It is now 5 p.m. and we will call the legislative workshop to order. And City Clerk, if you're ready, please call the roll. Council Member Anderson. Here. Council Member Andreu. Here. Council Member Fajan. Here. Council Member Reinstein. Here. Mayor Sortel. Here. City Attorney Ezra. Here. Thank you very much. Who's taking the lead on starting the, Ms. Morris? Thank you. So good afternoon. At some point, hopefully relatively soon, we will see Candace and LJ appear on the Zoom. They have been through all these proposals and all of these projects. So I'm going to go ahead and get started and they can jump in and join us. No, they're not there yet, but hopefully they will be soon. I did confirm with them this morning. They are here. There they are. Okay. Okay, so we are going to sort of divide this workshop into two separate sections. The first piece to be talking about legislative appropriations. As we normally do, we met with City staff. We have taken the best of their ideas and we're going to present them to you today. I will tell you that LJ and Candace and I have caucused. We do have our favorites. We're happy to share with you if you want our input. Similarly, if you have projects you want to discuss or you want to suggest, now would be the time to do it. As a general rule, we try not to put multiple requests in the same budgetary bucket so we're not competing against ourselves. The sweet spot in terms of funding, LJ and Candace have guided us to look somewhere around a million dollars. The legislature does very much like to see some sort of match on behalf of the city. It's also helpful if the project that we're talking about is included in the city's CIP or if we have independent studies that corroborate the need to move forward with the project. So, again, we're going to start talking by appropriations. I'll go through the project city staff have suggested. We can talk about any suggestions that you all have. We need to come to some consensus so that we can get our appropriations document drafted and they have an opportunity to identify sponsors and move this stuff forward early during the committee week process in Tallahassee. The second part of the workshop, I want to talk a little bit about the legislative action plan. I gave you a copy of last year's action plan. It is fairly complete, but by virtue of our early meeting date this year, a lot of other entities that we would normally look to to sort of parallel or look for their input on, such as the League of Cities, they don't meet until this weekend. Broward County won't be discussing their state plan until next week. So, what I'd like to do is just sort of keep the discussion on the action plan broad. If there are things you want to add, maybe things you want to take a stronger position on or things you want to delete, let's identify those and then we'll bring you back a final draft to review in January. So, looking at projects, we have sort of a plethora. On the first few, I have some additional backup on the pages that follow so we can look at them in a little further detail. The first project is Southwest 125th Avenue Improvements. If this seems familiar to you, this was a sea slip project from a few years ago. Southwest 125th connects to the Greenway. So, this would sort of complete that Greenway by providing sidewalk, drainage improvements, things like that. Central Park Drive Pedestrian Bridges, they are in need of replacement. We do have, again, an independent study documenting that. That's another potential project. FIRE brought in a project that we'll look at in a minute because I can't do a good job describing it. It's called a Scorpion. It is a device that mounts on the back of a rather large truck and it is used on the Turnpike or I-95 in the event that there is a serious accident and they need to block traffic for the safety of the first responders. Currently, when we respond to a call on the Turnpike, FIRE is generally rolling one of the large fire trucks or a ladder truck to provide a buffer so that our first responders can work safely. FIRE trucks are expensive. You're looking at upwards of a million dollars and you're probably looking at a year to two years to replace one. So this Scorpion device is much more reasonably priced and more readily available. So it's an interesting alternative that we're going to share with you. Parks and Rec has some facility improvements that are ADA related that we've grouped together. Police are interested in securing more drones. Obviously, they use them for apprehensions, for investigations. They also have a use in the event that we do have some sort of natural disaster. If there is an area that we can't get into, it would allow us to sort of see what's going on in there without deploying individuals. Public works. We've talked about some general security enhancements at all city facilities, parking gates, security cameras, things of that nature. Utilities brought forward two projects. One of them is a lift station rehabilitation. And the other one is replacement of the water service interconnect between ourselves and the city of Lauder Hill. So we'll look at a couple of those a little more deeply. The first one is the Southwest 125th Avenue project. This was included in your backup. I know it's a little hard to see here. But this project essentially establishes a connection so that people can get to the greenway without going off-road, for lack of a better way to say it. It will provide a paved walkway, drainage improvements, and, again, connect the neighborhood to the greenway. Ms. Morris, before you move on to the next one, would it be easier for you and for Ms. Erickson and Ms. Jackson to take questions after each one? Or would you like to go through all of them first? Whatever you prefer. Okay. So why don't we stop? And are there any questions regarding the dais regarding Southwest 125th Avenue improvements? Go ahead. Not on that one. Okay. So let's wait until after each. Mayor? Just a quick comment. Overall, resident input matters a lot on these. And I talked to a lot of people there. They don't have an HOA, but they have a neighborhood group and everything. And they're really excited for this. And we would get a pretty stellar showing of community support. For the first one? Oh, the 25th Ave, yeah. Okay. Yeah, they want that. They want to walk down there. The streets are rated among the worst in our city. And having walkability score as well with MPO and the like of that. So I think this one we could get, the public would get behind it in that area pretty easily. That's all. Very good. Thanks, Mayor. And obviously, letters of support, wherever we can garner them on any of the projects we want to move forward, are very important. The next one is Central Park Drive pedestrian bridges. These are bridges that have been inspected. They are in need of replacement. We're estimating it at about $750,000. We do have the bridge reports that we could provide as backup. The next one's the Scorpion. And, again, it's a hard thing to describe. This is what it looks like deployed. It provides a buffer between first responders and adjacent traffic. And I'm sure we can probably all think of multiple incidents where first responders have been injured in heavy traffic. I know that the city's had two pieces of fire apparatus damaged since I've been here on the turnpike. So it is a real issue when they are responding in that venue. Ms. Morris, Council Member Andrea has a question. Ms. Morris, I know you said that this was in the backup, but was that what you emailed to us separately? No, ma'am. This should have been attached to the agenda. Okay. Yeah. I didn't have it on the iLegislate, but maybe when I switch over to the new one. But my question is this. So I looked at this. Very interesting. It is. But I also was having a conversation with Mr. Nunamaker recently. And did fire, and I don't see Chief here yet, but did they give any priority to maybe, and I have no idea what the apparatus would be called, but the truck that has, I guess, maybe extension or a longer ladder, because the conversation Mr. Nunamaker and I had were, as we have some buildings now in our city that we previously didn't have that are taller, are eight stories and some taller than that, that some of our trucks may not have that level of extension, if you will. So I don't, again, I don't feel the only request in terms of appropriations that fire brought forward. Okay. Again, I haven't priced a ladder truck recently, but my gut is it's probably going to be well above a million dollars, and that may be the reason that they did not do so. Okay. So the next one is lift station 75. This is rehabilitation. This is necessary because of, you know, pressure in the mains, changes in regulatory requirements, et cetera. This is part of an ongoing project that utilities is involved in. This is a project that is in your CIP. So this is a project that will happen anyway. It's just sort of a matter of whose money is going to pay for it. And lastly, we have the interconnect with Lauder Hill. Currently, the interconnect between City of Plantation and Lauder Hill for water service is undersized. It's out of date. Replacing this interconnect benefits both cities in that if for some reason there is a water emergency and we need to pull another, you know, water from another source, we have that backup supply available. Similarly, they would as well. That's... Ms. Morris, before I take Council Member Fadgen's question, I see on the list that there was also drones and security enhancement at public facilities. We're going to talk about those in a minute. We're going to do those separate. Yes. Okay. Council Member Fadgen? So is this a... Are we talking to Lauder Hill? Is this the total cost of the project or our share of the project? This is the total cost of the project. If indeed this is something we want to move forward with, we will be talking to them to try and garner a letter of support, things like that. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. And magically, Parks and Recreation, ADA Facility Improvements, that would be at Central Park, Jim Ward, and Volunteer Park. Police Department came forward asking for two drones. Again, they serve them in terms of missing persons and apprehension, but they also do have an emergency management or disaster response feature in that. Were we to have a hurricane and a portion of the city be inaccessible, we could use drones to better assess the damage in that area and organize our response accordingly. Similarly, Public Works brought forward security improvements at municipal facilities to include access controls, security cameras, lighting improvements, etc., so it's sort of a mixed bucket and would affect a variety of facilities. That's the whole list of what we came forward with, and I'll go back to the original list in case you find it helpful. So does the council have any other questions as to what has been presented so far? Otherwise, we can. Do you want to continue, or do you want to open it up for other council projects? I think this is a good time to talk about other suggestions that council may have, and, of course, again, Candace and Lauren are online if they want to chime in on any of these items. So before we move forward with any other projects that council members may have a concern for, does Candace or Lauren wish to comment on anything that was just presented by Ms. Morris? This is Lauren. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I was just going to say, this is Lauren. Can you guys hear me okay? Yes, we can hear you. Awesome. Carol did an excellent job, I think, in sourcing what the departments brought her, trying to find something that has, you know, regional impacts, that is affordable. I think she did a really good job vetting these projects. One of the things I just want to mention, though, is that the House speaker has made it known that he thought that member projects are taking up too much of the budget, and he wanted to completely sort of redo the way that legislators look at the budget instead of focusing on their member projects. He wants them focusing on budgeting like a family would around the dinner table. So it's just something to keep in mind that the lower numbers are really good this year. That will make us more competitive because the House speaker has made it known that member projects are not going to be viewed as favorably this year. So just an FYI to keep that in mind and kind of set the tone. So just to follow up on that point is that I think I had previously heard that the larger numbers we were presenting were a better way to present it, and now are you telling us that the smaller numbers are better for us to present? Yes, it is. Instead of negotiating with a larger number, which you typically would do in any other negotiation, they would just ice you out if you come with a bigger number. Okay, thank you. Council Member André. Thank you, President Reinstein. So, Ms. Morris, I know that we talked about the sidewalk project on Tropical, and we were going to use a set of the C-slip funds for that. When will we know? When will we know about C-slip? Correct. We were not ranked for funding on that project. Okay. So would it be feasible to add that project to this list? And that shouldn't be a high. I have no idea, but I can't foresee that being out of the realm based on what Ms. Jackson just said. I think that budgetary, that dollar amount would still fall within this threshold. Let me throw out a couple of thoughts for you. I don't remember the exact numbers on that project. I want to say they were around a million dollars. There are some challenges there. We have not fully designed that project. There are a lot of potential infrastructure issues there. Yeah, apparently it's going to have to meander to avoid a variety of different pieces. And I think if you recall, some of the community feedback there was a bit mixed. Could we bring it forward? Yes, we could. Lauren, do you have a feel yet as to whether sidewalks and roadway projects are going to be general appropriations or if they're going to come out of the transportation budget? That's a fantastic question. We do not yet. I believe there's going to be a similar push as to last year to try to get that to be general funded. If you did put a transportation project forward, obviously that is what we would be requesting, to please put it in general funds as opposed to trust fund dollars. And the reason why Carol is asking that question, if it's in the trust fund, if it comes out of the trust fund, FDOT typically does not appreciate that. And it's a lot more vulnerable to the veto. Thank you. And so my last statement, really, reviewing the appropriation requests, I thought they were great. They're directly correlated to our 2023-2028 strategic plan for the city. Particularly most of them go under our safe and secure objectives. But I thought it was well mapped out, and I'm crossing my fingers that everything makes it across the finish line. Well, we do need to do a little bit of decision-making in that, again, we have typically only brought forward two to three projects a year. And we try not to bring forward projects that would fall into the same bucket. So we don't want to be competing against ourselves. So, for instance, the Lauderhill Interconnect and the Lyft Station would both come out of water budgets. So they would be competing against themselves. So I hate to ask you to play favorites, but we sort of need to. So before we end tonight, you want a consensus on the top two? Or three. Yeah. And if I may, just in regards to the process as well, part of the way we also kind of whittle down is when we meet with our legislative sponsors. And kind of see what they're interested in really focusing on. And if there's a project that they're excited about and want to push, it might, if you're not wanting to eliminate a project, maybe just ranking it to say which one's more important to you is also helpful. Thank you. Council Member André, anything further? Council Member Horland. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you. As everyone said, Carol, you always do a great job in getting us down to this point. So we talk about it every year. I mean, it's a little early in the process, but what has the best chances? So I think rather than two, we go with three. I like the idea of ranking them at this point, but we've discussed in the past that projects that potentially have a regional impact have a better chance of getting approved. So, you know, immediately I'm looking at the Water Hill Interconnect. I think that's something that we would potentially have a good shot at getting across the finish line. So when we get to the point that we're ranking, I said that's really where I'd want to look. Lauren, do you think, and I know it's tough, we're looking at lower price. I don't know if they would want to fund drones, but are you thinking just anything under a million? I think we need to be under the $750 mark. Is it hard to say? When it comes to public safety, it's hard to say necessarily what they'll fund completely, but, you know, public safety tends to be, it can be somewhat harder. But what we've found has been working in recent sessions is, like Carol mentioned, letters of support, not just from the city, but, like, from businesses in the area, from the places that you're keeping safe, those tend to go a long way. So it is possible that if we wanted to pursue something, and you can make a regional argument, especially for the Scorpion, but also for the drones. So as long as we can make those regional arguments so we can get that community support, I would think that there is a chance. And I also kind of hesitate to say this as well, but just if everyone's been maybe looking at the news headlines, we're not totally sure if Governor DeSantis might be the governor, but we're not sure yet. That's something to be determined, and that might also kind of change the trajectory of what they're looking at, too. So we might want to have a diverse, you know, pool to kind of put forward and kind of see what will move with that. Okay. That makes sense. Great. Thank you, Lauren. Councilmember Fadgen. Thank you. I agree with Councilmember Orlin regarding the Lauderhill. I think if we team up with them, then it's maybe even more friendly since it's, you know, two cities. You ask for about 180,000. And then, you know, I think three, and my preference would be the Scorpion and the drones with the Lauderhill Connect. So thank you. In looking at the ADA facility improvements, which is at a million, is there a, if we wanted, if we were concerned that that number was too high and it would be ignored from the get-go, is there a reduced request that we can make in terms of prioritizing the ADA improvements in our city? We can always seek a lower number or we could increase what we are suggesting as a match. We can get to it either way. What we are basing dollars on is estimates that we have as well as the ADA reports that we have. The important thing to note is the ADA reports just get us to compliance. They may not get us to compliance quite the way we want to get there. So it's just the bare bones to get you over the hump and legal. Whereas if we're going to go in and, for instance, rip up an entryway or rip up a bathroom, there may be other improvements that the city wants to make at the same time that may change that price. Yes, yes, we can play with that number. You know, when looking at all of these requests and thinking of, you know, I'm hearing what my colleagues are saying regarding the, you know, acceptability or of the Lauder Hill interconnect. And I recognize the Scorpion and the drones. Although when I look at the ADA request, I keep thinking to myself how long overdue that is. It's not something that we just want or it's something that is helpful. It's something that we've been talking about how it's necessary. You know, same thing with the drainage issues. I mean, we're constantly talking about drainage concerns and issues. And if the Southwest 125th Avenue improvements that the mayor started out with some comments on, to me, those two seem like they would be ones I'd like to see prioritized. Let me just mention to you that the city does currently have an active appropriation that we're in the process of completing for ADA bathroom improvements to this building. So we have been successful getting some funding for ADA projects. I think that was two years ago. Two years sound right? It wasn't last session. It was the prior session. Yeah. That's one building out of how many that need the improvements? Admittedly. But we have had some success getting funding there. So it may be one that we, that would suggest we may have continued success? I mean, you made the comment that we had success. So what was the suggestion? I hope it means we're going to have continued success, but my crystal ball is not nearly that good. Understood. Any other projects from Council in terms of Ms. Erickson, Ms. Jackson, anything else that you'd like to continue? We have plenty of time. Yeah, I just wanted to say good evening, everybody. Greetings from Tallahassee. We're up here, well, I'm up here right now, where the House is doing member training. And just to kind of lay the land out a little bit to understand that we're moving in a very slow direction. We're excited about some of the changes we think that the Speaker and the new Senate President is going to go in. But House members still haven't gotten committee assignments, and they probably won't until moving into January. So I think that it will be kind of a slow-moving getting started. But I agree with everything that was said. You know, Carol's done an amazing job, as she always does, and thank you for that, setting us up to have this discussion. And the regional impacts projects will always go further. And if you guys are saying that you have, you know, good community support for a few of them, and we're trying to rank, you know, maybe we want the top three, Carol. Maybe we throw in the fourth one just before we're able to speak to the members and the sponsors, and then whittle it down from there with the Council's approval. We can move forward in a quicker direction with that. So then we need to look for some consensus from Council. So I think I've heard already that Council Member Fadgen and Council Member Horland are looking at Lauderdale Interconnect. Is that a little? I would concur with that one as well. I would as well. Okay. Well, then there's enough consensus there. Thank you. So are we ranking that number one? So that would be number one based on what we've heard. So as far as number two, we can just go down the line. And Council Member Horland, Council Member Andreo, excuse me, do you have a... I would say probably the Scorpion would be my number two. Council Member Fadgen? Scorpion and then the drones. Just cutting to the chase. Okay. Council Member Horland? I'm going to ask a question. So those are both public safety. Would we have to toss one or the other? I mean, we could apply for both. Okay. Again, what's... How that may affect things? Candace, Lauren, you want to chime in? I mean, I think personally, I mean, we had the conversation earlier. I like the Scorpion. I think we've got a lot more bang for the buck on that simply because of the regionalism and the turnpike. That is something that I think would resonate much better with the representatives and the senators for funding. That would be my number. For funding. And the truth of the matter is there are lots of agencies with drones right now. There are, frankly, even a number of departments in the city that have drones. That have drones. So Scorpion would be my number two and then Melaleuca would be my number three. Chief, did you... And if I'm... It's actually possible that we might can get them to where they're not competing. If we're talking... We're talking about the drones and the Scorpion, correct? Mm-hmm. It's possible one will be even in general government and one could be in CJ, which is criminal justice, sorry. So there's a possibility that those wouldn't be competing. Yeah, but we also want to be careful, right? Because at the end of the day, you've got... Even though they're not in the same silo, we don't want to... If the Scorpion is more important than the drones, I would like to pick another one in a different silo versus... Oh, I see what you're saying, Lauren, about that. But I'm just saying, because it's only... It's 50,000, I would go for the other number. Agree, yeah. Chief, do you want to opine? Thank you, Chief. All right, don't come back. Council Member Anderson? The Melaleuca Isles and the Scorpion. So do you need them in a priority because they're different silos? I mean, from what I'm hearing, it sounds like we're looking at the Interconnect, the Scorpion, and Southwest 125th Ave, and if we're going to potentially look at a fourth project, I think I'm hearing ADA, correct? Yeah, ADA would be my fourth. Yeah, I think that would be mine as well. And I would concur with that. So let's just... So Lauderhill Connect, the Scorpion, the Southwest 125th Avenue improvements, and if we had a fourth, could we go with ADA? ADA. Okay. Okay. Is that the sufficient direction? Absolutely. Wonderful. Do we have anything further? Well, we're going to talk a little bit about the Legislative Action Plan. Let's do it. Perfect. Legislative Action Plan has not changed much in the last three or four years. I gave you copies of last year's plan. Again, the League of Cities meets this weekend. They'll be working on their Legislative Action Plan. Broward County has a draft of theirs out. They will be discussing it at their meeting on the 10th. So we're a little bit ahead of the curve. But these are the topics that we address in the plan this year. They are short-term rentals, accessible housing, property tax protection, enterprise fund transfers, home rule and local tax revenue, sovereign immunity, which is close to my heart, support for stormwater projects and initiatives, and support for League of Cities legislative initiatives. So really, I mean, if you're comfortable with those items, we can move forward with those. If you feel like you want to take a stronger position, if you feel like there's something there that's missing or something that needs to come out, if you can give us some guidance now, it'll allow us to bring you back a better draft in January. Council Member Fadgen? Thank you. You know, regarding short-term rentals, I really believe that part of the argument for us to get better control over this in this statement needs to be the effect that it's having on affordable housing. It's taking supply out of the market, and it's turning our, as we already know, our residential communities into commercial properties. But the statement, the argument that this is particularly in South Florida and probably Central Florida, is having a significant effect on our affordable housing. So I want some sort of statement possibly added to that as, you know, give us more control over this so that we, you know, they're asking us to do a ton of things, and this is having an adverse effect on us being able to address the affordable housing aspect of it. So thank you. Council Member Hoyland? Thank you, Mr. President. Council Member Fadgen, and it's an excellent point, what we found in, when we had these discussions in the legislature, because we are preempted from banning short-term rentals, they really, because we've used that argument about what it's doing in affordability in the, so they really don't want to hear from us that it's affecting affordability. We can have the discussion, but I don't know. I don't know how Carol feels about it, and Lauren might want to weigh in, because she's been on the front lines with us on the short-term rentals, if you feel that it would be beneficial to take a stronger statement, just knowing where we've been preempted in the past. Lauren? I actually, you hit it on the head. We actually, we've presented data, Councilwoman Horland actually put together some fantastic data from Plantation itself to kind of show how it impacts the missing middle when it comes to housing affordability. Of course, our delegation members loved it, but we did take that to the Senate President's office, and it was not well-received. So she is correct that it almost kind of falls on deaf ears. They view it as a property rights issue, and when it's a property rights issue, the legislature tends to come down on the side of property rights as opposed, private property rights as opposed to, you know, sort of the community well-being. And I do feel pretty happy about, you know, the governor's veto of the bill that passed this previous session that was going to preempt even further our local authority, that that hopefully will put to bed at least our having to go on the defense in terms of protecting from, you know, further preemptions. But if you still wanted to keep some sort of offensive, you know, statement in there, or, you know, something to the effect of wanting more control, I don't think that that's necessarily a bad thing. But I don't think it's going to happen in the next session. May I continue, Mr. President? And to the point, Council Member Fadgen, it's an excellent point to make, and that's why I brought it to the delegation. And I think it's a good talking point for our delegation members when they are about to vote on one of these because it's just another factor in how the short-term rentals are affecting our community. If I may, Carol, because I went ahead and shared with you, Carol's correct, we're going to be voting on Friday on the Florida League of Cities legislative priorities. So I just want to give you a quick idea of where they are. So we'll be voting on a legislative priority and a policy position statement. So we're looking at affordable housing and impact fees in one committee, local business taxes and property taxes, again, in the Finance and Taxation Committee, annexation and electric vehicles, public safety recruitment and retention, sovereign immunity, because we understand it's going to rear its ugly head again, and in utilities, enterprise fund transfers. If you remember last session, they were looking at what municipalities were transferring out of their utility fund into their general fund, and one water. And that's an important one because it's really trying to not preempt local governments from dealing with not just their potable water but their drainage, and they're looking at a more comprehensive control for local governments over all of their water sources. So that's where we are. Now, we mentioned possibly. Do you feel it would be advantageous to put in something about the homeless situation? I think it's an issue that's, I'm going to say, near and dear to much of Broward County. I sort of would like to see how some of the other platforms are going to come out and how they're going to propose addressing it before trying to craft language. Okay. Council Member Horland, anything further? No, I'm done. Thank you, Mr. President. Council Member Andreu. Well, Council Member Horland saw my notes because that's what I was going to ask about. You know, we have this unfunded mandate, basically, is what happened from last year. And so I think that we absolutely need some item that is going to deal with our housing insecure population, and I would like to see that added. Other than that, I thought it was a great action plan, and not even knowing what the Florida League of Cities is going to come up with in the Broward League, just looking at their 2024 legislative plan, I thought it was perfectly aligned. But that was the one item I saw missing, and that's what I had in my notes was the homeless situation. I don't think we need to even wait to see, I mean, if you want to just look at what other municipalities and the county does in terms of language, but I think that we need to add that to our action plan. Yeah. What would be the reason, Ms. Morris, that you would want to wait to add something regarding the homeless situation? I think conceptually I don't have a problem adding it. I think what I wanted to do is see what other people are proposing, see if there's an opportunity to sort of align ourselves and be more of a collective on some of these issues. And as these policies start to come out, and they really will start to come out over the next month, we can fine-tune our language, we can polish our plan up a little bit, and, again, bring it back to you in January. You may want to wordsmith it. You may want to make some changes to it on that time, but give you a better idea of what everyone else is advocating and what we think the key issues are going to be. They have started filing bills in Tallahassee, but we're in the very, very early stages. And as you all know, frequently the bills that get filed early, the bills that get those very low numbers give you a good insight into where leadership is going for the next session. You know, my only concern would be that while you've stated that we're ahead of the game in terms of the timing that we're looking at our legislative action plan, I would, you know, I can envision that there are other municipalities that are waiting to see what somebody else is going to do. And so this may actually give us an opportunity to take the lead on that where other municipalities will say, well, plantation already came out with this statement. Maybe that's what we should be using as opposed to us waiting to see what others have come out with. We can certainly craft something and distribute it. And, again, you know, being aware of public records and all of those requirements, I can get your comments back and we can consolidate them. And then, actually, you know, if you want to, we can have it pretty well done and you can do a formal approval on January 15th. Is there consensus on that? Would the council like to see that? Yes? Yes. Okay. Thank you. And I'm done. Just not sure. I'm not sure where this fits in. I'm really not positive where we are with it. And it might be somewhat being addressed there at the second to last thing with the stormwater. But the paid issue about, I'm not sure where, but because of the role we are not allowed to play and so forth, but anything we're doing up there with that. I'll just hit the timing points and then I'll let Jason hit the rest of it. But local bill deadline is December 6th, and this would be a local bill. So we're going to delay, I think they said. So the plan is better to wait until next year. A local bill deadline will be earlier. It will fall in September. That will give you all and the community a chance to have some dialogue so that if we're going to move in that direction, the appropriate groundwork is laid and things go smoothly at the delegation. So I was aware of that, but is there anything we should be doing to just pre-talk about it now, or do you just not even bother when it's not? Well, at this point, what our plan is to send a letter to PAID to offer them that we would like to make a presentation, entertain a Q&A with the PAID board. As you know, they're going to make a transition in January. There's already discussions about dissolution, and if they do move in that direction, that has obviously impacts for us because statutorily those obligations would fall to us regardless of how we move forward. But what we would want to do is coordinate, as Carol said, on a bill to set forth how that would happen because we would like it to be as a dependent special district. It would give clear guidance on how that would be managed. But at this point, because the ramifications of the election have not occurred, it's probably premature. Okay. Thank you. Council Member Hoyland. Thank you, Mr. President. I just want to make a comment on that because I think some of us may have been contacted, and this has been a discussion we've had in the last couple of weeks. The other issue is they have an appropriation in there this year, and I certainly would like to see them get PAID, get appropriation. It doesn't go through us, but isn't that correct, that the old Plantation Water District in PAID has an appropriation? I've reached out to Brett on that to see if they're going back for the pump R&R, and if that is in the statement we have, we would continue to have. Okay, because I saw there were two in there. Yeah, we'll reach out to PAID. I don't know. I'd heard that they did a one-shot deal because they didn't engage the lobbyists for the long term. It was specific to that, and I think they got frustrated not realizing that, just like you all have realized, sometimes you get it, sometimes you don't, but you've got to go to the well every year. You've got to keep going. Okay. But we'll reach out, and if they're going to do it, obviously we will support them. Okay. My point is simply it would be nice if we were to take on the district eventually, that that appropriation came through ahead of time. But, again, I think, as you said, we need to have a transition plan in place. And you may want to keep it, but you do have language in the existing plan supporting the requests of drainage districts. Of drainage districts, correct. Thank you. So since there was reference made to the Broward County Legislative Delegation, and there's been a prior opportunity where I've also made the disclosure, but I'll do it again now since it was referenced. I am legal counsel for the Broward County Legislative Delegation. I don't believe that there's any conflict at this point that has arisen with this discussion, but I want to put that, again, on the record. I did want to ask a question because, Ms. Morris, I thought when I heard you just say in regards to the local bill process, I thought I heard that it sounded like that would be something the city would take on. Are you suggesting that while not for this cycle but for the next one, that if a local bill is required, are we distinguishing between paid in its current form, drafting that or being responsible for it, or some other entity versus the city being responsible for it? I think that's not yet determined. That's what I thought, but I thought I heard you say something otherwise. I've looked at timing just anticipating that if it did fall to us, making sure that we knew what the deadlines would be. But as you well know, the deadlines are the same sort of regardless of who drafts the actual bill. Yeah, our goal with that would be to follow similar models where the district that is dissolving and the entity absorbing it are working in tandem. So if we were to go to our local legislative delegation, it's in unison. Everybody's in agreement so that we're moving forward, and we're just not there yet. But, yeah, we would take that action. We would want to take a lead because we want to be involved in how it's structured moving forward. If that does happen. And obviously the clarity as to who would be taking that step would be important because of the timing so that one doesn't think the other is doing it. We would take the lead. Yes, sir. Very good. Thank you very much. Any other discussion regarding the matter before us and our workshop? Hearing none, it looks like we will adjourn the workshop at 545, and we will continue with the CRA meeting at 6 p.m.