It is now 5 p.m. January 15, 2025, and we will call to order the advisory board workshop. Ms. Thompson, if we could have the roll call. Council Member Anderson? Here. Council Member Andre? Here. Council Member Fadgen? Here. Council Member Hoard? Here. Portland? Council Member Rangstein? Here. Mayor Sordo? Here. City Attorney Carrie Osserall? Here. All right. Thank you. Ms. Thompson, did the mayor say he was going to appear online, or is that just later for the council meeting? I'll be there in 15 minutes. Oh, I did hear him just now. There was him. That was him. I thought that was somebody from the back there. That's incredibly disturbing. Mute me so you don't get any extra noise. Okay. Mute away, mayor. Thank you. So for the advisory board workshop, the advisory boards will be providing an update on their 2024 accomplishments and goals for 2025, at least that's the intention. I will call them up in order of the way that they are listed on the agenda. And what we'd like to do is give each chair or representative three minutes to say what they'd like to say about 2024 and their goals for 2025. That should give enough time for the council members to ask any questions, any discussion that may be necessary, and a little extra time if you go over that three minutes. Anybody have any questions before we get going? Council? Anybody? If not, first up is Affordable Housing Advisory Board, and I see Chair Maggie Zalamea. Welcome. Good. Thank you. Okay. Is it too loud now? Hi there. I'm Maggie Zalamea. I'm the chair of the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee, and it's a pleasure to be here. We had a wonderful year in 2024. As you know, our responsibility is to review and make recommendations on affordable housing incentives, which we have done. We've looked at ordinances such as the ADU, as you know, the parking bonus density. And, of course, we're looking and reviewing at multifamily areas where we could have affordable housing, where a portion of the housing in these multifamily residences would provide affordable housing. So that's something we're looking at, such as the residences, Water's Edge, and, of course, the apartments on State Road 441. But I think that above and beyond just, you know, those are the incentives that we look at and that are provided by state law that the committee is supposed to do. We have gone above and beyond, and I think one of the things that we have focused on that has been very important, and we've had a lot of support from the City Council, is on outreach education. And as you know, one of the main problems and obstacles for affordable housing is NIMBYism. So what we have done within the past couple of years is really build partnerships and collaborations, and we have great partnerships with the Bar and Affordable Housing Task Force. There was a resource fair that we had in Volunteer Park. We had a town hall meeting in 23, and more recently, in 2024, we had a wonderful town hall meeting where we actually invited other affordable housing committees from Broward County to come and share best practices and talk about obstacles, challenges, what's working and what's not. So I think looking to the future, we really want to continue focusing on that outreach and education and bringing people to the table, people that haven't been at the table before. And what we're seeing is that more and more people are really getting a grasp on this issue and understanding that the only way that we're going to combat this issue and address this issue is by coming together. Thank you very much. That's it for me. And I'm under, wow, I'm at, look at that. Any questions? Council? Quickly. Yes, go ahead. Thank you. Thank you, Maggie. Good to see you. Happy New Year to you. One of the things, and I agree with you, and I just had this conversation with Mr. Noonmaker yesterday where we need to continue to tell the story of what the needs are, what the actual cost of some of these things that we're asking applicants to come in and do, and I think that we're really doing a good job of that. There's always more we can do. One of the things that we had talked about in council, and I don't know if you've had the opportunity to discuss, is I recently attended with the South Florida Regional Planning Council. We hosted a silver tsunami conference, and so one of the considerations I'd like given is to hold a town hall and talk about the silver tsunami and what that means for senior housing, the impacts, the cost, and there's a lot of resources out there, so I hope that you will consider taking that up. Thank you, Council Member Horland. I totally agree with you. We have a partnership also with the South Florida Institute on Aging, and she's been involved. It is a crisis indeed, especially in the older community. Thank you so much, and I look forward to working on that and other things. Thank you, Ms. Alamed. Next we have up the Educational Advisory Board, but we're going to pass on them for a moment because their representative is on the way. So next we have up is the Library Board. Ms. Donna, please. Donna, you are welcome. Happy New Year. Donna, just if you hold on one sec, we just want to make sure that mic is on. We can just leave that mic on. We don't need to turn that off after it's here. Go ahead. Thank you. I'll start over then. The Board's key accomplishments for 2024 were that the Board was supportive in establishing operations, services, and programming after the library reopened in the building on December 26th of 2024. The Board reviewed all established programs and discussed opportunities for new offerings, and the young adult team programming was identified as a need. For the goals for 2025, they are support the intellectual freedom by continuing to monitor various display programming and materials challenges around the state, identify teen programming opportunities, identify patron technology needs, and identify the ways the library can support caregivers in the community. The additional information, I just wanted to let you know that the Library Board meetings are held the second Thursday of January, April, September, and November in the boardroom at the library at 3.30 in the afternoon. Special meetings may be called for material challenges, provided that notice is given to all the members. Does anybody have any questions? Go ahead, Council Member Angeo. Thank you so much. Do you ever have any collaboration or any attendance from anyone with the Broward County Library? We haven't. Monica, I know, does communicate with them or meet with them from time to time, but as far as I know, they haven't attended any of our meetings. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. You're welcome. Thank you very much. And while separate and distinct from the Library Board, I will mention that March 15th, the Friends of the Library are having their annual luncheon. So if you haven't gotten a major reservation for that, come back to the mic. In the back of my mind, because you know me, I never go anywhere without talking about the Friends of the Library. We are now taking reservations and all donations and any kind of donations that anybody would like to drop off and provide for us. Thank you. There we go. Thank you very much. And we will get back onto the Educational Advisory Board. I see Ms. Jessie Valenzuela. Thank you. Good evening. Do I need my address and all that good stuff? Forgive me. I'm here on behalf of the Educational Advisory Board. Just some accomplishments from the last year. We've been actively engaged with the school district in our advocacy for safety at Peters Elementary School. We've been in communication with them to advocate for emergency notifications for the deaf and hard of hearing. That extends to Seminole Middle School, Tropical Elementary School, and also South Plantation High School. That audio enhancement system, I am extremely happy to report, is now in. It is working in all of the schools. The monitors are everywhere. It is, it gets me teary when I walk through the schools. It was a long fight, the better part of three years, which is terrible. And we are very happy to report that with the help of the Educational Advisory Board, many of our council members fighting alongside us, that is an accomplishment. Additionally, we have been advocating for the replacement of the playground at Peters Elementary School. That has not come to pass. They are still without a playground. In fact, it's kind of torn up right now. So, I have not received an update further than that. And more recently, we've been advocating for the replacement of newly installed doors. So, during their SMART project, there was a mistake. And they asked for new doors for 12 classrooms. And a handful of those classrooms, five of those classrooms were deaf and hard of hearing classrooms. The doors were installed. And if you've been at our meeting, you've heard me refer to them as bunker doors. It's extremely unfortunate. The doors don't have windows. They look like they're storing hazardous waste behind them. It's terrible. And certainly not a welcoming environment for elementary school children or any children or any adults, for that matter. So, we are still advocating with the district and Dr. Holness is the District 5 representative to the school board. So, we've been working with him to get those replaced. Four of them have been replaced. Those were the ones on the deaf and hard of hearing classrooms. There is one deaf and hard of hearing classroom that still does not have the window. And we're working with the district to get that done. Because as you can imagine, having a deaf teacher and deaf students behind that door makes a very unsafe atmosphere. They cannot know who's knocking if there's an emergency on the other side. Thank you. Our 2025 goals. We plan to continue to pursue relationships with the PTA and PTO's parent organizations in our schools. And they're volunteers to create a support network called Plantation Educational Network. This initiative is headed up by Representative Goldstein. And Plantation Educational Advisory, forgive me, Plantation Educational Network will be a place where we can come together with these leaders from all of our different schools and boosters and exchange ideas and resources so that we have a stronger support system for all of our schools here in Plantation. That also extends to our private schools as well. So we are looking to get that moving this year. So we had to cancel a meeting. And so we're going to move ahead and look to schedule a new meeting and gather everyone together. And we'll keep you updated on that. Forgive me. We are also looking to bring back a spelling bee that has been tabled quite a few times by the Educational Advisory Board. The latest suggestion is that the Educational Advisory Board sponsors this spelling bee. We had previously discussed this with Kiwanis. But I think that it would be great to own that. I think that the board should take that on. And hopefully that will happen this year. And also we would like to boost our own visibility in the city so that people know that they can come to us with their own advocacy if need be or with their own good news about their school. And by we would like to contact other media sources. So we have a park bench that's a bus stop bench rather that we're going to be rooting on our teachers with. And also a banner during the first week of May which is Teacher Appreciation Week. So that is – these are our goals. And I want to thank you for your help because you guys are always fantastic at rooting on our students and also coming to their aid for anything that we may need. So thank you to the council as well. Thank you very much. These are – just stay up for a moment. These are great initiatives for the Educational Advisory Board. It's one of the most active boards I think we've seen in a while from the EAB. I'm very excited to hear more about the Plantation Educational Network. I am concerned that we're starting a new year and we are still having these issues with Peters Elementary. I know that we've toured it together and talked about the playground issue. We've also talked about last year the bunker door and the door issue. I know – I wrote here that you said you were still working with the district. Yes. Can you give any further – any sense – are you getting a response from the district? I am getting a response from the district. I am the representative to Peters Elementary School, so I am working with Dr. Holness in his office. I had a meeting with him before the break, and I have another meeting with him tomorrow at 1230. So the last I heard – and they are great about updating us – is an email went out asking for an update and was ignored. And that went to SMART – to the – I wonder if the people on the – our district representatives on the board could help me. But this went to people who are part of the SMART project, engineers for the SMART project. I have not received a response to Dr. Holness' office from that office. So hopefully this will happen soon. I – my feeling is that things that are part of SMART take a little bit longer than just, like, if it was an AC issue. But I can't know for sure. I'll get an update tomorrow. And I know you always do, but please make sure to keep us updated after that meeting if you can so that anything that we can do on our end to support you, the EAB, and our students. Councilmember Andrea. Thank you, and to all of the EAB members for the great work that's happening. I just want to remind you all that – because we do tend to focus a lot, of course, on our elementary schools, and that's the largest segment of the population. But we do have two new principals at our two high schools. So I just want to make sure that we continue to engage with them and support them as they're new to the City of Plantation. So just to keep them on your radar. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Reese did come to our last meeting, the new principal at South Plantation High School. She's wonderful. And I've seen her in the community, and they've been very active. And I'm glad to see her supporting South Plantation High School. And I will pass that along to the board and Plantation High School also. So we haven't met the new Plantation High School principal yet, but I'll make sure that that is reiterated to the board, and we'll let them know that they're supported. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next up, we have Parks and Recreation Advisory Board. Ms. Phyllis Lind. Welcome. I'm Phyllis Lind, chair of the Parks and Rec Board. For 2024, our accomplishments were we reviewed public art and parks projects. We provided feedback for the Central Park Master Plan. We discussed and approved pursuing grant opportunities and applications, provided feedback, suggestions, and recommendations on certain special events, reviewed and approved summer camp scholarship applications, and we volunteered at several events. For 2025, we want to provide feedback and recommendation on various park projects, capital projects such as the playground design and venue upgrades, continue to review and recommend art in parks installations, volunteer at various events, continue to make suggestions that improve existing events and programs, and continue to assist with summer camp scholarship program application review. Great. Thank you. Any questions, comments from the council? I think one of the other members, Mr. Carreras, I see is here, so thank you also for being present. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next up, we have Planning and Zoning Advisory Board. Chair Corman, welcome. Thank you. Happy New Year, everybody. 2024, I was the chair, and Ariel Dembeberger was the vice chair. I've been reelected to the chair for this year, 2025. Max Goldstein will be serving as vice chair. We've been doing the same job we've been doing all along. What's nice about it is with the approval that you all gave us, we've been able to more efficiently utilize the alternates so that we have had full days for every one of the meetings that we've had, which is the ultimate goal as it serves our residents more fairly and equitably, especially when we get to some of the elements I'm going to talk about. We've been working really well with staff this year to meet their needs as well as our own. Their needs being specifically if something comes before us and we feel that there needs extra time or clarification and the resources need to be given to them from a time standpoint. For example, last night we did have a practical difficulty waiver that we pushed for one month to allow for equal treatment for both the applicant as well as staff so that everybody's on the same page with what's going on because, as you know, when it comes to practical difficulty waivers, our board is the final arbiter of it. It doesn't come to you. So we take that role very seriously, and our intention is to guarantee that the code is followed and upheld, but yet we are still fair and equitable and understanding to everybody who, for whatever reason, either might not have understood the code at the time and they're looking for a waiver from a preexisting permit or that they're looking to do something that might either intentionally or unintentionally have an impact with regards to setting precedent and what could happen to neighborhoods because plantation, while we have the code, each neighborhood has its own particular feel and look, and we're very cognizant of not trying to change that while still being fair and equitable to everybody who comes before us. As far as stuff that you see, we're still taking our role of offering advice and clarification for any legislative or code issues that come up before you, and when necessary, at least on my part, I will come and give you opinions as to how the vote broke down and why it did, just so that you get a sense of what it is that the discussions were if you weren't able to follow it or you didn't have a chance to speak to your appointees about what had occurred at the meetings. Other than that, our goals are the same, to keep that up and to continue to allow staff to help us and help the city. Any questions? Thank you very much, Mr. Coleman. Do we have anybody here from the Gateway Advisory Board? And who may you be? I'm Michael Lee. No, no. Glenn Hall. Happy New Year. Thank you, Mr. Coleman. All right. So I'm here on behalf of the chair. I wanted to go over some of the successes that we had. We had the funding approval of Publix, we can say Publix, anchored at West Brow to Shopping Center. We complete our track due diligence, survey work for our property at 4271 Peters Road for our hometown heroes. We had effective use of the license plate readers with other strategies with PD, so that crime is down 49% in the Gateway. Traffic citations are up 124%. We had our grand reopening, renaming event, and our annual Barbecue of the Hero first responders for Kingsley Park, which was fantastic, including significant upgrades to the shade structures, add-on exercise playground equipment, et cetera. We give a lot of thanks to PD, Public Works, and Parks for helping us get that accomplished. And we also got awarded a $50,000 grant from the CSB for business of the arts, with graphic artists, say Adams, to complete the mural, which was also very well-received. Some of our goals are summarized per the new state statute, so I'm not going to go into detail. I'm just going to give you the top level. We develop and revitalize State Road 7 Corridor, improve safety of residents, visitors, and businesses, sustain and increase economic activity. Number three, community engagement, transparency, and quality of life enhancements. Goal four, fiscal responsibility and budget management. And number five, compliance with legislative mandates. Thank you. Councilman Andrea. Question for you. Any update with the car wash on State Road 7? Yes. So my understanding, they're pretty much going through the building department and getting everything finalized. We did a lot of work to help them get through processes with some hurdles with FDOT, et cetera. So from what I understand, they're ready to go. Yeah. Right. No problem. Okay. Thank you very much. All right. You're welcome. Next on our list is the Midtown Advisory Board. Is there anybody here from the Midtown Advisory Board? Hi, you're back. Yes. I'm Byron Lethwitz. Quick change. They'd like me to come up here, I guess. I'm not sure. We'd like to see them, too. You could tell both of them, please, that we would love to see them here. I would love to see them here also. Thank you. To do it. So some of the accomplishments for Midtown was the approval of additional dedicated police. The Midtown District is like how we have in Gateway. Also, they're going to have the installation of the LPRs, which are also very successful in the Gateway. They continued to monitor the grant process and the bridge project onto State Road 84. Improvements were completed on University Drive. They continued to investigate the possibility of a connected spine road through Midtown. Continued to follow through on a long-standing design and approved funding for the district to gain activity center status. Reviewed plans and projects in the district and gave approvals to City Council. And also, the new parking requirement reductions and zoning changes for Midtown are being worked on internally to be approved in 2025. I guess you should be in time for the Cerritage Midtown application. And also, the land uses changes will be part of the, as mentioned, comp plan. There were a lot of different outlined goals. But, like I said, the state statute also has a requirement that I'll just summarize very quickly also, if that just happened this year. I'm having to go one, vibrant and lush urban mixed-use community. Goal two, improve safety of residents, visitors, and businesses to sustain and increase economic activity. Goal three, community engagement, transparency, and quality of life enhancements. Goal four, fiscal responsibility and budget management. Goal five, compliance with legislative mandates. Council Member Fadgen. Thank you, Council President. Reinstein, we all got a nice holiday gift in December with the closing of the sale of the Cerritage property. Yes. And I've heard the mayor speak to, you know, we still have to be patient because, I guess, the demolition permits start a clock on something from the county. Can you talk about that so people, we can get it out there in the public, people can hear that there's a process, but we don't want them to miss out on the grants or, I'm not sure what they're called, subsidies or whatever, for infrastructure and such. So I'm not sure about the timing of the demolition. Is somebody else going to be picking up on that? For the record, Dan Holmes, Planning, Zoning, Economic Development Director. Your question is with regard to. My understanding is, like, we want that thing knocked down as quickly as possible, but once they pull that permit, it starts a clock on, something that they can get from the county. I just want to get that explained so people can hear that and understand that, yes, it's closed. We're in the process. Do you know what I'm talking about, Mayor? Oh, yeah. Okay. Jason, do you want to do it? I'll chime in after. Thank you, Mayor. I'm saying this because we were in on the meeting. It was so much Jason and me. I've heard the mayor talk about this, but I just swear there's another opportunity to get this out there so that they understand that the wheels are turning now. It's not that abandoned property. Thank you. And the ownership's been very transparent. Their concern is on the traffic impact fees, that once they pull a demo permit, there's a time certain. I can't remember if that's 24 months or 36 months, but it really is compressed when you think about what the process will be for that piece of property because, obviously, it's going to be very rigorously reviewed, so that's not going to be a quick process. They have indicated they're amenable to some interim steps, so we've talked about, you know, site cleanup. Can we do a wrap? So they're going to be open to those types of ideas, so we don't think it's going to be until demo, until something's done. Okay. I appreciate you bringing that up because there's the traffic impact. Yeah, I just want everyone to hear about it so they know that there is a process going to go. Yes. Can I add, Councilman? I see a number two. That's why I'm going to be number one. Okay. Even though it's a county ordinance written as two years or three years, I have it as three years based on what they told me, I can still go to county commissioners and say, hey, can you make this three and a half years? Can we get an exception on this? Right. And I think that's part of what I was talking about because you mentioned that. And I just sort of wanted to just explain. Yeah, that's in the plan is if that's a problem, getting that thing knocked down, then perhaps we can get an extension or an exception on the three-year deadline. So is that in the works? No, because I'm waiting just to make sure of everything. Okay. It should be in the works. It'll come to think of it, you know. What's that? The other thing is I want to make knocking that thing down as an event. Five bucks, donate, bring your sledgehammer, give the money to United Way. So, but absolutely, that's – oh, actually, I'm talking to Steve Gellar tomorrow, and that was on my list. So, yeah. Yeah. All right. Very good. Thank you. And last but definitely not least, the doctors in the house. Dr. Long, Julie Long, please. Sustainability and Resiliency Advisory Board. Hi. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. We came together as a board this year, I really think. It's our second full year of operation, our accomplishments. Under the guidance and direction of Carol Morris, of course, we rolled out the green business application. The application is not only an application to apply, but it's also a good resource for businesses that may not meet the criteria but want to know what is a green business. So, it's really a teaching tool in and of itself. We need everybody's support, though, any businesses you patronize to take that brochure and ask them to apply because I think we haven't reached a deluge of applications yet. But once the word is out, I'm sure we will. We tabled at a Rock the Park event and surveyed residents on what they think environmental initiatives or concerns are for the city. We tabled an Earth Day event and continued our survey, and my report detailed some of the issues that residents have. I mean, they have some global issues about climate warming and sea level rise, but a lot of them are local issues about trash and things like that, which you're all aware of. In April, we recognized Food Waste Prevention Week. This was spearheaded by South Plantation High School. Broward County now has a sustainability coalition. The municipalities that have sustainability boards, we try to send one member come together and learn from what other cities are doing. And I'm really proud to report that Plantation is ahead of a lot of cities. Even though we're a young board, it's not that our board is ahead, it's that the city was ahead in terms of things that are doing like our restricting PFAS in the water and things like that. I shared our turf ordinance with a representative from Fort Lauderdale. They were very excited about that. Other cities are concerned about that. So that's been very positive. One of the things we did ongoing through the year was get education from each of the departments, and I really want to personally thank each of the department members that presented to us. It was very informative. We learned a lot about what initiatives are already being done in the city, and we used that education to develop a five-year sustainability plan for the city. It's a work in progress. I remember when the board started, you told me, Nick, to contact Richard Grosso, and he said, the first question is, do you have a five-year sustainability plan? And I said, no. And he said, well, that's what you need to do. So be careful what you recommend and what you ask for. Basically, the document is, it's, you have it. A lot of the, each department. Please continue. Each department, it recaps what's on the website and what was presented in the presentations, which is more up-to-date than the website. And then the final paragraph or section is recommendations for the future. So when you look at it, that's really where you may like what we're saying or take exception to it, but that's where we want input. And we, at our meeting Monday night, asked each of the reps to reach out to their council member that appointed them and asked them to review the document and see what, how we can improve this or whether you think we're on the right track or whatever. And also at that meeting, Joe Nguyen was elected the chair for the upcoming year with Dr. Kate Peach as the vice chair. It's been a real pleasure. I'm going to continue to be on the board. Any questions? Just thank you very much, Dr. Long. You mentioned about the application for the new green certification. Forgive me, as I don't know, is the application obtainable online on our website? Mayor, is that something that maybe marketing could push out, you know, a few times to get it out to the public? We could push it out. To be honest, we're evaluating whether the green business program is better off run on our own or rolled into the county green business program. So we can have a chat about that. But I'm basing that on conversations I've had with Carol and some others. Very good. You can have the discussion now if you want or later, whatever you all want. Well, you brought it up. What's the basis for rolling it over and not doing it, keeping it on our own? Economy of scale. And you can say you're countywide. Carol, you had some other pieces of this? We've got time, so thank you. I'm not going to take a lot of time. Briefly, there are a number of cities that have worked to roll out green business programs. Most of them have not met with a whole lot of success. The county has recently rolled out a program as well that is countywide. There may be some additional leverage on a countywide project if ourselves and some other municipalities sort of jumped in and it became more of a coordinated, collaborative effort. Before I jump to you, Councilman, I'll tell you that, listen, there's nothing wrong with collaborating if it suits us and it works better to incorporate or be involved with the countywide. Although I happen to love the idea of it being plantation-specific and having this board being on top of that and being responsible for it. I'm not sure that we've specifically brought these applications to the Gateway Advisory Board, the Midtown Advisory Board, the Broward Mall, and really done as much as maybe we could do just on that level. We could definitely get the word out better. So maybe until we make a decision about anything in conjunction with the county, we can start doing a little more on our own. Council Member Andreyu. Thank you, President Reinstein. My question about the Green Business Award is, can we do both? Does it have to be one or the other? So can we still have our own program and then still be part of the larger county program? Because I wouldn't want to see our program just fall by the wayside either. Well, I wasn't aware of the discussion about collaborating with the county. So, but I agree with both of you that I think even though we haven't had a lot of applicants, the application is really thoughtful. It's useful and it's doable for businesses that want to do it. And I think we have the wherewithal. What we are suffering from is a lack of promotion. We've had some issues getting in touch with the Chamber of Commerce. I've visited some businesses. But I think that we will get a tipping point. I mean, I keep going back to Alachua County and Gainesville. And they have, you know, been very successful. And I think there is a market for it. And I think that we just need more communication and advertisement of this. So maybe we could get you a table at the next Chamber Luncheon. That might help. I think whatever, you know, yeah. Yeah, we would like to reach out. And I just went to a lot of businesses. I tried specifically to go to non-chain restaurants because the chains franchises may not have control locally, but real mom-and-pop businesses. And those are the two that we have successfully completed and will be recognized tonight. So I think it's really it's just this year we started it. So I'm not at all discouraged. I think we're ahead of where many other municipalities that have tried to do this. So I think we're ahead. And I just I want to recognize all the members of the board because we've had really good attendance and participation. And, again, we couldn't have done it without Carol because she keeps us in line and tells us what we need to do next. And I'll specifically mention that Ms. Guitel Ruiz-Nicolas is here from your board as well. So thank you. I'm sorry. Can I ask you more questions? Please go ahead. So I know that composting was mentioned in the five-year plan. One thing I would like to see if we could expand upon with that is I think it was more part of the garden aspect over at Jim Ward, but more resident composting if we could maybe. The city is looking at it. I know you and I had a conversation about that before the winter break, but I don't know if I saw it reflected in the five-year plan, so maybe. We don't have firm plans to roll out at this point, but it is. Okay. It would be nice to even. You know, we've talked about it a lot. The city of Coral Springs has a program now that's a drop-off program. I think Pompano Beach has a pilot program. Hollywood has a program that residents can pay to participate. Hollywood's program subsidizes the cost. Right. And it's had very poor enrollment. But Coral Springs is doing better. Pompano Beach is. I mean, for starters, we could increase the composting in just around Jim Ward and see if residents in that neighborhood would be interested in providing compost to the garden. And I think there's many things that we could do that wouldn't. Composting is pretty gnarly. But it's not undoable. And we could start small and make it bigger. Thank you. Any other questions? Council Member Hortland. Just very briefly. Thank you, Dr. Long. I just want to weigh in on the county business program. I'd like to keep that in our back pocket. I just don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater yet because I don't think – I think our program is still in its infancy. Like, tonight we're awarding the first two businesses. I'd like to see that. I'm sure there's intention to put that on our social media and celebrate them. I love the idea of the table at the chamber because I think we just need to get it out there more. So we'll all try to, I'm sure, support you with that, Dr. Long. So thank you for your – Thank you. Thanks very much. And, Dr. Long, the next chamber meeting is February 12th. So whether you or somebody from your board is available, if we can't get a table at that time, I'm sure I will – I'd love to be there. I will extend the invitation for you to be my guest. And hopefully we can also see about getting a table there as well for the board. Okay. Thanks so much. Thank you for all you've done to support us. And we now have – hold on, Council Member Anderson. Ms. Long, Dr. Long. Just – I was taking notes and I didn't catch. I want to make sure you cited the right plan that you want us to review and comment on with our rep. I'm not certain what you got from Carol. The way that I put together the documents is I – it needs to be all mushed into one document, but I did like public works, utility, planning and zoning, parks and rec, and then, you know, kind of followed the format that we have on the website and – but added a final paragraph about where – what are – what the future plans should be. And so I'm not sure how – what I gave Carol came to you. But it basically is – I think it might be multiple documents. Administration – let me think who else I forgot. We didn't do the library, but we did administration, parks and rec, planning and zoning, utilities. I know I'm forgetting some, but anyway, I'm not sure what you got. Thanks for all of you. Hold on, Dr. Long. Mayor, we can – you can sit at our table and be part of us so you don't have to pay for – let us know and we'll book you for your ticket for the chamber. Perfect. Just – I can't attend. Just don't bring any composting. I'll collect it at the end of the lecture. Green business, yeah. Thank you, Dr. Long. Thank you. I also want to make mention, Vicki Gelfand is here. She's also a member of Planning and Zoning. She had stepped out when I had mentioned about Planning and Zoning previously. So that concludes all of the advisory boards that are listed on the advisory board workshop. Do any members of council or mayor have any comments regarding the advisory boards? Before we conclude. Yeah. I want to talk about something that has been rolling around in my head, but now is a good time to verbalize it. I look at many of our advisory boards as an opportunity to drill down on a topic. We would all love to drill down on schools and dig up to do the things that we used to do, but we can't. Same thing for sustainability. We'll have an idea or two, but they're the ones to do it more. So the days of having advisory board members, in many cases, not all, just show up for the meeting and go home, those days might be over if we want to get where we want to go. And perhaps that's going to take, you know, six or eight hours a month of work out of people to go to the schools or to get out to businesses. It's going to take more initiative than we might have seen in the past. I'm open to ideas if you guys agree or disagree. Maybe you can elaborate a little more. Are you just suggesting that our advisory board members need to spend more time doing the work with the advisory boards? And part of it's on us because they've never, nobody's brought it up to them. And part, we've never really given that, that firm of a direction is that it's, it's going to get better if we have more initiative. Although things that you guys are really happy about, the Peters Elementary, for example, one person took initiative and advanced something that did it for the better. Julie's things where she goes somewhere, sets up a table. That's something that advances things. Rather than sit here and debate policy. For some, for some of the boards, not all of them. But that's kind of the lens I see it through right now, is that they could really drill down and we could really go someplace with some of these things. But it's going to take more work than what we've generally kind of told board members that it would be. PNC is different, obviously. For the empowerment of the boards. Yes, to empower the boards. Yeah, PNC is different. If they do their work, they have to do homework to come in here, even for crying out loud. So, that's a different one. But that's kind of the way I, that's kind of the new vision I kind of have for the boards. Councilman Amohala? I was the needs at word empowerment. We've talked about that previously, about empowering the boards. But to your point, Mayor, I think the reason that Dr. Long was appointed, and certainly the reason that I appointed Ms. Valenzuela, was because they were already advocating. You know, so I think that you're always going to have individuals that are going above and beyond. And by and large, that's why they end up on one of these advisory boards. But to your point, I think it could be a conversation each of us could have. Some of the boards, especially sustainability, has been new, you know. And I think it's finding their footing. That was something that, you know, they've worked hard on, and Ms. Morris has worked hard on. And I think, as you heard Dr. Long say, we're ahead of the game a little bit in plantations. So, but I think we can all continue to do better with that. Because we've got some terrific people. And I just want to say before we end, I want to thank everybody that serves on the boards. Because it's really something I'm going to talk about in my opening tonight. It's about community. And this is a large part of why this community is so desirable and successful. And people want to live here. And it's because of your contributions. So, thank you very much. Great. And the only other thing I want to add is that, you know, as Dr. Long mentioned about tabling, that they've already had tables out, Earth Day is coming out. I'm sure they'll have a table out there again. They did a great job with that. I know that Parks and Rec have had a table out at certain events. Maybe it's something that all of the advisory boards can be given the option at, whether it's Rock the Park, whether it's, you know, the safety fair, you know, the Halloween one at Pine Island. I mean, any event that the city is putting on where there's an opportunity to be in touch with the public, whether it's a rotating basis for the advisory boards or whether they're all given an opportunity for a table to be out. You know, that's just another way to get it out there, what they're doing, what we're offering, what opportunities are here. So if that's something that, Mayor, you see as a possibility. And it's, you know, the boards now do what they're asked. It would be on us to change the ask of what we're trying to go with this. And so that's the point that do we want to do that or not. So that's something to think about. Thank you. Anything further? I think the workshop period is, unfortunately, we don't take additional comments from the audience, from the public. It's a workshop. So with that being said, without any further comments from the board, at 5.48, workshop's closed. Thank you. Thank you.