Good morning again. Commissioner Quinn Higgins, Senator Garcia. The clerk's office received notice that Commissioner Gonzalez will be absent from today's meeting. Vice Chairwoman Lopez, Chairwoman Milian Orbis. Present. Three members present. We have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the Intergovernmental and Economic Impact Committee of Miami-Dade County. I am your Chairwoman, Natalie Milian Orbis, proudly the commissioner of District 6. Can we please stand and have our invocation, which will be led by me, and then our Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Lopez. Can we please bow our heads for the invocation? Dear Lord, thank you for having us here today. As we gather together to make decisions, we know that only you can guide us through moments that we don't even think we can get through. So thank you for your guidance every single day as we make decisions for our residents. We pray for everybody in this chamber and everybody in this building and all of our residents in Miami-Dade County. We also want to pray for everyone who suffered so much on September 11th, which we have tomorrow, keeping all of our victims in mind and praying for their rest and their families and everything that our nation went through on that day. So thank you for this day, and we pray for your guidance always in your name. Amen. Thank you. At this time, I would ask our attorneys if there's any changes, updates, or additions to our agenda. Madam Chair, the items for this committee's consideration are those listed in the final printed agenda and the changes memo, which includes the additions of items 3B and the requested deferral of item 1G1 and item 2B. At this point in time, reasonable opportunity can be extended to the public, including discussion on the requested deferral. Thank you. Thank you. At this time, we will open the reasonable opportunity to be heard. If there's anyone in the chambers who would like to speak, please come forward and present yourself at this time. The public opportunity is open. I do not have any speaker cards. Good morning. Good morning. How are y'all doing today? Well, thank you. My name is Chad Burkhalter, the acting city manager for the city of Florida City. So we had a change in leadership on Tuesday, and our planner wasn't able to attend either. So given that, we're requesting a deferral on the item for the annexation for today's agenda. Thank you, Mr. Manager. I appreciate you being here on behalf of Florida City. I do believe those items are being deferred, so I appreciate your testimony on that. Thank you so much. Thank you. Is there anybody else who wishes to speak during the reasonable opportunity? Seeing none, we're closing the reasonable opportunity we heard at this time. To the attorneys, is this the appropriate time to take the deferral? Motion is at the agenda, including the deferral requested would be in order. So moved. Second. I am moved and second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Our agenda is set. Do we have any requests for pulls or bifurcations on the agenda? Madam Chair, I'd like to discuss item 3B. 3B, Madam Vice Chair? None. Thank you. Just wanted to say that I want to co-sponsor. I know when we get to the item, to item 2C, I'd love to be able to co-sponsor with you. Okay. So bifurcating 3B, and with that, the balance of the agenda with the deferral of 1G1 and 2B, correct? Correct. And the co-sponsorship of item 2C, I believe, by Commissioner Lopez. Yes. And the co-sponsorship of 2C. So we move the balance of, do we have a motion to move the balance of the agenda? Second. All in favor? Aye. Okay. Commissioner? 3B? Thank you, Madam Chair. On 3B to the administration, I certainly am supportive of the item. I just have questions regarding the details. It's a $19 million spend for defibrillators, the lion's share of which I think a little over 18 is going to our fire rescue department. Again, I support the item. I support the spend. But the item doesn't break down the $18 million in any way, shape, or form. How many defibrillators are we buying for $18 million? When was the last time that you purchased defibrillators for the department? What's the cost per defibrillator? Et cetera. I know that it was competitively procured, but when there's an $18 million spend with no details on the breakdown of that 18, I'd like further clarification, please, either to the administration or someone from our fire department. Through the chair, I'd like for someone from the fire department to speak. Good morning. Jason Fernandez, Miami D. Fire Rescue. So the current item we have in front of you for 75 defibrillators, approximately $40,000 each. But that item is not just defibrillators. We've purchased $150,000 off of an adjacent contract, and this is for the remaining balance for operations units. This also includes stretchers for our units and consumables for the defibrillators. Okay. And when was the last time that you bought defibrillators? 12 years ago, and our current defibrillators are end-of-life. Okay. So this is an end-of-life situation. The last time you made a purchase similar to this was 12 years ago? Correct. I understand. And I just want to be clear. You said it's not only defibrillators. It's, I guess, equipment that accompanies the defibrillators? Correct. Defibrillators are what you all use to resuscitate someone that needs... Resuscitate to interpret heart attacks and other abnormalities that are going on with the heart. It also provides us equipment that when a person's not breathing and we intubate them, we stick a tube in their mouth, we're able to see the correct placement. So it's a very advanced piece of equipment that allows us to do a lot of interventions in the field. Okay. And so there's no question that you need this. Like I said, I want to be clear. I'm supporting the item. I just wonder, I see Striker, and I guess this is more to our procurement department. Is $40,000 the going rate for these machines? Is that industry standard to pay that kind of a price tag for this equipment that I completely understand that our department needs? But is that price the going market rate for this equipment? Through the chair, Namita Opal. Commissioner, the defibrillators that the fire department purchases are the advanced life packs. So they range anywhere between $35,000 to $50,000. That's the going rate. And different brands, Stryker, Zoll, for the advanced pack, that's the rate. And I know that this was competitively procured, but there's not much detail in the item. It's only seven pages regarding what the price of these products typically are from an industry standard. So I'd like to take a look at that just because $30,000, $40,000, $50,000 for a defibrillator seems extremely high. And maybe, again, this is not my industry. It's not something that I'm familiar with. But I would like to see, similar to there were contracts that we had not long ago. I think it was Motorola. And I had a similar discussion. I said, man, this really kind of blows my mind from a price point perspective. And I wonder, and we went back and we looked at it. And through negotiations, there were savings that were realized. And so I'm looking at this item in a similar light. When there's an $18 million spend and the item only has seven pages with no real detail communicated to the board on the procurement, what the offers came in at, the industry standard, I'm going to take a little bit of a deeper dive to see whether or not there is any potential room for savings, obviously without compromising what our first responders need in order to do their job. The commissioner between the committee and the board will be happy to do and bring back the supplement or additional information to your office or everybody will get that information for you. Thank you. I'd greatly appreciate it. Nothing further, Madam Chair. Thank you, Commissioner. Chief Edwards, did you have, you needed us to do something on this item? Thank you, Madam Chair. It would be helpful if we could move this item to the next board meeting so that we could ensure we procure these things within the time frame that's been requested by the fire department. Happy to oblige with that. So long as we have that information that Commissioner Cohen-Higgins requested included in the item. We will do that. We'll add that to the item, but we'll also brief you separately. Okay. Yep. Okay. We have a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Do we need a motion to move this to the commission meeting? No, Madam Chair. Thank you. Well, with that, seeing no further items, do we have a motion to adjourn? Thank you so much. Good afternoon. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone. Have a great day.