Planning & Zoning Board — Jul 15, 2025

and now i would like to call the city plantation planning and zoning board meeting dated july 15 2025 to order if you would please call the role all right miss denby burger present mr quorman here mr freeman here mr stecker here and mr mcintosh thank you all right as we do have quorum uh first order businesses approval of meeting minutes for those dated june 17th 2025. uh there was one correction that i made clear to the um clerk beforehand it had to do with the paragraph dealing with mr frank carreras's comments in the middle of it there's a reference to herrera it's just a spelling error um so with that correction in mind does anybody have any other corrections or comments about the minutes uh you know you can still vote on me even if you haven't seen it so uh do i have a motion yeah i move approval with corrections listed with the correction thank you is there a second second we have a motion a second please call the roll miss denby burger yes mr corman yes mr freeman yes mr goldstein i'm sorry mr stecker yes thank you oh and mr mcintosh i apologize yes i have you written in i'm sorry um on this particular agenda there are two quasi-judicial items pm25-0025 that was withdrawn and pm25-0041 has been deferred so we are down to other business 2045 comprehensive plan staff if you will okay good evening mr chair members of the board for the record dan holmes planning zoning economic development director um we are on the third uh presentation of the uh comprehensive plan this is uh we're actually gonna just do a quick uh review of the final i think it's five uh elements of the comp plan i have gotten comments uh from uh some of you on the board there's still time if you wish to submit any comments after you look over the the goals objectives and policies so you still have time to submit um and i'll kind of talk about at the end of the presentation uh after tonight where we are in terms of the next steps and you know what's what's going to happen uh from this point forward so with that being said um i'm not going to go back into i know we've done this a couple of times i'm sure by now you guys uh kind of understand uh all of this uh stuff what the plan is why it's important what we've done to it to sort of make some changes so we'll kind of move through that uh pretty quickly uh and just to give you uh just to kind of go over so to date we've uh reviewed basically the future land use element uh with you we've looked at the transportation and the mobility element we've talked about the housing element the uh sanitary sewer sub element uh in the plan the potable water sub element the storm water and drainage uh sub element and the solid waste sub element and then at the the last meeting we also talked about the conservation and the recreation uh and open space uh elements as well so we are uh going to kind of start tonight with uh intergovernmental coordination uh element so the intergovernmental coordination element is pretty much the it's a required element within the plan and it's the element that kind of formalizes uh how we are going to coordinate with other uh governmental entities in the process of undertaking uh our local planning and other governmental uh activities uh so it kind of talks about you know those county agencies that we interact with the uh state agencies uh that that we interact with as well uh and and even on some levels uh with regard to agencies like fdot and hud and other agencies we also even interact uh on more limited bases with the uh with the federal government as well so that's kind of uh what's pretty much laid out uh and the purpose of the intergovernmental element so in and putting the intergovernmental element together one of the things that we kind of go through and we look at uh several types of data or information uh to help us put the to put the uh uh this element and the goals objectives and policies within the element together so the first thing again we kind of take a look at those adjacent uh government agencies pretty much on the local or county level that we interact with and we make sure that we kind of take a look at the type of relationship that we have with with those entities and those things that are necessary to do proper coordination uh between those uh entities so at the local level pretty much we're interacting with uh local cities or surrounding cities like particularly sunrise the town of davie laura hill uh and fort lauderdale which i forgot to put up there but fort lauderdale as well those are our adjacent uh cities uh and then as you know we we of course interact with broward county and then there's uh the old plantation water control district and paid which are some of the local entities that that we interact with um pretty frequently and that are influenced by the policies in our plan so we make sure that we identify what those relationships are and the types of coordination that's necessary between those agencies we then take a look at regional and and state agencies so at the regional level we are interacting with agencies like the south florida regional planning council the south florida water management district we are interacting although it's it's local as well uh but they kind of deal with some regional issues as well uh the mpo which is transportation plans and then any other relevant uh you know state statutes that we have to look at i just put live local up there just as an example and we have to make sure that policies that we put in the plan that we're coordinating uh with those agencies and we identify what those uh what what the coordination steps are the requirements are uh we look at the types of communication and data sharing that's necessary between the agencies so that we're maintaining open communication channels with nearby municipalities and agencies just as an example with the school board we have to submit uh anytime we get certain development activity in we have to submit reports to the school board we also do some annual reports to the broward county planning council would have you that's necessary to assist those agencies and doing their job sometimes there's mutual aid agreements that the city has with uh other fire departments or police departments uh as well so we kind of take a look at all that information uh as well and make sure that we've captured what those relationships are and then also because there are times when local governments disagree with one another uh we have some policies in there that kind of look at uh conflict resolution um and there's steps in there the the uh planning council and and broward county has some steps that uh if there's some land use issues or disputes that the county uh would step in and kind of take a look at as well and then there's the steps for uh the local entities to sit down we're kind of working some things out now we're having a dispute with the school board over some local mitigation uh issues and uh the committee was formed and so we're kind of going through some steps working uh some things out uh with a couple of uh uh cities that are impacted by that policy so basically that's kind of the the key data and considerations that we take a look at when we put the uh intergovernmental coordination element uh together um and just these are just some uh sample policies for example that you'll you'll find within uh the intergovernmental coordination element like for example uh policy ic 10.01.1 just says that uh to ensure alignment with state planning objectives the city shall engage in ongoing communication and monitoring efforts with agencies governed by the community planning act chapter 163 utilizing city council approved strategies and tools so for example once we actually approve and update the comprehensive plan we're going to have to submit that information uh to the state and they're going to have to review it and make sure that we buy we put in all of the uh the mandatory policies or statutory uh requirements that are in the plan we're going to have to submit the land use element uh to the planning council because they're going to be doing a little checklist of things to make sure we've incorporated uh things as well uh policy ic 10.01.08 to support long-term water resource sustainability city will align its comprehensive plan with the south florida water management's lower east coast regional water supply plan we're actually in the process of updating that plan right now which will be complete i'm talking about a utilities department sometime in in 2026 and we will once that is complete there are some things that we're going to have to go back and update the plan uh to capture some more updated information and again i talked about the mpo there's a technical advisory committee just as an example so there is a policy in there that addresses that south florida regional planning council and i'll touch on that a bit when we get to the resiliency sustainability element uh that we're working with the south florida regional uh climate change uh compact and we just want to make sure that we're kind of coordinating and working uh in tandem with with those agencies uh to to do our part it's a local government so that's pretty much intergovernmental coordination uh element then we have the uh the capital improvements element now the capital improvements element sort of links the comprehensive plan to actual infrastructure projects projects and budgeting so it identifies needed public facilities as we go through there and we identify things that may become over capacity like our roads and things of that sort uh this is the the element where we sort of address those needs uh and again as i said some of the key data and considerations that we take a look at as we put this together we looked at the existing infrastructure inventory and level service uh capacity so we see over capacity or below standards these items are flagged uh for improvements in the five-year plan we know right away that hey these are things that are high priority that we need to get into the capital improvements element so that we can address those deficiencies uh future demand projections so while we're all also looking at what is currently under capacity we try to uh get a little uh heads up as well by looking at population projections level service standards and try to project uh into the future over that 20-year planning horizon what other items may become deficient during that time frame and we try to uh plan accordingly within the uh capital improvements element as well danny i have a question on this one sure um item one and two there the existing image infrastructure inventory and future demand projections in particular with regard to sanitary sewer and areas in the city that are still on septic are those two looked at together so that when you were talking about future demand projections part of it is linked to taking those areas off sanitary sewer that that is one of the goals uh uh in that element as well um and and uh you'll notice uh you guys will get a copy of of that uh the data uh for that as well prior to your final adoption of this so you'll be able to kind of look at uh basically some of the things that we've uh kind of worked out with utilities department uh you'll notice in that for example that the soils uh within the city are not really suitable for um you know septic tanks so we are trying to take steps to ensure that we can move people who are on those septic tank systems uh to connect to sewage i guess to that point then uh that it goes over to number three the the funding issues are are we looking at that for example east plantation and the acres off of a five-year timeline a 10-year timeline or is there no timeline certain for that it's just part of the plan that we have to account for it that um as i said we have to sort of there and there is within the uh the plan there is one policy that sort of addresses how we prioritize uh issues so it depends on the other capital needs in terms of how that item might be prioritized um because technically we want them off of the septic system but it's functioning right now that may not get a high priority for us to take a look at in terms of connectivity that would take those residents uh because it's primarily mostly residents in the plantation acres area yeah yeah and i and i sent you the comment because the big question that is the reflections project in those 12 homes that are on second street that we thought we're going to be at least i did thought we're going to be hooked up to sewer i still don't have an answer as to whether or not they are they aren't um and it would just be adding 12 new homes to a septic system when the plan calls for eventually transitioning away so right it's really like it part of it is that and then part of it is related to antiquated systems and potential for leakage both east and west so absolutely so yeah so i know the utilities department and and i forget that because i know there was a question from a couple of residents with regard to why they were permitted to be placed on septic i know there was some cost factors in terms of the connectivity there and then there were some other county policies which i'm not really a utilities director i turned it over to the utilities directors to sort of respond to that um but it's you know we we recognize it's not the optimal policy but there are there were some uh fiscal constraints in trying to get that that connection taken uh all right thank you um and then again one of the things we try to do as i said we we we have a system where we try to evaluate what gets into that five-year plan everything can't be placed in the five-year plan so over time we just have to try to uh address those urgent needs as quickly as possible so within this element too we kind of uh identify the capital project listing so we identify the listing of all those projects uh from stormwater to utilities uh type projects uh transportation related projects or what have you and then uh we we sort of just look at concurrency and timing data as i just said um you know over uh that that planning horizon uh to try to see what's what's going to become over capacity or not so that those are the things that we take into and the data we take into consideration when we put this plan together and when we develop the the goals objectives and policies that are located within this element and then these are these are just some uh some uh example policies that i just sort of pulled up just to so like the city will require that all capital projects identified in this capital improvement element be supported by financial analysis demonstrating that adequate funding exists to sustain the ongoing maintenance and operational needs of the resulting facilities public facilities required to eliminate existing deficiencies for which the city is financially responsible shall be included in the city's five-year capital city shall refine and revise its impact fee schedule as needed to comply with applicable provisions of the florida statutes and to adequately fund public facilities i can tell you right now uh the planning and zoning department is responsible for assisting the city in updating the uh the impact fee uh ordinance uh so we're in the process right now of completing a study uh to update the uh impact fee schedule because it's kind of old and outdated it's not taking into consideration some of the uh the needs that are emerging particularly and we've recognized within midtown and within gateway with some of the development activity and we're even seeing you know some additional stress on particularly our utilities uh up in the uh sunrise and university uh area as well where we have a significant amount of development taking place so um we are uh kind of taking a look at that but that impact fee study and and hopefully we've we're trying to fast track it as a matter of fact and i'm i'm hoping we can get it to the city council by september um so uh we're trying to move that along and then uh we're practical the city will prioritize the actual construction of off-site improvements over cash payments to ensure timely infrastructure so there's a mechanism where developers can kind of come in and make a uh you know payment to the system to the city uh you'll notice that with some of the projects that are coming in and in some instances they are contributing but in other instances we're requiring them to actually build some of the infrastructure uh and put in place at that time so where we can uh put certain infrastructure in place we would require them to put the the infrastructure uh in place can i ask a quick question about that actually and for the record uh max goldstein i did walk in at 602 i think right after the meeting started um and this is a question for both you dan and for and for quentin um 604 32 my phone said 602 so so the question is there was a recent um scotus ruling i i don't remember the other party but it was sheets uh that discussed the actual like impact fees and like the the idea of a rational nexus of what you can require a developer to contribute to the city in exchange for approval so i want to know if that because number one you have to have a rational nexus both in in the cost proportion to your development and also that it actually relates to your project like we can't require a developer to you know add a bus stop three blocks away necessarily from the project it has to be like actually within the same block of the project so do we need to account for that when we write this policy or can we leave it as is and we just whatever we enforce it we try to follow the scotus ruling so so you're saying two different things so you're talking about an exaction which is a bus stop and you're talking about a fee which is a fee so the impact fee is something that the state has specific requirements for how the city has to go about getting that fee um and there has to be the rational nexus etc um for developmental contributions in aid of development that is something that's a little bit different that's nolan slash dolan progeny which i won't get into all that um so those are two different things i think the second one is a little more of an issue um as far as the bus stop as you're in your example um some of that is is negotiated so it's not a demand by the city which is kind of the terms you're you didn't say demand but that's kind of the the terms in which your question was couched so i don't know if dan and their staff has done that too much ever um without a willing developer um right there's a difference between the negotiation and and the true demand exaction but i was just curious if we needed to have the actual language of the rational nexus in the comp plan go ahead i don't i i we can talk about it i can talk with dan about it but the the law he's gonna have to follow the law um regardless of what the comp plan says right and the comp plan should be consistent with that i don't i we just have to make sure that that's not inconsistent so it doesn't have to say every exact thing that has to happen but it just can't be inconsistent or it won't be you know he can't follow it so yeah so let me go ahead two cents to that um so the the the policies you see here is just is basically just saying that uh so that we are doing our fiscal duty that we should uh refine and revise the impact fee schedule as permitted under the statute now the consultant that we've hired of course is has to follow the exact letter of the law which they are doing we've had some meetings uh basically with every department that particularly has capital uh improvement needs they they really have to identify clearly identify all of those needs so that we can make sure that whatever we're asking for as part of that impact feed it is directly related to the city's needs so there's there's some some uh steps that you know we we are having to jump through and they've made it a little more difficult for local governments as well to update it so we're we're trying to hop through all of those uh you know all of those hoops to make sure we can comply with the statutory requirement and and to that point again you've got my questions on this um but like 11-0-3-0-3 we're practical this is the plan the code is what we have to follow the law is what we have to follow so i guess is there somewhere that defines practical is practical tie goes to the developer prep tie goes to the city who gets to determine that is that something that's done in development review is that something that's done at this level of council level i guess who determines what's practical for prioritizing actual construction for example as opposed to giving a dollar amount so here i think um where we're saying in 0303 we're practical the city will prioritize the actual construction of off-site improvement over cash payments we're basically saying there that our preference would be for us to try to actually get the physical development uh with with some developers that have come in uh for example the lift stations for example is something that they could put in that really is going to uh you know serve in some instances it will serve another project slightly but primarily their project there are other instances where we have uh mains and laterals and stuff that have to be uh updated which are clearly going to serve other developers so in those instances sometimes they're just making a contribution and we're going as other developers come in you know we're going to get that contribution we're even looking at maybe a plan that uh one developer may actually build some of the infrastructure and then we'll have to recoup costs so we it's you know yeah and and i guess for me that what jumped to mind on this one and again it was a code question was the sidewalks on both sides of the street and oh it's just not practical for us right i believe the cost was 85 000 that they quoted in the meeting to say oh it's not practical for us to put on both sides because the code says only one side right so um those are the the kind of code loopholes that i'm i'm hoping will be addressed as this plan moves forward yes thanks okay um so uh next is public schools uh facilities uh element um now this is another uh required element uh within the comprehensive plan and this this element basically the purpose here is just to ensure the appropriate amount of coordination between the uh the broward county school board and all of the local municipalities within broward county uh which uh you know kind of impact uh school planning when we do development we have new students that are coming in so there is a great deal of um of coordination that's required both between the city and the school board so you know the things we look at uh and for the most part most of this data and stuff uh and and the plans that are put together are put together by the school board we are required to basically give them the information and then we're also required that every year once they update uh their uh you know five year district educational facilities plan that as we're doing the uh we you may recall that we do an annual uh update to the capital improvements element we're also incorporating uh the school board data into that element as well because they are updating their five-year plan uh every year as well so most of what you see here looking at the school capacity and expansions and all that stuff that's primarily done by the school board we don't do a lot of that in-house but we do have meetings with the with the school board the planning staff uh and the planning staff of all uh local uh governments uh basically uh so that we can coordinate this this activity and and the other thing that you'll find is uh i've listed some policies here the policies that you see here are not unique to the city of plantation you can go pull uh any uh county uh any other local municipality within the county pull their public school facilities element and it's basically going to mirror uh you know each other because we're all bound by the same uh interlocal uh agreement and we're all incorporate the same uh policies within the plan so if you were to go pull for a lot of those plan or the town of davie you're going to almost find almost verbatim uh the same thing that we have in in our plan so nothing nothing unique uh about our plan with in regard to this but these are but you know you'll just basically find again on an annual basis uh there's anytime we have a certain amount of development in fact uh the gentleman that does that is sitting back here mr lamay that does all the coordination uh with with the school board sending them all the data and stuff so you can tell you how much fun that is uh on an annual basis we also send information which he does as well to the brow county uh planning council uh you know particularly we have to report other information like flex use and other things anytime we've used certain provisions uh within that plan we we have to do that as well neighborhood design element this is not a required element within the plan this is something that we have within our current plan and uh it's going to remain within the plan um basically the purpose of this uh element uh is to basically provide guidelines to preserve and enhance a unique character and quality of the city's various neighborhoods now uh in the current uh plan there are different neighborhoods that are kind of identified by flex zones so we no longer have uh flex zones so we had to change um you know and we were we're going to actually end up doing a map so we no longer refer to the different neighborhoods by by flex zone so if you look in look into the plan we we we you know well like what gateway and uh midtown those are easy to call out but uh one flex zone was uh for example the areas uh in the city east of the florida turnpike so it just says neighborhoods east of the florida turnpike instead of referring to it as as an actual flex zone so that's that's one of the changes that that you'll notice but the main i the main point of this is to make sure that we're trying to preserve the character of each of the neighborhoods and that we're not uh implementing any new plans or policies that would uh sort of um you know uh take away from the the quality of those neighborhoods uh what those unique character uh characteristics exactly like is that unique within the city of plantation unique within brow county or unique within the entire united states what you mean the the neighborhood element and how we characterize the neighborhood how do you characterize something as being unique in quality for a city neighborhood so we take a look uh an example the way like i i can give you a easy example is um um there's an area in there that that deals with um plantation acres for example uh very low density development there are things that are still in there about preserving uh the you know enabling uh you know horse trails and things of that sort uh within the community so that's a unique quality for that neighborhood as distinct from say midtown uh so there so each there are neighborhoods that have their own distinct quality and things that the residents in that neighborhood uh seek to preserve within those neighborhoods uh even identifying them uh many years ago the city wanted to identify the different neighborhoods so you'll see the uh the the signs like if you go to el dorado estates and many other neighborhoods you'll see the unique identification signs as you enter into those neighborhoods as well for these characteristics within the neighborhood i feel like for some of these policies that ends up maybe the community of yesterday wanted that and then it's just a holdover and then it's never really addressed again within the community if that was something that still meets their current needs right is there like any requirement for them like where it lists out these unique characteristics for the residents of that area and like maybe like on a 10 or 20 year basis that the community comes together and reviews those characteristics and they should still be for the neighborhood or not because i feel like right now it's just like it's just snucked in there and then we're just following it right it's run in stone these are very general things like tree canopy type stuff and other you know it's but if it's general then it's not that it's not unique so why are we preserving it there are things that are unique to different neighborhoods like as i said just as an example i mean uh the midtown and uh gateway and plantation acres are very unique they're very you know and what we do and what we're trying to preserve and what we're trying to add to say uh midtown is not something that we would do in plantation acres i so so there are some unique characteristics i think i read this too much yeah i read this more like it's the issue of design element and our neighborhoods are already designed so if we're talking about how moving forward for example addition of adus if you're going to put an adu in the acres there are going to be different lot restrictions and what you get in the east but from our standpoint when that comes before us if somebody wants to put a hyper modern looking adu in a lot where all the houses have a different look that's probably something that doesn't fit with that neighborhood character so it really is kind of like a character issue more than straight like planning issues how i read that it's just because like i've heard like over the years i've been involved i feel like a lot of like stuff that addresses actual issues of like housing affordability or public transit tend to get shot down by like kept like neighborhood characteristics and is this uh it just feels like if that's going to be a reason why we're going to like not do something for more discussed about issues i would like for this uh kind of topic to be more defined so me or future people can better understand what is the value and how does that measure up like how should we prioritize that value of the unique characteristics with other priorities that the city also has outlined yeah so in doing that we do we try to do workshops and we're dealing with important matters of like how we grow and the character of how we grow and and and we're at a point right now basically with this comprehensive plan which we have to answer some fundamental questions you you talked about housing affordability uh the city which we've been largely built out for a while uh being a largely built out city we still have you look at the population projections uh we're still going to grow so the question is how do we deal with those issues you know and how do we certain neighborhoods of course the solution is not going to be to say hey we have low density development in plantation acres let's put everything in plantation acres that's not the solution so we do meet periodically the the goal here is that um you know kind of looking at other things we need to coordinate with say the the transit authority and the mpo and other areas uh looking at the trends that we have with affordability and other things that a need for smart growth solutions the goal here is to identify those priority redevelopment areas uh which which we sort of identified on a map again uh midtown because midtown was already planned as an area where uh we had we've identified that we would accept additional density and development is consistent with the midtown plan or what have you one area that uh you know when we try to coordinate planning activities with other local governments again going back to the intergovernmental coordination element uh some of the things that we're doing we're looking at the uh sunrise boulevard corridor up near university as um you know an area that can accommodate uh some additional growth and development create uh the type of uh density node that we need to for our uh transportation planning or what have you so we're pushing there are things that are changing trust me we first started talking about affordable housing or what have you just the notion of what people imagine and we talked about affordable housing it was a large educational piece there and even talking about transit-oriented development things of that sort um and letting people know also that the goal is to preserve the quality of some of our neighborhoods as well we can't just say we're gonna you know spread development out uh everywhere so those are topics that sometimes require town halls or we meet sometimes with the council to kind of go over and to you know talk about hey how are we going to uh address these issues and matters and and before we took on the the comprehensive plan um yeah we we had a um a big um you know uh workshop with the council to kind of talk about those issues and kind of what we were seeing and we were able to get to a point where we worked some of those things out we took certain neighborhoods out we left certain you know neighborhoods in so uh over time those issues are going to boil up and we're going to have to we're going to have to deal with them understood thank you so um so some again some of the things we look at is we try to look at the boundaries and the land use characteristics of of the various neighborhoods uh you know the desired character kind of putting that for instance plantation acres large lots semi-rural equestrian area on the western edge uh you know has long-standing policies to preserve its low density rural character so that's something if you go into um this element you look under the uh the section dealing with plantation acres uh you know there's lots of policies that are geared toward preserving that that character um design and compatibility policies each neighborhood district in the element has specific goals objectives and policies that guide development and design uh so um and and again we are with this plan everything doesn't always change with the update of a comprehensive plan sometimes we're growing on our past accomplishments you know within the plan and we did some things very well and there's no need to address certain things i think that the city has done a very good job in uh kind of developing uh its neighborhoods its tree canopy and many things so we've you know uh there's a lot that we want to preserve because we've done a good job in in the past um so that's uh what you'll find there and again some of the uh if you go through this section and look at some of the policies again the city shall periodically review the plantation acres overlay zoning provisions to ensure alignment with rural design character objectives um policy 130306 the sea shall encourage redevelopment of the former plantation general hospital size of mixed-use medical residential village including medical offices since it living facilities urgent care and this is something that was recently put in there this uh this sort of uh came out of um a study that we did a couple of years back with the urban land institute the uli uh and one of the big concerns at the time of that study was with plantation hospital leaving what were we going to do that was such a big uh property that has a pretty significant economic impact on uh you know the gateway district uh what were we going to do with with that uh parcel so those were some of the goals that have come out and we've actually uh that helped us re-engage discussions uh with the hospital uh and they we've actually as you know the urgent care uh uh the um the the emergency room actually that we ended up uh uh negotiating with them is actually under construction right now and then we're looking at uh some other things that that we can do uh with the hospital building uh itself uh yes hca still owns the property and they've told us that in the past there was one parcel that they owned in that area that they sold off and they sorry that they actually sold it off and so one of their policies now is that they're going to they're holding on to uh most of the the property that that they own so yes they yes so they're they're uh it will be torn down uh but i mean they're going to be very much involved in the redevelopment of the parcel uh as well so but their preference uh they told us right now is they want to hold on to a lot of the property that that they own so um and then uh you know with the midtown's a couple of things here i just put in is uh for midtown uh city shall encourage the development redevelopment of properties within the midtown district as compact mixed-use projects development within midtown districts shall incorporate design features that prioritize again when we talk about the neighborhoods that uniqueness pedestrian comfort connectivity including active ground floor uses continuous shaded sidewalks short blocks this is unique to midtown this is not going to fit uh plantation acres for example just uh you know so there are some unique things within the various neighborhoods that you'll find uh in that area property rights this is uh a recent uh in the last couple of years that the the state has required local governments to adopt within their comprehensive plan um this element pretty much is explicitly acknowledges private property rights in the planning process um and basically we have to enumerate uh within this element uh what those property rights are that every property owner has a right to and then as a city as we are interacting with uh property owners and stuff that we need to make sure that we are acknowledging their rights and abiding by uh their their rights in that regard so if you go through um this section first of all as i said the statutory requirement uh kind of identify the the the statute that outlines uh and mandates uh this element um number two sort of uh enumerates some of those property rights that we have to put in there so you'll see uh the right to physically uh possess and control one's property number two the right to use maintain and improve one's property as allowed by the law the right to privacy and to exclude others from one's property and the right to dispose of one's property there's some other uh stuff within the the statute that says uh in terms of uh us acknowledging um the right to uh a public notice and opportunities for affected party property owners to be heard or what have you so we have to and we've done a lot of this stuff as you know when we updated the land development regulations we actually added some additional procedures uh for public notice and for the uh developer the requirement of the developer go out and meet with adjacent property owners uh you know with regard to development uh as well uh and then finally policy statements and objectives the element is formulated with general objectives uh to ensure that private property rights are respected in the local decision making process and again if you kind of go through here these are you're going to find again almost like with the the uh public schools facilities element here uh you're going to find even across the state that um most of the local governments have just pulled everything right out of the statute just to make sure that they're complying you know there are additional things that you can add but uh you know we just opted to uh make sure that we are in compliance with uh with the state statute in terms of the property rights there so it's a very short uh probably probably the shortest element within the within the comp plan and again we just want to make sure we comply with the the state statute here and then finally the resiliency and sustainability element this is a new element our our old plan did not have a resiliency and sustainability element as we started updating this plan we started looking at some of the issues that we're already confronting uh within the city we realized that there was an urgent need for us to to go ahead and put together a resiliency and sustainability element lots of other local governments uh have have moved in in that direction as well so you're gonna you're gonna see these elements uh in uh most local government comprehensive plans uh and again the purpose here uh the resiliency sustainability element is is to just guide the city's efforts to reduce vulnerability to climate related risks strengthen infrastructure and community preparedness and promote long-term environmental social and economic health so that's that's the the general purpose here some of the data and stuff that should be looked at when doing this um we actually don't have all of that data just yet because this is new for example it would have been nice for us to have a vulnerability assessment uh done for the city we don't have that in place yet uh actually the the city council i think was at the last meeting actually uh approved uh monies for us to uh to to uh to get a consultant to complete a vulnerability uh assessment a lot of local governments are doing that now and that assessment uh we'll just kind of look at um you know sea level rise projections flood risk zones heat island mapping fema maps local hazard mitigation and so it's it's it's to help us sort of identify where we're vulnerable and where we're going to have issues in the future so that we can do the appropriate amount of planning so if we're building new infrastructure or facilities on a property that uh we're already and there are some properties that we're already seeing uh from a stormwater perspective that um are are having uh you know more intense um you know issues we need to make sure that as we're making uh improvements capital improvements that we're taking those things into consideration also we're looking at infrastructure energy resilience for the city looking at critical infrastructure vulnerabilities renewable energy availability and policies backup power for critical facilities so even as we're doing our emergency planning and mitigation we want to make sure we're not placing say like a generator or something in an area that uh is not the best location given some of the vulnerabilities that the city has so we're going to make sure that we're incorporating all of those things uh into our planning as we move forward also looking at um you know right now we don't really have an ordinance that really addresses uh green uh building development uh standards and things of that sort so we're we're going to try to look at uh implementing some standards where we might use uh you know lead standards or other standards that are out there so that particularly for city buildings as we're building new buildings we should be uh trying to make sure we're building consistent with some of those standards as well and then policy strategic frameworks uh looking at uh the uh i talked about the intergovernmental coordination element that we were trying to work uh with the south florida regional planning council for example they uh put together a climate um compact that they have in place and right now we are that's kind of some of the data that they've done and that the county has done the county has completed a study uh and so we're kind of utilizing some of that data and though it's more county-wide a lot of the data is not very specific to plantation which is why we need to do our own vulnerability uh assessment um and so those are some of the things that we're we're trying to look at as we move forward and as we complete those studies we'll have to go back in and update the the plan so you can see right here one of the first policies uh as as as we started writing this was to adopt a vulnerability assessment by 2028 well we're already uh well you know we at least have the funding and approval in place to to uh to do that so i think that that will be done prior to 2028 um to incorporate climate change considerations into all relevant planning activities again something that we we want to do as as we're meeting um as different departments and looking at our capital needs and um what have you and then by 2027 the city shall complete we're looking at doing a sustainability plan as well uh and i know that's something that the uh resiliency and sustainability board is has been pushing as well uh so it's something that we're trying to do as well and so those are just some of the some of the examples i just pulled out some of the policies just to give an example of the things that we're doing uh within that element again uh you know take a look at that if you feel there are things that you would like for us to consider and to add uh again it's not too late to uh submit uh uh just a question we're allowed to have climate change in the in the comprehensive plan again well um as you notice the name of the of that element is some cities actually have called it the climate change element i opted okay not to do that you're you're being proactive it's not necessarily i was seeing the text there i was like wait what okay yeah so i'm happy with that we call it the resiliency and sustainability element uh but at some point it's kind of hard to avoid the term climate change but you know um you know it is what it is in any event we need to acknowledge that things are changing uh whatever the whatever's driving it yeah yeah i'm so so um so that's that um and again um just the implementation steps again planning and zoning board review and input so that's what we've done with the last three meetings here just kind of giving you a broad overview of the plan the different elements and what's in those different elements we have engaged with other boards we've gone around we've met with the affordable housing action committee we've met with the sustainability board we met with gateway and the last board that we have to meet with is midtown just to sort of go over the midtown plan and the land use element related to midtown after that again i will make another appeal that we get information from all uh the board the public or what have you so that we can finalize uh you know uh and refine the the final plan itself and once that's done uh prior to adoption that i am going to send out there's going to be two elements that you're going to get we've been utilizing a lot of the data i have not yet shared some of the data that we've utilized yet because it's just been a bunch of charts and stuff but we had to do a volume two to the plan that will include all of that data it's about 95 percent done in fact if i get information from one department by friday i'll have that draft complete the department shall remain nameless um and i will get that information to you guys uh as quickly as possible so you're going to get in the end you're going to get two volumes one volume will just look at the data so like for example if you pull the housing element out this is going to have uh you know population projections is going to look at what our current uh housing stock is and just you know just there's a bunch of just data uh in there uh for you to take a look at and they'll give a brief description of that data and kind of what the data means uh for the city and that will be emailed to us yes yes so but you're going to get uh and whatever updates we've made to the uh since the the copy you got of the goals objectives and policies you'll get whatever's been updated in that as well that's pretty much will kind of form what will probably be the close to the final um you know uh draft uh of the plan and i will come back to this board we'll go over we will talk about some of that data and then some of the and how the data relates to what we actually have within the plan itself so there will be uh one final bite at the apple so to speak uh to give some of your input as well uh and then after that we go for formal adoption uh which will come back to this board for a final action then on to the uh city council for its final action and approval yeah i have two quick uh hopefully quick questions comment the first it's it's kind of related to both the capital improvements section and the intergovernmental coordination section so most of if you look at like level of service for transportation for example most of the facilities that are actually failing failing in our city are not owned by the city they're arterial roads that are owned by either the county or the state so those of course they have their own plans the county has its own comprehensive plan where it addresses level of service and arterial roads and the state also does um but i'm concerned with because our intergovernmental coordination from my understanding just says we will coordinate with these entities when they come up with their own plans and designs but you know when we get a public meeting for example for if fdot wants to redesign university drive for example by the time it gets to the public meeting what i've been told many times is basically that you're too late we can't change the design we can't consider you know a bike lane or we can't consider more street trees because we're already too far in the process so my concern is that when plantation finally gets its comments in you know the city's also too late to work with fdot or with broward county on the design of these facilities so in our intergovernmental coordination section can we specify like for transportation projects with the state and county we want to get in the meeting with them and i'm using this very broadly right but getting there in the design phase or like right before the design phase starts can we specify that or is that just not best practice okay and maybe it's a question for similar and sometimes this is and it goes back to uh and we we have these issues arise a lot actually uh with other governmental agencies or entities because sometimes their practice is not really you know feasible or you know they they they they're omitting things that uh uh cause heartburn or heartache for you know the the cities in the end we can put that in our plan uh but the the thing that we really would need to do as a local government entity is to really try to sit with them face to face and talk to them about how their process kind of frustrates our process and to try to get them to uh give us input sooner that that kind of gets into you know the conflict resolution and other you know where there are disagreements or what have you where we sit down a lot of times one of the probably the best thing to happen with regard to that is for us to engage all of the local governments we're stronger together that's how we got the issue that we're having with the school board right now basically all of the local the governments that are impact not every city was impacted by the the educational mitigation uh agreement um but um the ones that were we actually had to go down to a school board meeting we had to kind of you know let the school board know our displeasure and finally they put together a committee for us to sit down and work some things out so that's probably a better avenue for us to just sitting in our plan as a policy and us telling this agency this is our policy um it's fine but i'm not so sure it's effective right i mean because i've seen it happen at the mpo because theoretically the mpo should be the avenue for the city to do it and i was going to say the mpo is a is a better you know way to to address that but i'll tell you as a member of the mpo citizens advisory committee the mpo gets just as frustrated with the ot in broward county as well yes um just food for thought i guess to see if we can do something about that uh and my second one is more of a comment which is that you know we're focusing on on smart growth practices tod um walkability all that stuff and that's very dependent on the transit actually being there the can't have tod without the t right uh we don't really identify in our comprehensive plan because the primo plan which is what we're basing a lot of our zoning off of is kind of still in the air especially with the new state budget that kind of defunds transit quite a bit um is it possible to have in our comprehensive plan just a statement that basically says the city supports the primo program and the full implementation like all that kind of stuff so that you know on the transportation side we align it with our development side we can we have uh we can do that yeah absolutely we can do that i mean as i said this this is this is what this step is for um we it's generically stated we don't mention the primo plan specifically and for the reason you just identified i didn't because i i don't know where they're going with with that i mean i don't i do know that conceptually we you know i feel at some point in the future something's going to happen i don't know if it's going to happen just as they've mapped it out in the primo plan but i also know that we need to start uh transit oriented type development as well because that's going to help the county and one of the problems that we've had is you know people keep saying oh transit will never work or whatever well we are not building you know as you know we're not building um development in a way that is going to uh strengthen transit you know we're still very much low density development sprawl type uh development and until we make a that shift and you start seeing more local governments doing this then more people will find it convenient to ride transit and then the the uh what they call the headway or whatever will increase and you know so you know hopefully it's a positive feedback right right so but yeah we can we can um um identify specifically um the primo plan i don't have a problem doing that um you know personally i think that would be better just to kind of push the county a little bit but to let you know we did look at the primo plan and uh basically a lot of policies that you know that are discussed in the primo plan we did add some of that to our plan yeah but but yeah there's no problem with listing that uh specifically we can do that also thank you as as an example i would recommend like in the wording because if the plan just says primo and then primo changes to something else then i imagine somebody might try to use that as a loophole to get out of meeting requirements so whatever kind of wording you use for example might be yeah we can say the primo plan or any other or any future plan that the county may adopt yeah there's there are ways for us to do that and that's another reason why sometimes we we don't list things specifically because acronyms and names change uh over time and we just try to really stick to the basic policy or goal that we're you know that that we're seeking but yeah so for this like like let's say the comprehensive plan like as is kind of is voted and approved by the council and becomes our plan is it like already required for like notification to be sent out to all those different government entities about the plan update that plantation did or is it just this is this within our silo and then this comes as a need to know basis so typically what happens once if once if the council approves it we're going to have to of course um well i'll say because they're second reading approval is going to go through that review but it'll be blessed by the state by the county entities or what have you once we're adopted it's typical that a lot of local governments will send it we we typically will send it at least to our adjacent municipalities um you know so sunrise fort lauderdale we don't send it to everybody uh in the county there's no need to send it to like the the planning council because the planning council is one of the reviewing agencies or what have you so it for the most part it will go to most of the adjacent cities um so that they can kind of see what you know what like when you say adjacent cities you mean like the planning departments for those cities or would it be the council members or it'll just be like more like for the planning department there for them to go to the planning department but but they're also notified when we're that we're i'm just curious they know that we're working i talk i've actually talked to oh okay so do you know it has like sunrise and debut just recently did the comprehensive plan update sunrise did there's a couple of years ago for lauderdale did there's a couple of years ago um like two or three years ago um the town of davie i'm not sure i think that they're i think they're in the process of of uh of updating now and there's a couple of other cities that are up i know even though they're not adjacent to us i know tamarack is in the process of doing it um i know pompano did it a couple of years ago about three or four years ago so all right cool all right any other questions any other business that we have to discuss that's it we've just got a busy um august coming up uh so before before i gavel it out just to verify we have another one of these meetings this month is that correct or no no oh only the one outstanding yes sweet in that case then 702 meeting adjourned all right thank you