time. So staff finds that the application is compatible with the surrounding development pattern and zoning designation, that it meets compliance with the comp plan, and it meets and is found consistent with the plantation comprehensive plan future land use element. The request also meets and is found consistent with the plantation comprehensive plan housing element, and it's consistent with the zoning code with section 27-50, the site development plan sufficiency, 27-92 development plans for PCD, 27-41 notice for zoning measures, 27-45D conditional use criteria, and 27-5 to G2 practical difficulty waivered partial needs, and 27-928F.4 PCD waiver standards. And as I said before, they are working with staff on trying to comply with the percentages on the south, however, the north will still be reduced. In conclusions, based on the findings and conclusions outlined in the staff report, staff recommends approvals subject to staff conditions noted in section VB of the staff report. The staff is here for questions. Also, the applicant is here for questions. A question for applicant. Do you have a presentation that you want to give, or do you just want to respond? Do you want to do that now, and then we'll handle questions at the end? All right. Applicant, if you will. Thank you, staff. Good evening, board. Thank you all. This is name and address, please. Marcos Puente, MMG Plantation Square, LLC, 1797 North University Drive, Plantation Florida. Thank you. I think this is my third year up here, so thank you all for bearing with me, and thank you for your support last time as we got through the zoning and the land use change for the parcel that was supported by City Council as well as Broward County. We're now moving on to the details of the project with the site plan. So this is a rendering of the project from Sunrise Boulevard, showing the bank and the north elevation. I also want to thank staff for all your help. I know we've gone back and forth so much over the years now. As far as the Class 1 materials go, prior to City Council, we'll incorporate all of the recommended changes for the north and the south facade, so that's of no issue. Sorry about that. Just to clarify, so staff comments relative to the north and the south side, you are going to comply with, including up to the percentages of those materials that they mentioned on the entrance? Yes, sir. West side, you're already working with them on that? Yes, sir. Okay, thank you. So this is a redundant slide at this point. This one is a little more interesting. I want to begin by just zooming out. At this point, the zoning and the land use is in place for the apartment building. We're seeking the conditional use for said building. This corner, and I want to explain why this is the right corner for density in the city. I understand that height and traffic has consistently been the neighborhood's concern, and again, I want to thank the neighbors and the residents for coming out to speak their mind. We'll hear them later on. Done a lot of work over the years trying to address these concerns. But Sunrise, the intersection of Sunrise and University Drive is one of the busiest intersections in all of Plantation. We have 95,000 cars a day that traverse the intersection, and this is per the FDOT 2024 traffic counts. History of the project. So we purchased the shopping center parcel. It's roughly 70,000 square feet of retail in 2021. We purchased the Bank of America parcel in January 2022. We began the shopping center facade remodel in July of 23. First reading for rezoning on the land use plan amendment was approved in October of 2023 at the city council. In April of 2025, we were approved this year the rezoning and the land use at second reading, and we just completed the facade remodel for the shopping center and are commencing the site work. Today we're here for the site plan. This was the shopping center when we first purchased it. You'll see on the north, it was just a vacant land, I mean on the south, excuse me, just vacant land. That's what's now the Lena Plantation. This is what's there today. We've put about $4 million into the shopping center and are now starting, we'll start working on the site conditions and improving the drainage of the center, the landscaping of the center, and the asphalt of the center, which in our mind at least was phase one for this 10.4 acre project on this very important corner within the city. These are the current conditions of the Bank of America branch. This was originally built as a headquarters for Broward Bank, I believe. It's roughly 19,000 square feet. Bank of America occupies the ground floor. I mean, they don't need the space, hence why we're here seeking to build a mini branch. This is a rendering of what we're proposing. So when we originally looked at this corner, I mean, we saw an opportunity to refurbish what was there and enhance it, make it better to modern day. You know, this part of the city was built out 40 years ago over the last 30, 40 years. As you know, over the last five years, primarily since COVID, the demand for, forget plantation, but all of Florida is incredible. We have people moving here from all over the country, internationally, and the demand does not stop. The issue that we have is we in South Florida are land constrained. This is not Orlando where you can build a new neighborhood on the, you know, any of the outer edges of it. We have the Everglades on one side and the ocean on the other. So with more people coming in, there's nowhere to go but up. And that's why you see all these apartments, not only in plantation, but all throughout the different cities, municipalities, counties of South Florida being built because the demand is there. Just another rendering of the improvements for the 10, 10 and a half, roughly 10 and a half acres that are partially complete and we are seeking approval to complete now. So as for the development program, for the site plan, we initially had a different iteration of this that was a lot bulkier building. It was a six-story building originally and it incorporated a lot larger portion of the site. After we were successful with our first reading for the land use and rezoning, we started looking at the project and it didn't make as much sense because it wasn't creating cohesiveness with the shopping center as originally intended. We, if you look now, we were very thoughtful in how we did it. We opened up access on the eastern side of the property to the shopping center parcel. We're taking advantage of the rear entrance of the shopping center parcel now to be able to encapsulate all of the trips, throughout the entire project and we're seeking to use that entrance on the rear of the shopping center to serve both the shopping center and the apartment building. It's not shown here, but we have already created a breezeway through the elbow of the shopping center. So if you go back, the shopping center is a large L. So right there in the elbow of the shopping center, we got rid of what was leasable space and it's open now so that way you can walk back and forth. And in doing this, it creates not only the vehicular but pedestrian connectivity and it creates a true mixed-use project incorporating what we're proposing now with the apartment building, the new bank, which will be replacing the old bank, and the existing shopping center. This helps us with traffic because this project now, as proposed, on the north side there, northeastern side, if you would, you have access to the entire front of the shopping center as well as through the south side of the east side of the property. So in total, there's five access points to choose from on this entire project and they're all connected to Sunrise Boulevard for direct ingress or egress and four access points to university. In this plan as well, one of the things that was bothering me was in the prior plan, a lot of the landscape along the west side of the property, and these are mature oak trees that have been there just as long as these existing buildings have been there, 30, 40 years. I mean, these are huge trees. We're preserving the majority of those now along the west side. That creates a better resident experience, a better neighborhood feel for everybody that currently resides within the area. We also, instead of doing 90-degree parks along the road, we kept the parallel parking spaces and with pervious pavers, we did this to mimic American Express Way in Midtown, which has turned out phenomenal, and we're trying to give that same town center feel, if you would, for the project. The rear setback, so as I mentioned before, the previous iteration of the project was a lot bulkier, so it did not have this internal connectivity, and it was a lot closer to 17th Court on the south side. So by comparison, Lena on the opposite side has about 80 feet from their property line to their building. We are proposing 53 feet, however, the big difference is it's all landscaped, and it acts as a retention area, but it's fully landscaped, so we did that to create a better buffer from the residences and the neighbors in the rear rather than, you know, the apartment building that's across the street that, you know, it's 80 feet of a buffer, however, it's all, the majority of it is pavement. And I'll say also with the setback, this is a little misleading because it states it's a seven-story parking garage, which rightfully so, there's seven floors for vehicles to park on, but it's effectively six stories high in the rear. The vehicles just park on the roof, so that's how it's determined to be seven stories. The parapet is not that high, and you don't get an additional full additional story, so I, in the rear of the building it's six stories in the parking garage section, in the front is where it steps up to eight stories. The way that, excuse me, yes, just to clarify, so looking at the parking garage right there, it's going to be roughly 65 feet or so. Yes. The apartments that are sitting just to the west of it, that string you're saying is likewise going to be at 65 feet, it's only the front of the building that's going to have the eight stories? Correct, and I'll point out real fast on the screen where it steps up. Thank you. So the backside that fronts Lena, in essence, matches the height of that building Lena. Correct. And then it goes taller towards the middle of the lot. Correct, and we did this thoughtfully. The code requires a one and a half times the building height for your setback, and that's measured from the point of height of the building. So the eight story portion of the building is roughly 155 feet from the property line, and the height of it is, let me see, I think I have it here. There we go. So it's 81 feet where it first steps up to the eight stories, and that's set back 155 feet from the rear property line. Now that there's a little further up ahead, a little further north, it goes up to 93 feet, and that's just an architectural design feature for the roof. That's set back 188 feet from the property line. So, again, you know, we buffered the 17th core with landscaping as much as we could. Then we have the six story portion of it, and from there on it steps up. So the bank branch is significantly smaller than what they have, 6303 square feet approximately, and it will have in the future a Merrill Lynch office. This is a grand lease with Bank of America, so we build out the infrastructure and we deliver all of the site development, if you would. They build their building, and they'll have control over this building via our lease for, you know, the next 80 years as they currently do. The drive-thru is not an actual drive-thru. It's just covered drive-thru ATMs. There will be two drive-thru ATMs. The entire Bank of America system no longer offers drive-thru teller service. It's only ATMs nowadays. And the way that this will happen is the existing bank branch will stay in operation while we build the new branch. This was designed to allow enough space for that to occur. And that will be the phase one of this project. Phase two will then be the apartment building. So while we started this in 2021, we, if assuming that the project is approved and we move forward, this will not begin construction until roughly 2027 and be completed until 2030. So therein lies the long-term planning effect of how these projects operate. So the buildings, as mentioned, 29% studios, 33% one-bedrooms, 33% two-bedrooms, and 5% three-bedrooms. This unit mix was revised once we had the operating information for the Lena project behind us. The three-bedrooms there, they only have roughly 5% three-bedrooms as well, I believe. They do not lease well. They struggle with. They're getting a lot of young professionals in this area. A lot of young people are coming in and just regular, again, people, roommates, they get a lot of people from Nova University. So the two-bedrooms lease well, but they still struggle with some, which is why we decided to incorporate more studios on one-bedrooms because they are bursting at the seams with their one-bedrooms. 445 spaces are within the garage. 90 of those will be EV-capable. At the beginning, we'll roll out whatever staff mentioned was the amount of EV parking spaces, but 90 of them will be EV-capable because this is happening. It's in front of us now, and we need to have that within all of our buildings these days. 51 surface-level parking spaces. There's the height for the six-story parking garage and the wrap units. So it's 58 feet, four inches to the top of the six-story, 63 feet, 10 inches to the top of the parapet at the parking garage. If I'm not mistaken, Lena's elevation at the highest point is roughly 75 feet if I'm not mistaken. This is a rendering of the rear of the building. As you'll see there, this is meant to clearly demonstrate the step-up in the elevation in the rear. And then this is the front of the apartment building. So I began working with the Lauderdale West Board roughly in 2022 when we were proposing this project. At that point, Lena had just gone under construction and we were just starting to experience the inflow of residents from outside of Florida to this area. So there was a big burden on the local neighborhoods. In my conversations with previous boards, they always wanted speed tables and it was an issue with fire. Thankfully, and I want to thank Leonard and Samira for their work, they've done great work in putting this plan together and this is a deliverable plan to be able to calm the traffic throughout their neighborhood. So as you'll see, it's a total of two speed radar signs along 17th Court. this is more for our project and any, you know, anybody that's speeding along that 17th Court way, but throughout Lauderdale West Way, Lauderdale West Drive, excuse me, a total of eight illuminated stop signs rather than just the, you know, regular stop signs. So we'll be switching those out. Two proposed speed table locations and further, there are two radar signs and this is just north of their clubhouse and this is in addition to the three existing speed cushions that are there. So we're hoping that with the speed table locations or additions, excuse me, it creates a more sufficient impact. So Plantation Square, that's where our project is. So we have agreed to contribute $119,143 towards these improvements. I think this is very important when it comes, you know, when we, and I'm here with you all, I mean, we're all urban planning and the decisions that we make today are affecting the city for the next 30 years. So we have to look at what's coming within the next five, 10, 15 years. This is the Broward County Transit Primo Corridor. This is no longer just a pie in the sky, something that is just conceptualized and may never happen. This, the, the Primo Corridors and this, all of this was approved by Broward County and Broward County Council unanimously in June of 2023. And in 2018, they began the one penny surtax for this project. Currently, there's about $2.8 billion allocated already for this and a lot of it is already in the works. This will give you an idea of what makes this intersection so important. So if you see the blue lines are bus rapid transit. Bus rapid transit is light rail, light, if you would. It doesn't operate on, on, on lines, but it's a more efficient bus system. They just, they just implemented it throughout Miami-Dade County. It's working phenomenally. And there's still further implementations that are to be done throughout the course of the year as it fully rolls out. But this is, this is what's required. And the pink lines, which is more important, is the light rail transit. This site benefits not only from the Broward Boulevard light rail transit, which traverses Sunrise Boulevard and then, you know, it goes down to Broward Boulevard a little further. I think it's at around 441 goes straight to downtown. And so this loop, this takes you from downtown and loops you through about Sawgrass Mills and, you know, a little bit north and then further back, right? So it's one large loop. That's right in front of our property. And the blue line going south right by the arrow, that's a university drive bus rapid transit. So, again, it's, it's an intersection with 95,000 vehicles a day. You have the rapid transit that's coming and it's, there's already funding in place for it and this is actively being worked on. So all estimates, these are the time frames. This is the Broward Boulevard light rail transit and the University Drive BRT. There's also the Sunrise Boulevard BRT that's at the bottom. So not only, we have two bus rapid transits right at the intersection plus the light rail. What better way to get traffic off of the street and get people downtown than this? So, this is, from a planning perspective, you want people to live on Main and Main. This, this is where it makes most sense to put your, to allocate your density, to put, to have your height. And by the way, as it relates to height, in this area, once you go above eight stories, it is not, no longer economically feasible to build. Your foundations get larger, your fire code, everything is, is more expensive. That's now considered a high rise and you're, you're held to a more stringent standard under Florida building code. Knowing the economics of this project, there's zero chance that anybody ever proposes a building, well not ever, excuse me, at least in the near future, a high rise here. It's just, it's not going to happen. It's not economically feasible. The rents are not there. This is not Fort Lauderdale. So this area is capped at eight stories. There's an approval for another project just west of us. The, I forgot what it's called, but that's, that was approved at eight stories. Plantation City Center. There we go. A little bit further on why this is the right location for this height, for the density. So this is everything that we have around us and I'm going to get a little annoying now and just rattle off a bunch of names because everybody in the audience, myself included, everybody here on this board, probably drive to a lot of these retailers. So in the area we have TD Bank, we have Chase Bank, we have Bank of America. This is all walking distance from our property. Elegant Beauty Supplies, Ross, Bells, Five Below, Dollar Tree, Publix, Walmart Neighborhood Market, Planet Fitness. Directly next to us you have Springs Denwell Plantation, Hematology Consultants, Oncology Consultants, Gastroenterologists, another, three other dentists, Conviva Medical Center, you know, within our property, Gastro Health, another dentist, Walgreens, CVS, Japan Inn, Almatour, these are restaurants, Chipotle, Panda Express, Chick-fil-A, First Watch, Just Salad, Wingstop, Smoothie King, Starbucks, La Granja, Vicki Bakery, Domino's Pizza, Hungry Howie's, and those are all the restaurants that are around us, Denny's, you have Al Samam on the tour from the gas station, you have 7-Eleven on our corner, there's connectivity through our project too, and then extra space storage on the north, Plantation Extra Storage to the west, GNC Vitamin Shop, and in addition, you have a million square feet of office at this park right here that is, I believe, 85% occupied, if I'm not mistaken, so you have 850,000 square feet of buildings that have employees, and directly across the street, all we have is 300 apartments, I mean, I forgot what the metric is, I think it's 20, I forgot it, 20 square feet per employee, so I mean, if you do the math, there's, those are all trips that are coming to this intersection every day, or maybe a few times a week at least, nowadays, but this is where you want your density, on main and main, now if you put these apartment buildings inside of a residential neighborhood, as some have previously been approved in Midtown and whatnot, now you're creating traffic, now you're creating people coming in and out and whatnot, but this is main and main, people are taking Sunrise, people are taking University Drive, and pretty soon within the next 10 years, like I said, this project will not be occupied, ready for occupancy until about 2030, the bus rapid transit and the light rail is scheduled to be finished by 2035, that's only five years out after our project, this is the affordability, this was back in 2023 when I originally proposed this, this still stands today, so it's self-explanatory, but it's very hard for anybody to purchase a starter home today given where the cost of construction is for all of these, you know, single family homes or townhomes or whatnot, it's a lot easier for anybody to rent, these are the economics to rent versus purchasing a two-bedroom condo if you would, monthly rent for a two-bedroom is $2,900, cost of your mortgage for a two-bedroom condo, $4,300, and you'll have to put a 10% down payment of roughly, plus closing costs of $54,000. It's just, this is why there's so much demand for rental housing, which is driven by the demand for South Florida and Florida in general. Now, the more important part of our project is the affordability. I mean, this is a huge public benefit and why we increased to the eight stories so we can provide this. So our land use approvals and our zoning approvals have a covenant, we have a covenant for 20% of our units restricted to renters that earn no greater than 120% of the area median income. In Broward, 100% of the area median income is roughly $88,000. HUD, Department of Housing and Urban Development publishes once per year. The rents, the income levels for each of those trenches go as low as 20%, as high as 140% of the area median income. And the rents that one is allowed to charge for their studio apartments or one bedrooms, two bedrooms, so on and so forth. I'm proposing here to have 25% of the units, so 77% of the 307 to be restricted to those earning 80% of the median income instead of the 120. To give you an idea, the 120% area median income rent these days for a one bedroom in Broward County because it's done by county throughout the entire U.S. is roughly $2,500. I mean, I don't know about you all, but that's not affordable. If you're a college student or if you're working a $60,000, $70,000 a year job, you can't afford that. It's $30,000 a year in rent. It's more than half your paycheck. So this is why we, you know, when I started looking into this, the will of the council when we originally sought, when we were originally approved for the land use and the zoning at first reading was they wanted affordability. So I went down the rabbit hole and I started really digging into this because we're not affordable guys and, you know, this is not subsidized housing, if you would. This is just rent restrictions for what I call lowercase affordable. This is more workforce housing, in my opinion, because a studio would still rent for $1,600 a month, which, you know, is $600 lower than a market rate studio, but there's a real need for this. This is a snippet from the 10-year affordable housing master plan that Broward County had done in March of 2024. The city of plantation has a shortage of 4,000 affordable units. There's not one project being built that's a mixed income building like I'm proposing here. Everything else is, you know, the city of plantation code has, quote-unquote, affordable housing at 120%. It's not really affordable. It just, it caps the increase that you're allowed to, you know, put in the, in your rents annually. It doesn't really provide a public benefit. And then, so I started looking at the different municipal departments and what are the needs? I mean, all of the public, all of this is public information, all of the government salaries. So, Broward County Public Schools, I think was, it was staggering when I saw there's 24,288 employees throughout all of Broward County. 17,088 of them would qualify for these units. That's 70%. Those are, those are the people that are educating our children. Plantation also has a volunteer fire department. The property taxes for everybody that owns a single family home here are low because of this. If, they're all, maybe not low, but lower than they otherwise would be. Where, where are these people going to live if these are young guys that just got their license and are, you know, hanging on, waiting until they get a job or, you know, or whatnot, where are they going to live? Now, 77 units isn't going to make a dent in the need. Far from it. But it certainly helps. It's a public benefit. And, and that's the point. So I think this is, this is something that it's, it's, it's a real need and this is the, I think the right location for it because you're right on main and main. This is not, again, this is not subsidized housing. This is more workforce housing for the people that are serving us daily, serving our basic needs. Right? I have a question. Yes, sir. I know you said it's, it's not subsidized housing. So, but are you proposing like an affordability period for those units? Is there like a, a minimum amount of time that you're going to provide those rent restrictions? 30 years. 30 years. Okay. Yes, sir. And, and I'll, I'll expand on that. Subsidized housing, meaning low income housing tax credits, that, that's what I refer to as subsidized housing. This is not that. Oh, look, I'm done. I'll take any questions. Thank you all for listening to my babble. Do we have any questions from the days? I don't have any questions, but I do want to make a Jennings disclosure that I have met with the applicant previously. So I, I do want to clarify a couple things. You said for the record that you'll incorporate all staff recommendations with regards to exterior decorations, materials, designs. That is correct? Yes, sir. On all sides, correct? Yes, sir. All right. I guess technically for staff only because in your presentation the east side garage wall, painted, decorated, murreled, whatever it may be, what is the actual plan for that wall? I have to work with staff on that, but, George. George O'Brien with MSA Architects. What we're thinking of doing on the garage wall it's going to be a screen. It could be a screen that can have some sort of graphic or artwork or it could be a solid color as well. Okay, so is this display board one of yours? Yes. Okay, so the top left-hand corner there is a garage that has a screen. Correct, and that screen in particular is just kind of a basic screen. It doesn't really have any graphics or color to it. that's something that we'll finalize with the manufacturer and further we develop the plans. Got it. And staff, do we have any recommendations as a city with regards to that screen? Because there aren't that many articulations on the garage to make it as visually intriguing as the rest. So, I guess, what would our request be for that garage wall so that it doesn't look like a gray cube? Can I? Please, if you're from the art tech side. Yeah, because that's a good question because I know one of the comments that we received was that the screen cannot have any graphics and I'm interpreting that as you can't have any things that look maybe like advertisement or such, because we have the ability with these screens to provide, again, artwork or colors or patterns that will jive with the rest of the building and that's the intent. Personally, that's something that I think we would like to do. We wouldn't want it just a solid gray color. Okay. So, my recommendation would be since you all are open to staff recommendations with regards to architectural adornments, that that be an area that you focus on because if you're going to grant the staff requests on the other residential sides of the building, if we can come up with something that would minimize the blockiness of the garage, I think that would be a net benefit for the city. And that's, we're also including the 10% of the class one material on that facade so that's also coming, you know, along with the whatever we decide to do with the screens. Just as a, chatting between friends, what was the original reason for requesting a waiver on that and not just conforming with code on something like design? It was a cost. I mean, since we're giving the 80% units, it's balancing the cost. All right. At least that's an honest answer. Thank you. Got that one, got that one. That's all I have. Oh, yeah. Sorry, Josh. Can you just walk me through the landscape waiver request because I noticed there was a reduction of shade trees from what the code requires and given that we're talking about walkability here and I don't know if you've been outside lately but so I was just wondering if it was if it was if it's because they don't fit or I don't know what the reason is but just try. So I'll start with it is a tight site so there's not as much landscape areas but we again I'll let Eric take it. Name and address. Yeah. Eric Schofield Fort Lauderdale 1427 Northwest Terrace and I'm with Craven Thompson and landscape architects on the project. So yes so this along the street we are required street trees and obviously with the existing condition we it's a sidewalk in the right of way so thus we must request a waiver for the street trees there and as Marco stated we have you know a limited site pedestrian zones required and on the east side we're rather constrained with the easements and the setbacks and whatnot the building being quite close to the property line we and the spacing required of the trees we we must you know have yes I'll add to that on the east side I know that we do have some existing trees that are on the east side and also on the on the south side the west side the east side we most of the trees have to go due to the the power line right yeah so that's what I'm getting at there's oh great yeah so along the east side of the building there's power lines that run throughout all of that and that's on the property line so the trees that are currently there today unfortunately we have to get rid of them because it's a safety condition same thing along the rear of the property for the rear the rear landscape there's a lot of existing trees there but we do have to depress that for some dry detention that we are trying to replace with cypress trees and whatnot we actually are keeping the street trees in the right of way on the south side so we're going to work with with the grading and make sure we can maintain those but along the west side we did keep most of those large existing trees and I think that's a benefit to the site but the zero tree I mean that's right right there so it's basically due to you know in order to get parking in there we obviously you can see a standard bank layout you you cannot have trees on the west side of it I mean it's just due to the site constraints in order to have parking it's like you either have trees or you have parking in the reduced grassy areas and I'm losing the name of it but one of the waivers requests the medians to shrink down to like 6 and 8.4 feet yes those are right in front of the bank there is there any way with root vaults to put trees into that space so the roots can spread underneath the asphalt we could do per staff recommendation structural soil if there's a sidewalk nearby however you cannot do that under a parking space but we're certainly receptive to that I know that Landscape did request we reduce the canopy the size of the we were speccing high rise live oaks and a lot of those and he wanted us to use a medium sized tree which would trigger another waiver however we would like to see if we could work with him to provide still provide those large canopy trees by utilizing structural soil as allowed by code staff for the record inwardly brown environmental landscape to answer your question the let me create an area on structural soil we would not approve structural soil but we would offer the opportunity to engage with root vaults so the medium trees that we would want in those deficient islands could be larger trees with the large trees in the islands within the root vault adjacent to the parking cells so we could work with them to propose that but that would increase the canopy this one section I did want to mention right here if they change the approach of that sidewalk that's in between the interior island they can maximize that green space and have a larger tree instead of having a waiver we have no issue with that we can increase if that's something that I guess here's the thing if that's something that would allow for more shade and also doesn't present insurmountable engineering challenges and you're willing I would be in favor of that because again people are going to be walking in there and just aesthetically speaking more of that well-maintained tree is better and if there's a technology out there that permits us to have a rooting tree like a root vault I'd prefer that because you know asphalt is hot the area so those orange delineations are the opportunity for the root vault so they're going to adjacent parking stalls to maximize the subgrade volume of soil so those trees could be large and if you all are happy with that and it can work we'll work within the we'll work within the way to implement whatever kind of trees you see agreeable to you awesome Josh anything else Matt this is more for the city attorney I was just curious with genuine disclosures is that needed for the board or is that limited to the city council members it's needed for the board and quasi-judicial matters this is not one of those but if you want to make a disclosure just to clear the air yeah Jennings disclosure if it was possible I did speak to the developer but won't let it impact my vote other questions for the days all right we got people in the room I assume you all want to speak so here's the rules it's going to be limited to three minutes so when you come up please state your name your address if you want to speak for a full three minutes you're welcome to if you can make your point in less time than that it'd be appreciated but you have a constitutional right to three minutes or at least a city right I say I'm not even that technically speaking fine I'm allowing you to do it so please for those who want to speak name address stick to three minutes thank you Steve Rose 1062 Northwest 88th Avenue Lauderdale West appreciate all of the work obviously if we could get I don't know that we can do it in the time the exits to 17th Court okay when you come out you're allowed both directions one of the directions leads you right into where the premier facility is and then if you make a left you're straight into Lauderdale West where you're proposing more stop signs and road bumps whatever it seems that that's really the only way to get to Cleary to get to Pine Island is through Lauderdale West because you can't make a left out onto Sunrise so you're stuck coming through Lauderdale West to Cleary to get to Pine Island Road which is another you've got University obviously on one side you've got Pine Island on the other both are the major two major thoroughfares that's something we're concerned about even with the stop signs and we already have enough speed you know those bumps are really nice in some ways but in some cases they do nothing more than give you a back rub so that's that's one thing second thing I need to study more I do not understand the four exits onto University and I think that's something that I just need to see because I was just in the shopping center and I'm confuzled about that I think that the other part is the parking you need X number of spaces but you've decreased it by like 130 so I'm really confused where all of those people are going to go lastly you're right across the street from Publix but there's no way to reach Publix without getting in the middle of Sunrise Boulevard that might be something that you all would want to look at with respect to some sort of cross to there or I think you're going to end up with some problems of people getting hurt to come across thank you thank you I appreciate the applause but unless that's a signal that you all agree with him and he's a spokesperson oh okay great any other questions from the chamber all right make your hand forward you can come up the applicant is asking for 10 waivers there are waivers for the building height from 6 to 8 stones waivers for smaller minimum unit floor sizes so they can add extra units these smaller sizes remind me of how much smaller food packages have become without raising the prices there is a waiver for parking spaces from the required 679 to 540 with the lame excuse of encouraging the use of public transportation on the bus road and buses don't always come on time or go where you need to go without connecting to another bus if you need to be on time for your job you cannot depend on public transportation residents are not going to give up their cars I know how much plantation loves trees and there is a waiver for zero trees the waiver for setbacks and FLR that's floor area racial space will reduce open spaces the applicant's response on page 437 says the circumstances of the property would render conformity with the strict requirements of the code burdensome if we don't have a code we will need a planning and zoning department this project increases population density and traffic it does not preserve the character of the neighborhood which consists of two store park village condos commercial buildings and veterans park looking at a parking route will not be a pleasant view to the neighboring residents let's talk about traffic if you're driving north on university and you want to turn on 17th court there is no signal it's a very dangerous turn if you're driving north on pine island instead of turning on sunrise drivers will rather turn on a clean and go up lauderdale west drive to 17th court or they will continue on to pine to 17th street turn right and continue to lauderdale west drive and run to 17th court in order to avoid traffic lights and congestion lauderdale west is a senior community and traffic is a hazard to its residents I hope that you will not approve this thank you again if you would limit the applause any other comments from this if you want to just come on up when the other person clears you're welcome to walk forward just state name address and stick to three minutes good evening I'm Gene Mastro 16 it's 1621 northwest 85 terrace I'm in Lauderdale west I'm a new resident been there less than a year looking at these plans that you have here you're doing nothing but forcing more activity more congesting to our neighborhood when you stop and analyze what you have there the egress going on to sunrise and university everything is a right-hand turn getting to 17th court makes it a nice viable alternate way of getting out of that rush that mad rush that forces you to go down the street and make U-turns well if you get into Lauderdale west you could obviously go up to 17th street to Pine Island go all the way through to Cleary Road you've got all kinds of options people are going to discover that very readily stop signs are not an answer to it having more people with more units being built over there it's going to make them obvious that's going to be the way to do it I just don't see where something like this is going to be adapted as a plus to our community when you look at the beautification of the project it's stunning it's almost mesmerizing but how practical it is with the inner workings of the systems that are already there to say I'm going to let a couple people in and out and buses are going to come that doesn't change the egress to these properties everything's a right hand turn the option is 17 court which sits in our backyard that from 17 court once again they're going to go to Cleary they're going to go to Pine Island that's more people discovering our neighborhood over there and we don't need that so I strongly suggest that you recant on whatever's been put on the table regarding this and think of the sanctity of the community we have in place yes we can use some beautification over there at that corner it needs some help but when you're adding this many people to the neighborhood there's going to be at least 300 cars there who's kidding who you're not changing any egress at all you're just going to force people to discover what's there and another way to go about it and all you're doing is imposing more more what's the word I'm looking for more traffic more I want to say consistency that's not it but more traffic to the community Mr. Rose pointed it out very eloquently he was very nice about it I second what he suggested of course this lady she did her homework I'm just looking at it as a homeowner I'm a realtor I'm moving to the neighborhood and you people want to make this Miami you got enough right there underneath your nose right now and if you take pride in your county and what we've got going over here which is a pleasant the only complaint I have about Broward County is that your lights are a little bit too long geez you can eat a lunch at these lights but the traffic moves now you're taking advantage of it you're dumping on what we have now don't do it thank you alright I give up with the whole clapping thing any other comments from the chamber alright public comments are closed any other questions or concerns from the dais let me state that I'm not happy with the height of the building but the traffic thing is the whole thing in a traffic study it states that there'll be 112 additional trips in the AM rush hour with 302 or so apartments how do you come up with 112 trips and there's less trips at night coming back than there were going out I've never believed traffic studies before a project is built Derek Tedeschi Kim Lehorn 8201 South Peters Road Suite 2200 so the trips that are generated are based on IT's trip generation manual they provide equations and your comment about the difference in the trips that are generated in the morning versus the PM typically in the PM we're expecting a lot more internal capture in the afternoon meaning a lot of the trips are likely to be captured on site more so in the afternoon than they are in the morning and so that's why you see that sort of reduction and that's because of the cross-access that the project is now proposing allowing people that live in the residences to use the adjacent shopping center so I hope that answers the question yeah I still don't believe it but the question I have for the petitioner is before you actually start any project would it be possible to implement the traffic calming devices on Lorda Del West Drive before you even start this project yes sir so our contribution will be at building permit so at that and building permit it's this is a 24 to 30 month schedule for the construction so our contribution is done at building permit so that's number one and I'll make a comment on the traffic study so one of the things that I am going to do prior to the next hearing is I'm going to have the engineer that did the traffic study for LENA do the trip generation to see what that exactly is generating and what roadways that is currently using as compared to what he previously did and projected and once we can compare both of those and I'll be happy to discuss that with everybody here once that study is done and as well as you know share it openly I think that will shine light on our traffic study give you a better idea yes sir okay all right again Leonard I just want to say something about your question about the traffic coming for the plane that you see we're not waiting for the project to be built in order to implement the stuff that you see on the screen we are actually right now implementing all the weather signs all the stop signs limited stop signs everything actually today I swing by on 17th court the two speed weather signs are actually they placing them right now same thing for all the traffic calming items that you see on the screen they're going to be implemented regardless if this project is coming or not okay before you go in regards to traffic calming the ones that are down on 17th street right they've got to be replaced they put them down where a car can go between the two of them and never touch the speed bubble right that's a good point and they are being replaced with speed tables these were traffic cushions but they are being replaced with speed tables and we're utilizing the asphalt one instead of the rubber ones that was my next question yes because we met with fire department and fire department agreed to have asphalt ones instead of these because the asphalt one per county meet the engineer to speed the engineering standard details so okay thank you anything else oh if I may just want to make a comment just because there's been a lot of comments of oh if they're not going to drive how are they going to get to x to y well I can speak from experience I live in the manor which is on 82nd avenue and American Expressway that's just south of clary boulevard I'm not part of the whole community but I am going around the community so if I'm going to that plant fitness I'm going up 82nd going on clary going on pine island and then going on sunrise and then turning into that intersection once I'm done I'm going back onto sunrise sometimes making that u-turn that one intersection there heading on to university maybe stopping at that 7-11 or going to Chipotle for some food and then heading down university before I get to clary again and I'm just making all that point that was me making a bunch of trips if I'm living somewhere like there and I hate driving and I'm going to plant fitness to work out instead of doing all those trips going on all those roads I'm just going to do a running as a warm up across sunrise to get to that plant fitness maybe stop off at the public's afterwards carry some groceries back not everyone's going to do that of course but this is not all housing is for everybody you know this is people that are renting people that are younger and that's kind of like how it drives with the existing community this is how it helps take away traffic off the road it's not just like a developer's like talking point this is like how I live my life and how other people that are my age either they live this life already or they want to but they can't because it's too unaffordable for the housing so something like this for the project where there's like 25% affordable housing or whatever that's the solution there those are people that can save a lot of money by not doing as many car trips not really public comments are closed you're welcome to talk with them after the fact though do you have a motion on this motion to approve subject to staff comments second we have a motion in a second please call the roll Mr. Spear no Mr. Stahl if the buildings were lower I'd say yes but my answer is no Mr. McIntosh yes Mr. Korman yes Mr. Freeman yes Mr. Goldstein yes Mr. Della Grange yes thank you motion passed congratulations to the applicant do we have any other business from staff before we close before you move much further just and you may have said this this item still needs to go to the city council for everybody just make sure you all know that two things just a reminder that we have another meeting special meeting next week a week from today two items and also if you haven't filed your form yet from the state the real deadline is September 1st but do it as soon as you can because I think the actual deadline according to the state was July 1st yes that's what they say but take care of it I live my life according to government rules so if they tell me the first I'm going to do it by the first it's due 7-1 what was that it's due 7-1 it is due 7-1 you know you have a two month grace period honestly it takes like five minutes so if you haven't done it do it anything else that's it very well this meeting is adjourned at 7.33 I agree